Solved by sportbet

[wildan88]

@DireWolfM14

Stop with your circus talk!
You are paid by Sportsbet to post here. Nobody is taking your nonsense talk serious anymore.

@aziamio7
You should not dispose your KYC here on the forum.
KYC can be easily solved by a skype call with sportsbet where you hold your passport for example, then it is 100% that you are the real person.
Right now Sportsbet.io is only looking for excuses not to pay, and they must pay you.

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[DireWolfM14]

It's quite surprising to me why are you pushing to just believe what Steve said. If OP agrees with Steve and there are no arguments then why will we ask to Steve come here to explain? But seems OP doesn't agree with Steve. Of course, there would be questions for both, not only for Steve.

I was afraid I would be misinterpreted.  I am not pushing to just believe Steve, but I am suggesting that we don't just believe the newbie either.  Mostly I'm suggesting we keep things in perspective, look at the big picture.  

Why the KYC documents become suspicious or fake once win or withdraw funds? I don't know the way how they verify nor I need to know. But a few questions would be raised like this. Why the system wouldn't identify fake documents during KYC verification or during generate a deposit address since they could detect it upon withdrawals or wining?

KYC docs aren't required to have an account on sportsbet.  They haven't asked me to provide mine.  If they suspect cheating or other fraudulent activity, they will require documents before they allow a withdrawal.  I suspect they are also beholden to adhere to AML laws, so certain amounts that are withdrawn by users from certain countries will also trigger the need for KYC documents.

@DireWolfM14 I can understand your feelings and beliefs my friend. But it would be nice if you be realistic with the situation. Immediate decline the scam allegation due to it has created by newbies and the platform is well established isn't a good example IMO.

I think we should stop arguments with each other until we hear from the authorized person from Sportsbet.io. We can't reach any stage of conclusion without them. Seems Steve is active today and I believe he will come here and explain everything since a problem has occurred.

Again, I'm not suggesting we deny every scam accusation against sportsbet nor ignore the claims of newbies.  I am suggesting we keep things in perspective.  You yourself suggesting that we be patient and wait until Steve responds, but then you red-tag him because he's taking too long for your liking.  To me that doesn't look like keeping things in perspective, or being patient.

And I agree about this back and forth being pointless.  You and I won't be able to solve this issue, and like you said, we need to wait and be patient to learn more.

[Slow death]

I think Steve should show these documents that they say are false, for that it is enough to choose a member of the DT that is from the country where the document that they say is false belongs to and that member of the DT will tell us if the document is really false or true.

This is not a good idea. I do not think any DT member should get their hands on any user's documents.

There isn't a good resolution to the he said/they said problem of casino vs. player.

I agree that it is a very dangerous and risky idea, but without a third party to get involved in this conflict it will be difficult to find a solution. because there is always a TOS who is a god for gambling sites and casinos and on the other side there is always a smart guy who breaks this TOS and it is difficult to know who is telling the truth

@ wildan88 gave a good suggestion, although I don’t support much of what he says, in this part I think his idea could be a good solution

I need present my KYC reports here? Anybody on the world can confirm my NID from government site. Here is site: https://services.nidw.gov.bd/nid_info

I'm agree to submit selfie with NID card to demonstrate that is my NID card. Advise me to whom I need to send. If my NID card confirmed here, I need back my money. If my NID card become fake, I will pull out my allegation.

now we have to wait and see what Sportsbet.io will say

[sempak]

The skype conversation could be an easy and useful solution.
Still i want to know how a bookmaker can be so sure about a double account since most IP addresses are dynamically these days.
It could happen easily you will get the IP address from somebody else in your street in a few days. So how can you be so sure it is a double account?
You can only jump to this conclusion when you undergo the KYC procedure in a strict way, then everything is solved.

[Cacingkemi]

The skype conversation could be an easy and useful solution.
Still i want to know how a bookmaker can be so sure about a double account since most IP addresses are dynamically these days.
It could happen easily you will get the IP address from somebody else in your street in a few days. So how can you be so sure it is a double account?
You can only jump to this conclusion when you undergo the KYC procedure in a strict way, then everything is solved.

Sportsbet owns to much power on the forum here. As soon as you want to give them  red tag, they write it on their telegram group and enough people will make sure they oppose the card.
DireWolfM14 is a moron that works for sportsbet and will always defend them. And people like hem have a DT status, they can not be touched.

[actmyname]

As soon as you want to give them  red tag, they write it on their telegram group and enough people will make sure they oppose the card.

Do you have proof of this or is this just fantasy? If you don't, then why bother saying it at all?

I agree that it is a very dangerous and risky idea, but without a third party to get involved in this conflict it will be difficult to find a solution. because there is always a TOS who is a god for gambling sites and casinos and on the other side there is always a smart guy who breaks this TOS and it is difficult to know who is telling the truth

What happens if cases like these become more common?

There are a few avenues I can think of directly:

• The casino is increasingly selectively scamming
• Casino exploiters are increasingly being restricted with reason
• A combination of both

If you want to have DefaultTrust users intervening every time one of these cases comes up and inevitably ends in, "you broke ToS" (look at past casino cases and see how many have this result), then you've basically pushed the issue of "who do I believe" to just the DefaultTrust users and the very limited evidence they would be provided by the casino.

