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Title: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 09:29:32 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Lorence.xD on March 03, 2021, 10:59:50 AM
Technically, those at the top can solve the poverty but why would they do it? Solving poverty means that they can't find desperate people that will do their bidding so they can stay at the top. I agree that it is possible but we have to be able to convince those at the top that they will benefit more if there isn't poverty, but I know that it will be impossible because once the people at the poverty line is saved, the middle class will not have anything to be fearful because I believe that the rich put the poor people so the middle class are put in their place protecting what they currently from being stolen by the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: hugeblack on March 03, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs, and in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.

To keep inflation out, we must measure how much money they need to live well.

I believe that the only way to eradicate poverty is education. All other methods will be avoided by the rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 03, 2021, 11:50:36 AM
If you take the list of poor nations around the world, there is one factor that is common for all of them. Countries having the highest poverty levels also have a very high population growth rate. Right now the human population stands at 7.5 billion. The planet can't support this much human population, since the natural resources are quite limited. Humans have encroached almost 80% of the surface area, and still because of the ever increasing population it is not possible to produce enough resources to keep everyone above poverty.

Take the case of countries such as Bangladesh and Egypt. These countries have more than a thousand people per square kilometer of inhabitable land. And despite this, the population is growing at such an alarming rate. Modern technology can only increase the crop productivity by a certain amount. The population is growing even faster. If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: davis196 on March 03, 2021, 12:21:26 PM
Poverty cannot be eliminated completely,but it can be reduced significantly.
There's no easy solution for this.It's more like a mix of government policies in education,agriculture,stimulating the private sector to create more jobs,etc.
Third world countries are in a "poverty trap",which means that there is plenty of young population and not enough funds for the education systems.Rich countries will have to help poor countries to get thru the "poverty trap".




Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: danherbias07 on March 03, 2021, 12:24:30 PM
You mean a perfect world?  ;D
I don't think that will happen even in 100 years from now.

7 deadly sins.
Greed. When there is greed, there will always be someone they should step unto just to get what they want.
Envy. It can kill a person. Literally.
I guess you know what the other sins are. As long as that exists then there will always be poor people. Lazy or not.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: roosbit on March 03, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs
$10 an hour this is okay and  people can work around that but these people don't fall in the poverty category AFAIK because they can afford some basic needs.



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 in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.
No one can live on that amount knowing very well we have needs for a list of basic needs like education, health, food etc which if broken down this perception that other countries can survive on this I don't think its true, the prices of commodities does go up almost every year especially in times like these where most economies have stalled because of the pandemic, I don't think this is enough! What happens when this 100 is done...?

But my thoughts if poverty can end, well  I don't think so, corruption, bad governance, injustices and a list of other reasons lead to poverty  and knowing very well man can easily be corrupted I don't think this can end.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: goaldigger on March 03, 2021, 12:32:56 PM
Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent with the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage with the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: michellee on March 03, 2021, 01:28:54 PM
The answer is yes, it can. The world can be without poverty. But unfortunately, there is no perfect world because there will be a balance for all things, including poverty and rich. If that is not balanced, the world will look no interesting anymore because everything will be the same, and there is no beauty for us to live in this world. But I do not say that poverty and rich is beauty because that is a choice for human. If they can work hard in anything, they will get something, whether bad or good. So poverty or rich will depend on your point of view.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: mersal on March 03, 2021, 01:42:30 PM
Let's assume governments standard measure of people below poverty line as the poor people you are talking.

Now we can find why those people are still poor after working hard just because they weren't given enough chances, enough salary for their work, corrupted leader sucks the welfare of those people and keep all the money into their bank account.

IMO, it is not possible to give everyone what they need with the current political system we have, maybe in future it will be possible if leaders become less and independent.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AniviaBtc on March 03, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

If this thing happens then probably life will become unworthy and people will have the same status in life.

The reason why the world is moving is that for each and every one of us to achieve something, to exit poverty.

If you think about all of us being rich and we can buy all of the things that we want then what is the sense of earning money?

What is the sense of working overtime just to have food on our plate?

People are enjoying to have a normal life rather than having so much money but his life is boring.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Flowzer on March 03, 2021, 02:14:06 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

If this thing happens then probably life will become unworthy and people will have the same status in life.


Not Poor isnt same as being rich. By the meaning,
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Poor. having little or no money, goods, or other means of support.

So, its possible in the future no poor people anymore, its when all of the people have their own home and also can feed themself.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TopTort777 on March 03, 2021, 02:18:23 PM
People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: sunsilk on March 03, 2021, 02:26:08 PM
I should say that we're not born in the same status of living. There are people who were born having a golden/silver spoon and whilst many were born normally having their parents living from paycheck to paycheck.

There is a saying from Bill Gates about being born poor and dying poor and it has the point about how we will live our lives and get out of the rat race.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There is but as you have figured it out, you can't push lazy people to work to make their lives better.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TheMimic1 on March 03, 2021, 02:46:13 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
You see it wrongly, we must define what "poverty" mean and because poverty is a general word, we must define it as standard for poverty.
The standard of poverty varies between countries. In some countries, getting $ 10 an hour may not be enough to cover your needs, and in other countries, $ 100 is enough for the minimum life.

To keep inflation out, we must measure how much money they need to live well.

I believe that the only way to eradicate poverty is education. All other methods will be avoided by the rich.
Education isn't the way to eradicate poverty, even if all the humans on this earth are well educated there will always be workers working for bosses and waking up every morning to get to your job and getting paid in whatever you can call it, education system is corrupt anyways, go to school and start working for the government is nonsense


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Theb on March 03, 2021, 02:54:33 PM
Nope there will always be a hierarchy in our society as that is how the economy works. Even if you give all people jobs and raise the minimum wage or just increase the wage in general the supply and demand, and inflation will always adjust to this thus the ones who are receiving the benefits will only experience a short and temporary improvement in their state of life. Poverty is something that can't be eliminated and the ones at the top and running the world is making it happen, as long as this system exists nobody can eliminate poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BitKongy on March 03, 2021, 02:55:31 PM
There will be imbalance, If everyone is rich who is going to do the dirty works? It doesn't make any sense, it's why I believe that we can't be all rich, not everyone is going to make it in this world, there is no cause not to try but what will be will be in the end, rich and the poor creates balance in the world, unfortunately it's just the only way to make this going smoothly


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TheMimic1 on March 03, 2021, 02:56:04 PM
People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.
It still depends, in my country there are hardworking people that can dig the ground and tunnels for money, I can't do that shit but guess what? These people are still poor, the payment they get isn't fit for the work done, hardworking and still remain poor is highly possible in some countries


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Lucius on March 03, 2021, 02:57:13 PM
If you take the list of poor nations around the world, there is one factor that is common for all of them. Countries having the highest poverty levels also have a very high population growth rate. Right now the human population stands at 7.5 billion. The planet can't support this much human population, since the natural resources are quite limited. Humans have encroached almost 80% of the surface area, and still because of the ever increasing population it is not possible to produce enough resources to keep everyone above poverty.

The real question would be how much land is used by the extremely rich versus the poor? If someone has a house of 5000 square meters, and a garden that is at least 10 times as much (and we know that the rich like to have much larger estates), then the problem is not that the land is occupied by people, but that it is unfairly distributed. For an example, just look at this article -> The world's biggest private landowners (https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/70168/the-worlds-biggest-private-landowners)

Furthermore, there is enough food and water to feed all the inhabitants of the planet - but the rich and the less rich throw away huge amounts of food, while on the other hand almost half of the world's population does not have enough food or even dies of hunger. For example, the US is the country that throws the most food in the world (40 million tons per year) and have about 37 million (slightly less than 10% of the population) who do not have enough food (11 million children). What a paradox for the greatest democracy in the world -> Food Waste in America in 2021 (https://www.rts.com/resources/guides/food-waste-america/)

If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.

This is definitely something that needs to be worked on, and it is up to the governments of those countries to pass some guidelines or even laws on birth control. But this is not easy to achieve even in countries like China, which introduced such a measure in 1979 and lasted until 2015, and it is estimated that the end result is about 400 million fewer births in that period.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Cling18 on March 03, 2021, 03:16:48 PM
Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent on the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage of the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

There isn't a perfect life even during the old times. If we're all rich, we'll never persevere and work hard just like most of us do. There is poverty for us to work hard and reach our goals. We could only eliminate poverty if all people would know how to take opportunities and persevere to change their lives instead of relying on the government.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: target on March 03, 2021, 03:17:03 PM
The rich make money out of the poor, they own TV stations that can manipulate the minds of the poor to vote for the politicians they want to win. The rich owns companies that the poor are working to put food on the table. If they allow these poor people to be educated and become rich at some point, they will start to create a company of their own, probably better than the ones owned by the rich. They don't want that.  

Same for the poor countries. They want the poor countries to stay poor otherwise it can build an army of its own to protect its people like Russia and China that can stand on its own. They want the middle east countries to stay poor until they can't mine their own oil become rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Snappycoco on March 03, 2021, 03:52:03 PM
I don't think so. Everything should be in balance. There's poor, there's rich and there's at the middle. All these sectors have its own use and it has its purposes. If all of us are rich then nobody will ever pick up your garbage and put it in dump sites.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ucy on March 03, 2021, 03:56:43 PM
I think what people should focus more on is the needy... Not every poor person is in need of money, food (and things like that), and there are lots of people that seem rich but are needy.
You could build a society that have lots of poor people..but  no one lacks anything and everyone is contented.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Poker Player on March 03, 2021, 04:05:27 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

To be honest, man, I think what you have writte  is quite crappy but I'm going to give you my stance on the rich/poor bullshit.

There will probably never be a world without any poor because poor is a relative concept: it means "poorer than...".

The problem with the discourse that the rich are richer and all that crap is that it is counted to justify going towards a communist regime that is precisely a specialist in creating millions of poor people. And not like today's poor in developed countries, who eat several times a day, have cell phones, etc. but like people who die of hunger and misery. The only way to equalize people is from below: make them all equally poor.

If you leave room for initiative, effort and talent you will have a society of rich and poor, but where the poor will live much better than in "egalitarian" societies where everyone starves equally.




Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: palle11 on March 03, 2021, 04:30:21 PM
Nobody like being poor. Some say poverty is a disease. This is so because being poor you can't take care of all your needs, you rely on people for help all the time which can make people to avoid you , this is why many labour legally and illegally to leave the poverty line.

About being poor, some people are lazy to least labour to feed themselves and rely on others. They make too much of excuse while some are physically challenged but hussle to leave poverty line.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ven7net on March 03, 2021, 04:30:25 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Probably such a system exists when every person in the world will not be poor and this may be when there is no money in the world and people will not do work for the sake of money. This is undoubtedly a utopia and such a system is not suitable for our time. Unfortunately, our generation thinks only in terms of money and this is not our fault, this system was simply imposed on us. So in our time in our world there will always be poor and we cannot get rid of this, at least in the near future.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Hydrogen on March 03, 2021, 10:39:00 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?



This topic contrasts with ancient times when food productivity was dismally low. Sacrificing children to deities was commonly considered to be more humane than starvation. One reason infanticide and human sacrifice were so widely practiced in the distant past. Advancing technology multiplies human productivity. Making it possible to feed exponentially more people. Sustaining our massive population expansion, which would be impossible to support without modern technology to produce sufficient food. If technology and science continue to progress, productivity could theoretically increase to a point where poverty is eventually eliminated.

One scenario where poverty is eliminated is portrayed in star trek. They have "replicators" mounted on the walls of ships which can instantly produce food, equipment and machinery. Its one analogy for science boosting productivity to levels where no one lacks material goods, and poverty might be eliminated.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: CarnagexD on March 03, 2021, 10:51:43 PM
The world can live without people dying of hunger, that is one thing that is true. Jobs are something the world can't live out of however, so in this case, if everyone is given the chance to formal education, and at the same time job opportunities and livable wage, poverty can be eradicated while maintaining the current hierarchy of things, unfortunately the upper echelons are blinded by greed and would do anything in their ability to ensure they hoard all the money in the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Renampun on March 03, 2021, 11:11:32 PM
will never can...
poor or rich is not destiny but a mindset. If you have an old-fashioned mindset, are afraid of risky things, and are lazy then you will not be rich even if you are given money for your capital. just look around you, are there lazy people who are rich?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oceat on March 03, 2021, 11:58:00 PM
I think what people should focus more on is the needy... Not every poor person is in need of money, food (and things like that), and there are lots of people that seem rich but are needy.
You could build a society that have lots of poor people..but  no one lacks anything and everyone is contented.
Only if laziness doesn't exist among to us everyone can live happily ever after but looking back at the past where the civilization is different than today. I think in terms of hard work I preferred the past but that's just it because without laws we are all barbaric and that wouldn't lead us to a future what we are today. At least survival of the fittest today is not about killing each other.

I think the only difference from the past and today is that we are all civilized and there's a new culture differences from the past. But we still can't deny that having a job today is a new kind of slavery but at least we still have a chance to make a difference and become rich.

