Will Trump be indicted ?

[sirazimuth]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?
There is mountains of evidence showing he broke New York state law.
So the DA does his job and indicts (and this charge is the least of Trump's worries. Stay tuned for much more serious up coming charges in various other jurisdictions, you know like planning an insurrection)
Oh yeah, it's all just a "political circus" . Well what a surprise!  Of course its a political circus. How could it not be? He's a former potus. So fucking what?
That doesn't change the fact there is mountains of evidence showing he BROKE THE FUCKING LAW.
And no one is above the law, not even failed business con men ex presidents ......
...Well that's the theory in the USA anyway. Sometimes I wonder though.

Now stay tuned for my buddy BADecker's Trump boot licking delusional reply  in 3...2...

[DooMAD]

Oh yeah, it's all just a "political circus" . Well what a surprise!  Of course its a political circus. How could it not be? He's a former potus. So fucking what?
That doesn't change the fact there is mountains of evidence showing he BROKE THE FUCKING LAW.

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team.  All of a sudden, the only thing that matters is that their "side" is winning.  They're blinded to 'legal' or 'illegal', 'right' and 'wrong'.  Their team has to win.  Trump's supporters don't care about how many laws he broke and they are more inclined to accept the fanciful notion that this is all somehow an act of persecution. 

[TwitchySeal]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?

In OGNastys defense...illegally covering up payments you made to influence the outcome of an election that you're running for president in isn't really that big of a deal compared to stealing classified documents and then lying about having them to the FBI, or trying to overthrow the government to remain in power after the people decided not to give you a second term.

As usual though, when it comes to defending Trump you will mostly get whatever short and easy-to-remember phrases they've heard repeating over and over and over that don't really add up to a real defense since it's usually completely obvious that he's guilty of whatever it is he's being accused of.  

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team. 

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[o48o]

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team.  All of a sudden, the only thing that matters is that their "side" is winning.  They're blinded to 'legal' or 'illegal', 'right' and 'wrong'.  Their team has to win.  Trump's supporters don't care about how many laws he broke and they are more inclined to accept the fanciful notion that this is all somehow an act of persecution. 

Tribalism always happens, there's no way to avoid it. But that doesn't even matter as law is blind and doesn't care what the cheerleaders say about their team or if they think something is legal or illegal, as that's not for them to decide.
If the team leader (no matter which side) breaks the law, district attorney decides how to proceed, as he/she is the expert on that field. Their jobs depend on them being neutral and it's not like they would like to lose their jobs..

[OgNasty]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?

In OGNastys defense...illegally covering up payments you made to influence the outcome of an election that you're running for president in isn't really that big of a deal compared to stealing classified documents and then lying about having them to the FBI, or trying to overthrow the government to remain in power after the people decided not to give you a second term.

As usual though, when it comes to defending Trump you will mostly get whatever short and easy-to-remember phrases they've heard repeating over and over and over that don't really add up to a real defense since it's usually completely obvious that he's guilty of whatever it is he's being accused of.  

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team. 

ding ding ding

If you think that Trump paying a porn star who signed an NDA is the worst thing a President has done, I’d suggest you open your eyes. Clinton lied under oath about cigar banging an intern. Biden has nearly started world war three to keep the world from finding out his family has made millions of dollars making back room deals with foreign countries… I won’t even touch on the election fraud and only an ignorant liberal would say Trump tried to stay in power when everything he was saying on Jan 6th was for people to remain peaceful and respect law enforcement. At this point if you’re still a supporter of Liberal politics you’re either A) an idiot, B) completely brainwashed, 3) mentally ill, or 4) you hate America.

[sirazimuth]

....I’d suggest you open your eyes. Clinton lied under oath about cigar banging an intern. Biden has nearly started world war three....

Whataboutism at it's finest.

[TwitchySeal]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?

In OGNastys defense...illegally covering up payments you made to influence the outcome of an election that you're running for president in isn't really that big of a deal compared to stealing classified documents and then lying about having them to the FBI, or trying to overthrow the government to remain in power after the people decided not to give you a second term.

As usual though, when it comes to defending Trump you will mostly get whatever short and easy-to-remember phrases they've heard repeating over and over and over that don't really add up to a real defense since it's usually completely obvious that he's guilty of whatever it is he's being accused of.  

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team.

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If you think that Trump paying a porn star who signed an NDA is the worst thing a President has done, I’d suggest you open your eyes.

I suggest you open your eyes and read the rest of my post explaining how the illegal payment to influence the outcome of an election is far from the worst thing trump has done.

I literally said it's "not that big of a deal"

[paxmao]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?

In OGNastys defense...illegally covering up payments you made to influence the outcome of an election that you're running for president in isn't really that big of a deal compared to stealing classified documents and then lying about having them to the FBI, or trying to overthrow the government to remain in power after the people decided not to give you a second term.

As usual though, when it comes to defending Trump you will mostly get whatever short and easy-to-remember phrases they've heard repeating over and over and over that don't really add up to a real defense since it's usually completely obvious that he's guilty of whatever it is he's being accused of.  

