Will Trump be indicted ?

[TwitchySeal]

As President, Trump has the unilateral authority to decide that documents were not classified.

Cool.  Are you saying he declassified everything before stealing it?  There's a process for declassifying documents that even Donald Trump would have to follow.  He can't just say "i declassified them back when I was president" If he declassified the documents, then all he has to worry about is stealing from the federal government, which, honestly probably isn't that much to worry about.  But I don't think the fbi would raid his home like that for declassified documents, and we already know that that the national archives had to go down to florida and retrieve 15 boxes of classified documents

Some of the "classified" documents the national archives says it retrieved previously was a latter from Obama to Trump as Obama was leaving the Presidency, and a letter from NK leader Kim Jun Un, both of which have been public for years.

Which was a violation of the Presidential Records Act.  When you're president, you don't get to keep stuff like that for yourself.

This raid on a former President that is a political opponent of the current regime is unprecedented in the United States. It is something that is common in third-world countries.

It's unprecedented for an outgoing president to steal classified documents.  If Trump is reelected, do you think Biden should be able to violate the presidential records act and just take whatever documents or gifts home with him without consequence?  Should the president be held accountable for breaking the law, or should the DOJ never hold former presidents accountable.

So I guess it's either time to go visit vlad or announce he's running for President again.

Trump threatened to bomb Moscow if Putin tried to invade Ukraine.

Putin helped Trump get elected.  Trump praises Putin all the time.  Trumps 2016 campaign chair literally worked for the former president of Ukraine that was overthrown for being one of Putins puppets.  Do the math.

Biden's energy policy has resulted in the invasion of Ukraine profitable for Putin, even after accounting for sanctions, and Moscow selling gas at below market prices (and the cost of the war itself).

Don't be so gullible.

Actually, the Russian Economy Is Imploding
Nine myths about the effects of sanctions and business retreats, debunked.


Russia’s economy ‘only growing weaker’

Russia faces ‘economic oblivion’ despite claims of short-term resilience, economists say

Business Retreats and Sanctions Are Crippling the Russian Economy
Jeffrey Sonnenfeld
Yale School of Management

Steven Tian
Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute

Franek Sokolowski
Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute

Michal Wyrebkowski
Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute

Mateusz Kasprowicz
Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute

Date Written: July 19, 2022
Abstract
As the Russian invasion of Ukraine enters into its fifth month, a common narrative has emerged that the unity of the world in standing up to Russia has somehow devolved into a “war of economic attrition which is taking its toll on the west”, given the supposed “resilience” and even “prosperity” of the Russian economy. This is simply untrue – and a reflection of widely held but factually incorrect misunderstandings over how the Russian economy is actually holding up amidst the exodus of over 1,000 global companies and international sanctions.

That these misunderstandings persist is not surprising. Since the invasion, the Kremlin’s economic releases have become increasingly cherry-picked, selectively tossing out unfavorable metrics while releasing only those that are more favorable. These Putin-selected statistics are then carelessly trumpeted across media and used by reams of well-meaning but careless experts in building out forecasts which are excessively, unrealistically favorable to the Kremlin.

Our team of experts, using private Russian language and unconventional data sources including high frequency consumer data, cross-channel checks, releases from Russia’s international trade partners, and data mining of complex shipping data, have released one of the first comprehensive economic analyses measuring Russian current economic activity five months into the invasion, and assessing Russia’s economic outlook.

From our analysis, it becomes clear: business retreats and sanctions are catastrophically crippling the Russian economy. We tackle a wide range of common misperceptions – and shed light on what is actually going on inside Russia, including:

- Russia’s strategic positioning as a commodities exporter has irrevocably deteriorated, as it now deals from a position of weakness with the loss of its erstwhile main markets, and faces steep challenges executing a “pivot to Asia” with non-fungible exports such as piped gas

- Despite some lingering leakiness, Russian imports have largely collapsed, and the country faces stark challenges securing crucial inputs, parts, and technology from hesitant trade partners, leading to widespread supply shortages within its domestic economy

- Despite Putin’s delusions of self-sufficiency and import substitution, Russian domestic production has come to a complete standstill with no capacity to replace lost businesses, products and talent; the hollowing out of Russia’s domestic innovation and production base has led to soaring prices and consumer angst

