The AdkinsBET Army of Alts

[actmyname]

they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

Especially the latter user, who has posted some very strange things, presumably a dox attempt. This was a veiled threat regarding the KYC information provided by those that did "image damage", since there were at least two instances of real-name accounts having been registered and having replied to Adkins-related threads.

Check out their deleted posts between Jan 18 (CET) to Jan 21.

[DireWolfM14]

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=373301  ronaldo40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79831   msarro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669236  Lavander
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=418797  MonsterV
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117350  Zackgeno96
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378112  safari88
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=893313  bunglor
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858014  ufaiz50

Like others, I'm wondering why those accounts got temp-banned while many other have not.  It appears that none of the accounts I listed in the OP have received a ban, but they're all guilty of shilling and trolling.  It makes me think there's something connecting these accounts that was apparent to the mods or admin.  If that is the case I'm curious how these accounts were connected, but not the ones mentioned in the OP.

I suppose they all could have received temp-bans coincidentally without necessarily being connected to one another, but that seems unlikely.  I fear we may never know the reasons or justification behind the bans.

[Adzivu]

they have two other shill accounts currently with SB avatars and signatures - BitcoinAccepted and Cacingkemi.

Especially the latter user, who has posted some very strange things, presumably a dox attempt. This was a veiled threat regarding the KYC information provided by those that did "image damage", since there were at least two instances of real-name accounts having been registered and having replied to Adkins-related threads.

Check out their deleted posts between Jan 18 (CET) to Jan 21.

Yeah, he was mentioning someone in Montenegro.
Gave his addres and all. I noticed that posts got deleted. Now I know why.

[TwitchySeal]

More evidence from last active time that at least these 3 accounts (who had sig ban) are controlled by same person.



Name: Zackgeno96
Posts:   3426
Activity:   1204
Merit:   518
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   May 12, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:35:34 AM


Name: bunglor
Posts:   631
Activity:   631
Merit:   104
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   August 28, 2016, 05:52:34 AM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:36:00 AM

Name: Lavander
Posts:   369
Activity:   369
Merit:   101
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   November 29, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Last Active:   April 03, 2021, 08:36:14 AM

https://archive.is/wip/wstnI
https://archive.is/wip/xu8op
https://archive.is/wip/6wpT0

[actmyname]

Good luck finding someone who suffered a written agreement with "mikelsmith2020"

It's okay for victims to create red Flags for confirmed alt accounts of a scammer:

Can I also create a scammer flag for alt-accounts of the contract violator? Example: BetKing.io violated a contract, but BetKing Support, dean nolan and PocketRocketsCasino are his alt-accounts.

Yes, one of the victims can.

Nice to recall this post.

Unfortunately for users that can't see the type-1 flags, the yellow banner is the only active one on that thread. I assume that if a type-2/3 flag shows up, then there might be another switch. Would be nice to find out!

[morvillz7z]

source: https://www.redirect-checker.org

>>> https://adkinsbet.com

> --------------------------------------------
> 301 Moved Permanently
> --------------------------------------------
Status:   301 Moved Permanently
Code:   301
Date:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:34:59 GMT
Connection:   close
Cache-Control:   max-age=3600
Expires:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:34:59 GMT
Location:   https://coins777.com

Earlier today i was getting the following:



Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

[notblox1]

Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

I am not surprised to see this happening and I tagged those accounts last year for making fake provably fair claims and their withdrawals was not working on their websites.
Happy to see that Adkinscambet website is finally down and people are saved from losing money there.

[DireWolfM14]

Happy to see that Adkinscambet website is finally down and people are saved from losing money there.

I wouldn't start jumping for joy just yet.  @morvillz7z post only shows that these guys have been at it for sometime, and when things get sticky they cut ties with on name and move on to another.

For example, let's check out the newest sportsbook to show up in the gambling section; BETOP.GG.  Well, they seem legit enough.  The OP is cordial, answering questions and referring potential clients to their terms of service.  Terms of service that seem remarkably similar to those of Sportsbet.io.  So simlar, I would go as far as to call them plagiarized...

I'll just quote one part of each company's ToS for brevity.  Here's the "General" portion of Sportbet's Tos:

1. General
1.1.     These terms and conditions ("Terms and Conditions") apply to both wagering sports and the use of casino-style games accessible through www.Sportsbet.io.
1.2.      Sportsbet.io is owned and operated by mBet Solutions NV (Schout Bij Nacht Doormanweg 40, P.O. Box 4745, Curaçao). It is licensed and regulated by the Government of Curaçao under the gaming license 1668/JAZ. Some payment methods are handled by its wholly owned subsidiary, mProcessing Solutions Ltd, Cyprus (Menandrou 4, 1066, Nicosia, Cyprus).
1.3.      These Terms and Conditions come into force as soon as you complete the registration process, which includes checking the box accepting these Terms and Conditions and successfully creating an account. By using any part of the Website following account creation, you agree to these Terms and Conditions.
1.4.      You must read these Terms and Conditions carefully in their entirety before creating an account. If you do not agree with any provision of these Terms and Conditions, you must not create an account or continue to use the Website.
1.5.      We are entitled to make amendments to these Terms and Conditions at any time and without advanced notice. If we make such amendments, we may take appropriate steps to bring such changes to your attention (such as by email or placing a notice on a prominent position on the Website, together with the amended terms and conditions) but it shall be your sole responsibility to check for any amendments, updates and/or modifications. Your continued use of the Sportsbet.io services and Website after any such amendment to the Terms and Conditions will be deemed as your acceptance and agreement to be bound by such amendments, updates and/or modifications.
1.6.      These Terms and Conditions may be published in several languages for informational purposes and ease of access by players. The English version is the only legal basis of the relationship between you and us and in the case of any discrepancy with respect to a translation of any kind, the English version of these Terms and Conditions shall prevail.

And here's the "General" portion of BETOP's ToS:

1.1.     These terms and conditions ("Terms and Conditions") apply to both wagering sports and the use of casino-style games accessible through www.BETOP.GG.

1.3.      These Terms and Conditions come into force as soon as you complete the registration process, which includes checking the box accepting these Terms and Conditions and successfully creating an account. By using any part of the Website following account creation, you agree to these Terms and Conditions.

1.4.      You must read these Terms and Conditions carefully in their entirety before creating an account. If you do not agree with any provision of these Terms and Conditions, you must not create an account or continue to use the Website.

1.5.      We are entitled to make amendments to these Terms and Conditions at any time and without advanced notice. If we make such amendments, we may take appropriate steps to bring such changes to your attention (such as by email or placing a notice on a prominent position on the Website, together with the amended terms and conditions) but it shall be your sole responsibility to check for any amendments, updates and/or modifications. Your continued use of the BETOP.GG services and Website after any such amendment to the Terms and Conditions will be deemed as your acceptance and agreement to be bound by such amendments, updates and/or modifications.

1.6.      These Terms and Conditions may be published in several languages for informational purposes and ease of access by players. The English version is the only legal basis of the relationship between you and us and in the case of any discrepancy with respect to a translation of any kind, the English version of these Terms and Conditions shall prevail.

[Archive]

Note how Section 1.2 is (comically) missing from BETOP's ToS?  Now go back and read section 1.2 from Sportsbet's ToS, and you'll likely know why BETOP omitted it from their own, but they forgot to adjust the section numbers, lol.  Couldn't make this shit up.

Now, please don't get me wrong.  I'm not claiming that BETOP.GG is owned and operated by the same folks as AdkinsSCAM, there's no way to prove that.  There does seem to be some coincidence with the timing.  We all know how the AdkinsFOOLS were absolutely obsessed with Sportsbet.io.  If mimicking is the sincerest form of flattery, I guess Sportsbet.io should take it as a complement when some one plagiarizes their ToS.

[TwitchySeal]

source: https://www.redirect-checker.org

>>> https://adkinsbet.com

> --------------------------------------------
> 301 Moved Permanently
> --------------------------------------------
Status:   301 Moved Permanently
Code:   301
Date:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:34:59 GMT
Connection:   close
Cache-Control:   max-age=3600
Expires:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:34:59 GMT
Location:   https://coins777.com

Earlier today i was getting the following:



Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

coins777 and CRYPSINO appears to be connected, both threads are started by the same guy - bittrafficme

The guy that runs those two sites is such scum.  Fwiw, he tried to auction off both casinos a couple months ago, doesn't appear he was successful.   

Hello,
2 casinos for sale.

2 casino website projects (licensed software, domains, social accounts, support, etc) for sale. 1 tear online.

For more details please PM.

Starting price: 0.3 BTC

Auction ends: January 15, 2021

---
Q&A

Why are you selling?
- I have been working with cryptocurrencies since 2013.  I tried the casino area. I didn’t like being a casino owner (it interferes with other jobs).

How much I can earn?
- It depends on how much you spend on advertising. Approximately plus 100 percent.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305050.msg55975546#msg55975546

[morvillz7z]

Note how Section 1.2 is (comically) missing from BETOP's ToS?  Now go back and read section 1.2 from Sportsbet's ToS, and you'll likely know why BETOP omitted it from their own, but they forgot to adjust the section numbers, lol.  Couldn't make this shit up.

Good find! They seem to have been in a hurry to set it up and go online, but clearly missed cleaning a few spots, a rush job at best! 

[actmyname]

This clause is also something of interest.

"13.9.    If you are unsatisfied with any matter relating to a bet with BETOP.GG, please notify BETOP.GG within 7 days in writing after the transaction has occurred. Notifications made after the 7 day period will be disregarded. In the unlikely event of a discrepancy between the result that appears on your device and the results in the transaction logs in our system, you agree that the results in our system's transaction logs verified by an officer of BETOP.GG shall be final, conclusive and binding."