But still there are people among us who still are needy due to some circumstances in life such as having gone ill, disasters and calamity and many more that makes their life turn back again to zero and that's the time they really needs help.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Xinarae* on March 04, 2021, 04:20:11 AM
A world without poverty is not possible if the world is far ahead in terms of technology there is a lot of inequality between the rich and the poor. Improvement is not possible if inequality cannot be eliminated it is possible to reduce poverty if the rich people of the society help the poor but there is no balance between them most of the people in the society live below the poverty line no government cooperation reaches here. They are deprived in all respects so it will take a long time to solve the problem of the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ivankoh on March 04, 2021, 06:22:25 AM
There will be imbalance, If everyone is rich who is going to do the dirty works? It doesn't make any sense, it's why I believe that we can't be all rich, not everyone is going to make it in this world, there is no cause not to try but what will be will be in the end, rich and the poor creates balance in the world, unfortunately it's just the only way to make this going smoothly
I think that the contemporary world and the future will still exist a gap between rich and poor.  Some countries are aiming at hunger eradication, poverty reduction, unemployment reduction ... according to the policy of the annual congress and the National Assembly.  Despite the results, the distinction between developing countries is somewhat slower.  The results are reported annually, but in fact, it is difficult to strike a balance between the rich and the poor.  Even covid 19 has made the ratio and the rich and poor space become more disparate.  That is also the problem where inflation is soaring and the economy slows down.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 04, 2021, 06:27:03 AM
Being poor is okay, but being under poverty line is not, you are correct, that there can never be a situation where no one is "poor" because money in this world gets divided and it's based on a lots of factors about how it gets distributed and how rich people make money. But we can surely move towards a world where no one is in poverty, where everyone gets a full day meal without starving, no matter if they have a luxurious car or not. For that we need more resources and land which we can achieve by using technology as tool!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: shoreno on March 04, 2021, 06:39:53 AM
if this is possible it already happened before but no because up until now we can see that there are so many poors in each and every country that we live and i think this cant be change because this is our creator wants .

 i want to be clear that not all can be change but there would be few numbers that can change thier fate thru hardwork and faith to god because ive seen enough proofs . sometimes it has something to do with laziness and how good or how bad the countries government


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sebas.tian on March 04, 2021, 06:56:09 AM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
No, there is no way people can live rich without poor people among them. The rich never get  tired of investment in an project but poor people see good project as a scam project because they are not ready to help their self to become rich. During the pandemic that collapsed the world economy, really show how poor people will continue to be poor because they don't save for future.
 There are still some countries in the world who don't legalized cryptocurrencies because they lack knowledge of cryptocurrency so such country, poor people will always live with the richest.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Mauser on March 04, 2021, 07:28:13 AM


Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?


In my opinion "poor" or "rich" are relative terms which will make it very hard to get rig of them in the future. If you would ask if we could make sure no one in starving anymore, or everybody will have access to some decent living facitilies, I would definitely say Yes. Our technology advancements made it possible to take care of a lot of more people than in the past. But if we would distribute all the money in the world fairly to everybody, so nobody would be rich or poor, than it might work out for a few years. Long term however I would expect to money accumulate again with a few rich people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Trinx01 on March 04, 2021, 07:56:14 AM
It would be impossible to live the world without poverty, the life is balance if there is at the top then there is also at the bottom, they cannot be called superior if all people are the same, those people having fortunate life are those who spent time learning and applying it in a real-life to earn money, most of the time as what I have noticed those people with good knowledge, skills, techniques, and abilities are those who can make their lives better than those people who don't even do something or put some efforts to make their lives change. It is all up to us if we are going to make our lives better or not.

While still young, we should spend our times in a hard day such as working a hard time, learning knowledge, and many more because as time goes by as we get older we couldn't do it anymore and that is why some people stay at being poor because, at their young age, they don't even fulfill their life with good and a great experience.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MCobian on March 04, 2021, 11:38:54 AM
Until whenever poverty will always exist, because life does need a balance. So sometimes life has a cycle, if there is a poor person there is a possibility
that in the future that person will become rich. Likewise, if there are rich people,  there is a possibility that in the future they will become poor.
So, from childhood until now, I have gone through various life cycles and have experienced being rich and poor. So my conclusion is that
the world is impossible without poor people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Taskford on March 04, 2021, 12:05:13 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

In my opinion this all rich though's will never be happen since remember there are greedy people who want to have powers so for this some of them doesn't want to have equal wealth since no one will listen to the leaders of people have capabilities to build up theirselves that's why there's corruption since they want to control people and the economy.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Moyna Akter on March 04, 2021, 12:24:41 PM
It is not possible to completely eradicate poverty from the social, state and the world, but it is possible to reduce its rate. Poverty cannot be fully determined due to global corruption, violence, inequality between rich and poor, etc. Moreover, due to the capitalist social system, most of the resources in the modern world have been handed over to a handful of people, while a large number of people are suffering from poverty. So it can be said that it is possible to reduce humidity poverty through the development of social system and state measures but it is possible to eradicate it completely.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Altcoinsintel on March 04, 2021, 12:32:32 PM
No, it can't. The reason is the capitalist economic system has poverty as a feature. It was supposed that socialism/communism would eradicate poverty, however the mistakes made and the enforcement of this system lead to even increased poverty.  What matters most since the first industrial revolution is energy. The price of it, that can come from coal, oil, nuclear power, and lately from solar and wind power. Then it is the distribution of wealth and the commitment of the private sector to increase the wealth of our societies. A successful corporation is one that strives to increase the wealth of the many. Sadly the goals of the people behind the scenes are to be in a godlike state and enjoy having more power. This is a game for most of them and it pitties me that the intelligence of some people is not consistent with the power and wealth they acquired. Perhaps if a power source close to being infinite is developed it could eradicate poverty. There is cold fusion research that will probably take decades, but it is a hope.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TopTort777 on March 04, 2021, 02:28:07 PM
Government wont help poor people, they will support them, or do just a vision of support. But never take care. Just imagine how much government should invest in a poor man and wait till they get back that as taxes ? You how government will take care of hunger and poverty? Let hungry people eat poor people. Win=win situation.

How to fight poverty? What is the line, below which person is poor? How to even set this line, when people always adopt to situation? What to do with people that lives below this line, but their life suits them? Force them to be richer?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Warless on March 04, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I think you are focusing the question wrong.

The one that gives you the answer you are looking for is:

Can the human being live without any type of money or exchange value?

Barter.

Would society be happy in a lifestyle flooded with bartering?



Money hurt to humans,
You cannot remove greed, so you cannot remove the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jostorres on March 04, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
I don't think so. Everything should be in balance. There's poor, there's rich and there's at the middle. All these sectors have its own use and it has its purposes. If all of us are rich then nobody will ever pick up your garbage and put it in dump sites.
Why do you need people to put garbage in the bin if the person throwing it on street is careful and responsible enough to put it in the right place? Just because someone else wants to avoid his basic responsibilities, the other person has to do it. If robbers don't exist, we don't need police. As simple as that.

I think what people should focus more on is the needy... Not every poor person is in need of money, food (and things like that), and there are lots of people that seem rich but are needy.
You could build a society that have lots of poor people..but  no one lacks anything and everyone is contented.
If no one lacks anything then why even calling them poor. I think calling them middle class is safe because someone who has all his basic needs covered can't be termed as poor.

Building such a society is near impossible because there will some people who need more money while there are others who only think about today and don't have a vision for future, you can't force them to work and if they don't work they shouldn't get paid which ultimately brings things back to where we are.

Maybe getting enough work such that anyone who wants can easily get a job, is the ideal scenario.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on March 04, 2021, 04:10:50 PM
Poverty is the accepted concept all over the world. Even in high GDP country like China facing the issue of poverty.The government should take care of the people in the poverty line.The government should give atleast the basic need to the people who suffering from poverty.
- Except for providing basic needs to the poor, governments need additional economic financing, enabling them to develop more knowledge and eradicate poverty that has long existed for them but the fact that I have seen is that some government employees have gouged out donations and the poor continue to be poor. And not only for these employees, but also the poor are also at fault when they get too involved in addiction and gambling issues, poverty eradication is too difficult when human psychology is unpredictable


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: wxa7115 on March 04, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think it is possible, but we need to be direct, there is not going to be an instance in which everyone has the same amount of material possessions, what could happen is that our production and manufacturing costs could go down so dramatically thanks to new discoveries and inventions that the floor of what we consider poverty rises up, right now there are many people that do not have enough to eat or water to drink, if our technology improves we could get to the point in which this kind of poverty is eradicated but the rich will have a lot more than the rest of us.

Now whether that world will be a nice place to live on could be argued but it is possible even with our current structure not changing, as it is known that during the last decades poverty has in fact gone down around the world and in great part is because of our technological advances.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: sniveel on March 04, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
I think not, we can reduce the number of individuals who are experiencing poverty but we cannot totally make it zero. There are lot of factors why people facing poverty, corrupt government, hierarchy from their elders and etc. There are still some places that hard to reach, that's why the people out there remains on the life they used to.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 04, 2021, 08:17:26 PM
Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Hamphser on March 04, 2021, 08:39:50 PM
Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.

Life couldnt really be perfect as others been thinking off it.There would be always those people who are on the top and to those people who are on the bottomg.

This triangle cant really be erased or simply this reality cant really be changed off but as mentioned this would be somehow be lessen up if the government and other
organizations will really be making out such step on fighting against poverty.

Everything should really be in balanced because if all people are on the rich side then no one will really working  to earn money.So thats will really give out
an imbalance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: reelstuff on March 04, 2021, 08:48:09 PM
Well the world was up until Cain and Able, after that well its been with us.  One of the things that is particularly ironic is that in order to buy BTC, on an exchange you have to present a bank account, identification, not everyone could or even can get a bank account, which to many seems hard to understand but in the US it is common for a bank to refuse someone a bank account if they do not have good credit.  (IF you think about that for a moment)  How can that be anything but yet another way to keep the poor,  (poor)  In the US those that are poor, have to pay more for automobile insurance, they have to pay more for rent, they cannot get as good of a job if they have bad or not really good credit.   These are all methods of keeping those that are poor in a constant state of remaining poor.   


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oshosondy on March 04, 2021, 09:11:09 PM
In my opinion this all rich though's will never be happen since remember there are greedy people who want to have powers so for this some of them doesn't want to have equal wealth since no one will listen to the leaders of people have capabilities to build up theirselves that's why there's corruption since they want to control people and the economy.
That is just my opinion about this too, if someone is rich, that is an evidence of someone also poor and someone that are in between, life is not equal, life is not the same, we are not exposed to the same things, we are not having the same level of intelligence. The rich also can not want the poor to be like them, even if they wish, what is happening in the community can not make such to happen. The fact is just that all fingers are not equal, some will be rich while some will not be rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ChrisPop on March 04, 2021, 10:11:50 PM
Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world. Yet, we do not have competent people to apply all the technological wonders humanity created. Through capital allocation people and governments (which are composed by people) "enforce" in a smaller or higher size their view of the world. The thing is we do not have enough wealthy people with courage and kindness. Many people go on the defensive side when they become rich enough and stop innovating. I'm not saying that is not alright, but there is a lack of people with a good, healthy vision of the world that also possess enough capital to make a meaningful change.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: CaVO32 on March 04, 2021, 10:25:24 PM
Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world. Yet, we do not have competent people to apply all the technological wonders humanity created. Through capital allocation people and governments (which are composed by people) "enforce" in a smaller or higher size their view of the world. The thing is we do not have enough wealthy people with courage and kindness. Many people go on the defensive side when they become rich enough and stop innovating. I'm not saying that is not alright, but there is a lack of people with a good, healthy vision of the world that also possess enough capital to make a meaningful change.


Unfortunately, you can only find few people sharing their wealth to the public. Most of them wanted to accumulate more and more for them. If these wealthy people will only help these poor people, we won't see them suffering from poverty. But I guess, that's how humanity is. It is designed to have rich and poor people in it. And it is how you change your own fate for the better and not relying from others to carve your own future. Sad reality but I don't think the mentality of people will change.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on March 04, 2021, 10:34:18 PM
...Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world...
...But I guess, that's how humanity is. It is designed to have rich and poor people in it. And it is how you change your own fate for the better and not relying from others to carve your own future. Sad reality but I don't think the mentality of people will change...
It is completely useless to expect universal consciousness from rich citizens, and such changes in society will have to be made by the forces of the state mechanism. In the coming decades, we will face amazing and turbulent times, while humanity, through trial and error, finds the mechanisms for the distribution of social and economic wealth without slipping into dictatorship or anarchy. Technology already allows it, but the economic and state structure does not yet allow it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: In the silence on March 05, 2021, 02:38:16 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think it's the equillibrium for the society and industry that there's still be rich, middle class, and poor people. Laziness is one of the factors that affects our daily lives to be unfunctional and losing our compassion to do what's the best for us to gain more. In the other hand, rich people still doing what's best for them to maintain their wealth and fortune.
For some poor people, they intend to break their unfortunate life by taking risks and opportunity just like how other people did before they become rich.
For me, it's inevitable that this certain factors will be changed for the near future since we can't handle other people from their decisions and their lifestyle.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 05, 2021, 03:22:17 AM
IMO, religion is the most important factor that contributes to the growing poverty levels. Most of those who attend religious congregations are extremely poor, and they need to provide 10% or 20% of their net income to the religious body on a regular basis. On top of this, there are certain taboos and restrictions associated with the religions, which further reduces the income received by these people. And most importantly, religious bodies are against family planning. In my country, it is not rare for the ultra-religious to have 10-12 children each, which adds to the poverty issues.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: coin-investor on March 05, 2021, 04:15:24 AM


I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

It's not possible, we can never eradicate poor people and poor living, but there is a place where everybody is poor and only a few are rich and that is North Korea, we can never be equal to each other, some countries try to implement equality and they failed miserably because we are never created equally, so can never have equally, we are human and we see the weakness and strength of others, and wants to be powerful and have more than the others. 
   


