The AdkinsBET Army of Alts

[DireWolfM14]

This post is for reference for the accounts promoting the AdkinsBET sportsbook that appears to be scamming their clients.  The service was launched here on November 17^th, 2020.  Since then there have been six scam accusation.  The first one, which was posted in December appears to have been solved.  Between January 11 and January 16, 5 more appeared.  Some DT members feel that the accusations bear merit, and have thus red-tagged the main AdkinsBET account.

Here's a list of the scam accusations I've found on the board:

[SOLVED] Adkinsbet scammed me 66.3mbt
adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help!
Adkinsbet.com PURE SCAM!
SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way
Adkinsbet .com scam 210mBTC
Adkinsbet SCAM

Ann Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0
Bitcointalk.org Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882335

But, this thread isn't so much meant to discuss the scam accusations.  Each has it's own thread, and the accuracy of the accusations is yours to evaluate.  No, this thread is mostly about the accounts currently wearing the AdkinsBET signature and avatar.

The same day the Ann thread was posted, a signature campaign was launched:

Signature Campaign Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290386.0
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EPsU9S6tea_gJvYQPU0wcobnSLH5uFuaK8UhDG-FQ8Q/edit?usp=sharing

But apparently it only ran for one week.  On the first day of the second week of the campaign the manager posted this announcement:

PSA:

Effective immediately this campaign has been put on Hold. Adkinsbet informed me today that they have been under extensive DDos attacks and as such they want to pause the campaign until they've been able to solve all the issues and secure the website. Hopefully you all understand and I apologize if this seems to come out a bit late.

I believe the campaign will continue from next week which means that all of you can who are currently in can take part then again, for now you can remove your Signature & Avatar though.

Despite the fact that the signature campaign ended after a week, and hasn't been active since, there are eleven high ranking accounts that continue to wear the AdkinsBET banners.  Mind you that only two of these accounts were selected for the campaign, and the other nine have never been paid to advertise for AdkinsBET.

My suspicion is that all of these accounts (with the possible exception of Savemore) are accounts that were purchased by AdkinsBET for the sole purpose of promoting the service.  There seems to be a pattern with the accounts.  Notice that most have had their passwords changed in August or October of 2020, just a few months before the service was announced.  Most seem to have similar posting styles.  And most have been active within the last week.

It seems quite odd to me that all these high ranking accounts would promote, for free, a service that has been found to have valid scam accusations.  All of these peculiarities only bolster my suspicions.  Only someone planning a scam would buy a bunch of high ranking alts (one with green-trust) for the intention of using them to promote his service.  That alone seems shady enough for a red-tag.

Username	BPIP	Recent PWC	Rank
BitcoinAccepted	BPIP	10/6/2020	Legendary
BlackFor3st	BPIP	5/14/2020	Hero
gadado	BPIP	4/16/2020	Hero
coin.princess	BPIP	10/5/2020	Senior
wildan88	BPIP	8/9/2020	Legendary
sempak	BPIP	8/4/2020	Hero
MI6	BPIP	8/10/2020	Hero
Cacingkemi	BPIP	10/31/2020	Hero
kkaroul4	BPIP	8/16/2020	Senior
Savemore	BPIP	10/1/2019	Senior
AdkinsBET	BPIP	N/A	Member

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[actmyname]

How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account? Similar password change times on BPIP though I haven't investigated in detail.It doesn't matter to me whether they are alts or not: either they are shills or they are blindly ignorant.

Defending the site to such a degree after having seen everything else must be a fatal exercise of cognitive dissonance or stupidity if it's not entangled with malice.

[Timelord2067]

Reserved.


Note to the DT1 Trolls:

I make no claims of any connections, this is just to examine the observation made by the OP of similar dates when the passwords etc of those named in the first post were changed.

So, let's look at those dates shall we?

12/23/2018 7:19:43 PM    password changed   BlackFor3st
2/26/2019 6:37:31 AM    password changed   BlackFor3st
2/26/2019 6:49:45 AM    password changed   BlackFor3st

10/1/2019 5:52:06 AM    woke up         Savemore

4/16/2020 11:49:34 AM    password reset via email gadado
4/16/2020 1:03:35 PM    password changed   gadado

5/12/2020 8:52:52 AM    woke up       BitcoinAccepted
5/14/2020 6:49:24 PM    password changed   BlackFor3st

6/11/2020 2:44:29 AM    woke up         sempak

8/4/2020 8:48:25 AM    password changed   sempak

8/9/2020 9:26:28 AM    password changed   wildan88
8/10/2020 7:01:15 AM    password changed   MI6

8/16/2020 10:58:22 AM    password changed   kkaroul4

8/23/2020 10:58:59 AM    password reset via email   coin.princess
8/23/2020 10:59:14 AM    woke up         coin.princess

10/5/2020 6:09:11 PM    password changed   coin.princess
10/6/2020 11:07:06 AM    password reset via email BitcoinAccepted
10/6/2020 11:34:08 AM    password changed    BitcoinAccepted

10/31/2020 11:51:48 AM    password changed   Cacingkemi


There are a couple of instances of Merit swapping between these named UID's also.


None of the UID's Default Trust any other users (or each-other)

[LoyceV]

How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account?

I'm just leaving this here:

2021-02-13 Sat 09.46h
source: loyce.club

2583 Active. (Support | Oppose) realscout flagged AdkinsBET (type 3, see why). Supported by LoyceV, examplens, dbshck, actmyname, marlboroza, stompix, JollyGood, El duderino_, Royse777, Steamtyme, DireWolfM14, ScamViruS, GazetaBitcoin, icopress, FatFork, CryptoYar, TheUltraElite, RapTarX, NotATether, scammed-by-nitro, LEVSKI7, h4ns, barbaron, realscout, Maasdamer, oz.kashi, nikica99, Adzivu. Opposed by BlackFor3st, ronaldo40, wildan88, sempak, Cacingkemi, BitcoinAccepted, MI6, deadthings, aomakun, BTCGOLD, imutlinda, cutesgirl, codegnome, coin.princess.

[Timelord2067]

How about the other users opposing the flag on the casino account?

I'm just leaving this here:

2021-02-13 Sat 09.46h
source: loyce.club

2583 Active. (Support | Oppose) realscout flagged AdkinsBET (type 3, see why). Supported by LoyceV, examplens, dbshck, actmyname, marlboroza, stompix, JollyGood, El duderino_, Royse777, Steamtyme, DireWolfM14, ScamViruS, GazetaBitcoin, icopress, FatFork, CryptoYar, TheUltraElite, RapTarX, NotATether, scammed-by-nitro, LEVSKI7, h4ns, barbaron, realscout, Maasdamer, oz.kashi, nikica99, Adzivu. Opposed by BlackFor3st, ronaldo40, wildan88, sempak, Cacingkemi, BitcoinAccepted, MI6, deadthings, aomakun, BTCGOLD, imutlinda, cutesgirl, codegnome, coin.princess.

That's better, I can actually read it now.

Looks like the majority of those who oppose the Flag are the ones the OP mentions in their OP as being the same ones who are backing the project.  It certainly raises more flags (no pun intended)

[YOSHIE]

I suspect, if they are Alt accounts from the AdkinsBET site, chances are that the accounts have been bought and sold, as said by: @JollyGood: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1016855

I saw at the beginning some of the accounts were used by Indonesians.
Currently their posts are mostly on gambling boards.

If I glanced at one of them, let's call it a name: @Cacingkemi.
Also has several other Alt accounts.
For example:

2. Accounts Connected: Cacingkemi, sanerin, jeosanerin

Proof: Using multi accounts | Bitcoin address | 127CuUNbaPXWqPPn9h9JpAaVoxHoRm5rHz

Related Addresses: 127CuUNbaPXWqPPn9h9JpAaVoxHoRm5rHz

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152000.msg51386455#msg51386455

I think they bought it on purpose, just to install the AdkinsBET sig.
Rather than paying participants per week in $$$.
Guess.

[actmyname]

I think they bought it on purpose, just to install the AdkinsBET sig.
Rather than paying participants per week in $$$.
Guess.

Consider: if you have alternate accounts under your control, rather than the signature campaign participants merely indirectly promoting your product, you can start posting en masse in certain threads and boards to advertise even when the ANN thread is locked away.

People who don't know about the situation can easily ignore one shill but if you have a large number of them, that sentiment is hard to unstick from your biases - I'm certain that when the main thread was buzzing with activity, the handful of posts distracting from the accusations helped to swayed opinion to some degree. At this point, the negative feedback may have triggered the "point of no return" where they all shift to blatant shadiness after having been exposed. Who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Timelord2067]

We can see a subset of those who opposed the flag (i.e. discounting those already named by the OP), of which we see contained in the subset a group who for whatever reason changed their passwords within days of each-other on a number of occasions:  (and within days/hours of the other subset a couple of times)


4/10/2018 7:04:33 PM    password changed   BTCGOLD
4/22/2018 3:04:32 PM    password changed   BTCGOLD

5/17/2018 9:02:49 PM    password changed   codegnome

7/14/2018 9:57:30 AM    password changed   BTCGOLD

10/12/2018 1:12:16 AM    password changed   codegnome

1/5/2019 3:35:45 AM    password changed   codegnome
1/6/2019 3:35:45 AM    password changed   codegnome

12/8/2019 1:22:44 PM    password changed   deadthings

9/24/2019 12:44:51 PM    woke up         cutesgirl

2/6/2020 3:35:29 PM    password changed   deadthings

8/16/2020 3:30:13 PM    password changed   ronaldo40

9/24/2020 8:21:40 AM    password changed   codegnome
9/25/2020 2:35:29 PM    password changed   deadthings
9/25/2020 2:38:58 PM    password changed   deadthings
9/28/2020 1:25:05 PM    password changed   BTCGOLD

10/21/2020 9:21:33 AM    password changed   cutesgirl

11/2/2020 3:13:55 PM    password changed   aomakun
11/7/2020 3:36:28 PM    password changed   imutlinda


There has been merit swapping within this subset and across to the other subset too.

