Covid-19, Lockdown and repercussions

[Ultegra134]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

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[maybukaspa]

how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Same thing in our country. Our movement is significantly limited. Non-essential industries are closed, and most jobs today are implemented into work-from-home programs to prevent the virus from drastically spreading. Public transportation is limited. But still, public markets and malls have tons of people, though only 21 above are allowed to go outside. Nobody is taking precautionary measures and doesn't follow social distancing. During this crisis, our lives must be taken seriously.

I usually work out, meditate, and begin learning something new. It helps me to cope with stress and sadness.

May we have good health and wealthy life. Be strong and stay safe during the pandemic.

[Lucius]

I have had the misfortune of going through a lot worse things in my life than a pandemic, so I can say without hesitation that I am dealing with this situation quite well.  Everything that has happened in the past year has its consequences, and the long-term ones will be visible in the future - from economic ones that are clearly visible and tangible - to psychological ones that will create an army of sick people whose treatment will cost every country dearly.

Although I do not consider my politicians to be particularly honest and successful, they did not introduce the most difficult measures that would include restricting the movement and closing of shops - they closed gyms and cafes/restaurants, but given the very favorable epidemiological situation they could get the green light very soon.

The whole situation with vaccines is not ideal, but the number of people who have already overcome the disease and those who will be vaccinated in combination with the arrival of spring is very likely to bring relief to all people.

[Ucy]

The town I live in doesn't seem to be under lock down but prices of things have gone up alittle  except maybe for agric products and things made locally by small & medium scale businesses. I think the presence of very competitive small businesses helps alot otherwise things probably would have been worse. When the lockdown was initially introduced, they seem to be the only few ones that successfully bypassed it to feed and serve customers.

[Ultegra134]

I have had the misfortune of going through a lot worse things in my life than a pandemic, so I can say without hesitation that I am dealing with this situation quite well.  Everything that has happened in the past year has its consequences, and the long-term ones will be visible in the future - from economic ones that are clearly visible and tangible - to psychological ones that will create an army of sick people whose treatment will cost every country dearly.

Although I do not consider my politicians to be particularly honest and successful, they did not introduce the most difficult measures that would include restricting the movement and closing of shops - they closed gyms and cafes/restaurants, but given the very favorable epidemiological situation they could get the green light very soon.

The whole situation with vaccines is not ideal, but the number of people who have already overcome the disease and those who will be vaccinated in combination with the arrival of spring is very likely to bring relief to all people.

My thoughts exactly, the results of the protective measures (Quarantine, limited mobility and so on) along with the vaccination and the rise in temperature that is coming in the following months will relieve the population and the health sector. I believe that things will do get better after March or April, however, is the same thing going to happen the next winter?

My guess would be probably not, due to the vaccination and the acquired immunity, but measures will probably be taken then too.

[20kevin20]

The way it affected me? Not so much. But studies say something very different about what happened to a not insignificant number of people!

Suicides are (or at least have been during lockdowns) on a rise, so is domestic violence. Tourism is going through a painful death, so are services like restaurants and shops. Besides retail, so besides the rich, you don't have a choice to purchase your daily needed products from besides them. In the meantime, at least in my country, prices are on the rise. Lots of close friends of mine have lost their jobs, a lot of people feel alone or isolated from their families and online school will create useless students who've been watching Netflix and playing videogames while at "school".

And remember that besides the economical repercussions done by the pandemic, we have a sh*t ton of money pumped into the economy to artificially keep it up and standing. Once this ends, I don't eevn want to imagine how sharply the markets will fall.

Personally, I'm mentally prepared for the worst. It seems to me like we're in the middle of a countdown to the big, ugly collapse we'll all feel strongly.

[aoluain]

I suppose its a matter of perspective because some people will be affected more than others.

Personally from an economic point of view I have been working as normal, to working in the office
to working on different sites and I have had more disposable income to put into Bitcoin.

The repercussions of the pandemic are enormous. Certain businesses are suffering along with a
large portion of the public both personally and economically. Fiscal stimuli are a short term relief
for many but the long term effects still lie ahead.

[Fesatmas]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Unlike the conditions where I live, which is a pandemic, it seems like a funny atmosphere, the reason is that although there are many rules and restrictions for many people, we do not break the rules, it's just that for us we refer to some one. mental conviction and not about the existence of Covid 19. To be honest, most of the places I live do not believe in the existence of Covid 19, even though data from the government and the hospital have proven it. The fact is that those of us who don't believe make our place the safest place to be from covoid 19. Neither of us is touched. As for the impact of this rule, when we want to travel, we still respect the use of masks.

This is a matter of endurance, when we are prone to depression and always panic seeing conditions, it is clear that we will be susceptible to Covid 19. Stay calm and control our thoughts with positive things.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The town I live in doesn't seem to be under lock down but prices of things have gone up alittle  except maybe for agric products and things made locally by small & medium scale businesses. I think the presence of very competitive small businesses helps alot otherwise things probably would have been worse. When the lockdown was initially introduced, they seem to be the only few ones that successfully bypassed it to feed and serve customers.

That's kind of the same way it is where I live, and probably even less restrictive.  Restaurants have even opened up again, so the US definitely is not in a second lockdown.  Things were looking so much grimmer around March of last year when I thought that ALL nonessential businesses would have to shut down (but most stayed open anyway).

I feel for OP in Greece and people everywhere else who have to lock themselves down again.  Hopefully you guys get the vaccine sometime soon, and hopefully this whole fucking shitbomb of a pandemic will burn itself out--this year. 

[LeGaulois]

In my country, the shops are supposed to close at 06.00 p.m. and we're not allowed to go out after this hour. Personally, I don't care, I'm already in pajama  
The irony starts when the restaurants are closed because it brings too many people in the same room but at the same time the schools are open despite there is also "too many people in the same room"
Some persons lose their mind, I have seen people fighting at the supermarket for some bottles of water, fearing possible penury. How crazy is it?

On a serious note, I wonder if we will notice a huge correction in the real estate market? Since many people are losing their job and folks don't have money to buy a house/apartment maybe the prices will decrease a lot?
Actually, nobody talks about it.

I mean less demand so prices decrease... Actually, it may be a good opportunity to buy if it happens. Imagine paying 15-20% less.

Even perhaps to buy an established business. Many won't survive, they're currently in agony despite the free money from the government. If the business was profitable before the crisis once it finishes it will be profitable again. So you come with your fresh money, wait until it ends and get something making profits.
I'm talking about very small businesses of course, for example a shop with 1 employee

[bvoriue]

I am in a village that is not a red zone, I have never felt what a lockdown is like, because here, from the first news about Covid-19, the community is active as usual, only in the first months the health protocol is very strict, here it seems like nothing, although Thus we remain vigilant, when we go out of the house always prioritize health protocols.
Hopefully this pandemic will end soon.

[just_Alice]

The place I live, things have happened in a very strange fashion: March 2020, when it all has just started, and there were on average 3-5 cases per day (within the whole country!!) - we had a very strict quarantine, only groceries and drugstores were allowed, and only a limited number of people per time, you couldn't be seen just walking around, there was a serious patrol police and if anyone found out you were just taking a walk - you'd be issued a fine! It's been going on like that for about three weeks, everyone was very serious and very scared back then.

And now, as time has passed, the situation became quite the opposite: we have thousands of cases per day, but no one cares, people barely wear masks, there are so-called "lockdowns", but they aren't very serious or even close to what we had at the beginning, there are limitations like you can't sit right next to someone in the cinema, you have to wear a mask, but if you don't - no one will notice and give a comment, the restaurants can't work from 12 PM till 7 AM (not that anyone ever went to the restaurant at this hour). So basically there are no strict limitations, while there should be and that's what drives me crazy!

I guess the people are just too tired of all this and many have already gone through coronavirus sickness, so no one follows any rules, and, I guess, no rules apply anymore, that's very frustrating because many people still get sick and die, but everyone is just used to it now  

[bitsurfer2014]

My country, the Philippines had suffered a lot during the hard lock down which has resulted to a huge number of business closures and jobs lost and had left most Filipinos in a state of uncertainty and insecurity. What I fear is that the pandemic could somehow affect our mental health - as in my case, had experienced some form of anxiety attacks - which could have detrimental effects in the future if left unchecked.

Thankfully, the National Government together with Local Government Units had somehow realized that a hard lock down with no concrete results could have worsen our country's economy  thus had acted to ease some restrictions like allowing businesses to open up  and keep the economy rolling but they are enforcing strict implementation of health protocols like personal sanitation, contact tracing, wearing of face masks and social distacing, etc...

But I guess we should take it on the lighter side, I mean having quality time to spend with family during lock downs is good enough. I hope we could overcome this pandemic very soon.

[lienfaye]

We are somehow lucky here in our place for having less cases of covid 19 in the past few months. Due to this, the lockdown is finally lifted and now we are under general community quarantine which is way better than before. Now we can go to malls, market, theme park anytime as long as we dont have a minor companions.

If I recall correctly the strict lockdown started last March of 2020, we are coerce to stop working (as not a frontliner) and stay at home to prevent the virus from spreading. That time its really depressing specially if you dont have savings to count on for your daily needs but you cant do anything since you cant go outside to work. Good thing there's a relief goods from the government that really help the unfortunate people to survive the pandemic.

There are many bad sides of this lockdown but I am positive to only think of its good sides. I have more time to spend in my family, do the things that I dont usually do because of being busy at work and with the help of internet I learned just by watching videos on youtube about baking and crafting.

[hulla]

The pandemic totally changes everything and makes us see the world as a different thing but one thing I understand about complying with the total lockdown and dealing with the financial and the mental repercussions caused by the pandemic/lockdown is that it better to stay alive than get kill by the virus.
The only way I depressed about the financial and mental repercussions is by taking an online class and looking for an online job that will bring something good for me. In the meantime, the Greece government ought to make a huge step in getting the virus vaccine.

[maxreish]

I kinda understand that the psychological effect of this lockdown is truly enters one's system. Especially those who just lost their job and stayed at home until now since last year. Negative effects like fear, mental health conditions etc. Those who can't bear those sudden changes in life will go through a hard times.

But then, we can also divert ourselves from this repercussions by having a good mindset and doing other things like focusing on bitcoin trading, family spending, etc. There's  a lot of things to be focused on rather than being trap on a situation wherein we know that we can surpass this situation.

There are so many ways to cope that up and relieve your stress and overcome all of your bad feelings right now. Meditate and connection to the other people will somehow help you to feel comfortable.
We've been there before and now we are in an optimistic approach wherein we are strong enough to reduce that anxiety now. Bear in mind that it is not forever like this.

[xSkylarx]

But then, we can also divert ourselves from this repercussions by having a good mindset and doing other things like focusing on bitcoin trading, family spending, etc. There's  a lot of things to be focused on rather than being trap on a situation wherein we know that we can surpass this situation.

The problem is some people who lost their work are suffering from depression because they don't know where to get a source of income for their family. Some of them have a field of work that is not applicable remotely and they are in a country where there is a strict lockdown. What you said is impossible to do if the main issue is money.

Your surroundings or environment will affect how you will cope up with depression. If you surround yourself with optimist type of people, they can help you think properly and will give you some ideas on how to have a source of income even if at home.

[Wind_FURY]

OP, what I do is meditate and focus on the Serenity Prayer. I was never a religious person, but the pandemic has caused me to question some aspects in my life. Like drinking until I pass out. Hahaha.

Plus, expect the worse. I believe the institutions are not buying Bitcoin for profit, they might be hedging for a major economic crisis.

[Strongkored]

the situation is increasingly uncertain, especially in my country, several times on holidays people are allowed to travel for vacation and the impact of the increase in the number of covid cases has risen very high, so that for me who has lost my job and business is not going as expected, the situation is getting more difficult (can I said that right now I am on depression), I'm sure there are many out there who are in worse condition.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

keep on thinking positively and listening to music that can inspire and increase knowledge and skills.

[zanezane]

OP, what I do is meditate and focus on the Serenity Prayer. I was never a religious person, but the pandemic has caused me to question some aspects in my life. Like drinking until I pass out. Hahaha.

Plus, expect the worse. I believe the institutions are not buying Bitcoin for profit, they might be hedging for a major economic crisis.

Pretty nice that you can meditate, my way of coping with the pandemic is just by reading manga, watching anime, watching series or movies in Netflix, or read a book. The quote above seems to be changed man after this lockdown, I hope that you won't relapse and go back to the old ways. I really love the lockdown in my area because I am not an outdoor person although some birthday invites gets me out of my house. I am against the long lockdown although I love it but if the government in my country always messes up which in turn makes the lockdown longer then it is not acceptable.

[Lucius]

My thoughts exactly, the results of the protective measures (Quarantine, limited mobility and so on) along with the vaccination and the rise in temperature that is coming in the following months will relieve the population and the health sector. I believe that things will do get better after March or April, however, is the same thing going to happen the next winter?

My guess would be probably not, due to the vaccination and the acquired immunity, but measures will probably be taken then too.

What is still insufficiently researched is how long the immunity of a person who has survived the virus lasts - and also how long a particular vaccine gives someone immunity. Therefore, it is possible that people will have to be vaccinated every year, as is the case with the flu - and that wearing protective masks and disinfecting will be something that will be needed for years to come. Now there are 2 big problems, insufficient doses of vaccine for everyone, and a few very dangerous mutations of the virus for which again it is not possible to prove at the moment that the current vaccines work.

The fact is that people have to learn to deal with reality - those who reject it and want everything to be as before live in one big misconception that humans are superior beings on this planet, and in fact it is a virus invisible to the human eye that has turned the world upside down.

[virasisog]

Where I live, cases are not that rampant. There may be some cases maybe 1 or 2 from time to time but it gets easily contained. We are free to go outside and most establishments are open, which I think is not that depressing compared to the early phase of lockdown. Most companies and offices are operating. However, this is a little alarming knowing that our country's medical system is not that high and we also have limited facilities now that new variants of Covid cases are rising around from country to country. I hope everyone else is doing fine financially and mentally during this pandemic. l, and we will get past this.

[jasonjm]

The situation in my country is also the same and is very depressing for me. I am a person who love to socialize and love travelling with Covid-19 threats and lockdown I was not able to go outside and spent almost a good 2 months in my home. With lockdown many small business were badly affected and majority of private sector employees lost their jobs because of the economic conditions. But now with Covid-19 vaccines hopefully everything will go back to normal and people will earn breads for their family easily.

[Vatimins]

     Honestly, it really is very difficult specially for the regular people and small business owners. Hours outsiyare limited, some services and businesses are also disallowed, which leads to loss of hundres of thousands of jobs in the whole country. Curfew hours makes it even worse. Even simply buying basic needs and necessities became tedious tasks since only one person per household can do this and a permit for this is needed. I can go on and on with all the troubles that I and my fellow countrymen experience but the bottom line is the lapses of the government, unpreparedness, and lack of innovative ideas in making solutions that would make the lives of everyone easier which would lead to fast adaptation to the new normal that is inevitable.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Where I live, cases are not that rampant. There may be some cases maybe 1 or 2 from time to time but it gets easily contained. We are free to go outside and most establishments are open, which I think is not that depressing compared to the early phase of lockdown. Most companies and offices are operating. However, this is a little alarming knowing that our country's medical system is not that high and we also have limited facilities now that new variants of Covid cases are rising around from country to country. I hope everyone else is doing fine financially and mentally during this pandemic. l, and we will get past this.

Here in India also that is the case. New infections have declined by almost 90% when compared to the numbers we had in September and October. Now the pandemic is mostly confined to two states (Kerala and Maharashtra) and in the other regions the situation has returned to normal. Most of the IT professionals are still working from home, and it may continue for at least the next 2-3 months.

I have noticed something strange about this pandemic. In countries such as the United States and European Union, the fatality rate and number of deaths are much higher when compared to developing nations such as India and the Philippines. For example, in the United States they have 483,200 deaths till now. On the other hand, India has recorded only 155,399 deaths, despite having a population that is 5 times bigger than the United States.

[finaleshot2016]

Lockdown really helps on lowering the case of confirmed cases of COVID-19 but it's also lowering the economy rate as we know that the production rate is absolutely zero. Here in my country, confirmed cases are increasing daily, sometimes it's low but most of the time, it's going up, and yet our government is not implementing 2nd lockdown because they knew that it will cause too much damage to our economy. Tbh, IDK what our government is thinking and if their actions will definitely help us to recover, or maybe their decisions are just for them who'll benefit from the tax. Having lockdown is very sad, can't even go outside where you can refresh and can't go to work where you earn money so it's very difficult for some to have 3rd lockdown.

[kolbalish]

We all know about covid-19, it creates a situation that I have never seen before. It's terrible and fearable which means no one in the world is relieved from the effect of covid-19 directly or indirectly. During the pandemic, we face the situation that can't go out from home to work, to shopping, to education, even treatment. The economy was badly injured at this time. My repercussions about the pandemic are totally dangerous and I pray to my Almighty for relief from the situation.

[BuNga_cute]

The beginning of COVID-19 spread, many people panicked in my country, especially when the lockdown was first imposed. I am very stressed,
because I'm not used to staying at home for 2 weeks. I was confused about what to do, only fear was on my mind. But after several months had
passed, I'm getting used to COVID-19. Because I already have the knowledge to avoid getting infected by COVID-19.

[iv4n]

It's crazy what is happening! Locking down the entire world is crazy! And for what? Because of Covid that have a lower death rate than many other diseases!?
I think this is a big game, nothing more! They marked some invisible enemy and now they are forcing all of us to believe in that, to not question anything they do, to be calm and afraid at home, not to socialize, and not stand up against repressions!
What I see is that extensive damage is done! To the economy, to the people's lives, in material and spiritual way! And for what? I think some will have hard problems recovering from this, and it's sad! How can we make progress if they tie us up?

[oHnK]

Hello, I hope your country's condition will improve soon. My current condition is not in lockdown, because my country does not enforce it in my region but only in other regions of my country. It must be very hard with the lockdown conditions that you experience, the government in my country seems to let the spread of Covid-19 just like that. Because for my country, lockdowns are not the solution to this pandemic, the impact resulting from lockdowns is far greater than the impact of the disease itself. Those who were attacked were not only physically but psychologically as well. So what only applies in my area is the application of health protocols only.

[Renampun]

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*hello, nice to know you...
I'm lucky to live in a city that doesn't do lockdown. even so, the tourism business is still sluggish. fortunately, my husband has started working again at the hotel where he worked before but with a small salary. I only try to think positively about living life in this pandemic.

[Darker45]

Many of us are caught almost helpless in these dreadful times. We are at a health crisis and yet its effect is so immense that it well stretches into the economy, education, mental-health, and many more aspects of our human lives.

At the very least, it's a good thing that you can still go out cycling and exercise and do basic shopping. It means you are still more or less free.

We both share the same situation. It's an unpleasant situation. Neither of us would have wanted our lives to be like this. However, in these dire times, we could be classified as the very lucky ones. If you can stay at home, sit on a soft couch and watch Netflix or whatever, browse through Facebook or Twitter, watch your favorite TV show, cook food, read a book, shower, and so on and so forth, you are very lucky indeed. I cannot do all of them but I'm still very lucky just the same. 

For the hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, this pandemic is not much of a health crisis as a diabolical economic crisis. Jobs are lost. Livelihood and small businesses went bankrupt. This means food on the table is gone. That's the worst!

[Noctis Connor]

Well since the lockdown started here in my country too many have been affected not only by their business or what so ever, and it was the best solution to lessen the cases since we've been on 500k cases and yet too many people are still hard headed still going out thinking that they are the only one who affect in this situation and still blame the government and local government but they always looking for a solution and then solution came out and still complaining about the vaccine and it is still up to you whether you  want to get vaccinated or not, But in some provinces some of tourist spot and other business are now opened and operating but you still need some documents before you go in some places , some other places doesn't believed in covid they like it was created to scare people to not go out.

[magneto]

Must be really tough over there in Greece with lockdowns, financial instability and IMF austerity conditions to adhere to from a fiscal perspective.

I do feel you. It's not as bad here but it's pretty much the same story.

In terms of macroeconomics, COVID lockdowns simply means that there is a lot of excess, spare capacity in the economy that is unutilised. People are willing to provide their labour, but because of restrictions, they legally cannot. That can probably be shown best by the uptick in unemployment and underemployment worldwide.

What is laughable is that markets are rallying hard from the stimulus packages, whilst Main St. is still struggling... It's sad to see, honestly.

[Janation]

As far as I know, here in our country, it started in March.

I can't forget that because we are still in the province at that time. Luckily it is not that hard to be in lockdown in provinces as you could just get food everywhere, your neighbors would even give you food if they cook something good. The government is strict when it comes to the implementation of health protocols but it is fine as all I need is just an internet connection.

Going back to the city, to be honest, it is much lighter than the provinces. I can't argue with that since the province is so small so it is really dangerous when a carrier gets through. It is much more depressing being locked down in the city as you are a prisoner of your own house. In terms of food, I have some shortages unlike in the province. It is really bad in the city but in the province, it is much better. Still, it is the worst year but I saved a lot of money since I don't get out much.

[coin-investor]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

We also have a one-month lockdown and since we are living in a depressed area we got our relief goods coming from the government this is to prevent people from going out, it's really depressing in our areas because three families are cramming in a 50 sqm meter house it's really is depressing, but we need to heed the call of our government to protect ourselves, we have to take it whether we like it or not.

[Ultegra134]

Great replies from all of you, read every single one of them. It would be great if you we could also take notes of the country you live.

Currently, I'm temporarily suspended from work, thus I have to stay at home most of the day. It really sucks, because other EU countries have imposed far better response measures. Here, the government is doing the exact opposite, instead of announcing measures to increase the health's system capacity, or a more effective vaccination program, they impose measures that have been proved to not be effective, while hurting the economy even further.

Not only that, the prime minister Mitsotakis and the other members of the parliament (Of his party of course), are dining in Ikaria in broad daylight, open for everyone to see. If I did that, I'd have to pay an enormous fine instead. We only hear excuses for their actions while at the same time they are provoking their own citizens.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/07/greek-prime-minister-criticised-for-lunch-with-up-to-40-people

We also have a one-month lockdown and since we are living in a depressed area we got our relief goods coming from the government this is to prevent people from going out, it's really depressing in our areas because three families are cramming in a 50 sqm meter house it's really is depressing, but we need to heed the call of our government to protect ourselves, we have to take it whether we like it or not.

One month? Well, I wouldn't really complain, we're closed since the start  of November. That's 5 months.

My thoughts exactly, the results of the protective measures (Quarantine, limited mobility and so on) along with the vaccination and the rise in temperature that is coming in the following months will relieve the population and the health sector. I believe that things will do get better after March or April, however, is the same thing going to happen the next winter?

My guess would be probably not, due to the vaccination and the acquired immunity, but measures will probably be taken then too.

What is still insufficiently researched is how long the immunity of a person who has survived the virus lasts - and also how long a particular vaccine gives someone immunity. Therefore, it is possible that people will have to be vaccinated every year, as is the case with the flu - and that wearing protective masks and disinfecting will be something that will be needed for years to come. Now there are 2 big problems, insufficient doses of vaccine for everyone, and a few very dangerous mutations of the virus for which again it is not possible to prove at the moment that the current vaccines work.

The fact is that people have to learn to deal with reality - those who reject it and want everything to be as before live in one big misconception that humans are superior beings on this planet, and in fact it is a virus invisible to the human eye that has turned the world upside down.

Correct, there is not enough research yet, but I do hope that the rising temperatures help this condition. Moreover, vaccinations here are moving on a very slow pace.

[Lucius]

Moreover, vaccinations here are moving on a very slow pace.

How incompetent the EU leadership is when it comes to protecting its citizens and their health is shown by the fact that there are no vaccines even in approximately sufficient quantities to meet the needs to vaccinate those most vulnerable people. All manufacturers have committed to deliver a certain amount of vaccines but then at a crucial moment they directed their production to some other countries.

Do you really need to be a detective to figure out where millions of doses of vaccine went missing, if at the same time the UK, Israel and the US don’t have those problems? The same thing that happened with protective equipment at the beginning of the pandemic is happening now with the vaccine - the EU has not yet realized that if it plays strictly according to the rules, it will not be able to vaccinate even 30% of the population by the end of this year.

Some countries, such as Hungary, have realized that they will not fare well if they rely entirely on the EU - so they have already agreed with the Russians and the Chinese on their vaccines and will soon implement them in their healthcare system.

The country of around 10 million people is scheduled to receive 600,000 doses of Sputnik and another half a million doses of Sinopharm’s vaccine this month, potentially allowing it to speed up its inoculation programme despite delays in Western vaccine deliveries.

[AicecreaME]

Covid-19 impacted negatively almost every aspects of our lives. The surge of cases in most countries definitely had huge repercussions in terms of economy and well-being of the citizens in that particular place.

Personally, this pandemic is driving me nuts as well. I can relate to you. Except that our place isn’t as strict as yours as of the moment. Since recently, the security measures were eased out depending on number of cases in an area. In our place, we’re placed under General Community Quarantine (GCQ). Of course, there are still several activities that are prohibited and policies to abide, but I can say that it’s manageable.

For a person that is used to being active doing errands outside the house, this crisis is such a burden and headache. Being confined at home, with limited things to do is so depressing. Most of the times, I feel empty, lonely, and sad for no specific reason. I guess this is one of the psychological effect of the pandemic to our mental health. Being deprived of what makes us happy because of safety precautions is such a real challenge. We have to sacrifice even though we have a strong urge going outside in order to prevent contacting the virus, as well as to protect the people surrounding us.

