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This is an experiment of what would happen if I followed a specific system in my sports gambling. I haven’t tried it out in practice or used it with real money bets. I wanted to see how profitable it could be to select a few teams and gamble on the same outcomes for those teams every time. My choice fell on 2 teams from the French Ligue 2 and 2 from the Dutch Eerste Divisie. All teams play in the second divisions of their respective leagues. The selected teams:• Paris FC • Sochaux • Nijmegen • Roda Why these teams and leagues?I wanted to perform the experiment with relatively well-positioned teams on the table but not positioned too high to always be considered favourites. The teams need to win enough matches in a league season but not be top of their leagues. Otherwise, the odds wouldn’t be favourable. I selected teams positioned in the 6th and 7th place in their leagues when this experiment began. You can see from the screenshots below how the league tables looked a few days ago. Eerste Divisie – Netherlands Ligue 2 – France I choose these two leagues because there are often surprises. Many unexpected results and the favourites don’t always win. The betting systemThe rules are very simple: • Every time the selected teams play at home, I bet on a draw (X). • When they play away, I bet on an away win (2). • If the selection losses, I double the stakes for their next match. I continue to double the stakes until the team wins. • If the team wins, the cycle restarts and I bet the initial stake amount. • When two teams from the same leagues play against each other, I skip that match, and I don’t bet. Why these selections?Because of the odds. This betting system is nothing new, and it’s known as the Martingale system. We need odds of 2.00 or higher to be profitable. Betting on draws and away wins usually have higher odds compared to home wins. Especially if the teams aren’t league favourites (that’s why I choose teams from the upper part of the league tables). Are there any risks with this system?Of course, there are. You need a lot of money to buy yourself out of trouble every time your teams lose. You may experience 5 or 10 losses in a row. There are no guarantees you will win – it’s all based on luck, after all. Another risk is that sportsbooks can ban or limit your account if they notice known gambling patterns. You should also check if using known betting systems is legal and allowed according to your bookies TOS. I don’t know if bookie’s do that and how often. You need to consider if the sportsbook you are using has a maximum betting limit for that particular league you have selected. Maybe your bookie allows no bets above $100 for these leagues or any other league you decide to try it on. In that case, you will run into problems if you need to double your bet from $100 to $200. How I choose to bet, and what profit/losses did I make?- My initial stake was $3. - I have compiled a list with all my teams' results for the entire 2020/2021 season. - A profit/loss count is found after each round. The odds were taken from a local live score https://www.rezultati.com/. I think they use bet365 as a reference for their odds. The good thing is that the odds on crypto bookies are higher than on bet365 and many other fiat bookies. - All posted odds were taken from rezultati.com for the X or 2 betting selection, respectively. - All results were taken from that site and compared with official stats at https://keukenkampioendivisie.nl/ and https://www.ligue2.fr/. You can see the results and the overall profits of how it could have looked if I actually placed these bets in the next post. THIS IS NOT BETTING ADVICE, AND SHOULDN’T BE CONSIDERED AS SUCH! THIS IS WRITTEN FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY!
