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This post is for reference for the accounts promoting the AdkinsBET sportsbook that appears to be scamming their clients. The service was launched here on November 17 th, 2020. Since then there have been six scam accusation. The first one, which was posted in December appears to have been solved. Between January 11 and January 16, 5 more appeared. Some DT members feel that the accusations bear merit, and have thus red-tagged the main AdkinsBET account. Here's a list of the scam accusations I've found on the board: [SOLVED] Adkinsbet scammed me 66.3mbtadkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help!Adkinsbet.com PURE SCAM!SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant wayAdkinsbet .com scam 210mBTCAdkinsbet SCAMAnn Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0Bitcointalk.org Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882335
But, this thread isn't so much meant to discuss the scam accusations. Each has it's own thread, and the accuracy of the accusations is yours to evaluate. No, this thread is mostly about the accounts currently wearing the AdkinsBET signature and avatar. The same day the Ann thread was posted, a signature campaign was launched: Signature Campaign Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290386.0Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EPsU9S6tea_gJvYQPU0wcobnSLH5uFuaK8UhDG-FQ8Q/edit?usp=sharingBut apparently it only ran for one week. On the first day of the second week of the campaign the manager posted this announcement: PSA:
Effective immediately this campaign has been put on Hold. Adkinsbet informed me today that they have been under extensive DDos attacks and as such they want to pause the campaign until they've been able to solve all the issues and secure the website. Hopefully you all understand and I apologize if this seems to come out a bit late.
I believe the campaign will continue from next week which means that all of you can who are currently in can take part then again, for now you can remove your Signature & Avatar though. Despite the fact that the signature campaign ended after a week, and hasn't been active since, there are eleven high ranking accounts that continue to wear the AdkinsBET banners. Mind you that only two of these accounts were selected for the campaign, and the other nine have never been paid to advertise for AdkinsBET. My suspicion is that all of these accounts (with the possible exception of Savemore) are accounts that were purchased by AdkinsBET for the sole purpose of promoting the service. There seems to be a pattern with the accounts. Notice that most have had their passwords changed in August or October of 2020, just a few months before the service was announced. Most seem to have similar posting styles. And most have been active within the last week. It seems quite odd to me that all these high ranking accounts would promote, for free, a service that has been found to have valid scam accusations. All of these peculiarities only bolster my suspicions. Only someone planning a scam would buy a bunch of high ranking alts (one with green-trust) for the intention of using them to promote his service. That alone seems shady enough for a red-tag.
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How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account? Similar password change times on BPIP though I haven't investigated in detail. It doesn't matter to me whether they are alts or not: either they are shills or they are blindly ignorant.
Defending the site to such a degree after having seen everything else must be a fatal exercise of cognitive dissonance or stupidity if it's not entangled with malice.
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Reserved.
Note to the DT1 Trolls:
I make no claims of any connections, this is just to examine the observation made by the OP of similar dates when the passwords etc of those named in the first post were changed.
So, let's look at those dates shall we?
12/23/2018 7:19:43 PM password changed BlackFor3st 2/26/2019 6:37:31 AM password changed BlackFor3st 2/26/2019 6:49:45 AM password changed BlackFor3st
10/1/2019 5:52:06 AM woke up Savemore
4/16/2020 11:49:34 AM password reset via email gadado 4/16/2020 1:03:35 PM password changed gadado
5/12/2020 8:52:52 AM woke up BitcoinAccepted 5/14/2020 6:49:24 PM password changed BlackFor3st
6/11/2020 2:44:29 AM woke up sempak
8/4/2020 8:48:25 AM password changed sempak
8/9/2020 9:26:28 AM password changed wildan88 8/10/2020 7:01:15 AM password changed MI6
8/16/2020 10:58:22 AM password changed kkaroul4
8/23/2020 10:58:59 AM password reset via email coin.princess 8/23/2020 10:59:14 AM woke up coin.princess
10/5/2020 6:09:11 PM password changed coin.princess 10/6/2020 11:07:06 AM password reset via email BitcoinAccepted 10/6/2020 11:34:08 AM password changed BitcoinAccepted
10/31/2020 11:51:48 AM password changed Cacingkemi
There are a couple of instances of Merit swapping between these named UID's also.