Regarding financial repercussions, this crisis brought down the economies of almost every country last 2020. Majority of the countries aren’t equipped and prepared enough for such turn of events, hence some resorted to borrowing money from other countries and even in world bank. There was an increase rate of unemployment all over the world. Different industries suffered. Many establishments, companies, and businesses closed and filed bankruptcy. It was hard to everyone even those at the top of the pyramid. The only difference is they can manage and can still survive despite big losses, while poorest of the poor can’t do much and suffer from hunger. There were even instances that because of poverty, some people opt to do things that are immoral, illegal, dangerous, and punishable by law.

These are just some of the repercussions of the pandemic. This is somewhat just the tip of the iceberg. There are still many aspects I haven’t discussed yet. Hopefully, this year will be the year of healing. May the production of vaccine be continuous and  I hope it’ll cause no bad side effects. May everyone be vaccinated safely. Let’s conquer this pandemic altogether.

[redsun114]

the prime minister Mitsotakis and the other members of the parliament (Of his party of course), are dining in Ikaria in broad daylight, open for everyone to see. If I did that, I'd have to pay an enormous fine instead. We only hear excuses for their actions while at the same time they are provoking their own citizens.

I remember the picture Mitsotakis had when he was taking his vaccination and how the internet world reacted lol . Never knew any politicians from Greece, no idea who was your PM or anything about it really but that picture was a meme for like a week at least. All jokes aside it is not about Greece only, there are too many nations that didn't do anything major, some nations are better than the others in the long term future because they have covered their bases better, but in short term it was common situation everywhere.

I have seen at least 5 big nations leaders being not careful and needed to be reminded, so I can definitely say that it is not something that only Greece has but all the world had. We needed a lot better situation, we needed more lockdowns and better responses, basically we needed politicians to take this seriously but most of them unfortunately didn't.

[zasad@]

I'll show you what's going on in Russia.
The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November)
The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November)

The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people.


https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242

Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem.
There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home.

[Ultegra134]

I'll show you what's going on in Russia.
The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November)
The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November)

The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people.


https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242

Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem.
There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home.

How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik, and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand.

[zasad@]

I'll show you what's going on in Russia.
The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November)
The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November)

The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people.


https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242

Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem.
There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home.

How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik , and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand.

In Russia, there is a vaccination with Sputnik V, but do not think that everything is fine.
Vaccinations are done in 2 stages, first the 1st vaccination, the second after 2 weeks. I have no medical education and cannot tell about the side effects of this vaccine. No one knows the consequences of introducing virus genes into the body and how this will affect human health.
The worst thing is that after the vaccination, the immunity is greatly weakened, and if you get sick with the coronavirus at this time, then you will have big problems.
Full immunity is formed 42 days after stage 2.
Many people have a high fever for several days after each vaccination for several days.

You can read the review
https://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/sdelal-vtoruyu-privivku-sputnik-v-i-proveril-antitela-01-31-2021

There are a lot of lies in the news, it's hard to find the truth, any criticism is blocked. I will not do this vaccine even if they pay me money for it Until then, there is no more information.

[Smartprofit]

I'll show you what's going on in Russia.
The red line on the graph is mortality in Russia for 2020 from January to November)
The blue line on the graph is the death rate in Russia for 2019 from January to November)

The increase in mortality in 2020 compared to 2019 was 339 640 people.


https://zen.yandex.ru/media/burckina_faso/kritikuiu-cifry-tatiany-golikovoi-o-sverhcmeptnocti-rossiian-v-2020-godu-60221d64eccec86b33ad4242

Lockdowns only in large cities, In other cities there is no control, the necessary medical care, doctors and all hospitals are overcrowded. So if a person gets sick, then that will be his problem.
There was a lockdown in my city, but only documented for the report. In practice, no one forces you to stay at home.

How are the vaccinations going there in Russia? You have your own vaccine, Sputnik, and your own production line. You're pretty much independent in that sector. It's a shame that European Countries haven't co-operated with Russia to accommodate the high demand in vaccines. So far, the EU has contracted with pharmaceutical companies (Pfizer, AstraZeneca) that were unable to supply the increased demand.

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

[verita1]

I am sorry for the situation you are facing due to the protection measures for Covid19. Do not feel distressed think that soon you will leave the confinement. Look for God in the Bible, he will give you peace and tranquility and you will be filled with joy.

I will share my first impression when the lockdown started in my country (Venezuela). I felt a lot of terror, I felt that the world would soon end and that I had an enormous responsibility to take care of my family, although I am a person who frequently suffers from allergies I could not send my mother to buy groceries, I should do it at all risk and with God from my hand and I did so until now.

Fortunately, I have not been infected, but my immune system has suffered but daily I look for a way to strengthen it. Only faith in God that everything will end is what makes me strong and I do not look at my confinement with concern because I know that I am a person vulnerable to the virus.

[Oasisman]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

[Mahanton]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

I would really be having doubts on taking those vaccines without seeing it first on what are the possible side-effects that would really come out soon or later on.
This is just new and we cant really remove on someones thoughts or mind on those possibilities.We don't like to experience those negative effects.
Here in my country it isn't really that mandatory but health professionals are being mandated to do so.

Lets see if there would be no side-effects for this one for a certain period of time and if its really that effective as they say.

[Sithara007]

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

Actually Russia is one of the few countries with an oversupply of the vaccine right now. As per the government, some 1.7 million people have received both doses of the vaccine so far, but the number of individuals enrolling for the vaccination program is slowing down. There seems to be a lot of mistrust. But this vaccine (Sputnik V) is being exported to a large number of countries including Argentina and the UAE and in these countries the people are very positive about it.

[plr]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Lockdowns are very depressing and we have experienced that in the early months of the pandemic because you are exposed to something dangerous and you have to think and act the way you have not done before, but you have to endure this and we have to make ourselves stronger on this challenges, we are glad that this will soon be over, and we will go back to normal again.

[Smartprofit]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  This is due to political protests and demonstrations.  The authorities are afraid of popular discontent. 

The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning.  According to my observations, people are now very sick. 

I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus.  The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases. 

In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination.  Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine.  Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn.  This is a smart approach. 

Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic.  This has not been done before.  In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists.

[Ultegra134]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  This is due to political protests and demonstrations.  The authorities are afraid of popular discontent. 

The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning.  According to my observations, people are now very sick. 

I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus.  The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases. 

In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination.  Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine.  Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn.  This is a smart approach. 

Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic.  This has not been done before.  In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists.

I understand, I am not against vaccinations by any means, the faster the population gets vaccinated, the quicker we'll return to some kind of normalcy.
However, at least here and most European Countries, it is advised to not get vaccinated if you're experiencing severe allergies. We haven't had any severe cases here so far.

If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right?

[bryant.coleman]

If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right?

Suptnik V is a "Non-replicating viral vector" vaccine. On the other hand, the vaccines from both Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA-based vaccines.

Sputnik V is created by genetically modifying the Adenovirus (common cold virus) by inserting COVID-19 genetic material in to it. The virus can't replicate inside the human body, but the COVID-19 genetic material present in it will cause human body to produce antibodies against the Coronavirus infection. RNA based vaccines uses modRNA from the virus cell to trigger immune response from the human body.

[zasad@]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects.
Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this.
As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds.
Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.

[Smartprofit]

~snip~

~snip~

A friend of mine was vaccinated against Sputnik-V coronavirus.  

According to him, this is a difficult test for the body.  The vaccine is perceived as a foreign substance.  For two or three days his arm was very sore.  He was drenched in sweat.  However, then these symptoms disappeared.  For this, the second injection is much worse tolerated by the vaccinated than the first.  

Many Russians are skeptical about the use of the vaccine.  

This applies not only to Sputnik-V, but in general to any vaccine developed in the world.

I see. So, the vaccine had an immediate short term side effect.
We, in our country has not have the vaccine yet. But do they run an allergy test before injecting the vaccine into your body?
Or that's a normal reaction your friend have experienced after taking the vaccine? And, is taking the vaccines compulsory in your country?
I'm sorry If I'm asking these questions, Im just a bit worried about it's short and long term effect to a human body especially with senior citizens and children.

Currently, there is no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  Most likely, there will be no compulsory vaccination in Russia.  This is due to political protests and demonstrations.  The authorities are afraid of popular discontent.  

The official version of the authorities is that the coronavirus epidemic in Russia is waning.  According to my observations, people are now very sick.  

I don't know what people get sick - colds and flu or coronavirus.  The end of winter - the beginning of spring is the peak of viral and respiratory diseases.  

In Russia (as far as I know), patients are not tested for allergies and antibodies before vaccination.  Moreover, the presence of antibodies is a contraindication to the administration of the vaccine.  Putin said he would be vaccinated closer to autumn.  This is a smart approach.  

Vaccination campaigns cannot be carried out during an epidemic.  This has not been done before.  In the fight against the pandemic, unfortunately, the main role is played by officials, and not professional doctors - virologists.

I understand, I am not against vaccinations by any means, the faster the population gets vaccinated, the quicker we'll return to some kind of normalcy.
However, at least here and most European Countries, it is advised to not get vaccinated if you're experiencing severe allergies. We haven't had any severe cases here so far.

If I am not mistaken, the Sputnik vaccine is not an mRNA one like those from Pfizer or AstraZenera, those that we have in Europe. Am I right?

No, Sputnik-V has a fundamentally different operating principle.  

You can use the following comic explanation of the principle of action.  

Virologists took a well-known adenovirus and cut off his penis and eggs.  They then took the coronavirus virus, also cut off his penis and eggs, and attached the Covid-19 penis and eggs to the body of the adenovirus.  Then this creature was injected through a syringe into the human body.  The resulting bastard tries to fuck human cells and multiply.  However, his penis does not rise.  

The cells start screaming, “Help!  Rape!" Immunity is turned on, and the alien is expelled from the body in disgrace.  After that, photos of the penis and coronavirus eggs are posted on all information boards with a note - "The police are looking for them!"  

If the coronavirus does not undergo a very strong mutation, then it will no longer be able to attack a person.

[zasad@]

Hex
The main problem is that the coronavirus mutates.
I have read different forecasts that the vaccine is valid for 1-4 years, but these are only assumptions.


The Vaccine           Manufacturer               Type
BNT162b2               Pfizer / BioNTech                mRNA Vaccine
mRNA-1273            Moderna                       mRNA Vaccine
ChAdOx1              AstraZeneca                   Vector Vaccine (adenovirus)
JNJ-78436735    Johnson & Johnson             Vector Vaccine (adenovirus)
CoronaVac          Sinovac                              Inactivated Virus
Sputnik V         Gamalei Institute              Vector vaccine (adenovirus)
Ad5-nCoV             CanSino                       Vector vaccine (adenovirus)
https://deep-review.com/articles/what-is-mrna-vaccine-coronavirus/

The mRNA vaccine is very expensive because it requires special conditions for transportation and storage.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects.
Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this.
As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds.
Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.

But something needs to be done against COVID 19, right? From your own data (that you posted previously), there have been close to 400,000 excess deaths in the past 5-6 months. This is a huge number, especially for a country such as Russia where the population decline was underway even before the pandemic started spreading. Apart from vaccination, what are the other options?

The Sputnik V clinical trial data is published in Lancet, which happens to be one of the most reputed medical journals out there. It shows that the vaccine has a 92% efficacy against the virus. That means if the people were vaccinated from the start, then more than 360,000 deaths could have been prevented just in Russia. So as long as we don't have reports of large number of people dying as a result of vaccination, I am not going to argue against it.

[zasad@]

Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects.
Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this.
As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds.
Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.

But something needs to be done against COVID 19, right? From your own data (that you posted previously), there have been close to 400,000 excess deaths in the past 5-6 months. This is a huge number, especially for a country such as Russia where the population decline was underway even before the pandemic started spreading. Apart from vaccination, what are the other options?

The Sputnik V clinical trial data is published in Lancet, which happens to be one of the most reputed medical journals out there. It shows that the vaccine has a 92% efficacy against the virus. That means if the people were vaccinated from the start, then more than 360,000 deaths could have been prevented just in Russia. So as long as we don't have reports of large number of people dying as a result of vaccination, I am not going to argue against it.

There are alternative studies that show that the rise in disease and eridemia occurs at the most difficult times for the country.
This statistics for the city of St. Petersburg, which shows the statistics of the growth of diphtheria, dysentery and samlmonellosis in 1993-1994 in 10-15 times. These years were very difficult for Russia. The USSR collapsed and throughout the country there was a struggle for power between security officials, criminals and politicians.


https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5f996e08aaa12e504f707b4d/profgundarov-ia-o-speshke-s-vakcinaciei-i-sekretnoi-statistike-6020f96553bb652e6a93a82c
I do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country.
Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.

[FlightyPouch]

It is really hard to cope with this pandemic. The feeling of thinking that it will end so quickly but it isn't. A lot of people are having a hard time following the protocols which usually bring more cases here in the province. It is hard to work especially that we are not used to these kinds of methods but education needed to be there that is why we must find ways to teach our students.

It is stressful and we are so worried about our students not learning from our modules especially that we don't have that fast internet connection and some of them don't even have a phone or a cell signal.

[salty]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

In my country, at the moment, you can do almost absolutely everything. Some even had their salaries increased. The only thing that depresses me is wearing insulation masks. I really want to forget about them and never use them again in my life. If we talk about the world of crypto, as you can see since March 2020, the capitalization of the cryptocurrency market is only growing and does not stop. I am sure that this depressing situation only played into the hands of the cryptocurrency market.

[Furious 7]

It is really hard to cope with this pandemic. The feeling of thinking that it will end so quickly but it isn't. A lot of people are having a hard time following the protocols which usually bring more cases here in the province. It is hard to work especially that we are not used to these kinds of methods but education needed to be there that is why we must find ways to teach our students.

It is stressful and we are so worried about our students not learning from our modules especially that we don't have that fast internet connection and some of them don't even have a phone or a cell signal.

The impact of so much of Covid-19 in my area is that the total students have not been able to go to school for almost a year and they are now difficult to communicate even less educated because their lessons are no longer there, I always ask why this pandemic is taking so long many people they become chaotic and criminals occur everywhere because they are in trouble in the economy, therefore they can run the order.

The students are now only silent without any assignments while online schools will not be maximized, like going to a school that has a strong instinct from the teacher, therefore if the pandemic is over then we will be happy with the activities being up to date.

[Vishnu.Reang]

~
I do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country.
Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.

I have friends from Russia, and they have told me about this. It is really sad. People dying because of poverty, despite the fact that Russia is the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas in the world. And it's not just the oil and gas. Until the disintegration of the USSR, they were the world leaders in space and medical technology. The universities and medical schools were among the best in the world. Here in India, a lot of people have fond memories of the USSR. Some of our best doctors and engineers were educated in the Soviet universities.

During 2009-14, the crude oil price was above $100 per barrel and Russia was producing anywhere from 10 million to 11 million barrels per day. That is $1 billion worth of crude oil per day!!! Works out to $365 billion per year. Where did all these money went? On top of that Gazprom exports around 200 billion cubic meters of natural gas every year to Europe, and during 2009-14, the prices averaged $400 per thousand cubic meter. On top of that, they were the top producers of several other commodities including coal, steel, nickel, aluminum, gold.etc.

Even if we take the average revenue per year at $500 billion, it works out to around $12,500 per family per year. The average salary here in India is around 8% of that amount.

[Ultegra134]

Any vaccine is dangerous to do if a person has chronic diseases. Most people in Russia over 55 have chronic diseases, so no one can predict side effects.
Before the vaccination, you sign a special agreement, and if something happens to you after the vaccination, then the medical institution that gave you the vaccine will not be responsible for this.
As far as I know, children are not given the vaccine. Friends were sick with coronavirus, and their children had symptoms of mild colds.
Maybe it's good that there is no vaccine in your country, because it has not yet been tested.

But something needs to be done against COVID 19, right? From your own data (that you posted previously), there have been close to 400,000 excess deaths in the past 5-6 months. This is a huge number, especially for a country such as Russia where the population decline was underway even before the pandemic started spreading. Apart from vaccination, what are the other options?

The Sputnik V clinical trial data is published in Lancet, which happens to be one of the most reputed medical journals out there. It shows that the vaccine has a 92% efficacy against the virus. That means if the people were vaccinated from the start, then more than 360,000 deaths could have been prevented just in Russia. So as long as we don't have reports of large number of people dying as a result of vaccination, I am not going to argue against it.

I couldn't agree more, no kind of medicine can stop or ease the transition, only alleviate symptoms and/or decrease mortality. Our only key here is vaccination. Sputnik's clinical trial data are encouraging, and so are of the other vaccines of Pfizer and AstraZeneca. We should also expect more vaccines to be released by Johnson & Johnson, Sinovac and others. Thus, it is extremely likely that it will solve issues with the high demand we're experiencing currently.

[salty]

~
I do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country.
Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.

I have friends from Russia, and they have told me about this. It is really sad. People dying because of poverty, despite the fact that Russia is the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas in the world. And it's not just the oil and gas. Until the disintegration of the USSR, they were the world leaders in space and medical technology. The universities and medical schools were among the best in the world. Here in India, a lot of people have fond memories of the USSR. Some of our best doctors and engineers were educated in the Soviet universities.

During 2009-14, the crude oil price was above $100 per barrel and Russia was producing anywhere from 10 million to 11 million barrels per day. That is $1 billion worth of crude oil per day!!! Works out to $365 billion per year. Where did all these money went? On top of that Gazprom exports around 200 billion cubic meters of natural gas every year to Europe, and during 2009-14, the prices averaged $400 per thousand cubic meter. On top of that, they were the top producers of several other commodities including coal, steel, nickel, aluminum, gold.etc.

Even if we take the average revenue per year at $500 billion, it works out to around $12,500 per family per year. The average salary here in India is around 8% of that amount.

I don't understand why you should only count the profit from oil. Why does no one think about the costs that Russia incurs? The best programmers and the best people live in Russia and I am proud of it. In India, in your opinion, the average monthly income is about $ 1000? I think this figure is too high.

[Cling18]

I am sorry for the situation you are facing due to the protection measures for Covid19. Do not feel distressed think that soon you will leave the confinement. Look for God in the Bible, he will give you peace and tranquility and you will be filled with joy.

I will share my first impression when the lockdown started in my country (Venezuela). I felt a lot of terror, I felt that the world would soon end and that I had an enormous responsibility to take care of my family, although I am a person who frequently suffers from allergies I could not send my mother to buy groceries, I should do it at all risk and with God from my hand and I did so until now.

Fortunately, I have not been infected, but my immune system has suffered but daily, I look for a way to strengthen it. Only faith in God that everything will end is what makes me strong, and I do not look at my confinement with concern because I know that I am a person vulnerable to the virus.

In our country, we had been quarantined since March last year. We have been locked down for a couple of months, but right now, we're able to adjust and deal with the changes. Wearing a mask and face shield seems normal to us. Social distancing and curfews are part of our daily lives. We're not bothered about the number of Covid cases anymore. During this pandemic, we have no choice but to continue living. We should survive and be optimistic in life. The economic situation might crash, but we have to look for opportunities to sustain life and continue living.

[Smartprofit]

~
I do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country.
Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.

I have friends from Russia, and they have told me about this. It is really sad. People dying because of poverty, despite the fact that Russia is the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas in the world. And it's not just the oil and gas. Until the disintegration of the USSR, they were the world leaders in space and medical technology. The universities and medical schools were among the best in the world. Here in India, a lot of people have fond memories of the USSR. Some of our best doctors and engineers were educated in the Soviet universities.

During 2009-14, the crude oil price was above $100 per barrel and Russia was producing anywhere from 10 million to 11 million barrels per day. That is $1 billion worth of crude oil per day!!! Works out to $365 billion per year. Where did all these money went? On top of that Gazprom exports around 200 billion cubic meters of natural gas every year to Europe, and during 2009-14, the prices averaged $400 per thousand cubic meter. On top of that, they were the top producers of several other commodities including coal, steel, nickel, aluminum, gold.etc.

Even if we take the average revenue per year at $500 billion, it works out to around $12,500 per family per year. The average salary here in India is around 8% of that amount.

Oil and gas revenues from 2004 to 2014 were spent on insane consumption.  This was the period when Russians fell in love with luxury and glamor. 

1990-2000 was a decade of poverty and banditry.  So when that decade ended, all Russians began to make up for lost time.  The oligarchs built skyscrapers, bought huge yachts and spent money on elite prostitutes.  Many of them have acquired harems of young and beautiful girls.  The middle class also improved their living conditions, did expensive apartment renovations, traveled to Europe and exotic countries, and dined in restaurants. 

The period from 2004 to 2014 was perhaps the best decade in Russian history.

However, these relatively good times are over.

[zasad@]

~
I do not dissuade anyone from vaccinations, but I know how statistics are drawn in my country.
Most people in Russia die not because of epidemics, but because of poverty. They have no money for treatment.

I have friends from Russia, and they have told me about this. It is really sad. People dying because of poverty, despite the fact that Russia is the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas in the world. And it's not just the oil and gas. Until the disintegration of the USSR, they were the world leaders in space and medical technology. The universities and medical schools were among the best in the world. Here in India, a lot of people have fond memories of the USSR. Some of our best doctors and engineers were educated in the Soviet universities.

During 2009-14, the crude oil price was above $100 per barrel and Russia was producing anywhere from 10 million to 11 million barrels per day. That is $1 billion worth of crude oil per day!!! Works out to $365 billion per year. Where did all these money went? On top of that Gazprom exports around 200 billion cubic meters of natural gas every year to Europe, and during 2009-14, the prices averaged $400 per thousand cubic meter. On top of that, they were the top producers of several other commodities including coal, steel, nickel, aluminum, gold.etc.

Even if we take the average revenue per year at $500 billion, it works out to around $12,500 per family per year. The average salary here in India is around 8% of that amount.

The average salary in Russia is about $ 650 according to Rosstat, but this is all a hoax.
Most people work for $ 200-300 a month.
In rural areas, a $ 100 salary is the norm.
There is huge corruption in Russia, budgets are being stolen.
The situation has changed a long time ago.

[FlightyPouch]

It is really hard to cope with this pandemic. The feeling of thinking that it will end so quickly but it isn't. A lot of people are having a hard time following the protocols which usually bring more cases here in the province. It is hard to work especially that we are not used to these kinds of methods but education needed to be there that is why we must find ways to teach our students.

It is stressful and we are so worried about our students not learning from our modules especially that we don't have that fast internet connection and some of them don't even have a phone or a cell signal.

The impact of so much of Covid-19 in my area is that the total students have not been able to go to school for almost a year and they are now difficult to communicate even less educated because their lessons are no longer there, I always ask why this pandemic is taking so long many people they become chaotic and criminals occur everywhere because they are in trouble in the economy, therefore they can run the order.

The students are now only silent without any assignments while online schools will not be maximized, like going to a school that has a strong instinct from the teacher, therefore if the pandemic is over then we will be happy with the activities being up to date.

Don't say it like that. Doesn't mean that the schools can't do its full potential in these times doesn't mean that these students are less educated. Being educated doesn't just talks about their academic performance, that also talks about their well-being as a person. It is really hard but we need to cope because we can't just stop the school from functioning.

Although it is true that we are unsure of their capabilities now as a student, we should keep on giving them their needs and be available for them in times.

[Sithara007]

The average salary in Russia is about $ 650 according to Rosstat, but this is all a hoax.
Most people work for $ 200-300 a month.
In rural areas, a $ 100 salary is the norm.
There is huge corruption in Russia, budgets are being stolen.
The situation has changed a long time ago.

Obviously without corruption, the people would be much well off. That means that only around 10% of the revenue from natural resources is reaching the residents, while 80% to 90% is stolen. From what  I have heard, Russia is still having a decent education sector and that is the good thing. Young people at least have a chance to get skills that are in demand in the job market and migrate to the US or the EU. BTW, I hope that the medical sector will receive a big boost, after the grand success of Sputnik V.

[Xinarae*]

Corruption is a problem of every country corruption in the healthcare sector and corruption in the health infrastructure sector due to corruption is most prevalent in this sector in the procurement and distribution process we have seen that corruption even in this corona crisis due to which even if the government prepares the budget, it is being stolen poor people are suffering more discrimination in the medical sector. But Russia has improved a lot they have allocated more budget to the medical sector to overcome the effects of the virus and reduce the incidence of corruption.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The impact of Covid-19 is felt in various parts of the world, besides that it also affects the economy of every country, both developed and developing countries. However, in the world of good trading, especially Cripto, this certainly does not have a significant effect, because during the lockdown period the community tries to keep producing by trading or investing in stocks.

It has been almost one year (to be precise 11 months), since the lockdowns were first introduced in my country. Back in March 2020, when the lockdown was first announced, I never in my wildest dreams thought that it is going to extend for more than a month. But look at what we got. I feel sorry for all those people who lost their jobs. Some of my friends still don't have a job.

But for me, this entire episode turned out to be very beneficial. Since I am working in the IT sector, I am doing work from home for the last 11 months. The salary remains the same, and therefore savings in had has increased by almost 3 times. The expenses are down, since I am residing in a rural area right now. I just hope that the WFH will continue for another 4-5 months. No one want to go back to the office right now.