- As a result of the business retreat, Russia has lost companies representing ~40% of its GDP, reversing nearly all of three decades’ worth of foreign investment and buttressing unprecedented simultaneous capital and population flight in a mass exodus of Russia’s economic base

- Putin is resorting to patently unsustainable, dramatic fiscal and monetary intervention to smooth over these structural economic weaknesses, which has already sent his government budget into deficit for the first time in years and drained his foreign reserves even with high energy prices – and Kremlin finances are in much, much more dire straits than conventionally understood

- Russian domestic financial markets, as an indicator of both present conditions and future outlook, are the worst performing markets in the entire world this year despite strict capital controls, and have priced in sustained, persistent weakness within the economy with liquidity and credit contracting – in addition to Russia being substantively cut off from international financial markets, limiting its ability to tap into pools of capital needed for the revitalization of its crippled economy

Looking ahead, there is no path out of economic oblivion for Russia as long as the allied countries remain unified in maintaining and increasing sanctions pressure against Russia, and The Kyiv School of Economics and McFaul-Yermak Working Group have led the way in proposing additional sanctions measures.

Defeatist headlines arguing that Russia’s economy has bounced back are simply not factual - the facts are that, by any metric and on any level, the Russian economy is reeling, and now is not the time to step on the brakes.

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[OgNasty]

It is a little bit crazy that the FBI had people in the crowd encouraging the riot and are now using the riot as a reason to search a previous president's residence.  I don't understand why they are so afraid of Trump that they go through such lengths at the risk of being exposed for the corrupt participants of the system that they are.  I've never liked Trump as a person.  I think about the only thing he does right is his policies, but if you can't see that our government is engineering a recession and hiring IRS agents to squeeze the middle class into reliance on the government providing a universal income by now, you need to start thinking for yourself.  

[TwitchySeal]

It is a little bit crazy that the FBI had people in the crowd encouraging the riot

Did you fall for the ridiculous Ray Epps conspiracy theory?  Or is there another one I missed.

I don't understand why they are so afraid of Trump that they go through such lengths at the risk of being exposed for the corrupt participants of the system that they are.  

What if....Trump did take a bunch of classified documents with him to Florida, and he only gave back some of them last year and refused to return the rest.  What do you think the FBI should do?  Should they recover the documents and hold him accountable?  Or just allow a civilian without the required security clearance keep classified documents?

What would you say if Biden stole a bunch of classified documents after Trump was reelected?

[TwitchySeal]

Some of the "classified" documents the national archives says it retrieved previously was a latter from Obama to Trump as Obama was leaving the Presidency, and a letter from NK leader Kim Jun Un, both of which have been public for years.

Well, looks like some of the "classified" documents the FBI seized were "classified/top secret/sensitive compartmented information".  Basically as top secret as it gets.  He had boxes and boxes of them, sitting in his basement. And no, it doesn't matter if he declassified them

He could have given them back a year ago when they asked nicely.
Or a few months ago when he was subpoenaed.
Or a few weeks ago when officials flew down to ask in person.

And no, if the documents have anything to do with national security (which is what the warrant said), it doesn't matter if he declassified them (and he probably didn't actually declassify them).  Hiding sensitive government records related to national security in your basement is called espionage.

You've really got to be brainwashed or just have the most delicate ego to ever exist if you aren't able to lo admit that if this guy actually did half the things he's being accused of he should be in prison, not the White House.

In the coming months he could be realistically indicted in three separate cases:  

Federal charges for violations of the Pres Records and Espionage act
Federal charges for seditious conspiracy and defrauding the Government
State charges in Georgia for criminal solicitation to commit election fraud, racketeering and conspiracy






https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/12/us/politics/trump-search-warrant-document.html

[TheNineClub]

As I read or watched somewhere, this will get dragged through the courts as Trump has an army of lawyers and can afford it. And it will last so far as to him running for president again. And that's all if they find anything relevant ot accuse him.

[BADecker]

Indicted doesn't mean guilty. The whole scheme of anybody who is attacking Trump, has to do with reducing his popularity to such a low point that they have a chance of getting somebody else into the Presidency.

So far, the actions of his opponents is only serving to strengthen his popularity.

[TwitchySeal]

And that's all if they find anything relevant ot accuse him.

Oh you missed the part where the FBI had to physically go to his basement to recover classified documents that he stole and refused to return on the way out of the white house.

