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Question: Why is Wilder making all these absurd allegations?
He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help - 18 (90%)
He is just seeking attention hoping a trilogy with Fury will go ahead - 2 (10%)
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February 22, 2021, 07:32:16 PM
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Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
Throwing in the towel is the perfect decision by his coach as Wilder was in no shape to continue the fight and he was eating punches. When he first fired his coach for throwing the towel i thought it was a gimmick to claim that his warrior spirit will not allow to go down like that but then once the continued with the same path it was comical as he turned out to be a sore looser.

I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
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February 22, 2021, 10:18:24 PM
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I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

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February 23, 2021, 05:25:41 AM
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Yep, but what makes people think that he completely lost it is when he blame his long time trainer and said that Breland is involved and wanted to see him lost against Tyson Fury.  He obviously parted ways with Breland and put the blame on him for everything that happen to himself. And now he is being exposed as a lazy boxer so we have the reasons why he lost to Fury, didn't train hard, can't be teach new tricks and so he is the real losers here with the way he acts after the fight.
This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
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February 23, 2021, 06:40:57 AM
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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.

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February 23, 2021, 12:47:41 PM
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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.
I believe on this, he should not stop fighting because he only loss once and he is still popular in heavyweight division. The best upcoming fight is the battle between champs which is Fury vs Joshua, but in case Joshua will win, he might be given a chance to fight Joshua and I think he has a chance to beat Joshua and their they are in equal standing as one boxer beats the other.

I like to see that scenario to happen, but it seems it's unlikely to happen due to Wilder's behavior.
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February 24, 2021, 12:20:01 AM
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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true.

Well we are in the social media world right now, so every fans in every sports will really affect their athletes one time or another. Floyd and Manny's fans are the most delusional fans I would say specially during the hype on their fight.

Wilder though is different as he has been saying or claiming things that 90% of us thinks that he has suffered brain damage from that fight with Tyson Fury. The way he acts after the fight and even up to this day is no acceptable.

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February 24, 2021, 09:16:42 AM
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Wilder though is different as he has been saying or claiming things that 90% of us thinks that he has suffered brain damage from that fight with Tyson Fury. The way he acts after the fight and even up to this day is no acceptable.
I don't think it's related to brain damage and stuff, but his failed strategy to do a rematch. He lost, couldn't do a rematch, and he is frustrated. Wilder was at the top and fell down pathetically and the future is not so bright for an exposed boxer.

Lots of boxers got beaten, but they still "sellable" like Pacman, Tyson, etc., but Wilder doesn't have that kind of attractiveness.

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February 24, 2021, 09:53:58 AM
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I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.
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February 24, 2021, 02:08:41 PM
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I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.

Fury does not like it anymore and I don't think a promoter would still love to promote Wilder with that kind of attitude he showed, he has to be professional and will not easily throw words online without any solid basis, he is just looking for an attention but unfortunately in a wrong approach.

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February 24, 2021, 10:47:25 PM
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Wilder is the stereotypical bumbling idiot from Alabama. I am not surprised at all that he actually believes these things and is using it to justify his loss. His fanbase might still believe in him but to the rest of the world he looks like a buffoon. The only way he can repair his image after this devastating loss is to get back to fighting and beat some credible opponents.

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February 24, 2021, 10:55:11 PM
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Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

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February 24, 2021, 10:56:54 PM
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Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

Wilder only lose once in his career, but it looks like he is already losing a lot of times, I'm so disappointed knowing that one lose could end one man's boxing career and that is not the fault of time or the sports itself but its his own fault, he is avoiding the opportunity to reclaim himself and instead he let himself suffer from that long depression if that's the right word to call it.

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February 24, 2021, 11:22:37 PM
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Once a loser you would be a loser and reasoning like this does proves out that you are even more worst than just on losing in a fight on where you cant just accept the reality.

Wilder should move on and prevent that severe mental stress because if he wont really make snap out of it then that would be a problem which might really affect

his entire boxing career which would be the worst scenario could happen. Dont blame others because it is just that there's a better boxer than him and making
some excuse make himself look even more bad or not appealing into the masses.

Wilder only lose once in his career, but it looks like he is already losing a lot of times, I'm so disappointed knowing that one lose could end one man's boxing career and that is not the fault of time or the sports itself but its his own fault, he is avoiding the opportunity to reclaim himself and instead he let himself suffer from that long depression if that's the right word to call it.
We know on how stress can badly affect someones mind which would really result into messing up everything.One lost wont really be enough
for Wilder to leave boxing literally basing off on numbers but once mental health condition is on the talks then that would be an another issue
which would might really be needing some medication which will take some time and he's indeed the only one who can cure or resolve.
If he could just realize then he should able to move on.

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February 25, 2021, 05:45:50 AM
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i want to see his previous conspiracy if that is funnier than this one .
his first conspuracy for their match could have been invalid and he thinks of another one just to convince the watchers that he didnt loose easily in a fair way but his second conspiracy is unbelivable because its his trainer and trainers are doing thier best to condition thier boxer to help them win and not to do something illegal that could make them loose .
what a crazy guy he is
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February 25, 2021, 06:07:08 AM
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You’d think there would be some shred of truth to his claims, but that seems a little far fetched. I saw the fight and it didn’t look like he was drugged or anything, it just looked like he wasn’t the better fighter. Maybe his camp was having some issues but at the end of the day I think they all wanted a victory. If not, he needs to get himself a new staff.