[JollyGood]

I created a thread about this a couple of weeks ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313867.0



~AdkinsBET
~aomakun
~BitcoinAccepted
~BlackFor3st
~BTCGOLD
~Cacingkemi
~codegnome
~coin.princess
~cutesgirl
~deadthings
~gadado
~imutlinda
~jollyg00d
~MI6
~nasipadang
~ongkok87
~pranjicka
~ronaldo40
~sempak
~wildan88




This was the state of their sock-puppet Last Active timings in the run up to them using 7 different logins to post in that thread before they locked it.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Their army of shills are now bumping 4 year old threads that have been resolved -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1863248.0

Adkins don’t even have an active representative here (he ran away because he couldn’t handle the heat).
They don’t have an active campaign yet there are multiple shills wearing their sig, spamming & trolling.

It’s very likely that the accounts wearing their sig are purchased with the sole intention of creating drama.

I don’t know why the mods don’t just nuke all Adkins sig wearers. They’re adding nothing constructive to the forum.

Edit - The link I posted above. A mod has now removed the bump post made by Adkins shill gadado.
The point stands though, their trolls are all over the place shilling & shit posting.

[morvillz7z]

Their army of shills are now bumping 4 year old threads that have been resolved

Their activity shouldn't be of any surprise, at least it isn't to me, they publicly announced a month ago that they will come after Sportsbet and Bitcasino.

To be sure that Sportsbet.io, together with Bitcasino.io, will now also receive the necessary attention  You can be sure about that. That is going to be interesting.

Take a look at the accounts that first supported this flag (this was approximately 7 months ago), do you recognize any of them? yayayo, BlackFor3st, VanityWallets2015, gadado, and the very well-known gosha@e-coin.

It’s very likely that the accounts wearing their sig are purchased with the sole intention of creating drama.

I don't think there is any doubt that all those accounts are purchased, but to be here only for the sake of creating drama, yeah i don't know. High-ranked accounts usually cost money, the time, the dedication...there has to be money involved in some way, right?

I know i can't prove anything, so this is purely speculation (or not), but i believe various services are being offered by the people behind those accounts, including and not limited to: smear campaigns, blackmailing, protection, thread-bumping, etc...this sounds crazy sure, but at the same time i think i'm not that far away from the truth either.

ps. (the above is a 10-month long observation, not just random thoughts gathered in a minute, ever since that gosha@e-coin showed up here).

[gatsby60]

I found it interesting that on January 31st the following ad appeared on another site:

https://www.playerup.com/threads/wts-bitcointalk-org-accounts-5-legendary-1-hero-16-full-member.4879487/

Selling bitcointalk.org accounts. No negative trust.

Available:

5 x Legendary (500$ in BTC/ETH)
1 x Hero (350$ in BTC/ETH)
16 x Full Member (150$ in BTC/ETH)

Sold:

0 x Legendary
0 x Hero
0 x Full Member

I accept escrow (middleman). Scammers, don't even try to trick me and waste my time.

Please leave a comment below if you have bought an account from me.

Thank you!


It would appear they are done with the army.

[The Cryptovator]

Yea, I noticed this group of army from the scam accusation board. They are attacking a few casino/betting sites. They just didn't stop by spamming there. They are trying to scam newbies as well, contacting newbies victims via forum PM to solve the problem. But they aren't authorized to solve any issue related to that accusation. Seems most of them received negative feedback, and I believe it's appropriate based on their current behavior. I am pretty sure all accounts had changed hands or bought.

[NotATether]

I know i can't prove anything, so this is purely speculation (or not), but i believe various services are being offered by the people behind those accounts, including and not limited to: smear campaigns, blackmailing, protection, thread-bumping, etc...this sounds crazy sure, but at the same time i think i'm not that far away from the truth either.

ps. (the above is a 10-month long observation, not just random thoughts gathered in a minute, ever since that gosha@e-coin showed up here).

I'm reasonably sure Adkinsbet purchased these accounts mainly to smear competing casinos, specifically Sportsbet.io (EDIT: I am now 100% sure this is the case after seeing them just now bump multiple Sportsbet scam accusation threads in a short amount of time). Unlike them they're a small casino so maybe instead of competing fairly the owners want to trip and shove aside everyone else running the marathon instead of trying to run faster.

(EDIT2: The fact that they bump at the same time using different usernames which all happen to be logged in reinforces that a single person controls them all. The question is who? Putting 2+2=4 signals that some guy at Adkinsbet was paid to buy all these accounts - because who the fuck would spend their own pocket money on trolling?)

Gosha is different because its fairly easy to figure out that GP bought it.

These accounts were all in numerous different signature campaigns before they went dormant so maybe someone can inspect their sig campaign payouts to see if they go through a funnel, which would be a dead giveaway given that we're dealing with 8+ accounts here.

I'm pretty sure that one guy was controlling the whole farm, otherwise how do half a dozen people get butthurt all at the same time and one of them agrees to register the username jollyg00d after the real JollyGood exposed his farm and Adkinsbet?

It would appear they are done with the army.

Those accounts being sold over there likely aren't the Adkinsbet stormtroopers(™️) because the ones we're talking about have DT red trust.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

At this point their posting can be considered as trolling. It’s constant, bumping old threads, shit posting, off topic.
I don’t see why mods don’t nuke them.

[actmyname]

At this point their posting can be considered as trolling. It’s constant, bumping old threads, shit posting, off topic.
I don’t see why mods don’t nuke them.

It's actually very, very difficult to get banned on this forum unless you are doing some insane spam or trolling. The only reliable method is to copy-paste something. Did you know that many of the users that have hundreds of posts deleted for spam are still running around as if nothing happened?

Just keep reporting if there are rules being broken. It'll be a measure of the moderator patience vs. shill patience: which do you think will run out first?

[JollyGood]

I found it interesting that on January 31st the following ad appeared on another site:

https://www.playerup.com/threads/wts-bitcointalk-org-accounts-5-legendary-1-hero-16-full-member.4879487/

I never knew anything about that website, never even heard of it. So that is one of the places where people go to buy accounts registered in this forum either single or in bulk. I wonder what sort of money these sellers have made over the years for farming these accounts only to sell on later...

[TalkStar]

Just got information from sportbet owners reply that Adkinsbet is leaving the forum. Although i don't believe that they will really do it but chances is higher that they will make another entry with new name. After getting caught with fraudulent activity they are now trying to attack other gambling platforms and a group of accounts are involved in this. I don’t know actually what they are trying to gain by doing something like that but no doubt that they are following wrong way.

Thanks DireWolfM14 for detecting the group and sharing all their accounts information here. You may forgot to add the flag link on your main topic.

[sujonali1819]

Ah, this is the things behind the scene. Now I can understand why adskinbet's ann thread had got a huge response/bumped in a short period. (Which is very unrealistic if I compare with others.)

Just got information from sportbet owners reply that Adkinsbet is leaving the forum. Although i don't believe that they will really do it but chances is higher that they will make another entry with new name.

There are very chance to do that. Since It was planned so I think they have already something made to make new entry in this forum.

Btw thanks OP for doing this fantastic investigation.  now I thought is totally changed about adskinbets.

[notblox1]

Adkinsbet locked their ANN topic and they are leaving bitcointalk forum, so it will be interesting to see what is going to happen with all those accounts who still have their signatures and avatars and if they will still be active.
Someone lost a lot of money purchasing all those accounts that are now ruined and I am not sure why they are now targeting Sportsbet.
Do you remember who else targeted Sportsbet all the time?

[stompix]

Adding this here:

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My dear user of account BlackFor3st, can you please let me know how these things are possible?

https://ninjastic.space/user/BlackFor3st
Altcoins (Deutsch)   234   10%   View

This is the power of crypto currencies and the marketing of big exchanges are pretty awesome as they were able to expand it to sports. Football is not really familiar in our country but I know that it is very popular in other countries.

There a lot more interesting posts already archived about "your country" which seems to be quite far away from the fatherland  
I thought of typing all this in german but since you haven't posted for quite a few years there I assume you've forgotten the language?

Probably there are more who have suddenly forgotten what sport is played in their country alongside with their language, Jollygood pointed out another one ; BTCGOLD who follows the same pattern, from a german guy, actively mining with asics and selling silver and gold to a bounty hunter posting for pennies.

Same for codegnome, started in Spanish, learned a bit of Polish, and then forgot them all and found himself in a different country, realizing the mistake he has done crossing the border illegally he also deleted that message.

[AB de Royse777]

I even went and reported their domain, suggested others to do the same if they can. It looked like a Test match cricket between adkinsbet and their shills VS Royse777, actmyname and more one/two users. Those shills even concluded that Royse777, actmyname and those one/two accounts are all owned by the same person.

At some point I felt tried! What's new?

Scammers like AdkinsBET knows the community very well and they prepare themselves before making their final move.

I don’t know why the mods don’t just nuke all Adkins sig wearers. They’re adding nothing constructive to the forum.

I was even requesting to lock their ANN thread which is obviously proven that it's sole intention is to scam the community. But moderators have different priority and point of view.

[nutildah]

Pretty sure this is the same group/person behind Malubit, as I saw something posted today that lends credence to that theory.

From a thread called "Adkinsbet.com PURE SCAM!"

