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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
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February 26, 2021, 10:12:38 PM |
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
I guess that would be a great idea, and I think most of us would agree with that poll. The fact that the right did not happen, fans are very much disappointed but good thing that the Joshua vs Fury was already announce and that's enough to shadowed our disappointment.. but go ahead with the poll, it would be interesting to know if what I thought is right. lol.
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February 26, 2021, 10:46:09 PM |
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
Agree with this. Seek for attention? possibly but most likely this is on the side of mental issue rather,basing on behavior it do shows that he cant just accept his defeat and cant move forward or able to move on.He's the only one that could fight into this kind of problem.
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This is unfortunately what ends up killing the drive of many fighters, the media hypes them and then they think they are in fact as big as the hype only to find out later they were not, it was obvious Fury was the best out of the two when it came to technique and pure boxing ability, he is taller, heavier, has a longer reach and a long list of qualities that he had above Wilder, the only thing that Wilder had over him was his incredible punching power, but Fury very rapidly figured out that Wilder needs a lot of space to generate that power so he was over him all the fight, tired him out and then destroyed him.
It is not just the media that is hyping up the fighters, the fans of those fighters that are borderline psychotic are some of the reasons that the fighter might get some delusions of grandeur to the point that he/she thinks that he/she can defeat anyone. Rabid fanbase is the worst thing a celebrity can have because it indirectly affects you psychologically. I think that Wilder can still do some good fights but if he thinks that this fight with Fury is a career ending then it will probably come true. As we know social media has the tendency to become an echo chamber were people only hear what they want to hear, Wilder without a doubt is good but he got where he was mostly thanks to his punching power and not to his boxing ability and once he faced someone like Fury that despite his size can move really well and has very good technique then he had no chance, I just hope that Wilder is training and trying to improve his technique instead of just complaining because if they fight again and he does not change we will see the same result.
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February 27, 2021, 09:03:55 AM |
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.
Nice, I voted for: He is mentally unwell and is need of professional helpI think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury. The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that.
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February 27, 2021, 03:18:42 PM |
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.
Nice, I voted for: He is mentally unwell and is need of professional helpI think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury. The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that. Like what I have mentioned before, there are some fighters that claim that their defeat was due to an external cause (i.e. the other fighter was cheating, the scorecards were bias, etc.) but in fact, the problem is internal. In Wilder's case, I think he is on the latter reason on why he lost this fight. Instead of focusing on the next fight, I think he is spending more time on blaming these external causes instead of just improving. I mean, it is relatively difficult to say especially that I am not on his shoes but he needs to be man and accept defeat in order to move on.
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February 27, 2021, 03:52:16 PM |
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A poll has been added now. I am looking forward to how the voting plays out.
Nice, I voted for: He is mentally unwell and is need of professional helpI think it's pretty obvious that Wilder may have been psychologically affected by his lost to Fury because of his claims and excuses and blames everyone and everything, including his heavy ring walk custome, his former coach Breland, who he said spike his water and is working on the side of Fury. 3-0 so far, all in favor of him being mentally unstable. lol. I voted as well. The only reason why he loss is that Fury is the better man and he can't accept that. Also, we saw in the first fight, Fury can take Wilder's punches and that made Fury a better fighter than him because he moves well and he is more stronger than Wilder. The 2nd fight was really a devastating loss of Wilder, trilogy is not necessary anymore but I still like to watch it if it's possible.
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February 27, 2021, 04:30:49 PM |
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Maybe I should have added a poll asking if members here thought Wilder was simply seeking attention to shore up his efforts to get a fight with Fury or whether he is suffering from some sort of mental issues.
It's hard for us to speculate. If he keeps looking for scapegoats after every defeat it's going to become more obvious but for now it could be his frustration coming out. People love humble fighters who can take a defeat and learn from it. If you aren't like that just keep your mouth shut in public and have all arguments behind closed doors. What Wilder is doing is the shortest way to being booed at his next fight, or even not getting the next fight at all because nobody is going to want to work with him.
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February 27, 2021, 07:56:58 PM |
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Chose up on the poll.
He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help
He need this one because it is quite obvious that he's suffering with some mental issues which do really need some professional help but of course, he should really be the ones to fight off that problem and no other than that.
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February 27, 2021, 09:54:13 PM |
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According to the poll result, a lot of people believe Wilder is mentally unwell and is in need of professional help which quite the opposite if you guys took your time to watch again the video of the fight. Wilder actually wants to the fight to continue before his trainer threw the towel which is what I believe actual cause the reason why he fired him but the spiked water is just a silly excuse. Having said that, Wilder is just looking for a trilogy fight but he's doing it in the wrong way.
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February 27, 2021, 10:03:23 PM |
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Chose up on the poll.