[DrBeer]

Hello from Ukraine !
About our situation:
The first "long" quarantine we had from 2020/03/12 to 2020/05/22. It was a total quarantine - only grocery stores, pharmacies, and utilities were partially working. Offices were closed, any shopping / entertainment establishments were closed, even public transport stopped working (there was an organized work of duty routes that ensure the movement of employees of medical institutions, police, utilities). Perhaps the most difficult period. The service business (restaurants, cinemas, cafes / pubs, travel companies, concert agencies, marketing agencies, ....) suffered the most.
The last "lockdown" is from 2021/01/08 to 2021/01/24.
Now the country is in the "orange zone", which means that there is no strict quarantine, but there are many restrictive measures.
Outcomes:
- First lockdown. The hardest part is the psychological factor. Complete isolation, "an extinct city", empty streets, usual services do not work ... A hard impression.
- After that, all the "short" restrictions no longer produced such a depressing impression, they got used to or adapted to the inconvenience.
- Of course, a huge problem is small business, private business, and almost all service companies.
- And most importantly, there is no real solution to the problem yet. Vaccination has just begun, there are no effective treatment protocols and most likely there will not be, a mutation of the virus, a "short" acquired immunity - all this makes you think, and clearly does not lead to positive thoughts ...
But there is also a positive one For example, having so much "free" time - I learned 2 new programming languages ​​for myself, 1 framework, deepened my knowledge in BI, spent time on sports every day - improved my physical shape, and much more on the little things.

[citywise2]

The impact of Covid-19 is felt in various parts of the world, besides that it also affects the economy of every country, both developed and developing countries. However, in the world of good trading, especially Cripto, this certainly does not have a significant effect, because during the lockdown period the community tries to keep producing by trading or investing in stocks.

You may want to know that Covid-19 had rather a positive effect on one hand in cryptocurrency. Aside the lost of jobs and people having to stay at home, the pandemic created a surge in demand for cryptocurrency, given the money from the air stimulus packages most countries had to embark upon was open doors for inflation. Fiat money was losing it's value here and there and people had to turn to cryptocurrency for safe haven.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The impact of Covid-19 is felt in various parts of the world, besides that it also affects the economy of every country, both developed and developing countries. However, in the world of good trading, especially Cripto, this certainly does not have a significant effect, because during the lockdown period the community tries to keep producing by trading or investing in stocks.

You may want to know that Covid-19 had rather a positive effect on one hand in cryptocurrency. Aside the lost of jobs and people having to stay at home, the pandemic created a surge in demand for cryptocurrency, given the money from the air stimulus packages most countries had to embark upon was open doors for inflation. Fiat money was losing it's value here and there and people had to turn to cryptocurrency for safe haven.

I can't agree with this statement. In March 2020, when the pandemic started spreading to countries outside China, there was a sharp drop in Bitcoin prices. The exchange rates plummeted from $10,000 to around $5,000-$6,000. On top of that, everyone was expecting a spike from the block reward halving in May 2020. That never happened, probably because of the economic downturn that was resulted from the pandemic. Now the current spike in Bitcoin prices is partly due to the fact that the stock markets are doing good and the economy has rebounded.

[velive08]

in my country the lockdown is not working and it only adds to the economic problem, because the people are pre-locked and cannot work as a result their income is zero and they become poor. lockdown actually cannot be applied to all countries, only a few countries can implement it.
To solve it in my country I applied to work from home, and this seemed unfair.
only educated groups such as teachers, civil servants, office employees and the like can work from home. while the workers can only watch while enduring sadness because they work part time.
so to overcome this there must be other options, namely the most effective work of making money from online whatever it will be a little help to the economy if the country really locks down.

[Sebas.tian]

Many things went down in my country because of the covid-19 that was causing death all over the country. Many farmers find it difficult to grow their crops during the raining season because of the lockdown the government has announced in the country to help them to put an end to covid-19 in the country.
I really obey the covid-19 protocol, which was put in place by the government to help the citizens to stop the spreading of the virus in the country.

[fullhdpixel]

I can't agree with this statement. In March 2020, when the pandemic started spreading to countries outside China, there was a sharp drop in Bitcoin prices. The exchange rates plummeted from $10,000 to around $5,000-$6,000. On top of that, everyone was expecting a spike from the block reward halving in May 2020. That never happened, probably because of the economic downturn that was resulted from the pandemic. Now the current spike in Bitcoin prices is partly due to the fact that the stock markets are doing good and the economy has rebounded.

To be honest we have recovered a lot faster than stock markets did, but that wasn't the point, we have recovered a lot more than markets did as well. From about 5k to 45k thats x9, from march of last year to today is nearly 1 year, how many things did 9x in the last 1 year?

I am not saying they didn't earn, of course they earned as well, all I am saying is they didn't earn this much, it went up super high.

About the halving, that was always a topic about how it would be priced in already and also would have a bigger impact 12-18 months later, that was the talk back in those days as well, we all believed that, and price moved from that said 5-6k range in march towards 10k in may because of the halving and that was the "priced in" part, the 12-18+ month part didn't happen because we are not there just yet but it also went up too much already so we could say there could be some affects of it right now.

[Yatsan]

Covid-19 pandemic have brought out lots of negative effects not just on the health sector because of the threat it gives on the lives of many people due to the virus that cost many lives ever since its existence. The pandemic have also affected different sectors including economic and financial sectors because of the implementing lock down as a safety measure to prevent the further spread of the deadly virus. Many have experience hard times most specially the poor people that is directly affected by the happening in the surrounding because lots of job opportunities have been turned down due to temporary to permanent closure of business establishments and cost cutting of many companies due to shortage of many essentials and budgets to carry out their workers. With that, many are also suffering from psychological and social depression because they have no work and cannot be able to go out. As for now, it is really hard to deal with the situation and we have different coping mechanisms to surpass all of the struggles we have been facing. Soon enough due to the existence of many vaccines, we can go back to normal somehow.

[Pierre 2]

Ever since pandemic started my working hours dropped a lot. It is about residence permits and this kind jobs are getting less and less important because of covid 19 as not many people wanna go anywhere outside of their country. Tourism is sort of dead.

Economically I am in guarenteed position, I can't be kicked out or asked to decrease payment, so there are no financial problems.

Many people I observe around are either in deep stress or they are unemployed and feel so bad. Suicides are far common in my society.

Old people have psychological issues as well. Many youngsters force them to stay at home for their own safety, but that hurts their feelings.

Lockdown is stopping covid19, that's right but its affecting billions negatively.

[TheNineClub]

What I have observed in my country is that there are some branches of the economy that are affected by the lockdowns and others that are not, so it's hard to paint everything with one brush. Also, it would be hard to blame everything on just lockdowns, as they merely exposed the deeply rooted issues of our economic system. For instance, my country has a lot of dependency on tourism, and that's fine, while it's going. But when things get a bit unpredictable, like they did this year and the past year, we see that putting your eggs in just one basket might not be the smartest option. And I am by no means putting the blame on people that chose to work in fields that are affected by the pandemic, what I am saying is that the governing body should be prepared for this and not focus merely on the best-case scenario profit, but on the wellbeing of the workers when the times get rough.

On the bright side, as far as I can see, this economic crisis might be a bit less than predicted at the beginning of last year.

[Ultegra134]

Haven't replied here for a while but wanted to catch-up!
The response measures taken within my region have now eased, things are a little better now. Retail shops have re-opened and curfew has been changed from 6 p.m to 9 p.m.

Nationwide, things have taken a turn for the worse, surpassing 2.000 cases yesterday, and this number is expected to rise in the very near future.

[jaysabi]

The impact of Covid-19 is felt in various parts of the world, besides that it also affects the economy of every country, both developed and developing countries. However, in the world of good trading, especially Cripto, this certainly does not have a significant effect, because during the lockdown period the community tries to keep producing by trading or investing in stocks.

You may want to know that Covid-19 had rather a positive effect on one hand in cryptocurrency. Aside the lost of jobs and people having to stay at home, the pandemic created a surge in demand for cryptocurrency, given the money from the air stimulus packages most countries had to embark upon was open doors for inflation. Fiat money was losing it's value here and there and people had to turn to cryptocurrency for safe haven.

I can't agree with this statement. In March 2020, when the pandemic started spreading to countries outside China, there was a sharp drop in Bitcoin prices. The exchange rates plummeted from $10,000 to around $5,000-$6,000. On top of that, everyone was expecting a spike from the block reward halving in May 2020. That never happened, probably because of the economic downturn that was resulted from the pandemic. Now the current spike in Bitcoin prices is partly due to the fact that the stock markets are doing good and the economy has rebounded.

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset. In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

[Ultegra134]

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset. In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

Not really sure how the conversation about Covid-19 was driven to Bitcoin and investments, however, I agree that Bitcoin or any Cryptocurrency cannot be considered a safe asset. Crypto isn't a panacea, and not many people have the right knowledge about how they work. Most, are not familiar with the risks they have, it doesn't work like the stock market.

[tippytoes]

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset. In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

Not really sure how the conversation about Covid-19 was driven to Bitcoin and investments, however, I agree that Bitcoin or any Cryptocurrency cannot be considered a safe asset. Crypto isn't a panacea, and not many people have the right knowledge about how they work. Most, are not familiar with the risks they have, it doesn't work like the stock market.

This pandemic has driven some noncrypto users to look at crypto because for one, the halving that happened last year and a lot were stuck in their homes and they were able to follow the news. And then, owed to this virus, people are looking for alternative payments, and crypto is a very good candidate on this case. And next is the buying of financial institutions of large amount of bitcoins like the MicroStrategy and TESLA, and even the announcement of PayPal to include crypto in their payment system boosted the btc market.
So yes, this covid, lockdown, has good repercussions in the crypto industry. Somehow, people are brought into this market because of the covid crisis.

[Fatunad]

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset. In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

Not really sure how the conversation about Covid-19 was driven to Bitcoin and investments, however, I agree that Bitcoin or any Cryptocurrency cannot be considered a safe asset. Crypto isn't a panacea, and not many people have the right knowledge about how they work. Most, are not familiar with the risks they have, it doesn't work like the stock market.

This pandemic has driven some noncrypto users to look at crypto because for one, the halving that happened last year and a lot were stuck in their homes and they were able to follow the news. And then, owed to this virus, people are looking for alternative payments, and crypto is a very good candidate on this case. And next is the buying of financial institutions of large amount of bitcoins like the MicroStrategy and TESLA, and even the announcement of PayPal to include crypto in their payment system boosted the btc market.
So yes, this covid, lockdown, has good repercussions in the crypto industry. Somehow, people are brought into this market because of the covid crisis.

Or simply seeing this as an another method for them to make profits or money but to think up that it isnt really created that way but somewhat it can really give out that kind of opportunity.
This pandemic did really open out some eyes to go into other opportunities that they can see on where they can sustain themselves.Lots of have been changed not only
on the way of living but also into those typical days where normal living we've been doing.

Its good that we can still have an option like this where it did able to help somehow for those who had able to know it well.

[Sithara007]

This pandemic has driven some noncrypto users to look at crypto because for one, the halving that happened last year and a lot were stuck in their homes and they were able to follow the news. And then, owed to this virus, people are looking for alternative payments, and crypto is a very good candidate on this case. And next is the buying of financial institutions of large amount of bitcoins like the MicroStrategy and TESLA, and even the announcement of PayPal to include crypto in their payment system boosted the btc market.
So yes, this covid, lockdown, has good repercussions in the crypto industry. Somehow, people are brought into this market because of the covid crisis.

People invested in cryptocurrency not because they were stuck at their homes, but as a result of the hype generated by PayPal and Tesla adoption. On top of that, the $1.9 trillion stimulus measure announced by Joe Biden and the ballooning federal debt also turned the situation advantageous for Bitcoin. It was not the pandemic, but the stimulus and big spending measures that followed it that resulted in rising popularity of BTC.

[Rehan Zakir]

COVID-19 has spread all over the world. Many lives have been lost because of this. Many peoples have lost their jobs because of this virus.
I am belonging from Pakistan. Peoples are effected with the corona virus. And with so many cases coming up every day, the government has put the lockdown.
But now situation is in control.

[Vishnu.Reang]

COVID-19 has spread all over the world. Many lives have been lost because of this. Many peoples have lost their jobs because of this virus.
I am belonging from Pakistan. Peoples are effected with the corona virus. And with so many cases coming up every day, the government has put the lockdown.
But now situation is in control.

Here in India also, the number of cases are going up. I am not sure whether there will be any lockdown or not. We are not having any lockdowns for almost 5-6 months now, and if it is introduced again, then the local businesses will be negatively impacted. But for the last two weeks or so, the number of new infections are rising. And there are rumors that some of the more resistant strains have been reported from India.

[Snappycoco]

COVID-19 has spread all over the world. Many lives have been lost because of this. Many peoples have lost their jobs because of this virus.
I am belonging from Pakistan. Peoples are effected with the corona virus. And with so many cases coming up every day, the government has put the lockdown.
But now situation is in control.

Here in India also, the number of cases are going up. I am not sure whether there will be any lockdown or not. We are not having any lockdowns for almost 5-6 months now, and if it is introduced again, then the local businesses will be negatively impacted. But for the last two weeks or so, the number of new infections are rising. And there are rumors that some of the more resistant strains have been reported from India.

Same here in the Philippines specially that we have no vaccines yet unlike you there at India. We are currently at top in South east asia when in comes to total infected persons.

[Ultegra134]

Yeah, on a macro scale this just isn't true. Bitcoin was decimated just like the stock market in March 2020. It's because despite what the majority on this board believes, it is not a safe haven during times of economic upheaval and the capital flight from stocks and crypto proved this when the pandemic shutdowns were starting.

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset. In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

Not really sure how the conversation about Covid-19 was driven to Bitcoin and investments, however, I agree that Bitcoin or any Cryptocurrency cannot be considered a safe asset. Crypto isn't a panacea, and not many people have the right knowledge about how they work. Most, are not familiar with the risks they have, it doesn't work like the stock market.

This pandemic has driven some noncrypto users to look at crypto because for one, the halving that happened last year and a lot were stuck in their homes and they were able to follow the news. And then, owed to this virus, people are looking for alternative payments, and crypto is a very good candidate on this case. And next is the buying of financial institutions of large amount of bitcoins like the MicroStrategy and TESLA, and even the announcement of PayPal to include crypto in their payment system boosted the btc market.
So yes, this covid, lockdown, has good repercussions in the crypto industry. Somehow, people are brought into this market because of the covid crisis.

Oh yes, you are right indeed, totally forgot about that. I guess the loss of income combined with the extra time people have due to the pandemic opened new horizons and opportunities. The extra time and desire of another income lead people into investing in Cryptocurrency in hopes of a better life during this dire situation. I also believe that a large sum of crypto was bought during that time, boosting the market significantly.

[Gyfts]

Hello from Ukraine !
About our situation:
The first "long" quarantine we had from 2020/03/12 to 2020/05/22. It was a total quarantine - only grocery stores, pharmacies, and utilities were partially working. Offices were closed, any shopping / entertainment establishments were closed, even public transport stopped working (there was an organized work of duty routes that ensure the movement of employees of medical institutions, police, utilities). Perhaps the most difficult period. The service business (restaurants, cinemas, cafes / pubs, travel companies, concert agencies, marketing agencies, ....) suffered the most.
The last "lockdown" is from 2021/01/08 to 2021/01/24.
Now the country is in the "orange zone", which means that there is no strict quarantine, but there are many restrictive measures.
Outcomes:
- First lockdown. The hardest part is the psychological factor. Complete isolation, "an extinct city", empty streets, usual services do not work ... A hard impression.
- After that, all the "short" restrictions no longer produced such a depressing impression, they got used to or adapted to the inconvenience.
- Of course, a huge problem is small business, private business, and almost all service companies.
- And most importantly, there is no real solution to the problem yet. Vaccination has just begun, there are no effective treatment protocols and most likely there will not be, a mutation of the virus, a "short" acquired immunity - all this makes you think, and clearly does not lead to positive thoughts ...
But there is also a positive one For example, having so much "free" time - I learned 2 new programming languages ​​for myself, 1 framework, deepened my knowledge in BI, spent time on sports every day - improved my physical shape, and much more on the little things.

This describes the general perspective of anyone that is in a first world country, truly.

I read a story about the US and suicide rates amongst children, it's a bit old but relevant - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

What seems to be overlooked often are the children. The US has had its schools closed down for nearly a year, and is the only country in the world to do so. European schools have generally been opened, with some short term closures.

And what is the effect? Social isolation, long or short term depression, and worst all, potential suicides. We do have the solution. The vaccines are there. Schools should be opened, businesses should be opened.

[Ultegra134]

Hello from Ukraine !
About our situation:
The first "long" quarantine we had from 2020/03/12 to 2020/05/22. It was a total quarantine - only grocery stores, pharmacies, and utilities were partially working. Offices were closed, any shopping / entertainment establishments were closed, even public transport stopped working (there was an organized work of duty routes that ensure the movement of employees of medical institutions, police, utilities). Perhaps the most difficult period. The service business (restaurants, cinemas, cafes / pubs, travel companies, concert agencies, marketing agencies, ....) suffered the most.
The last "lockdown" is from 2021/01/08 to 2021/01/24.
Now the country is in the "orange zone", which means that there is no strict quarantine, but there are many restrictive measures.
Outcomes:
- First lockdown. The hardest part is the psychological factor. Complete isolation, "an extinct city", empty streets, usual services do not work ... A hard impression.
- After that, all the "short" restrictions no longer produced such a depressing impression, they got used to or adapted to the inconvenience.
- Of course, a huge problem is small business, private business, and almost all service companies.
- And most importantly, there is no real solution to the problem yet. Vaccination has just begun, there are no effective treatment protocols and most likely there will not be, a mutation of the virus, a "short" acquired immunity - all this makes you think, and clearly does not lead to positive thoughts ...
But there is also a positive one For example, having so much "free" time - I learned 2 new programming languages ​​for myself, 1 framework, deepened my knowledge in BI, spent time on sports every day - improved my physical shape, and much more on the little things.

This describes the general perspective of anyone that is in a first world country, truly.

I read a story about the US and suicide rates amongst children, it's a bit old but relevant - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/student-suicides-nevada-coronavirus.html

What seems to be overlooked often are the children. The US has had its schools closed down for nearly a year, and is the only country in the world to do so. European schools have generally been opened, with some short term closures.

And what is the effect? Social isolation, long or short term depression, and worst all, potential suicides. We do have the solution. The vaccines are there. Schools should be opened, businesses should be opened.

Interesting find, it's definitely an alarming issue, especially in younger children. They do not have the capability to understand the current situation with the pandemic, nor why exactly they need to wear a mask or what exactly is happening. They need to be out to socialize, play with their friends and so on. It's crucial in the early stages of a child's life, starting from the first years in school.

[MUHAMMAD NUR AMANAH]

The pandemic in my country is profoundly affected by the economic lifestyle of the economy, and even everything has changed since the corona virus struck from its essential everyday material, increasing the price of many unemployment, where schools are shut down no matter where family economies enter, and in what total lockdown. So the country will be decimated. I think lockdown is not a solution, but I don't know how to deal with this pandemic either. I also want this to end as soon as possible

[pinggoki]

The pandemic in my country is profoundly affected by the economic lifestyle of the economy, and even everything has changed since the corona virus struck from its essential everyday material, increasing the price of many unemployment, where schools are shut down no matter where family economies enter, and in what total lockdown. So the country will be decimated. I think lockdown is not a solution, but I don't know how to deal with this pandemic either. I also want this to end as soon as possible

Actually almost all of the countries are affected by this lockdown in which it really brought as a disaster in which many big establishments has been closed due to bankruptcy and many people lose job because their company closed. If you are talking that lockdown is not a solution about this pandemic then what would be the proper solution that our government must do? I think this is the proper way in which because of the lockdown we lessened the number of covid patients and many people stock on their houses in order to prevent the spreading of the virus.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Actually almost all of the countries are affected by this lockdown in which it really brought as a disaster in which many big establishments has been closed due to bankruptcy and many people lose job because their company closed. If you are talking that lockdown is not a solution about this pandemic then what would be the proper solution that our government must do? I think this is the proper way in which because of the lockdown we lessened the number of covid patients and many people stock on their houses in order to prevent the spreading of the virus.

When the lockdowns were imposed, there were two main aims. The first one was to obviously lessen the number of infections, and thereby the number of deaths. The second aim was was to slow down the spread in the initial phase, so that the medical sector get adequate time to come up with a proper plan. The first aim didn't worked that well, as tens of millions got infected in the end. But the second aim was achieved in most of the countries.

[Sithara007]

Same here in the Philippines specially that we have no vaccines yet unlike you there at India. We are currently at top in South east asia when in comes to total infected persons.

LOL.. so far India has completely vaccinated just 0.2% of the population. It will take many years to vaccinate all the 1.4 billion people here. Also, the vaccines used in India are having lower efficacy levels (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca with 62% efficacy, and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech with 81% efficacy). At least for the immediate future, the fight against COVID 19 needs to be done without assuming much impact from the vaccination program.

[Wind_FURY]

Same here in the Philippines specially that we have no vaccines yet unlike you there at India. We are currently at top in South east asia when in comes to total infected persons.

LOL.. so far India has completely vaccinated just 0.2% of the population. It will take many years to vaccinate all the 1.4 billion people here. Also, the vaccines used in India are having lower efficacy levels (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca with 62% efficacy, and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech with 81% efficacy). At least for the immediate future, the fight against COVID 19 needs to be done without assuming much impact from the vaccination program.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but does COVID-19 truly need a vaccine? I believe the rate of surviving the virus is more than 95%. I believe developing more effective therapeutic medicines for the illness would be more welcome than the vaccines.

Actually almost all of the countries are affected by this lockdown in which it really brought as a disaster in which many big establishments has been closed due to bankruptcy and many people lose job because their company closed. If you are talking that lockdown is not a solution about this pandemic then what would be the proper solution that our government must do? I think this is the proper way in which because of the lockdown we lessened the number of covid patients and many people stock on their houses in order to prevent the spreading of the virus.

When the lockdowns were imposed, there were two main aims. The first one was to obviously lessen the number of infections, and thereby the number of deaths. The second aim was was to slow down the spread in the initial phase, so that the medical sector get adequate time to come up with a proper plan. The first aim didn't worked that well, as tens of millions got infected in the end. But the second aim was achieved in most of the countries.

BUT it also slowed down the economy. If your government prrrinted fiat to stimulate the economy, then expect high inflation after the economy is opened up again.

[Ultegra134]

Same here in the Philippines specially that we have no vaccines yet unlike you there at India. We are currently at top in South east asia when in comes to total infected persons.

LOL.. so far India has completely vaccinated just 0.2% of the population. It will take many years to vaccinate all the 1.4 billion people here. Also, the vaccines used in India are having lower efficacy levels (Covishield from Oxford/AstraZeneca with 62% efficacy, and Covaxin from Bharat Biotech with 81% efficacy). At least for the immediate future, the fight against COVID 19 needs to be done without assuming much impact from the vaccination program.

I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but does COVID-19 truly need a vaccine? I believe the rate of surviving the virus is more than 95%. I believe developing more effective therapeutic medicines for the illness would be more welcome than the vaccines.

Actually almost all of the countries are affected by this lockdown in which it really brought as a disaster in which many big establishments has been closed due to bankruptcy and many people lose job because their company closed. If you are talking that lockdown is not a solution about this pandemic then what would be the proper solution that our government must do? I think this is the proper way in which because of the lockdown we lessened the number of covid patients and many people stock on their houses in order to prevent the spreading of the virus.

When the lockdowns were imposed, there were two main aims. The first one was to obviously lessen the number of infections, and thereby the number of deaths. The second aim was was to slow down the spread in the initial phase, so that the medical sector get adequate time to come up with a proper plan. The first aim didn't worked that well, as tens of millions got infected in the end. But the second aim was achieved in most of the countries.

BUT it also slowed down the economy. If your government prrrinted fiat to stimulate the economy, then expect high inflation after the economy is opened up again.

Even if the mortality is actually 5%, that's 50 people in terms of a 1000 people, which is still a lot. And that mortality rate, of 5% as you claim, is with lockdown and all the response measures that have been taken for Covid-19.

Supposing all countries get rid of any measures as we speak, the number of cases and deaths will rise significantly. The sole purpose of the vaccine is to slow down the transmission of the virus, to enable us to return to some kind of normalcy.

[judeafante]

Here in our region people are relaxing and because of this the number of infected has increased, people are now comfortable moving around and the economy is now open because our government cannot keep up giving dole out to its citizen, this happens because the vaccines are now coming arriving and the government is now scheduling its people for vaccination.

[Sithara007]

Here in India, the cases seems to be rising once again. 2-3 weeks ago, the daily number of new cases had fallen to four-digits. But now it is back to the 15,000-20,000 range. The emergence of the new strains seems to be behind this surge. The neighboring countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh are also reporting an increase in new infections. The situation is not as bad as in the US or the EU, but government may reimpose some of the restrictions.

[jaysabi]

I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but does COVID-19 truly need a vaccine? I believe the rate of surviving the virus is more than 95%. I believe developing more effective therapeutic medicines for the illness would be more welcome than the vaccines.

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

[bryant.coleman]

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

That is the problem when people politicize everything. In most of the countries, the political parties used the pandemic to shore up support (possibly at the cost of thousands of lives). Take the case of the United States. The two main political parties took diametrically opposite approaches towards restrictions. The republicans refused to wear masks and conform to social distancing, while the Democrats went too far by shutting down businesses. During this diffiuclt time, unity in administration was needed. But that never happened.

[carlisle1]

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

That is the problem when people politicize everything. In most of the countries, the political parties used the pandemic to shore up support (possibly at the cost of thousands of lives). Take the case of the United States. The two main political parties took diametrically opposite approaches towards restrictions. The republicans refused to wear masks and conform to social distancing, while the Democrats went too far by shutting down businesses. During this difficult time, unity in administration was needed. But that never happened.

As even with this hardship political leaders continue to politicize the situations, instead of embracing each other and find suitable solutions.

They are very busy finding faults from different sides, if only they'll able to lift and tap each others back, it should be a win win for the people that they are serving.

Unity in leadership is very difficult as it was proven in most of the places around the world.