None of the UID's Default Trust any other users (or each-other)
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How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account? I'm just leaving this here: 2021-02-13 Sat 09.46hsource: loyce.club2583 Active. ( Support | Oppose) realscout flagged AdkinsBET (type 3, see why). Supported by LoyceV, examplens, dbshck, actmyname, marlboroza, stompix, JollyGood, El duderino_, Royse777, Steamtyme, DireWolfM14, ScamViruS, GazetaBitcoin, icopress, FatFork, CryptoYar, TheUltraElite, RapTarX, NotATether, scammed-by-nitro, LEVSKI7, h4ns, barbaron, realscout, Maasdamer, oz.kashi, nikica99, Adzivu. Opposed by BlackFor3st, ronaldo40, wildan88, sempak, Cacingkemi, BitcoinAccepted, MI6, deadthings, aomakun, BTCGOLD, imutlinda, cutesgirl, codegnome, coin.princess.
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How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account? I'm just leaving this here: 2021-02-13 Sat 09.46hsource: loyce.club2583 Active. ( Support | Oppose) realscout flagged AdkinsBET (type 3, see why). Supported by LoyceV, examplens, dbshck, actmyname, marlboroza, stompix, JollyGood, El duderino_, Royse777, Steamtyme, DireWolfM14, ScamViruS, GazetaBitcoin, icopress, FatFork, CryptoYar, TheUltraElite, RapTarX, NotATether, scammed-by-nitro, LEVSKI7, h4ns, barbaron, realscout, Maasdamer, oz.kashi, nikica99, Adzivu. Opposed by BlackFor3st, ronaldo40, wildan88, sempak, Cacingkemi, BitcoinAccepted, MI6, deadthings, aomakun, BTCGOLD, imutlinda, cutesgirl, codegnome, coin.princess. That's better, I can actually read it now. Looks like the majority of those who oppose the Flag are the ones the OP mentions in their OP as being the same ones who are backing the project. It certainly raises more flags (no pun intended)
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I suspect, if they are Alt accounts from the AdkinsBET site, chances are that the accounts have been bought and sold, as said by: @JollyGood: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1016855I saw at the beginning some of the accounts were used by Indonesians. Currently their posts are mostly on gambling boards. If I glanced at one of them, let's call it a name: @Cacingkemi. Also has several other Alt accounts. For example:2. Accounts Connected: Cacingkemi, sanerin, jeosanerinProof: Using multi accounts | Bitcoin address | 127CuUNbaPXWqPPn9h9JpAaVoxHoRm5rHz Related Addresses: 127CuUNbaPXWqPPn9h9JpAaVoxHoRm5rHz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152000.msg51386455#msg51386455I think they bought it on purpose, just to install the AdkinsBET sig. Rather than paying participants per week in $$$. Guess.
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I think they bought it on purpose, just to install the AdkinsBET sig. Rather than paying participants per week in $$$. Guess. Consider: if you have alternate accounts under your control, rather than the signature campaign participants merely indirectly promoting your product, you can start posting en masse in certain threads and boards to advertise even when the ANN thread is locked away. People who don't know about the situation can easily ignore one shill but if you have a large number of them, that sentiment is hard to unstick from your biases - I'm certain that when the main thread was buzzing with activity, the handful of posts distracting from the accusations helped to swayed opinion to some degree. At this point, the negative feedback may have triggered the "point of no return" where they all shift to blatant shadiness after having been exposed. Who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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We can see a subset of those who opposed the flag (i.e. discounting those already named by the OP), of which we see contained in the subset a group who for whatever reason changed their passwords within days of each-other on a number of occasions: (and within days/hours of the other subset a couple of times)
4/10/2018 7:04:33 PM password changed BTCGOLD 4/22/2018 3:04:32 PM password changed BTCGOLD
5/17/2018 9:02:49 PM password changed codegnome
7/14/2018 9:57:30 AM password changed BTCGOLD
10/12/2018 1:12:16 AM password changed codegnome
1/5/2019 3:35:45 AM password changed codegnome 1/6/2019 3:35:45 AM password changed codegnome
12/8/2019 1:22:44 PM password changed deadthings
9/24/2019 12:44:51 PM woke up cutesgirl
2/6/2020 3:35:29 PM password changed deadthings
8/16/2020 3:30:13 PM password changed ronaldo40
9/24/2020 8:21:40 AM password changed codegnome 9/25/2020 2:35:29 PM password changed deadthings 9/25/2020 2:38:58 PM password changed deadthings 9/28/2020 1:25:05 PM password changed BTCGOLD
10/21/2020 9:21:33 AM password changed cutesgirl
11/2/2020 3:13:55 PM password changed aomakun 11/7/2020 3:36:28 PM password changed imutlinda
There has been merit swapping within this subset and across to the other subset too.
