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February 18, 2021, 10:06:21 PM
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Every single business, service, will always have some marketing strategy to promote their service. In casinos, one of the marketing is to paid someone like Streamer or Youtuber to play on his casino. One of the examples offers from casinos they give for the promotion giving some sponsor money to play for every Youtuber or Streamer. If you watching a gambling video mostly on CRYPTO & CS-GO casino, it's not quite familiar anymore when they got sponsor money from the casino.

Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.

I don't have a problem with it even though there has been a lot of debate as to whether or not playing with sponsored money is considered misleading advertising.

I watch people like Drew, juicy, etc. for entertainment mostly anyway. Besides, they seem to be putting in their own money some of the time/majority of the time.

It is very easy to tell when someone is fake reacting - if they are playing with ludicrous amounts of funds that they can never withdraw. That is the only form of sponsorship that I have a personal issue with. As long as the streamer/advertiser has some vested interest in his/her own winnings, and he's not pumping out fake reactions, I am more than happy to be entertained.
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February 18, 2021, 10:20:13 PM
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It's good for the business side but not for a player side.
If you are watching too much of this videos then you might get the wrong idea.
Those Youtuber's just like you said are playing for free. That means, they don't really care much of how much they will lose unlike us gamblers.
We are trying to protect our money making sure every bet we take has lower risk.
Think of it as a paid advertisement only and never mimic whatever strategy they will do.

But if they show fair play and fair results, then this cannot harm anyone. If they use risky strategies, they will lose very quickly and this will rather serve as a bad example than somehow lure new players into gambling. And yet, such advertising is intended for adults, they themselves are able to make decisions and must be responsible for it.
I dont see anything wrong for those streamers to choose on which one they would advertise and they wont just easily accept if they would be advertising some shady casinos
where they can able to discovered for themselves yet that would really be ruining their own reputation.So they are still careful into that part.

Researching on things that should really be accepted is a good behavior to have as a streamer, not just on accepting without doing any research or verification on things you're dealing with.

If they do play on the fair way neither using some strategy or not then its just fine as long there would be no deceiving activities would get involved then i dont see any problems with that.

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February 18, 2021, 10:48:14 PM
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In my opinion, the good thing is related to sponsor money from casino, because it can increase Youtuber's income. And the casino is profitable too
with promotions on the YouTube platform. This is mutually beneficial for both parties. Most importantly, youtubers must have the integrity that they
don't promote casinos that are cheating and scams. Because the current YouTube audience is very large and continues to increase, so if promoting
bad casinos. There will be many victims who will be harmed. So go ahead and fully sponsor or bonus deposit sponsor, both in my opinion are as good.

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February 19, 2021, 01:35:29 AM
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~snip~
If the casino doesn't violate any regulations and their business is registered legally then it's good to promote them. Promotions or sponsorships are always paid in cash, it is one of the ways they earn on their career. The amounts we see when the streamer promotes them are given by the company so he can promote them well that will attract some people.
The promotions will be good for both of them to help the streamer ratings increase, and the casino can get more members from the streamer's viewers. Sometimes besides that amount, the casino can give more bonuses if the streamer can successfully promote their website, and that can be long-term sponsorships.

~snip~

If the sole purpose is also to bring the money out for the audiences.

It's seems no to be that bad, the more money to recieve the more the streamers can share, it's a personal opinion and decision making
as there are people who see gambling as bad business and recieving money from the casino owners are also bad in their reputation but other see the otherway as they can deal with it  with correct decision making.
Yes, it is why I said that would depend on each person. Perhaps, one streamer will not be a problem to promote the casino, but for the other streamer, they don't want to promote that casino because that will relate to each streamer's feeling. After all, it could be another money if the streamer can accept the sponsorships.