Similarities with malubit.com

If you have time you can read my posts in malubit.com thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224028.400
I am now 100% sure they are the same site. Adkins is created by malubit thieves.
They are doing almost the same things. Forcing players to play, giving bonuses with similar or almost the same requirements. Malubit did not changed my bet but they logged in to my account and placed all my money on big odd on horse. That bet won but they closed my account after that and closed the site.
Very very similar things.

Interestingly, game-protect didn't do any special favors for Malubit, so by transitive property I don't think he has anything to do with Adkinsbet.

Here's the interesting part, and something that I think also ties Adkinsbet and Malubit together.

From the Malubit thread:

There are some people on the forum who are lying and manipulating our website.
The best example is radex90.
I will expekt an answer from him soon here  

I expekt it was placed somehwere in the 85th minute.

What I happened to see today, posted by one of the Adkinsbet accounts:

What do you expekt? People warned how corrupt the forum is.

From the Adkinsbet account itself:

In 1-2 weeks we expekt to offer traditional payment methods as well.

There's only 2 other accounts who have used this misspelling on the forum... One of them was promoting a sportsbook that fell flat on its face:

- Yes is a new site, dont expekt to find our site registered in 2010.

tl;dr: Adkinsbet is Malubit and neither are game-protect.

[notblox1]

tl;dr: Adkinsbet is Malubit and neither are game-protect.

I see that Adkinsbet main account is still active and visiting forum and then he uses other purchased accounts to write against other betting websites.

Looking at their post history I think that this accounts are controlled by more than one person, and some of them may be controlled by member gosha@e-coin who talked a lot about betnomi founder Sorsis before.

Take a look at post history search with word Sorsis and you can see some connection there, or we can just believe gosha@e-coin is simply gone from this forum  

[Timelord2067]

Take a look at post history search with word Sorsis and you can see some connection there, or we can just believe he is simply gone from this forum 

Sorsis is the Telegram name for betnomi - just about every other post with that word (sorsis) states that, so I'm not sure I understand what the relevance is in the context of this thread.?

Can you please send me your telegram(viber,email) for contacting you? I have exceeded the limit of 2 personal messages per day. Thanks.

Sure, you can reach me on telegram @sorsis

Thanks

I can't find any user here called sorsis either.

[LoyceV]

The "Army of Alts" seems to enjoy dragging me into their off-topic posts in other gambling threads:

Royse777 is also involved in this, he is a corrupt member as well. Loycev might be the alt of him, and betnomi paid him to sponsor something, so they will leave him alone.

Betnomi bought the influence from DT users here like Royse, Loycev and steamyme,.

I'm still waiting for my payments

It's not the first time they try to drag me in. Could that be because of my negative feedback on their main account?

[DireWolfM14]

~
tl;dr: Adkinsbet is Malubit and neither are game-protect.

I noticed the misspelling of the word "expect" also, and searched for it on the site to add proof that the Adkinsbet shill accounts were alts. I came across the Malubit account during that search which took me down a rabbit hole, that at some point became irrelevant.  However, there are striking similarities between Adkinsbet and Malubit; both seem to have purchased shill accounts, both have the same broken English, and both spend a significant amount of time attacking other casinos, but not each other.

I agree that both are very likely run by the same person.

Betnomi bought the influence from DT users here like Royse, Loycev and steamyme,.

 

All three of those user names contain a "Y!"  They must be alts!

[AB de Royse777]

It's not the first time they try to drag me in. Could that be because of my negative feedback on their main account?

If you speak anything against AdkinsBET, these users will find a way to connect them with me. I wonder whey still they did not tell anything about DireWolfM14? Or they did already and I missed it? He also has lending business so aren't there a very easy possiblity for him to be my alt? :-P

/s

Good finding nutildah!

All three of those user names contain a "Y!"  They must be alts!

We have "r", "o", "e" common :-D

[LoyceV]

All three of those user names contain a "Y!"  They must be alts!

We have "r", "o", "e" common :-D

7+7=14

[DireWolfM14]

All three of those user names contain a "Y!"  They must be alts!

We have "r", "o", "e" common :-D

7+7=14

Oh, um, yeah, about that; 14 does not equal 21, or 343.  So you must be mistaken. 

[AB de Royse777]

All three of those user names contain a "Y!"  They must be alts!

We have "r", "o", "e" common :-D

7+7=14

Oh, um, yeah, about that; 14 does not equal 21, or 343.  So you must be mistaken. 

I have no idea why LoyceV did not consider another 7. I consider it as an insult :-D

Anyway, on a serious note - lately I have no idea where we are. Too busy with some projects that I heardly get time to login and hang up here. I think today is the last day and I am going to be regular again.

[FatFork]

To supplement nutildah's research, Malubit was the same account behind Cleobet.io scam as well.

Proof:

It is only a matter of time before your alt accounts are attacking me here as well again..
So here we go again..

efialtis with your alt accounts, com in this topic and defend  efialtis and attack cleobet!  Grin
I will count the number of alt accounts.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5416/54168072.html

It is only a matter of time before your alt accounts are attacking me here as well again..
So here we go again..

efialtis with your alt accounts, com in this topic and defend  efialtis and attack cleobet!  
I will count the number of alt accounts.

He posted with the wrong account and then deleted and reposted as Cleobet.

And in another instance:
malubit - https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5416/54161811.html
Cleobet - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723.msg54161821#msg54161821

I see that there have been suspicions before but but ended with a denial.

I understand your question now. We have nothing to do with Malubit though.

As I mentioned earlier, I cannot judge providers from other companies / bookmakers.
I cannot speak on behalf of Malubit and I absolutely do not want to. If you have questions related to them, you should put them to them.
But given the hundreds / thousands of sites out there, it seems plausible to me that some odds are the same.

I haven't been able to find ties to Pitibet.io yet, but it's quite possible that the same individual is behind all of them.

[DireWolfM14]

VIPGames might be another connected casino.  Very similar backstory and behavior to AdkinsBET, for example they too had a signature campaign, but this one went for bit longer, 4 weeks.  VIPGames Signature campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251708.0

There's one Legendary account currently wearing the VIP signature and avatar, ronaldo40.  Notice this user is not listed on sig-campaign spreadsheet, and the account appears to be operated by the same individual as the others wearing the AdkinsBET signatures.  The same language patterns and behavior.  Here, ronaldo40 bumps a 5-month old thread to troll and besmirch a competing sportsbook.

[Adzivu]

If I'm not wrong Adkinsbet said they won't be active on the forum anymore.
Well, they are not posting, but they are lurking.

It's funny how they played the victim at the end. They robbed some of us and locked the topic and "left".

[notblox1]

Adkinsbet are a big liars!
They are back and now they opened new self moderated topic with their new hired account mikelsmith2020 who never before has done something similar.
This is their new topic and they started to use other shill accounts to post there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322032.0

Topic should be deleted by moderators because it is duplicate of their original locked topic.

They clearly tried to avoid showing negative trust in this way with some disclaimer and deleting any comments they dont like.

(3 posts by 1 user deleted.)

Should red flag be created for this or negative feedback given?

[Adzivu]

They immediately deleted my post with links to all the accusations topics.

https://imgur.com/BAzkl6f

And all the scam accusations that are not resolved.

Nice one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5302402.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314932.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309454.0

There was one post after me that someone posted, but from the wrong account because it has been deleted and someone else posted the similar thing.

[NotATether]

They immediately deleted my post with links to all the accusations topics.

https://imgur.com/BAzkl6f

And all the scam accusations that are not resolved.

Nice one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5302402.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314932.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309454.0

There was one post after me that someone posted, but from the wrong account because it has been deleted and someone else posted the similar thing.

Yeah and the OP also deleted my reply too:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Did you guys forget to read the stickied thread One thread per site ONLY?

Well the good thing about this self modded thread is that the rest of us can figure out Adkinsbet's bought accounts & shills including the OP cause everyone else's post including mine is going to be deleted.

If the OP of that topic is unaffiliated with Adkinsbet as his disclaimer claims to be and is really just a designer, then he wouldn't be deleting posts that are critical to them. So I highly suspect this OP is just a proxy for Adkinsbet and they don't want to look defeatist by reopening their other thread made by a rep who said they're leaving bitcointalk forever.

@notblox1 I already tagged him, a flag isn't appropriate IMO.

Edit: spelling

[Adzivu]

ok, so

https://imgur.com/AzxFBPo

"msarro" first posted this post at 03:35:xx PM
deleted the post, "BTCGOLD" posted, I posted, and them "msarro" posted the same thing 5 minutes later.
In the meantime my second post there was deleted.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

They have good limits, plenty of leagues and games to bet on.

But I would advise to be careful because there are some things about this site that don't look good .

Plenty of players are not being payed their winnings.

Curacao license means nothing .

I also gave that "mikelsmith2020" negative feedback for promoting them.

[LoyceV]

This is their new topic and they started to use other shill accounts to post there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322032.0

See https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5322032.html
Quote/repost this link to trigger an update.

Should red flag be created for this or negative feedback given?

Any topic advertising a scam deserves a Newbie warning Flag (type 1).

[mikelsmith2020]

Adkinsbet are a big liars!
They are back and now they opened new self moderated topic with their new hired account mikelsmith2020 who never before has done something similar.
This is their new topic and they started to use other shill accounts to post there:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322032.0

Topic should be deleted by moderators because it is duplicate of their original locked topic.

They clearly tried to avoid showing negative trust in this way with some disclaimer and deleting any comments they dont like.

(3 posts by 1 user deleted.)

Should red flag be created for this or negative feedback given?

I've been handling bounty campaig, design services and management services. I don't know what are you talking about I've stated on my design that I am no related to the Adkins Interactive Group N.V. and they use my to create design and post it.