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 05, 2021, 07:33:16 AM
The world can  only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: zanezane on March 05, 2021, 07:44:49 AM
The world can  only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.
That could work but we have to fight the ingrained mentality that we need more than others that has been rooted on many countries for millennia. And it will be a difficult thing especially now that we are living in a quasi-dystopian society that is bombarded by ads about owning this and that and those thing will only perpetuate the idea that you need to own more than your neighbors. If we could destroy that mentality then maybe we can see a future where poverty is not a thing.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on March 05, 2021, 08:43:46 AM
A world where there is no poverty is a world where people could get what they want out of thin air, even if there's universal basic income there'll be some people who always gonna spend all their money for the most useless things.
Poverty is not only state of financial condition but also state of mentality, in short it's quite impossible. Not to mention there always some people who want to fulfil their greedines through any shady means and could create poverty again.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Coinsfera on March 05, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.
I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There always be poverty in every country. You said laziness can be the problem and the reasons for laziness are worth mentioning. Some people are poor and do not have the motivation to do anything and they become lazy. Or they do not think that they can be rich someday in the future. There are many social problems with poor people. Each of them needs to be directed separately. The rich people are too much rich and the poor are too poor. Medium class is fading away in between. Being rich in monetary terms requires acting on it. Work on yourself, nowadays the most valuable thing is the knowledge you possess. If you are professional then you can be anyone you want to be.
I think that poor will always be in capitalism.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Taskford on March 05, 2021, 11:11:34 AM


I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

It's not possible, we can never eradicate poor people and poor living, but there is a place where everybody is poor and only a few are rich and that is North Korea, we can never be equal to each other, some countries try to implement equality and they failed miserably because we are never created equally, so can never have equally, we are human and we see the weakness and strength of others, and wants to be powerful and have more than the others.  
  

Because corruption is still there that's why we can achieve that equality, and even if the economy of certain country is so strong still they are not save from poverty since look at the american country they are 1st world and strong nation but still their are citizens cannot able to put foods in their tables and homeless people are still in street.

Also North Korea is in the hands of dictator so this unbalance situation is so normal especially there government doesn't give any good freedom to their citizens.

Maybe this world without poverty is just fantasy since in reality we cannot achieve that since every people have different mindset towards certain conditions.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 05, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.
Unfortunately this will not happen anymore.
Base on https://www.worldometers.info/, as of today there are approx. 300k babies that are being born and 100k people are dying. That is a ratio of 3:1 (birth to death ratio). This is happening everyday. Overpopulation will be the biggest problem of the world in the next decades and stopping it will be hard or at least impossible.

Now to answer the question, you want the world to be like a Utopia right?? Even in my dreams, that will not happen :).

Sadly, in our cruel world there will be people who are rich and people who are poor. Every people have many ways for them not to be poor but its them who aren't doing it that is why they stay as poor. The rich are getting richer everyday, the middle will stay at middle and the poor will be poorer and that is the reality. Poverty is the biggest virus that our world has for a long time already and stopping it is almost impossible. Poverty virus is more contagious than the current virus we are facing right now. An Utopia will just happen in fairy tales but in reality, it will not happen.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on March 05, 2021, 01:11:49 PM
People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.
Still even if effort would be made, life would just really suck for someone. Being part of 1 percent really needs a luck as well.
There will always be poor and rich. Rich people would need poor people to work for them in order for their business to function as planned.
Sometimes it is a choice, but sometimes it is just what it is that people need to live through.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MiningBattalion on March 05, 2021, 02:05:24 PM
People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.
Still even if effort would be made, life would just really suck for someone. Being part of 1 percent really needs a luck as well.
There will always be poor and rich. Rich people would need poor people to work for them in order for their business to function as planned.
Sometimes it is a choice, but sometimes it is just what it is that people need to live through.
And is bitcoin the currency of the future? Or is it the payment system they’re developing?For one thing, it’s a cheap payment system. But it’s more important than that. It’s more important than that. Blockchain cryptography is all about digital transfer of ownership in a completely transparent and public way. Okay, I don’t want to go into any of the math and the complexity behind it, but think of what that means.




Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 05, 2021, 05:55:24 PM
Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.

Life couldnt really be perfect as others been thinking off it.There would be always those people who are on the top and to those people who are on the bottomg.

This triangle cant really be erased or simply this reality cant really be changed off but as mentioned this would be somehow be lessen up if the government and other
organizations will really be making out such step on fighting against poverty.

Everything should really be in balanced because if all people are on the rich side then no one will really working  to earn money.So thats will really give out
an imbalance.
As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 05, 2021, 08:10:10 PM
As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)

Why do you think that it is always the responsibility of the rich people to help the poor? The rich people got their wealth through decades of hard work. Why should they share that wealth with someone who remains poor because he doesn't want to work? The rich doesn't owe anything to anyone. And it is the responsibility of the poor people to learn new skills and get themselves out of poverty. For how long they want to survive on handouts?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 05, 2021, 08:44:21 PM
As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)

Why do you think that it is always the responsibility of the rich people to help the poor? The rich people got their wealth through decades of hard work.
The rich people got their wealth because they were fortunate not through hard work. Do you know how many people work hard and never make a million dollars? I think the rich should help the poor because making a positive impact in someone like so ones legacy will live forever it's the best thing to do it, what's the purpose of a rich man that can waste million dollar on drink while his neighbor barely eat and it doesn't have to be when the world is facing padenmic that the rich will help the poor.
There's a phase that says "the poor man son you don't help today maybe a threat to your son after you are late"

Why should they share that wealth with someone who remains poor because he doesn't want to work? The rich doesn't owe anything to anyone. And it is the responsibility of the poor people to learn new skills and get themselves out of poverty. For how long they want to survive on handouts?
There's different between share of wealth and helping people. Besides, helping the poor will limit crime activities and people dying for no reason. Do you know how many people who have died because they can afford better medical care?
Is the responsible of the poor to learn some skills but do you know how many poor people that have the required skills and couldn't get a job cause he doesn't know the boss at the top or doesn't have year's experience?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 05, 2021, 08:58:30 PM
The world can  only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.
That could work but we have to fight the ingrained mentality that we need more than others that has been rooted on many countries for millennia. And it will be a difficult thing especially now that we are living in a quasi-dystopian society that is bombarded by ads about owning this and that and those thing will only perpetuate the idea that you need to own more than your neighbors. If we could destroy that mentality then maybe we can see a future where poverty is not a thing.
Read this text severally before I comprehend the message now, shall the mentality can't be destroyed easily because of new innovation of life living, previously people don't think or taught of poverty because not like Rich's and poverty, what really in existence is hard working and protection via unknown spirit's that attacks humans, but now people mindset is enrichment, and then country leaders were leading without enough fund's.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Hippocrypto on March 05, 2021, 10:40:33 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

That's impossible to live without people in poverty, personally I am on that situation during my teenage days because my parents undergone financial challenges. But it doesn't stop them to pursue their dreams to help us went to have good education and fulfill a better lives so we'll able to acquire better future with lesser poverty. Basically hard work should be  developed by every person, because success will come after all sacrifices.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oilacris on March 05, 2021, 10:47:35 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

That's impossible to live without people in poverty, personally I am on that situation during my teenage days because my parents undergone financial challenges. But it doesn't stop them to pursue their dreams to help us went to have good education and fulfill a better lives so we'll able to acquire better future with lesser poverty. Basically hard work should be  developed by every person, because success will come after all sacrifices.
Success will really vary on someones sacrifices in life and to those who didnt do anything about improving their lives will definitely go into the verge of poverty.

Not to underestimate these people but its up to someone who would able to build up their future.If they havent done anything in the past then you can really
expect for these kind of results.

World without poverty is something an impossible thing to had.We know that inequality would always be a common problem which cant really be resolved out.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on March 05, 2021, 10:49:38 PM
There will always be poor people in this world. I would bet if I find a case that there are no poor people in a country. But of course it will be different in each country, we cannot equate the poverty of someone in country A and poor people in country B.

Because it depends on a person who lives in which country, for example what type of poor people in developed countries will be like and will be very different from poor people living in developing countries. We can describe that poor people, for example there are 5 people, 4 people have $ 100 money while 1 person only has $ 5, we can assume that 1 person is a poor person.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: aioc on March 05, 2021, 10:55:17 PM
There was never a time and there will never be a time or a place where poverty is not existing, some of the roots of poverty are lack of opportunity, lack of education, and lack of materials or resources because every country was not created to equally, there are countries with an abundance of resources like oil, like in the middle east and some areas are dried with nothing on it, corruption is also prevalent and it robs people of their resources.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on March 05, 2021, 11:47:55 PM
There was never a time and there will never be a time or a place where poverty is not existing, some of the roots of poverty are lack of opportunity, lack of education, and lack of materials or resources because every country was not created to equally, there are countries with an abundance of resources like oil, like in the middle east and some areas are dried with nothing on it, corruption is also prevalent and it robs people of their resources.
Poverty is generally a relative concept and has different meanings in different parts of the world. It is quite one thing when you do not have access to higher education and you have difficulty climbing the social ladder, and quite another when you do not have time for education, and in general the main problem is to get food and not die of hunger or lack of a roof over your head. Poverty itself is permanent, as long as there is a difference in income between individual citizens.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Matimtim on March 06, 2021, 05:25:11 AM
This world is home of many people with different attitude and different thinking, some are happy of what they have even in the small things they can smile and  feel contented and stop dreaming something, and some are like what so said, some are lazy to pursue their dreams to get what they want in their life, therefore they suffer the consequences of their action, that's some reason why others are stay poor.

Being human we're not perfect, so dont expect too much in this world, problem is normal in life, we can eliminate poverty if all of us are willing to change our mindset because poverty or success starts in us.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BIT-BENDER on March 06, 2021, 03:22:49 PM
There may be no/absolutely-no country that is with out a poor man, economically absolutely non, but this worsens in Africa where greater are the poor than the rich, it no elude the range/realm of possibility if a country is economically without a poor but that's government to head such country are years in front of us, any government attempting it, would find a balance between economy and the natural -agriculture, ecosystem, human as a resource-


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 06, 2021, 04:42:57 PM
In what is happening in our world, it's hard to pass the blame on anyone: rich, poor, government, etc. Since there are so many factors that are caused by poverty. This is not a simple matter, but eradicating poverty may be real hard and is a long process. We should be in one goal and united if we want to make this happen, and of course it is important to take actions; not necessarily one big step, but one small step can be a big help in starting the change.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: darewaller on March 06, 2021, 04:50:41 PM
The world can live without people dying of hunger, that is one thing that is true. Jobs are something the world can't live out of however, so in this case, if everyone is given the chance to formal education, and at the same time job opportunities and livable wage, poverty can be eradicated while maintaining the current hierarchy of things, unfortunately the upper echelons are blinded by greed and would do anything in their ability to ensure they hoard all the money in the world.
There is one more thing to keep in mind that the wealthy people are so because they have a mindset to save more and spend less. I was watching a social experiment video on youtube recently and it proved that people who had nothing or call them homeless were the first ones to help others when asked for small amounts of money or food while the rich people going across didn't even bother asking the person in need.

This clearly shows that certain people are poor because they might be too generous. I am not getting into the debate whether helping others is a bad idea because I myself do the best I can to help whenever I can, but all I am saying is that sometimes we are responsible for our own financial status. Those who are greedy will always save more and spend less which is seen as being a miser but they are in much better financial status.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Mauser on March 06, 2021, 05:19:06 PM
In what is happening in our world, it's hard to pass the blame on anyone: rich, poor, government, etc. Since there are so many factors that are caused by poverty. This is not a simple matter, but eradicating poverty may be real hard and is a long process. We should be in one goal and united if we want to make this happen, and of course it is important to take actions; not necessarily one big step, but one small step can be a big help in starting the change.