I'm a fan of seeing these "casino overrules everything" pieces of ToS.

[AB de Royse777]

This BETOP.GG, did you guys found any connection with AdkinsBET or you are just dissecting their T&C?

Good find! They seem to have been in a hurry to set it up and go online, but clearly missed cleaning a few spots, a rush job at best! 

Part of or the entire terms has been copied and pasted from sportsbet.io I guess.

"13.9.    If you are unsatisfied with any matter relating to a bet with BETOP.GG, please notify BETOP.GG within 7 days in writing after the transaction has occurred. Notifications made after the 7 day period will be disregarded. In the unlikely event of a discrepancy between the result that appears on your device and the results in the transaction logs in our system, you agree that the results in our system's transaction logs verified by an officer of BETOP.GG shall be final, conclusive and binding."

I'm a fan of seeing these "casino overrules everything" pieces of ToS.

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

[decodx]

Adkins shills haven't posted in a few days, server down, now URL redirects to another casino, did they close shop?

So it's over now, AdkinsBet is down? Oh, thank God!

It's important to note that the domain is redirected to another, already-known SCAM casino: coins777.
I wonder how many of them he's running?!

[Adzivu]

They also locked their thread.

I guess we know why.

[stompix]

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

How many people would go to court with a fake casino?
Let's be honest here, the gamblers that play huge sums of money don't do this on shady ones and just one tiny percentage of them would think of legal action, but that only if they know they have a chance to win and get their money back. Nobody would believe such a thing when it comes to these ones.

Those terms and conditions are usually put there just an excuse, a shady business could simply invent something and do the same without invoking anything, they know that those terms are illegal, check what some reputable exchanges have as ToS, what every miner reseller has, many would fall under the Unfair contract terms definition in the EU but they don't care, as they didn't plan on obeying the laws in the first place

As for the similarities between Adkinsbet and this new one, there is a way to prove they are run by scammers  , just make a deposit!

Now, please don't get me wrong.  I'm not claiming that BETOP.GG is owned and operated by the same folks as AdkinsSCAM, there's no way to prove that.

I've always wondered what proof you can get to link to business together unless you have some access to documents as law enforcement.
For every detail uncovered, they can claim it was an employee mistake, a coincidence, a hacked account, and so on and you have no way to prove they are lying. If they have more than the minimum intelligence required to be classified as a mammal they will get away with it in the eyes of their possible victims, and we all know they aren't targeting users like the ones active in the reputation board or veterans of the gambling board.

[decodx]

As for the similarities between Adkinsbet and this new one, there is a way to prove they are run by scammers  , just make a deposit!

I'm tempted... It'd be a small price to pay. 

By the way, what will the alt-shiller army do now? They lost their jobs.

[actmyname]

I've always wondered what proof you can get to link to business together unless you have some access to documents as law enforcement.
For every detail uncovered, they can claim it was an employee mistake, a coincidence, a hacked account, and so on and you have no way to prove they are lying. If they have more than the minimum intelligence required to be classified as a mammal they will get away with it in the eyes of their possible victims, and we all know they aren't targeting users like the ones active in the reputation board or veterans of the gambling board.

Businesses are large structures with many points of failure and thus any smart group would use plausible deniability at every step, pushing it away from associating with the entirety of the image rather than a one-off employee incident or otherwise.

[AB de Royse777]

It makes me angry to be honest. I don't think legally they can put such things, or we would not see cases on the court and in some events the overruling of casinos appeal.

How many people would go to court with a fake casino?

Not many and the bookies take this weakness to make their money. However, I have seen few cases went in the court and the punters got the favour most of the time. If more and more gamblers would be serious about their money then we might see more cases and these bookies could be more careful in conducting their fake business.

[TwitchySeal]

Checked up on a few of the shill accounts.  Except for the two in red, M16 and gadado, none of these have posted (or they deleted their posts) since mid-late March.  Yet they've all been active this month.

gadado and M16 have been active more recently, and both are now sporting a spiffy new web cam/sex site ad in their signature (jangacams).

Not going to post all the links, but I archived them all on archive.is within the last hour.  I grouped them by date to show which accounts are likely controlled by the same person.



bunglor May 01, 2021, 09:47:35 AM

safari88 May 02, 2021, 07:38:47 AM
ufaiz50 May 02, 2021, 10:01:21 AM
msarro    May 02, 2021, 10:47:35 AM

ronaldo40 May 07, 2021, 01:05:35 PM
MonsterV May 07, 2021, 01:07:13 PM
MI6 May 07, 2021, 01:08:09 PM  
gadado May 07, 2021, 01:12:32 PM


rugbytrader May 08, 2021, 03:15:07 AM

Lavander Today (May 9, 2021) at 01:33:14 PM
Zackgeno96 Today (May 9, 2021) at 01:42:34 PM

[Adzivu]

They are awake and promoting 1xbit now