Or when he tried to convince the Governor and SS of Georgia to give him 11,780 votes so he wouldn't lose.

Or when he found out his crowd on Jan 6 was being reduced because so many had guns and there were metal detectors, he demanded the metal detectors be removed 'I don't fucking care that they have weapons. They're not here to hurt me'.  Then he ordered the crowd to march to the capital and fight like hell.  And while they were fighting like hell chanting 'hang mike pence' he tweeted "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution"

Then there's the electoral college fraud where he organized a bunch of republicans to submit fake electoral votes for him.

Oh and he also scammed $250 million from donors for a "stop the steal" fund that didn't exist to stop the democrats from stealing an election he knew wasn't stolen.

Indicted doesn't mean guilty. The whole scheme of anybody who is attacking Trump, has to do with reducing his popularity to such a low point that they have a chance of getting somebody else into the Presidency.

So far, the actions of his opponents is only serving to strengthen his popularity.

I expect the Trump supporters more intelligent than you (most of them around these parts) will have to resort to these type of vague defenses more and more in the coming weeks.  Maybe some of them will wake up, realize they're turning into BADecker and drop the cult mentality...who knows.

[Gyfts]

He could have given them back a year ago when they asked nicely.
Or a few months ago when he was subpoenaed.
Or a few weeks ago when officials flew down to ask in person.

Are you aware that they "asked him nicely"? Or that they even asked at all? Who is the source of these claims? Do you believe the same FBI that used oppo research sourced by Russians in 2016 which started Russia gate are to be trusted in their claims? Better yet, do you think Merrick Garland should be trusted?

Raiding the former President's private home for classified documents -- I'm sure this had nothing to do with politics. Apparently a 4 year Russian collusion witch hunt and two impeachments isn't enough. Raid the man's private home when he isn't President anymore, and then present some nonsensical cover story about classified documents. FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

[TwitchySeal]

He could have given them back a year ago when they asked nicely.
Or a few months ago when he was subpoenaed.
Or a few weeks ago when officials flew down to ask in person.

Are you aware that they "asked him nicely"? Or that they even asked at all? Who is the source of these claims?

Yeah.  By ask nicely, I mean without a subpoena or search warrant.  Google statements by the National Archives.

Do you believe the same FBI that used oppo research sourced by Russians in 2016 which started Russia gate are to be trusted in their claims?

Well that's objectively false.

The investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia was started because George Papadopoulos got drunk and bragged about Russia having dirt on Hillary Clinton to an Australian diplomat who then informed US intelligence.  

There were a bunch of other red flags, like Trumps decision to chair his campaign with the same guy that helped Viktor Yanukovych get elected in Ukraine.  You know, the President that was run out of the country for putting Russia before his own.

The idea that the Steel dossier was what started the investigation, or even that it was useful to the FBI is ridiculous.  The only reason you think it's true is because Trump said it over and over and you've decided to be willfully ignorant by refusing to do your own objective research.  It's a lie.  It's not based in reality.  

Better yet, do you think Merrick Garland should be trusted?

Yeah, I think he's about as trustworthy as a AG can get.

Raiding the former President's private home for classified documents -- I'm sure this had nothing to do with politics.

And I'm sure I'm going to keep hearing these lame, vague attempts to defend Trump since approaching the case rationally only leads to conclusions that you don't want to be true.

Apparently a 4 year Russian collusion witch hunt and two impeachments isn't enough. Raid the man's private home when he isn't President anymore, and then present some nonsensical cover story about classified documents. FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

So you still have a problem with Hillarys handling of emails, while at the same time defending Trump keeping boxes of classified documents in his basement....I'm sure your opinion has nothing to do with the fact you just don't like Democrats.

How about Trumps own daughter and son in law using gmail accounts from her official White House office?  Wouldn't it be better they used personal servers than give access to a liberal third party mega corporation?

[suchmoon]

FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

So... is it wrong or not? Or is it only wrong when Hillary does it? As is typical with whataboutism "defense" you need to admit that the person you're defending is wrong, or that the aforementioned whataboutism is useless here. Which is it?

[TwitchySeal]

FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

So... is it wrong or not? Or is it only wrong when Hillary does it? As is typical with whataboutism "defense" you need to admit that the person you're defending is wrong, or that the aforementioned whataboutism is useless here. Which is it?