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team. 

ding ding ding

I would be very interested in understanding why he believes that the statute of limitations is somehow limiting the charges against Trump. I am however quite interested in knowing why the GA decided to go for him with this indictment first, as Trump has a pile of cases against him and others seem much more evident and easy to proof. My only guess is that the sexual component of this one does hurt the puritan base or the RP.

[TwitchySeal]

I would be very interested in understanding why he believes that the statute of limitations is somehow limiting the charges against Trump.

The statute of limitations is four years, which is up.  However NY State Law says the limitation is put on hold while a defendant is continuously out of the State.  Trump has been mostly in Florida or DC, so that's the prosecutors argument.  His defense will def argue that he maintained a residence in NY or something liek that though.

I am however quite interested in knowing why the GA decided to go for him with this indictment first, as Trump has a pile of cases against him and others seem much more evident and easy to proof. My only guess is that the sexual component of this one does hurt the puritan base or the RP.

The other cases are independent of this one - they don't work together.

Georgia State has grand jury about Trump trying to pressure their Governor and Sec of State to "find him votes" after the election was already certified.

And an independent prosecutor for the federal government has the Jan 6 and Stolen Documents cases.  THose two might end up lumped together in one indictment, or they could be two seperate charges, if he brings both.

So in 6 or so months, Trump could be preparing for trials in New York City, Atlanta, Florida and Washington DC all at the same time - while running for President.  

[BADecker]

The Dems might as well try anything... even placing Trump on trial. They are already dead regarding the 2024 election. So, they don't have anything to lose.

[Ayebabara]

The way I looked at it, what is happening to Trump is purely political, Trump was tried this week and after the trial he came to his campaign ground and gave his campaign speech. I am not from there so I have forgotten the name, a lady was asked to pay Trump a specific amount of money. Trump is a threat to the opposition party.

[sirazimuth]

Ever notice in political discussions, folks will use that worn out cliché term, "purely political" if they don't want to address the issue at hand?
Because you know... like it doesn't count, because it's "purely political", whatever dafuc that means...

[Hispo]

Ever notice in political discussions, folks will use that worn out cliché term, "purely political" if they don't want to address the issue at hand?
Because you know... like it doesn't count, because it's "purely political", whatever dafuc that means...

The scary thing in this situation is the fact there are people out there which actually believe someone can declassify documents by simply taking those papers home, disregarding the life of the American agents which could be compromised for that reckless act.

Or people who believe that pressuring a secretary of state to find votes or shredding machines to justify election fraud is okey, at this point in the eyes of several people, Donald could literally gun down anyone at noon in the middle of the fifth avenue and people would defend it and go along.

Makes me wonder, if the adult children of that man would also get into politics, once his father politically expires.

[BADecker]

The way I looked at it, what is happening to Trump is purely political, Trump was tried this week and after the trial he came to his campaign ground and gave his campaign speech. I am not from there so I have forgotten the name, a lady was asked to pay Trump a specific amount of money. Trump is a threat to the opposition party.

STORMY DANIELS ORDERED TO PAY TRUMP $122K


https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism-agenda-21-conspiracy/stormy-daniels-ordered-pay-trump-122k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKTYbgiRzrI
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[Jamala]

Indicting Trump would be the biggest witch hunt in American history. He deserves better. Just look at the mess Joe Biden is making of US with his foreign policies. They might have already convicted him before the trial. Should they fail, Trump will return to WH.

[BADecker]

Why did nobody indict Clinton?


PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON paid Paula Jones $850,000 to shut up about sexual harassment charges while he was in middle of impeachment hearings for affair with 19-yr-old intern… why was he never arrested?


https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-04-10-bill-clinton-paid-paula-jones-850000-hush-money-never-arrested.html
Yesterday, news broke that President Donald Trump could be indicted as soon as next week as a result of charges stemming from payments made to Stormy Daniels to keep an alleged affair between her and Trump quiet. Only hours ago, President Trump announced on his Truth Social account that he would be arrested on Tuesday.

(Article by Patty McMurray republished from 100PercentFedUp.com)
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Do you remember when former President Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850,000 to go away? Do you remember the FBI raiding his lawyer’s office? Well, that’s because the former happened and the latter did not.

In 1994, a former law clerk, Paula Jones, filed a lawsuit in a federal court in Little Rock, Arkansas, against President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment and defamation while he was the governor of Arkansas. In her suit, Jones asked for $700,000 in damages.

On November 13, 1998, President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Jones for $850,000, putting an end to a lengthy four 1/2-year battle between America’s most accused serial sexual assault President and Jones. Why would President Clinton give Jones $150,000 MORE than what she asked for in her lawsuit? We will never know because America’s dishonest media didn’t care. The corporate media, like the Clintons, just wanted the Jones case to go away, as Bill Clinton was in the initial stages of his impeachment trial over his repugnant affair with a young, 19-year-old White House intern, Monica Lewinsky.
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[Hispo]

Indicting Trump would be the biggest witch hunt in American history. He deserves better. Just look at the mess Joe Biden is making of US with his foreign policies. They might have already convicted him before the trial. Should they fail, Trump will return to WH.

When you talk about Biden's foreign policies you mean the way he is helping Ukraine, the alleged connections he and his family have with powerful people in China or the management of the support is being given to Taiwan?

