Will Trump be indicted ?

[Hello_Bubble_World]

Now that Hillary is in the picture, let's please do a reality check:
 
Reality check
How many of the people still keeping this thread going are aware that prior to 2016 the Trump's and Clinton's were long-time friends? There is a famous picture of the smiling Clinton's standing with the Trump's at their wedding. Maybe they can help testify as a character witness at Donald's trial.   

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[BADecker]

Now that Hillary is in the picture, let's please do a reality check:
 
Reality check
How many of the people still keeping this thread going are aware that prior to 2016 the Trump's and Clinton's were long-time friends? There is a famous picture of the smiling Clinton's standing with the Trump's at their wedding. Maybe they can help testify as a character witness at Donald's trial.   

For trump it was a friendly competition. Friends arm wrestle at times, they compete in golf and chess.

If Trump and the Clintons are not friends any longer, it would be because Trump finally recognized the downright criminal activity the Clintons are involved in, and even promoting. It might be okay if it simply involved their own companies. But it involves using public media to subvert the people of the nation... and a whole lot more.

[o48o]

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Standard Dem talk. You talk like he is guilty when the court hasn't even convened. Of course, the court of public opinion is way far against you.

Talk like who is guilty? You mean inmate number P01135809?. Yeah that doesn't sound right . Nothing to see here.
It takes some military grade mental acrobatics to live in denial at this point. One would think that someone who is ranting about weird tunnel conspiracy theories would be happy that at least one of the Jeffrey Epstein's clients (inmate P01135809) is getting jail time.  Not that i believe a second that you would really believe what you are writing.

I would be very surprised if some of his co-conspirators would not witness against him to avoid life in jail.

Inmate P01135809 is actually something i am calling that unhiged cheeto from now on.

[TwitchySeal]

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Standard Dem talk. You talk like he is guilty when the court hasn't even convened.

Don't forget about

Trump Organization:
Tried and convicted of felony tax fraud in criminal court.

Trump University:
Scam disguised as a university, paid $25 million after being sued for fraud.

The Donald J Trump Foundation:
His "charity" that was basically used to launder money and evade taxes.  It was shut down and the Trump family is banned in NY State from operating or being on the board of any charity for:

   - Solicitation of donations without a license
   - Mishandling of funds raised for veterans' causes
   - Coordinating foundation grants with Trump's presidential campaign
   - Failure to make pledged 9/11 grants
   - Using Trump Foundation money to settle Trump Organization legal disputes
   - Making political donations with foundation funds
   - Purchasing goods and services for personal or business benefit with foundation money (mostly paintings of himself lol)
   - Diversion of taxable income to the foundation as donations
   - Trump taking personal credit for donations made using foundation money

Should I keep going? 

[Hispo]

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Standard Dem talk. You talk like he is guilty when the court hasn't even convened. Of course, the court of public opinion is way far against you.

Talk like who is guilty? You mean inmate number P01135809?. Yeah that doesn't sound right . Nothing to see here.
It takes some military grade mental acrobatics to live in denial at this point. One would think that someone who is ranting about weird tunnel conspiracy theories would be happy that at least one of the Jeffrey Epstein's clients (inmate P01135809) is getting jail time.  Not that i believe a second that you would really believe what you are writing.

I would be very surprised if some of his co-conspirators would not witness against him to avoid life in jail.

Inmate P01135809 is actually something i am calling that unhiged cheeto from now on.

One of the things Trump has against himself in the Georgia case is the amount of people who seem to be involved, the more co-conspirators there are in a crime, the more likely someone will flip and throw.the rest under the bus. If Trump was not running for the presidency and did not have much of a problem to admit wrongdoing, I am almost sure we would quickly throw all of them under the bus in exchange of a deal with State authorities, however that is not an option for him, so I assume he his crossing his fingers noone will take a deal before becoming president again. People break rather quick when under enough pressure, though, specially when being found guilty of such crimes would likely mean to spend the rest of ones natural life behind bars...

[TwitchySeal]

One of the things Trump has against himself in the Georgia case is the amount of people who seem to be involved, the more co-conspirators there are in a crime, the more likely someone will flip and throw.the rest under the bus.

Don't forget, there are 30 unindicted co-conspirators.  And there's a reason they are unindicted...  Also, many of the indicted co-conspirators likely already flipped in some ways, like Rudy for example.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/16/30-unindicted-co-conspirators-georgia-investigation-explainer

[Hispo]

One of the things Trump has against himself in the Georgia case is the amount of people who seem to be involved, the more co-conspirators there are in a crime, the more likely someone will flip and throw.the rest under the bus.