(also, they were very concerned)

(also, also, the current director of the FBI was hand picked by Trump)

[Gyfts]

Yeah.  By ask nicely, I mean without a subpoena or search warrant.  Google statements by the National Archives.

And do we know whether the documents were declassified or not besides what the federal government claims? Trump's attorney's were in contact with the feds. Is there evidence that Trump's attorney's were not in cooperation and ceased communications?

The National Archives is an institution, not a person. I don't expect any detailed specifics from them.

Andrew Cuomo seems concerned about this: https://twitter.com/andrewcuomo/status/1556990308424028163

If it's this bad that someone like Cuomo is the contrarian, you know the DoJ has gone rogue.

The investigation into ties between the Trump campaign and Russia was started because George Papadopoulos got drunk and bragged about Russia having dirt on Hillary Clinton to an Australian diplomat who then informed US intelligence.

Drunken statements were the start of an investigation that lasted 4 years, expended no less than 50 million USD, and resulted in zero charges related to coordination, collusion, or cooperation with the Russians. You don't unironically believe this do you?

The idea that the Steel dossier was what started the investigation, or even that it was useful to the FBI is ridiculous.  The only reason you think it's true is because Trump said it over and over and you've decided to be willfully ignorant by refusing to do your own objective research.  It's a lie.  It's not based in reality.

Right, was useless. Which is why the FBI interviewed Steele and used him as a sub source for FISA warrants: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/February%209,%202017%20Electronic%20Communication.pdf

IG released a lengthy report on the matter - https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

Investigation was a sham.
 

And I'm sure I'm going to keep hearing these lame, vague attempts to defend Trump since approaching the case rationally only leads to conclusions that you don't want to be true.

I don't particularly care about Trump. I figured after 4 years of the media lying to you about Trump/Russian collusion you'd catch on that they don't actually have anything on him, and are attacking him because of political animus.

So you still have a problem with Hillarys handling of emails, while at the same time defending Trump keeping boxes of classified documents in his basement....I'm sure your opinion has nothing to do with the fact you just don't like Democrats.

How about Trumps own daughter and son in law using gmail accounts from her official White House office?  Wouldn't it be better they used personal servers than give access to a liberal third party mega corporation?

I don't have any problem with Clinton's emails. It was merely part and parcel of her incompetence. I am only pointing out the double standard. Because it seems only years later that the left is concerned about classified information. You all didn't care much then.

When Trump's children disobey a subpoena from Congress, use bleach bit to delete thousands of emails, and have classified information from private email servers hacked, then perhaps you might have a suitable comparison.

FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

So... is it wrong or not? Or is it only wrong when Hillary does it? As is typical with whataboutism "defense" you need to admit that the person you're defending is wrong, or that the aforementioned whataboutism is useless here. Which is it?

Yes. It is wrong to mistreat classified information. I also would call it contemptable to raid Hillary Clinton's private home with armed FBI agents under authority of the federal government from the opposing party. Seem unreasonable?

[suchmoon]

Yes. It is wrong to mistreat classified information. I also would call it contemptable to raid Hillary Clinton's private home with armed FBI agents under authority of the federal government from the opposing party. Seem unreasonable?

How about this: the federal government does not belong to a "party".

[Gyfts]

Yes. It is wrong to mistreat classified information. I also would call it contemptable to raid Hillary Clinton's private home with armed FBI agents under authority of the federal government from the opposing party. Seem unreasonable?

How about this: the federal government does not belong to a "party".

In theory. Whoever's in charge of the Presidency runs the show unfortunately. I'm all for reducing the size and power the government.

[BADecker]

Yes. It is wrong to mistreat classified information. I also would call it contemptable to raid Hillary Clinton's private home with armed FBI agents under authority of the federal government from the opposing party. Seem unreasonable?

How about this: the federal government does not belong to a "party".

In theory. Whoever's in charge of the Presidency runs the show unfortunately. I'm all for reducing the size and power the government.

Look up Ammon Bundy and his group. They forcefully commandeered a Bureau of Land Management wildlife facility in Oregon some years ago. The jury let them go free - https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ammon-bundy-long-testimony-swayed-ore-jury-acquit-article-1.2848300.

