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March 03, 2021, 09:29:32 AM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

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March 03, 2021, 10:59:50 AM
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Technically, those at the top can solve the poverty but why would they do it? Solving poverty means that they can't find desperate people that will do their bidding so they can stay at the top. I agree that it is possible but we have to be able to convince those at the top that they will benefit more if there isn't poverty, but I know that it will be impossible because once the people at the poverty line is saved, the middle class will not have anything to be fearful because I believe that the rich put the poor people so the middle class are put in their place protecting what they currently from being stolen by the poor.

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March 03, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs, and in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.

To keep inflation out, we must measure how much money they need to live well.

I believe that the only way to eradicate poverty is education. All other methods will be avoided by the rich.

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March 03, 2021, 11:50:36 AM
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If you take the list of poor nations around the world, there is one factor that is common for all of them. Countries having the highest poverty levels also have a very high population growth rate. Right now the human population stands at 7.5 billion. The planet can't support this much human population, since the natural resources are quite limited. Humans have encroached almost 80% of the surface area, and still because of the ever increasing population it is not possible to produce enough resources to keep everyone above poverty.

Take the case of countries such as Bangladesh and Egypt. These countries have more than a thousand people per square kilometer of inhabitable land. And despite this, the population is growing at such an alarming rate. Modern technology can only increase the crop productivity by a certain amount. The population is growing even faster. If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.
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March 03, 2021, 12:21:26 PM
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Poverty cannot be eliminated completely,but it can be reduced significantly.
There's no easy solution for this.It's more like a mix of government policies in education,agriculture,stimulating the private sector to create more jobs,etc.
Third world countries are in a "poverty trap",which means that there is plenty of young population and not enough funds for the education systems.Rich countries will have to help poor countries to get thru the "poverty trap".



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March 03, 2021, 12:24:30 PM
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You mean a perfect world?  Grin
I don't think that will happen even in 100 years from now.

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Greed. When there is greed, there will always be someone they should step unto just to get what they want.
Envy. It can kill a person. Literally.
I guess you know what the other sins are. As long as that exists then there will always be poor people. Lazy or not.

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March 03, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs
$10 an hour this is okay and  people can work around that but these people don't fall in the poverty category AFAIK because they can afford some basic needs.



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 in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.
No one can live on that amount knowing very well we have needs for a list of basic needs like education, health, food etc which if broken down this perception that other countries can survive on this I don't think its true, the prices of commodities does go up almost every year especially in times like these where most economies have stalled because of the pandemic, I don't think this is enough! What happens when this 100 is done...?

But my thoughts if poverty can end, well  I don't think so, corruption, bad governance, injustices and a list of other reasons lead to poverty  and knowing very well man can easily be corrupted I don't think this can end.
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March 03, 2021, 12:32:56 PM
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Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent with the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage with the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

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March 03, 2021, 01:28:54 PM
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The answer is yes, it can. The world can be without poverty. But unfortunately, there is no perfect world because there will be a balance for all things, including poverty and rich. If that is not balanced, the world will look no interesting anymore because everything will be the same, and there is no beauty for us to live in this world. But I do not say that poverty and rich is beauty because that is a choice for human. If they can work hard in anything, they will get something, whether bad or good. So poverty or rich will depend on your point of view.

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March 03, 2021, 01:42:30 PM
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Let's assume governments standard measure of people below poverty line as the poor people you are talking.

Now we can find why those people are still poor after working hard just because they weren't given enough chances, enough salary for their work, corrupted leader sucks the welfare of those people and keep all the money into their bank account.

IMO, it is not possible to give everyone what they need with the current political system we have, maybe in future it will be possible if leaders become less and independent.
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March 03, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

If this thing happens then probably life will become unworthy and people will have the same status in life.

The reason why the world is moving is that for each and every one of us to achieve something, to exit poverty.

If you think about all of us being rich and we can buy all of the things that we want then what is the sense of earning money?

What is the sense of working overtime just to have food on our plate?

People are enjoying to have a normal life rather than having so much money but his life is boring.