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February 19, 2021, 02:18:17 AM
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There's nothing wrong of sponsorship, as long as the intensions is good for the benefit of the casino as well as their business being promoted at a certain purpose. Every situation needs to first evaluated by the gambling adminstrative, and I'm pretty before they'll accept any offers, there's a serious discussion over that matter. Involvement of money is really a hot issue, casino wouldn't deal with type of sponsorship that would cause hard on their particular operations.
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February 19, 2021, 02:55:32 AM
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If Im a youtuber if ever I will promote their casino once I see it's legit but it's not free because youtuber and streamer are paying to promote or advertise and that is happening right now. I hope those streamer will not only accept that to get money but also they need to search and try it before they going to accept it and going to promote because accepting they name will be front to this and once you promote a casino who is not legit and not good to play your career will be destroy for sure so do research for the streamer who are planning to promote a casino.
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February 19, 2021, 02:57:22 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  Grin It's a job.

This is the new way of commercial now.
Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.
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February 19, 2021, 03:06:57 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  Grin It's a job.

This is the new way of commercial now.
Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.

Same here. Nothing wrong with this.

Casinos need to market their business. There are so many ways in doing it. It so happens that there are also Youtubers and streamers who are doing their thing in relation to gambling and so they are tailored fit to each other. Casinos are to be promoted. Youtubers and streamers are to be paid. It is a win-win situation for both of them.

For us, gamblers, we shouldn't just rely on what we read, heard, and watched online especially coming from ads and paid streamers and youtubers. Research is a responsibility on our end.
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February 19, 2021, 03:36:00 AM
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It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
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February 19, 2021, 03:39:02 AM
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To be honest, nothing changes for me if the streamer is playing with sponsor money or their own money. Gambling is for fun, so at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if you win or lose or if you can withdraw your money or you can't, there are many streamers who indeed are sponsored by casinos with huge amount and they might have this condition that they can't withdraw or they can withdraw a limited amount, so I would like to advise others that not to take streamers as an inspiration for gambling because since they are not winning/losing anything, they can bet big and go with high risk which we can't afford (unless the gambler is very rich) and he certainly just watching the stream as an entertainment is what is best Smiley !
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February 19, 2021, 04:14:56 AM
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Nothing wrong with it imo, Gambling isn't an illegal activity or anything, it's just mostly frowned upon due to the fact that it uses up money easily (and tbh, most actions do, which I can't fathom why gambling has such a  biased judgment from the eyes of others). I'd reckon that sponsoring someone to kill someone, now that would be bad, but Gambling? Should be fine. It's in the end a way for casinos to spread their name by using the fanbase of a certain person after all, and as long as agreements were made legally, there shouldn't really be an issue.

It's just like commercials, and we don't exactly see anything wrong with it now do we?

 
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February 19, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
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I think it will be bad for the viewers and not the sponsored personalities. What if that personality is a popular celebrity and a lot of teenagers, young people that look up to him and follow him on social media or maybe on youtube. As these teenagers might engage in gambling at a young age that can destroy their lives. These people should be responsible for what they are doing since they have that influence that can drive their supporters.
I slightly agree with you but on the other hand gambling isn't that limited given that a lot of games offer the same mechanics or at least a similarity to what actual gambling games looks like. Most of the people should be aware at this point on what gambling is and know the downsides that it could possible give to you.

All I can think of this are those games with the mechanics of loot boxes in their shops. There are a lot of games like that now and most of them are some of the most popular games in this world like Dota 2, CSGO, and Fortnite. There are a lot of Youtube personalities who open this problem and I don't know if there is an effect of it on players especially those underage players.

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February 19, 2021, 02:18:06 PM
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It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
As long as there is no law broken with it when some streamer promotes a certain casino just by playing with their sponsored money. It depends on the streamer actually how they will going to advertise/promotes a casino using their talent as long as they were good at it. It would be shame to see such streamers that doesn't know what he/she was doing.

I don't even know a single streamers who promotes a casino even if this is just a sponsored money. Both will gain a benefit for promotion plus people will get to know a certain casino that's being promoted. Everyone can do their own way of how they would make their marketing strategy but streamer are on the mainstream already so it's the best to promote for now.

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February 19, 2021, 02:24:43 PM
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Money is good as long as your are promoting a legit casino so you are not risking your future for few thousands dollars. There is nothing wrong with influencers getting such sponsor for promotion and that is why they become influencer or just take advantage of being one of them.