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February 14, 2021, 11:17:13 AM Merited by DireWolfM14 (1) |
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I created a thread about this a couple of weeks ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313867.0~AdkinsBET ~aomakun ~BitcoinAccepted ~BlackFor3st ~BTCGOLD ~Cacingkemi ~codegnome ~coin.princess ~cutesgirl ~deadthings ~gadado ~imutlinda ~jollyg00d ~MI6 ~nasipadang ~ongkok87 ~pranjicka ~ronaldo40 ~sempak ~wildan88
This was the state of their sock-puppet Last Active timings in the run up to them using 7 different logins to post in that thread before they locked it.
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February 14, 2021, 06:05:10 PM Last edit: February 14, 2021, 08:55:42 PM by LFC_Bitcoin |
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Their army of shills are now bumping 4 year old threads that have been resolved - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1863248.0Adkins don’t even have an active representative here (he ran away because he couldn’t handle the heat). They don’t have an active campaign yet there are multiple shills wearing their sig, spamming & trolling. It’s very likely that the accounts wearing their sig are purchased with the sole intention of creating drama. I don’t know why the mods don’t just nuke all Adkins sig wearers. They’re adding nothing constructive to the forum. Edit - The link I posted above. A mod has now removed the bump post made by Adkins shill gadado. The point stands though, their trolls are all over the place shilling & shit posting.
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February 14, 2021, 10:10:24 PM Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (3) |
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Their army of shills are now bumping 4 year old threads that have been resolved Their activity shouldn't be of any surprise, at least it isn't to me, they publicly announced a month ago that they will come after Sportsbet and Bitcasino. To be sure that Sportsbet.io, together with Bitcasino.io, will now also receive the necessary attention ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You can be sure about that. That is going to be interesting. Take a look at the accounts that first supported this flag (this was approximately 7 months ago), do you recognize any of them? yayayo, BlackFor3st, VanityWallets2015, gadado, and the very well-known gosha@e-coin. It’s very likely that the accounts wearing their sig are purchased with the sole intention of creating drama. I don't think there is any doubt that all those accounts are purchased, but to be here only for the sake of creating drama, yeah i don't know. High-ranked accounts usually cost money, the time, the dedication...there has to be money involved in some way, right? I know i can't prove anything, so this is purely speculation (or not), but i believe various services are being offered by the people behind those accounts, including and not limited to: smear campaigns, blackmailing, protection, thread-bumping, etc...this sounds crazy sure, but at the same time i think i'm not that far away from the truth either. ps. (the above is a 10-month long observation, not just random thoughts gathered in a minute, ever since that gosha@e-coin showed up here).
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I found it interesting that on January 31st the following ad appeared on another site: https://www.playerup.com/threads/wts-bitcointalk-org-accounts-5-legendary-1-hero-16-full-member.4879487/Selling bitcointalk.org accounts. No negative trust. Available: 5 x Legendary (500$ in BTC/ETH) 1 x Hero (350$ in BTC/ETH) 16 x Full Member (150$ in BTC/ETH) Sold: 0 x Legendary 0 x Hero 0 x Full Member I accept escrow (middleman). Scammers, don't even try to trick me and waste my time. Please leave a comment below if you have bought an account from me. Thank you! It would appear they are done with the army.
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Yea, I noticed this group of army from the scam accusation board. They are attacking a few casino/betting sites. They just didn't stop by spamming there. They are trying to scam newbies as well, contacting newbies victims via forum PM to solve the problem. But they aren't authorized to solve any issue related to that accusation. Seems most of them received negative feedback, and I believe it's appropriate based on their current behavior. I am pretty sure all accounts had changed hands or bought.
