EU Told to Back Vaccine Passports or Google May Do It Anyway

[BADecker]

Time to reset freedom in the USA. How? Form Private Membership Associations that outlaw within themselves, any form of Covid controls, and even the recognition of it... except to promote good nutrition and supplementation so that members remain disease-free, as well as politically/governmentally free.


Vaccine Passports: Your Ticket To Tyranny

Mainstream media is reporting that the Biden Administration is seriously looking into establishing some kind of Federal vaccine passport system, where Americans who cannot (or will not) prove to the government they have been jabbed with the experimental vaccine will be legally treated as second-class citizens. The system will quickly morph into a copy of China's "social credit" system, where undesirable behaviors are severely punished. With Covid dying out across the country as herd immunity is reached, "vaccine passports" seems more about more government control than public health.

Vaccine Passports: Your Ticket To Tyranny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAJ3mYqG2MM

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[mindrust]

I agree on you here. But what will you do when you need to travel outside your country, and that country will only accept travelers that got their covid shot? Right now, they are not that strict yet. But I can see that some countries will require this vaccine before they can enter in their area of jurisdiction. Or they will implement some strict rules to those who don't have vaccine. I also believe that not all people should get this shot. A lot of viruses have been here already, like ebola or dengue virus and other deadly viruses. How many of us has this vaccine in our body to combat these viruses?

I have already forgotten about those days. I accepted the reality that I will never leave my country in the next 10 years. (maybe more) Not getting that poison is more important than having a few vacations. I suggest you do the same thing. (unless you live in a complete dirthole)

Or... get a fake vax cert. Bribe the doc and they will fake your shot.

[BADecker]

What is the status of Brexit. Is the UK getting out of the European Union?

Why is this important? Because the UK (except for Scotland) is based in common law. The other EU nations are based in civic law. What's the difference?

Common law allows for a 12-person jury that doesn't have to accept judging instructions directed from the magistrate. They can make their own decisions in a case that they feel are right, thereby nullifying laws in a case when necessary.

Civil law either doesn't have a jury, or else the jury is really just another side of the magistrate, there to help the magistrate make a better decision in a case.

Common law = people rule via the courts.

Civil law = magistrate rule via the courts.

In the US, the magistrate is generally called a judge. In the UK, the judge is generally called a magistrate. In the US, the head magistrate in a State is usually the governor of the State.

[hornetsnest]

[OutOfMemory]

What I don't understand either is how there are people who, when there are so many billions of $ at stake, blindly trust the pharmaceutical companies.

"Trust, don't verify"

That's our motto now. Why do you think Bill Gates or any other big-pharma company would do something to harm people?

Did they ever do this? No, of course not.

Pfizer for example is as innocent as a newborn baby.

Close your eyes and believe Poker Player. Everything will be great.

Yeah, trust the salesmen. They only want the best for you, for us all!  

[cryptosize]

you can still go to supermarkets no matter what
stop making up idiot conspiracies.

we get it you lost the old idiot conspiracy about nano robots
we get it you lost the old idiot conspiracy about monkey/fetus tissue
we get it you lost the old idiot conspiracy about vaccine more deadly than the disease

just accept your losses and start dealing with facts. stop creating more lies. its never going to win you anything

Well, let's just say this didn't age too well.

seems we have a conspiracy nut..

there is no biometric government ID+healthcare 'passport' that will link everything together and allow freedom of access to flights by 2021. and it appears there wont ever be.

take your tin foil hat off

This didn't age too well either:

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/carbon-passports-explainer/index.html

 

What I don't understand either is how there are people who, when there are so many billions of $ at stake, blindly trust the pharmaceutical companies.

"Trust, don't verify"

That's our motto now. Why do you think Bill Gates or any other big-pharma company would do something to harm people?

Did they ever do this? No, of course not.

Pfizer for example is as innocent as a newborn baby.

Close your eyes and believe Poker Player. Everything will be great.

I'm genuinely disappointed when I see Bitcoiners blindly trusting governments and Big Pharma.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24840410/secret-california-lab-deadly-viruses-humanised-mice-china/

And you want to inject me with something that will change my DNA?

The vaccine does not change your DNA. There is no way it even could change your DNA without rewriting everything we know about cell biology.

This didn't age well...

https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-goes-into-liver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/

It's basic high-school Biology knowledge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcriptase

Yes, older people and those with comorbidities have a higher risk of death from COVID (and I never claimed otherwise), but young people are dying, healthy people are dying, and young healthy people are dying.

Many young people are fat. That's not "healthy":

https://www.ft.com/content/7db2b641-c831-4876-ba0c-0f815a42c8f0?segmentID=5b3cb929-a23e-88ae-662f-4cae036b0dee

"Fat acceptance" is a scam to keep people unhealthy.