I agree with you, tackling the issue requires long term planning. If the government would decide one day to just print a lot of money and give it to the poor it wouldn't really help, because the value of the money would drop a lot. For the rich it's not a problem because they are invested in stocks or real estate which is not going to lose it's value so quick.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on March 06, 2021, 06:28:18 PM
Poverty cannot be eradicated. Always some people will be in power on earth, and some people will be under the control of those powerful people. It is natural that the stronger will influence the weak. That's why it is not possible to eradicate poverty completely, But you can eliminate poverty. I think the root cause of poverty in any country is the unplanned high birth rate. When the government of a country fails to use its people properly, it turns into poverty. So, Poverty can be eliminated by transforming the population into skilled manpower.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Lanatsa on March 06, 2021, 11:37:30 PM
Poverty cannot be eradicated. Always some people will be in power on earth, and some people will be under the control of those powerful people. It is natural that the stronger will influence the weak. That's why it is not possible to eradicate poverty completely, But you can eliminate poverty. I think the root cause of poverty in any country is the unplanned high birth rate. When the government of a country fails to use its people properly, it turns into poverty. So, Poverty can be eliminated by transforming the population into skilled manpower.
You are right where there's no way that this problem could be completely be solved out because there would always be those people who are on the top.
Due to greed and having no contentment, people would always aim to have the power and the money which is more than on everybody else and this

had been the reality we've been facing even into those old era where people do really being thirst with power and fame.People who are in poverty
state couldn't really be resolved out.

Its up to someone on how he would gonna improve himself.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: verita1 on March 06, 2021, 11:52:40 PM
I don't think so because poverty has been around since ancient times. As you have argued, poverty is born with these nuances: Ignorance, lack of opportunities, also governments fail by not creating sustainable programs for them. Political interests prevail to give priority to the wealthiest class.

In our society, despite this difference, we are all necessary, poor people work in the fields, farms, industries, and their work is valuable as well and complements other high-level business jobs.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 07, 2021, 03:48:07 AM
There may be no/absolutely-no country that is with out a poor man, economically absolutely non, but this worsens in Africa where greater are the poor than the rich, it no elude the range/realm of possibility if a country is economically without a poor but that's government to head such country are years in front of us, any government attempting it, would find a balance between economy and the natural -agriculture, ecosystem, human as a resource-

Most of the African countries are headed by corrupt regimes and that is the reason why the poverty levels are so high. People vote in the elections on the basis of religion and ethnic group, rather than the honesty and integrity of the politicians. And therefore they can't really blame their governments. Another factor is that most of Africa is desert or other waste land which is unsuitable for farming. And despite this, the population is growing at an alarming rate. This means that with every passing year there are fewer natural resources for the population and that worsens the poverty situation.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: judeafante on March 07, 2021, 04:58:58 AM


Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I don't think it's possible if there are no poor who will collect the garbage, you don't expect rich people to collect your garbage, people will just take it easy, the labor-intensive job vanishes because all people are already rich, for the community to function each one should be rewarded based on his opportunity, and hard work that he put up, and not every one of us is not created equal.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iv4n on March 07, 2021, 07:26:10 AM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I don't think it's possible if there are no poor who will collect the garbage, you don't expect rich people to collect your garbage, people will just take it easy, the labor-intensive job vanishes because all people are already rich, for the community to function each one should be rewarded based on his opportunity, and hard work that he put up, and not every one of us is not created equal.

Judeafante you explained why this world with its current system can't be without poverty! We see a guy in a nice car, director of the bank, and we respect him! Even though he is a zero man, and he is stealing our money, he makes bad investments, but he gets his bonuses anyway!
But we don't have respect for people who collect garbage, and clean toilets... and without them, we would live in shit! Literally!

This system can't work without poverty, without wars (mostly imaginary)... it's how they keep us down! If you don't wish to do something that is not moral, ethical... they will tell you "if you don't do it, someone else will!", they tell you "if you talk too much we can remove you from the picture!"! Already been done so many times, and you know that system is capable of doing monstrous things, some people are ready for money to do anything...


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Question123 on March 07, 2021, 08:45:08 AM
I think it is very impossible to happen that no one will be poor because to be honest life is not fair some people become poorer because of the inflation of goods and their salary rate is very low and that is truth what is happening now. Those people who are rich become richer because they have chances to create business so their money grow. I think it's better the world if they don't have people who experienced hunger even they are poor atleast they can buy can east 3 times a day.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: EFSHAR on March 07, 2021, 09:39:57 AM
This is possible when every rich man come to help their surrounding poor people and try to help them by giving a minimum chance to improve those poor people. If every billionaires established various Foundation without thinking profited, when it can be come true. Every government also take good action to prevent poverty by doing honestly.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: plr on March 07, 2021, 10:09:22 AM
This is possible when every rich man come to help their surrounding poor people and try to help them by giving a minimum chance to improve those poor people. If every billionaires established various Foundation without thinking profited, when it can be come true. Every government also take good action to prevent poverty by doing honestly.

So everyone will have their own house and car and live luxuriously? and do you expect all these billionaires and millionaires to share their wealth, we can have a country with a majority of poor people but it's hard to have a country that will only have 5% of it as poor people even the rich country has a lot of poor people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Granxis on March 07, 2021, 11:41:38 AM
It may not be possible to solve poverty in the world, because I understand the words rich and poor differently, however hunger in the world can be ended, agricultural technological products can enable us to get more harvest in a shorter time. Thanks to agricultural technology.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 07, 2021, 01:34:27 PM
It may not be possible to solve poverty in the world, because I understand the words rich and poor differently, however hunger in the world can be ended, agricultural technological products can enable us to get more harvest in a shorter time. Thanks to agricultural technology.

I really doubt whether crop productivity can be increased any further. It has almost reached a saturation point. The climate change and decreasing soil productivity can actually cause a decline in the agricultural output in the next few decades. Also, the world population is shifting towards a protein-rich diet from a cereal/vegetable-based diet, and this requires more crop area to feed everyone.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nightxglow on March 07, 2021, 04:25:42 PM
I don't think that there will be a world without poverty. Even if we try hard, i still think that there will surely poor people out there no matter what. Maybe they are poor because they are unlucky, or maybe because they are lazy, we might not know. And, there won't be rich people without poor people, poor people is what made them rich, and sadly enough, the rich need the poor to rule the economics. If everyone is rich already, then there won't be people that willing to do hard labor work, or dirty work, or works that are usually given to the poor because of their lack of education and skills. Sad truth though, but it's really hard to change that, no matter how cruel the fact is.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: hahay on March 07, 2021, 04:30:30 PM
I don't think so, this is the same as life is not always healthy and sick because this is a cycle of life. One thing I underline is about being lazy does not guarantee poverty because in fact, there are a lot of lazy people but they live rich. Maybe this is about heredity and also unequal access, because in my view the poor are basically diligent people but they are just less fortunate or don't have the balance of knowledge that makes them live in poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 07, 2021, 05:54:20 PM
I don't think so, this is the same as life is not always healthy and sick because this is a cycle of life. One thing I underline is about being lazy does not guarantee poverty because in fact, there are a lot of lazy people but they live rich. Maybe this is about heredity and also unequal access, because in my view the poor are basically diligent people but they are just less fortunate or don't have the balance of knowledge that makes them live in poverty.

Well.. I can partially agree. Being lazy doesn't necessarily equal to being poor. And similarly, being rich doesn't always mean that the individual is hard working. But in a majority of the cases, lazy people are poor and rich people are hard working. There can be exceptions, such as individuals getting rich as a result of inheritance and hard working people getting poor as a result of robbery or confiscation. But in general, the norm is that lazy people are more likely to be poor when compared to hard working ones.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 07, 2021, 06:11:34 PM
Poverty is the accepted concept all over the world. Even in high GDP country like China facing the issue of poverty.The government should take care of the people in the poverty line.The government should give atleast the basic need to the people who suffering from poverty.

Sadly, those poor homeless people don't have a voter ID card (if they are living in a democratic country) to influence the government in their favor by the power of votes. Let alone looking after them, the politicians want to suck out as much money as they can for themselves and retain power by distributing freebies to everyone who can vote. The richest people should do more, I know they are doing but still they should be very much more generous because we as mortal human beings, won't take all money to grave, if our daily needs and wants are met, any extra cash should be donated without hesitation!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 07, 2021, 06:34:33 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I do not think so as it also depends on your definition of being 'poor.'

Technically speaking, assuming that everyone in the world has money, there will always be poverty. Even if everyone has like a million dollars on their account right now, the hierarchy will always exist as the rich will become extremely rich and the person who has the lowest amount of cash will become 'poor' even if he has a million dollars in his bank account.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: goldade on March 07, 2021, 07:48:11 PM
Trust me, there is no way for the world to be without some level of poverty. There will always be the poor in the world. As much as the rich can actually help solve the world's poverty problem by distrusting their wealth amongst everyone, they'll not do it. If they do, then there will be no one in the lab our sector. No one would have to the hard work of working as laborers in the so many industries that we have. There'll be no one to work at Macdonald, lol.
You should also know that some people are poor just because they are don't have the opportunities that could have made them rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on March 07, 2021, 10:34:26 PM
Poverty can be eradicated with the current working system retained, anyone who says otherwise is clearly not thinking their words through. One thing to note, the top 1% of the richest people on this planet can eradicate poverty all on their own, with still millions to spare, top this with livable wage, and job and education opportunities, and everyone can have a chance at securing their lives without being in debt, living in substandard conditions, or literally in poverty.
Trust me, there is no way for the world to be without some level of poverty. There will always be the poor in the world. As much as the rich can actually help solve the world's poverty problem by distrusting their wealth amongst everyone, they'll not do it. If they do, then there will be no one in the lab our sector. No one would have to the hard work of working as laborers in the so many industries that we have. There'll be no one to work at Macdonald, lol.
You should also know that some people are poor just because they are don't have the opportunities that could have made them rich.
What you said about poverty being a matter of choice for the rich is true, but just because everyone is given livable wage doesn't mean that they'd laze off and not work anymore. As much as you worry about how no one would want to cook your big mac when the Mcdonald's employees were given livable wage, you also forgot about how no one would choose to quit on McDonald's for incompetent salaries.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: xSkylarx on March 08, 2021, 01:38:54 AM
Poverty can be eradicated with the current working system retained, anyone who says otherwise is clearly not thinking their words through. One thing to note, the top 1% of the richest people on this planet can eradicate poverty all on their own, with still millions to spare, top this with livable wage, and job and education opportunities, and everyone can have a chance at securing their lives without being in debt, living in substandard conditions, or literally in poverty.

If they do that, is it guaranteed that no one will be poor anymore? There are some people that prefer to slack off on their home waiting for the government's help rather than finding a job to help their family. If all will be given a chance to finish their study in college, will all of them find a good-paying job? Some will still fail to have that and end up being an employee that will only earn the minimum wage of their country. Poor people will still exist. Poverty can only be eradicated if all will have the same mindset as those rich people have.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sayeds56 on March 08, 2021, 01:58:54 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?



Your thoughts of eliminating poverty from this world map are really appreciated. I share your concerns and even I have been struggling hard to at least eliminate poverty from my family and people related to me by teaching them skills  to make money online. In particular,  I strongly believe in empowering women by teaching them skills to earn money and become economically independent. In deed, Women well being is closely related financial independence.

Coming back to your question. I think there many ways to reduce poverty provided there is Political will from Governments and CHINA  is a good example. China has successfully reduced poverty by providing jobs to Millions of its people during the past Decade.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Negotiation on March 08, 2021, 03:07:34 AM
China is really a developing country poverty can be alleviated if other countries like china help in this way there is no such step in our country while the government helps the poor it does not reach the poor for political leaders. The government must take strict action and try to improve the living standards of the people living below the poverty line.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 08, 2021, 03:13:26 AM
Your thoughts of eliminating poverty from this world are really appreciated. I share your concerns and even I have been struggling hard to at least eliminate poverty from my family and people I know well by teaching them skills  to make money online specially I strongly believe in empowering women by teaching them skill to earn money and become economically independent.

Coming back to your question. I think there many ways to reduce poverty provided there is Political will from Governments and CHINA  is a good example. China has successfully reduced poverty by providing jobs to Millions of its peop0le during the past Decade.

China did the right thing, by focusing on the long-term vision. Most of the governments around the world looks only at short term. They believe that giving freebies and handouts to the poor will win them votes and stop them from complaining about their poverty. But this is just a temporary solution. Once the handouts are used up, these people will demand even more freebies and that makes them enslaved to their political masters. And at the same time there will be no actual improvement in their lives.

China removed most of the regulations and red tape, so that new jobs can be created. It worked well in the end. Companies are ready to pay higher wages to workers in China, as they don't have to worry much about the bureaucracy and corruption. In countries such as India and Indonesia, the wages may be low. But the companies don't want to go there because they don't want to deal with the corrupt bureaucrats.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: zanezane on March 08, 2021, 06:02:04 AM
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Read this text severally before I comprehend the message now, shall the mentality can't be destroyed easily because of new innovation of life living, previously people don't think or taught of poverty because not like Rich's and poverty, what really in existence is hard working and protection via unknown spirit's that attacks humans, but now people mindset is enrichment, and then country leaders were leading without enough fund's.
I want to really understand your side but the way you posted this one got me baffled on whether you directly did a machine translation of your native language because I can't put two and two with your combination of words and phrases. Why is there is a spirit involved in destroying the mentality that I have mentioned? Does God or the spirit realm care that we destroy that mentality?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Koro-Sensei on March 08, 2021, 07:06:30 AM
Everything has it purpose even those who are at the bottom. I believe God created this world in balance where those who strive more will gain more. However, I also know that some even in their very best still gain less in compare with their works.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tygeade on March 08, 2021, 08:20:50 AM
We see a guy in a nice car, director of the bank, and we respect him! Even though he is a zero man, and he is stealing our money, he makes bad investments, but he gets his bonuses anyway!
But we don't have respect for people who collect garbage, and clean toilets... and without them, we would live in shit! Literally!