[dimonstration]

No lockdown, just a few restrictions with respect to burials and wedding ceremonies. The truth is that we live here as if nothing has happened. We have taken delivery of some vaccines but even before that, normal life activities were going on. It was either you stay at home and perish from hunger or risk contracting Covid19 whiles trying to find some consumables.

I wonder whats your country, most of the countries experience lockdaown, it's actually 1 year ago when lockdown happened in my country and there are still now record of cases that experience having covid but still needs to bring back the economy in life despite the increasing number of affected. What we just do now is strengthen our health and be safe whenever we go outside.

[Sithara007]

No lockdown, just a few restrictions with respect to burials and wedding ceremonies. The truth is that we live here as if nothing has happened. We have taken delivery of some vaccines but even before that, normal life activities were going on. It was either you stay at home and perish from hunger or risk contracting Covid19 whiles trying to find some consumables.

I wonder whats your country, most of the countries experience lockdaown, it's actually 1 year ago when lockdown happened in my country and there are still now record of cases that experience having covid but still needs to bring back the economy in life despite the increasing number of affected. What we just do now is strengthen our health and be safe whenever we go outside.

Here in India, the restrictions were lifted many months back and the economy seems to be back on track. People are now less bothered about the pandemic. There are multiple reasons for this. First of all, the fatality rate in India has been much lower than the neighboring nations. And at the same time, the vaccination program has been going on nicely and on average more than a million people are getting their doses per day.

[South Park]

Here in our region people are relaxing and because of this the number of infected has increased, people are now comfortable moving around and the economy is now open because our government cannot keep up giving dole out to its citizen, this happens because the vaccines are now coming arriving and the government is now scheduling its people for vaccination.

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

[bryant.coleman]

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

I don't think that the relaxed attitude is due to the availability of vaccines. When the pandemic first started spreading, there was a lot of FUD floating around. But then, the people realized that the fatality rate was extremely low (~0.2%, if we take the asymptomatic cases as well). Also, for young people without comorbidities, the chances of getting hospitalized with COVID 19 is almost zero. And as far as I can see, the elderly and those with comorbidities are still taking precautions. It is the youth who are not adhering to social distancing protocols.

[bitzizzix]

It has been 1 year that the corona virus has entered my country and until now it has not been resolved, from large-scale restrictions in certain locations and other methods that have been implemented by the government are still not resolved.
and all that makes everyone feel bored of living life with limits and rules that are ultimately ignored and make things worse because everyone feels like returning to normal life, and wants to continue to earn income in any way without thinking about Covid-19 by keeping your distance, and Following health protocol, on the other hand everyone wants to continue to exercise their rights in life and on the other hand the government is also working hard to fight Covid-19.
and now vaccines have begun to be distributed by giving priority to hospital workers, state officials and so on, until finally reaching the small community, and hopefully it can be resolved as soon as possible and can live freely and return to normal.

[skarais]

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and now vaccines have begun to be distributed by giving priority to hospital workers, state officials and so on, until finally reaching the small community, and hopefully it can be resolved as soon as possible and can live freely and return to normal.

It is a dream in which it may become increasingly difficult for anyone to return to a normal life without fear of covid infection. I only hope that God always protect me from this virus accompanied by independent prevention effort.

As long as the lockdown is no longer in effect, economic activities will return to life and help people meet their need. We all just need to take care of our own health and fitness to prevent infection. However, nowadays the incidence of infection is decreasing and more vaccination can help reduce the incidence.

[jostorres]

At least under the current circumstances, Bitcoin can't be considered as a safe haven asset.

Now that times are better, yes it can be said but last year when times were dire and things were looking bleak even Bitcoin took a hit and the prices went down quite significantly.

In part due to its volatility and unclear legal status in many of the countries, it remains a high risk investment. So when the economy was going up, Bitcoin was also going up. On the other hand, when the market crashed in March 2020, Bitcoin went down, but gold prices rocketed upwards.

I didn't follow gold prices so unsure if that's true but I don't think we should be discussing Bitcoins in a thread where we have gathered to discuss the problems and trauma faced by all of us during the tough times, some of us are even facing them now.

Someone who been fond of doing parties without any special occasion, I was feeling like living under a rock and still am feeling like it but have managed to ultimately cope with it. I do realize I was spending a lot of money so that's a minor positive though.

[Sithara007]

It is a dream in which it may become increasingly difficult for anyone to return to a normal life without fear of covid infection. I only hope that God always protect me from this virus accompanied by independent prevention effort.

As long as the lockdown is no longer in effect, economic activities will return to life and help people meet their need. We all just need to take care of our own health and fitness to prevent infection. However, nowadays the incidence of infection is decreasing and more vaccination can help reduce the incidence.

Well... I don't think that god can protect you from COVID 19 infection. Only vaccination is capable of doing that. Take adequate security precautions such as wearing of masks and maintaining social distancing, and you should be fine. Anyway, I have noticed an encouragig decline in the rate of onfections ever since the vaccination program started. Hopefully we'll be free of this pandemic by the end of this year.

[SquallLeonhart]

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

[bryant.coleman]

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

Apart from a few irresponsible people hardly anyone is going out if it is not essential. I am working in the insurance sector and my company has allowed us to work from home. Once in two months or so, I go to restaurants to dine with my family or my friends. Apart from that, the outdoor activity is near zero. I feel bad about the restaurant and shop owners who are losing businesses. But at least here in my place, most of the restaurant owners are now concentrating on online delivery of food. And I heard that their business is doing really good.

[Hamphser]

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

Apart from a few irresponsible people hardly anyone is going out if it is not essential. I am working in the insurance sector and my company has allowed us to work from home. Once in two months or so, I go to restaurants to dine with my family or my friends. Apart from that, the outdoor activity is near zero. I feel bad about the restaurant and shop owners who are losing businesses. But at least here in my place, most of the restaurant owners are now concentrating on online delivery of food. And I heard that their business is doing really good.

Closing up physical businesses or simply not allowing crowd isnt really the end of the world.They could always set out other ways or methods for them to continue on giving out service without
violating those health protocols which is now more focusing on online delivery or services out there.

Thats really a good initiative because if you do just let yourself agree with those rules without minding any alternative solution then you would really be ending up on a hard situation.

You should be wise and dont make your effort in the past will go to waste just because of this pandemic.As long you can see some possibility or chances of making profit
then you should head on.

[Sithara007]

There is already covid vaccine now in our country and already start vaccinating the frontliners and other people in the community. But despite of the vaccine I am still have fear to go out because covid patients still increasing now in our country. It's really difficult not  be able to go anywhere that you want because of this pandemic. When will it end?

Have you received 2 doses of the vaccine? Even if you have received 2 doses of the vaccine, you will acquire full immunity only after 4 weeks from the administration of the second dose. And also, you need to remember that the vaccines are having an efficacy of 50% to 95% depending on the manufacturer. So even if you are being administered the best vaccine available, there is still a chance of getting infected with COVID 19. If you want to go out and roam around despite all this, then it is your choice. But I would prefer staying at home for another 6 months at least, until the effects of vaccination are visible.

[Ultegra134]

There is already covid vaccine now in our country and already start vaccinating the frontliners and other people in the community. But despite of the vaccine I am still have fear to go out because covid patients still increasing now in our country. It's really difficult not  be able to go anywhere that you want because of this pandemic. When will it end?

Have you received 2 doses of the vaccine? Even if you have received 2 doses of the vaccine, you will acquire full immunity only after 4 weeks from the administration of the second dose. And also, you need to remember that the vaccines are having an efficacy of 50% to 95% depending on the manufacturer. So even if you are being administered the best vaccine available, there is still a chance of getting infected with COVID 19. If you want to go out and roam around despite all this, then it is your choice. But I would prefer staying at home for another 6 months at least, until the effects of vaccination are visible.

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

[Vishnu.Reang]

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

Everyone is getting overconfident now as the vaccination is in progress. But new lethal strains are being discovered around the world and some of them may turn out to be resistant to the vaccines. For example, the new strain first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus is spreading through Brazil and most of the hospitals are now getting overwhelmed with influx of patients. A few weeks ago, the daily death toll was around 500-600 in Brazil. This has now increased to ~2,000.

[darewaller]

Here in India, the restrictions were lifted many months back and the economy seems to be back on track. People are now less bothered about the pandemic. There are multiple reasons for this. First of all, the fatality rate in India has been much lower than the neighboring nations. And at the same time, the vaccination program has been going on nicely and on average more than a million people are getting their doses per day.

The real question is whether people actually need vaccination because the virus is now almost over barring a few countries where still the virus spread is significant and concerning. I don't understand why they are vaccinating people though because it's just a wastage of money to vaccinate for the virus which is now near its end and vaccines have shown some poor side effects so why even risk injecting the vaccine when you can take minor precautions and within a few months things will be back to normal.

I don't think there was a specific problem I faced during the lockdowns apart from being more conservative and finding ways to kill time and sometimes find ways to earn some money. Even started trading during these lockdowns more seriously and I am among those few people who were able to utilize the time in the best possible ways, but needless to say, the pandemic was fatal.

[Ultegra134]

As you've already mentioned, vaccines need a few weeks (around 20 days) to build immunity, all of them not the Covid one in particular. Thus, even if you get vaccinated, you'll still have to adhere with the safety rules, wear a mask properly, avoid overcrowding, use hand sanitizer and so on. In summary, you still need to be careful, especially the next few days you receive the vaccine in order to be safe.

Everyone is getting overconfident now as the vaccination is in progress. But new lethal strains are being discovered around the world and some of them may turn out to be resistant to the vaccines. For example, the new strain first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus is spreading through Brazil and most of the hospitals are now getting overwhelmed with influx of patients. A few weeks ago, the daily death toll was around 500-600 in Brazil. This has now increased to ~2,000.

There are hundreds of new strains, however as you've already mentioned some strains might not be covered from the current vaccines which is frustrating to say the least. As far as I know, the British strain is covered, but research is being conducted about the African one, that appears more contagious and resilient.

[mezzaluna]

Hello! I am from the Philippines and the effects of the pandemic in our country has been very detrimental. It did not only affect our economy as an Third-world country (based from my perspective on how things are running) but it really affected most people who did not have enough savings to face a pending lock down for a long time. The lock down in our country officially started on March 10, 2020 and it already passed its anniversary but our country is still waiting from the government if there would be another need for a nation wide or per region lock down.

I really cannot blame it on the people because all they want and need is to get back to their normal lives in which they could have the necessary money to buy their daily necessities. I also believed that our country lacked the necessary preparations to come face to face with the pandemic because it feels like everything is moving so slow within our country. I believed that our country is ranked last (or near last) within Asian countries that have a good plan with fighting this virus. Its juts sad to see that our government still continue to say that we have successfully mitigated the virus but looking at the number of active cases, nobody can even say if its even called "success"

[MUHAMMAD NUR AMANAH]

In my country a curfew for the merchants alone has become what all the commotion in the lock down will surely result in a great commotion as the economic wheel will stop people 'people will rebel and not address the pandemic problem will only make matters worse because we have to continue living this life The government to lock down does not happen if anything happens I assure you that the country that does lock down is bound to get more chaotic especially in the economy and will not close the doors to other areas I hope it will never happen

[Twentyonepaylots]

In the Philippines, aside from the known consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic and the lockdown that ensued after such as economic losses, psychological problems, a surprising problem also arose which is the sudden spike in the percentage of teenage pregnancy. This could further disrupt the otherwise recovering economy of the said country. This among the possible problems the education, and the health sector of the country, as well as the ever-increasing gap between the rich and the poor in the Philippines.

In my country a curfew for the merchants alone has become what all the commotion in the lockdown will surely result in a great commotion as the economic wheel will stop people 'people will rebel and not address the pandemic problem will only make matters worse because we have to continue living this life The government to lockdown does not happen if anything happens I assure you that the country that does lockdown is bound to get more chaotic especially in the economy and will not close the doors to other areas I hope it will never happen

It's more of a problem with the people and the government really. On one side, stricter lockdowns must be imposed by the government to ensure that the cases are kept in check. on the other, the citizens are obliged to be responsible for following lockdown and contingency protocols the country in question imposed. Should one side of the scale be tipped over, problems will ensue.

[bryant.coleman]

The real question is whether people actually need vaccination because the virus is now almost over barring a few countries where still the virus spread is significant and concerning. I don't understand why they are vaccinating people though because it's just a wastage of money to vaccinate for the virus which is now near its end and vaccines have shown some poor side effects so why even risk injecting the vaccine when you can take minor precautions and within a few months things will be back to normal.

LOL.. do you really think that vaccinating people is just wasting money? I don't think so. The pandemic is not contained in any of the nations (perhaps with the exception of isolated island nations such as New Zealand). So far 2.64 million have died from COVID 19 (the actual death toll may be much higher) and more than 100 million have got infected. So what do you prefer?  A few million more deaths, or spending $35 billion to vaccinate everyone in this world? The United States spent $2 trillion for invading Iraq. Compared to that $35 billion looks minuscule.

[South Park]

This is happening probably everywhere, where I live I am seeing the same pattern, people are relaxing themselves thinking the vaccines are coming so they do not have to be as careful as before, which does not make a lot of sense if you ask me, as we should take care of ourselves because we do not know if we could get sick before we get the vaccine, the good thing is that the number of cases is still going down which leads me to believe that a great deal of those that could develop severe symptoms already got infected while the rest that are getting the virus now have mild symptoms at worse.

I still do not go out, it has been about 5 months since last time I got out, I did went and see my parents but that's it, aside from that I am not going out, thankfully my job allows me to work at home that is why I was capable of being at home, but I do not get people who wants to get out.

Look, there is a logic behind people who want to open up their shops, sure they will want that and lockdowns and so forth preventing some business not to open up means bankruptcy for them, so I do get the idea, maybe we should allow everyone to open up their business and work, that is understandable and that should be done, however what about other people who go out to those cafes and so forth? Why are they doing this?

What could be the reason anyone would go to a place and sit down and have a dinner there? We are in a deadly virus right now and people are still going into the problem itself.

I am doing the same, it is probably going to take a while until it is my turn to get vaccinated so I do not want to contract the virus before it, however I believe that the people that do that are simply tired of being on their homes all the time, some people are simply not prepared to be socially isolated and want to return to some sense of normality, it seems they have not realized that things are never going to be completely normal again since now the virus is evolving and mutating and it is possible the current vaccines are ineffective against it forcing us to repeat this cycle all over again.

[DrBeer]

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!
I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

[justdimin]

The response measures taken within my region have now eased, things are a little better now. Retail shops have re-opened and curfew has been changed from 6 p.m to 9 p.m.

That's good to hear especially after I read the OP and was feeling really bad about you. Different countries have different lockdowns and restrictions applied and hopefully, things are good in Greece again very soon. In my country there isn't much of a threat or anything like that now but still, there are certain restrictions.

Nationwide, things have taken a turn for the worse, surpassing 2.000 cases yesterday, and this number is expected to rise in the very near future.

Yes, there were some news about new traces but thankfully it looks all under control in most countries including mine, fingers crossed for Greece

The biggest repercussion I feel I faced was last year mid when I was unable to visit my family despite my father being ill but because of lockdown and no travel allowed between some cities, I was forced to just talk with them on call and things eventually settled down but it was a tough and depressing time for me.

[nightxglow]

Well my country never experienced lock down, and the case is just getting higher and higher each time. It's like the worst scenario already, and many people are losing their optimism that this pandemic will end, and they're not even sure they will be able to survive with this kind of financial condition. I don't blame them though, the condition is really bad, many people are losing their jobs, it's hard to earn money, and we're not sure when we'll be getting better, even with the vaccine.
tbh, i don't know how to cope up with this kind of situation, i think we're just struggling to be alive, making money even if then the virus infection might not be able to stop thoroughly. But waiting for it to died down will just kill the poor people. I too actually losing faith that this economic condition of my country will get better. At least not in the next years.

[carlfebz2]

Well my country never experienced lock down, and the case is just getting higher and higher each time. It's like the worst scenario already, and many people are losing their optimism that this pandemic will end, and they're not even sure they will be able to survive with this kind of financial condition. I don't blame them though, the condition is really bad, many people are losing their jobs, it's hard to earn money, and we're not sure when we'll be getting better, even with the vaccine.
tbh, i don't know how to cope up with this kind of situation, i think we're just struggling to be alive, making money even if then the virus infection might not be able to stop thoroughly. But waiting for it to died down will just kill the poor people. I too actually losing faith that this economic condition of my country will get better. At least not in the next years.

Dont lose hope because there would be always a rainbow after a rain, even if it seems too impossible for this situation to be resolved out but doesnt mean that we would really be experiencing like this forever.I have really seen some countries or places globally havent been set out some lock down which is really that risky on spreading the virus even way more faster compared
to those who had set out lock downs.

So far basing on the current condition on my country where everything was allow to do all things but still wearing off those mask and face shield which is already be considered as part of the new
normal of living.

Lots had been affected this is why we shouldnt really make ourselves to have that weakening emotion but rather pursue for us to live in spite of the situation.

[Ultegra134]

The real question is whether people actually need vaccination because the virus is now almost over barring a few countries where still the virus spread is significant and concerning. I don't understand why they are vaccinating people though because it's just a wastage of money to vaccinate for the virus which is now near its end and vaccines have shown some poor side effects so why even risk injecting the vaccine when you can take minor precautions and within a few months things will be back to normal.

LOL.. do you really think that vaccinating people is just wasting money? I don't think so. The pandemic is not contained in any of the nations (perhaps with the exception of isolated island nations such as New Zealand). So far 2.64 million have died from COVID 19 (the actual death toll may be much higher) and more than 100 million have got infected. So what do you prefer?  A few million more deaths, or spending $35 billion to vaccinate everyone in this world? The United States spent $2 trillion for invading Iraq. Compared to that $35 billion looks minuscule.

Vaccination is definitely not a waste of resources, unfortunately though, the vaccination rate is pretty low, with only a few exceptions. Israel's case is fascinating though, it has already vaccinated at least 40% of its population and has already noticed great results, fewer cases, deaths and less severe incidents.

It's also slowly reopening its economy, with the vaccination program running, it won't take long to achieve a decent percentage of immunity.

https://www.dw.com/en/israel-reopens-economy-after-covid-vaccine-success/a-56642980

[AndySt]

I believed that our country is ranked last (or near last) within Asian countries that have a good plan with fighting this virus. Its juts sad to see that our government still continue to say that we have successfully mitigated the virus but looking at the number of active cases, nobody can even say if its even called "success"

The data can tell the real picture, they cannot deceive people into thinking they are in total control, I'm glad that the vaccination is now rolling, but people are relaxing because the government is not very strict anymore compare to the first three months when they announced that there will be a quarantine, the people are thinking because the vaccine is already here, there will be herd immunity but this will take time and vaccine that is not coming still limited in supply.

I think that it is possible to speak about the real picture in such matters only approximately and never precisely, because the current level of development of medical technology and the health care system does not allow this. No matter how selfish and cynical it may sound, any government will try to talk about an optimistic vision of the situation, because these are the rules of the game and the government will focus more on successful examples than on unsuccessful ones in order to prove its worth to citizens.

[Sithara007]

Vaccination is definitely not a waste of resources, unfortunately though, the vaccination rate is pretty low, with only a few exceptions. Israel's case is fascinating though, it has already vaccinated at least 40% of its population and has already noticed great results, fewer cases, deaths and less severe incidents.

It's also slowly reopening its economy, with the vaccination program running, it won't take long to achieve a decent percentage of immunity.

https://www.dw.com/en/israel-reopens-economy-after-covid-vaccine-success/a-56642980

It is not just Israel which has managed to reduce the number of deaths by vaccinating the population. Among the larger countries, the United Kingdom is the best example. They have already vaccinated around one-third of the population, and this has seen the daily number of deaths falling by more than 99%. The United States has also vaccinated close to one-third of its population, and the deaths there have fallen (although not as much as the case in UK).

[Ultegra134]

Vaccination is definitely not a waste of resources, unfortunately though, the vaccination rate is pretty low, with only a few exceptions. Israel's case is fascinating though, it has already vaccinated at least 40% of its population and has already noticed great results, fewer cases, deaths and less severe incidents.

It's also slowly reopening its economy, with the vaccination program running, it won't take long to achieve a decent percentage of immunity.

https://www.dw.com/en/israel-reopens-economy-after-covid-vaccine-success/a-56642980

It is not just Israel which has managed to reduce the number of deaths by vaccinating the population. Among the larger countries, the United Kingdom is the best example. They have already vaccinated around one-third of the population, and this has seen the daily number of deaths falling by more than 99%. The United States has also vaccinated close to one-third of its population, and the deaths there have fallen (although not as much as the case in UK).

That is also correct, the United Kingdom had already signed contracts with Pfizer way before the European Union did. As a result, the first batches were distributed in the UK and conducted a large amount of vaccinations. If I've read correctly, the deal was made 3 months before the EU did, that's why we're now facing shortage issues.

[jaysabi]

Yes, vaccines are necessary. The danger that is the longer it circulates in the population, the more risk there is that it mutates and becomes more deadly. Therapeutic medicines aren't protection from a virus, this requires real science and effective vaccines. We've already lost far more people than was necessary because people haven't taken it seriously.

That is the problem when people politicize everything. In most of the countries, the political parties used the pandemic to shore up support (possibly at the cost of thousands of lives). Take the case of the United States. The two main political parties took diametrically opposite approaches towards restrictions. The republicans refused to wear masks and conform to social distancing, while the Democrats went too far by shutting down businesses. During this diffiuclt time, unity in administration was needed. But that never happened.

There was only one party in the United States that politicized the pandemic.  Republicans turned it into a "muh freedoms" rebellion and the talking heads on fox news actively agitated people into blinding anger over commonsense measures meant to curb the spread of the virus. Even the limited shutdowns were effective in controlling the spread of the virus, so we know that more effective shutdowns would have curtailed the spread even more.  The problem was republicans obstructed every attempt to have a cohesive shutdown and attempts to compensate people the required amount to have an effective shutdown, forcing people to resist the shutdowns out of economic necessity.  Unity was needed, but that's a one-way street where republicans are solely at fault.  There was nothing the democrats could unite with republicans over because the only way to stop the virus from spreading is for uninfected people to stay away from affected people and the republican position was actively to undermine that.

[fullhdpixel]

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!

Thank you, hope you are well and healthy physically and mentally.

I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

The problem with some Asian countries, with due respect, is the high population and hence the density is high which aids viruses like covid-19 even more because they are spread through contact and respiratory droplets from one another.

Then, there is politics which plays an important but sometimes ghastly impact on the decision making during such times. Most of the politicians are under educated and don't even know how to respond to such a big pandemic. Now that they have the vaccine, I read somewhere that there is fear among citizens regarding the legitimacy of the vaccine and some rumors about the side effects.

[Sithara007]

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!
I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

Being a resident of India, I can assure you that the vaccination program is proceeding very smoothly here. Right now, there are around 2 million vaccinations done per day, and the steps are being taken to increase this to a level of 5 million doses per day in the coming months. India is using two vaccines - CoviShield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and CoVaxin from Bharat Biotech, with efficacy of 62% and 81% respectively. The impact is not visible yet, as very few people have been administered with two doses of the vaccine.

[tygeade]

Ours moved to semi-open type of system, I mean it is not open 24/7 places are still closed at certain times and not by choice, it is the regulations and there is still lockdowns on nights and a bit of evenings as well, rest is open during work hours, so people do go to work and technically speaking they could go to places as well if they are not working, or if they can get permission from work, that is why I can say that we are semi-open even if not full back to what it was.

Eventually we will get there, eventually these vaccinations will be done constantly and we are going to see that people will not need masks, people will not fear being close, those days will come, both biologically we will be stronger against this, and also science will catch up and make it a smaller thing as well, I am sure that those days will come eventually, but until those days we need to be a bit more careful about going out, that is not economical or political, it is medical situation.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Every one is about to get royally screwed. There is a very dangerous mutation spreading in Brazil, which is much more contagious and deadly. It was first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus (called as mutation P1 by medics). This mutation infects people who were infected previously with COVID 19 and has proved to be deadly even for healthy people in their 30s and 40s. As of now, it is limited to Brazil, but it is just a matter of time before the mutated version spreads to the other countries.

[Ultegra134]

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!
I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

Being a resident of India, I can assure you that the vaccination program is proceeding very smoothly here. Right now, there are around 2 million vaccinations done per day, and the steps are being taken to increase this to a level of 5 million doses per day in the coming months. India is using two vaccines - CoviShield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and CoVaxin from Bharat Biotech, with efficacy of 62% and 81% respectively. The impact is not visible yet, as very few people have been administered with two doses of the vaccine.

Those are large numbers, it's promising to hear that vaccinations are conducted smoothly. Unfortunately, at least a 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to achieve immunity, thus, it will take time for the effects to show. I wouldn't worry though, if the vaccination program is running as you're mentioning, it will be achieved in the few next months.

Unlike here, they are progressing way too slowly, only a 7% of the population to be exact. If it continues like that, it would take years to vaccinate the majority of the population.

[Sithara007]

Those are large numbers, it's promising to hear that vaccinations are conducted smoothly. Unfortunately, at least a 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to achieve immunity, thus, it will take time for the effects to show. I wouldn't worry though, if the vaccination program is running as you're mentioning, it will be achieved in the few next months.

Unlike here, they are progressing way too slowly, only a 7% of the population to be exact. If it continues like that, it would take years to vaccinate the majority of the population.

India is having a population of 1400 million, and even if the vaccination rate is stepped up to 5 million doses per day, it will take another one and half years to vaccinate everyone (given that everyone needs two doses). So far around 30 million people have been vaccinated. In absolute numbers, it may sound huge. But in terms of percentage of the population, it is very minuscule at around 2%. And out of 2%, only a very few have received the second dose.