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Paris FCRound 1Chambly vs Paris FC 0:3 Odds: 3.25 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$9.75Round 2Paris FC vs Valenciennes 1:0 Odds: 3.10 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 3Amiens vs Paris FC 1:2 Odds: 3.50 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$21.00Round 4Paris FC vs Nancy 0:2 Odds: 2.80 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 5Niort vs Paris FC 2:2 Odds: 2.60 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 6Paris FC vs Le Havre 3:0 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 7Paris FC vs Pau FC 1:0 Odds: 3.30 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 8Chateauroux vs Paris FC 1:2 Odds: 2.30 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: +$110.40Round 9Paris FC vs Caen 3:1 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 10Dunkerque vs Paris FC 0:1 Odds: 1.95 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$11.70Round 11Paris FC vs Auxerre 0:3 Odds: 3.25 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 12Grenoble vs Paris FC 0:0 Odds: 3.10 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 13Played against Sochaux: 0:0 Round 14Troyes vs Paris FC 3:1 Odds: 3.10 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 15Paris FC vs Rodez 1:1 Odds: 3.30 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: +$79.20Round 16Clermont vs Paris FC 3:2 Odds: 3.80 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 17Paris FC vs Guingamp 3:2 Odds: 3.60 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 18Toulouse vs Paris FC 1:0 Odds: 3.40 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 19Paris FC vs AC Ajaccio 1:1 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: +$72.00Round 20Valenciennes vs Paris FC 2:0 Odds: 1.95 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 21Paris FC vs Amiens 4:2 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 22Nancy vs Paris FC 1:1 Odds: 2.15 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 23Paris FC vs Niort 3:3 Odds: 3.60 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: +$86.40Round 24Le Havre vs Paris FC 1:0 Odds: 2.45 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 25Pau FC vs Paris FC 1:1 Odds: 2.05 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Total profit/loss for Paris FC: +132.45 SochauxRound 1Auxerre vs Sochaux 0:2 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$12.00Round 2Sochaux vs Troyes 2:1 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 3Toulouse vs Sochaux 0:0 Odds: 3.20 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 4Sochaux vs Rodez 2:2 Odds: 2.90 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: +$34.80 Round 5AC Ajaccio vs Sochaux 1:1 Odds: 3.80 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 6Sochaux vs Chambly 3:2 Odds: 3.25 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 7Valenciennes vs Sochaux 0:0 Odds: 2.37 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 8Sochaux vs Amiens 0:2 Odds: 2.75 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 9Guingamp: Sochaux 0:0 Odds: 4.20 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: -$48.00Round 10Sochaux vs Niort 3:4 Odds: 3.10 Stake: $96.00 Profit/Loss: -$96.00Round 11Chateauroux vs Sochaux 2:1 Odds: 2.50 Stake: $192.00 Profit/Loss: -$192.00Round 12Sochaux vs Le Havre 4:0 Odds: 2.87 Stake: $384.00 Profit/Loss: -$384.00Round 13Played against Paris FC Round 14Sochaux vs Nancy 1:1 Odds: 2.90 Stake: $768.00 Profit/Loss: +$2,227.20Round 15Pau FC vs Sochaux 0:0 Odds: 2.55 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 16Sochaux vs Grenoble 1:1 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$18.00Round 17Caen vs Sochaux 1:4 Odds: 3.10 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$9.30Round 18Sochaux vs Dunkerque 1:0 Odds: 3.20 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 19Sochaux vs Clermont 0:0 Odds: 2.87 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$17.22Round 20Troyes vs Sochaux 2:1 Odds: 4.75 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 21Sochaux vs Toulouse 0:1 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 22Rodez vs Sochaux 1:1 Odds: 2.50 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 23Sochaux vs AC Ajaccio 0:2 Odds: 2.90 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 24Chambly vs Sochaux 1:4 Odds: 2.15 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: +$103.20Round 25Sochaux vs Valenciennes 2:0 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Total profit/loss for Sochaux: +747.72 NijmegenRound 1Cambuur vs Nijmegen 2:0 Odds: 6.50 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 2FC Volendam vs Nijmegen 1:3 Odds: 3.25 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$19.50Round 3Nijmegen vs Jong Ajax 2:1 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 4Nijmegen vs Almere 0:1 Odds: 3.75 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 5Graafschap vs Nijmegen 2:0 Odds: 4.33 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 6Nijmegen vs Eindhoven 6:0 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 7Jong PSV vs Nijmegen 1:1 Odds: 1.57 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: -$48.00Round 8Jong Utrecht vs Nijmegen 1:4 Odds: 1.90 Stake: $96.00 Profit/Loss: +$182.40Round 9Nijmegen vs G.A. Eagles 2:1 Odds: 1.90 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 10Breda vs Nijmegen 0:1 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$24.00Round 11Nijmegen vs Helmond 2:2 Odds: 4.75 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$14.25Round 12Jong AZ vs Nijmegen 0:3 Odds: 2.30 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$6.90Round 13Played against Roda 1:1 Round 14Nijmegen vs Maastricht 2:1 Odds: 6.