[Steamtyme]

I've been handling bounty campaig, design services and management services. I don't know what are you talking about I've stated on my design that I am no related to the Adkins Interactive Group N.V. and they use my to create design and post it.

Flag has been created.

Yeah great exclusion of liability at the end, doesn't matter. Your actions make you untrustworthy and I believe newbies are at a risk of dealing with you or reviewing anything you have to do with business. If it was truly only about selling your design, then the client should have posted it.

You obviously knew something was up when you absolved yourself of liability.

Edit: Further to that, you are obviously in control and deleting replies to the thread, so you are intertwined no matter what you say.

[suchmoon]

I've been handling bounty campaig, design services and management services. I don't know what are you talking about I've stated on my design that I am no related to the Adkins Interactive Group N.V. and they use my to create design and post it.

It doesn't matter. You're responsible for content you post here. If the content breaks the rules you'll be banned. Same with trust ratings, if you "manage" a scam you'll get red trust. If you didn't want to be related to AdkinsBET you should have given them your design and told them to post it themselves, they have quite a few accounts for that.

[examplens]

I've been handling bounty campaig, design services and management services. I don't know what are you talking about I've stated on my design that I am no related to the Adkins Interactive Group N.V. and they use my to create design and post it.

It doesn't matter. You're responsible for content you post here. If the content breaks the rules you'll be banned. Same with trust ratings, if you "manage" a scam you'll get red trust. If you didn't want to be related to AdkinsBET you should have given them your design and told them to post it themselves, they have quite a few accounts for that.

He is also responsible for posts that have been deleted in his topic. For example, @Adzivu posted info about open scam accusations against them, which is the info so important for all potential players on there.
so he didn’t just do the design for them, he moderates this topic and removes all posts that do not write positively about these fraudsters.

https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5650/56503955.html

Post 56503955 (by Adzivu) (scraped on Sat Mar 6 16:31:12 CET 2021):

And all the scam accusations that are not resolved.

Nice one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310071.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5302402.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314932.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309454.0

[Adzivu]

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

I just created an account on the site and made a deposit with bitcoins, when will it be credited to my balance?

I thought it would be credited to a balance after 1 confirmation on the network. Some sites even require 2 confirmations or more.
I advice to wait for 1 confirmation and then check if it is credited to your balance for example.

You were right, it was credited after 1 confirmation on the blockchain. The fees nowadays is crazy for transactions by the way.
No problem if I won something with gambling of course.

Good luck. Let us know how did it go

They just deleted this post. What did I say here that upset them?

[actmyname]

Well, I guess this is, "good luck, fuckers" as the red flags are gone and now you're only left with type one flags for Newbies.

Good luck finding someone who suffered a written agreement with "mikelsmith2020"Scammer paradise - just get rid of your problems by making more accounts.

[acroman08]

They just deleted this post. What did I say here that upset them?

well, you've posted links to their scam accusation and that probably earned you a "permaban" from posting on their thread. I wouldn't waste any more time posting in that thread since anything that you say that is even remotely against them will be definitely deleted.

edit: new account representative from adkinsbet(at least he claims to be) adkinsbet_official

[Steamtyme]

Scammer paradise - just get rid of your problems by making more accounts.

It's shitty. I've done the only other thing I can think of. I PM's campaign managers, not all just the couple I could think of. I requested they exclude that particular thread from post counts. It won't do much but at least it  might help keep the traffic down, if the only people talking are Adkinsbet and their Alts.

Other than that, I noticed the OP of that thread was offline so I dropped the old scam post it lasted about 15 minutes. So I'll do it whenever I see him offline <Insert "It ain't much but it's honest" Meme>

Edit: Apparently there is an adkinsbet_official now. I've tagged them, I would think that any wronged user could Flag this account not that it will help with teir shadow thread.

[LoyceV]

Good luck finding someone who suffered a written agreement with "mikelsmith2020"

It's okay for victims to create red Flags for confirmed alt accounts of a scammer:

Can I also create a scammer flag for alt-accounts of the contract violator? Example: BetKing.io violated a contract, but BetKing Support, dean nolan and PocketRocketsCasino are his alt-accounts.

Yes, one of the victims can.

[notblox1]

Member mikelsmith2020 is obviously controlled by Adkinsbet and anyone who continues posting in that new Adkinsbet thread should be considered a spammer.
Just look how many merits he received from his adkins buddies:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1111151

[actmyname]

It's okay for victims to create red Flags for confirmed alt accounts of a scammer:

Can I also create a scammer flag for alt-accounts of the contract violator? Example: BetKing.io violated a contract, but BetKing Support, dean nolan and PocketRocketsCasino are his alt-accounts.

Yes, one of the victims can.

Good find, though any response will be delayed (waiting for victims) and you can have certain situations running into plausible deniability something something, making a fuss and smokescreen until the next alt comes up with another flag-free thread

Endgame would just be to constantly prop up those threads - what then? Users (in particular, new users) on the forum get scammed despite flags and tags (eg) and obviously unless you understand the trust system (i.e. are not new and are not at risk of getting scammed by Adkinsbet), the forum mechanics have a hell of a learning curve.

Here's the umpteenth time I'll mention that old welcome message. Eliminate the false sense of security for incoming members. "Trust no one" should be a much more widely-spread mantra.And again:

Of course, the thing is, if other members were allowed to create many, many threads before being banned... what would happen if someone wanted to actually maliciously spam and troll the forum boards? Give this a thought.

[Adzivu]

17 deleted posts by 9 users.

Raise your hand if you are one of the lucky ones.

Their activity has increased a lot after they opened that new thread.

Now they are not bashing other sport betting companies.

[AB de Royse777]

Maybe we need a new community rule.
If anyone support AdkinsBET and make posts to promote AdkinsBET then tag them.

If someone support a scam, but they did not scam anyone directly then what do we do. Just leave them to support and help a proven scammer?

I would appreciate inputs from everyone on this.

Cheers,

[notblox1]

Maybe we need a new community rule.
If anyone support AdkinsBET and make posts to promote AdkinsBET then tag them.

Problem is that people write all kind of shit just to fill their signature requiered posts and they don't even care what topic is about.
Look at this ya.ya.yo guy for example commenting something about Juventus, and BestChange manager should pay more attention on this, but this guy is not even in BestChange campaign just weatring their signature to confuse people.

The odds for Juventus at 1.42 seems to be a little low for me. And Porto to high. The gap between these teams is not so big as bookmakers think it is.
Could be really profitable if you place a bet on the draw or away team to win. Juventus is better, but there is no advantage anymore of homeplaying teams. Porto has a strong squad too.
In the last 20 years, Porto won the Champions League once, and Juventus 0 ?  

ya.ya.yo!

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=101572

[DireWolfM14]

Maybe we need a new community rule.
If anyone support AdkinsBET and make posts to promote AdkinsBET then tag them.

I would be careful about applying such general rules of that sort.  AdkinsBet's shills have been annoying, and they haven't addressed their scam accusations from January, but we have no way of knowing for certain that the accusations are real.  Sure, if it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck, but circumstantial evidence of that sort isn't sufficient in my opinion.

The more DT members go on assumptions and presumptions to leave reviews and tags, the less valuable the system becomes.  Saturating the trust system is already a problem, and this kind of attitude will only make it worse.

I understand the frustration of many members.  Actmyname has made references to how easy it is for a scammer to just switch accounts, create a new alt, or buy a high ranking account, and keep promoting the same scam.  But, if nothing else, this latest episode of whack-a-mole has taught us is that the system can identify scammers and their alts rather quickly.

If someone support a scam, but they did not scam anyone directly then what do we do. Just leave them to support and help a proven scammer?

That already happens on a regular basis.  Look at all the people who got tagged for wearing the Yobit or LiveCoin signatures.  If anything I think there are many people here who are overzealous when it comes to tagging other for supporting scams, and rightfully so.

[actmyname]

But, if nothing else, this latest episode of whack-a-mole has taught us is that the system can identify scammers and their alts rather quickly.

Took a while to see it, in my opinion. Bear in mind the negatives started coming in after you had a half-dozen worth of threads pop up about Adkinsbet, and after they ignore them with unsatisfactory subsequent replies.

If finding the scam through that mess constitutes as quickness then I suppose the new forum will arrive very soon. If the claims about the owners being the same as malubit are true, then you can probably expect another one of these sites to pop up in a few months. Bitcointalk is free advertising to anyone who wants it - double-edged sword.

[wildan88]

Maybe we need a new community rule.
If anyone support AdkinsBET and make posts to promote AdkinsBET then tag them.

If someone support a scam, but they did not scam anyone directly then what do we do. Just leave them to support and help a proven scammer?

I would appreciate inputs from everyone on this.

Cheers,

The only input that you received for the moment that somebody removed his Positive trust from your account.
Luckily I am not the only one who is seeing that you are abusing your DT status and that you are only focusing on attacking Adkinsbet without being objective.
Keep going like this, and it is just a matter of time before you will lose your DT status. You already made yourself more ridiculous than you already act.

[Timelord2067]

You already made yourself more ridiculous than you already act.

Are you sure you're not Barney Rubble and not Fred Flintstone?  Either way, you've been caught with your pants down (in more ways than one) and your Trust Feedback score isn't something to be overly proud of...

(I can see I'm going to have to put some of these sock-puppets on ignore)

[wildan88]

You already made yourself more ridiculous than you already act.

Are you sure you're not Barney Rubble and not Fred Flintstone?  Either way, you've been caught with your pants down (in more ways than one) and your Trust Feedback score isn't something to be overly proud of...