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February 25, 2021, 09:05:36 AM
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You’d think there would be some shred of truth to his claims, but that seems a little far fetched. I saw the fight and it didn’t look like he was drugged or anything, it just looked like he wasn’t the better fighter. Maybe his camp was having some issues but at the end of the day I think they all wanted a victory. If not, he needs to get himself a new staff.

I think he already did get a few new people around him after he lost and that's why he dump his trainer Mark Breland. It's a case of he said, she said here, but like the majority of us who watch the fight many times, Fury is the better man that night and Wilder was really hurt, no plan B and so Fury knock him down and won the fight.

Wilder should move on and chase a fight not name Fury and bring back his confidence again with his new staff around.
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February 25, 2021, 03:57:17 PM
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Wilder should be advised and somebody in his corner should teach him to move forward let go of those fights that keep haunting him and just get back into the ring, he is capable of winning and knocking anybody out, that pick a good boxer to fight, and when he wins it he will forget his loss and can concentrate on winning his title back.
I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.

He is capable off and theres no doubt with that and its just there are really just much better boxer who had able to beat you up.Well, thats how sports do works  on where neither you win or lose.

If he wont really moved on then it would really be hard for him to fight back in his well-conditioned body and mind.

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February 25, 2021, 07:10:58 PM
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I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.
Deontay Wilder does not look like a person who listen to his coaching staff, even if anyone wants to help him genuinely he will shut them out.

He is capable off and theres no doubt with that and its just there are really just much better boxer who had able to beat you up.Well, thats how sports do works  on where neither you win or lose.
With all the blames Deontay Wilder proved that he is not able to make a successful return. His approach to boxing was the intimidating factor and his big punches and once a fighter looses that then other fighters will see that weakness and exploit that and it is not going to be easy for Wilder to overcome those mental obstacles.
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February 26, 2021, 06:38:01 AM
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Every individual that watch the fight knew Wilder trainer throw the towel as at the when expected time cause he's not fit to continue with the fight which he also said he's feeling dizzy due to the blood he lost through his ear cut.
I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
It is not even about throwing the towel at the right time or wrong time, let's say he did it way too early, let's say he did it on the first second of the fight before anyone even had a punch in, as soon as the bell was ringed he just chucked the towel in, that still does 0% with the spiked water comment. I mean the idea here is that his trainer was so bad and was working with the other team that he spiked his water SO he must have thrown the towel too early as well?

I do not see a connection there, if dude spiked his water he could have just spiked even more and made him lose on the very first round as well, there is no possibility of something like that would have a connection with something else. Dude is just a bad bad loser that ended up having a great career, amazing end record for a career, and that's it, he is going to be someone we forget in a few years time.
You are absolutely correct, if the water was indeed spiked the fight between Wilder and Fury shouldn't have reach seventh-round before it reacts on his (Wilder) body. Besides, the reaction should also be reflected in his eyes and legs when he spar.



I once somehow believe his first excuse about Fury having something in his gloves but now I know Wilder just can't get over the fight
Gloves, in ring entrance clothes, spiking his drinks. He has many excuses.
That excuses is merely his fault on his corner's fault, there's nothing to blame or he will just blame himself.
All of that can be corrected in the 3rd fight if he made it easy to happen, he can even wear nothing to solve the clothes problem and will hire a new trainer.
Unfortunately, he didn't do that, his excuses made him look like a real loser, from being a superstar, he has now become a clown in boxing.

But boxers with a lot of ego, like Wilder here, can't accept the blame here, that's why he goes on to look for someone to point at, and now it is his trainer, which he said spike his water or something.

I don't think there will be a 3rd fight now, Fury says no already. Maybe we can see Joshua vs Wilder next. And as far as Wilder now, we don't know who is beside him and whispering to his ears to go to the media and make this claims again.

Fury does not like it anymore and I don't think a promoter would still love to promote Wilder with that kind of attitude he showed, he has to be professional and will not easily throw words online without any solid basis, he is just looking for an attention but unfortunately in a wrong approach.
Shelly Finkel will gladly promote the fight if it going to take place because he stands by Wilder and also makes a statement about Fury not keeping words before he later read the content of the contract signed by Wilder and Fury before the second fight but Fury doesn't want to give Wilder the third fight cause he's more after the undisputed champion fight that's why he begs Joshua to his last fight so they could meet.
I read the undisputed (Joshua vs Fury)fight contract is signed but it yet to be announce.

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February 26, 2021, 09:49:57 AM
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I doubt that he had been told by the team itself when it comes on moving on since from the start on moving on forward specially now that they do able to see that he had really been affected much because of that lose.
Deontay Wilder does not look like a person who listen to his coaching staff, even if anyone wants to help him genuinely he will shut them out.


This issue has only came out when he lose against Fury, the problem is so deep and I think the only problem is Wilder. I don't know how long his coach has been working with him but he was one of the reason of his success, and I don't think disrespecting anyone on his corner would do good for his future.

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