This system can't work without poverty, without wars (mostly imaginary)... it's how they keep us down! If you don't wish to do something that is not moral, ethical... they will tell you "if you don't do it, someone else will!", they tell you "if you talk too much we can remove you from the picture!"! Already been done so many times, and you know that system is capable of doing monstrous things, some people are ready for money to do anything...
Unfortunately as long as we have poor people defending rich people for a possibility that poor person could become rich one day, we will not fix anything.

In all nations there are people who are in poverty that vote for the rich people, and that is the main problem, nobody wants to vote for a "I am not rich, you are not rich, lets tax the rich and have no poverty!!" person, they want to vote for the "we are rich, you are rich, we are all awesome!!!" person because human nature is based on being hyped and pumped up, so when a politician say that you are doing okay, you vote for him, and when they say that you are doing horrible and they can fix it, people decline being horrible.

I guess that is changing slowly and gradually but I feel like there is at least few more decades before we are 100% convinced that helping the poor is more important than helping the CEO's of the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 08, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
China is really a developing country poverty can be alleviated if other countries like china help in this way there is no such step in our country while the government helps the poor it does not reach the poor for political leaders. The government must take strict action and try to improve the living standards of the people living below the poverty line.

The approach taken by the Chinese government is the best. But it can't be implemented in the democratic nations. Because the people are more focused on short-term benefits and if a certain political party refuse to provide subsidies and freebies, then the voters will make sure that the lose the elections. The Chinese regime doesn't have to worry about the elections, and therefore they went ahead with their policies.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Noblefavored on March 08, 2021, 04:09:04 PM
I think that is possible if those in top are not greedy and not fighting each other for the name of title. Poverty may solve if the economic system will be fix, in my country all the price of products, foods, needs in everyday life are increasing but the salary of an employer is still the same and the deduction for tax and etc is increasing.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Yatsan on March 08, 2021, 04:29:30 PM
Poverty have become a part of the societal issues that can never be eliminated since the past era that the world exist for there are already societal differences between people dividing social classes depending upon the capacity and resources they have which is basically classifying into which social class they do belong. Poverty can be lessen but cannot be totally eliminated for the reason that it is not just about money but also power and availability of resources to make them survive and support their daily life necessities on which happened that is taking advantage by higher social classes making poverty be a remaining issue unresolved for people are more likely familiar and contented into the concept and boundaries between the rich and the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 09, 2021, 02:02:06 PM
A person is poor because of some reasons like it was passed to them from previous generation, he/she chose to, lazy, vicious, bad habits, with supersticious belief, abusive, one day millionaire syndrome and most of all undesciplined. All of those factors affects every individual in this world depending on how they are going to live their life and what they wanted to be. It's the mindset that makes what we are. That is why it is impossible to find a way for everyone to be rich and make the world "poor free".


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: wack slacker on March 09, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Poverty stems from many factors such as prolonged difficult circumstances, unfavorable weather for cultivation, people's qualifications unsuitable for high-income jobs, exploitation of capitalism,  bad events (debts, crashes, fatal illnesses) in a person's or family's life ...

I think there is a reason for human poverty and it occurs anywhere in the world.  Only using charity funds to help people, people need to know how to share their wealth to help others.  The world could be a better place if everyone could help each other.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tyz on March 09, 2021, 04:46:55 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

No, because poverty is always relative. In some countries people are poor with $30 monthly budget, in others with $1500. This alone shows that poverty is always relative to wealth and wealth is versatile. I don't believe that there will ever be a world in which there is no poverty, that is just an illusion. There have been attempts (socialism, communism) that have tried exactly that and failed miserably. In the end, all were poor :D


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 09, 2021, 05:03:23 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

No, because poverty is always relative. In some countries people are poor with $30 monthly budget, in others with $1500. This alone shows that poverty is always relative to wealth and wealth is versatile. I don't believe that there will ever be a world in which there is no poverty, that is just an illusion. There have been attempts (socialism, communism) that have tried exactly that and failed miserably. In the end, all were poor :D

It may be impossible to eradicate poverty. But extreme poverty (people earning less than $2 per day) can be eradicated and many of the countries (such as China and Vietnam) have made great strides in this regard. Extreme poverty is now present only in a few African and a small number of Asian nations. And even there compared to what we had in the 1970s and 1980s, the rates are much lower.

So a lot of progress has been made over the years. But still a lot needs to be done. And in some rare scenarios, poverty levels have actually increased in some of the countries. Examples are Libya, Tajikistan, Venezuela, Zimbabwe.etc.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Spaffin on March 09, 2021, 05:33:31 PM
The story has repeatedly showed vivid examples of socialism, where the goal is the equality of people, but as it turned out in the socialist country, people were slaves, but the rich only in the government. In addition, rich and poor will always exist even because one can work more and learn better, but to lazy to be lazy and lazy once again.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: pinggoki on March 09, 2021, 05:38:12 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There's no other way that the people can live all rich because at the end of the day, the world still have hierarchy in which in order to be balance there must be poor and there must be rich. I've remember what my professor said way back when I am in junior high school that if you born poor and you ended up in a poor family and until you grow, you didn't change your economically status then it is your problem because there are so many ways that you can do in order to be rich but you didn't do it. Life is really unfair, the rich people are the ones who are getting richer and richer.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kez1817 on March 09, 2021, 08:30:28 PM
How can all be rich? How can all be poor? Everything need to be balance. If all people are rich, who will do other works that only poor people can do? That's why it's impossible without poverty because that is already a part of society and economy since the beginning. Sometimes, even people strive more to become rich but at the end still useless and remained poor. Sometimes we think that life is unfair but that is the reality, there is rich, middle class, poor and poorest among the poor, we can't change it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jaberwock on March 10, 2021, 12:25:59 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Let's understand how is a poor defined first. It is defined by someone who has fewer resources and money as compared to others who live near him.

Consider this example:

My uncle has a car and anyone who doesn't have one is poor for them.

I don't have a car but because I have a bike so anyone who doesn't have a bike is poor to me.

This goes on and the basic thing I wanted to touch with the comparison is that no one is poor or rich unless you are comparing them with someone else. I would say anyone who has food, shelter, and basic needs isn't poor and there is no need for the rich to give anything to them.

If you remove poverty and everyone is living the same life, there will be no competition in the world. It's similar to how if all the students in a school are given the same marks, then how do you expect them to work harder.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MUHAMMAD NUR AMANAH on March 10, 2021, 01:04:28 PM
Obviously that can never happen because in human life there must be both rich and poor and that isa fact that exists in our daily lives and I think we all wish we could reduce the poverty around us but it might be difficult to realize that in almost every country there must be a lot of poverty Have we ever had an increase or decrease because it was either fate or fate that we might have to pass through whether this has become our destiny as humans and we have to live it and it all depends on us how to live this life


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TedMosby on March 10, 2021, 05:58:29 PM
this is just my opinion,
I think it's impossible because it will cause a looping.
if there's no poverty in this world, then the "buying power" from people is high in quantity and quality.
supply and demand.
let say you want to buy X. X supply is limited.
no poverty means, more people will be qualified to buy X.
it will cause the price of X will increase since the supply is limited.
when the price is higher and higher, people can't afford to buy X, until they find other alternatives.
what if X is food, your daily needs / basic needs?
what if there's no alternative?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: geegaw on March 10, 2021, 06:18:21 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Many countries have tried that but it's impossible to do that, communist countries like North Korea and other ultra communist countries have tried to establish a society that has no poor but all their attempt prove futile only those in power are the ones living in luxurious and the people ended up a slave, people are not equal in their desires and skills and those who are working the most deserve to reap their rewards.
The government's efforts and social settings do not help the poor, it just helps the bad guys take advantage of more opportunities to make black money, this society and world since we were born, it did not exist justice, power and riches only belong to the strong, the weak can also overcome this wall with effort but in the end, wealth will make individuals change in personality. The rich will never want them to be poor, they just focus on the luxurious life, and want such a life, part of the human being will be forced to be poor to become a springboard.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Golftech on March 11, 2021, 02:48:30 AM
How can all be rich? How can all be poor? Everything need to be balance. If all people are rich, who will do other works that only poor people can do? That's why it's impossible without poverty because that is already a part of society and economy since the beginning. Sometimes, even people strive more to become rich but at the end still useless and remained poor. Sometimes we think that life is unfair but that is the reality, there is rich, middle class, poor and poorest among the poor, we can't change it.

Logically right, who will fixed your toilet bowl if all the people around you have the same richness that you have.

you always need to have someone who are capable or willing to deal with that, sad to say that it was the poor

who are willing to take that responsibilities, in the other side, who will start a business if all  doesn't have

enough money to capitalize? and then, there's the rich people who are going to deal with it. Life is not unfair

as we are always capable in working it out enriching our opportunities in life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ausgewielt on March 11, 2021, 04:07:41 AM
I think it can be happen in the future, it seems that it will happen because when technology become more advance then we as human can maximalize earth resources. When all sectors of industry produce maximum output then the supply will be enough for all people. The example is the internet, before there is no internet people didn't easily communicate like nowadays. I think we can use that analogy, so technology help people to fulfill their necessities easier. We can also look at bitcoin which improve economy of many people around the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: apleio on March 11, 2021, 05:29:41 AM
It is possible now only when there are no governments and money is no longer inflationary and debt. BTC and other forms of wealth transfer are just the beginning of the new technological paradigm. We are very fortunate to be living in a failed system that destroys itself over time. The transition will remain tough for most people unrelated to crypto until its use is normalized for day-to-day use.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 11, 2021, 06:51:52 AM
Government is the reason of the poor can get help to be honest, you're saying if there are no governments meaning we gonna live in a jungle where there's only law of the jungle and you can imagine it's gonna be like in medieval time when there's many small kings. It's just not gonna work out and there's reason why the modern world revolves around governance.

Well.. I would prefer a decentralized system (such as the one they have in Switzerland) to the centralized government (which is prevalent in countries such as the United States). It would mean demographic groups that doesn't have large populations can take part in policy-making decisions. In centralized government systems, minority groups are always ignored and their voices are not heard.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Janation on March 11, 2021, 08:11:56 AM
I don't see this happening despite the efforts of a few to help others.

There are a lot of poor people(PP) compare to rich people(RP). While there are instances that we can blame PP for being poor, most of them are because there are a lot of RP taking advantage of these PP. How can these PP rise, if there are a lot of RP boosting themselves up while pushing those PP under them further below?

There are a lot of proofs, just consider the employment here in our country that even a waiter or a sales lady's job requirement is too much for the said job. While their requirement is so high, the pay grade is not even comparable to the said requirement. This is the world we are living in, as RPs will keep their stumping their feet on the ground while those PPs will keep on persevering on that same ground.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jostorres on March 11, 2021, 08:37:53 AM
In all nations there are people who are in poverty that vote for the rich people, and that is the main problem, nobody wants to vote for a "I am not rich, you are not rich, lets tax the rich and have no poverty!!" person, they want to vote for the "we are rich, you are rich, we are all awesome!!!" person because human nature is based on being hyped and pumped up, so when a politician say that you are doing okay, you vote for him, and when they say that you are doing horrible and they can fix it, people decline being horrible.

I guess that is changing slowly and gradually but I feel like there is at least few more decades before we are 100% convinced that helping the poor is more important than helping the CEO's of the world.
The newer generations never saw that profit and that is why they are getting a bit more leftist, if you look at who 2000+ born people vote for, you will see that they are not communists, they are just not capitalist at all, they just want a capitalist world with high taxes and regulations, they know it could happen, we do not need to become Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, china, just because someone is leftist doesn't mean that they support those ideas, it just means take any capitalist country in the world, like usa, and put high taxes on people making 1+ million dollars a year, and have regulations on how corporations can't abuse their workers that's it.

Seriously just those two things would be more than enough, rest could stay the same, and if you think "people who profit 1+ million dollars a year should pay more taxes" will suddenly turn into china, you are an idiot. So newer generations are getting there, I am hopeful.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Saisher on March 11, 2021, 11:44:07 AM
We have everything we need, the technology and the knowledge have increased and there are various studies and philosophies about life and living, but unfortunately it can'r resolve and it will never resolve equality, we are created to be this way his time immorial there are rich people and there are poor people and will continue to be this way, because there is now way and no fix.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: uelque on March 11, 2021, 01:27:50 PM
Life is not going to be balance and for sure the economy would crash. There will be a shortage on the supply of basic goods and daily needs and etc. because no one will work for it. Who would work for rich people if everyone are rich? Simply no one. Ain't gonna work for anyone if I am rich.