The point is that the jury rules, not the President, although he can make it difficult for the jury.

[PrimeNumber7]

Some of the "classified" documents the national archives says it retrieved previously was a latter from Obama to Trump as Obama was leaving the Presidency, and a letter from NK leader Kim Jun Un, both of which have been public for years.

Well, looks like some of the "classified" documents the FBI seized were "classified/top secret/sensitive compartmented information".  Basically as top secret as it gets.  He had boxes and boxes of them, sitting in his basement. And no, it doesn't matter if he declassified them

You just listed all of the potential classification categories that the government could have given the documents. It is well known that the government tends to overclassify documents that really do not need to be classified.

Trump had the ultimate authority to declassify the documents in question. It would be stupid for Trump to not declassify a document he intended to bring to his home -- it is trivial for him to declassify a document.

And no, if the documents have anything to do with national security (which is what the warrant said), it doesn't matter if he declassified them (and he probably didn't actually declassify them).  Hiding sensitive government records related to national security in your basement is called espionage.

I have not seen any evidence the documents in question would threaten national security if released to the public.

He could have given them back a year ago when they asked nicely.
Or a few months ago when he was subpoenaed.
Or a few weeks ago when officials flew down to ask in person.

Are you aware that they "asked him nicely"? Or that they even asked at all? Who is the source of these claims? Do you believe the same FBI that used oppo research sourced by Russians in 2016 which started Russia gate are to be trusted in their claims? Better yet, do you think Merrick Garland should be trusted?

Raiding the former President's private home for classified documents -- I'm sure this had nothing to do with politics. Apparently a 4 year Russian collusion witch hunt and two impeachments isn't enough. Raid the man's private home when he isn't President anymore, and then present some nonsensical cover story about classified documents. FBI didn't seem to concerned about classified documents on a private email server with Hillary Clinton, did they? Wonder what changed.

If the documents were such a threat to national security, there is no reason why the FBI would have waited over a month to get a warrant.

[TwitchySeal]

The idea that the Steel dossier was what started the investigation, or even that it was useful to the FBI is ridiculous.  The only reason you think it's true is because Trump said it over and over and you've decided to be willfully ignorant by refusing to do your own objective research.  It's a lie.  It's not based in reality.

Right, was useless. Which is why the FBI interviewed Steele and used him as a sub source for FISA warrants: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/February%209,%202017%20Electronic%20Communication.pdf

IG released a lengthy report on the matter - https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

Investigation was a sham.

Ok teachable moment here.

So, when that report first came out, Trump said essentially the same thing.  That it was proof the investigation was a sham.  And then lots of republicans and right wing media repeated the same thing.  And because the report was lengthy, like you said, many people just believed them, instead of reading the report.  Like you.  The same thing happened with the Mueller report.  You believed what Trump said without reading the report, and as a result, you believe a lot of things that aren't true.  The Mueller report is much more complicated which makes it much easier for you to argue in circles than in the case of this IG report.  

You think the IG report shows that the Investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and ties between Russia and the Trump campaign was a sham, I say the opposite is true.

How about you take my hand and we can see what the IG report says according to the report itself, instead of according to Trump and the media reports you relied on up till now?

Click your link and scroll alllll the way down to page 350, second to last paragraph:

We therefore concluded the FBI met the requirement in the AG Guidelines
and the DIOG that Crossfire Hurricane be opened for an "authorized purpose,"
namely "to detect, obtain information about, or prevent or protect against federal
crimes or threats to the national security or to collect foreign intelligence." We also
determined that, although the investigation had the potential to impact
constitutionally protected activity, the FBI's decision to open the investigation was
permissible under both Department and FBI policies because there was a legitimate
law enforcement purpose associated with the investigation.