[o_e_l_e_o]

This didn't age well...

https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-goes-into-liver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/

A press release quoting this moron is hardly conclusive proof of anything.

Regardless, let's take a look at the study itself. It shows that reverse transcription happens (in unstable cells in a Petri dish), which we already knew. It does not show the vaccine changing our DNA.

Here are what the authors of the study say about it:

This study does not investigate whether the Pfizer vaccine alters our genome.

There is no reason for anyone to change their decision to take the vaccine based on this study.

I'm genuinely disappointed when I see Bitcoiners blindly trusting governments and Big Pharma.

You know very well from our conversations on other topics, such as about CBDCs, that I do not trust the government one bit. Getting vaccinated has nothing to do with trusting the government, however, but simply understanding the science of vaccines.

[mindrust]

A year or two ago these vaccine passports were mandatory. The Schengen zone cancelled it more a year ago I believe, The US was the only country still demanding it and I learned that they too quit asking it. See? It used to be the worldwide emergency, and now they pretend like it never happened.

Didn't take the jab, gave zero fucks and now I can freely travel again.

Millions of people took the jab which they don't know anything about and they'll have to live with that. R.i.p.

[cryptosize]

This didn't age well...

https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-goes-into-liver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/

A press release quoting this moron is hardly conclusive proof of anything.

Regardless, let's take a look at the study itself. It shows that reverse transcription happens (in unstable cells in a Petri dish), which we already knew. It does not show the vaccine changing our DNA.

Here are what the authors of the study say about it:

This study does not investigate whether the Pfizer vaccine alters our genome.

There is no reason for anyone to change their decision to take the vaccine based on this study.

I'm genuinely disappointed when I see Bitcoiners blindly trusting governments and Big Pharma.

You know very well from our conversations on other topics, such as about CBDCs, that I do not trust the government one bit. Getting vaccinated has nothing to do with trusting the government, however, but simply understanding the science of vaccines.

Let's just say I'm not going to trust any closed-source mRNA program (because that's what the Pfizer/Moderna vaccine is).

You trust Bitcoin (and maybe Linux too) for a reason: because it's open-source and millions of eyes can analyze the code. Right?

So why would you trust to inject a closed-source program into your body?

I don't install closed source *.exe from shady sources on my PC, despite the fact I can throw away my PC to the garbage bin and buy a new one. Will I be able to buy a new body if I experience vaccine side effects?

Think about it for a second... ever wondered why Pfizer/Moderna don't release the source code to the public?

[tvbcof]

This didn't age well...

https://en.protothema.gr/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-goes-into-liver-and-changes-into-dna-swedish-study-finds/

A press release quoting this moron is hardly conclusive proof of anything.

Regardless, let's take a look at the study itself. It shows that reverse transcription happens (in unstable cells in a Petri dish), which we already knew. It does not show the vaccine changing our DNA.

Reverse transcription is, by definition, 'changing DNA'.  The study was performed on HEK liver cells which are human.

The 'which we already knew' is especially comical in light of the fact that you argued vociferously that it as beyond a shadow of a doubt impossible for a long time.

Here are what the authors of the study say about it:

This study does not investigate whether the Pfizer vaccine alters our genome.

This is simply 'old school' science where one does not make claims which are outside of the confines of the investigation.  Totaly the opposite of what you 'new science' people seem to consider appropriate if not in fact the holy mission of your efforts.  I would be surprised if you are not by some relatively direct path a disciple of the creep-show led by Amazing Randi.  I ran across these degenerates in research on vaccines and pseudo-science long before the coviads scamdemic.

There is no reason for anyone to change their decision to take the vaccine based on this study.

Certainly it didn't change my decision to NOT get the highly secretive experimental gene therapy heavily pushed by criminal cartels.  To anyone who knows anything about ecology it will be obvious that evolution avoided pseudouradine as a base pair component for a reason.  You have to be a special kind of stupid to deliberately transfect your cells in order to make them into any sort of long-running protein factory, and especially not ones which produce a highly toxic (and long developed as a biological weapon) spike protein.

I'm genuinely disappointed when I see Bitcoiners blindly trusting governments and Big Pharma.

You know very well from our conversations on other topics, such as about CBDCs, that I do not trust the government one bit. Getting vaccinated has nothing to do with trusting the government, however, but simply understanding the science of vaccines.

I must concede that you do have a better than average grasp of the science behind these vaccinations.  For this reason I would be willing to bet money that you did NOT let a drop of this stuff enter your own bodily tissues.  Alas, there is no way to prove to my satisfaction one way or another, and that is not ONLY because you are an anonymous 'internet doctor' who freely hands out 'medical advice' on-line completely at variance with established medical ethics required by licensing boards.  At least required until the covaids scamdemic.