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 15Den Bosch vs Nijmegen 2:2 Odds: 1.60 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 16Dordrecht vs Nijmegen 1:2 Odds: 1.40 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: +$16.80Round 17Nijmegen vs FC Oss 0:1 Odds: 4.50 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 18Telstar vs Nijmegen 5:2 Odds: 1.95 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 19Nijmegen vs Excelsior 3:2 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 20Nijmegen vs Cambuur 0:0 Odds: 3.40 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: +$81.60Round 21Eindhoven vs Nijmegen 0:1 Odds: 2.25 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$6.75Round 22Nijmegen vs Jong Utrecht 2:0 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 23Maastricht vs Nijmegen 2:1 Odds: 1.61 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Total profit/loss for Nijmegen: +61.20 RodaRound 1Jong Ajax vs Roda 0:4 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: +$12.00Round 2Roda vs FC Oss 3:0 Odds: 4.75 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 3Graafschap vs Roda 4:0 Odds: 5.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 4Roda vs Dordrecht 4:0 Odds: 5.50 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 5Eindhoven vs Roda 3:3 Odds: 1.95 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 6Roda vs FC Volendam 1:1 Odds: 3.75 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: +$180.00Round 7Almere vs Roda 2:1 Odds: 3.50 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 8Roda vs Telstar 1:1 Odds: 3.80 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$22.80Round 9Cambuur vs Roda 3:0 Odds: 8.50 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 10Roda vs Den Bosch 0:0 Odds: 4.50 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$27.00Round 11Jong Utrecht vs Roda 2:0 Odds: 2.37 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 12Roda vs Maastricht 2:0 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 13Played against Nijmegen Round 14Roda vs Excelsior 3:1 Odds: 3.60 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 15Jong PSV vs Roda 1:1 Odds: 1.95 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: -$24.00Round 16Roda vs Helmond 2:2 Odds: 3.80 Stake: $48.00 Profit/Loss: +$182.40Round 17Roda vs G.A. Eagles 0:3 Odds: 3.30 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 18Jong AZ vs Roda 0:1 Odds: 1.85 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$11.10Round 19Breda vs Roda 2:2 Odds: 4.00 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 20Roda vs Graafschap 1:3 Odds: 3.40 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: -$6.00Round 21Roda vs Jong Utrecht 2:1 Odds: 3.40 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00Round 22Dordrecht vs Roda 0:5 Odds: 1.60 Stake: $24.00 Profit/Loss: +$38.40Round 23Roda vs Jong PSV 5:1 Odds: 3.80 Stake: $3.00 Profit/Loss: -$3.00Round 24Excelsior vs Roda 1:3 Odds: 2.87 Stake: $6.00 Profit/Loss: +$17.22Profit/Loss for Roda: +220.92
Total profit made at the end of the experiment: $1,162.29
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I wish you luck, I don't remember ever seeing a system that was that straightforward, however I'm worried about the fact that you are using martingale and that is because as we know martingale is a system that sooner or later will make you lose money, if your system is truly profitable you will not need any kind of progression for this to eventually show up.
We must remember that even with a winning system if you have subpar skills when it comes to managing your money then you will lose money, as such using martingale is in my mind always a mistake but it is even a bigger one when you actually have an edge because the only thing that you need to become a loser is just a little bit of bad luck, and that happens to everyone and by the time that you realize your mistake it is too late and there is nothing you can do about it.
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February 19, 2021, 10:14:28 AM |
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Nice, your systems seems to be working one and you made a money with it. What online platform do you use to bet? Like I mentioned in the opening post, I haven't placed these bets. I just documented what could have happened if I did, and what the overall profit/loss would look like. I don't like playing around with systems like this, but I know that some people do. Regarding your question about online bookies, I prefer betting with FortuneJack and Sportsbet.io. I have never had any issues with either of those except the occasional security check on FJ. That is normal, so I have no reason to change. I wish you luck, I don't remember ever seeing a system that was that straightforward, however I'm worried about the fact that you are using martingale and that is because as we know martingale is a system that sooner or later will make you lose money, It requires a huge bankroll especially when you are betting on multiple teams. In theory, you can lose like 10 matches in a row per team. To continue the system, you are going to need thousands and tens of thousands of $.
