Why do gambling websites start investigating accounts only after big wins?

[XCANA]

Sincerely, most of these investigated gambling accounts are those the gambling platforms find getting through the possibility of utilizing the bug found. Those who found bug early within any gambling platforms do take advantage of this opportunity to cheat the gambling platform, so, whenever there is any big win, the platform tend to investigate the win before approve withdrawal for the winner, but in the same note different from those who loss due to their unfairness.

[dunfida]

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The answer to this question is to "Stick to those legit gambling sites" and you would definitely avoid this kind of problem but only into those normal circumstances but
those legit sites can anytime ask you out if they do see red flags towards your gambling activity so you do always anticipate that thing as a player but if you do make up
some lucky hits purely or in a fair way then theres nothing you should be worried about.Lots of legit gambling sites will pay you off without any issues
or talks or something like that, only shady or new ones will definitely be having this kind of behavior.

[DoublerHunter]

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The answer to this question is to "Stick to those legit gambling sites"

^ That is a perfect answer for this. Stick to the legit gambling site or those gambling sites that operate with a license. There could be another reason for investigating users win a big amount, probably for a good purpose and I think, that is not a big deal because all gambling sites were probably doing this but a fair investigation. For the reason that almost the same scenario when a casino has a technical system failure and the user will probably take advantage of it, and being a business owner you can verify your user activity. Nevertheless, when it comes to a big loss, it is us as a user who also has a right to verify our bets.

[2double0]

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The answer to this question is to "Stick to those legit gambling sites"

The problem is not sticking to legit gambling websites, but which 'legit gambling sites' do they think are legit and which sites are really legit. Gamblers who play on a website, if freezes or locks their account due to suspicious activity some day, turns out to be a scam for them? With such mentality, almost all gambling sites are scam because websites that stick to their rules can ask you to do KYC even if you only have $22 in your account there but such websites have a reputation and are legit to me. Yes, I talked about the issue of that newbie who started screaming 'Stake Scam' after getting locked out of his account due to suspicious activities.

[fullhdpixel]

Sincerely, most of these investigated gambling accounts are those the gambling platforms find getting through the possibility of utilizing the bug found. Those who found bug early within any gambling platforms do take advantage of this opportunity to cheat the gambling platform, so, whenever there is any big win, the platform tend to investigate the win before approve withdrawal for the winner, but in the same note different from those who loss due to their unfairness.

Anyone exploiting bug should be punished no doubt but problem starts when the site asks you baseless questions when you are not cheating. I remember there used to be a site named as luckybet or something and what they did was quite strange as a player they thought was taking advantage of their system and to counter that they cheated him. Now I understand you should stop and ban any player cheating the system in any ways but what kind of brain is it to cheat him back? That's utter nonsense!

# If a player has cheated against them and they have proof for the same like multi-accounting and arbitraging as seen in most cases.

# If the gambling website does not have enough bankroll to pay for that big win to the customer and their intention is also not to pay anything to him/her, they will just block his/her account. Some websites compromise with the customer and pay their deposits, some offer extra over it out of their wins and some do not give anything and are declared bankrupt.

In case they don't have the money they should ask the player to wait and next time make the max win smaller in such a way that they are able to pay the player in case he wins it.

[blockman]

If the gambler is losing, there's no need to investigate because it's favorable to them. And when someone wins huge amounts, it's necessary to take time and investigate and this also happens even in the physical casinos. To see if there's something wrong on their end or if the player has done some suspicious activities just to get the win. If they happen to detect some connection to accounts and it's against to their tos, the player has violated their rules and conditions if they prove it right.

[just_Alice]

Many online gambling websites create conflicts with their customers when that player wins a big bet. The owner of the gambling website then starts investigating the player's account to see if there is any evidence so that the player's account can be blocked without payment! And they block many accounts without paying the winning money to the players. And the most used reason to block the account is the connected account. For a player this creates frustrating situations.

The biggest question here is, if the gambling website starts investigating that player's account after a big win, then why doesn't the gambling website start the investigation when that player starts losing money? I think a solution to the problem should be found. Because those who are experienced can get their money back by posting on Bitcointalk and various places but there are many inexperienced people who can't tell their problem in the right place so they don't get their money back anymore. So this seems to me to be a big problem for gamblers.

Basically, they do whatever will make them more profit. If you lose money - it's good for the casino, so why should they bother? If you win - they start searching for whatever reasons not to pay you off. Have you ever been to real-life casinos? If you start winning - the security starts to gather around and murmur something while looking at you, really.
Sometimes they'll bring you free alcohol to get you drunk so that you'll finally leave, or better (for them) - lose all your wins back to the casino.

