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Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino. Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino: - Fully sponsor money
This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money - Bonus deposit sponsor
This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger
Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money. What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money. And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer. I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.
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Depends on who get the sponsorship money, I'd say. There are still integrity-driven people out there that will play for a sponsor but will still point out the bad things on the platform that they received sponsorship money from. The point of a sponsorship deal is to advertise or expose a platform to that individual's audiences for them to try and play. There's no harm in doing it IMO. It's a clean adervtisement strategy that anyone can use to promote their site to the open public.
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February 17, 2021, 07:33:47 PM |
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What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.
I doesnt really matter for me because they wont really be telling in the first place that those are purely sponsored money and not theirs which it isnt actually surprising in todays situation. Thing here is that you do get entertained on watching that stream and of course playing on the advertised gambling site will be always depending on your own choice not theirs. And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.
Possible but due to lots of big players or gamblers into this market then you can hardly tell if those funds we're just show offs or their real money came from their pockets.
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February 17, 2021, 07:46:04 PM |
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streamer, athlete or others is a kind of job so they need sponsors to earn money.
as long as the casino is not flawed (never deceives customers and has a good reputation) so for me, there is no problem with the gambling site as sponsoring. remember the keyword "do not accept sponsor money from fraudsters"
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February 17, 2021, 08:07:27 PM |
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Popular people easily make good money out of the sponsor, because popular faces are used as a source to promote the service. In recent days Stake has sponsored Israel Adesanya to be the brand ambassador for Stake. I've an YouTuber friend, he used to get mostly travel offer on vacation. This is completely a common practice.
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February 17, 2021, 08:21:42 PM |
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You would accept those offers rather than on earning nothing because as a streamer specially popular ones will really be having that edge and that would be primarily the target of those companies because they do know that their influential and using up that thing will really bring out some advantage when it comes to exposure and as a streamer then you are aiming to make money not only into your streams but also in sponsorship and other means or sources.So its not really something new and it wont be an issue if we do talk if its on the ethical side or not.
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February 17, 2021, 08:28:13 PM |
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Take in consideration the streamer will be making profit for that propaganda anyway, after all he is being sponsored. He can play with his own money, lose everything during the match, but his profit is guaranteed in the end due to the sponsor.
For me it doesn't make difference if the streamer is playing with his own money or with money given by the casino since the provably fair system is working, what means that is a legit gameplay with legit results. And of course, since the streamer doesn't promise *safe strategies* to gamble, what would mean misleading advertising.
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February 17, 2021, 08:33:22 PM |
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Depends on who get the sponsorship money,
Someone who got the offer will be always someone who has some exposure from their follower and mostly will be always Youtuber or Casino streamer. In recent days Stake has sponsored Israel Adesanya to be the brand ambassador for Stake.
Both goals were the same, but type sponsor what I talk kinda different with the ambassador. I doesnt really matter for me because they wont really be telling in the first place that those are purely sponsored money and not theirs which it isnt actually surprising in todays situation.
There has some honest YouTuber or streamer who always where the money came from, one of example WatchGamesTV, Juicy, Drew you can see on his video they always told where the money came from. I'm just respecting their action to telling the truth, now you can see WatchGamesTV he have a new video a few hours ago and guess what he was admited the money came from sponsor Roobet + he deposits more a little bit. For me it doesn't make difference if the streamer is playing with his own money or with money given by the casino since the provably fair system is working, what means that is a legit gameplay with legit results. And of course, since the streamer doesn't promise *safe strategies* to gamble, what would mean misleading advertising.
Well don't worry they always put the warning on the begining video or in the description.
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February 17, 2021, 08:45:15 PM |
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a youtube must be lucky to have such sponsor. it's becoming usual on the internet that a casino sponsoring someone. we can even see logo of casino on the athlete's shirt. these are all marketing for them, it makes the business going when there are people continue using the services. marketing helps them go on. we all know what will happen if the casino here in bitcointalk stops advertising, they gradually die.
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February 17, 2021, 09:13:49 PM |
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-snip Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money. -snip-
What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews. I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino.
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February 17, 2021, 09:18:36 PM |
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-snip Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money. -snip-
What exactly do you think is wrong over here? I don't see anything wrong when a casino sponsors someone to advertise for them or review their casino. Its more like they are getting paid for promoting their casino and letting everyone know about it. Sure, the reviewer might be biased due to this, but then, if someone believes everything a random guy on the internet says, then he is an idiot. On other hand, I doubt any "streamer" would risk their reputation by giving biased or fake reviews. I would say sponsoring isn't wrong in this case. The "streamer" earns, the casino gets promoted and others get to know about the casino. Its a win-win situation in both sides and this is just simply part of marketing which i dont really see anything wrong in here.Biased or not but still people will able to find out if it do looks obvious and you are right that they are paid to promote the site so its understandable that they will be giving out positive sentiments most of the time. You do have your own choice if you do follow that streamer or not.