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I wish you luck, I don't remember ever seeing a system that was that straightforward, however I'm worried about the fact that you are using martingale and that is because as we know martingale is a system that sooner or later will make you lose money, It requires a huge bankroll especially when you are betting on multiple teams. In theory, you can lose like 10 matches in a row per team. To continue the system, you are going to need thousands and tens of thousands of $. Applying martingale in real events is different from an apply in the casino, betting and losing 10 games in teams that are in the middle of the table would be very very unlucky. I liked your system... usually, peoples bet on whoever is at the top and the profits of these teams are usually lower since the victory results are more predictable. Your simulation resulted in a good profit, it really is a good strategy that is worth using if applied carefully. Good luck!
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I am liking what I see regarding the numbers.I am strongly astonished to see that teams in lower leagues perform this better.I am also impressed with your system which strangely enough seems to be working good.I am thinking to copy this with lower bets and see how it goes but I am not that patient to wait when the selected teams.
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An interesting game system, but even with small stakes requires strong will and perseverance, and of course a lot of money. It is impressive that you made a profit after the experiment, but when betting on Sochaux in round 14 you have a stake of as much as $768.00.
I personally have never experienced the martingale system, honestly the idea of doubling the stakes after each loss was too much for my wallet - because I always played for high stakes. Now that you’ve tried the method with no real stakes, will you perhaps try something similar for real money?
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Nice thread (we need more of those in here), I always like to follow these things. Not a fan of Martingale, but people are always tempted to try it, because what can go wrong ? You just need stamina, infinite money and nerves of steel I would think it works in (football) betting, but only if you start with very low stakes, very low. But then again you will win very low amounts as well and that is turning off people then again. You always want the big money, eh ? And it has to be safe of course. Another risk is that sportsbooks can ban or limit your account if they notice known gambling patterns. You should also check if using known betting systems is legal and allowed according to your bookies TOS. I don’t know if bookie’s do that and how often. I wouldn't worry with that. Since there is no working betting system (other than value), every bookie will happily allow you to play any system you wish on their site. And you shouldn't only use one or two bookmakers for such system anyway. Then you will also not run into the following issue: You need to consider if the sportsbook you are using has a maximum betting limit for that particular league you have selected. Maybe your bookie allows no bets above $100 for these leagues or any other league you decide to try it on. In that case, you will run into problems if you need to double your bet from $100 to $200. First of all, you should always shop for the best odds, having accounts/money in a lot of sites. This is especially important, if you are on a losing streak and your stakes must get higher and higher to compensate earlier losses - a 3.00 or 3.10 makes a huge difference here already. This will always lead you to the big (asian) bookies sooner or later, because they have the best odds and they also have the highest limits. With some agents tools (like Mollybet), you can place big bets with one click in multiple asian books. If that still isn't enough, you can go to Tier2 bookies and continue placing there with lower limits/lower odds.
I would probably track some more teams/leagues and don't jump in right away, but let them go on a streak of not drawing at home or winning away and then start the Martingale. Could save you some money or not let your stakes get very high too soon. But not sure
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I am thinking to copy this with lower bets and see how it goes but I am not that patient to wait when the selected teams. That is the flaw with a system like this. You have to wait otherwise it won't work. Now that you’ve tried the method with no real stakes, will you perhaps try something similar for real money? Probably not. Due to the things you mentioned yourself. If I had placed bets on Sochaux, I would have needed a total of $1,533 just to place that last winning bet in round #14 that brought me profit. Before that, 8 matches in a row didn't go the way I would have wanted. Imagine if the bookie limited or blocked my account before round #14, and I had no way to bet on that match? Let's say I get my account unblocked in time for round #15. That match was a loss too! Now I need over $3,000 for the next round. The risks are simply too big. I might consider a different approach. I have something else on my mind, but I have to check a couple of leagues to see where it could be applied in the best way. Nice thread (we need more of those in here) Thanks mate! I wouldn't worry with that. Since there is no working betting system (other than value), every bookie will happily allow you to play any system you wish on their site. That's good to know. To be honest I always thought bookies will ban or limit you if you attempt something like this. This will always lead you to the big (asian) bookies sooner or later, because they have the best odds and they also have the highest limits. I have never played at any Asian bookies. Which of them are good?