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February 19, 2021, 02:57:31 PM
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It will actually both beneficial for both sides. It's a part of business and promoters and streamers really deserve to be paid or sponsored because they're promoting or advertising a certain site. As for me, it's also important that they'll receive sponsor money so they will be able to test the site as well. It's a marketing strategy but an opportunity for streamers as well.
As long as there is no law broken with it when some streamer promotes a certain casino just by playing with their sponsored money. It depends on the streamer actually how they will going to advertise/promotes a casino using their talent as long as they were good at it. It would be shame to see such streamers that doesn't know what he/she was doing.

I don't even know a single streamers who promotes a casino even if this is just a sponsored money. Both will gain a benefit for promotion plus people will get to know a certain casino that's being promoted. Everyone can do their own way of how they would make their marketing strategy but streamer are on the mainstream already so it's the best to promote for now.

its the same thing as we are here in bitcointalk. we're not streamers but the traffic in this forum is so huge that casinos are considering buying advertising spots in the forum. and also signature campaign. two important aspects were considered, the traffic comes from gamblers and at the same time, they are bitcoin users.

for a streamer to be considered by a casino advertiser, he must have a huge fan base that will help the casino promotion.


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February 19, 2021, 03:20:39 PM
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Only a mad streamer will play with his own money. It's good for the show since they can high-rolling every day and still entertaining viewers. You can easily guess which one is a small streamer (streaming with his own money) since the pressure is there, not just having a good time and laughing together. This kind of sponsor money is okay, and I think anyone with a triple-digit IQ can see that they are sponsored by the casino.

The kind of sponsor money that I don't like is for shillers and guard dogs to play around with reputation.


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February 19, 2021, 04:50:07 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it.
Businesses needed customers and streamers needed something to pay for their bills.  Grin It's a job.

Simple but strongly right! It's business and both sides are benefiting from each other, as long as the business is legit and streamers are not only after with the money but also care about the reputationsof the house who are providing sponsorship, if they are for real and not after to scam the listeners / viewers then it's healthy to work with them.

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Youtube put ads in between one video. Gambling sites and casinos also found their way to get more attention through sponsorships and freebies.
It's just money going back to circulation over and over.


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February 19, 2021, 05:49:38 PM
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I don't watch streamers, so I don't care much how they present themselves and stuff, but it seems to me that taking money from sponsors is completely fine since it's beneficial both for the casino (promotion) and for the streamer (money). However, just shilling about a casino is not a nice practice. I think that it would be best to disclose this info and say openly that they sponsor you. But if someone's paying you, it doesn't mean that you don't express your own opinion. You can both enjoy the experience and get paid. And if you don't really like the casino, you shouldn't take the sponsorship either, I think. So overall, I think it's a normal practice.

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February 19, 2021, 06:55:09 PM
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I don't watch streamers, so I don't care much how they present themselves and stuff, but it seems to me that taking money from sponsors is completely fine since it's beneficial both for the casino (promotion) and for the streamer (money). However, just shilling about a casino is not a nice practice. I think that it would be best to disclose this info and say openly that they sponsor you. But if someone's paying you, it doesn't mean that you don't express your own opinion. You can both enjoy the experience and get paid. And if you don't really like the casino, you shouldn't take the sponsorship either, I think. So overall, I think it's a normal practice.
Really hard to ignore when something like these kind offers would really be given out to you and its really hard to resist because this is already money
or profit for you to make which accepting or making a deal wont really be a problem.Being honest would be just on your part if you do tend to tell
those viewers that those are sponsored money or wont tend to tell them in the beginning and just play and show them on what the site could offer.
Its really a win win situation for both streamer and the casino because the primary motive is on having those things.

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February 19, 2021, 08:34:11 PM
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each country has a different view on this matter...
because I live in the east, the casino sponsoring is bad, because since childhood I was indoctrinated to think that gambling is haram.

If Im a youtuber if ever I will promote their casino once I see it's legit but it's not free because youtuber and streamer are paying to promote or advertise and that is happening right now. I hope those streamer will not only accept that to get money but also they need to search and try it before they going to accept it and going to promote because accepting they name will be front to this and once you promote a casino who is not legit and not good to play your career will be destroy for sure so do research for the streamer who are planning to promote a casino.
Yes, reputation is something that must be protected by streamers so that their good name is not damaged just because of a scam gambling site that became he/she sponsor.

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