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Question: Why is Wilder making all these absurd allegations?
He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help - 18 (90%)
He is just seeking attention hoping a trilogy with Fury will go ahead - 2 (10%)
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February 20, 2021, 09:34:56 AM
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Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.


I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.

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February 20, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
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Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.


I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.
Thats what he need for now because everybody do already notice that condition on where his mentality gets really affected with that past fight and just like what most people saying that he do wants to be undefeated
and he wanted to be perfect and to be the best among the rest and on the day that he lost then he cant really just accept it and when you are type of person who are really too emotional then handling out
these kind of situation is really a challenge.

No one can help you out but only yourself but seeking out on your loved ones help would really be beneficial.You do only make yourself look bad into the public if you do really continue to blame out
people randomly  because of your loss.

He does really need some rehab if things cant be handled out well because this might really be the end of his career if mental state would really be come severe
and becomes worst and might be the reason for him to stop boxing for a while or might forever.Sounds exaggerated but its possible to happen.

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February 20, 2021, 01:08:41 PM
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What probably was the reason why he is acting weird after he lose the fight?

I don't understand him, his career is not over yet, he is given a chance for a Trilogy fight and he wasted that opportunity.
So now he will just continue fighting in social media while he slowly loses his career as a boxer.

So sad but it looks like we will not hear from him soon.

Sadly we all know Wilder needs rehabilitation but it is his family and friends that should push him towards seeking help. He needs to stay away from boxing until he gets his focus back and is mentally well again.


I always tend to doubt people who claim conspiracy is done against them.When I first read about spiked water immediately I started laughing and not believe this conspiracy.If it were true that conspiracy was made against him there are hundred of easier and not easily detectable methods to achieve this goal.This guy definitely needs psychological rehab.

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February 20, 2021, 03:59:21 PM
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What probably was the reason why he is acting weird after he lose the fight?

I don't understand him, his career is not over yet, he is given a chance for a Trilogy fight and he wasted that opportunity.
So now he will just continue fighting in social media while he slowly loses his career as a boxer.

So sad but it looks like we will not hear from him soon.

The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

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February 20, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
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Before he was beaten by Fury I never liked Wilder because of what I saw as arrogance. In the days after the fight I sort of had a little respect for him because he was clearly concussed very early on but managed to get through a lot of rounds before the referee stopped it after his team threw in the towel. If they did not do that Fury would have floored him again and he would have been out for the 10 count anyway.

Now I have very little respect for Wilder because what Fury did by promising not to fight because of mental issues Wilder is facing was a genuine action. After a deal could not be made Fury ensured he never fought Wilder again because he would probably cause him irreversible damage.

Wilder blamed it on the costume, then blamed it on Fury allegedly having objects in his gloves then he blame it on Fury slapping him instead of punching him then he blamed it on his team for throwing the towel in then he blamed it on his trainer spiking his water... it is not funny anymore because Wilder needs to be taken to professionals that are trained to help people that suffer from mental issues.


I have never been the biggest fan of wilder with his extremely cocky bronze bomber attitude where he said he still wants to kill someone in the ring.
On the other hand i always respected him that he never doged a fight versus dangerous opponents like anthony joshua did a few times.

His claim that he lost because his costume was entrance costume was too heavy was already wild but this theory now is even Wilder. Pun intended  Wink

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February 20, 2021, 08:31:12 PM
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The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.
Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.
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February 20, 2021, 09:59:22 PM
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The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.
Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.
He should realized on whats better, risking out his entire boxing career or accepting just 1 lost in a fight? Trainor/Coach does know on when to throw the towel
and when its not and he's just minding off his boxer which is a good thing to be done when you get beat up since we know the risk on being hit consecutively.
Its just  a right decision to make and he's just making it as a reason.

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February 21, 2021, 09:56:44 AM
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Wilder is suffering from depression I will go along with that but I think he wants to face Fury in the ring again because he genuinely believes he can beat him and he genuinely believes he should not have lost.

I hope friends and family of Wilder will fore him sort out his mental issues before he considers getting back in the ring.


The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.

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February 21, 2021, 02:57:04 PM
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I am disappointed Wilder can make these ridiculous statements just to tarnish the reputation of the trainer that trained him to be among the best boxers just because of a single fight lost and I wonder what he would have done if he's was a fighter like Luiz Ortiz that he was beaten twice.
He's going to lose alot of fans with his immature habit.

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February 21, 2021, 03:27:24 PM
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We cannot be 100% sure if the water that Mark Breland gave to his trainee Deontay Wilder contained any substances that could influence the distortion of the boxer's reality perception, but we know that Mark Breland's reputation is perfect and this whole story is similar to Deontay Wilder's attempts to justify his defeat at the expense of his trainer.

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February 21, 2021, 03:29:20 PM
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That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

Wilder couldn't accept his defeat which made him release negative statements against his trainer. I guess he really needs to seek professional help because his previous fights might affect his mental condition which isn't healthy for him for this kind of sport. He should see for a psychological help before he enter the ring again. Being physically fit isn't enough to be qualified as a professional player but it also includes good mental condition.
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February 21, 2021, 03:52:19 PM
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That's kinda rough on him completely losing his mind. Maybe it's not the physical trauma that gave him that, but also the stress and anxiety that was put onto him just before the bout. Wilder needs to get psychologically screened and tested, else this might develop into more bizarre claims and uncontrollable 'bouts' in the future. It must have been hard for him to accept defeat, hence the delusion that every one is against him.