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I have never played at any Asian bookies. Which of them are good? Well, they are a bit different to access than your normal bookie nowadays, i.e. the only possibility for the majority of gamblers is via an agent. You can then either make a single account with these bookies, or use some tool the agent provides. Here is some information about it, if you are interested (I am not getting anything for this): https://betinasia.com/black/This is all fiat-based, though you can deposit with crypto. And KYC is needed at the agent, so it has its disadvantages as well. Dafabet is an asian bookie, which you can access without an agent: https://www.dafabet.com/enAll in all, this is really for the more advanced and/or high-staking bettors; for most casual/recreational ones, it's probably not worth the effort and the sometimes inconvenience of having a middle-man. And by inconvenience I don't mean your money not being safe, but rather that everything is done via the agent (deposits/withdrawals/communication in case of dispute etc.) - can be weary.
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February 19, 2021, 08:41:15 PM |
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Seems like a good strategy, none of the ones I've tried (including Martingale, but not in sports) worked for me. But yours turned out to be effective, probably, because apart from pure luck and doubling after each loss you take odds into consideration combined with the probability of winning, which is why you choose draw and away win. About that Another risk is that sportsbooks can ban or limit your account if they notice known gambling patterns. You should also check if using known betting systems is legal and allowed according to your bookies TOS. I don’t know if bookie’s do that and how often.
Can they actually do that? How will the sportsbooks know and, more importantly, how can they prove, that this wasn't your real well-thought choice and you're using patterns? Maybe to avoid this one can select teams from a slightly different position each time (e.g. one time you take 6th and 7th, and the other 5th and 6th, something like that). Surely, that'll shift the odds, but not significantly, so I think that still might work.
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@tyKiwanuka Thanks for the list. I took a look at the first link you provided. I recognized Sbobet and Matchbook and I have played on these sites in the past without needing the services of an agent. Maybe things have changed in the meantime. Can they actually do that? How will the sportsbooks know and, more importantly, how can they prove, that this wasn't your real well-thought choice and you're using patterns? I was just making assumptions, I don't know if they pay that much attention. But they could notice that you are doubling your stakes on the same teams and for the same type of events, for example. tyKiwanuka says it's not something worth worrying about, so let's trust him that he is right.
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Can they actually do that? How will the sportsbooks know and, more importantly, how can they prove, that this wasn't your real well-thought choice and you're using patterns? I was just making assumptions, I don't know if they pay that much attention. But they could notice that you are doubling your stakes on the same teams and for the same type of events, for example. tyKiwanuka says it's not something worth worrying about, so let's trust him that he is right. You should be fine with playing any martingale or any other system as long as you are betting on reputable leagues. You could run into problems if you are betting let's say on Croatian 3rd league since your stake will get limited on most sites. And those limits could ruin your martingale after doubling the stake many times. If you chose top league like Premier League I am sure you will run out of money much sooner than any reputable site would even think to limit your stakes
@Pmalek I actually have one system which works quite well but still it is not something I would recommend for long term. All those systems will work well for some time and you will get modest profits and then it will liquidate you once and you will end with less money than you started with. It is modified martingale when you bet just on draws and instead of doubling on your stake you raise it by half. You are fine as long as odds are above 3 but you can actually often find odds closer to 4 which helps a lot to raise the profits. Raising your stake by coefficient of 1.5 instead of 2 gives you much more leeway to lose the games without breaking the bank. You can employ the system on single team like you did and chase that draws, or simply chose few likely games each day and play them in order.
I don't like Asian bookies since they often make some games void which are paid out normally in all other bookies. Some of them have really strict rules when odds are changing and immediately void your bets. Maybe things changed I have not used them for quite some time.
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It's very risky and a lot can go wrong, but wow, in your experiment you made an amazing profit! It doesn't mean that this approach would work again, I think, but it's a nice case study. However, you didn't put actual money into it and thus didn't really turn $3 into $1k if I understand correctly. That's the only sad thing about it. And you were "betting" on the outcome in these rounds, right? It's just that you write the score of every match, but the odds are for the 1x2 outcome, correct?
