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February 19, 2021, 09:22:40 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.

There are, of course, situations when you can not be on the side of the streamer. For example, some casinos can give money to the streamer or blogger from the players who lost their referral link. Here I find it much harder to say that this is normal. Because if in the first situation, the steamer gets paid for advertising, then in the second situation, he is simply interested in losing his viewers. And he will actively offer to play to his viewers.



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February 19, 2021, 09:42:35 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.
Exactly, that is very common sense. What is the purpose of the streamer having advertised such casino games?

Besides streamer has taken care of their subscriber, if they are having scam advertisements, it will I guess ruin their reputation, and having die-hard followers is very hard, it takes a month before you will gather people to listen to your live video. I don't see a reason that streamer becomes bad because they used the gambling owner's money or even that is a fund for having ads.

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February 19, 2021, 09:47:08 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.
Exactly, that is very common sense. What is the purpose of the streamer having advertised such casino games?

Besides streamer has taken care of their subscriber, if they are having scam advertisements, it will I guess ruin their reputation, and having die-hard followers is very hard, it takes a month before you will gather people to listen to your live video. I don't see a reason that streamer becomes bad because they used the gambling owner's money or even that is a fund for having ads.

if they want long lasting relationship with their subscribers, they will only promote legit sites. because viewers now are not that dumb anymore. if they feel that the streamer is just after for the money and not really care about the welfare of his followers, he wont get the attention that he wants from the viewers.
and remember, in this digital age, we can now report immediately those scam sites. so if they will endorse a scam one, it will be easily taken down from circulation.

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February 20, 2021, 02:08:28 AM
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What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.
As long as they are being upfront about it and they are honest with what they see in the gambling website I do not have a problem, the issue is that as we know there are many dishonest people out there that will either hide this information or that will give a positive review of the casino even if the casino is not deserving of one, this is when I will have a problem with the sponsor money as it is not really sponsor anymore but a bought review and the moment someone accepts money for positive reviews then his opinion is worth nothing.
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February 20, 2021, 04:32:43 AM
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As long as they are being upfront about it and they are honest with what they see in the gambling website I do not have a problem, the issue is that as we know there are many dishonest people out there that will either hide this information or that will give a positive review of the casino even if the casino is not deserving of one, this is when I will have a problem with the sponsor money as it is not really sponsor anymore but a bought review and the moment someone accepts money for positive reviews then his opinion is worth nothing.

I think this falls for that sponsored individual.

Before even advertising that gambling site, they should obviously know what kind of site they are dealing with. They should know what is his fans or supporters if what he/she's advertising is right for them. I don't think that it is huge of an issue, this still all falls under the person whom these gambling sites are sponsoring.
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February 20, 2021, 06:41:17 AM
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Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy
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February 20, 2021, 07:49:10 AM
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Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.

What do you things for some streamer who playing using sponsor money? did you feel that was not good or you have another opinion. IMO, I don't mind with some sponsor money as long the streamer admitted on the video he using sponsor money and not just say that was his own money when the reality the money came from sponsor money or even the worst scenario playing using demo money.

And of course, the casino that sponsors the money came from a reputable casino. I believe in bicointalk some casino even reputable casino was also offering this sponsor for some YouTuber or streamer.

I kinda feel got some entertainment from this even they playing with some sponsor money, as long the money sponsor not really a ridiculous amount.


I think using sponsored money is fine and a good way for a streamer to earn some money. You said yourself that every kind of business is doing some sorts of advertising and promotions. The gambling industry shouldn't be any different from it. Like on youtube almost every videos has some form of Ads in them, and I find gambling more interesting than mobile games. The only issue I have here is that the streamer should be forced to tell us if it is a promotion he is doing and if it is not actually his money. As long as there is a disclaimer in place and everybody knows what is going on than it is fine. Not like these case opening scams where the owners of the site would make videos of themselfs how they opened rigged cases and became rich. Such behaviour should not be allowed.
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February 20, 2021, 09:34:04 AM
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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

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February 20, 2021, 10:00:15 AM
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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

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February 20, 2021, 11:32:23 AM
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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.

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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.
But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.

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February 20, 2021, 01:09:07 PM
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Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.


I prefer the second sponsor when playing in a casino, of course, you want the money you've won and you want it to withdraw, even if you are playing for entertainment, in the back of your mind you want to win and taste your winning by having the cash you've won, I consider sponsor money as good for casino marketing, it's part of marketing and not only casinos are doing this.

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Gambling itself is not bad, unless it's against your religion, you should not gamble.

But mostly we tackle gambling is whether it's legal or illegal, and as long as it's not illegal in a certain jurisdiction, it should no be bad as these operators are also contributing to the tax revenue of a certain country where they are operating.

I think what we spread is on how do people gamble responsibly.

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February 20, 2021, 01:25:39 PM
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It is advertising and marketing purposes, so I am ok with that. Whoever the person that marketed the casino should have the creative freedoms to show the casino and the way he plays inside it. But sponsorships is usually a one way street. I mean let's get real folks, you don't pay someone only to give you a negative feedback, right? So the youtube or the celebrity simply shows you his experiences inside the casino and it is up to the audience to decide whether to go there or not.