So, we just need to accept that poverty is part of our economy. We can somehow lessen it but it can't be totally eliminated.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: GreenStox on March 11, 2021, 07:49:45 PM
I looked at the list of countries with the most prosperous population in the world and Canada was in the top position then the average income of the population reached 6000CAD / month and the cost of living there ranged from 1300-300cad depending on each person.
So it seems that it is equal and equal to people in poor countries where they can also save the rest of their money but in less amount and the cost of living there is lower of course you can but there will always be a social level.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Fatunad on March 11, 2021, 08:17:55 PM
I looked at the list of countries with the most prosperous population in the world and Canada was in the top position then the average income of the population reached 6000CAD / month and the cost of living there ranged from 1300-300cad depending on each person.
So it seems that it is equal and equal to people in poor countries where they can also save the rest of their money but in less amount and the cost of living there is lower of course you can but there will always be a social level.
Main reason on why people do really migrate out on other places due to this very reason where they do tend to earn more via means of difference when it comes to monetary value compared to other
countries which means they could earn more than that they can earn if they do stay locally and this is the sad fact.It is just normal for a person to find up ways on where he can really
able to earn money the most but in talks about poverty then this isnt something that can really be solved out completely.There's always an inequality when it comes to life standard or situation.
Some would be earning decent and some wont really have any jobs due to incompetence's or lack or sufficient in all sorts.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: angrynerd88 on March 17, 2021, 04:21:17 PM
Its exceptionally imperative and wide tiopic,As per my information its conceivable destitution can dispense with from the world on the off chance that World humanitarion organistion,Developed nations and Extremely rich person worth commerce proprietors truly take action,But tragically no one can genuine take it.One side Elon Musk spend Billions of dollars on mars and other side in africa numerous individuals misplaced their lives due to hunger.I think our planet require consideration from all extremely rich people not mars,Still african and asian nations individuals live underneath destitution line and require consideration from individuals who spend Billions on fair their life fashion.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Josefjix on March 17, 2021, 04:33:14 PM
Everyone would judge base on the aspect they can derive physical examples from I myself isn't left out in the conglomerate. Poverty can only be lessened, to be eliminated completely isn't realistic enough. For economy to balance there must be the first class citizens, the upper class, the middle class and the lower class citizens. Poverty can be lessened through offering a service to foot medical bills, shelter, feeding, education and basic home needs. Through education poverty can be lessened.

The government isn't the only one who needs to eliminate the risk factors involved in poverty by controlling the boundaries between the first class and lower class citizens. It is a mindset of both individuals in the two classes to derive a helping hand to reduce it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oasisman on March 17, 2021, 09:41:09 PM
Life is not going to be balance and for sure the economy would crash. There will be a shortage on the supply of basic goods and daily needs and etc. because no one will work for it. Who would work for rich people if everyone are rich? Simply no one. Ain't gonna work for anyone if I am rich.

So, we just need to accept that poverty is part of our economy. We can somehow lessen it but it can't be totally eliminated.

Well, you've got a very good point. Nobody would work for the poor people's job If everyone makes the same amount of money. Plus, people are forever discontented. So, a lot of us would find something that could produce more money than everybody else, thus those who remains the same would be classified as the poor people, because they haven't done something that could make them earn more money than they usually were.
Another reason for poverty is the poor leadership of corrupt officials seated in the high offices.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TheGreatPython on March 19, 2021, 07:20:42 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
That is not going to be possible, and I am saying that because there are so many reasons why someone can be poor. That someone is rich today doesn’t mean his children are going to be rich tomorrow, his children can still end up being poor or average because of the reasons you have listed which is that lack of knowledge that is disturbing some of them.

As humans our characteristics differs, there are people who are wise enough and they know what to do, they have the knowledge to do that and when they are applying that knowledge it is working for them, while others are lazy or have got to knowledge at all. So someone being rich or poor can be because of one reason or the other.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: mazdafunsun on March 20, 2021, 09:02:07 AM
i think that this is a great topic and interesting one. The first thought thaw came into my mind after reading your post was - no, it is not possible  and i was thinking of third world countries and the western world, it seems that 3rd world countries are doing the low paid job and the western world is paying them for it in exchnage for their cheap goods which seemingly is the foundation of capitalism. But then there are rich countries without any resources with good fundamental economics like Finland which could easily live without any cheap products from 3rd world countries and have the same good economics, this makes me think that there is world where everyone could live in prosperity.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Darkelf11 on March 20, 2021, 01:35:34 PM
We have a different perspective in life it's like a race to the ones who already got hard-working times they are the ones who got a lot of earnings and they now handle that situation to become rich this is the mistake of other people they let themselves go with the flow and not making their paths. This is the hierarchy starts if you got a good amount of money and power you can now easily manipulate the people lower than your situation. Eventhough we want to help them still they can't handle their own selves to rise.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Nhazwrath on March 20, 2021, 02:37:29 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Before you can have this conversation you have to first...

Define poverty.   For north America is poverty less then 2 tvs?  No tvs?  No cable?  No smart phone?   No house? or No food?  No healthcare?  What is it?   Will you Stand by that definition or will you let someone else redefine it every 3 years? Is it correct to redefine it every 3 years? 

Your statement claims the reason people are rich and people are poor is due to the "hierarchy"   This statement is maybe 10% correct.   The creation of a hierarchy is necessary to get things done.  That in itself is a topic worth entire threads on. 

Most people are under the assumption that there is some sort of balance in the universe, and that we humans are somehow violating with hierarchy creation.   The universe would have instantly snuffed itself out if it was created equally.  Matter and antimatter would have instantly erased each other and there would be No universe.    The universe literally functions by being unequal.

Investigate what a Pareto distribution is.  Trees follow it.   Planets follow it.  Suns follow it.   Human Hierarchy's follow it.   

Capitalism doesn't create 1 hierarchy like socialism does.   Where you have 99% poor and starving people.  Capitalism creates Millions of Hierarchy's.  Almost no one starves. Perfect ?  No.  Perfection is a goal which you will Never ever reach.  But the idea that you should remove/suppress/tax all the people who are generating wealth due to what is IN FACT jealousy to revert to a system that guarantees that same poverty which you are claiming it will avoid.  Is what I call Insanity.

Last question why does this question come up everywhere all the damn time? 


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AicecreaME on March 20, 2021, 03:54:20 PM
A world without poverty? That utopia! And I bet it would never gonna happen. Not in this time where elites prefer to just stay inside their bubble and keep on turning a blind eye. I'm not blaming them for having a good life though, of course, the majority of them deserve what they have. I'm pertaining to those people who hoard so much wealth while not giving a damn thing about the average people they are exploiting to generate their wealth.

Poverty is deep-rooted and it existed for time immemorial. It could not be easily eliminated in an instant. Not when most people have their own priorities in life and the leaders governing are putting their self-interests first.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Myleschetty on March 20, 2021, 09:14:39 PM
The world can not be without poverty. Having said that, the word poverty can be illustrated in different philosophies in life cause ignorant people are somehow in poverty and why people who have no money are also in poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Wisbrown on March 20, 2021, 09:29:25 PM
The world cannot be without poverty because is not in any location is a mentality. There some persons that can never  be rich because of their mentality. They cannot take risk because they over value what they have and always believe in failure.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 21, 2021, 04:11:25 AM
A world without poverty? That utopia! And I bet it would never gonna happen. Not in this time where elites prefer to just stay inside their bubble and keep on turning a blind eye. I'm not blaming them for having a good life though, of course, the majority of them deserve what they have. I'm pertaining to those people who hoard so much wealth while not giving a damn thing about the average people they are exploiting to generate their wealth.

Poverty is deep-rooted and it existed for time immemorial. It could not be easily eliminated in an instant. Not when most people have their own priorities in life and the leaders governing are putting their self-interests first.

There is no point in being jealous. The rich have worked hard for their wealth and they do pay a significant part of their earnings back to the government in the form of various direct and indirect taxes. Rather than complaining about the rich, the so called "poor" should try to learn new skills rather than being a burden to the society. And also, they should stop producing a dozen children each, as the planet is already overpopulated.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: charlesmichel1 on March 21, 2021, 06:16:18 AM
"Can the world be without the rich?" is almost the same question. And the answer is no. We live in capitalistic society. Even progressive taxation system can't eliminate inequality.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 21, 2021, 07:02:53 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I guess no because it's in human nature that they will take advantage to gain and to be above. Many people are aiming to have power, to rule, and to get all of the things they've wanted because this is what we need for survival. So at the end of the day, even we reset the world, even we start from the start and refresh the economy, the poor will still exist. Well, the term "poor" has a different meaning in different ideals so we can't do anything about it and it'll exist forever. How can an individual with a normal characteristic, rise above if he can't? because some individuals are better and can manage to bring themselves above without extra effort because they're made completely better than others and that's how they divide the people's status.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on March 21, 2021, 07:50:45 AM
The world cannot be without poverty because is not in any location is a mentality. There some persons that can never  be rich because of their mentality. They cannot take risk because they over value what they have and always believe in failure.
People who are too afraid of risk usually not rich but have enough for them to make living, mentality is truly problem but usually poor people are lacking in education and that's the number one contributor of many poor people failure to get out of poverty and many of them also have the habit of overspending on something useless because they want to fill the void in their feeling of desire for a long time. basic universal income could also work to solve poverty if it was given not in form of money but basic needs like food.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ShowOff on March 21, 2021, 09:38:26 AM
I guess no because it's in human nature that they will take advantage to gain and to be above.
Education and employment can at least reduce poverty in every country. The poverty rate will increase if there are many unemployed in a country because of the narrow job opportunities. In this case, the government of a country is responsible for creating jobs for its citizen which in turn will increase its economic level.

The poverty rate in developed and developing countries are very different. In developed countries the poverty rate may be much lower than in developing countries, especially if there are still many corrupt official. My country is still categorized as a poor country in my opinion. There are thousand of college graduate who do not have a job which is increasing every year and has caused poverty to continue to grow.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Taskford on March 21, 2021, 11:44:39 AM
The world cannot be without poverty because is not in any location is a mentality. There some persons that can never  be rich because of their mentality. They cannot take risk because they over value what they have and always believe in failure.
People who are too afraid of risk usually not rich but have enough for them to make living, mentality is truly problem but usually poor people are lacking in education and that's the number one contributor of many poor people failure to get out of poverty and many of them also have the habit of overspending on something useless because they want to fill the void in their feeling of desire for a long time. basic universal income could also work to solve poverty if it was given not in form of money but basic needs like food.
True but some times it is not just the uneducated that are poor, we have seen even the educated go broke even with their high level of education because of they too did some sort of overspending on things that aren't relevant to them but at the time it was more like a show off or a competition with others. Any ways, poverty is some thing that cant be totally eradicated from this world cos thing will have to work in complementary of the other.   

Not all educated since the competition to find job is so high and also I saw so many guys became rich even though they don't have any college diploma, Degree doesn't mean anything since hardwork and being street smart is one of the key of others to became millionaires. If government change their school lecturing and teach kids how to be a businessman and financial literacy maybe it can decrease the poverty rate on their country.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: oHnK on March 21, 2021, 12:30:12 PM
I guess no because it's in human nature that they will take advantage to gain and to be above.
Education and employment can at least reduce poverty in every country. The poverty rate will increase if there are many unemployed in a country because of the narrow job opportunities. In this case, the government of a country is responsible for creating jobs for its citizen which in turn will increase its economic level.

The poverty rate in developed and developing countries are very different. In developed countries the poverty rate may be much lower than in developing countries, especially if there are still many corrupt official. My country is still categorized as a poor country in my opinion. There are thousand of college graduate who do not have a job which is increasing every year and has caused poverty to continue to grow.

Yes, education can reduce poverty but a world without poverty is impossible.  Because if at this time there was even distribution of wealth and really everyone was given 10,000 USD, then those who are currently poor will still be poor because they are not thinking about multiplying the money that will run out later but are lazy to think about buying everything they need and want.  As happened in my country, one region received a large amount of money for asset replacement due to land eviction.  The money that is generated is not invested but is spent busy buying a car which is basically a desire not a need.  That is the mindset that keeps poverty on this earth.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Slow death on March 21, 2021, 12:51:51 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

here it is necessary to make it clear that it is not possible that all people are not poor, but it is possible that all people are poor with basic and good conditions to live, when I talk about basic and good conditions I mean having food every day, money for clothes and at least a car, a salary or a business

the reason why the world is watching countries like mine where people are dying of hunger Is because a group of corrupt, bad and brainless people are presidents of many countries.

the problem is in corruption and leaders who know nothing (dumb presidents)

It is sad that many people choose people who know nothing to be presidents of their country and worse they choose corrupt and thieves to be presidents of their countries, and the result is that many countries are in poverty


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: geegaw on March 21, 2021, 02:44:57 PM
A world without poverty? That utopia! And I bet it would never gonna happen. Not in this time where elites prefer to just stay inside their bubble and keep on turning a blind eye. I'm not blaming them for having a good life though, of course, the majority of them deserve what they have. I'm pertaining to those people who hoard so much wealth while not giving a damn thing about the average people they are exploiting to generate their wealth.

Poverty is deep-rooted and it existed for time immemorial. It could not be easily eliminated in an instant. Not when most people have their own priorities in life and the leaders governing are putting their self-interests first.