Don't forget, there are 30 unindicted co-conspirators.  And there's a reason they are unindicted...  Also, many of the indicted co-conspirators likely already flipped in some ways, like Rudy for example.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/16/30-unindicted-co-conspirators-georgia-investigation-explainer

When court documents make reference to unindicted co-conspirators the first thing which comes to mind is prosecutors not having enough evidence to convince a grand jury or to pursue charges in general. It had not crossed my mind that someone could have stepped forward without the others indicted being aware of it.

Though, now you mention it as a possibility it kind of makes sense there was someone smart enough to anticipate what it was going to happen.

By the way, I still don't have idea why it took around three years for those charges to be formally brought up on the table.

[BADecker]

^^^ The second thing that comes to mind is a grand jury that is made up of people who have the same mindset, and base their judgment on that mindset rather than clear evidence of harm to people or damage to property.

[paxmao]

^^^ The second thing that comes to mind is a grand jury that is made up of people who have the same mindset, and base their judgment on that mindset rather than clear evidence of harm to people or damage to property.

This portraits perfectly what is the modus operandi of Trump supporters. Nothing is about facts, nothing is about the law, about evidence, about proving assertions or matching reality with what is being said. It is all about "a mindset". Even when a great jury is called, if the result is not to their liking is just because they are wrong - no need to prove anything.

Hard facts are just something that can be ignored, it does not matter that Trump has never climbed let's say, Mount Everest, with the right "mindset", all Trump supporters will swear that he has and anyone doubting is because "partisanship".

[BADecker]

^^^ The second thing that comes to mind is a grand jury that is made up of people who have the same mindset, and base their judgment on that mindset rather than clear evidence of harm to people or damage to property.

This portraits perfectly what is the modus operandi of Trump supporters. Nothing is about facts, nothing is about the law, about evidence, about proving assertions or matching reality with what is being said. It is all about "a mindset". Even when a great jury is called, if the result is not to their liking is just because they are wrong - no need to prove anything.

Hard facts are just something that can be ignored, it does not matter that Trump has never climbed let's say, Mount Everest, with the right "mindset", all Trump supporters will swear that he has and anyone doubting is because "partisanship".

Trump supporters have the facts. Herre they are, again, for you to read... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269905.msg55119252#msg55119252. Even if you don't like a few of these facts, there are many you will like. And none of them are illegal.

In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

[TwitchySeal]

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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.

[paxmao]

^^^ The second thing that comes to mind is a grand jury that is made up of people who have the same mindset, and base their judgment on that mindset rather than clear evidence of harm to people or damage to property.

This portraits perfectly what is the modus operandi of Trump supporters. Nothing is about facts, nothing is about the law, about evidence, about proving assertions or matching reality with what is being said. It is all about "a mindset". Even when a great jury is called, if the result is not to their liking is just because they are wrong - no need to prove anything.

Hard facts are just something that can be ignored, it does not matter that Trump has never climbed let's say, Mount Everest, with the right "mindset", all Trump supporters will swear that he has and anyone doubting is because "partisanship".

Trump supporters have the facts. Herre they are, again, for you to read... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269905.msg55119252#msg55119252. Even if you don't like a few of these facts, there are many you will like. And none of them are illegal.

In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

I do not see anything in that post that would prove that he is not a criminal. If you want to talk politics, do so in a thread about politics, this thread is about a suspected criminal activity. Example: I save three people from dying in a fire (not that Trump has done any of it) and next day I steal car and drive drunk. I can be prosecuted for car theft and dui.

More clear? I can be a great film producer and director or a very popular singer, but if I sleep with children I can and should go to jail.

If you want to talk politics, I suggest you do so by topic so that it can actually be discussed, not by listing unconnected things. Some of the statements are not accomplishments but statistics of an economic lifecycle, some others are the results of Obama's policies and work, some others like "legalising hemp" are of dubious value anyway, but as said, listing does not allow a honest discussion, which of course is what you seek.

[BADecker]

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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.

Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


REPORT: Smoking Gun 'Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption' Will Be Released in Coming Week


https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/08/29/report-smoking-gun-evidence-of-joe-bidens-corruption-will-be-released-in-coming-weeks-n1722959
According to Kelly, the contents of the recording are so incriminating that they could potentially lead President Biden to withdraw from the 2024 race.

"There is an audio tape — I am told by people in the know, not necessarily in government, not necessarily out of government — I can't say too much. But there is incontrovertible evidence of Joe Biden's corruption that is about to be made public," Kelly claimed.