(I can see I'm going to have to put some of these sock-puppets on ignore)

Royse wrote that I am an alt account of Game Protect, I think that is really something to be proud of. So I have to disappoint you: I am proud of my trust feedback score.
Not everybody can say that he is compared with Game Protect.
a DT member removed his positive trust from Royse. I am sure nobody will remove his positive trust from my account since I do not have any 

[decodx]

...only focusing on attacking Adkinsbet without being objective.

Without being objective? It's funny to hear that.
What part of my question in the Adkinsbet topic do you think was not objective? However, it was deleted within a few minutes. So legitimate questions are not allowed there?

And you're talking about objectivity ...

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.
...

So this is the new official thread for Adkinsbet? And who is the representative of the company on this forum now?
I see member adkinsbet_official to post here, but that user was registered only a few days ago. Why a new account?

[coin.princess]

Jollygood = stompix = decodx

[decodx]

Jollygood = stompix = decodx

LOL!

coin.princess = adkinsbet sockpuppet = moron

[Adzivu]

All the accounts changed their avatar and signature.

34 posts from 10 users deleted as of right now.

Their official account is thanking everyone for their feedback like nothing happened.

[AB de Royse777]

snip

Just to be clear before anything else. I am very careful about leaving any feedback to any account's trust page. It could be positive, neutral or even negative. If you notice, I rarely send out positive feedback to the people who borrow from my lending business. There are some limits (only I decide and other guys do not have any sign about it) and when it crosses my limit then I go and leave feedback. It's fine to leave feedback to an account which has done few grands of trades with you. They automatically earn it. The same with negative. If anyone defaults a loan or any trade with me, I give them enough time just to make sure that I am not harming them. When things become very clear that they do not have any intention to pay back, and I believe 100% that I am correct only then I leave negative.

I also believe that giving out negative very easily eventually harm the system. It becomes less important when mass people start receiving tags for doing little mistakes like leaving out some opinion that is not globally accepted like the flat earth believers, or giving some opinion, and later it found out that it was wrong.

But in the case of Adkinsbet we all know that we did not tag them after popping up one or two accusations. There were accusations after accusations and most of these accusations were looking very legit. The accusers were giving enough proofs that adkinsbet were not able to defend them anymore at some point. And not to mention the case of realscout. I knew about it from the very beginning as he was always telling me that they are holding his winning and making one after anther excuses. Even they were so scammy that at some point they changed his selections just to give him a reason that it was a lost bet.

So there were no questions about Adkkinsbet were selectively scamming.

Now let's talk about those puppet accounts. Those were the accounts who were defending every wrong doings by adkinsbet from the very beginning. When a legendary member, hero member leave a positive input, defend a business - newbies and people on the web who do not have much idea how to look at the history of a user accept those input as granted and do the business with that service site.

Using those shill accounts adkinsbet scammed all those users on the forum which is a no-brainer. And look at them, still those accounts are shamelessly defending adkinsbet as if they do not know anything and adkinsbet are the one who are victims here.

Allowing those accounts freely making comments about defending adkinsbet meaning we are giving adkinsbet the platform to take advantage again.

Actmyname has made references to how easy it is for a scammer to just switch accounts, create a new alt, or buy a high ranking account, and keep promoting the same scam.

Shilling from a brand-new account and shilling from a higher rank account has difference. And when another high rank account pops up - we may not spot it immediately but sooner or later they will be spotted and doing the same action against that high rank account will be the right thing I guess.


Update:
All the following users has been tagged:
BlackFor3st, ronaldo40, wildan88, sempak, Cacingkemi, BitcoinAccepted, MI6, deadthings, aomakun, BTCGOLD, imutlinda, cutesgirl, codegnome, coin.princess

Source: Opposing the flag against adkinsbet.
This does not mean that just because you opposed the flag, you got tagged.

I do not have much time to look each and every account's post history and to find other users who are regularely defending adkinsbet with their statements. So I have chosen the shortcut. If any of the above account does not have any post that is defending adkinsbet, and it is not older than last 30 days then PM me I will remove the tag.

[BitcoinAccepted]

I think it is time to remove Royse777 from the DT list, since he is abusing his status for months already.

Because his friend was involved with a problem with Adkinsbet, he was not objective anymore.

Royse777 is chasing on Adkinsbet from message #1

When Betnomi provided a passport from a customer online (completeley identitiy fraud!), Royse just wrote something that we should not pay to much attention to it and that everybody can mistakes.

My first thoughts are that Royse777 is getting paid by Betnomi, and There is also reasons to believe that Royse777 is connected to steamtyme.

Royse777 has a lot of buddies in the DT zone, but I want to say to the real, honest DT members to investigate Royse777 and remove people like him and jollygood from the trust system.

The DT system is completely useless and losing credibility with scumbag like Jollygood and royse777 (steamtyme = royse777 probably)


Please also note that Royse777 bought his account, as user MonsterV already showed the evidence.

[DireWolfM14]

I think it is time to remove Royse777 from the DT list, since he is abusing his status for months already.

Lol, I was just thinking it might be time to add him to my trust list.

~
When Betnomi provided a passport from a customer online (completeley identitiy fraud!), Royse just wrote something that we should not pay to much attention to it and that everybody can mistakes.
~
Please also note that Royse777 bought his account, as user MonsterV already showed the evidence.

Do you have any proof of this?  Why not post some links?

Honestly though, you and your AdkinsBet cohorts have done nothing but attack those who are critical of the service, so it makes it hard to believe that you're being objective. 

[actmyname]

Do you have any proof of this?  Why not post some links?

Probably all started from this post. Even if it were true, there's actually nothing that Royse has done that happened pre-2017... all his reputation comes from after the supposed account trade. Similar situation, assuming the claim is true, see: Avirunes

Effectively, just another irrelevant ad-hominem.

[Inagame]

Adkinscambet made one of the biggest scheme operations in forum with purchasing and controling many accounts, making new threads, and they are stupid to think that everyone is blind and can't see what they are doing.
This is one way street for building permanent bad reputation for Adkinscambet.

[TwitchySeal]

I've been handling bounty campaig, design services and management services. I don't know what are you talking about I've stated on my design that I am no related to the Adkins Interactive Group N.V. and they use my to create design and post it.

Are you using any alt accounts to shill for adkins on the side perhaps?  

I am using 1 alt account (only alt account) this one is for my personal matter but anyways I used my alt account to join on a signature campaign on bounty and I tried to open two topics and from 1 topic I quote the other 1 but since it has so many quotes I tried to edit it and only quotes whom user I will going to reply and I copied it on purpose that my internet might crash and i will edit it again. The thing is that I pasted it on the other thread that it seems like I just copied and paste from another thread but I edited it already. Is there a chance that I might be banned for plagiarism about that? It's purely an accident and edited right away but it seems that it might be recorded on LoyceV's record. edit. to make it short I copy and pasted on different thread accidentally and it seems it was recorded on archive but i edited it immediately, is my account in trouble?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269710.msg55020714#msg55020714



Nice work guys, btw.  This is one of the most blatant attempts by a crypto casino to exploit the community in hopes to help their image and damage their competitors I've ever seen.  I can't believe they're still even trying after past few months. Gonna do some more digging.

[decodx]

Nice work guys, btw.  This is one of the most blatant attempts by a crypto casino to exploit the community in hopes to help their image and damage their competitors I've ever seen.  I can't believe they're still even trying after past few months. Gonna do some more digging.

I think it's pretty obvious that's not going to work, I wonder what their next plan will be as I'm sure they won't stop so easily.

Nice find, btw.

[Adzivu]

Someone didn't come to work.

No posts from them in a while now.

[savetheFORUM]

Isn't buying so many accounts and obviously paying them to continuously post in their thread directly abusing the 1 bump a day rule? I would request Theymos to please remove that thread for obvious abuse by multiple accounts and bumping it all day.


Some of the obvious posts made to bump the thread are below.

Looks like easy money to place  a bet on Belgium, but these games are very far away. i think its better to discuss something with matches that are closer to the current time  
It was also a very strange game from Real Madrid today.

You never know at Real Madrid. They have also trailed games 0-3 in which they win 4-3. It was always a real goal-scoring machine. I've also heard rumors that Ronaldo might want to go back to Madrid again, because at Juventus especially this season has been very disappointing. As it looks now, they are not winning. In the Champions League they are now also out after the embarrassment against Porto.

The last time they indicated (I believe) that this is not possible yet. Maybe they will improve the system and make it possible.
They also have to think about integrating Ethereum as deposit method, this coin is getting more and more popular and raises in market value as well.

There are lot more ..

[decodx]

Isn't buying so many accounts and obviously paying them to continuously post in their thread directly abusing the 1 bump a day rule? I would request Theymos to please remove that thread for obvious abuse by multiple accounts and bumping it all day.

Don't be too concerned; it'll only be a matter of time before they realize that such frivolous tactics are no longer effective.
People aren't stupid. Anyone who takes a look at the Reputation or Scam Accusations sections will see what kind of scam this is all about.

[savetheFORUM]

Isn't buying so many accounts and obviously paying them to continuously post in their thread directly abusing the 1 bump a day rule? I would request Theymos to please remove that thread for obvious abuse by multiple accounts and bumping it all day.

Don't be too concerned; it'll only be a matter of time before they realize that such frivolous tactics are no longer effective.
People aren't stupid. Anyone who takes a look at the Reputation or Scam Accusations sections will see what kind of scam this is all about.

I am not concerned one bit but bumping multiple times is against the forum rules and doing it with multiple or same account shouldn't change much I think. I would like to know why they haven't been banned yet.

[decodx]

I am not concerned one bit but bumping multiple times is against the forum rules and doing it with multiple or same account shouldn't change much I think. I would like to know why they haven't been banned yet.