Because I have seen people around on internet being critic about those three topics of the American foreign policy.

Also, I forgot the mention the fact Biden seems to be importing oil from nations which are historically hostile to America, I assume you also mean that?

[sirazimuth]

Why did nobody indict Clinton?


SNIPPED

I don’t know bud. Why did nobody indict Clinton?
Make sure you start yet another asinine thread (you’re good at that)
entitled “Why Did Nobody indict Clinton?” when you reply because
this thread topic is Trump indictment, so GTFO with your off topic outdated whataboutism spam.

[BADecker]

Why did nobody indict Clinton?


SNIPPED

I don’t know bud. Why did nobody indict Clinton?
Make sure you start yet another asinine thread (you’re good at that)
entitled “Why Did Nobody indict Clinton?” when you reply because
this thread topic is Trump indictment, so GTFO with your off topic outdated whataboutism spam.

Your stupidity is so humiliating to even look at.

Better than 99% of all criminal activity anywhere is never prosecuted. So, when singling out Trump for prosecution while not prosecuting the many bigger crimes of others, especially presidents and former presidents, the prosecutors, themselves, are acting criminally.

How in the world dense are you? I'm not really asking for an answer to this question. I realize that you can't begin to analyze your stupidity. My question was only rhetorical.


The Point Of No Return


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/point-no-return
The Roman historian Suetonius described Julius Caesar as timid and noncommittal as he initially approached the Rubicon River - a shallow and narrow waterway that, at the time, demarcated the boundary between Cisalpine Gaul and Italy proper - in January 49 B.C.E.

While we cannot know for certain whether New York County, New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg's catastrophic decision to successfully indict and arraign a former president of the United States was partially attributable to an intervening apparition, we can reasonably conclude that the actions of this past week have cast a most woeful die for the trajectory of our decadent, declining republic. The 34-count formal indictment of former President Donald Trump, laughably meritless on the legal merits and scandalously imprudent on the broader political judgment, represents a genie that cannot, and will not, ever be returned to its bottle.

Much ink has already been spilled on the glaring legal deficiencies in Bragg's case, which ought to be evident to any competent first-year law student and which had led Bragg's predecessor Cyrus Vance Jr., U.S. prosecutors and—in the not-so-distant past—Bragg himself to eschew prosecution. The underlying New York State crime that Trump allegedly violated and which is the exclusive crime invoked in the formal indictment, falsifying business records in the first degree, has a two-year statute of limitations under New York criminal law. The final alleged criminal bookkeeping action—a "hush money" payment to former porn star Stormy Daniels by former Trump "fixer," and more recent convicted felon, Michael Cohen—was on Dec. 5, 2017. The statute of limitations thus tolled over three years ago. That alone should suffice to dismiss the case.
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[paxmao]

.... this Trump arrest nonsense. .....

Why is it nonsense?

In OGNastys defense...illegally covering up payments you made to influence the outcome of an election that you're running for president in isn't really that big of a deal compared to stealing classified documents and then lying about having them to the FBI, or trying to overthrow the government to remain in power after the people decided not to give you a second term.

As usual though, when it comes to defending Trump you will mostly get whatever short and easy-to-remember phrases they've heard repeating over and over and over that don't really add up to a real defense since it's usually completely obvious that he's guilty of whatever it is he's being accused of.  

I find the problem is that many people treat politics the same as their favourite sports team.

ding ding ding

If you think that Trump paying a porn star who signed an NDA is the worst thing a President has done, I’d suggest you open your eyes. Clinton lied under oath about cigar banging an intern. Biden has nearly started world war three to keep the world from finding out his family has made millions of dollars making back room deals with foreign countries… I won’t even touch on the election fraud and only an ignorant liberal would say Trump tried to stay in power when everything he was saying on Jan 6th was for people to remain peaceful and respect law enforcement. At this point if you’re still a supporter of Liberal politics you’re either A) an idiot, B) completely brainwashed, 3) mentally ill, or 4) you hate America.

Nah, Clinton did not bang and intern but he certainly lied as sucking is a sexual relation in my book at least. In the US that is a big thing I guess, but matters little for practical purposes. About Biden, just an accusation with no proof. Just take it to court and see if it flies.

But hey... you have forgotten other examples such as Nixon. Is it because he was Republican?

And no, Trump has done many other things, but he is not there for paying a big-boobed bimbo (I reckon he is consistent in his tastes), he is there for falsifying the campaign accounts to hide it. Just like Capone, he may get judged for the most minor of all his offences - as opposed to getting judged for "high treason" for attempting to overthrown the US democratic system.

Seriously... what would have the Republicans done if Biden or Hilary or any other lost an election and called for an armed mob to assault the Capitol and threaten the lives of the republican members. They would be yelling  for decades. Why do we have to overlook Trump's shit over and over?

You "brainwashed" and other insults could be applied to yourself. They are irrelevant. If you do not like the Democrats, think about who made them what they are today.

Is this a witch hunt? Probably yes, but on this case the witch flies on a broom and casts dark magic all over (this means that they are hunting the guy, but he is also guilty as as sin).