There is no point in being jealous. The rich have worked hard for their wealth and they do pay a significant part of their earnings back to the government in the form of various direct and indirect taxes. Rather than complaining about the rich, the so called "poor" should try to learn new skills rather than being a burden to the society. And also, they should stop producing a dozen children each, as the planet is already overpopulated.
Unfortunately, most poor people have an inferiority complex and feel very jealous of the rich, they cannot give up their poor status and go up, they just sit there complaining about their fates and failures while the rich stay active and go up every day, only a few poor people can sympathize with their fate and try to give up a poor life in order to go up. Having too many children is not a reason to be poor, it is important that the thinking of the poor is too backward and not upgraded, it is difficult to dismiss this thought when it was plugged too deep into their minds


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Alucard1 on March 21, 2021, 03:27:58 PM
I don't think that the world will exist without poverty, things should be balanced if there are rich then there are also poor people, we can not say some as a rich person if we don't have the concept of being poor, there wouldn't be labors if all people are rich right? What would happen to many companies or factories that are executing manually by the laborers if we are all rich.  The world would really not good if there would be no balance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: pankowri on March 21, 2021, 05:03:23 PM
We live in a system where we can't build anything which is systematically going on. Likewise, poverty can't finish within a night, it is a process and we, the people already habituated with it. But it can be reduced over the time by helping the poor. To change the social system, there will be needed a revolution then it may works by establishing Marxism or socialism, maybe. Though every theory has it's own limitation.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: virasisog on March 22, 2021, 02:13:15 AM
No, we cannot make social status balance where there is no one poor. You are correct sometimes it is not the lack of opportunity or knowledge that is the reason behind poverty, it is people being lazy and dependent on whatever they can get for free. Just imagine if everyone is rich and financially capable, no one will be working, there will be jo manpower, no one needs a job. I guess that is how the economy works. Even developed countries cannot solve poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: South Park on March 22, 2021, 03:44:40 AM
The world cannot be without poverty because is not in any location is a mentality. There some persons that can never  be rich because of their mentality. They cannot take risk because they over value what they have and always believe in failure.
People who are too afraid of risk usually not rich but have enough for them to make living, mentality is truly problem but usually poor people are lacking in education and that's the number one contributor of many poor people failure to get out of poverty and many of them also have the habit of overspending on something useless because they want to fill the void in their feeling of desire for a long time. basic universal income could also work to solve poverty if it was given not in form of money but basic needs like food.
True but some times it is not just the uneducated that are poor, we have seen even the educated go broke even with their high level of education because of they too did some sort of overspending on things that aren't relevant to them but at the time it was more like a show off or a competition with others. Any ways, poverty is some thing that cant be totally eradicated from this world cos thing will have to work in complementary of the other.   
That is because people receive a lot of training in their particular fields of study but most people never receive any training about how to manage their finances, which is completely ridiculous, people need to receive financial education but governments do not want to do this, and this is because they benefit from leaving most of the population on the dark about the economy, if people knew what they were doing with their fiat or their taxes governments will not be able to get away with half of the stuff they do.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: kaya11 on March 22, 2021, 02:02:50 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

It can, if only the whole people in world cooperate with each other. Maybe if therr no boundaries and limits, no more racism and we stand as one nation. But it is still far away from reality, maybe a war could break and kill most of the people of the earth and the ones left are the good ones who doesn't discriminate. It is possible mate, anything is possible. But if we see backwards, read history, poverty was there, just think how many thousands of years it was and yet we are here right now, poverty is never like before, it's the balance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: uneng on March 22, 2021, 02:26:56 PM
No, we cannot make social status balance where there is no one poor. You are correct sometimes it is not the lack of opportunity or knowledge that is the reason behind poverty, it is people being lazy and dependent on whatever they can get for free. Just imagine if everyone is rich and financially capable, no one will be working, there will be jo manpower, no one needs a job. I guess that is how the economy works. Even developed countries cannot solve poverty.
Machines will keep working. Poverty can be finished with technology. As technology is developed we need less and less human effort in order to acquire goods and services we need daily. Instead of human labor, machines replace it with efficiency. Furthermore, life becomes cheaper as we advance towards the future and I can mention alternative sources of energy as an example. They are freely generated!
Of course lazy and pessimistic people will still face issues in life and there will be much richer people above them, but anyway the life quality of the poorest ones will be much better than now. History repeat itself: Look how was the life of the poorest ones centuries ago and how it is now. There is a significant improvement in life standards.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: hahay on March 22, 2021, 04:00:13 PM
I don't think that the world will exist without poverty, things should be balanced if there are rich then there are also poor people, we can not say some as a rich person if we don't have the concept of being poor, there wouldn't be labors if all people are rich right? What would happen to many companies or factories that are executing manually by the laborers if we are all rich.  The world would really not good if there would be no balance.
Therefore, we should care more about life, because with the awareness of rich and poor at least we will use money wisely because rich and poor in this world are always side by side. At least with this awareness, we will be more able to appreciate many things in this world and not only about economics and finances, because by realizing that there are rich and poor, there is nothing we can be proud of even though we have a lot of money because this life will rotate.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 22, 2021, 05:19:59 PM
Unfortunately, most poor people have an inferiority complex and feel very jealous of the rich, they cannot give up their poor status and go up, they just sit there complaining about their fates and failures while the rich stay active and go up every day, only a few poor people can sympathize with their fate and try to give up a poor life in order to go up. Having too many children is not a reason to be poor, it is important that the thinking of the poor is too backward and not upgraded, it is difficult to dismiss this thought when it was plugged too deep into their minds

Completely agreed. For the sake of argument, it can be claimed that previously it was extremely difficult for the poor people to gain necessary education or skills so that they could qualify for a job that provides them with a decent salary. But that is not the case now. Smartphones and mobile internet connections are now affordable for everyone. If someone really want to get themselves out of poverty, then they can do that with relative ease.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: romero121 on March 22, 2021, 10:49:42 PM
Unfortunately, most poor people have an inferiority complex and feel very jealous of the rich, they cannot give up their poor status and go up, they just sit there complaining about their fates and failures while the rich stay active and go up every day, only a few poor people can sympathize with their fate and try to give up a poor life in order to go up. Having too many children is not a reason to be poor, it is important that the thinking of the poor is too backward and not upgraded, it is difficult to dismiss this thought when it was plugged too deep into their minds

Completely agreed. For the sake of argument, it can be claimed that previously it was extremely difficult for the poor people to gain necessary education or skills so that they could qualify for a job that provides them with a decent salary. But that is not the case now. Smartphones and mobile internet connections are now affordable for everyone. If someone really want to get themselves out of poverty, then they can do that with relative ease.
The financial system thats been followed by the government is completely wrong. It has got the responsibility to support the one in need and uplift them to reach the next level of life. Here, what the government does is completely against this. It always wants to support the corporate networks and other firms, which means governments believe infrastructure and financial development in terms of GDP will hide the poverty to the outer world. Even USA is not an exception, similar thing is going on. There are people who are living more than six years on the car because of poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Finestream on March 22, 2021, 11:07:16 PM
Unfortunately, most poor people have an inferiority complex and feel very jealous of the rich, they cannot give up their poor status and go up, they just sit there complaining about their fates and failures while the rich stay active and go up every day, only a few poor people can sympathize with their fate and try to give up a poor life in order to go up. Having too many children is not a reason to be poor, it is important that the thinking of the poor is too backward and not upgraded, it is difficult to dismiss this thought when it was plugged too deep into their minds

Completely agreed. For the sake of argument, it can be claimed that previously it was extremely difficult for the poor people to gain necessary education or skills so that they could qualify for a job that provides them with a decent salary. But that is not the case now. Smartphones and mobile internet connections are now affordable for everyone. If someone really want to get themselves out of poverty, then they can do that with relative ease.
If you are born poor, that's fine but if you still end up poor when dying, then it's a sin already, it's already a choice. Poverty cannot be fully eradicate but there are a lot of ways on how to lessen them. Government should also know how to assist the poor like extending equal job opportunities to rich or poor and not only for those who are favored relatives of the government officials.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on March 22, 2021, 11:11:12 PM
The financial system thats been followed by the government is completely wrong. It has got the responsibility to support the one in need and uplift them to reach the next level of life. Here, what the government does is completely against this. It always wants to support the corporate networks and other firms, which means governments believe infrastructure and financial development in terms of GDP will hide the poverty to the outer world. Even USA is not an exception, similar thing is going on. There are people who are living more than six years on the car because of poverty.
You can talk about high matters as much as you like, but reality will still make its own adjustments. Unfortunately, we do not live in an ideal world, and the powerful of this world will always try and use the state mechanism to promote their interests and strengthen their influence and wealth. The most important thing is that this either coincides with the interests of other segments of the population of the state or that these segments of the population can curb these encroachments on their own interests in order to reduce the difference in the level of wealth of citizens.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 23, 2021, 03:59:17 AM
It is possible but not achievable. We are in the world today where some people because of the religious and cultural believe think no government can tell them how many kids they much give birth. Check the population growth index, you will discover that countries that have bad economy, poverty striking communities etc

More population shouldn't always equal to less development and economical status. If we can consider the bigger population as some kind of human resource, we can actually say more the population, more is the resource if only the country and their government knows how to use that valueable resource. The excess population can be recruited in army where the country will be stronger in terms of defense while providing employment to unemployed ones. Making use of natural resources efficiently is a fundamental need for every individual for their country and even the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 23, 2021, 05:32:57 AM
Poverty cannot be erased from the world at least not this one. There will always be rich and poor people like prey and predator relationship. It gives balance to the ecosystem. If you try to upset this system by pumping in money to the "poor people", a high percentage would still come back to square one.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: crypticj on March 23, 2021, 05:51:27 AM
There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 23, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
Poverty cannot be erased from the world at least not this one. There will always be rich and poor people like prey and predator relationship. It gives balance to the ecosystem. If you try to upset this system by pumping in money to the "poor people", a high percentage would still come back to square one.

Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: blckhawk on March 23, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
Poverty cannot be erased from the world at least not this one. There will always be rich and poor people like prey and predator relationship. It gives balance to the ecosystem. If you try to upset this system by pumping in money to the "poor people", a high percentage would still come back to square one.

Very well said. Poverty cannot be eradicated by any country even if they wealthy enough. With the increasing amount of population, the number of people who became unemployed increasing as well thus will result in poverty. There's nothing we can do about poverty even if the government do all support they could there be still some individual fall behind. It can be reduced but will not fully eradicate, yes several countries are capable of doing this but the majority of the countries are not capable. Besides, I think you have a point regards on prey and predator relationship, that is one of the reasons why there will be poor people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 24, 2021, 09:59:59 AM

Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.
China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Mauser on March 24, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Spaffin on March 24, 2021, 04:00:00 PM

Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.
China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.
Nevertheless, in India there is a rather large contrast, compared to China, and if in China, figuratively speaking, there is black, gray and white at the same time, then in India there is practically only black and white. And this says that poverty is on a large scale. It should be borne in mind that India is a very rich country, but the population does not feel it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: uneng on March 24, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.
If the country is developed and rich it's about technology adoption and not climate conditions, at least nowadays. Climate conditions can't be an excuse for poverty and precariousness. Look Israel for example: their spot isn't a very good one from natural conditions perspective, still they are a rich country which export technology to other countries.
All countries have conditions to develop or adopt technology in order to help their citizens leave poverty, the point is that not all governments have this as main goal.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ucy on March 24, 2021, 04:41:46 PM
There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.


It's also possible that there are people who consider themselves poor because they compare themselves with others.
In typical rural areas, there are lots of "poor" people who are well fed, have real properties etc but once they are exposed to modern riches they feel poor and want to become like the modern people. They sell their lands, goats, cows to rent properties in cities or travel abroad.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 24, 2021, 06:05:01 PM
China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.

Obviously a nation would remain as poor if the population doubles every two decades. Also we need to remember that India is one of the most densely populated nations in the planet with a population of 1.4 billion (which is increasing at a rate of 2% per year). China did the right thing by limiting the population, and it had a real impact on improving the living condition of its citizens. India is where China was in the 1980s.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: perfect999 on March 24, 2021, 06:14:35 PM
Poverty cannot be eradicated by any country even if they wealthy enough. With the increasing amount of population, the number of people who became unemployed increasing as well thus will result in poverty. There's nothing we can do about poverty even if the government do all support they could there be still some individual fall behind. It can be reduced but will not fully eradicate, yes several countries are capable of doing this but the majority of the countries are not capable. Besides, I think you have a point regards on prey and predator relationship, that is one of the reasons why there will be poor people.
You do not have to print money to give to poor people, there is a method that could cycle the money issue and would help everyone as well. Think about it this way, if the wealthy people paid a lot of money, and I do not even mean people with few million dollars, I mean people with 100+ million dollars networth, if those people were taxed very high, and that money is spent on people who get paid less than 50k that would allow those people to constantly have money thanks to the taxes.

It would also allow those people to spend that money and become poor again but since taxes are paid by the wealthy those people would get back on their feet again, eventually allowing next generation to be smarter about it and learn the value of money. Now you are increasing the poor count, nothing else, the current system is not working, you may disagree on my idea, but at least it wasn't tested, not like I told you, but the current one is tested and it is horrible.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BETTYUI on March 25, 2021, 07:48:12 AM
Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nicecrypto on March 25, 2021, 09:17:59 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance. Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There is always two sides to every thing and that is the normal way there will always be the rich and the poor on the other side to balance out the natural cause of live. For now, there is no way or nothing can be done to eradicate that aspect of life and I get what you are asking as highlighted, whether people can just be able to afford stuffs even without not necessary being a millionaire that too, is not possible there will always be some people some where not having a way to make daily ends meet.   