[Noctis Connor]

Those are large numbers, it's promising to hear that vaccinations are conducted smoothly. Unfortunately, at least a 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to achieve immunity, thus, it will take time for the effects to show. I wouldn't worry though, if the vaccination program is running as you're mentioning, it will be achieved in the few next months.

Unlike here, they are progressing way too slowly, only a 7% of the population to be exact. If it continues like that, it would take years to vaccinate the majority of the population.

India is having a population of 1400 million, and even if the vaccination rate is stepped up to 5 million doses per day, it will take another one and half years to vaccinate everyone (given that everyone needs two doses). So far around 30 million people have been vaccinated. In absolute numbers, it may sound huge. But in terms of percentage of the population, it is very minuscule at around 2%. And out of 2%, only a very few have received the second dose.

It's true however if those city mayors will cooperate to vaccinated those people easily let's say per  city has population of 100 thousand people and if they can easily vaccinated 10 thousand people aday it's not impossible to vaccinated all people in india because they're so much affected by this pandemic if those government want's really to control everything they had choice to do so make a good plan lock down the cities and start making a good plan on how they can easily vaccinated those millions of people like in my country.

[bryant.coleman]

It's true however if those city mayors will cooperate to vaccinated those people easily let's say per  city has population of 100 thousand people and if they can easily vaccinated 10 thousand people aday it's not impossible to vaccinated all people in india because they're so much affected by this pandemic if those government want's really to control everything they had choice to do so make a good plan lock down the cities and start making a good plan on how they can easily vaccinated those millions of people like in my country.

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

[Mauser]

It's true however if those city mayors will cooperate to vaccinated those people easily let's say per  city has population of 100 thousand people and if they can easily vaccinated 10 thousand people aday it's not impossible to vaccinated all people in india because they're so much affected by this pandemic if those government want's really to control everything they had choice to do so make a good plan lock down the cities and start making a good plan on how they can easily vaccinated those millions of people like in my country.

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

[Ultegra134]

Those are large numbers, it's promising to hear that vaccinations are conducted smoothly. Unfortunately, at least a 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to achieve immunity, thus, it will take time for the effects to show. I wouldn't worry though, if the vaccination program is running as you're mentioning, it will be achieved in the few next months.

Unlike here, they are progressing way too slowly, only a 7% of the population to be exact. If it continues like that, it would take years to vaccinate the majority of the population.

India is having a population of 1400 million, and even if the vaccination rate is stepped up to 5 million doses per day, it will take another one and half years to vaccinate everyone (given that everyone needs two doses). So far around 30 million people have been vaccinated. In absolute numbers, it may sound huge. But in terms of percentage of the population, it is very minuscule at around 2%. And out of 2%, only a very few have received the second dose.

I haven't looked that up to be honest, thus, judging by the analogy of the population and the vaccination process, it will indeed take a long time to get even half of the population vaccinated, in terms of percentages, we're actually looking at depressing results. Not to mention that by then, there might be a new dominant strain that will lower the effectiveness of vaccines.

[bryant.coleman]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

[Ultegra134]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

[Fatunad]

I guess vaccine availability will be an issue in India. If they want to step up the vaccination drive, then the vaccine manufacturers (Serum Institute in Pune and Bharat Biotech in Hyderabad) needs to make that many vaccine doses available. As of now, they are providing around 1-2 million doses per day and I don't know whether it will be feasible to step up the production without having an impact on the quality of the vaccine.

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

Right now, there is not a single country where there is an oversupply of vaccine. Every country, including the United States is facing a shortage of enough vaccine doses. Therefore the possibility of some country donating vaccines to India is very minimal. Also, along with China and the US, India is one of the largest producers of the COVID 19 vaccine right now. Still they are facing a shortage of vaccine vials.

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Its mentioned that it is on other countries that do face up shortages and to those few countries that you have mentioned.They might not really be facing some shortages but on other areas in the world does.
Honestly im bit skeptical with those vaccines even if its already available into my place but i dont still have the confidence on taking some does of it even though its on the risk of covid 19 but i cant
really remove into my mind about the side effects that could possibly come out with those new vaccines even though its being tested already but maybe in few months time i would consider on taking
on if i do see no problems for that one.

[Sithara007]

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Israel signed contracts with the vaccine manufacturers at a very early stage, and as a result they have been able to completely vaccinate almost 50% of their population until now. But that doesn't mean that there is a shortage of vaccines in Israel. If enough vaccines were available, then they could have vaccinated everyone in the country. The same with United Kingdom as well. So far they have administered two doses of the vaccine only to 2.4% of the population.

[South Park]

Every one is about to get royally screwed. There is a very dangerous mutation spreading in Brazil, which is much more contagious and deadly. It was first discovered in the Amazonian city of Manaus (called as mutation P1 by medics). This mutation infects people who were infected previously with COVID 19 and has proved to be deadly even for healthy people in their 30s and 40s. As of now, it is limited to Brazil, but it is just a matter of time before the mutated version spreads to the other countries.

Could you give a link about this especially when it comes to increased lethality? I have been reading some about this new strain of the virus but while it seems it can spread easier and that it can in fact reinfect those that have been infected by Covid before it seems lethality has not changed, which is the most important factor as increased lethality will basically force us into a lockdown all over the world once again and no one wants that.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

[Spaffin]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

[AllGoodNamesAreTaken]

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

LOL.. I guess your news is at least 12 months old. You can go to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO) and check the list of approved vaccines. Right now, almost 10 different vaccines have gained either full authorization from the WHO, or the emergency use permission. The vaccine from Pfizer–BioNTech is having authorization from 47 different countries, while the Sputnik V is having 51 authorizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine#List_of_authorized_and_approved_vaccines

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

They stopped vaccination with AstraZeneca in Europe this week because there where some cases of blood clot.

[Vishnu.Reang]

There is also the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is produced in India. of course this vaccine may not have the same performance as Pfizer, but nevertheless it is legal in many countries too. Only in Ukraine there was an incident where the country's sanitary doctor officially and publicly vaccinated with the astrazeneca vaccine and a few days later fell ill with coronavirus. I get the impression that almost all vaccines that in fact have not passed clinical trials are nothing more than a broth that can either harm people, or even have no effect at all.

The vaccine from Oxford/AstraZeneca is Adenovirus Vector vaccine, so the efficacy may be slightly lower. But it is easier to produce and therefore more affordable. The Sputnik V vaccine from Russia is also of this type, but they use two different viral vectors. So it is more effective and slightly more expensive. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are RNA vaccines. Highly effective, but difficult to store and somewhat unaffordable to many people.

[Argoo]

Of course, the size of this pandemic and its consequences are dire. However, measures to combat the coronavirus pandemic are no less destructive. Now the third wave of this virus is approaching and its more formidable new strains have appeared. When it will end is still unknown. From prolonged isolation and often job loss, people are increasingly beginning to protest tough quarantine measures. However, every cloud has a silver lining. From the forced idleness, people became more and more interested in cryptocurrency. Most likely, in this regard, the cryptocurrency is now growing well in price.

[Sithara007]

Of course, the size of this pandemic and its consequences are dire. However, measures to combat the coronavirus pandemic are no less destructive. Now the third wave of this virus is approaching and its more formidable new strains have appeared. When it will end is still unknown. From prolonged isolation and often job loss, people are increasingly beginning to protest tough quarantine measures. However, every cloud has a silver lining. From the forced idleness, people became more and more interested in cryptocurrency. Most likely, in this regard, the cryptocurrency is now growing well in price.

The authorities are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they impose further lockdown/quarantine measures, then the economy will get destroyed and their tax revenues will decline. On the other hand, if they don't take any concrete measure, then the death toll will mount (similar to what we are witnessing in Brazil right now). It is going to be tough at least until the end of this year, since the vaccine mass production is still not up to the mark.

[Ultegra134]

I'll have to disagree on this one, the majority of the countries are facing shortages yes, especially those in the European Union, due to late agreements from the EU. The United Kingdom hasn't faced any major shortages, nor has Israel, having forecasted the increased need from before it even got released.

Israel signed contracts with the vaccine manufacturers at a very early stage, and as a result they have been able to completely vaccinate almost 50% of their population until now. But that doesn't mean that there is a shortage of vaccines in Israel. If enough vaccines were available, then they could have vaccinated everyone in the country. The same with United Kingdom as well. So far they have administered two doses of the vaccine only to 2.4% of the population.

That's exactly what I said, they were smart enough to forecast that such a thing with shortages would happen. The same thing goes with the Pfizer vaccine, which is produced in the UK and have secured a large batch of vaccines for their own population.

Yes, several organizations around the world have started competing to combat the epidemic the modern vaccine is one of them there is currently no approved treatment or vaccine for Covid 19 Israel has entered into a management agreement with Modern. Through which the vaccine can be purchased moderna is moving forward in their vaccine development they are claiming that they will be able to prepare the vaccine by the middle of next year hopefully they will succeed.

There are already plenty of approved vaccines, some of which are Moderna, Sputnik which is about to receive European approval, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the Johnson which got recently approved.

[Vishnu.Reang]

There are already plenty of approved vaccines, some of which are Moderna, Sputnik which is about to receive European approval, Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the Johnson which got recently approved.

Right now there are 12 different vaccines, which have received either full authorization, or emergency use authorization (EUA) from at least one country. Out of these 12, seven have received authorization from large number of countries: Pfizer–BioNTech, Sputnik V, Oxford–AstraZeneca, Sinopharm, Sinovac, Moderna and Janssen. The remaining 5, with limited authorization are: CanSino, Bharat Biotech, Vector Institute, Anhui Zhifei and Chumakov Centre.

[cheezcarls]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

Even in my country, there seems to be a new wave of COVID 19 infection. The new strains are causing this surge. Virus is staring to mutate to vaccine-resistant types, which are more contagious and lethal. Reports from Brazil indicate that these new strains are even infecting people who recovered from COVID 19 earlier. Still, there is good news as well. Look at the case of United Kingdom. The number of daily deaths have decreased by more than 90%, ever since the vaccination program started.

[Ultegra134]

Now it seems that Philippines is on its way back to square one. It’s because of what happened in Metro Manila and the entire National Capital Region, there is a huge spike on the number of cases. I don’t know if this will be called a second wave, but they are now imposing a unified curfew between 10 PM to 5 AM only for the National Capital Region. Because of this surge, the entirety of Philippines are now averaging 4k to 5k+ daily cases, an overwhelming increase from just an average of 1k+ cases in the past few months.

They have also imposed barangay (village) granular lockdowns too for certain areas that were having high COVID cases. The only positive side right now is that compared to last year, the government is well-prepared, because of the vaccine rollouts and strictly enforcing the public health protocols.

We’re kinda the longest lockdown in the world right now and it sucks to be honest. But oh well, this is what the government are trying their best, and back to square one again.

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

[Sithara007]

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

I don't understand the point in reopening churches and schools when the services can be conducted online. I am in favor of reopening the essential services such as retail shops, but there is no need to permit churches to reopen. But I can understand the situation in developing nations, where churches make most of the policy decisions and retain a disproportionate influence on the government.

[Ultegra134]

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

I don't understand the point in reopening churches and schools when the services can be conducted online. I am in favor of reopening the essential services such as retail shops, but there is no need to permit churches to reopen. But I can understand the situation in developing nations, where churches make most of the policy decisions and retain a disproportionate influence on the government.

I agree about the churches, I'm an atheist myself and I find it frustrating that such things are still happening in the 21st century. However, a large percentage of the population is religious, closing churches during Christmas celebrations (Or easter's for example) would lead to a condemnation towards the government. The result, a loss of votes in the next election would be one thing.

Unfortunately, the church and the state goes together in Greece, something that the previous government tried to change but was met with great disapproval from the public.

[Sithara007]

I agree about the churches, I'm an atheist myself and I find it frustrating that such things are still happening in the 21st century. However, a large percentage of the population is religious, closing churches during Christmas celebrations (Or easter's for example) would lead to a condemnation towards the government. The result, a loss of votes in the next election would be one thing.

Unfortunately, the church and the state goes together in Greece, something that the previous government tried to change but was met with great disapproval from the public.

I don't know about the case in other countries. But in South Korea, it was one of the church groups (Shincheonji Church of Jesus) which was responsible for bringing the infection from Wuhan and then spreading it to the general population. And even in the United States, during the initial phases there were a number of clusters concentrated around some of the churches, as the pastors ignored calls to suspend their services.

[Ultegra134]

I agree about the churches, I'm an atheist myself and I find it frustrating that such things are still happening in the 21st century. However, a large percentage of the population is religious, closing churches during Christmas celebrations (Or easter's for example) would lead to a condemnation towards the government. The result, a loss of votes in the next election would be one thing.

Unfortunately, the church and the state goes together in Greece, something that the previous government tried to change but was met with great disapproval from the public.

I don't know about the case in other countries. But in South Korea, it was one of the church groups (Shincheonji Church of Jesus) which was responsible for bringing the infection from Wuhan and then spreading it to the general population. And even in the United States, during the initial phases there were a number of clusters concentrated around some of the churches, as the pastors ignored calls to suspend their services.

The first reported deaths were some religious party who had visited Mount Othos, an Eastern Orthodox monastery. I'm not implying it started from there, but a cluster of cases has been found from Christmas religious events. The politicians never publically pointed their fingers to church, for the reasons I already explained on the previous post, instead, they blamed retail and personal responsibility.

[jaysabi]

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

I don't understand the point in reopening churches and schools when the services can be conducted online. I am in favor of reopening the essential services such as retail shops, but there is no need to permit churches to reopen. But I can understand the situation in developing nations, where churches make most of the policy decisions and retain a disproportionate influence on the government.

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

[Ultegra134]

We're going through a similar phase, some response measures were eased in late December/January, which included the full reopening of all retail shops and even the allowance of churches during Christmas. Along with the overcrowded classrooms of schools, it led to a backfire of the pandemic in the country.

All of this happened because the government was pursuing to cut down on Covid-19 benefits for employees/shops etc and have now resulted in a third wave of the epidemic, with the country being in the worst position it has ever been.

I don't understand the point in reopening churches and schools when the services can be conducted online. I am in favor of reopening the essential services such as retail shops, but there is no need to permit churches to reopen. But I can understand the situation in developing nations, where churches make most of the policy decisions and retain a disproportionate influence on the government.

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I've seen that happen quite often, religious people get way too offended if you're against something they believe in. I know people that in the peak of the pandemic, were visiting churches to receive communion. What a dumb attitude to have during a dire situation we live in, I hope their God saves them when they need an ICU bed.

[Shasha80]

What happened in Greece does not seem very different from what happened in the country I live in. In my country it is prohibited to have crowds,
therefore it is recommended by the government to buy daily necessities online. And some shops that sell daily necessities open later at 10.00 AM.
and closes early at 7.00 PM. And also some offices reduce the number of their employees, and some offices reduce the salaries of their workers too.
The impact of COVID-19 and lockdown is indeed very large, therefore I hope that the COVID-19 pandemic will end soon. If not, the world would be
more chaotic.

[bryant.coleman]

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I would agree. At least as far as the COVID 19 pandemic is concerned, many of the organized religions had a negative impact on the containment efforts. From Brazil to Philippines, we are hearing stories about clerics asking their followers to ignore social distancing and refuse vaccination. Without these unnecessary interventions from the religious groups, the death toll from COVID 19 would have been much lower.

[Ultegra134]

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I would agree. At least as far as the COVID 19 pandemic is concerned, many of the organized religions had a negative impact on the containment efforts. From Brazil to Philippines, we are hearing stories about clerics asking their followers to ignore social distancing and refuse vaccination. Without these unnecessary interventions from the religious groups, the death toll from COVID 19 would have been much lower.

Such events have also happened here, many priests advised against the usage of masks, vaccines and any measures to tackle the transmission. Let's not mention that some churches completely ignored any taken measures and filled the churches with masses of people with little action taken against them.

Especially the elderly won't give up on going to the church easily. It's funny, you can shop online, work online, sign paperwork and so on, but these people can't stay at home and pray, while remaining in the safety of their own home.

[qwertyup23]

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I would agree. At least as far as the COVID 19 pandemic is concerned, many of the organized religions had a negative impact on the containment efforts. From Brazil to Philippines, we are hearing stories about clerics asking their followers to ignore social distancing and refuse vaccination. Without these unnecessary interventions from the religious groups, the death toll from COVID 19 would have been much lower.

I think there was a case here in the Philippines were a parish priest who conducted mass died of Covid-19 and the church in which he held the mass resulted into a lockdown. In addition, the clergymen of the said church also tested positive in the virus.

Unfortunately, most people got too complacent with their daily endeavors. Even with the presence of the vaccine, it does not ABSOLUTELY guarantee that one is immune from acquiring the said virus. Worst, the acquisition of the vaccine is on the hands of the government, in which if the latter acts slow then the cases will definitely spike.

I do hope that people should be extra careful in this second wave of the virus. With new variants being discovered each day, who knows when would be the end of this nightmare of a situation globally.

[cheezcarls]

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I would agree. At least as far as the COVID 19 pandemic is concerned, many of the organized religions had a negative impact on the containment efforts. From Brazil to Philippines, we are hearing stories about clerics asking their followers to ignore social distancing and refuse vaccination. Without these unnecessary interventions from the religious groups, the death toll from COVID 19 would have been much lower.

I think there was a case here in the Philippines were a parish priest who conducted mass died of Covid-19 and the church in which he held the mass resulted into a lockdown. In addition, the clergymen of the said church also tested positive in the virus.

Unfortunately, most people got too complacent with their daily endeavors. Even with the presence of the vaccine, it does not ABSOLUTELY guarantee that one is immune from acquiring the said virus. Worst, the acquisition of the vaccine is on the hands of the government, in which if the latter acts slow then the cases will definitely spike.

I do hope that people should be extra careful in this second wave of the virus. With new variants being discovered each day, who knows when would be the end of this nightmare of a situation globally.

And yet here we are averaging more than 7k to 8k cases per day. There are analysts who claimed that COVID-19 is seasonal. If they are right about that, regular vaccinations are needed. As of today, we are still long ways to go before we could achieve herd immunity.

In my city, I am also disappointed with some groups who choose to do private mass gatherings for their business presentations without practicing social distancing, wearing of face masks, etc., (you know network marketing stuff). As a result, average cases continue rising and it won't stop for sure. Public use of vaccines is still a long way to go like Astrazeneca, Sinovac, etc.

I would rule out traveling on inter-islands this year unless some miracle happens. This would be a second wave for sure despite the Department of Health isn't ruling out on this yet.

[Fatunad]

Religion doesn't exactly inspire people to be logical about things, in fact it's entirely built on suspending rationale thought and just believing in things whether or not they're true.  It's the perfect example of how not to behave when lives are on the line.  But I will say it's perfectly on brand for religious folks to get angry or even violently upset over someone else not believing what they believe.

I would agree. At least as far as the COVID 19 pandemic is concerned, many of the organized religions had a negative impact on the containment efforts. From Brazil to Philippines, we are hearing stories about clerics asking their followers to ignore social distancing and refuse vaccination. Without these unnecessary interventions from the religious groups, the death toll from COVID 19 would have been much lower.

I think there was a case here in the Philippines were a parish priest who conducted mass died of Covid-19 and the church in which he held the mass resulted into a lockdown. In addition, the clergymen of the said church also tested positive in the virus.

Unfortunately, most people got too complacent with their daily endeavors. Even with the presence of the vaccine, it does not ABSOLUTELY guarantee that one is immune from acquiring the said virus. Worst, the acquisition of the vaccine is on the hands of the government, in which if the latter acts slow then the cases will definitely spike.

I do hope that people should be extra careful in this second wave of the virus. With new variants being discovered each day, who knows when would be the end of this nightmare of a situation globally.

People did really got confident that they might able to handle out the said virus since now that vaccine is already available but same as you mentioned that this wont really be preventing us for us to get infected
or does give 100% guarantee but people do have made wrong decisions instead of strictly following health protocols which would really result into a disaster or typical increase of infected persons.
Discipline on ones self plus strict implementation of rules and regulations of health protocols should be followed and be handled that properly.We wont really be ending up this
situation if people would really be having that kind of behavior or mindset until the cure would come out.

[Finestream]

What happened in Greece does not seem very different from what happened in the country I live in. In my country it is prohibited to have crowds,
therefore it is recommended by the government to buy daily necessities online. And some shops that sell daily necessities open later at 10.00 AM.
and closes early at 7.00 PM. And also some offices reduce the number of their employees, and some offices reduce the salaries of their workers too.
The impact of COVID-19 and lockdown is indeed very large, therefore I hope that the COVID-19 pandemic will end soon. If not, the world would be
more chaotic.

Exactly. This covid 19 pandemic will definitely leave negative remarks to every country as it affects all the aspects to live a normal life. Lot of people have struggle to find jobs for their own and when this pandemic came, everyone loses their jobs in a sudden. Even big and established companies have greatly affected and resulted into closure which loses the jobs of millions of people.

[AndySt]

People did really got confident that they might able to handle out the said virus since now that vaccine is already available but same as you mentioned that this wont really be preventing us for us to get infected or does give 100% guarantee but people do have made wrong decisions instead of strictly following health protocols which would really result into a disaster or typical increase of infected persons.
Discipline on ones self plus strict implementation of rules and regulations of health protocols should be followed and be handled that properly.We wont really be ending up this
situation if people would really be having that kind of behavior or mindset until the cure would come out.

On the one hand, it is clear that people are already beginning to lose patience, money, and standard of living due to the ongoing lockdowns, not fully understood stories with vaccination and the vaccines themselves. On the other hand, the pandemic has not yet receded much, and indeed the population should show patience and endurance in the face of the challenges that have come. The main reason for all the restrictions imposed is not the high contagion of the virus, but more severe consequences for health and, most importantly, for people's lives.

[Sithara007]

On the one hand, it is clear that people are already beginning to lose patience, money, and standard of living due to the ongoing lockdowns, not fully understood stories with vaccination and the vaccines themselves. On the other hand, the pandemic has not yet receded much, and indeed the population should show patience and endurance in the face of the challenges that have come. The main reason for all the restrictions imposed is not the high contagion of the virus, but more severe consequences for health and, most importantly, for people's lives.

Already one year has passed and there is no end in sight for this pandemic. The vaccination program is also going forward at a very slow pace in most of the countries (with a few exceptions such as Israel, Seychelles and the United Kingdom). Some people (especially those in their teens and 20s) are losing their patience and going out despite the obvious risks. The problem is that these youngsters will get themselves infected and then pass on the virus to their elderly relatives. 

[Ultegra134]

On the one hand, it is clear that people are already beginning to lose patience, money, and standard of living due to the ongoing lockdowns, not fully understood stories with vaccination and the vaccines themselves. On the other hand, the pandemic has not yet receded much, and indeed the population should show patience and endurance in the face of the challenges that have come. The main reason for all the restrictions imposed is not the high contagion of the virus, but more severe consequences for health and, most importantly, for people's lives.

Already one year has passed and there is no end in sight for this pandemic. The vaccination program is also going forward at a very slow pace in most of the countries (with a few exceptions such as Israel, Seychelles and the United Kingdom). Some people (especially those in their teens and 20s) are losing their patience and going out despite the obvious risks. The problem is that these youngsters will get themselves infected and then pass on the virus to their elderly relatives. 

The population is getting tired of the lockdown measures, so am I, but there's nothing else that can be done at this point. We need to be patient. In my opinion, what you described has led to a respectively large amount of deaths and cases. Especially deriving from schools, younger children can easily pass the disease to their parents/grandparents, with a cluster of cases starting from there.

[bryant.coleman]

The population is getting tired of the lockdown measures, so am I, but there's nothing else that can be done at this point. We need to be patient. In my opinion, what you described has led to a respectively large amount of deaths and cases. Especially deriving from schools, younger children can easily pass the disease to their parents/grandparents, with a cluster of cases starting from there.

Among the young people, the mortality rate from COVID 19 is very low (around 0.1% to 0.2%), and therefore they are quite careless as far as protective mechanisms are concerned. Even in my country, I have seen a lot of youngsters roaming around without face masks. But they need to remember that they are not immune to the virus. There have been deaths among the younger people as well (although in smaller numbers).

[Ultegra134]

The population is getting tired of the lockdown measures, so am I, but there's nothing else that can be done at this point. We need to be patient. In my opinion, what you described has led to a respectively large amount of deaths and cases. Especially deriving from schools, younger children can easily pass the disease to their parents/grandparents, with a cluster of cases starting from there.

Among the young people, the mortality rate from COVID 19 is very low (around 0.1% to 0.2%), and therefore they are quite careless as far as protective mechanisms are concerned. Even in my country, I have seen a lot of youngsters roaming around without face masks. But they need to remember that they are not immune to the virus. There have been deaths among the younger people as well (although in smaller numbers).

The mortality rate among the young isn't the main concern here, it's definitely not insignificant, but that's not our main issue here. The main concern is that younger people are contributing to the wide transmission, thus leading to a cluster of both cases and deaths (especially the elderly)

[livingfree]

Exactly. This covid 19 pandemic will definitely leave negative remarks to every country as it affects all the aspects to live a normal life. Lot of people have struggle to find jobs for their own and when this pandemic came, everyone loses their jobs in a sudden. Even big and established companies have greatly affected and resulted into closure which loses the jobs of millions of people.

For those countries that have hard time dealing with it. Flattening the curve is hard and that's really making their economies struggling.

Many have lost jobs and businesses have closed and went into bankrupt. That's one of the effect that we cannot really forget as the result of this pandemic.

People lost jobs means that there will many that have to deal with hunger because that can also effect them having no food to bring into their table.