I'd not be at all surprised if one of your other sock puppets was actively pumping the tide-pod challenge.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Let's just say I'm not going to trust any closed-source mRNA program (because that's what the Pfizer/Moderna vaccine is).

The mRNA sequences used in the vaccines are publicly available. For example: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/OK120841.1

The 'which we already knew' is especially comical in light of the fact that you argued vociferously that it as beyond a shadow of a doubt impossible for a long time.

Nope. Here's what I've actually said:

Yesterday:  RNA can never integrate with DNA.  Impossible.

Nice strawman. It's been known for decades that endogenous retroviruses exist, and indeed, up to 7 or 8% of the entire human genome is derived from virus RNA or DNA. The argument has always been that the vaccine does not cause reverse transcription and integration, and indeed the study you are quoting only shows that integration can happen with COVID infection, not vaccination.

So if you don't want COVID integration in to your DNA, time to get vaccinated.

To anyone who knows anything about ecology it will be obvious that evolution avoided pseudouradine as a base pair component for a reason.

To anyone who actually knows anything about biology, they will know that pseudouridine (spelt properly) is incredibly common and present in almost every organism on the planet.

Pseudouridine is the most abundant RNA modification in cellular RNA.

Also known as 5-ribosyluracil, pseudouridine is a ubiquitous constituent of structural RNA (transfer, ribosomal, small nuclear (snRNA) and small nucleolar), and present in coding RNA, across the three phylogenetic domains of life and was the first discovered.

[cryptosize]

Welp:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5481890.msg63511970#msg63511970

[DeathAngel]

I’m glad we are free of all this nonsense now, it didn’t make any sense why the world was so strict in enforcement around the virus. The death toll vs infection rate was miniscule. The heavy handed approach by governments was not warranted. I am glad we are free to live our lives now.

[mrust_mobile]

I’m glad we are free of all this nonsense now, it didn’t make any sense why the world was so strict in enforcement around the virus. The death toll vs infection rate was miniscule. The heavy handed approach by governments was not warranted. I am glad we are free to live our lives now.

The vaccine isn't mandatory anymore but they will come up with something else. "Green new deal" is also part of it. They haven't given up on the electric vehicles for example but hopefully they soon will...

Ford Motor's electric vehicle sales are running out of juice as the company plans to slash production of its all-electric F-150 Lightning in April "to achieve the optimal balance of production, sales growth and profitability."

Beginning on April 1, approximately 1,400 employees will be impacted at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center in Dearborn, Michigan, Ford wrote in a statement on Friday.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ford-prepares-cut-f-150-lightning-electric-truck-production

The consumers see through the EV scam. A petro powered vehicle which was built 20-30 years ago has a better resale value than a 5 year old EV.

[tvbcof]

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Nice strawman. It's been known for decades that endogenous retroviruses exist, and indeed, up to 7 or 8% of the entire human genome is derived from virus RNA or DNA. The argument has always been that the vaccine does not cause reverse transcription and integration, and indeed the study you are quoting only shows that integration can happen with COVID infection, not vaccination.

So if you don't want COVID integration in to your DNA, time to get vaccinated.

"The Lund University study, titled Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line"  You arguing that the scientists fucked up and got a little covid into their petri dishes?  We all know what pretzel the pharma/gates funded 'fact checkers'  came up with to try to cover for this one, or can easily find it since these 'fact checks' are the only thing allowed on the major search engines these day.

To anyone who knows anything about ecology it will be obvious that evolution avoided pseudouradine as a base pair component for a reason.

To anyone who actually knows anything about biology, they will know that pseudouridine (spelt properly) is incredibly common and present in almost every organism on the planet.

Pseudouridine is the most abundant RNA modification in cellular RNA.

Also known as 5-ribosyluracil, pseudouridine is a ubiquitous constituent of structural RNA (transfer, ribosomal, small nuclear (snRNA) and small nucleolar), and present in coding RNA, across the three phylogenetic domains of life and was the first discovered.

Jiggering with it (and derivitives) got war criminals Kariko and notorious liar Weissman a Nobel price.  Maybe you should volunteer with the Nobel committee to help them understand that these two criminals don't deserve the prize because the dindoo-nuffin.

  https://maloneinstitute.org/blog/pseudouridine-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care

[Bushdark]

I’m glad we are free of all this nonsense now, it didn’t make any sense why the world was so strict in enforcement around the virus. The death toll vs infection rate was miniscule. The heavy handed approach by governments was not warranted. I am glad we are free to live our lives now.

The COVID 19 was a big disaster to the world and the government was able to use this to make people go for the vaccine or else they would not be allowed to travel. The restrictions was too much for an ordinary man especially those of us that was not interested taking the vaccine. We thank the Lord that those time are now gone. I almost took the vaccine because I had to travel and it is one of the requirements that was necessary for every travellers.