He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help
He need this one because it is quite obvious that he's suffering with some mental issues which do really need some professional help but of course, he should really be the ones to fight off that problem and no other than that.
He needs to stop boxing if he will act this weird everytime he lose, just imagine, he just lose once and he is acting like it's the end of the world for him. I'm sure if he behave professionally after his loss, he might get a trilogy and regardless of the result there's still fights that is lining up for him. Fury now is the champion, his statements is disrespectful to the champion who proved to be a better fighter than him twice, the first one was a draw but people know who really won the fight.
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I have not heard of this. A very funny situation. I cannot judge Deontays' mental health, and I think the survey is too unfair. It may be absurd, but sometimes even the stupidest conspiracy theories turn out to be true. Theoretically, this could happen, and why not happen when millions and tens of millions of dollars are at stake? Accordingly, I would add a third point to the vote, that he may be right.
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February 27, 2021, 10:22:24 PM |
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Chose up on the poll.
He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help
He need this one because it is quite obvious that he's suffering with some mental issues which do really need some professional help but of course, he should really be the ones to fight off that problem and no other than that.
He needs to stop boxing if he will act this weird everytime he lose, just imagine, he just lose once and he is acting like it's the end of the world for him. I'm sure if he behave professionally after his loss, he might get a trilogy and regardless of the result there's still fights that is lining up for him. Fury now is the champion, his statements is disrespectful to the champion who proved to be a better fighter than him twice, the first one was a draw but people know who really won the fight. People arent that blind on not to tell on whose better on just seeing that 1st fight then even it do ends up on a draw but still we can really see on whose the winner on that one and it had been proven out on that 2nd fight which Wilder did lost and the next thing happened is on when making out reasons after that which it turns out that he cant really just accept on what happen.He do really believe too much into himself but once reality slap you in the face then you would really be having some hard time to accept it.
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He needs to stop boxing if he will act this weird everytime he lose, just imagine, he just lose once and he is acting like it's the end of the world for him. I'm sure if he behave professionally after his loss, he might get a trilogy and regardless of the result there's still fights that is lining up for him.
Fury now is the champion, his statements is disrespectful to the champion who proved to be a better fighter than him twice, the first one was a draw but people know who really won the fight.
That is precisely the problem, he was never that good when it came to the technique of boxing but since he had such an impressive punching power he could get away with it for all his career, but now that he has lost just when he believed he was invincible and to lose in such an awful way has affected his mind, there are many athletes that lost and then cameback and that made them even greater on the eyes of the public, but he cannot accept the fact he lost so the only way to reconcile those two facts is to create completely crazy theories about why he lost. By the way as you may imagine I voted for the option that states he is not mentally well and needs help. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
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March 02, 2021, 07:33:12 PM |
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
The question is, would he really be accepting that suggestion nor accept to himself that he's really on a mental problem? This would be hard, he would be refusing nor denying at its best. Mental issues are really hard to solved on if you cant do it on yourself then seeking help to others would be your last option. If he can just accept the reality then people would just simply ignore and forget on what happened.
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
The question is, would he really be accepting that suggestion nor accept to himself that he's really on a mental problem? This would be hard, he would be refusing nor denying at its best. Mental issues are really hard to solved on if you cant do it on yourself then seeking help to others would be your last option. If he can just accept the reality then people would just simply ignore and forget on what happened. The longer he will accept the lesser his chance of coming back in sport. Thing is, his value is still high as a boxer, he can still make more money with more fights but the way he think and acts, that's stripping away that opportunity from him, unless he will apologize and try to be professional afterwards.
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Even though just 8 votes have been cast in the poll so far it is pointing clearly towards Wilder being in need of professional help to recover from his mental issues.
The question is, would he really be accepting that suggestion nor accept to himself that he's really on a mental problem? This would be hard, he would be refusing nor denying at its best. Mental issues are really hard to solved on if you cant do it on yourself then seeking help to others would be your last option. If he can just accept the reality then people would just simply ignore and forget on what happened. The longer he will accept the lesser his chance of coming back in sport. Thing is, his value is still high as a boxer, he can still make more money with more fights but the way he think and acts, that's stripping away that opportunity from him, unless he will apologize and try to be professional afterwards. That is the problem, in order to improve on anything then you need to have a clear vision of what you are doing right and what you are doing wrong so you can improve, but if instead you give excuses which do not make sense then you have no motivation to work hard to improve, and without that he has no chance to recover his belt against Fury, if another fight was agreed upon it can be argued that he will lose even more convincingly as Fury will probably improve his game plan even further for the next fight.
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March 06, 2021, 10:52:19 AM |
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Only 8 votes have been cast in the poll. 7 votes for: "He is mentally unwell and is need of professional help"
This thread deserves more votes.
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