Yes, bumping a thread multiple times in a day is against the forum rules, but unfortunately, I doubt anyone will be banned for it. Because, despite the fact that they openly endorse that casino, it is difficult to prove conclusively that all accounts are owned by AdkinsBet.

[TwitchySeal]

I am not concerned one bit but bumping multiple times is against the forum rules and doing it with multiple or same account shouldn't change much I think. I would like to know why they haven't been banned yet.

Yes, bumping a thread multiple times in a day is against the forum rules, but unfortunately, I doubt anyone will be banned for it. Because, despite the fact that they openly endorse that casino, it is difficult to prove conclusively that all accounts are owned by AdkinsBet.

Still worth reporting.  They'll get a warning, then a temp ban on the bumping account, and then if an alt of that account keeps posting perm ban on all.

[decodx]

Still worth reporting.  They'll get a warning, then a temp ban on the bumping account, and then if an alt of that account keeps posting perm ban on all.

I agree. The more reports admins receive, the more attention they will pay to that topic, and hopefully, punish those fake members and spammers.

[DireWolfM14]

I am not concerned one bit but bumping multiple times is against the forum rules and doing it with multiple or same account shouldn't change much I think. I would like to know why they haven't been banned yet.

Yes, bumping a thread multiple times in a day is against the forum rules, but unfortunately, I doubt anyone will be banned for it. Because, despite the fact that they openly endorse that casino, it is difficult to prove conclusively that all accounts are owned by AdkinsBet.

Still worth reporting.  They'll get a warning, then a temp ban on the bumping account, and then if an alt of that account keeps posting perm ban on all.

I don't think reporting them for bumping will work, but maybe.  Like decodx mentioned, the evidence that they are all operated by one person is circumstantial.  Without conclusive, irrefutable evidence the accounts are all owned and operated by one individual the posts won't get deleted and the accounts won't be banned.

[actmyname]

It would be interesting to check the statistics pertaining to the distribution of posts: surely, it would be useful to have some chart that displays the most active members on the thread and the number of replies they post.

After all, an active site with many players must have a whole range of people in a discussion thread instead of a dozen members with a thread participation rate, right?

[notblox1]

It appears Adkinscambet workers are back from holiday and they write again with full power.
They are for sure bumping that topic and we should report them for that, and maybe some new forum rules should be made for some paid groups like this.

[FatFork]

It would be interesting to check the statistics pertaining to the distribution of posts: surely, it would be useful to have some chart that displays the most active members on the thread and the number of replies they post.

After all, an active site with many players must have a whole range of people in a discussion thread instead of a dozen members with a thread participation rate, right?

Here you go. I singled out all the members who wrote more than two posts in that thread.



You're welcome.

[actmyname]

-img-
You're welcome.

Cheers. How impressive that just ten users of the thread contribute 43% of the posts. Must be some great discussion that's going on there.

[FatFork]

-img-
You're welcome.

Cheers. How impressive that just ten users of the thread contribute 43% of the posts. Must be some great discussion that's going on there.

Yeah. No matter how much you want to keep riding, beating a dead horse is not going to get you anywhere.
It's heartbreaking to see how desperately they're trying.

[actmyname]

One of these has the last-most recent post from way back in 2017, cheez-it christ...

Lazy attempt of a smokescreen, that's what I'd say...

[DireWolfM14]

One of these has the last-most recent post from way back in 2017, cheez-it christ...

Lazy attempt of a smokescreen, that's what I'd say...

Lol that's a bunch of necro-posting, that for sure.  I just reported all the necro-posts, we'll see if that forces the mods to look into this shit.  If mods can confirm that all the accounts listed in the op are using the same IP, they should all be banned. 

[airfinex]

I have never seen someone banned by IP analysis. Is this really practiced?

[FatFork]

I have never seen someone banned by IP analysis. Is this really practiced?

No, I don't think so. But if the alt accounts are used to bump one topic more than is allowed (in this case AdkinsBet) then this is a violation of the forum's rules and accounts could be banned.

[TwitchySeal]

Lazy attempt of a smokescreen, that's what I'd say...

Jeez that's really fucked up.

Does Adkins seem to be getting any sort of organic traffic?  

It seems like the best response at this point is to just keep keeping track of the shills and not engaging with any of them since nothing productive could possibly come from it.  The site will shrivel up and blow away like so many before them. 

[LoyceMobile]

Are those new alts?

If you really want to bet with high stakes, I suggest to check Adkinsbet.com as you can see the maximum bet for each event, even when you did not register.

If you really want to bet with high stakes, I suggest to check Adkinsbet.com as you can see the maximum bet for each event, even when you did not register.

I think safari88 is right if you are looking for higher stakes you could better take a look at Adkinsbet

[TwitchySeal]

Are those new alts?

If you really want to bet with high stakes, I suggest to check Adkinsbet.com as you can see the maximum bet for each event, even when you did not register.

If you really want to bet with high stakes, I suggest to check Adkinsbet.com as you can see the maximum bet for each event, even when you did not register.

I think safari88 is right if you are looking for higher stakes you could better take a look at Adkinsbet

Possibly.  Password change 8/17/20 for one and 8/28/20 on the other.

Could just be sig spam though.

[Timelord2067]

Are those new alts?

Possibly.  Password change 8/17/20 for one and 8/28/20 on the other.

Could just be sig spam though.

bunglor https://bpip.org/Profile?id=893313



safari88 https://bpip.org/Profile?id=378112




From page one of this thread:

8/4/2020 8:48:25 AM    password changed   sempak

8/9/2020 9:26:28 AM    password changed   wildan88
8/10/2020 7:01:15 AM    password changed   MI6

8/16/2020 10:58:22 AM    password changed   kkaroul4

8/23/2020 10:58:59 AM    password reset via email   coin.princess
8/23/2020 10:59:14 AM    woke up         coin.princess

9/24/2019 12:44:51 PM    woke up         cutesgirl

8/16/2020 3:30:13 PM    password changed   ronaldo40

If they're not alts, then it's very coincidental their password changes occurring in very close proximity to those already named in the thread.

[DireWolfM14]

Probably another one Lavander

Making comments such as this:

Deposited 100 mBTC and make a withdrawal for 127 mbtc, received in about 3 hours.
After the successful bets, I will make a deposit again and see if I can get some money.

What about the withdrawal fees? Did you have to pay the fee or was it covered by Adkinsbet?

\

No I did not had to pay eny fee. I had a balance of 127 mbtc and withdrew the entire balance and received the complete 127 mbtc.
the fee for the blockchain was paid by adkinsbet

...makes him a painfully obvious shill.  Unless, of course, AdkinsBET is giving away free money. 

[morvillz7z]

At least eight of Adkins shill accounts have received signature bans for one year:

"Banned from displaying signatures until March 29, 2022, 03:44:54 PM"

...accounts that have received sig bans haven't posted since which leads me to believe they have some sort of temp bans to go along.

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373301  ronaldo40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79831   msarro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669236  Lavander
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=418797  MonsterV
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117350  Zackgeno96
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378112  safari88
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893313  bunglor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858014  ufaiz50

I believe this has something to do with Max bet amount at Stake.com, their posts are deleted and soon after sig banned.

Some of the deleted posts:

If you really want to bet with high stakes, I suggest to check Adkinsbet.com as you can see the maximum bet for each event, even when you did not register.

I think safari88 is right if you are looking for higher stakes you could better take a look at Adkinsbet

Adkinsbet.com works fine for me. no problems with limits for betting or withdrawals.

Don't get me wrong i'm not complaining, but it's funny how the community has reported these bums for months and nothing has happened, now you get "someone other" to complain, and in less than 24hrs half of their accounts get completely decimated.

[notblox1]

Well finally we saw those accounts receiving some punishment for what they have been doing for months but I think it could be expanded on few more accounts.
Everyone connected with creation of their new topic bumping should have signature bans.

[TwitchySeal]

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858014  ufaiz50

Has ufaiz50 always had a sportsbet.io avatar?

Can't see what his sig was before sig ban, but he's not on the sb.io payment spread sheet and it looks like a low res screen shot.

I made a small deposit from 200$ and after my bet won, I made a withdrawal request for 340$  It arrived in my wallet in about 25 minutes.

cute.

[Timelord2067]

Probably another one Lavander

...makes him a painfully obvious shill.  Unless, of course, AdkinsBET is giving away free money.  

As with bunglor it'd be uncanny if they changed their password at the same time as one of the originally named UID's:

(note cutesgirl was one of the UID's that opposed the flag)

6/6/2018 9:53:19 AM    password changed   Lavander
6/21/2018 3:59:58 PM    password changed   Lavander
2/11/2019 9:55:18 AM    woke up          Lavander   

9/24/2019 12:44:51 PM    woke up      cutesgirl
9/24/2020 1:34:17 PM    password changed       Lavander
9/25/2019 12:18:27 PM    password reset via email   bunglor


*edit*

Lavander's already had their Signature ban applied.

[morvillz7z]

Has ufaiz50 always had a sportsbet.io avatar?

Can't see what his sig was before sig ban, but he's not on the sb.io payment spread sheet and it looks like a low res screen shot.

No, it was recently added, 10 days tops. It's just another way of trolling, they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

As a matter of fact, none of their shills are in any sig campaign, it always has been a facade, so they can look like normal users going about their business discussing a random bookie.

I'm curious to see how they respond to those recent bans. I expect some kind of retaliation, and it won't be just necro-bumps of old threads...if you know what i mean.

[Timelord2067]

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373301  ronaldo40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79831   msarro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669236  Lavander
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=418797  MonsterV
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117350  Zackgeno96
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378112  safari88
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893313  bunglor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858014  ufaiz50

This is the first time I've seen a couple of these accounts - where did they come from and how did you spot their signatures had been modified and possibly temporarily banned (for a year ??) ?