[MCobian]

It has been about a year since the COVID-19 pandemic is still running, and there is no sign that this pandemic is coming to an end. Already many
people are frustrated and stressed by the current conditions, because it must be admitted that it is very difficult to find a job  in a situation like now.
Even in some countries the number of poor people continues to increase, this is truly catastrophic. Therefore,  it is very fortunate for people who
are familiar with Bitcoin, because Bitcoin can be an alternative source of income in a situation like now.

[Sithara007]

It has been about a year since the COVID-19 pandemic is still running, and there is no sign that this pandemic is coming to an end. Already many
people are frustrated and stressed by the current conditions, because it must be admitted that it is very difficult to find a job  in a situation like now.
Even in some countries the number of poor people continues to increase, this is truly catastrophic. Therefore,  it is very fortunate for people who
are familiar with Bitcoin, because Bitcoin can be an alternative source of income in a situation like now.

Actually rather than getting contained, the pandemic is getting even worse. Yesterday I read a news article, that claimed that the new strain that was found in Brazil can infect even those who have been vaccinated against COVID 19. If this is true, then we will be in big trouble. Right now there are a lot of expectation from the vaccination program, and it is one of the reasons behind the recent dip in deaths reported from some of the countries, such as the United Kingdom and Israel.

[bryant.coleman]

Limiting all activities is of course very detrimental for the middle and lower class here, the government requires working from home that only applies to those who have their own businesses who can use an internet connection or office workers who can complete their tasks on a computer screen
For middle class workers such as daily workers, entrepreneurs, small traders, of course, will be greatly affected by the restrictions caused by this pandemic

For blue collar workers, working from home is not available. Unless the COVID 19 spread is extremely high, the government needs to allow these people to work in their respective facilities. Ideally, they should be vaccinated before this. But right now none of the countries are having enough doses to vaccinate the non-priority groups. However, if they wear masks properly and maintain social distancing, then the chance of getting infected can be reduced.

[shoreno]

Limiting all activities is of course very detrimental for the middle and lower class here, the government requires working from home that only applies to those who have their own businesses who can use an internet connection or office workers who can complete their tasks on a computer screen
For middle class workers such as daily workers, entrepreneurs, small traders, of course, will be greatly affected by the restrictions caused by this pandemic

For blue collar workers, working from home is not available. Unless the COVID 19 spread is extremely high, the government needs to allow these people to work in their respective facilities. Ideally, they should be vaccinated before this. But right now none of the countries are having enough doses to vaccinate the non-priority groups. However, if they wear masks properly and maintain social distancing, then the chance of getting infected can be reduced.

but is the spread of covid isnt that high ? i think its already high because everyday there are cases that are being reported but still they dont have a choice but to open some business and allow workers to continue working because its not possible for those workers to work from home due to the nature of thier jobs  . i dont think vaccinces are running out because many people avoid to get vaccinated but workers are not going to avoid the vaccines because it was required by every company  . workers are also the ones that can follow health protocols properly because they are being monitored all day .

[doomloop]

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

In my country the lockdown has already been over since , we didn’t go for another one, though we did for lockdown about three to four times, but all that happened in last year and to be sincere it wasn’t an easy situation and people couldn’t take it, and this time around as I am seeing it I don’t think that anybody is ready to go for that lockdown again.

And the lockdown really resulted into situations that I don’t like that much, things that wouldn’t have happened if there was no lockdown at all. The country has been in such a mess, but I believe by God’s grace we will get through everything that has been happening.

[Vishnu.Reang]

most of the European countries are undergoing a hard lockdown by local governments in my opinion unjustified, where I am we are already in the third wave of the virus the infections alternate between many and few therefore red zone until the best situation, who had a precarious work now has to deal with poverty

European countries can afford multiple phases of lockdowns because the governments have enough cash at hand to compensate the workers and the businesses. But that is not the case in developed nations such as India and Pakistan. According to the Pew Research Center, the number of poor people increased by almost 100% in India, as a result of the pandemic in just 12 months of 2020-21.

[mezzaluna]

Exactly. This covid 19 pandemic will definitely leave negative remarks to every country as it affects all the aspects to live a normal life. Lot of people have struggle to find jobs for their own and when this pandemic came, everyone loses their jobs in a sudden. Even big and established companies have greatly affected and resulted into closure which loses the jobs of millions of people.

For those countries that have hard time dealing with it. Flattening the curve is hard and that's really making their economies struggling.

Many have lost jobs and businesses have closed and went into bankrupt. That's one of the effect that we cannot really forget as the result of this pandemic.

People lost jobs means that there will many that have to deal with hunger because that can also effect them having no food to bring into their table.

Some government officials have so much pride that they dont want to copy or set other countries as an example and the result of their stubbornness is the suffering of their countrymen. In our country, we are gonna enter another Lock down or quarantine period in which they are only changing the names so people would not get suspicious but the way they are addressing the problem is lacking because we are already given the resources but they don't know how to use it. They have set another lock down but there will be no food that will delivered within communities which is really weird because its like they do not know that not all families have stocked food.

[Ultegra134]

It has been about a year since the COVID-19 pandemic is still running, and there is no sign that this pandemic is coming to an end. Already many
people are frustrated and stressed by the current conditions, because it must be admitted that it is very difficult to find a job  in a situation like now.
Even in some countries the number of poor people continues to increase, this is truly catastrophic. Therefore,  it is very fortunate for people who
are familiar with Bitcoin, because Bitcoin can be an alternative source of income in a situation like now.

Actually rather than getting contained, the pandemic is getting even worse. Yesterday I read a news article, that claimed that the new strain that was found in Brazil can infect even those who have been vaccinated against COVID 19. If this is true, then we will be in big trouble. Right now there are a lot of expectation from the vaccination program, and it is one of the reasons behind the recent dip in deaths reported from some of the countries, such as the United Kingdom and Israel.

We're actually screwed if this is true, that will require a reformation of current vaccines to adapt to the new strains, plus new vaccinations from scratch. There are a lot of rumors about new strains being discovered quite often, which is quite worrisome. It looks like a never ending nightmare.

most of the European countries are undergoing a hard lockdown by local governments in my opinion unjustified, where I am we are already in the third wave of the virus the infections alternate between many and few therefore red zone until the best situation, who had a precarious work now has to deal with poverty

European countries can afford multiple phases of lockdowns because the governments have enough cash at hand to compensate the workers and the businesses. But that is not the case in developed nations such as India and Pakistan. According to the Pew Research Center, the number of poor people increased by almost 100% in India, as a result of the pandemic in just 12 months of 2020-21.

I wouldn't say that, some European countries may have the ability to afford multiple lockdowns, such as Germany, Austria, France and a few more. The majority of the EU countries do not though. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and many more will have to go through intense austerity measures, after the pandemic ends.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I wouldn't say that, some European countries may have the ability to afford multiple lockdowns, such as Germany, Austria, France and a few more. The majority of the EU countries do not though. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and many more will have to go through intense austerity measures, after the pandemic ends.

EU nations should be fine, because most of the stimulus measures are being sponsored by the European Union (mainly with funding from richer nations such as Germany and France). And regarding countries such as Italy and Greece, they were in a bad economic condition even before the pandemic started and I don't expect that to change considerably in the near future. Austerity measures will be undertaken. There is no other choice.

[livingfree]

Exactly. This covid 19 pandemic will definitely leave negative remarks to every country as it affects all the aspects to live a normal life. Lot of people have struggle to find jobs for their own and when this pandemic came, everyone loses their jobs in a sudden. Even big and established companies have greatly affected and resulted into closure which loses the jobs of millions of people.

For those countries that have hard time dealing with it. Flattening the curve is hard and that's really making their economies struggling.

Many have lost jobs and businesses have closed and went into bankrupt. That's one of the effect that we cannot really forget as the result of this pandemic.

People lost jobs means that there will many that have to deal with hunger because that can also effect them having no food to bring into their table.

Limiting all activities is of course very detrimental for the middle and lower class here, the government requires working from home that only applies to those who have their own businesses who can use an internet connection or office workers who can complete their tasks on a computer screen
For middle class workers such as daily workers, entrepreneurs, small traders, of course, will be greatly affected by the restrictions caused by this pandemic

Working at home is not applicable for all the people in the working class.

Not all services can be brought into that setup because it's really different from what they bring. For those that can be on that setup for the meantime, they can do that and that's a good alternative for them.

But for the other industries that cannot do it alone, they really are suffering.

[Ultegra134]

I wouldn't say that, some European countries may have the ability to afford multiple lockdowns, such as Germany, Austria, France and a few more. The majority of the EU countries do not though. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and many more will have to go through intense austerity measures, after the pandemic ends.

EU nations should be fine, because most of the stimulus measures are being sponsored by the European Union (mainly with funding from richer nations such as Germany and France). And regarding countries such as Italy and Greece, they were in a bad economic condition even before the pandemic started and I don't expect that to change considerably in the near future. Austerity measures will be undertaken. There is no other choice.

I can't speak for other countries, Greece however, was doing considerably better before the pandemic, with Tsipras as Prime Minister. The country's GDP free fall had stopped and the condition was a lot better. Greece exited the third memorandum in 2018.

https://www.goldenvisa-greece.com/greece-exit-memorandum-invest/

This, will radically change after the pandemic is over, we will probably have a 4th Economic Adjustment Program (Memorandum) to repay all the money that has been spent as income benefits due to Covid.

[Mauser]

I wouldn't say that, some European countries may have the ability to afford multiple lockdowns, such as Germany, Austria, France and a few more. The majority of the EU countries do not though. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and many more will have to go through intense austerity measures, after the pandemic ends.

EU nations should be fine, because most of the stimulus measures are being sponsored by the European Union (mainly with funding from richer nations such as Germany and France). And regarding countries such as Italy and Greece, they were in a bad economic condition even before the pandemic started and I don't expect that to change considerably in the near future. Austerity measures will be undertaken. There is no other choice.

I can't speak for other countries, Greece however, was doing considerably better before the pandemic, with Tsipras as Prime Minister. The country's GDP free fall had stopped and the condition was a lot better. Greece exited the third memorandum in 2018.

https://www.goldenvisa-greece.com/greece-exit-memorandum-invest/

This, will radically change after the pandemic is over, we will probably have a 4th Economic Adjustment Program (Memorandum) to repay all the money that has been spent as income benefits due to Covid.

That is great news, very well done Greece. It's good if the money can be repaid so fast. I have no idea how it is going to work in my country. The debt is going to rise substantially this year and next year. And after that I have no clue if its going to be repaid. Also more and more shops are closing down. It is hard to imagine how the economy is going to adapt to the new normal.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I can't speak for other countries, Greece however, was doing considerably better before the pandemic, with Tsipras as Prime Minister. The country's GDP free fall had stopped and the condition was a lot better. Greece exited the third memorandum in 2018.

https://www.goldenvisa-greece.com/greece-exit-memorandum-invest/

This, will radically change after the pandemic is over, we will probably have a 4th Economic Adjustment Program (Memorandum) to repay all the money that has been spent as income benefits due to Covid.

So that is good news for Greece. But personally, I am pained to see that those who caused the economic meltdown are happily enjoying their lives in London and other metro cities, while the ordinary citizens continue to suffer for these crimes. Billions of Euros in government funds were stolen and moved out of Greece and that was the reason why the country needed IMF bailouts. The Western nations punished ordinary Greek citizens for the government's inability to pay back debt. But at the same time, they gave refuge to the criminals who stole the money and moved to various Western nations.

[jaysabi]

It has been about a year since the COVID-19 pandemic is still running, and there is no sign that this pandemic is coming to an end. Already many
people are frustrated and stressed by the current conditions, because it must be admitted that it is very difficult to find a job  in a situation like now.
Even in some countries the number of poor people continues to increase, this is truly catastrophic. Therefore,  it is very fortunate for people who
are familiar with Bitcoin, because Bitcoin can be an alternative source of income in a situation like now.

Bitcoin isn't an income source. It doesn't generate cashflow and it's not a business. You can't "make" money with bitcoin except by spending money on it and hoping it goes up in value. That's no different from literally every other asset on the planet. People act like bitcoin is magic and it's not.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Well, perhaps the current Greek authorities should show more initiative in order to investigate such economic crimes and on the basis of this demand the extradition of such characters. Otherwise, if the authorities of other states start to deal with such things, it will again strongly resemble the external management that was present during the last debt crisis. The most important thing is that this does not turn into a political persecution of the undesirable.

Greece is not a superpower who can force extradition of these criminals. They are living a comfortable life in cities such as London and Paris, without bothering about the lawsuits. London has emerged as a perfect refuge for economic criminals from all around the world. There are more than a dozen from India who are currently based in London, including Vijay Mallya and Nirav Modi. The British government refuses to extradite them, simply because the stolen money is being stored in British banks.

[Ultegra134]

I wouldn't say that, some European countries may have the ability to afford multiple lockdowns, such as Germany, Austria, France and a few more. The majority of the EU countries do not though. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and many more will have to go through intense austerity measures, after the pandemic ends.

EU nations should be fine, because most of the stimulus measures are being sponsored by the European Union (mainly with funding from richer nations such as Germany and France). And regarding countries such as Italy and Greece, they were in a bad economic condition even before the pandemic started and I don't expect that to change considerably in the near future. Austerity measures will be undertaken. There is no other choice.

I can't speak for other countries, Greece however, was doing considerably better before the pandemic, with Tsipras as Prime Minister. The country's GDP free fall had stopped and the condition was a lot better. Greece exited the third memorandum in 2018.

https://www.goldenvisa-greece.com/greece-exit-memorandum-invest/

This, will radically change after the pandemic is over, we will probably have a 4th Economic Adjustment Program (Memorandum) to repay all the money that has been spent as income benefits due to Covid.

That is great news, very well done Greece. It's good if the money can be repaid so fast. I have no idea how it is going to work in my country. The debt is going to rise substantially this year and next year. And after that I have no clue if its going to be repaid. Also more and more shops are closing down. It is hard to imagine how the economy is going to adapt to the new normal.

I can't speak for other countries, Greece however, was doing considerably better before the pandemic, with Tsipras as Prime Minister. The country's GDP free fall had stopped and the condition was a lot better. Greece exited the third memorandum in 2018.

https://www.goldenvisa-greece.com/greece-exit-memorandum-invest/

This, will radically change after the pandemic is over, we will probably have a 4th Economic Adjustment Program (Memorandum) to repay all the money that has been spent as income benefits due to Covid.

So that is good news for Greece. But personally, I am pained to see that those who caused the economic meltdown are happily enjoying their lives in London and other metro cities, while the ordinary citizens continue to suffer for these crimes. Billions of Euros in government funds were stolen and moved out of Greece and that was the reason why the country needed IMF bailouts. The Western nations punished ordinary Greek citizens for the government's inability to pay back debt. But at the same time, they gave refuge to the criminals who stole the money and moved to various Western nations.

It was good news, in 2018. GDP is now again at a free-fall, even before the pandemic, blame the current Prime Minister Mitsotakis and the pandemic of course. On the other hand, when we're done with this situation, more austerity measures will be taken, it's highly likely that a 4th Memorandum is on its way, in order to repay all the money that has been given in income benefits, due to Covid-19.

[cheezcarls]

The Philippines so far is about to get worse. Instead of going back to square one, we are now 10 steps backward because the government can’t afford anymore to go full lockdown measure. If the government is clearly running out of funds, they have no choice but to print more money. In my city alone, from zero to single digit daily cases, we are now averaging between 17 to 25 new cases. It’s simply because the National Inter-Agency Task Force lifted the restrictions of APORs (authorized personnel outside residence) where swab test is not mandatory anymore, and that’s where our daily cases are increasing again.

Manila and the entire National Capital Region are currently under “hard” general community quarantine and most of the surging cases are there. In the entire Philippines, we are now averaging between 7k-8k+ new cases.

[Ultegra134]

The Philippines so far is about to get worse. Instead of going back to square one, we are now 10 steps backward because the government can’t afford anymore to go full lockdown measure. If the government is clearly running out of funds, they have no choice but to print more money. In my city alone, from zero to single digit daily cases, we are now averaging between 17 to 25 new cases. It’s simply because the National Inter-Agency Task Force lifted the restrictions of APORs (authorized personnel outside residence) where swab test is not mandatory anymore, and that’s where our daily cases are increasing again.

Manila and the entire National Capital Region are currently under “hard” general community quarantine and most of the surging cases are there. In the entire Philippines, we are now averaging between 7k-8k+ new cases.

That's definitely the same case here, the progress we've made in this 5-month long lockdown is negligible. In my opinion, we're many steps backwards too. Lockdown was imposed in November, when we had approximately 1,500 cases daily, in January, some measures were eased, including the reopening of retail shops. At that point, we had around 600-800 cases daily. Shortly after, daily cases are on the rise, everything shuts down again till now.

On the one hand,  we're currently having more than 3,000 cases daily, 700 people in ICUs, with hospitals being unable to handle the situation, and on the other hand, the government is planning to ease the measures, reopen retail and restaurant/coffee shops etc. Due to lack of funds, they are trying to cut down on any benefits that are paid to both employees/employers.

[Sithara007]

That's definitely the same case here, the progress we've made in this 5-month long lockdown is negligible. In my opinion, we're many steps backwards too. Lockdown was imposed in November, when we had approximately 1,500 cases daily, in January, some measures were eased, including the reopening of retail shops. At that point, we had around 600-800 cases daily. Shortly after, daily cases are on the rise, everything shuts down again till now.

On the one hand,  we're currently having more than 3,000 cases daily, 700 people in ICUs, with hospitals being unable to handle the situation, and on the other hand, the government is planning to ease the measures, reopen retail and restaurant/coffee shops etc. Due to lack of funds, they are trying to cut down on any benefits that are paid to both employees/employers.

I am really worried that the situation is about to get worse in Philippines and the other Asian countries. Till now, the impact of COVID 19 in Asia was very limited, with more than 90% of the deaths occurring in Europe and the Americas. But here in India, the number of new infections are just exploding. In just two weeks, the average number of daily infections have gone up by almost 300%. New strains are being discovered, that are more contagious and fatal. Everyone here is worried about the second wave. 

[fullhdpixel]

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

It is harder to convince pharma companies to bring drugs from USA to any other nation, even big rich nations, and harder for them to do that for nations poor like India. Reason for that is the fact that in USA the health sector is unregulated, people could buy all stocks of a drug and 4000x increase the price and sell and there is nothing stopping them doing it, whereas if you did that in any other nation government would literally seize your production and stop you from doing that.

This is why they rather sell something in USA for 300 dollars instead of 10 dollars in big nations and maybe 3 dollars in small nations, why would they lose that? However if they can produce a lot of it and there is vaccines not being sold enough in USA that would spill towards other nations, but that will take some time, which is why I doubt it would be anytime soon.

[DrBeer]

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!
I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

Being a resident of India, I can assure you that the vaccination program is proceeding very smoothly here. Right now, there are around 2 million vaccinations done per day, and the steps are being taken to increase this to a level of 5 million doses per day in the coming months. India is using two vaccines - CoviShield from Oxford/AstraZeneca and CoVaxin from Bharat Biotech, with efficacy of 62% and 81% respectively. The impact is not visible yet, as very few people have been administered with two doses of the vaccine.

Thanks a lot for your answer !
I am very pleased that your government has made sufficient efforts to launch such a high-quality program of mass vaccination of the population! I hope there will be a positive effect soon, and as few people as possible will suffer!

To begin with, I wish you all good health, and that Covid bypasses you and your families!

Thank you, hope you are well and healthy physically and mentally.

I am very interested in the view from the people of India - a large country, a large population, a high incidence rate of eight, but the production of a vaccine has been established and there is, it seems to me, a systemic vaccination program. What can you say ? Is the vaccination program working, are there massive problems after vaccination, is there a noticeable / measurable effect from the current vaccine?

The problem with some Asian countries, with due respect, is the high population and hence the density is high which aids viruses like covid-19 even more because they are spread through contact and respiratory droplets from one another.

Then, there is politics which plays an important but sometimes ghastly impact on the decision making during such times. Most of the politicians are under educated and don't even know how to respond to such a big pandemic. Now that they have the vaccine, I read somewhere that there is fear among citizens regarding the legitimacy of the vaccine and some rumors about the side effects.

Thank you for your wishes !
Regarding Asian countries, I agree somewhere, at least in a high population density. But as history shows, even if we accept that the government does not have high-quality knowledge, but they can organize a mass process, and call for executive discipline a large part of the population. Take India and Ukraine, where I live, for example. In India, vaccination is a SYSTEM process, quite well organized, from the provision of the vaccine to the vaccination process itself. We have a complete mess, "they bought a vaccine," but it didn’t arrive, then it came but the wrong one and not so much as ordered, then they dragged on for a long time, they told a lot on TV what an alleged "heroic act" the president and the government had committed ... In fact, they committed a lot of violations and crimes. At the same time, they could not inform the population of the need for vaccination, and now part of them wants to be vaccinated, but there is not enough vaccine, others want but definitely a different vaccine, and still others categorically do not even get vaccinated at all ...

[finaleshot2016]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Our country experienced a lockdown, and now I guess we'll experience it again as the COVID-19 cases per day are massively increasing. The only thing I'm doing during lockdown is to study and earn more knowledge in different aspects as it might help me to grow. It's kinda hard but I won't stay and chill at home during lockdown while everyone is struggling because this is the right time to develop ourselves in terms of physical, mental, and emotional because we need to be strong in order to survive the pandemic.

[Theb]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

For the financial part of things the company I am working with have successfully shifted from a work from home setup so I was one of the fortunate ones to be able to get fully pay even if I am not on an office, the sad thing about lockdowns is how you can't really socialize with your friends anymore aside from the social media which really I don't count as socializing, this for me is one of the toughest challenges as I always like to go out and eat with friends. I really don't watch the tv anymore as I don't see any goods news but always how the pandemic is getting more worst in my country so what it looks to me that a vaccine isn't really solving anything right now.

[Fatunad]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Our country experienced a lockdown, and now I guess we'll experience it again as the COVID-19 cases per day are massively increasing. The only thing I'm doing during lockdown is to study and earn more knowledge in different aspects as it might help me to grow. It's kinda hard but I won't stay and chill at home during lockdown while everyone is struggling because this is the right time to develop ourselves in terms of physical, mental, and emotional because we need to be strong in order to survive the pandemic.

As if we do have some choice? Rather than on sitting and just waiting for some aid then its better to make yourself efficient even on the times like these.It might be hard but
its not impossible.Everything could really have their own solution and making yourself way more productive even on the convenience of your own home could still be done.
It is just on someones on how they do deal up with the problem and finding the possible solutions that could really help them out to survive this hard times.
Lock downs would be most likely be on domino effect specially now that the cases is gradually rising once again.People should at least mind when it comes to
discipline or following health protocols because this would really be a never ending problem if we do continue to behave like this.

[Sithara007]

Our country now is back to ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) for 1 week, people again go to supermarket (Panic Buying). This happened because many people are not following simple health protocol, that our government imposed because of these other people now suffer of losing again job and closing their business. Hopefully people will become responsible for their action to minimize spreading of virus.

Lockdown or any other restriction of less than two weeks will not cause any permanent dip in the number of new infections. The incubation period of COVID 19 ranges from 10 to 15 days and that means that these restrictions that last for one week or less are not going to work. At the most, we may see a temporary dip in the number of new cases for one week after the measure, but the rates will go back to the previous level in short time. IMO, the government should impose a complete lockdown of 3 weeks, which can reduce the caseload by 80% plus, if implemented carefully.

[Ipwich]

This lockdown caused by Covid-19 has surely affects the lives of people globally. Industries no matter how big or small was closed except for those industries that produces essential needs. Surely, some are glad because they can work from home and see their families everyday and some are also not happy because their works are limited or the company they work on was closed during this pandemic.

[bryant.coleman]

This lockdown caused by Covid-19 has surely affects the lives of people globally. Industries no matter how big or small was closed except for those industries that produces essential needs. Surely, some are glad because they can work from home and see their families everyday and some are also not happy because their works are limited or the company they work on was closed during this pandemic.

Blue collar workers such as masons and plumbers can't work from home. If the lockdown is imposed, then they will be losing their income. But the good thing this time is that even in case lockdown restrictions are imposed, they are unlikely to last more than a couple of weeks. Hopefully their employers can compensate them for this time period. The government should also step in and offer some sort of financial help to such people.

[Ultegra134]

Our country now is back to ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) for 1 week, people again go to supermarket (Panic Buying). This happened because many people are not following simple health protocol, that our government imposed because of these other people now suffer of losing again job and closing their business. Hopefully people will become responsible for their action to minimize spreading of virus.

Lockdown or any other restriction of less than two weeks will not cause any permanent dip in the number of new infections. The incubation period of COVID 19 ranges from 10 to 15 days and that means that these restrictions that last for one week or less are not going to work. At the most, we may see a temporary dip in the number of new cases for one week after the measure, but the rates will go back to the previous level in short time. IMO, the government should impose a complete lockdown of 3 weeks, which can reduce the caseload by 80% plus, if implemented carefully.

Couldn't agree more, and usually, that's not even enough. In Greece, the lockdown was imposed in early November, (7th of November if I remember correctly). The first prediction was that the lockdown would last till the end of the month, well they were wrong. We're currently entering our 6th month of strict lockdown, with the foreseeable future looking depressing, we still haven't reached the peak of the pandemic, flattening the curve will take weeks, or even months.

[Ucy]

Our country now is back to ECQ (Enhanced Community Quarantine) for 1 week, people again go to supermarket (Panic Buying). This happened because many people are not following simple health protocol, that our government imposed because of these other people now suffer of losing again job and closing their business. Hopefully people will become responsible for their action to minimize spreading of virus.

I guess you mean not following the health safety protocol/rules is why the disease issue is increasing again, hence the Enhanced Community Lockdown? I want to be sure you do not mean the Panic buying was as a result of not following the safety rules.  While reading your post, I thought the panic buying was as a result of the lockdown or fear of lockdown.