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February 17, 2021, 09:27:03 PM |
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You would accept those offers rather than on earning nothing because as a streamer specially popular ones will really be having that edge and that would be primarily the target of those companies because they do know that their influential and using up that thing will really bring out some advantage when it comes to exposure and as a streamer then you are aiming to make money not only into your streams but also in sponsorship and other means or sources.So its not really something new and it wont be an issue if we do talk if its on the ethical side or not.
I don't have qualms also about this. As long as the casino he is promoting is legit and not screwing gamblers, I am okay with it. But if he knows that the site has so many scam allegations and unresolved issues and still promoting it. Then, I will doubt the integrity of that promoter. Clearly, he is only for the money and doesn't care about other people being screwed on the site.
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February 17, 2021, 10:03:42 PM |
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That's the same as advertisement, it's easier for them to get exposure if they'll go with full sponsor money to a known streamer, athlete, or any team that they'll get a wide reach. As for the streamers, it's a norm to mention that they're being sponsored to avoid misleading their viewers and so their audiences know that they're being sponsored. That's part of the deal if they are given money to be used into the casino or some deposit bonuses. I always get to see those exposures in streamers that I watch.
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February 17, 2021, 10:12:35 PM |
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i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only . i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .
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February 17, 2021, 10:20:11 PM Last edit: February 18, 2021, 12:25:09 AM by nelson4lov |
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Like you said: ~Snipped IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money. (...)
I don't really have a problem with a streamer getting sponsored to try out a casino platform and maybe offer some kind of review for his subs/followers. I won't have any problem with that as far as the streamer is upfront with his subscribers about the fact that he isn't using his own funds but that which the casino gave to him. Sponsored videos/posts are one of the most effective methods of advertising and its done virtually in most industries. For instance, phone manufacturers usually gifts a phone to a tech influencer to make a review. My point? What matters is that the streamer should be honest about the casino and not just mislead his followers just because he's sponsored.
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February 17, 2021, 10:20:21 PM |
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I vaguely remember that years ago, some streamers in the e-sports platform were paid by various gambling websites using the funds given to them. There was an incident that such promotion made by this gambling website and the streamer were orchestrated in a way to make it look legit, but in fact rigged in the very beginning. This caused a stir in the community in which Valve had to step-up to mitigate the damage. i dont know about cs go maybe they have sponshorships that came from a casino but i mostly foccus playing on a crypto casino and as much as i know most of the streamers are not affliated by a gambling site but it was thier own money they are using to play but there are gambling that conduct a youtube campaign but it was a for a short term purpose only . i dont have a problem if the streamer tells honestly that it wasnt his money and sponsored money overall isnt bad in my opinion .
This is the one that I was talking about. Sponsorship money given by the gambling website can be a double-edged sword since streamers are given large amounts of money, so it makes it very appealing and convincing to the viewers about the chances of winning.
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Well, perhaps it's quite good if the streamer will tell that the money they used in gambling as an advertisement has come from the sponsorship of the gambling sites, -- but the fact, they don't. This is the same as the streamer play an online game, they receive payment from the online game they had played. For me, this is not a big deal because we know even they will not tell that they got a commission from the gambling site once they advertise that gambling site it is expected they accept money to gamble.
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I'm ok with it as long as the streamer is an honest reviewer who will point out the flaws, advantages, and disadvantages of playing in his sponsor casino, his loyalty should be on his audience because so much at stake on his reputation and he should stipulate that on his sponsor that he should be independent and transparent on his reviews, the gambling audience is now wiser they know what is an independent and a paid reviews, so he should tell his audience.
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February 17, 2021, 11:35:04 PM |
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I watch many streamers and I can say that they have different points of view on this. Some streamers fundamentally do not advertise casinos and various risky investment schemes. Some streamers easily advertise both. In my opinion, a casino in this sense resembles alcohol - if a person is adult and adept, then he himself decides to use it or not. And if we advertise alcohol / casinos, then we should not relieve the responsibility for making decisions from this person - this is his choice. So i'm ok with such money.
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It's good for the business side but not for a player side. If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea. Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers. We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk. Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.
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