[morvillz7z]

This is the first time I've seen a couple of these accounts

They have been known for a while, i've made a more complete list back in January.

where did they come from

Purchased or rented accounts with the sole purpose of bumping Adkins threads.

how did you spot their signatures had been modified and possibly temporarily banned (for a year ??) ?

Ran into one of their accounts by accident today with no signature which was strange. Then i found out it was sig banned, searched their uid in the seclog and found out the rest. Whoever reported those posts, it was acted upon real fast or it was the one handling those reports idk. They deserve their temp bans, not sure about the sigs as this the first time i'm seeing someone getting sig banned for anything other than plagiarism.

[TwitchySeal]

Has ufaiz50 always had a sportsbet.io avatar?

Can't see what his sig was before sig ban, but he's not on the sb.io payment spread sheet and it looks like a low res screen shot.

No, it was recently added, 10 days tops. It's just another way of trolling, they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

As a matter of fact, none of their shills are in any sig campaign, it always has been a facade, so they can look like normal users going about their business discussing a random bookie.

I'm curious to see how they respond to those recent bans. I expect some kind of retaliation, and it won't be just necro-bumps of old threads...if you know what i mean.

Ahh, this (now deleted) post is even more confirmation.

Even if I am wearing the sportsbet.io signature, I have to say that Adkinsbet.com has a better reputation and is more legit.

[suchmoon]

At least eight of Adkins shill accounts have received signature bans for one year:

But but but muh free speech!!!#@$@!

Don't get me wrong, nice to see those shitheads temp-and-sig-banned, but I haven't seen this done to any shills ever so I wonder who and why decided to open this can of worms.

Edit - and why are these not banned for example:

they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

[actmyname]

they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

Especially the latter user, who has posted some very strange things, presumably a dox attempt. This was a veiled threat regarding the KYC information provided by those that did "image damage", since there were at least two instances of real-name accounts having been registered and having replied to Adkins-related threads.

Check out their deleted posts between Jan 18 (CET) to Jan 21.

[DireWolfM14]

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373301  ronaldo40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79831   msarro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669236  Lavander
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=418797  MonsterV
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117350  Zackgeno96
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378112  safari88
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893313  bunglor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858014  ufaiz50

Like others, I'm wondering why those accounts got temp-banned while many other have not.  It appears that none of the accounts I listed in the OP have received a ban, but they're all guilty of shilling and trolling.  It makes me think there's something connecting these accounts that was apparent to the mods or admin.  If that is the case I'm curious how these accounts were connected, but not the ones mentioned in the OP.

I suppose they all could have received temp-bans coincidentally without necessarily being connected to one another, but that seems unlikely.  I fear we may never know the reasons or justification behind the bans.

[Adzivu]

they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

Especially the latter user, who has posted some very strange things, presumably a dox attempt. This was a veiled threat regarding the KYC information provided by those that did "image damage", since there were at least two instances of real-name accounts having been registered and having replied to Adkins-related threads.

Check out their deleted posts between Jan 18 (CET) to Jan 21.

Yeah, he was mentioning someone in Montenegro.
Gave his addres and all. I noticed that posts got deleted. Now I know why.

[TwitchySeal]

More evidence from last active time that at least these 3 accounts (who had sig ban) are controlled by same person.



Name: Zackgeno96
Posts:   3426
Activity:   1204
Merit:   518
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   May 12, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:35:34 AM


Name: bunglor
Posts:   631
Activity:   631
Merit:   104
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   August 28, 2016, 05:52:34 AM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:36:00 AM

Name: Lavander
Posts:   369
Activity:   369
Merit:   101
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   November 29, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:36:14 AM

https://archive.is/wip/wstnI
https://archive.is/wip/xu8op
https://archive.is/wip/6wpT0

[actmyname]

Good luck finding someone who suffered a written agreement with "mikelsmith2020"

It's okay for victims to create red Flags for confirmed alt accounts of a scammer:

Can I also create a scammer flag for alt-accounts of the contract violator? Example: BetKing.io violated a contract, but BetKing Support, dean nolan and PocketRocketsCasino are his alt-accounts.

Yes, one of the victims can.

Nice to recall this post.

Unfortunately for users that can't see the type-1 flags, the yellow banner is the only active one on that thread. I assume that if a type-2/3 flag shows up, then there might be another switch. Would be nice to find out!

[morvillz7z]

source: https://www.redirect-checker.org

>>> https://adkinsbet.com

> --------------------------------------------
> 301 Moved Permanently
> --------------------------------------------
Status:   301 Moved Permanently
Code:   301
Date:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:34:59 GMT
Connection:   close
Cache-Control:   max-age=3600
Expires:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:34:59 GMT
Location:   https://coins777.com

Earlier today i was getting the following:



Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

[notblox1]

Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

I am not surprised to see this happening and I tagged those accounts last year for making fake provably fair claims and their withdrawals was not working on their websites.
Happy to see that Adkinscambet website is finally down and people are saved from losing money there.

[DireWolfM14]

Happy to see that Adkinscambet website is finally down and people are saved from losing money there.

I wouldn't start jumping for joy just yet.  @morvillz7z post only shows that these guys have been at it for sometime, and when things get sticky they cut ties with on name and move on to another.

For example, let's check out the newest sportsbook to show up in the gambling section; BETOP.GG.  Well, they seem legit enough.  The OP is cordial, answering questions and referring potential clients to their terms of service.  Terms of service that seem remarkably similar to those of Sportsbet.io.  So simlar, I would go as far as to call them plagiarized...

I'll just quote one part of each company's ToS for brevity.  Here's the "General" portion of Sportbet's Tos:

1. General
1.1.     These terms and conditions ("Terms and Conditions") apply to both wagering sports and the use of casino-style games accessible through www.Sportsbet.io.
1.2.      Sportsbet.io is owned and operated by mBet Solutions NV (Schout Bij Nacht Doormanweg 40, P.O. Box 4745, Curaçao). It is licensed and regulated by the Government of Curaçao under the gaming license 1668/JAZ. Some payment methods are handled by its wholly owned subsidiary, mProcessing Solutions Ltd, Cyprus (Menandrou 4, 1066, Nicosia, Cyprus).
1.3.      These Terms and Conditions come into force as soon as you complete the registration process, which includes checking the box accepting these Terms and Conditions and successfully creating an account. By using any part of the Website following account creation, you agree to these Terms and Conditions.
1.4.      You must read these Terms and Conditions carefully in their entirety before creating an account. If you do not agree with any provision of these Terms and Conditions, you must not create an account or continue to use the Website.
1.5.      We are entitled to make amendments to these Terms and Conditions at any time and without advanced notice. If we make such amendments, we may take appropriate steps to bring such changes to your attention (such as by email or placing a notice on a prominent position on the Website, together with the amended terms and conditions) but it shall be your sole responsibility to check for any amendments, updates and/or modifications. Your continued use of the Sportsbet.io services and Website after any such amendment to the Terms and Conditions will be deemed as your acceptance and agreement to be bound by such amendments, updates and/or modifications.
1.6.      These Terms and Conditions may be published in several languages for informational purposes and ease of access by players. The English version is the only legal basis of the relationship between you and us and in the case of any discrepancy with respect to a translation of any kind, the English version of these Terms and Conditions shall prevail.

And here's the "General" portion of BETOP's ToS:

1.1.     These terms and conditions ("Terms and Conditions") apply to both wagering sports and the use of casino-style games accessible through www.BETOP.GG.

1.3.      These Terms and Conditions come into force as soon as you complete the registration process, which includes checking the box accepting these Terms and Conditions and successfully creating an account. By using any part of the Website following account creation, you agree to these Terms and Conditions.

1.4.      You must read these Terms and Conditions carefully in their entirety before creating an account. If you do not agree with any provision of these Terms and Conditions, you must not create an account or continue to use the Website.

1.5.      We are entitled to make amendments to these Terms and Conditions at any time and without advanced notice. If we make such amendments, we may take appropriate steps to bring such changes to your attention (such as by email or placing a notice on a prominent position on the Website, together with the amended terms and conditions) but it shall be your sole responsibility to check for any amendments, updates and/or modifications. Your continued use of the BETOP.GG services and Website after any such amendment to the Terms and Conditions will be deemed as your acceptance and agreement to be bound by such amendments, updates and/or modifications.

1.6.      These Terms and Conditions may be published in several languages for informational purposes and ease of access by players. The English version is the only legal basis of the relationship between you and us and in the case of any discrepancy with respect to a translation of any kind, the English version of these Terms and Conditions shall prevail.

[Archive]

Note how Section 1.2 is (comically) missing from BETOP's ToS?  Now go back and read section 1.2 from Sportsbet's ToS, and you'll likely know why BETOP omitted it from their own, but they forgot to adjust the section numbers, lol.  Couldn't make this shit up.

Now, please don't get me wrong.  I'm not claiming that BETOP.GG is owned and operated by the same folks as AdkinsSCAM, there's no way to prove that.  There does seem to be some coincidence with the timing.  We all know how the AdkinsFOOLS were absolutely obsessed with Sportsbet.io.  If mimicking is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess Sportsbet.io should take it as a complement when some one plagiarizes their ToS.

[TwitchySeal]

source: https://www.redirect-checker.org

>>> https://adkinsbet.com

> --------------------------------------------
> 301 Moved Permanently
> --------------------------------------------
Status:   301 Moved Permanently
Code:   301
Date:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:34:59 GMT
Connection:   close
Cache-Control:   max-age=3600
Expires:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:34:59 GMT
Location:   https://coins777.com

Earlier today i was getting the following:



Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

The guy that runs those two sites is such scum.  Fwiw, he tried to auction off both casinos a couple months ago, doesn't appear he was successful.   