Don't get too excited yet. There's a catch.

"It's not going to happen tomorrow, it's not going to happen before Labor Day, but it will happen sometime between Labor Day and Halloween," he said. "This tape will be made public — I'm not sure by what entity at this point — but once it is heard, Joe Biden will have… well… he'll have only two options. Number one: he will not be able to remain a candidate for the presidency for reelection. It will be over and done with; the only thing that he might be able to do potentially, but probably not, is remain as president."

Kelly claims his sources tell him that this tape is so incriminating that "they're worried about it right now at the White House."

"They know about it," Kelly insists. "They know what's out there. There may be more than one and it makes a lot of sense."
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[paxmao]

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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.

Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?

[BADecker]

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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.

Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?

The only way you can know this is if you were right there with Trump when he was doing what he was doing. In other words, you are spreading hearsay and rumors. There has been no verdict in court.

Sure there are a bunch of people who are like you... trying to pick on what looks like bad things that Trump might have done. But there are millions in the polls who would vote for Trump because they can see the good things he does.

What is MAGA? MAGA IS Make America Great Again. MAGA is one of the things Trump did half of this in his first term. Biden not only tore down the MAGA Trump did, but he made it far, far worse.

You are in another country, right? You are not an American, right? No wonder you are talking like you do. You just happen to be an enemy of the US... as are some of the other people in this forum who are against Trump.

[paxmao]

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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.

Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?

The only way you can know this is if you were right there with Trump when he was doing what he was doing. In other words, you are spreading hearsay and rumors. There has been no verdict in court.

Sure there are a bunch of people who are like you... trying to pick on what looks like bad things that Trump might have done. But there are millions in the polls who would vote for Trump because they can see the good things he does.

What is MAGA? MAGA IS Make America Great Again. MAGA is one of the things Trump did half of this in his first term. Biden not only tore down the MAGA Trump did, but he made it far, far worse.

You are in another country, right? You are not an American, right? No wonder you are talking like you do. You just happen to be an enemy of the US... as are some of the other people in this forum who are against Trump.

Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said

Biden's are way worse.

, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.

2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.

3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.

4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.

On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

[BADecker]

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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said

Biden's are way worse.

, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.

Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.

2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.

It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?

3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.

Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.

4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.

No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.

On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

[paxmao]

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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said

Biden's are way worse.

, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.

Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.

2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.

It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?

3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.

Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.

4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.

No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.

On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

The fact that you consider that your opinion is the only valid "American" (meaning US, which is not America) does not make it so. The fact that you try to hide Trump's very likely criminal acts behind a very poorly constructed attack on me or who I am, or what I represent means that you are not better than a Taliban. You lack culture, reasoning and are the perfect example of why the US is in danger.

You do not even understand the concepts behind the US constitution and what it really means the US democracy - created by illustrious men whose main achievement was precisely to consider different viewpoints, creating guarantees of freedom for all and a system that can be protected from self-proclaimed leaders that think the they simply can be above the law of the country.

Because that is all the problem here - Trump and his court of singers thinking that he can be above the law. The time to prove it wrong has arrived no matter how much you insult and spread shit to cover up.

[BADecker]

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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said

Biden's are way worse.

, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.

Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.

2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.

It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?

3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.

Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.

4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.

No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.

On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

The fact that you consider that your opinion is the only valid "American" (meaning US, which is not America) does not make it so. The fact that you try to hide Trump's very likely criminal acts behind a very poorly constructed attack on me or who I am, or what I represent means that you are not better than a Taliban. You lack culture, reasoning and are the perfect example of why the US is in danger.

You do not even understand the concepts behind the US constitution and what it really means the US democracy - created by illustrious men whose main achievement was precisely to consider different viewpoints, creating guarantees of freedom for all and a system that can be protected from self-proclaimed leaders that think the they simply can be above the law of the country.

Because that is all the problem here - Trump and his court of singers thinking that he can be above the law. The time to prove it wrong has arrived no matter how much you insult and spread shit to cover up.

I really don't like being a copycat, but a lot of what I am doing is just copying you... in the opposite direction, of course.

Part of the difference is that I have a lot of website evidence, and other. If you could find some for your opinions, you might have some evidence.

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The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.

That's for the court to determine.  I get the sense that the prosecution knows what they're doing.  I'd also take it as a given that they know more about the law than you do.  It's unlikely they'd waste their time building these cases if they thought it would fall at the first hurdle.  You're merely clutching at straws because you aren't prepared to accept the consequences of your Bigot-Messiah's actions.