[DrBeer]

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

It is harder to convince pharma companies to bring drugs from USA to any other nation, even big rich nations, and harder for them to do that for nations poor like India. Reason for that is the fact that in USA the health sector is unregulated, people could buy all stocks of a drug and 4000x increase the price and sell and there is nothing stopping them doing it, whereas if you did that in any other nation government would literally seize your production and stop you from doing that.

This is why they rather sell something in USA for 300 dollars instead of 10 dollars in big nations and maybe 3 dollars in small nations, why would they lose that? However if they can produce a lot of it and there is vaccines not being sold enough in USA that would spill towards other nations, but that will take some time, which is why I doubt it would be anytime soon.

Pharmaceutical companies are not charitable organizations. Moreover, there are much more pharmaceutical companies than Pizer and 3-4 more that have developed a vaccine. Why don't the rest of us sit and make a vaccine and sell it for a penny? For example, you can take out loans from banks, create a pharmaceutical company, invent a vaccine for Covid and give it away for free - why not? You are ready ?
Whatever it was - but there is no reason to demand from those who were able to get the vaccine, at their own expense, to help everyone who did not comply with the conditions of quarantine, who did not make the slightest effort to fight Covid, and simply do charity work. Well, at least because their capabilities are also limited, and as a maximum - why should they help someone for free, spending on this invention of strength, time, health, money?

[Ultegra134]

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

It is harder to convince pharma companies to bring drugs from USA to any other nation, even big rich nations, and harder for them to do that for nations poor like India. Reason for that is the fact that in USA the health sector is unregulated, people could buy all stocks of a drug and 4000x increase the price and sell and there is nothing stopping them doing it, whereas if you did that in any other nation government would literally seize your production and stop you from doing that.

This is why they rather sell something in USA for 300 dollars instead of 10 dollars in big nations and maybe 3 dollars in small nations, why would they lose that? However if they can produce a lot of it and there is vaccines not being sold enough in USA that would spill towards other nations, but that will take some time, which is why I doubt it would be anytime soon.

Pharmaceutical companies are not charitable organizations. Moreover, there are much more pharmaceutical companies than Pizer and 3-4 more that have developed a vaccine. Why don't the rest of us sit and make a vaccine and sell it for a penny? For example, you can take out loans from banks, create a pharmaceutical company, invent a vaccine for Covid and give it away for free - why not? You are ready ?
Whatever it was - but there is no reason to demand from those who were able to get the vaccine, at their own expense, to help everyone who did not comply with the conditions of quarantine, who did not make the slightest effort to fight Covid, and simply do charity work. Well, at least because their capabilities are also limited, and as a maximum - why should they help someone for free, spending on this invention of strength, time, health, money?

Of course, pharmaceutical companies aren't a charity, they expect to make money from vaccines or any Covid-19 related medicine. We're supposedly paying for taxes, which includes health care and any pharmaceutical assistance we may need. Thus, the governments are paying for these vaccines through taxation, it isn't exactly free for its citizens.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Of course, pharmaceutical companies aren't a charity, they expect to make money from vaccines or any Covid-19 related medicine. We're supposedly paying for taxes, which includes health care and any pharmaceutical assistance we may need. Thus, the governments are paying for these vaccines through taxation, it isn't exactly free for its citizens.

Here in India, the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is mass produced by the Serum Institute of India (SII). In the beginning, they demanded the government that they should receive ₹1000 (around $13) per dose for the vaccine. But the government refused and after many rounds of hard negotiations, the price was fixed at ₹200 per dose (around $2.50). SII is not happy about it, but right now they can't do anything about it. On top of that, the government has also imposed export restrictions on the vaccines produced by SII, thereby further reducing their profits.

[CarnagexD]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

[Oilacris]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

Do you have some links that proves out this thing? This kind of accusation should really be at least have some solid back up on what you are saying here.

In corruption talks then we cant deny that PH is one on the list when it comes to this manner but its just really that too bad that they are even targetting out those funds which
should really be allocated with vaccine.

Why the hell they do consider on that 50% efficacy if there are other which are more better?

[BuNga_cute]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

Do you have some links that proves out this thing? This kind of accusation should really be at least have some solid back up on what you are saying here.

In corruption talks then we cant deny that PH is one on the list when it comes to this manner but its just really that too bad that they are even targetting out those funds which
should really be allocated with vaccine.

Why the hell they do consider on that 50% efficacy if there are other which are more better?

I agree that it is better to include evidence that the Philippine government is corrupt in relation to the purchase of vaccines. Because this is
a serious accusation in my opinion, but whether true or not the Philippine government is committing corruption. Very heartless, if somebody
use a situation like this to enrich yourself. Indeed, greed can turn people into heartlessness. But the accusations against the Philippine government
do make sense, why did they choose to buy Sinovac with 50% efficacy if there was something even better. This indeed needs to be investigated further.
In order to know the real reason the Philippine government chose Sinovac.

[Sithara007]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

Availability also needs to be take in to account. I guess Philippines was quite late to enter in to agreements with the vaccine manufacturers. All the "Western" vaccines (Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca/Oxford, Johnson & Johnson) are facing supply issues right now and whatever available supplies are there get gobbled up by the richer nations. That leaves just two options - Chinese vaccines (Sinovac Biotech with 50% efficacy, CanSino Biologics with 66% efficacy, and Sinopharm with 79% efficacy), or the Russian vaccine (Sputnik V with 92% efficacy). I guess the government went with the sole available choice, and it turned out to be Sinovac.

[rodskee]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

[bryant.coleman]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

Just another baseless accusation, I assume. Powerful circles are not happy with the Duterte regime and the Catholic church is very much pissed about his rule. If he made the vaccines available to ordinary people, then I guess the Filipinos should be thankful to him. Because a lot of nations are struggling to procure vaccines due to hoarding by USA, UK and some of the other richer nations. It is extremely difficult to procure vaccines right now, especially from Western manufacturers such as Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and AstraZeneca. 

[Ultegra134]

Inb4 in the Philippines the government is so incompetent even after taking a loan worth $400 million to specifically use for vaccine purchase, they still managed to let greed and corruption take over and had every private company/entity who will buy COVID vaccines to forcibly give half of what they purchased to the government, imagine that lmao. Not to mention the fact that they chose Sinovac with 50% efficacy and a huge markup price over cheaper and more effective alternatives all to lick Xi Jinping's bootsoles.

Availability also needs to be take in to account. I guess Philippines was quite late to enter in to agreements with the vaccine manufacturers. All the "Western" vaccines (Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca/Oxford, Johnson & Johnson) are facing supply issues right now and whatever available supplies are there get gobbled up by the richer nations. That leaves just two options - Chinese vaccines (Sinovac Biotech with 50% efficacy, CanSino Biologics with 66% efficacy, and Sinopharm with 79% efficacy), or the Russian vaccine (Sputnik V with 92% efficacy). I guess the government went with the sole available choice, and it turned out to be Sinovac.

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/31/merkel-macron-and-putin-sputnik-v-vaccine-eu

[Vishnu.Reang]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/31/merkel-macron-and-putin-sputnik-v-vaccine-eu

Sputnik V is embroiled in a lot of political controversy. Even here in India the government has so far refused to issue EUA for Sputnik V. They don't have any issues with the efficacy of the vaccine, but due to tensions with Russia, they don't want to approve it. When the situation is like this in India, you can imagine the case with the European Union. The European Medicines Agency (EMA) has refused to permit Sputnik V in Europe, once again purely due to political reasons. Christa Wirthumer-Hoche of EMA even threatened individual states against using the vaccine.

[Gyfts]

Maybe International pharma companies can help India out and deliver vaccines from USA? Eventually all people in USA should be vaccinated and then the export of vaccine doses can start. I find it kind of sad that there is no international approach to the vaccination process. Every country is on their own and is trying to out bid others. India has so many more people than USA and UK. A distribution based on population would be fair.

It is harder to convince pharma companies to bring drugs from USA to any other nation, even big rich nations, and harder for them to do that for nations poor like India. Reason for that is the fact that in USA the health sector is unregulated, people could buy all stocks of a drug and 4000x increase the price and sell and there is nothing stopping them doing it, whereas if you did that in any other nation government would literally seize your production and stop you from doing that.

This is why they rather sell something in USA for 300 dollars instead of 10 dollars in big nations and maybe 3 dollars in small nations, why would they lose that? However if they can produce a lot of it and there is vaccines not being sold enough in USA that would spill towards other nations, but that will take some time, which is why I doubt it would be anytime soon.

USA health sector is extremely regulated, and that regulation is what helps to contribute to higher prices.

It works very simply -- The US pays for all the R&D for any market drug or therapeutic because the company will sell it to the US market a huge mark up while other countries are quoted at a reasonable price. India is an unregulated mess where pharma companies go to manufacturer their drugs.

[Sithara007]

USA health sector is extremely regulated, and that regulation is what helps to contribute to higher prices.

It works very simply -- The US pays for all the R&D for any market drug or therapeutic because the company will sell it to the US market a huge mark up while other countries are quoted at a reasonable price. India is an unregulated mess where pharma companies go to manufacturer their drugs.

In the end, it is the US citizens who are losing out. The same medicine (from the same manufacturer) costs 10 times or more in the US when compared to the prices in Canada or Mexico. I have heard about people purchasing chemotherapy medicines from the dark market, because they can't afford to purchase it from the open market (despite the fact that it is extremely difficult to administer such drugs in your own). Biden administration should take steps to make medical care affordable to all (and Obamacare is not the answer).

[mamesso]

~Snip~ I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

Since the Covid-19 pandemic began, all our activities are very limited so that we have to shut ourselves up at a home. The main impact we have to face are financial problems.
Yeah, The pandemic really changed everything and makes us be always haunted by a fear of doing activities as usual, Moreover, we must comply with the lockdown rules set by the government.

I hope this pandemic ends soon, if not, maybe the impact will be much bigger than before, people affected by long-term anxiety, this can a much more serious mental health problem.
Do we still remember the SARS Outbreak, yeah, The SARS outbreak that occurred in 2003 was associated with a 30% increase in suicides in people over the age of 65.

Strategies to minimize the spread of viruses such as quarantine, vaccinations etc carried out by the government have not been fully effective, but what we have to do are maintain mental health and take advantage of free time to do hobby, exercise and looking for certain activities that can trigger satisfaction to relieve stress.

[bitgolden]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

[Ultegra134]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

One thing I definitely hate is conspiracy theorists, I hadn't seen flu or any other cause killing thousands' of people each day. I don't recall having 50-60-70 deaths in Greece daily, yet there are still some who believe in nonsense and are against vaccinations.

On the other hand, I get what you are saying, and I have the perfect example to present. We were put on lock down in 7th of November, having approximately 1,500 cases daily, for the first week of November (Late October was way lower). At the same time, we only had 170-180 patients in ICUs then, now we have over 750, and this number is expected to rise. Despite the current situation, the government is planning to ease the quarantine measures, in an effort to relieve the economy.

[Sithara007]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

Flu doesn't have a mortality rate of 2% to 4%. It normally have a mortality rate of less than 0.1% (and these deaths are almost exclusively limited to people who are above 80 years or age or those with multiple comorbidities). The argument that COVID 19 is no more harmful than flu has cost us around 2.84 million human lives till now. All sort of propaganda is being spread around, from comparing COVID 19 to flu, and demonizing the vaccines which are designed to protect humans against the virus.

[Kittygalore]

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

Let me guess you support the administration despite their incompetence in this pandemic? Yes they are doing their best but not on the right direction, they do their best on propaganda rather than helping the people and killing union leaders and activists by tagging them as communists. What do you mean aggressive? Imprisoning everyone who opposes them or killing innocents and planting evidences or not having any vaccine rollout because the president's cabinet is incompetent as to doing the paperwork so we didn't get the early arrival of vaccines? No need for evidence when you can see it happening right in front of your eyes.

[Myleschetty]

This is a serious accusation mate , Do you have concrete proof about this ? or just Media is what you are depending ?

The Duterte administration is doing their best to managed this Pandemic and still aggressive in doing everything right to end this Covid.

So giving this accusation means you must have a Deep intel to learn every details of this?

Let me guess you support the administration despite their incompetence in this pandemic?

I don't think he supports the administration cause it seems like he's trying to be fair here because this pandemic issue is not something the world is prepared for, experience it kind or something that happens small, it something that took the world by storm and every government body was all trapped and don't know what to do sometimes.

[Ultegra134]

I had recently read that there is discussion about importing and even producing the Russian Sputnik V, in Europe. If this actually happens, it would tackle any possible supply shortages, while having a high efficacy rate.

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

Flu doesn't have a mortality rate of 2% to 4%. It normally have a mortality rate of less than 0.1% (and these deaths are almost exclusively limited to people who are above 80 years or age or those with multiple comorbidities). The argument that COVID 19 is no more harmful than flu has cost us around 2.84 million human lives till now. All sort of propaganda is being spread around, from comparing COVID 19 to flu, and demonizing the vaccines which are designed to protect humans against the virus.

The worst scenario is that there are even doctors comparing Covid-19 with the regular flue. Especially in the early days of the pandemic, it was a really common occurrence. Were they regular conspiracy theorists, people who wanted recognition from the ignorant? Who knows. Noteworthy examples are John Ioannidis or Fedon Vovolis.

[jaberwock]

There were over 2.5 million dead people because of covid, you can't hide behind "even flu kills people" when there are over 2.5 million people dead in the world, and some countries are opting to go with their economics as the first priority over their own counties people.

It is obvious that people will do whatever they want and they will end up with a lot more cases for sure, you will see that numbers will increase like crazy very soon because of no lockdown yet for second wave, and it is a shame that people's lives are a political stunt for some government, how could you be okay with people dying and not a nice death neither, because you want to get some votes, sure voters could be idiots who want no masks that will make them die.

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

I know that makes no sense, why would anyone make people stay at home for 6 months but then let them move around the whole nation spreading it? Well that is because tourism is a big deal and people want to make profit from that, if you keep that restricted that would make politicians under threat of losing elections.

[Lorence.xD]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

[Ultegra134]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

The problem is that the governments are trying to balance public health with economy. We've been having a full lockdown here for six months, the economy here is probably doomed, leading to a 4th Memorandum after the pandemic ends. I believe that it is possible to balance the quarantine measures, only providing some degree of freedom, such as open retail and open restaurants/coffee shops, limited to their outdoor premises.

[AndySt]

It is not going as good as we hoped but we are nowhere near the levels we used to be, so we are doing better but not as good as we hoped we would, I guess for a few more months we will have some more but in the end we are going to lift it before summer, probably like May so that people could actually move around.

The problem is most governments do not listen to health experts like in my country, they don't seem to care about this pandemic because it doesn't really further their agenda and they are more on taking down their political opponents. Also, the people need to be disciplined because if they weren't then there is no point that there are health safety measures when no one follows it.

The problem is that the opinions of these experts may not coincide with each other and these experts may suggest opposite measures and also suggest different deadlines for taking measures. Therefore, governments can listen to the opinions of some experts and reject the opinions of others, by the way, very often depending on political preferences Governments have to act according to their capabilities, which may not match the proposals of experts, and the shortage of vaccines is one example. As for the discipline of people, I would like to say that patience and understanding of people have their limits, after which discipline and consciousness can fall significantly.

[Desmong]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

I think my country is quite different cos at the initial time covd19 emanated, things become difficult affecting the price of goods and services especially food stuffs and other basic amenities. That was the  first phase of convid 19 ranging from 12/03/2021 to 01/09/2021. During this period I almost go begging cause of high price of food and means to make money was frozen as a result of  serious restriction of movement.

The second phase of lock down was less severe maybe because of the repercussions of the first phase. Well I thank God that my country is not under any restriction again. Things have started going back to normal now, while the wise ones have started investing in skills acquisition that could help to avert the infliction of any further lockdown.
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[Sithara007]

I think my country is quite different cos at the initial time covd19 emanated, things become difficult affecting the price of goods and services especially food stuffs and other basic amenities. That was the  first phase of convid 19 ranging from 12/03/2021 to 01/09/2021. During this period I almost go begging cause of high price of food and means to make money was frozen as a result of  serious restriction of movement.

The second phase of lock down was less severe maybe because of the repercussions of the first phase. Well I thank God that my country is not under any restriction again. Things have started going back to normal now, while the wise ones have started investing in skills acquisition that could help to avert the infliction of any further lockdown.

You will hear similar stories from all around the world. Here in India, the lockdown was announced all of a sudden and people were given just a couple of hours to stock essential items. And the shopkeepers took advantage of this and increased the prices by 2x or 3x. The worst affected were migrant workers, who got stuck without any access to provisions. Many of them tried to return to their native villages by foot, walking for 1,000 or 1,500 km continuously.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

You will hear similar stories from all around the world. Here in India, the lockdown was announced all of a sudden and people were given just a couple of hours to stock essential items. And the shopkeepers took advantage of this and increased the prices by 2x or 3x. The worst affected were migrant workers, who got stuck without any access to provisions. Many of them tried to return to their native villages by foot, walking for 1,000 or 1,500 km continuously.

I might have to be a little bit thankful that this kind of situation didn't happen in my country, the problem in my country though is the people that hoards like Smaug of the essential items but other than that, the situation in my country and yours isn't that different, people from provinces got caught in the lockdown in cities focing them to walk or if they are lucky, get to hitch a ride from a government transport but that one is unlikely to happen.

[Alobo Realer]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

The pandemic has done lot of bad and good things in my country but in my local residence there was no lockdown yet price of things went up 45% and seems to remain up. Majority of the people switched from Crypto and Stock market investment to handwork and gambling.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

When it comes to financial, I admit I make an adjustment on how I will going to budget my money. Due to this pandemic our company required us to work from home. Due to that meal allowance and transportation allowance were cancelled. The salary to received per month as expected willnow lessen plus the company does not provide electricity and internet allowance. My head aches thinking that our salary was lessen but there are additional expenses. In that case, I decided to home on our province then give up the dorm. If I am in my province, no dorm to pay anymore this decision helps me alot when it comes to financial.

[JoMarrah Iarim Dan]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

When it comes to financial, I admit I make an adjustment on how I will going to budget my money. Due to this pandemic our company required us to work from home. Due to that meal allowance and transportation allowance were cancelled. The salary to received per month as expected will now be lessen plus the company does not provide electricity and internet allowance. My head aches thinking that our salary was lessen but there are additional expenses. In that case, I decided to go home on our province then give up the dorm. If I am in my province, no dorm to pay anymore. This decision helps me alot when it comes to financial aspects.

But I gained a lot of mental issues. I encountered stress on workloads, required 2 hours OT everyday, required multiple saturday works, slow internet connections when I needed it the most, and shortage of electricity. Well we can do a timeshift, I can work 12Mid to 9AM since internet connection is fast during those time but it is not enough to finish the tasks given. I really wanted to quit the job but thinking that it is pandemic period and finding another job will be difficult so I have no choice but to participate in OTs and Saturday works and wait until those projects were already finished. After that I got a reward, I have a long holiday break, that was a total of 3 weeks break. I am so happy. I got a chance to recharge and get myself back.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I might have to be a little bit thankful that this kind of situation didn't happen in my country, the problem in my country though is the people that hoards like Smaug of the essential items but other than that, the situation in my country and yours isn't that different, people from provinces got caught in the lockdown in cities focing them to walk or if they are lucky, get to hitch a ride from a government transport but that one is unlikely to happen.

In most of the countries, the lockdown was imposed in a phased manner and that gave migrants enough time to make the travel arrangements. However in India, the lockdown was imposed all of a sudden and that made it very difficult for most people to make travel arrangements, or to stock up essential items. Anyway, I am glad that there were not many human casualties despite the fact that the restrictions were imposed in a haphazard manner.

[sapnu]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

This pandemic stole away many individuals living, ever since it started lots of business and institutions unwillingly shut down. In my case, considering how poor our country is and their response to this pandemic, nothing's getting better. You can see lots of families here dying not only because of the virus but also because of famine. As people lose their jobs and businesses, the government continues to give off a very poor performance leading the pandemic to worsen. Lockdown has been unending ever since and the only thing the government is doing is updating the citizens of the active counts without even providing an effective solution. Mental health is also being forgotten and it's a really unfortunate life that you ended up existing on this kind of country where hope's slowly fading away day by day.

[Bizoran]

The pandemic totally changes everything and makes us see the world as a different thing but one thing I understand about complying with the total lockdown and dealing with the financial and the mental repercussions caused by the pandemic/lockdown is that it better to stay alive than get kill by the virus.
The only way I depressed about the financial and mental repercussions is by taking an online class and looking for an online job that will bring something good for me. In the meantime, the Greece government ought to make a huge step in getting the virus vaccine.

Yes, because of this coronavirus, there has been a lockdown for this epidemic of corona virus all over the world and the world has changed a lot for this lockdown. The economic and mental conditions have changed a lot, especially education. Every country has taken initiative to make up for this loss.  I think it would have been a good initiative to take the class. It would have been better if all the countries had arranged online jobs in the midst of this lockdown. Now the world has started applying the most common vaccine. Hopefully, the acquaintance will return to normal.

[matchi2011]

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

When it comes to financial, I admit I make an adjustment on how I will going to budget my money. Due to this pandemic our company required us to work from home. Due to that meal allowance and transportation allowance were cancelled. The salary to received per month as expected willnow lessen plus the company does not provide electricity and internet allowance. My head aches thinking that our salary was lessen but there are additional expenses. In that case, I decided to home on our province then give up the dorm. If I am in my province, no dorm to pay anymore this decision helps me alot when it comes to financial.

You really needed to adjust just to make sure that your finances still capable to survive you during this pandemic, glad that
from where am I, the company who required to WFH set up provides internet allowance.

But same with you, the monthly salary is more lesser as those perks like meal and transpo allowance has been removed, better
than nothing though, and thankful still since the company did not close completely.

[hahay]

Lockdown doesn't have any impact for me personally and even I see people around me have no problem with it, even though recently my area is marked as a high spread of COVID-19 cases but in fact, my colleagues and I are still free to go anywhere, even to the point of go on vacation. The impact of the lockdown that was felt for me was only at the beginning because even though the lockdown was re-enforced, I think everything can still run normally, until I go to work, it's just that everyone has to adhere to the Covid protocol such as still wearing a mask.

[Ultegra134]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

This pandemic stole away many individuals living, ever since it started lots of business and institutions unwillingly shut down. In my case, considering how poor our country is and their response to this pandemic, nothing's getting better. You can see lots of families here dying not only because of the virus but also because of famine. As people lose their jobs and businesses, the government continues to give off a very poor performance leading the pandemic to worsen. Lockdown has been unending ever since and the only thing the government is doing is updating the citizens of the active counts without even providing an effective solution. Mental health is also being forgotten and it's a really unfortunate life that you ended up existing on this kind of country where hope's slowly fading away day by day.

Unfortunately, such a pandemic is new to most of the world, especially European Countries. It's expected to impose wrong measures to tackle the pandemic. However, we've already faced it in March, our government at least should have learned from it and not repeat the same mistakes. We're on lockdown for 6 months now, while there's no light at the end of the tunnel. Almost no action has been taken to reinforce hospitals, and when they did, it was already too late.

[hulla]

The pandemic totally changes everything and makes us see the world as a different thing but one thing I understand about complying with the total lockdown and dealing with the financial and the mental repercussions caused by the pandemic/lockdown is that it better to stay alive than get kill by the virus.
The only way I depressed about the financial and mental repercussions is by taking an online class and looking for an online job that will bring something good for me. In the meantime, the Greece government ought to make a huge step in getting the virus vaccine.

Yes, because of this coronavirus, there has been a lockdown for this epidemic of corona virus all over the world and the world has changed a lot for this lockdown. The economic and mental conditions have changed a lot, especially education. Every country has taken initiative to make up for this loss.  I think it would have been a good initiative to take the class. It would have been better if all the countries had arranged online jobs in the midst of this lockdown. Now the world has started applying the most common vaccine. Hopefully, the acquaintance will return to normal.

It will be long before the acquaintance will return to normal because the damage done by the virus is not small and none of the current vaccines developed were authorized for use by WHO which mean we still have a long way to go. Meanwhile, it will be good if country arrange online jobs but online jobs is still not good for all job classification.

[Sithara007]

Unfortunately, such a pandemic is new to most of the world, especially European Countries. It's expected to impose wrong measures to tackle the pandemic. However, we've already faced it in March, our government at least should have learned from it and not repeat the same mistakes. We're on lockdown for 6 months now, while there's no light at the end of the tunnel. Almost no action has been taken to reinforce hospitals, and when they did, it was already too late.

There is no point in imposing the lockdowns now. During the initial phases, the lockdowns enabled governments enough time to prepare for the pandemic. But right now there will be more harm than good, if the lockdowns are imposed again. Citizens need to take adequate precautions, by wearing masks and maintain social distancing. Until they do these, there is no point in imposing new restrictions. Another extended period of lockdown may end up decimating the global economy.

[Ultegra134]

Unfortunately, such a pandemic is new to most of the world, especially European Countries. It's expected to impose wrong measures to tackle the pandemic. However, we've already faced it in March, our government at least should have learned from it and not repeat the same mistakes. We're on lockdown for 6 months now, while there's no light at the end of the tunnel. Almost no action has been taken to reinforce hospitals, and when they did, it was already too late.

There is no point in imposing the lockdowns now. During the initial phases, the lockdowns enabled governments enough time to prepare for the pandemic. But right now there will be more harm than good, if the lockdowns are imposed again. Citizens need to take adequate precautions, by wearing masks and maintain social distancing. Until they do these, there is no point in imposing new restrictions. Another extended period of lockdown may end up decimating the global economy.