There's no problem advertising a casino since its not really bad at all, but it matters on the credibility of casino since its really bad to advertise something without knowing the real information and background on what you are advertising and if this one could possibly create chaos due to upcoming scam well that will be a huge mistake by the advertiser since they are one of the tool on why those scam casino scam thousand or shall we say millions of dollars on their gamblers that's why we should verify if they good to advertise or not before we offer it to our audience.

this is where integrity of the endorser comes in. you will see his moral values in this regard. even if he is sponsoring a gambling site, he should make sure that he is promoting a legal one with no existing valid scam allegations. a responsible endorser knows what he is promoting and not only because he is after for the money that he will get.
But sometimes, the endorser does not know about illegal gambling or legal gambling because not all endorser will try to find out about that company or the sites.
As long as he can see the money behind that sponsorship, he will try to give the best for the company which hire them.
It will be a mistake for the endorser if he does that because it can risk his career.
Maybe the endorser needs to be careful if he gets an offer from the company, any company, and it will better to search for them before he accepts that.

It's impossible that they will not do any research on what they are endorsing since it's a dumbest decision to accept whatever it is as long as they will get sponsor and be paid. I know they do a research about this but there are influencer especially those small ones who doesn't care about reputation since the one they aim is to get the paycheck and leave once there job is done.

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February 20, 2021, 02:36:43 PM
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Hey, as long as the Giveaways are coming hard and fast during the Stream...nobody will have a issue with it. Most of these people are begging for tips in chat in any way, so leeching money from the casino through the Steamer giveaways must be sponsored to survive for the next session. (Cheap advertising... mean more profit going to the casino and then more promotions for the gamblers)

Casino advertising is banned on most large platforms, so if they want to sponsor Streamers... then let them do that. I see no problem with that.. it is not unethical.  Roll Eyes

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February 20, 2021, 02:53:18 PM
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Here some sponsor offer I know from some casino:
  • Fully sponsor money
    This one of the most offer some casino give for promoting his casino, they paid some streamer or youtube and fully sponsor the money to play on their casino but with some condition, you cannot withdraw the money
  • Bonus deposit sponsor
    This sponsor was quite rare, I only know some casino that got this sponsor one of the example YouTubers called Drew. Yeah, he got a bonus sponsor deposit when he deposit around 3K USD the casino adds his balance around 2K off course without any requirement like minimum wagger

Right now, I'm want to hear everyone's opinion about sponsor money.
I prefer the second sponsor when playing in a casino, of course, you want the money you've won and you want it to withdraw, even if you are playing for entertainment, in the back of your mind you want to win and taste your winning by having the cash you've won, I consider sponsor money as good for casino marketing, it's part of marketing and not only casinos are doing this.
I agree with you, I won't say ryzaadit is wrong, but I really doubt many casinos are using this "fully sponsor money" system, because nobody is interested in gambling with fake money. The only interest in most of gambling games is to be able to win(or lose) real money precisely  Undecided

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February 20, 2021, 04:30:28 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. It's just part of the advertising campaign and if you're a reasonable person you should understand that. In the same way, you can talk about, for example, clothes and appliances that streamer advertises. There is nothing wrong with the advertising itself.

There are, of course, situations when you can not be on the side of the streamer. For example, some casinos can give money to the streamer or blogger from the players who lost their referral link. Here I find it much harder to say that this is normal. Because if in the first situation, the steamer gets paid for advertising, then in the second situation, he is simply interested in losing his viewers. And he will actively offer to play to his viewers.
I didn't understand a word from your last paragraph. From what I have understood so far, you are saying that streamers are paid money from people who lost their referral links? What do you exactly mean here? It makes no sense at all. Why would any streamer be paid from other people instead of the casino itself? That's like we are paying our money to a streamer for sharing their gambling activity for no reason.
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February 20, 2021, 05:08:54 PM
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The most common in this case is Fully sponsor money. I am intro marketing field and while this kind of advertisement easily brings more customers to your company casino, it is unethical. The casino that runs this kind of marketing is mistaken and they have a very bad team. I strongly believe that marketing must strengthen the connection between the company and the user, must make a user interested in the product/service in a way where the user is pleased and doesn't blame you. You shouldn't make him a victim of marketing, it works well in short term but in long term - it sucks. And the aim of every business should be long term, you have to gain trust during this process and not negativity from customers and society.

At least that's how I think Smiley

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Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.









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February 20, 2021, 06:02:54 PM
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Any streamer, if he talks about any product or organization, does not do it for free! So I don't care whose money he uses... I don't really trust streamers or bloggers at all... It started with reviews of different ICOs ... Cheesy
There are streamers who give honest review about the platforms which is even sponsored but we shouldn't have to trust them blindly because we are going to use our own money so basic research also important before choosing a new platform in any field.
Those whom your are referring to are very rare(streamers,bloggers and You-tubers) becasue they are paid for the advertisement, so, many of them tends to follow what won't hut the gambling platform rather just to give some reviews that won't represent the real casino. Have been a victim of this sometimes ago and have vowed that streamers and loggers are the most deceivers we have in the world, i don't trust their judgement.

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