So it's nothing personal and not even a scam, just business. If the casino has certain rules and you violate them - they have all the rights to ban you. The solution is simple here - don't violate the rules and you'll get your wins.

[chaser15]

But I think online gambling websites should take some extra steps to detect cheaters, not just target players.

I think they do that's why there are investigations.

Mostly, the requirements are KYC. If the gambler is sure that no fraud-related in their winning, they can easily comply with that.

It's common that when someone attempts to withdraw a big amount, expect that you can get their attention. That's why the suggested withdrawal should be in batches and not a single big one.

[2double0]

# If a player has cheated against them and they have proof for the same like multi-accounting and arbitraging as seen in most cases.

# If the gambling website does not have enough bankroll to pay for that big win to the customer and their intention is also not to pay anything to him/her, they will just block his/her account. Some websites compromise with the customer and pay their deposits, some offer extra over it out of their wins and some do not give anything and are declared bankrupt.

In case they don't have the money they should ask the player to wait and next time make the max win smaller in such a way that they are able to pay the player in case he wins it.

I do not think that any gambler who wins big will lend time to a gambling website to manage funds and pay him because gamblers are more clever than before and they know their good and bad, while the gambling website may run away or declare themselves bankrupt as I said before, then what will the gambler do and where will he go? I think there must be some insurance for these gambling websites which may help them to pay such big wins to customers at the time of bankruptcy.

[Jackl87]

Gambling website are operating to make a profit just like any other company, so it's not a big surprise that they check someones profile after he had a huge successful bet or when he requests a big payout.
Especially if it's a newly registered user and it's his first bet or something. If they investigate an account for no good reason or trying to refuse to pay out money that was won with a legitimately placed bet than that's definitely not ok and illegal.

[goinmerry]

Many online gambling websites create conflicts with their customers when that player wins a big bet. The owner of the gambling website then starts investigating the player's account to see if there is any evidence so that the player's account can be blocked without payment! And they block many accounts without paying the winning money to the players. And the most used reason to block the account is the connected account. For a player this creates frustrating situations.

Encountered that kind of experience here before shared by others. Others I think are solved and in some cases, the user itself really violated the term, iirc. That's why if there's a case like this, gamblers should not hesitate to post it on the Scam Accusation of the forum for us to see the details.

This is really frustrating as we should not get involved in these investigations once we won big. But as long as I'm playing fair, nothing to worry about. Now to lessen the risks, I will only choose to play at popular sites. I think such problems mostly occur on a not famous site.

[Lorence.xD]

Gambling website are operating to make a profit just like any other company, so it's not a big surprise that they check someones profile after he had a huge successful bet or when he requests a big payout.
Especially if it's a newly registered user and it's his first bet or something. If they investigate an account for no good reason or trying to refuse to pay out money that was won with a legitimately placed bet than that's definitely not ok and illegal.

It is not surprise because they are greedy websites, they do not want the players to really win. Imagine if they let go of someone who made a fortune in their website, the money that the guy is winning is going to be loss for the website so they do everything to make the win suspicious. I disagree about the age of the account, it doesn't really matter whether it is a new one or an old one because this website are doing whatever it takes to not let go of the money. And if the player is suspected of cheating, then those players will do it the subtle way, like winning smaller amounts overtime instead of winning big in just one spin.

[peter0425]

Obviously they don't wanna Hinder us from depositing as much as we can and this will profit them a lot . because if they will investigate the very moment we created the account and will banned us from violating their TOS then surely income wont come their way.

actually for me ? this is obvious scamming and none are safe from this , because sometimes TOS are not intended to be violated but by nature it happens and gambling sites are taking advantage of their chance to prevent us from claiming wins because of those violations.

[Wexnident]

The question here is WHY would casinos investigate if others lose money? It's like asking them to investigate why their business profits. Same issue if the user wins big. It's called "big" for a reason, and anything that exceeds a certain level would certainly gain the notice of those that track whatever is happening. In the end, casinos are a business, so once something odd or weird happens, they need to investigate. Players losing money? That's a natural. Players winning? Sure that's fine, but players winning it big all of a sudden? Fair or not they gotta see and prove it with their own eyes that it was all fair play.