That's the point, lockdown was imposed in order to prepare for the next wave of the pandemic, however, this didn't really happen in Greece. Summer passed without taking and precautions to face the next wave that we'd have to come across during winter. On the meantime, emergency funding was given to the church, TV channels and other corporations such as Aegean Airlines.

[DrBeer]

Unfortunately, such a pandemic is new to most of the world, especially European Countries. It's expected to impose wrong measures to tackle the pandemic. However, we've already faced it in March, our government at least should have learned from it and not repeat the same mistakes. We're on lockdown for 6 months now, while there's no light at the end of the tunnel. Almost no action has been taken to reinforce hospitals, and when they did, it was already too late.

There is no point in imposing the lockdowns now. During the initial phases, the lockdowns enabled governments enough time to prepare for the pandemic. But right now there will be more harm than good, if the lockdowns are imposed again. Citizens need to take adequate precautions, by wearing masks and maintain social distancing. Until they do these, there is no point in imposing new restrictions. Another extended period of lockdown may end up decimating the global economy.

That's the point, lockdown was imposed in order to prepare for the next wave of the pandemic, however, this didn't really happen in Greece. Summer passed without taking and precautions to face the next wave that we'd have to come across during winter. On the meantime, emergency funding was given to the church, TV channels and other corporations such as Aegean Airlines.

The state always supports corporations, large industrial companies, because of their greater importance for the country's economy, and a certain position of the state as a "hostage" in front of large structures. But churches and other, specific structures, as for me, are stupid to support, they already have huge preferences and special conditions for taxation. Rather, it is a game and flirting with parishioners, which can be a "tool" for creating chaos and disorder.

[Vishnu.Reang]

That's the point, lockdown was imposed in order to prepare for the next wave of the pandemic, however, this didn't really happen in Greece. Summer passed without taking and precautions to face the next wave that we'd have to come across during winter. On the meantime, emergency funding was given to the church, TV channels and other corporations such as Aegean Airlines.

LOL.. I can understand emergency funding being given to airlines (the aviation sector is in pretty bad shape right now). I don't think that providing funding to TV channels is necessary, but even that is OK to an extent. But what is the point in providing funding to churches at this point, when a lot of people are out of work? That money could have been used for providing food and essential items to those who need them. Religion was created to help the humans, and not to create additional burden for them.

[Ultegra134]

That's the point, lockdown was imposed in order to prepare for the next wave of the pandemic, however, this didn't really happen in Greece. Summer passed without taking and precautions to face the next wave that we'd have to come across during winter. On the meantime, emergency funding was given to the church, TV channels and other corporations such as Aegean Airlines.

LOL.. I can understand emergency funding being given to airlines (the aviation sector is in pretty bad shape right now). I don't think that providing funding to TV channels is necessary, but even that is OK to an extent. But what is the point in providing funding to churches at this point, when a lot of people are out of work? That money could have been used for providing food and essential items to those who need them. Religion was created to help the humans, and not to create additional burden for them.

I could also justify Airline emergency funding to an extent, providing that other sectors were funded too. There hasn't been any actual funding in order to support the National Healthcare system, only a few ICU beds were added at most since the previous lockdown on March 2020.

The past lockdown was supposed to be a lesson to gear up for what would come during the winter months, while no proper action was taken, we were idle the whole summer, and we're currently going through the worst phase of the pandemic.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I could also justify Airline emergency funding to an extent, providing that other sectors were funded too. There hasn't been any actual funding in order to support the National Healthcare system, only a few ICU beds were added at most since the previous lockdown on March 2020.

The past lockdown was supposed to be a lesson to gear up for what would come during the winter months, while no proper action was taken, we were idle the whole summer, and we're currently going through the worst phase of the pandemic.

I guess the European nations are better prepared for this winter, because almost half of the population has been fully vaccinated. I am more worried about the countries in the northern hemisphere where the vaccination rate has been low - such as India and Russia. With the entry of more contagious strains of the virus, this winter is going to be disastrous for these countries. The trick is to vaccinate as many as possible, before the winter sets in. And in this regard, India is moving in the right direction, while Russia is not.

[Ultegra134]

I could also justify Airline emergency funding to an extent, providing that other sectors were funded too. There hasn't been any actual funding in order to support the National Healthcare system, only a few ICU beds were added at most since the previous lockdown on March 2020.

The past lockdown was supposed to be a lesson to gear up for what would come during the winter months, while no proper action was taken, we were idle the whole summer, and we're currently going through the worst phase of the pandemic.

I guess the European nations are better prepared for this winter, because almost half of the population has been fully vaccinated. I am more worried about the countries in the northern hemisphere where the vaccination rate has been low - such as India and Russia. With the entry of more contagious strains of the virus, this winter is going to be disastrous for these countries. The trick is to vaccinate as many as possible, before the winter sets in. And in this regard, India is moving in the right direction, while Russia is not.

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.


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[Fortify]

Hello from Greece,
I'd like to discuss any repercussions that stem from Covid-19 response measures (Or lockdown depending on where you are), either Economical, Psychological or anything else you can think of.

We've been in lockdown since the early days of November, only retail has been reopened and even that isn't open in every region due to a rise of cases in them. Moreover, the recent surge of cases throughout the whole country might be leading to a 3rd lockdown (like it is much different from now). Definitely, the economic repercussions are huge throughout the world, since most countries have taken extreme measures in order to suppress the pandemic. However, the combination of financial depression and quarantine, could lead to clinical depression in a respectable percentage of the population.

Seeing it from my point of view, being in home, almost 24/7, while the supermarket or to the pharmacy being the only way out is depressing and driving me nuts. We can also go out for exercise/walking. I'm living in a region that is characterized as "Red zone", everything closes at 5.30 p.m, while we cannot leave the house after 6pm. My only escape is going out cycling every once in a while.

I'd like to discuss the financial and the mental repercussions of the pandemic plus, how do you cope with the Lockdown yourself?

I definitely agree with your comment about being trapped with limited options to go out. It has eased in my country, however there were some benefits really - it was great for the environment at the beginning as almost every car was off the road and the silence was blissful. It also made me and people in general re-evaluate what is really needed in life, many people became savers for the first time ever and stopped being as wasteful as they were in the past. It showed that the world could continue even if a lot of people were working from home which was hard to imagine on the same scale before - also highlighting the real core jobs required to keep society alive and especially the great work of the emergency services. It will get better slowly, let's just take the best parts and keep them as long as we can.

[emmybd]

The COVID19 pandemic and related economic crisis have brought huge challenges, brought many unknowns, and brought heartbreaking trade-offs. Both crises are global, but their impact is very local. The political response to these two crises must be swift, even if its edges are not balanced. But countries cannot act alone: ​​global crises require global solidarity and coordination.
 Governments should fundamentally review policies and invest in public health, economic stimulus, and social safety nets to help countries recover from the COVID19 pandemic more quickly. The economic report warned that the patchwork of existing solutions would not work, and pointed out that governments must coordinate with each other to accelerate recovery. He said that this is a global crisis, and fighting alone is not an option.

[konflikkastil]

The effect of covid-19 here can not be quantify at all, due the damage it has caused. The most important is the number of life that were lost due to the outbreak of the virus. Many people have become jobless, some have become homeless. And majority are laid off from their of work because the employer could no longer meet up the payment of their monthly salary. Personaly this virus has open to a lot of things that we ought to have been doing or probably might have foreseen before. Who would have thought that there is something that will hold the whole world ransom.

[Sithara007]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

[Xinarae*]

Russia has not reported any clinical trials of the vaccine typically millions of people are vaccinated in the third stage. The vaccine is released only after the results have been confirmed russia claims to have tested the vaccine on thousands of people the moscow based association of clinical trials organization requested the health ministry this week not to rush into the vaccine. The russian vaccine may not only be ineffective it may not be safe.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Russia has not reported any clinical trials of the vaccine typically millions of people are vaccinated in the third stage. The vaccine is released only after the results have been confirmed russia claims to have tested the vaccine on thousands of people the moscow based association of clinical trials organization requested the health ministry this week not to rush into the vaccine. The russian vaccine may not only be ineffective it may not be safe.

It is true that the EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for the Sputnik V vaccine was given before the phase III clinical trials were complete. But the results from these trials were published earlier this year, in the reputed medical journal, The Lancet. And the results showed that the vaccine has 91.6% efficacy against symptomatic COVID and almost 100% protection against hospitalization. And real-time data from Bahrain and Argentina shows that the vaccine has an efficacy of 94%-98% in the general population. Even single dose of Sputnik was shown to be having 84% efficacy against hospitalization from COVID 19.

[EvieLannister]

COVID-19 came too suddenly. At first, I didn't pay attention to it. I thought it would get better in a short time. In fact, I was wrong. More and more people are experiencing death, and everyone is afraid of not going out. I found that no one is hanging out on the street. Everyone is still very careful about life safety. At first, everyone was opposed to vaccines, but they were all carried out later. Vaccination. Because the COVID-19 economy has indeed fallen a lot, but there are also people who have the opportunity to enter the cryptocurrency market, leading to an increase in the demand for the crypto market.

[Tina H]

The epidemic has a great impact on my work. In this global situation, the daily increase in the number of European and American countries has a great impact on my work, because our company is a foreign trade cross-border e-commerce company. Under the influence of foreign epidemics, our orders have continued to decrease, and the company has begun to lay off employees. This has brought us a lot of pressure. After all, life is not easy for everyone, and the way of laying off staff makes me very worried. The impact of the epidemic on us is really too great, and I can't think of what will happen next.

[Nora Olin]

Because of the epidemic, he stayed at home and rarely went out. Before the epidemic, in addition to buying daily necessities and food, I took it at home all day long. Before the epidemic, I had no plans to go to work in some companies. Although stable, I am not satisfied with the salary. During the epidemic, many companies may disband directly, which is unacceptable. Now I will choose a relatively stable job and know my abilities.
It also has a great impact on life. There is no income, only expenditure. This has brought me a great burden. The experience of this incident should have caused many people to change their original consumption patterns and perceptions of things.

[DrBeer]

Russia has not reported any clinical trials of the vaccine typically millions of people are vaccinated in the third stage. The vaccine is released only after the results have been confirmed russia claims to have tested the vaccine on thousands of people the moscow based association of clinical trials organization requested the health ministry this week not to rush into the vaccine. The russian vaccine may not only be ineffective it may not be safe.

It is true that the EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for the Sputnik V vaccine was given before the phase III clinical trials were complete. But the results from these trials were published earlier this year, in the reputed medical journal, The Lancet. And the results showed that the vaccine has 91.6% efficacy against symptomatic COVID and almost 100% protection against hospitalization. And real-time data from Bahrain and Argentina shows that the vaccine has an efficacy of 94%-98% in the general population. Even single dose of Sputnik was shown to be having 84% efficacy against hospitalization from COVID 19.

Dear Vishnu.Reang!
I always respect others' opinions, even if it is contrary to my interests or my position. But in areas where distortion of information can lead to death - I will be forced, not for the first time, to remind you again - that the information you specified about a certain drug Sputnik 5 is distorted and unsafe. Let me give you the arguments again:
1. A certain drug (it cannot be called a vaccine until its action is proven) called Sputnik V, has not yet completed a full cycle of tests to recognize the vaccine as acceptable for use. At the same time, all attempts to obtain registration are more reminiscent of an attempt to push a low-quality product onto the market. The whole way of "pushing through" this drug is associated with systemic and mass lies, falsification, bribery. There is a lot of this information in open sources. Also, you cannot help but notice - the controlled, systemic anti-advertising of high-quality vaccines through the Russian media, including foreign ones. In 2020, there was just a wave of ordered materials about the allegedly high mortality rate from vaccines Pfizer, Modern, about the unacceptable level of side effects, etc. ... The customer of this wave of lies was the state system of Russia.
2. With regard to "publication in the Lancet". If you mentioned the publication, then do not forget to also talk about the ensuing scandal and investigation, which revealed a huge number of violations and inconsistencies in the preparation of this article. I even previously gave you links to these facts! The data that Lancet cited was fabricated and provided to a significant extent by the developer company, without the actual fact of conducting tests and actually obtaining indicators.
3. "data from Bahrain" - I already gave you a link to the website of the Ministry of Health of Bahrain, where nothing is written about that they conducted any tests, but there is only an article that provides information not from the Ministry of Health of Bahrain but from the Russian Direct Foundation investments (a company engaged in "pushing" Sputnik 5 to the markets of other countries, a stakeholder). Excerpt from the article:
Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), said:
“Sputnik V has demonstrated efficacy of 94.3% and high safety confirming the data collected in a number of other countries where it is used to protect the population against coronavirus. The Russian vaccine is an important part of Bahrain's diversified national portfolio. Use of Sputnik V is making a significant contribution in mitigating the spread of coronavirus, resuming normal life and economic activity. "
 - what did you expect to hear from a company that tries to sell this drug by all possible methods (including lies and manipulation of data) !? And if you read the website of the Ministry of Health of Bahrain, you will not find a single mention of this profile structure giving such information!

Considering the above - please do not mislead people by "advertising" a very dubious drug. If someone decides to take this drug, whose effectiveness is not really known, and a person dies from the action of the vaccine or because of its inaction, for example, hoping that he has immunity after Sputnik 5, he will cease to adhere to the rules of epidemiological safety and become infected with Covid and die - you will be guilty if not directly then indirectly. Think about it! Maybe it would be more logical to recommend those vaccines that really passed all the necessary testing procedures, showed a really high level of effectiveness? Isn't that more logical than keeping silent about really effective drugs, while actively describing the "benefits of Sputnik 5" that have not yet been proven?

PS as soon as the drug receives official certification and confirms its effectiveness - I will definitely write about this myself, and apologize for mistrusting the device in the past. But that's if he really can get certified

PS A question for you to think about. Please tell me - can wild tribes living in the jungle suddenly take and start producing airplanes? I think no. And it is logical to assume that the problem is that their knowledge in this area is simply not enough, and many views contradict the theory of flight. Is everything logical? OK.
Now a little information - Russia only a couple of years ago learned to produce ordinary insulin for diabetics. The drug has been studied far and wide, and has been produced by almost the whole world for many decades. Have this fact been recorded? Excellent !
And now the question is: can a country with such a lag in production technologies, almost primitive drugs, suddenly jump one step higher and develop the most complex vaccine? Would like to hear your thoughts on this situation?

[Snappycoco]

Russia has not reported any clinical trials of the vaccine typically millions of people are vaccinated in the third stage. The vaccine is released only after the results have been confirmed russia claims to have tested the vaccine on thousands of people the moscow based association of clinical trials organization requested the health ministry this week not to rush into the vaccine. The russian vaccine may not only be ineffective it may not be safe.

Agreed. As long as WHO didn't approve its use, it should not be deployed to any country. I have heard that my country (Philippines) already used it but im being skeptical about it. However, in terms of Vaccines made by gamaleya, it is proven that this company is quite good. They made vaccines for ebola and according to their website the use of Human Adenovirus stabilised SARS-CoV-2 spikes immunogen which is verified by some organisation.

Ad26-vector based COVID-19 vaccine encoding a prefusion stabilized SARS-CoV-2 Spike immunogen induces potent
humoral and cellular immune responses

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.30.227470v1

[Ngemmeng]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

[monineklutak]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

It's true what you say is also happening in Indonesia they are spreading false news about the impact of vaccines on our bodies,
Of course this is very disturbing because some people believe in it,
After all, the government of each country needs to overcome this so as not to cause chaos

[bryant.coleman]

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

In Russia, there is widespread opposition to the government and in general there is a lot of distrust with the authorities. And this distrust didn't appeared all of a sudden. It has been there since the 1920s, when the communists came to power. After the fall of communism, the regimes that succeeded the communists were even worse (Yeltsin first, and then Putin). And I can't blame them really, because the Putin regime is like a giant mafia. Anyway, in the end it is always the ordinary people who are going to suffer.

[conected]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

- It is also not completely fake information, articles and statistics about reinfection and death because vaccinations are still real, explaining this situation is that each person's body will react differently, the body of many people will reject the antibody, some have other diseases in the body combined with vaccination, it has promoted the disease condition to become more serious. Maybe some people are malicious when releasing controversial information to create confusion, but in fact, vaccination does not give an absolute calculation, there is still a fairly small error.

[Vishnu.Reang]

It is also not completely fake information, articles and statistics about reinfection and death because vaccinations are still real, explaining this situation is that each person's body will react differently, the body of many people will reject the antibody, some have other diseases in the body combined with vaccination, it has promoted the disease condition to become more serious. Maybe some people are malicious when releasing controversial information to create confusion, but in fact, vaccination does not give an absolute calculation, there is still a fairly small error.

Each and every medication has side effects. And the vaccines for COVID 19 are no exception to this. Even the most effective vaccines, such as Pfizer and Moderna have side effects, although in healthy people without comorbidities it never progress to serious complications. Pfizer has reported serious adverse effects at 0.002%-0.005%. The only serious complication I heave heard with the Pfizer vaccine is a study from Israel, which claimed that it causes an increase in cases of myocarditis, especially for those who are aged above 80.

[Ultegra134]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

I've seen similar responses from Russian members, however, I haven't understood why. Are Russians skeptical of the Sputnik V vaccine, or vaccines in general? Is Russia offering other vaccines, such as Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson? Unfortunately, such percentages are depressing and will lead to further austerity measures to tackle the pandemic the following winter.

[DrBeer]

A few words about the Russian laboratory producing "super drugs", the author of "Sputnik" and "the world's first vaccine against the Ebola virus." I mean, the Gamaleya Research Center.
Sit back, now we will find out what reality looks like. And then each of you will be able to check the veracity of this information in open sources.
Fact 1. Throughout its work, namely the last 15 years, this center has systematically failed the development of drugs based on the vector method, and over the past 11 years has not been able to introduce a single vector vaccine. Checking is extremely simple!
Fact 2. An example with a simpler drug, an anti-flu vaccine. In mid-2010, at the N.I. The Gamalees made such an attempt (remember the year). And even the drug "GamFluVac" was "invented". But like the previous and next "developments", this drug also did not enter the Russian and world markets due to the fact that the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation does not consider it safe. Clinical trials have been going on for two years ...
Fact 3. Vaccine against the Ebola virus. The venture attempted to develop a vaccine against the Ebola virus in 2014, when an epidemic of the disease broke out in Africa. Two years later, in February 2016, Putin announced the registration of a Russian drug for the Ebola virus, which was perceived in the world as a sensation, since no one had been able to cope with it before. The head of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation, Skvortsova, presented two types of substances in Geneva - "GamEvac" and "GamEvac-Combo". However, the documents about the clinical trials were never received by WHO, and the drugs were not allowed to vaccinate the population during new outbreaks in Africa. They are still undergoing international clinical trials with no apparent hope of recognition. It is noteworthy that the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation registered Ebola vaccines back in December 2015 without records of the results of clinical trials. These notes appeared later, they were brought in retroactively under the serial numbers of completely different studies. In addition, in 2015, there were no decisions of the Ethics Council of the Ministry of Health, without which drugs are not allowed to research.
Fact 4. The fourth attempt at the Research Institute. Gamaleya, to produce something that actually worked was work on a vaccine against the Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS-CoV, or MERS-cov). This disease is also caused by a new coronavirus. It was first diagnosed in 2012 in Saudi Arabia, and since then in 27 countries, including Europe.
In May this year, in an interview with Channel One, the director of the Institute. Gamalei Gunzburg said that he created a vaccine against MERS-cov (the closest relative of SARS-cov2) a year and a half ago. At the same time, the World Health Organization stated in 2020: "Currently, there is no specific drug or vaccine for this disease." And the cherry on the cake - there is no clinically proven effect of this supposedly Gamaleya vaccine, as well as the results of human trials. It is not registered by the Ministry of Health and is unknown to the world scientific community ...
Fact 5. The task for the development of a vaccine against COVID-19 issued by the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation to the Institute. Gamalei April 20, 2020. A month later (!!!!) Alexander Gintsburg announced the readiness of the drug and said that it was tested on employees. At an April meeting with Putin, he said that the covid vaccine was the fruit of the institute's work on previous drugs, and at the same time asked for 1.5 billion to bottle the vaccine on the premises of the Institute. Gamalei. About how they are trying to slip some dubious data - you already know, as you probably know that not so long ago, another, and obviously not the last, scandal broke out - when a party came to Slovakia, allegedly Sputnik V, but in fact it turned out there it is unclear what does not correspond to the pharmacological description from the manufacturer.
Fact 6. The Gamaleya Institute has the only implemented development - the BCG vaccine. It is not vector. And a few words about BCG: short for Bacillus Kalmet - Guerin, fr. Bacillus Calmette — Guérin, BCG) is a tuberculosis vaccine prepared from a strain of weakened live bovine tuberculosis bacillus (Mycobacterium bovis), which has practically lost its virulence for humans, having been specially grown in an artificial environment.
That is, they did not DEVELOP, but simply repeated the vaccine previously developed by other people!

The question is - would you allow your child or your parents to be injected with a drug developed by such a "super company"?

[Sithara007]

I've seen similar responses from Russian members, however, I haven't understood why. Are Russians skeptical of the Sputnik V vaccine, or vaccines in general? Is Russia offering other vaccines, such as Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson? Unfortunately, such percentages are depressing and will lead to further austerity measures to tackle the pandemic the following winter.

Russians are offering other vaccines, but these are vaccines produced inside Russia (and those which are yet to complete their Phase III trials). One of them is EpiVacCorona from the Vector Research institute. CoviVac from the Chumakov Center is another vaccine that is being administered. And I don't think that it is possible to get a shot using the Pfizer, Moderna or Janssen vaccines, as they are not approved inside Russia. The ordinary Russians (those who can't afford to travel to EU to get vaccinated) have a difficult choice - either they need to take Sputnik V or the other local vaccines, or they need to remain unvaccinated. Many of them are opting for the latter.

[DrBeer]

I've seen similar responses from Russian members, however, I haven't understood why. Are Russians skeptical of the Sputnik V vaccine, or vaccines in general? Is Russia offering other vaccines, such as Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson? Unfortunately, such percentages are depressing and will lead to further austerity measures to tackle the pandemic the following winter.

Russians are offering other vaccines, but these are vaccines produced inside Russia (and those which are yet to complete their Phase III trials). One of them is EpiVacCorona from the Vector Research institute. CoviVac from the Chumakov Center is another vaccine that is being administered. And I don't think that it is possible to get a shot using the Pfizer, Moderna or Janssen vaccines, as they are not approved inside Russia. The ordinary Russians (those who can't afford to travel to EU to get vaccinated) have a difficult choice - either they need to take Sputnik V or the other local vaccines, or they need to remain unvaccinated. Many of them are opting for the latter.

In russia, only Sputnik V and Sputnik Light, Kovivak and Epivakkorona are allowed. For normalization - none of them have been approved by the WHO yet.

List of vaccines approved by WHO
Moderna, Pfizer / BioNTech, Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca, Sinopharm, Covishield, Sinovac.

Vaccines approved by WHO, banned for import in russia.

[Ucy]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

It's true what you say is also happening in Indonesia they are spreading false news about the impact of vaccines on our bodies,
Of course this is very disturbing because some people believe in it,
After all, the government of each country needs to overcome this so as not to cause chaos

Wonder what kind of news people spread in the country about the vaccines. Are you sure there aren't some truth in them? I hardly hear people complain about the their bodies reaction to the vaccine thesedays compared to the early stage of the vaccination, maybe they are becoming scared of what people would say considering how hostile some are becoming toward the vaccine fear mongers.
A cousin once complained seriously in the early stages after her vaccination, but these days people just say everything is fine even before you finish asking them how they felt after taking the vaccine.

[perryxi2]

Since the outbreak of the pandemic until now, my country has used a ban on social distancing for 14 days and then another 14 days, a lot of checkpoints stop people from traveling on the highway and no matter who they are. must also stay at home , unless you buy essential food and without good reason you will be severely fined.

[Ultegra134]

I just stumbled upon this photo. You can easily notice that most European countries are doing relatively well, except for most Balkan countries, except Greece. Unfortunately, Russia, founder of the Sputnik vaccine, isn't doing so well.

Russian users have already explained this. There is a lot of hesitancy in Russia against the vaccine and they are probably the only country where there is an oversupply of the COVID vaccine. If I am not wrong, less than 20% have received at least one dose of the vaccine in Russia. On the other hand, countries like Argentina mostly rely on vaccines imported from Russia, and they have managed to achieve a vaccination rate of close to 50%. And the rates haven't improved in Russia, despite the recent spike in infections/deaths.

one of the barriers to vaccination is the amount of fake news circulating in the community. there is a lot of fake news deliberately created by irresponsible people so that people are afraid to receive vaccines. maybe this is what is happening in Russia right now, and of course it is also happening in many other countries.

It's true what you say is also happening in Indonesia they are spreading false news about the impact of vaccines on our bodies,
Of course this is very disturbing because some people believe in it,
After all, the government of each country needs to overcome this so as not to cause chaos

Wonder what kind of news people spread in the country about the vaccines. Are you sure there aren't some truth in them? I hardly hear people complain about the their bodies reaction to the vaccine thesedays compared to the early stage of the vaccination, maybe they are becoming scared of what people would say considering how hostile some are becoming toward the vaccine fear mongers.
A cousin once complained seriously in the early stages after her vaccination, but these days people just say everything is fine even before you finish asking them how they felt after taking the vaccine.

There's a lot of conspiracy theories around vaccinations, I'm seeing it here in Greece too, and trust me, it's a real issue, which is halting vaccinations. I think we're close to reaching the maximum capacity, new vaccination rates have fallen over 50-60%. That's a concerning issue, because at least for Greece, we only have 55% of fully vaccinated people over 18 years old.