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It is modified martingale when you bet just on draws and instead of doubling on your stake you raise it by half. That's very similar to what I wanted to try next. But I didn't consider raising the odds by 1.5, I was thinking of doubling it in a league that statistically has plenty of draws. Thanks for the tip about raising the stake money only by half. I will have to check where it can be applied. And you were "betting" on the outcome in these rounds, right? It's just that you write the score of every match, but the odds are for the 1x2 outcome, correct? All the odds you see in the 2nd post are for the outcomes I wanted to bet on. It's not the odd of the actual result. For example: Round 6Paris FC vs Le Havre 3:0 Odds: 3.00 Stake: $12.00 Profit/Loss: -$12.00The 3.00 odds wasn't the odds on Paris FC to win the match. Those odds were offered for the draw.
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February 21, 2021, 08:14:37 AM |
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It is modified martingale when you bet just on draws and instead of doubling on your stake you raise it by half. That's very similar to what I wanted to try next. But I didn't consider raising the odds by 1.5, I was thinking of doubling it in a league that statistically has plenty of draws. Thanks for the tip about raising the stake money only by half. I will have to check where it can be applied. Raising money by half instead of doubling gets you smaller profits but the up side is that after you have lost 10 bets in a row with doubling you have to make 25600$ bet and with raising them by 1.5 you have to make just 1950$ bet, starting bet 50$ in both cases. That mitigates a lot of the problems with martingale system and makes it much more feasible in the long run at least for me. That is another example how fast martingale systems spin out of control and the reason I am not using them and would never recommend them to anybody. That being said I often double my stake after loosing first ticket in the day but if I lose that one I just take the losses and start fresh next day.
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Lordhermes
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February 21, 2021, 09:30:52 AM |
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Wow, this betting system would be nice if executed consecutively and I will really love to participate in this experiment, every experiment is worth trying since starting with little sum of $3 wouldn't be a threat to me I created similar thread called rollover betting challenge system last year where a particular odd was to be targeted, the challenge I had was inconsistent winning, it doesn't occur all the time, and by that my fund decrease over time, so I stopped. - Every time the selected teams play at home, I bet on a draw (X).
- When they play away, I bet on an away win (2).
One of the challenge/flaws I may find with your experiment is that, most time the selected team plays perfectly at home, most teams have many wins and less draws at home ground unlike the opposite, looking at the match history of a club, you'll find out they probably have good outcomes at home ground, I know your aim is about high odds right? So which is necessary, high odds or good outcomes? I prefer good results. Also this experiment would be best used in high competitive league like that of serie A because of the win and draw options to be at the advantage.
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February 21, 2021, 09:48:01 AM |
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Kudos Pmalek! It was so amusing to read your OP and the main specs of your experiment, which it looks to have been quite profitable too. I think I had similar ideas in the past but as for many things in my life I lack consistency Now in my spare time I'll check to see if some teams like the one youìve picked can be found and start something similar. After all, we are talking $3 to start with.
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February 21, 2021, 06:07:47 PM |
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Choosing the teams seems to be the hardest part here and require a bit of knowledge about the league. You have to choose them carefully so the odds will be always above 2x otherwise the strategy will fail. Also it requires a big bankroll and strong nerves. Although I was just reading the stats you posted and had nothing to lose, I started paniking when I saw the $768 bet! Thanks for sharing Pmalek and congrats on the nice profit.
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February 22, 2021, 01:21:21 AM |
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Choosing the teams seems to be the hardest part here and require a bit of knowledge about the league. You have to choose them carefully so the odds will be always above 2x otherwise the strategy will fail. Also it requires a big bankroll and strong nerves. Although I was just reading the stats you posted and had nothing to lose, I started paniking when I saw the $768 bet! Thanks for sharing Pmalek and congrats on the nice profit. Its about taking risk and trusting your own system, this is gambling after all and we all have to take the risk to become more profitable. Betting is not easy at all, if you're serious in betting this kind of strategy is good, though for me it takes time and need a lot of work but if you're betting with a huge money, I guess this is worth it. Will, look closely to this strategy and I might follow this one as well because we all want to make money on betting.
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