Shocking huh?  The report is saying the exact opposite of what you just said it said.  See what I mean about this being a simple case of you being wrong?  But wait, there's more, scroll down two more pages to page 352:

we concluded that the FFG information, provided
by a government the USIC deems trustworthy, and describing a first-hand account
from an FFG employee of the content of a conversation with Papadopoulos, was
sufficient to predicate the full counterintelligence investigation because it provided
the FBI an articulable factual basis that, if true, reasonably indicated activity
constituting either a federal crime or a threat to national security may have
occurred or may be occurring. 485
We similarly concluded that the FBI had sufficient predication to open full
counterintelligence investigations of Papadopoulos, Page, Flynn, and Manafort in
August 2016. The investigation of Papadopoulos was predicated upon his alleged
statements in May 2016 to an employee of the FFG. According to the opening EC,
Papadopoulos was "identical to the individual who made statements indicating that
he is knowledgeable that the Russians made a suggestion to the Trump team that
they could assist the Trump campaign with an anonymous release of information
during the campaign that would be damaging to the Clinton campaign." The three
other cases were predicated on information developed by the Crossfire Hurricane
team through law enforcement database and open source searches, conducted to
determine which individuals associated with the Trump campaign may have been in
a position to have received the alleged offer of assistance from Russia. As
described in Chapter Three, through these efforts, the Crossfire Hurricane team
identified three individuals-Page, Manafort, and Flynn-associated with the Trump
campaign with either ties to Russia or a history of travel to Russia, two of whom
(Page and Manafort) were already the subjects of open FBI investigations
pertaining to, in part, their Russia-related activities. The FBI determined that this
information, taken together with the information from the FFG indicating Russia had
made a suggestion to the Trump team that it could assist by releasing information
damaging to candidate Clinton, stated an articulable factual basis reasonably
indicating activity may be occurring that may constitute a federal crime or a threat
to national security

Trump lied to you. You fell for it. It wasn't the first time, or the last. Remember that before you decide to keep defending him having all those documents in his basement.

Some of the "classified" documents the national archives says it retrieved previously was a latter from Obama to Trump as Obama was leaving the Presidency, and a letter from NK leader Kim Jun Un, both of which have been public for years.

Well, looks like some of the "classified" documents the FBI seized were "classified/top secret/sensitive compartmented information".  Basically as top secret as it gets.  He had boxes and boxes of them, sitting in his basement. And no, it doesn't matter if he declassified them

You just listed all of the potential classification categories that the government could have given the documents. It is well known that the government tends to overclassify documents that really do not need to be classified.

No, I listed the the classification of the documents seized from Trumps house.

Are you arguing that a president should be able to steal classified documents and then keep them in his basement after he leaves office because it's well known the government tends to overclassify documents?  Do you really think setting that precedent would be anything but completely retarded?

Trump had the ultimate authority to declassify the documents in question. It would be stupid for Trump to not declassify a document he intended to bring to his home -- it is trivial for him to declassify a document.

Yes he did have that authority.  But he did not have the authority to steal them and keep them in his basement after he left office.  Also, none of the laws cited in the search warrant, like the espionage act for example, are dependent on whether or not the documents were classified.

Of course, Trump will continue to pretend like this whole case is about whether or not he declassified the documents he stole and kept in his basement, and then you will continue to repeat what he says, and I will continue to remind you that by repeating Trumps nonsense you're arguing that a President has the power to take any document he wants from any of the intelligence agencies and keep it for himself as a civilian - which is obviously a really freaking stupid argument.

And no, if the documents have anything to do with national security (which is what the warrant said), it doesn't matter if he declassified them (and he probably didn't actually declassify them).  Hiding sensitive government records related to national security in your basement is called espionage.

I have not seen any evidence the documents in question would threaten national security if released to the public.

The FBI raided his home and then unsealed the warrant and receipt of what was seized.  That's the evidence.  

[sirazimuth]

finally....

[Hispo]

finally....

I just read the news after I realized there was a lot of activity on Twitter, from both allies and detractors of Trump.

Things were already heating up in the political ground of the United States, with all the debate on gun control and civil liberties, but this may take things to a new level.

I still believe nothing will happen to Trump (for now) since among all the investigations currently going on in USA, this one is the weakest of all; being the strongest one the alleged interference he wanted to take place in the presidential election in the state of Georgia.

Let us see what happens next...

[TwitchySeal]

Is it a coincidence that the US became a third world country the very moment Trump was indicted?  I think not.



Yes, that's the actual ad showing beneath his "truth" on his site that's just overflowing with "truth".

Must be a dream come true for the slimeball salesmen out there.

Yes, he said he's been indicated.  





No it's not the strongest case or that serious of a crime.  

But you don't want to fill yourself up on bread when the biggest ribeye you've ever seen is about to come off the grill and onto your plate.  Just have a bite or two and prepare yourself for the main course.