I'm not comfortable with DefaultTrust users getting their hands on all this stuff. They would either have to be extremely, extremely trustworthy, or you run the risk of the casinos potentially adding in DT bodies to support their side. Call it an extension of the "reputable party performing selective scamming" tactic.

Still i want to know how a bookmaker can be so sure about a double account since most IP addresses are dynamically these days.

FYI your browser has a fingerprint and you are vulnerable in other ways. You probably want to check that out.

[sportsbet.io]

Thread has been created for almost 10 days. Although there is 2 reply from Steve but no solution. Steve said he is in a touch with the OP but seems OP telling Steve stopped replying after etched of a few messages. If OP's accusation is wrong them Steve should provide the appropriate reasons and evidence to prove this wrong. Ignoring wouldn't be a solution at all. Since the accusation in public, then resolution should be public as well.

I am tagging Sportsbet.io since they stopped replying here (but active). Will be removed after solving the issue or prove the accusation is wrong.

Hi guys, apologies for the delay here.

As the user has rightly stated, I have been in contact with him personally.

I have asked several questions directly and repeatedly and I am not getting the information returned that I believe to be a truthful response.

Anyone can supply a KYC document for themselves and it can be cleared. Unfortunately, that is not the basis of the money removal case here.

Previously our relevant department approached the user to clarify some questions regarding other accounts that we are rightly concerned about. the information we received was not in line with the information we have on hand.

I will give the user one last chance to help himself.I need some solid information to go back to my company and overturn this decision. Until then, I don't have enough correct information on my side to change the result as it stands.

I hope to get a resolution by the end of the week.

regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

[wildan88]

What a trashtalk. Pay him his money!

[gadado]

What a trashtalk. Pay him his money!

That s how it usually goes. They have many accounts who work for them which have a high DT status. In that way, they never get into problem. Good example is Direwolf14, but there are many others.

[Adzivu]

Why don't you guys tell adkinsbet to pay me or other users that are scammed by them?
You could do that but you are promoting that site and don't want to lose the money they are paying you.

[TwitchySeal]

Has an official adkins rep bet been made aware of the way their sig campaign members have been acting?

They pull the same crap with other casinos also and it's obvious they wouldn't be making any of these attacks if they weren't in the sig campaign. If anything this ultimately does more damage to Adkins reputation (and their own) than the people they attack.

Edit:  Ok just found the The AdkinsBET Army of Alts thread.  Way to put a ton of effort into destroying your own reputation Adkins!

[eddie13]

Well they said you're breaching their rule 17.1 so check that out.



If you were banned from there before and you made another account to evade that ban, they will block your new account too.

Placing arbitrage bets, depositing money that came from an address flagged as associated with illegal activity (I suppose this is to stop scammers from "playing" or just mixing with their stolen money) and running a gambling script to cheat Sportsbet are also reasons they'd close your account.

i am not a VPN user. I have no more sportsbet account. Their team member is liar. Please help me.

What is your connection between you and tipu365, robin365, monir777 and MDABDUS, your alleged alt accounts?

17.1 could be used as an excuse not to pay out to anyone..

Didn’t mix your coins? They probably have some taint..
Mixed your coins? Suspicion of money laundering..

[sportsbet.io]

Hi all,

UPDATE:

After being in contact with Aziamio7 this week we have reversed the decision to withhold the funds of his account.

Aziamio7 has been fully paid back and he will update the forum when he gets a chance.

As you would expect, details of our investigations and discussions via PM will not be made public due to security and personal request reasons.

thanks and regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

[aziamio7]

Hi all,

UPDATE:

After being in contact with Aziamio7 this week we have reversed the decision to withhold the funds of his account.

Aziamio7 has been fully paid back and he will update the forum when he gets a chance.

As you would expect, details of our investigations and discussions via PM will not be made public due to security and personal request reasons.

thanks and regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

Sportsbet and I agreed to a full payout - details will not be discussed and the matter is now closed. Got my Money.

Thanks all for your support and special thanks to Coolcryptovator.

[CLS63]

Hi all,

UPDATE:

After being in contact with Aziamio7 this week we have reversed the decision to withhold the funds of his account.

Aziamio7 has been fully paid back and he will update the forum when he gets a chance.

As you would expect, details of our investigations and discussions via PM will not be made public due to security and personal request reasons.

thanks and regards,

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

As far as I can see, sportsbet.io are trying their best to solve the problems of their customers. It is very important for a bet website. I appreciate it very much as a bitcointalk user.

[The Cryptovator]

Thanks, Steve for solving the issue. Feedback has been removed as well since both of you agreed to closed this case. However, I think we can solve such issues through constructive discussion. Silence or blind arguments wouldn't be a solution anyway. I can't say you are wrong those support Sportsbet, but I will appreciate it if you be more constructive based on the situation, beliefs would be wrong sometimes. I don't know both of your's (Sportsbet & OP) inside the discussion, but I will suggest both identify your lacks and correct them to avoid such issues in the future.

@OP, you can marked 'solved' in the topic title since you stated it solved.