Wilder couldn't accept his defeat which made him release negative statements against his trainer. I guess he really needs to seek professional help because his previous fights might affect his mental condition which isn't healthy for him for this kind of sport. He should see for a psychological help before he enter the ring again. Being physically fit isn't enough to be qualified as a professional player but it also includes good mental condition.

He won't win against Fury if he will not accept this defeat.

Why? because he won't see what he needs to improve, he things he is good enough, he only lose because he was cheated.
I can't remember anymore how many times he made and excuses in different reasons, this guy just can't move on, he he was stuck in his own imagination.

Fury vs Wilder 3 will not happen because of Wilder, there's no one to be blame.

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February 21, 2021, 04:16:58 PM
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Next time he would say that he urgently needed to go to WC, so not to get embarrased in front of the crowd, he decided to lose that fight. Or that he had forgotten to turn off the iron at home.

But seriously, if he makes excuses like that, he should not think about a rematch, but must fix his head before.

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February 21, 2021, 06:31:51 PM
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Wilder would have to check his mental health. As much important and powerful his physicality is, he also has to take into account that his mental health is important, and with a sport like that, fhat not only takes toll off of your body but your mind, you're going to need a very tough mindset or at least a backup failsafe plan should you go downhill.
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February 21, 2021, 07:45:39 PM
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Wilder was never the best boxer technically and even before the fury fights he got almost knocked out by ortiz once in their first fight. He always hope to get one of his devastating right hands in because they can end a fight pretty much anytime but apart from that he is an average boxer.
I also think he should have also lost the first fight against fury. I mean fury was knocked down twice but on the other hand he dominated pretty much the whole rest of the fight.
Wilder now needs to stop looking for excuses and try to start a new run for a championship, but it will be hard.
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February 21, 2021, 07:55:38 PM
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I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night.  I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest.  That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time...  The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now.  The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.

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February 21, 2021, 11:14:21 PM
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I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night.  I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest.  That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time...  The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now.  The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.
Yes, there are already some old articles that do mentioned it out.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tyson-fury-1lb-premature-baby-6924598
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7867914/tyson-fury-premature-baby-to-heavyweight-boxing-champ/

what an unbelievable story.This man is already a fighter when he was born.
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February 22, 2021, 03:03:58 PM
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The guy is in depression he is afraid to face Tyson for fear that he will get beaten again so he is playing this kind of game, the fact that he fired his former trainer who is his long time trainer we can easily conclude that he is out of control and he cannot get over and move forward with that loss.
Deontay Wilder is exposing his weakness as he cannot accept defeat and Mark Breland who threw in the towel to save Wilder is a former professional boxer and he knows very well about the consequences for taking punches but he fired him and then coming up with excuses and it is not because he is afraid to fight for the trilogy but he wants to convince himself that he lost because of outsider interference and that will not help him in improving.
He should realized on whats better, risking out his entire boxing career or accepting just 1 lost in a fight? Trainor/Coach does know on when to throw the towel
and when its not and he's just minding off his boxer which is a good thing to be done when you get beat up since we know the risk on being hit consecutively.
Its just  a right decision to make and he's just making it as a reason.
Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight

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February 22, 2021, 05:29:02 PM
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I did not see the interview (never knew anything about it) but I do remember reading somewhere a couple of years ago that Fury was born several weeks premature and weighted very little, it was a miracle he survived as a new born baby then went to beat severe depression and mental issues and went on to become heavyweight hampion of the world. Add to that discriminations that he and his family faced because they were from a traveller bakground, nothing managed to stop him. He has an amazing life story.

I read that his father named him Tyson (after Mike Tyson) because that was his favourite boxer and he knew in the ring Mike Tyson was a real fighter so after he was born and fighting for his life from the first second it made sense to him.


I watched Fury's interview with Mike Tyson on his podcast the other night.  I was surprised to learn that Fury was only 1lb when he was born and managed to get up to over 400lbs at his heaviest.  That's got to be one of the most amazing human growth stories of all time...  The guy has been through a lot growing up as a gypsy and from hearing his story it is easy to see how he got to where he is now.  The guy has been a fighter since his first second on this planet.

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February 22, 2021, 06:40:42 PM
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Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
It is not even about throwing the towel at the right time or wrong time, let's say he did it way too early, let's say he did it on the first second of the fight before anyone even had a punch in, as soon as the bell was ringed he just chucked the towel in, that still does 0% with the spiked water comment. I mean the idea here is that his trainer was so bad and was working with the other team that he spiked his water SO he must have thrown the towel too early as well?

I do not see a connection there, if dude spiked his water he could have just spiked even more and made him lose on the very first round as well, there is no possibility of something like that would have a connection with something else. Dude is just a bad bad loser that ended up having a great career, amazing end record for a career, and that's it, he is going to be someone we forget in a few years time.
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