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March 03, 2021, 02:14:06 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

If this thing happens then probably life will become unworthy and people will have the same status in life.


Not Poor isnt same as being rich. By the meaning,
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Poor. having little or no money, goods, or other means of support.

So, its possible in the future no poor people anymore, its when all of the people have their own home and also can feed themself.

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March 03, 2021, 02:18:23 PM
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People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.

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March 03, 2021, 02:26:08 PM
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I should say that we're not born in the same status of living. There are people who were born having a golden/silver spoon and whilst many were born normally having their parents living from paycheck to paycheck.

There is a saying from Bill Gates about being born poor and dying poor and it has the point about how we will live our lives and get out of the rat race.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There is but as you have figured it out, you can't push lazy people to work to make their lives better.


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March 03, 2021, 02:46:13 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs, and in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.

To keep inflation out, we must measure how much money they need to live well.

I believe that the only way to eradicate poverty is education. All other methods will be avoided by the rich.
Education isn't the way to eradicate poverty, even if all the humans on this earth are well educated there will always be workers working for bosses and waking up every morning to get to your job and getting paid in whatever you can call it, education system is corrupt anyways, go to school and start working for the government is nonsense

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March 03, 2021, 02:54:33 PM
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Nope there will always be a hierarchy in our society as that is how the economy works. Even if you give all people jobs and raise the minimum wage or just increase the wage in general the supply and demand, and inflation will always adjust to this thus the ones who are receiving the benefits will only experience a short and temporary improvement in their state of life. Poverty is something that can't be eliminated and the ones at the top and running the world is making it happen, as long as this system exists nobody can eliminate poverty.

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March 03, 2021, 02:55:31 PM
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There will be imbalance, If everyone is rich who is going to do the dirty works? It doesn't make any sense, it's why I believe that we can't be all rich, not everyone is going to make it in this world, there is no cause not to try but what will be will be in the end, rich and the poor creates balance in the world, unfortunately it's just the only way to make this going smoothly
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March 03, 2021, 02:56:04 PM
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People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.
It still depends, in my country there are hardworking people that can dig the ground and tunnels for money, I can't do that shit but guess what? These people are still poor, the payment they get isn't fit for the work done, hardworking and still remain poor is highly possible in some countries

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March 03, 2021, 02:57:13 PM
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If you take the list of poor nations around the world, there is one factor that is common for all of them. Countries having the highest poverty levels also have a very high population growth rate. Right now the human population stands at 7.5 billion. The planet can't support this much human population, since the natural resources are quite limited. Humans have encroached almost 80% of the surface area, and still because of the ever increasing population it is not possible to produce enough resources to keep everyone above poverty.

The real question would be how much land is used by the extremely rich versus the poor? If someone has a house of 5000 square meters, and a garden that is at least 10 times as much (and we know that the rich like to have much larger estates), then the problem is not that the land is occupied by people, but that it is unfairly distributed. For an example, just look at this article -> The world's biggest private landowners

Furthermore, there is enough food and water to feed all the inhabitants of the planet - but the rich and the less rich throw away huge amounts of food, while on the other hand almost half of the world's population does not have enough food or even dies of hunger. For example, the US is the country that throws the most food in the world (40 million tons per year) and have about 37 million (slightly less than 10% of the population) who do not have enough food (11 million children). What a paradox for the greatest democracy in the world -> Food Waste in America in 2021

If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.

This is definitely something that needs to be worked on, and it is up to the governments of those countries to pass some guidelines or even laws on birth control. But this is not easy to achieve even in countries like China, which introduced such a measure in 1979 and lasted until 2015, and it is estimated that the end result is about 400 million fewer births in that period.

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March 03, 2021, 03:16:48 PM
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Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent on the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage of the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

There isn't a perfect life even during the old times. If we're all rich, we'll never persevere and work hard just like most of us do. There is poverty for us to work hard and reach our goals. We could only eliminate poverty if all people would know how to take opportunities and persevere to change their lives instead of relying on the government.
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