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I know i can't prove anything, so this is purely speculation (or not), but i believe various services are being offered by the people behind those accounts, including and not limited to: smear campaigns, blackmailing, protection, thread-bumping, etc...this sounds crazy sure, but at the same time i think i'm not that far away from the truth either.
ps. (the above is a 10-month long observation, not just random thoughts gathered in a minute, ever since that gosha@e-coin showed up here).
I'm reasonably sure Adkinsbet purchased these accounts mainly to smear competing casinos, specifically Sportsbet.io (EDIT: I am now 100% sure this is the case after seeing them just now bump multiple Sportsbet scam accusation threads in a short amount of time). Unlike them they're a small casino so maybe instead of competing fairly the owners want to trip and shove aside everyone else running the marathon instead of trying to run faster. (EDIT2: The fact that they bump at the same time using different usernames which all happen to be logged in reinforces that a single person controls them all. The question is who? Putting 2+2=4 signals that some guy at Adkinsbet was paid to buy all these accounts - because who the fuck would spend their own pocket money on trolling?) Gosha is different because its fairly easy to figure out that GP bought it. These accounts were all in numerous different signature campaigns before they went dormant so maybe someone can inspect their sig campaign payouts to see if they go through a funnel, which would be a dead giveaway given that we're dealing with 8+ accounts here. I'm pretty sure that one guy was controlling the whole farm, otherwise how do half a dozen people get butthurt all at the same time and one of them agrees to register the username jollyg00d after the real JollyGood exposed his farm and Adkinsbet? It would appear they are done with the army.
Those accounts being sold over there likely aren't the Adkinsbet stormtroopers(™️) because the ones we're talking about have DT red trust.
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February 15, 2021, 05:53:21 PM |
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At this point their posting can be considered as trolling. It’s constant, bumping old threads, shit posting, off topic. I don’t see why mods don’t nuke them.
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February 15, 2021, 06:05:33 PM Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (1) |
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At this point their posting can be considered as trolling. It’s constant, bumping old threads, shit posting, off topic. I don’t see why mods don’t nuke them. It's actually very, very difficult to get banned on this forum unless you are doing some insane spam or trolling. The only reliable method is to copy-paste something. Did you know that many of the users that have hundreds of posts deleted for spam are still running around as if nothing happened? Just keep reporting if there are rules being broken. It'll be a measure of the moderator patience vs. shill patience: which do you think will run out first?
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February 15, 2021, 06:26:47 PM |
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I never knew anything about that website, never even heard of it. So that is one of the places where people go to buy accounts registered in this forum either single or in bulk. I wonder what sort of money these sellers have made over the years for farming these accounts only to sell on later...
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February 15, 2021, 07:11:44 PM |
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Just got information from sportbet owners reply that Adkinsbet is leaving the forum. Although i don't believe that they will really do it but chances is higher that they will make another entry with new name. After getting caught with fraudulent activity they are now trying to attack other gambling platforms and a group of accounts are involved in this. I don’t know actually what they are trying to gain by doing something like that but no doubt that they are following wrong way.
Thanks DireWolfM14 for detecting the group and sharing all their accounts information here. You may forgot to add the flag link on your main topic.
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February 15, 2021, 07:28:17 PM |
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Ah, this is the things behind the scene. Now I can understand why adskinbet's ann thread had got a huge response/bumped in a short period. (Which is very unrealistic if I compare with others.) Just got information from sportbet owners reply that Adkinsbet is leaving the forum. Although i don't believe that they will really do it but chances is higher that they will make another entry with new name.
There are very chance to do that. Since It was planned so I think they have already something made to make new entry in this forum. Btw thanks OP for doing this fantastic investigation. now I thought is totally changed about adskinbets.
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February 15, 2021, 10:51:33 PM |
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Adkinsbet locked their ANN topic and they are leaving bitcointalk forum, so it will be interesting to see what is going to happen with all those accounts who still have their signatures and avatars and if they will still be active. Someone lost a lot of money purchasing all those accounts that are now ruined and I am not sure why they are now targeting Sportsbet. Do you remember who else targeted Sportsbet all the time? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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