[imstillthebest]

its because its a big win and why will they investigate a small win when it was not damaging to their bank but if a casino is conscious or paranoid they will monitor every gambler that are playing on their casino . terms of use is created for the gamblers to know if what are dos and donts .

a few casino allow multiple accounts and if your a gambler that uses multi accounts you need to check every  casinos terms if you are in a right place . they use multi accounts not for scamming or any frauds but they think they are lucky with switching accounts .

[traderethereum]

The biggest question here is, if the gambling website starts investigating that player's account after a big win, then why doesn't the gambling website start the investigation when that player starts losing money

Because if the gambler is losing money in the start, that will be income to the site, so they do not need to investigate the gambler.
If you can win some money, it will not be a problem for them.
But if you win big money, they can investigate your account to know if you are not cheating.
If you pass on their checking, you can withdraw your money without a problem.
No one will let other people get their big money easily, and they will check it and investigate it before people withdraw the money.

[janggernaut]

Many online gambling websites create conflicts with their customers when that player wins a big bet. The owner of the gambling website then starts investigating the player's account to see if there is any evidence so that the player's account can be blocked without payment! And they block many accounts without paying the winning money to the players. And the most used reason to block the account is the connected account. For a player this creates frustrating situations.

The biggest question here is, if the gambling website starts investigating that player's account after a big win, then why doesn't the gambling website start the investigation when that player starts losing money? I think a solution to the problem should be found. Because those who are experienced can get their money back by posting on Bitcointalk and various places but there are many inexperienced people who can't tell their problem in the right place so they don't get their money back anymore. So this seems to me to be a big problem for gamblers.

Not all big winnings got investigated by site. Mostly, when i read on scam accusation, there are lot people said their account got locked when they trying to withdraw because they deposit a little amount but win huge amount.

A site obviously don't ever check your account when you lose, since they got your money, so it doesn't make they lose anything. Once you complain on their site, they will give you their ToS and even gambling policy (gamble what you can afford to lose)

[vintages]

It's simply because some of this gambling sites actually don't want to pay the money. Especially if the money is a huge one.
But sometimes, you don't blame this sites because some players may have used cheating methods. I suppose that account which goes under investigation are those with a tiny few loses but numerous winnings.

[arwin100]

Many online gambling websites create conflicts with their customers when that player wins a big bet. The owner of the gambling website then starts investigating the player's account to see if there is any evidence so that the player's account can be blocked without payment! And they block many accounts without paying the winning money to the players. And the most used reason to block the account is the connected account. For a player this creates frustrating situations.

The biggest question here is, if the gambling website starts investigating that player's account after a big win, then why doesn't the gambling website start the investigation when that player starts losing money? I think a solution to the problem should be found. Because those who are experienced can get their money back by posting on Bitcointalk and various places but there are many inexperienced people who can't tell their problem in the right place so they don't get their money back anymore. So this seems to me to be a big problem for gamblers.

Because they want to know if there's no certain abuse made and want to validate the winner if those wins are clean, that's why expect that and the lucky gambler doesn't need to worry for that since he will get his winning after all verification process has been done.

The only thing they should assure is they only play on legit big casinos so that they will have a high chance to get the winning amount compare to small casino where they can possibly turn the winning gambler down.

[rodskee]

Many online gambling websites create conflicts with their customers when that player wins a big bet. The owner of the gambling website then starts investigating the player's account to see if there is any evidence so that the player's account can be blocked without payment! And they block many accounts without paying the winning money to the players. And the most used reason to block the account is the connected account. For a player this creates frustrating situations.

The biggest question here is, if the gambling website starts investigating that player's account after a big win, then why doesn't the gambling website start the investigation when that player starts losing money? I think a solution to the problem should be found. Because those who are experienced can get their money back by posting on Bitcointalk and various places but there are many inexperienced people who can't tell their problem in the right place so they don't get their money back anymore. So this seems to me to be a big problem for gamblers.

Because they want to know if there's no certain abuse made and want to validate the winner if those wins are clean, that's why expect that and the lucky gambler doesn't need to worry for that since he will get his winning after all verification process has been done.

Please don't extend depending those sites in which the truth is they are intentionally doing this because of their own interests.
They can at least check each account or they can put a early warning if the account created or depositing is questionable but why would they do that? when the deposit is what they really want from us gamblers?

The only thing they should assure is they only play on legit big casinos so that they will have a high chance to get the winning amount compare to small casino where they can possibly turn the winning gambler down.

That is the total wreck issue in this forum in regards to gambling sites , because this was the option that scammers taking advantage from the players, accusing us violating their TOS while the truth is they have just only Putting Sh!t in our names.