Hello,
2 casinos for sale.

2 casino website projects (licensed software, domains, social accounts, support, etc) for sale. 1 tear online.

For more details please PM.

Starting price: 0.3 BTC

Auction ends: January 15, 2021

---
Q&A

Why are you selling?
- I have been working with cryptocurrencies since 2013.  I tried the casino area. I didn’t like being a casino owner (it interferes with other jobs).

How much I can earn?
- It depends on how much you spend on advertising. Approximately plus 100 percent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305050.msg55975546#msg55975546

[morvillz7z]

Note how Section 1.2 is (comically) missing from BETOP's ToS?  Now go back and read section 1.2 from Sportsbet's ToS, and you'll likely know why BETOP omitted it from their own, but they forgot to adjust the section numbers, lol.  Couldn't make this shit up.

Good find! They seem to have been in a hurry to set it up and go online, but clearly missed cleaning a few spots, a rush job at best! 

[actmyname]

This clause is also something of interest.

"13.9.    If you are unsatisfied with any matter relating to a bet with BETOP.GG, please notify BETOP.GG within 7 days in writing after the transaction has occurred. Notifications made after the 7 day period will be disregarded. In the unlikely event of a discrepancy between the result that appears on your device and the results in the transaction logs in our system, you agree that the results in our system's transaction logs verified by an officer of BETOP.GG shall be final, conclusive and binding."

I'm a fan of seeing these "casino overrules everything" pieces of ToS.

[AB de Royse777]

This BETOP.GG, did you guys found any connection with AdkinsBET or you are just dissecting their T&C?

Good find! They seem to have been in a hurry to set it up and go online, but clearly missed cleaning a few spots, a rush job at best! 

Part of or the entire terms has been copied and pasted from sportsbet.io I guess.

"13.9.    If you are unsatisfied with any matter relating to a bet with BETOP.GG, please notify BETOP.GG within 7 days in writing after the transaction has occurred. Notifications made after the 7 day period will be disregarded. In the unlikely event of a discrepancy between the result that appears on your device and the results in the transaction logs in our system, you agree that the results in our system's transaction logs verified by an officer of BETOP.GG shall be final, conclusive and binding."

I'm a fan of seeing these "casino overrules everything" pieces of ToS.

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

[decodx]

Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

So it's over now, AdkinsBet is down? Oh, thank God!

It's important to note that the domain is redirected to another, already-known SCAM casino: coins777.
I wonder how many of them he's running?!

[Adzivu]

They also locked their thread.

I guess we know why.

[stompix]

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

How many people would go to court with a fake casino?
Let's be honest here, the gamblers that play huge sums of money don't do this on shady ones and just one tiny percentage of them would think of legal action, but that only if they know they have a chance to win and get their money back. Nobody would believe such a thing when it comes to these ones.

Those terms and conditions are usually put there just an excuse, a shady business could simply invent something and do the same without invoking anything, they know that those terms are illegal, check what some reputable exchanges have as ToS, what every miner reseller has, many would fall under the Unfair contract terms definition in the EU but they don't care, as they didn't plan on obeying the laws in the first place

As for the similarities between Adkinsbet and this new one, there is a way to prove they are run by scammers  , just make a deposit!

Now, please don't get me wrong.  I'm not claiming that BETOP.GG is owned and operated by the same folks as AdkinsSCAM, there's no way to prove that.

I've always wondered what proof you can get to link to business together unless you have some access to documents as law enforcement.
For every detail uncovered, they can claim it was an employee mistake, a coincidence, a hacked account, and so on and you have no way to prove they are lying. If they have more than the minimum intelligence required to be classified as a mammal they will get away with it in the eyes of their possible victims, and we all know they aren't targeting users like the ones active in the reputation board or veterans of the gambling board.

[decodx]

As for the similarities between Adkinsbet and this new one, there is a way to prove they are run by scammers  , just make a deposit!

I'm tempted... It'd be a small price to pay. 

By the way, what will the alt-shiller army do now? They lost their jobs.

[actmyname]

I've always wondered what proof you can get to link to business together unless you have some access to documents as law enforcement.
For every detail uncovered, they can claim it was an employee mistake, a coincidence, a hacked account, and so on and you have no way to prove they are lying. If they have more than the minimum intelligence required to be classified as a mammal they will get away with it in the eyes of their possible victims, and we all know they aren't targeting users like the ones active in the reputation board or veterans of the gambling board.

Businesses are large structures with many points of failure and thus any smart group would use plausible deniability at every step, pushing it away from associating with the entirety of the image rather than a one-off employee incident or otherwise.

[AB de Royse777]

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

How many people would go to court with a fake casino?

Not many and the bookies take this weakness to make their money. However, I have seen few cases went in the court and the punters got the favour most of the time. If more and more gamblers would be serious about their money then we might see more cases and these bookies could be more careful in conducting their fake business.

[TwitchySeal]

Checked up on a few of the shill accounts.  Except for the two in red, M16 and gadado, none of these have posted (or they deleted their posts) since mid-late March.  Yet they've all been active this month.

gadado and M16 have been active more recently, and both are now sporting a spiffy new web cam/sex site ad in their signature (jangacams).

Not going to post all the links, but I archived them all on archive.is within the last hour.  I grouped them by date to show which accounts are likely controlled by the same person.



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[Adzivu]

They are awake and promoting 1xbit now

[LoyceV]

gadado and M16 have been active more recently, and both are now sporting a spiffy new web cam/sex site ad in their signature (jangacams).

Isn't that against the rules?

10. No embedded NSFW images anywhere. NSFW content must be marked accordingly.

[TwitchySeal]

They are awake and promoting 1xbit now

So maybe they're just sig sluts and not related directly to adkinsbet?

[Adzivu]

Some of those users didn't have adkinsbet avatar/sig, but where defending the site fiercely.

All of them where offline for a while and now are back.
All posting subsequently.
If I were stupid I'd say it's coincidence.

[TwitchySeal]

Some of those users didn't have adkinsbet avatar/sig, but where defending the site fiercely.

All of them where offline for a while and now are back.
All posting subsequently.
If I were stupid I'd say it's coincidence.

They were true shills.  Many of them were wearing sigs for other casinos while not even being members of any campaign simply to appear as if they were not being paid to promote adkins bet.

[examplens]

gadado and M16 have been active more recently, and both are now sporting a spiffy new web cam/sex site ad in their signature (jangacams).

Isn't that against the rules?

10. No embedded NSFW images anywhere. NSFW content must be marked accordingly.

If we talking only about signature space, I guess the rule is not violated here. they only have links to adult websites and have not posted NSFW images here ^{I haven't checked their post history}. Two different things.
As I remember, this is not the first time that someone advertises NSFW websites here and as far as I know, it was not considered a violation of the rules nor were there any sanctions for it.
But maybe I am wrong.

[actmyname]

gadado and M16 have been active more recently, and both are now sporting a spiffy new web cam/sex site ad in their signature (jangacams).

Isn't that against the rules?

10. No embedded NSFW images anywhere. NSFW content must be marked accordingly.

If we talking only about signature space, I guess the rule is not violated here. they only have links to adult websites and have not posted NSFW images here ^{I haven't checked their post history}. Two different things.
As I remember, this is not the first time that someone advertises NSFW websites here and as far as I know, it was not considered a violation of the rules nor were there any sanctions for it.
But maybe I am wrong.

Putting the cart before the horse there. A signature, which effectively turns all your posts (past, present, and future) into advertisements is somehow more acceptable than a singular post with the same content.

Hmm....

[Timelord2067]

Putting the cart before the horse there. A signature, which effectively turns all your posts (past, present, and future) into advertisements is somehow more acceptable than a singular post with the same content.

Hmm....

Not only that but if you are able to post in a thread on the very first page and the thread then goes on to become quite popular, your signature (regardless of past, present or future signature) will be on display as I have a feeling readers will scroll down the first page then jump to the last page before posting, so the first page is prime advertising space, hence the "Army" swarms to get their incessant posts in as quickly as possible on ANY thread in anticipation it might become a long term thread.

[Botnake]

I'm wondering how long the 1xbet signature campaign will last when all of their participants have a negative rating. This is an experience for them I believe, and if it will be successful, then other gambling sites with bad reputations might follow the system of 1xbit.

They are now live in their first week, some campaigns have a trial for at least 1 month.

[actmyname]

I'm wondering how long the 1xbet signature campaign will last when all of their participants have a negative rating. This is an experience for them I believe, and if it will be successful, then other gambling sites with bad reputations might follow the system of 1xbit.

They are now live in their first week, some campaigns have a trial for at least 1 month.

One wonders why it wouldn't be conducive in this free-for-all environment to simply start up a new gambling site every week (or even day) to post a thread on the forum, put out some signature campaign^*, and continually exit scam gamblers^{^} on account of the lack of prerequisites to freely advertise on this site. Alongside how alt accounts of rulebreakers are effectively unpunished until found by forum members (if even that, given time delays and manual checks) and how long members persist and have presence despite negative feedback/reputation... we're living in a time of blissful ignorance.

Plus, no one who comes upon a new thread in the gambling section (guest or not) will receive any warning about established/unestablished sites. Best you have is viewing the yellow flag as a guest (i.e. 1xbit) though I would expect it to be displayed in a more pronounced manner. If you expect guests to have no idea about the forum dynamics, what's to say they haven't simply skimmed past the yellow flag as a rare occurrence?

As it currently stands, the post-hoc deterrence of flags seems like a roundabout prevention mechanism especially without any limit to account, thread, post, or scam creation. Oh well: we can keep tagging people who scam for a few hundred bucks.

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