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: cute nmp on March 25, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
Poverty is basically the condition of not having enough to satisfy our basic needs such as food, clothing and shelter.It's reduced by taking economic and humanitarian measures specially designed to lower the rate of poverty.A world without poverty will be challenging but can be achievable at some point.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: South Park on March 26, 2021, 01:30:39 AM
No, we cannot make social status balance where there is no one poor. You are correct sometimes it is not the lack of opportunity or knowledge that is the reason behind poverty, it is people being lazy and dependent on whatever they can get for free. Just imagine if everyone is rich and financially capable, no one will be working, there will be jo manpower, no one needs a job. I guess that is how the economy works. Even developed countries cannot solve poverty.
Machines will keep working. Poverty can be finished with technology. As technology is developed we need less and less human effort in order to acquire goods and services we need daily. Instead of human labor, machines replace it with efficiency. Furthermore, life becomes cheaper as we advance towards the future and I can mention alternative sources of energy as an example. They are freely generated!
Of course lazy and pessimistic people will still face issues in life and there will be much richer people above them, but anyway the life quality of the poorest ones will be much better than now. History repeat itself: Look how was the life of the poorest ones centuries ago and how it is now. There is a significant improvement in life standards.
Yes, despite what we may see on the news our improvements when it comes to technology have caused the number of people living in poverty to go down and this is important, assuming we can keep in this direction we may have a minimum standard of living even for the less fortunate ones that could be decent, however in that world poverty will still exist as there will be people with a lot and people with less, but I do not have a problem with that, people forget that even a middle class person of today lives in many ways with greater luxury than the kings of just one century ago, as we have access to way better medical care, exotic food on demand and all kinds of entertainment at the tip of our fingers.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 26, 2021, 03:33:26 AM
Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DevilSlayer on March 26, 2021, 03:51:38 AM
Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
I doubt that there is a country who do not experiencing any kind of poverty. What you just said is wrong because in those countries that you mentioned are also experiencing poverty. The balance of the world will fall if all of the persons are in the state of being rich. Poverty will be forever in this world. Many people doesn't aware that poverty is inherited. Which means it can be passed down from generations to generations. The truth is we cannot wipe out the poverty because there are some people who doesn't have enough characteristics to become middle class or rich but we can lessen the poverty rate by becoming financially literate.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: proTECH77 on March 26, 2021, 05:05:54 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Yes, people can live without any one  be poor in a country, if the government can do those three things to their citizens:
• Education: If the government can make it possible for the citizens to experience free education in the country can eliminate poverty from the life of the citizens in the country.
• Employment: If the government can create free employment to all graduates and undergraduate in the country can stop people be poor in a country.
• economy : If the government can make it possible 247 economy pumping in the country can eliminate poverty in the country.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: illete on March 26, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
There's nothing outlandish legitimate arranging and endeavors can make it possible,and profoundly the world can be adjusted and there's no way the world will be without destitution since the sluggishness, destitute considering, conviction, insensible and need of shrewdness of a few individuals are the reason why they are destitute but the's plausibility of the world having moo rates of extraordinary destitution which can do by the government and add up to destitution can as it were be killed by each person.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 27, 2021, 04:18:10 AM
Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
I doubt that there is a country who do not experiencing any kind of poverty. What you just said is wrong because in those countries that you mentioned are also experiencing poverty. The balance of the world will fall if all of the persons are in the state of being rich. Poverty will be forever in this world. Many people doesn't aware that poverty is inherited. Which means it can be passed down from generations to generations. The truth is we cannot wipe out the poverty because there are some people who doesn't have enough characteristics to become middle class or rich but we can lessen the poverty rate by becoming financially literate.

Poverty is being used in a relative sense. Those people who are considered as poor in Switzerland or Japan will be considered as "super-rich" if they settle down in countries such as Mali or Niger. On the other hand, many of those who are considered as upper middle class in countries such as India and Nepal would be downgraded to "poor" if they settle down in Singapore or Hong Kong. Therefore I have a feeling that rather than measuring poverty among the individuals, it will be better to talk about poverty at a country level, after studying the net wealth and average salary of the citizens.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nicecrypto on March 27, 2021, 06:31:14 AM
Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
You just said that there are three classes of people in terms of Richness classification and you went ahead to list some countries where you think this three classes of people do not really exist? Do you really think the whole of the population of this countries because they are small compared to other countries have the same level of richness? They might not be poor based on the level or stranded when compared to other countries as some have already pointed out, but to me even in their country as long as we are going to classify bass on their own stranded then they will all fall into their different categories which could still be seen as the High, middle and lower where the lower level will be seen as poor in that country even though they might have access to basic amenities.  


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: adzino on March 27, 2021, 06:58:34 AM
There is no such thing as a perfect society where there are no poor people or people that suffers from poverty. The class differences will exist no matter what. The best we can do is reduce the differences between each other by providing external support. Even that "external support" won't make much difference. If they keep on receiving benefits from the government, chances are the people won't try to improve themselves any further and will forever be dependent on the government (tax payers money).
If everyone becomes equally rich, there won't be a balance. It is almost impossible to make a world where everyone is equally rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: pankowri on March 27, 2021, 04:38:23 PM
If the world is without poverty, there may be no humanity, no nature, no physical work, and so on. Because all of the low-level workers who live below the level of poverty are not always happy with their work but they are bonded by a shortage that's why they have to do high hard work like drivers, cleaners, sealers, constructors, etc. If this person can stay well without hard work, they will not continue this types of work and then the whole world will change as robotic themes


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: TheGreatPython on March 27, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
"Can" it be? Of course it can, there is actually enough man power to make sure that nobody is too poor, I am not talking about giving everyone a house and a car and food for life of whatever they want to eat and a pool and some high end tech gadgets bla bla bla, you get it I do not mean rich life.

I just mean if we are living in a world where people die because they do not have access to healthcare, food, shelter those are things we can actually cover right now but unfortunately people are too greedy so people who are doing fine do not want to share their situation with people who are much worse, hence we have people who have enough to pay for tens of millions of peoples food for a year with their yearly income but decline to even pay their fair share taxes let alone donate.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 28, 2021, 03:35:07 AM
You just said that there are three classes of people in terms of Richness classification and you went ahead to list some countries where you think this three classes of people do not really exist? Do you really think the whole of the population of this countries because they are small compared to other countries have the same level of richness? They might not be poor based on the level or stranded when compared to other countries as some have already pointed out, but to me even in their country as long as we are going to classify bass on their own stranded then they will all fall into their different categories which could still be seen as the High, middle and lower where the lower level will be seen as poor in that country even though they might have access to basic amenities.  

In a relative sense you can say that there are people in countries such as Switzerland and Singapore who are not as rich as the majority population. But even these are very comfortable as far as basic amenities (food, home ownership.etc) are concerned. You can call them as "lower class", but definitely not as "poor" as the former is more suitable to relative classification. On the other hand, in South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa, you can find that a majority of the population can't afford basic amenities. These people are the "real" poor class.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: vaultman on March 28, 2021, 01:35:45 PM
I think that this is the essence of the structure of the world system, that someone should be rich and someone poor. Without the poor, there will be no rich people, since the rich get richer at the expense of the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlisle1 on March 28, 2021, 01:51:02 PM
You just said that there are three classes of people in terms of Richness classification and you went ahead to list some countries where you think this three classes of people do not really exist? Do you really think the whole of the population of this countries because they are small compared to other countries have the same level of richness? They might not be poor based on the level or stranded when compared to other countries as some have already pointed out, but to me even in their country as long as we are going to classify bass on their own stranded then they will all fall into their different categories which could still be seen as the High, middle and lower where the lower level will be seen as poor in that country even though they might have access to basic amenities.  

In a relative sense you can say that there are people in countries such as Switzerland and Singapore who are not as rich as the majority population. But even these are very comfortable as far as basic amenities (food, home ownership.etc) are concerned. You can call them as "lower class", but definitely not as "poor" as the former is more suitable to relative classification. On the other hand, in South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa, you can find that a majority of the population can't afford basic amenities. These people are the "real" poor class.

Third world is what you called those people who are eating once a day, some are not even have that chance and really suffering.
There are some people who have the privilege's to enjoy the luxuries while there are more people that ain't even got something to place
in their tables, poverty is one of those many problems any government are facing all around the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Nhor1011 on March 28, 2021, 01:55:05 PM
I was thinking, if the world has no poverty maybe all people are just happy. There will be no crime, no thief, no illegal drugs, no one is hungry. But who will work? Maybe all people will work together and enjoy together.

But I am also thinking that,

It will not become balance if all people in the world are rich that's why poverty is always there so that those people at the lower level can work hard and the rich people pay them. You can see that people in the society is divided into a different level, there is a higher class, middle class, lower class, poor and poorest among the poor. And those different types of people has a different functions in our economy to make it balance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on March 28, 2021, 05:06:15 PM
The answer is extremely simple - NO! A world without poverty, or rather, without dividing society into "strata" with different levels of income and consumption, is NOT POSSIBLE!
People pronounce the word "poverty" considering it a PROBLEM, and this is a manifestation, a CONSEQUENCE of other processes. The problem goes much deeper than simply "unequal distribution of income among the population." Poverty is a collective manifestation of many problems - from ordinary human laziness or stupidity, to the structure of countries, the political system, religion and other characteristics of both the individual and society. Poverty is not evil or misfortune, evil and misfortune is to keep people in such conditions and not to correct this situation, coming up with excuses like a world conspiracy!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 28, 2021, 06:33:43 PM
The answer is extremely simple - NO! A world without poverty, or rather, without dividing society into "strata" with different levels of income and consumption, is NOT POSSIBLE!
People pronounce the word "poverty" considering it a PROBLEM, and this is a manifestation, a CONSEQUENCE of other processes. The problem goes much deeper than simply "unequal distribution of income among the population." Poverty is a collective manifestation of many problems - from ordinary human laziness or stupidity, to the structure of countries, the political system, religion and other characteristics of both the individual and society. Poverty is not evil or misfortune, evil and misfortune is to keep people in such conditions and not to correct this situation, coming up with excuses like a world conspiracy!
Well, I agree with you because some people are completely reliant on the government and can't even hold their own when accusing others in positions of power. Some citizens do not pay taxes but yet earn benefits from the government while doing nothing to change their condition. People will know what they need to get their lives to the top if they strive to understand and situation they are in. Some people quickly found that education can help them get out of poverty and that it can also help them find progress. If you don't do something to ascend to the upside, you'll remain on the downside, which is dumb because they don't care and will continue to depend on others.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 29, 2021, 03:36:12 AM
Third world is what you called those people who are eating once a day, some are not even have that chance and really suffering.
There are some people who have the privilege's to enjoy the luxuries while there are more people that ain't even got something to place
in their tables, poverty is one of those many problems any government are facing all around the world.

Either you have never visited a third world nation in your entire life, or you are living in the 1990s. There are poor people in third world nations, and there are lots of them (hundreds of millions). But there are very few who can't afford food twice a day. Times have changed and poverty is in decline, even in these third world nations. They may not be able to afford the luxuries, but at the same time most of them can afford the basic things such as food and electricity.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kittygalore on March 29, 2021, 05:12:01 AM
Either you have never visited a third world nation in your entire life, or you are living in the 1990s. There are poor people in third world nations, and there are lots of them (hundreds of millions). But there are very few who can't afford food twice a day. Times have changed and poverty is in decline, even in these third world nations. They may not be able to afford the luxuries, but at the same time most of them can afford the basic things such as food and electricity.
I think a third world country is considered as one in my opinion if the country has a high poverty rates, resource deficiency, high crime and corruption rates, wealth disparity is large and unstable finances. How can you say that poverty is declining? Are you working on surveys about the third world country to confirm that the poverty rate is declining? Why is in my country a lot of people in the poverty line can't afford those basic necessities that you are stating? Because according to this article (https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/10/07/covid-19-to-add-as-many-as-150-million-extreme-poor-by-2021) the poverty index for two years is 9.1 to 9.4 percent which is a considerable increase compared to 9.2 percent in 2017. This study (https://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats) also shows that 3 billion of people lives under 2.5 USD a day so is the poverty really declining? To answer the title, I would say that it can be solved but we have to move aside our differences and remove corruption in our governments and change the mentality of the masses but given that we haven't solved poverty for a long time, I don't think that we will be able to solve it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 29, 2021, 05:20:59 AM
Third world is what you called those people who are eating once a day, some are not even have that chance and really suffering.
There are some people who have the privilege's to enjoy the luxuries while there are more people that ain't even got something to place
in their tables, poverty is one of those many problems any government are facing all around the world.

I have to disagree with you  carlisle1 you clearly misrepresented what a third world nation is. Painting a image that a third world country is one where its citizens can afford a meal is very wrong and stereotyped. The term "third world" has been used too often to generalize developing countries particularly in Africa as being primitive and unable to cater for themselves. This is not true!! Countries in the third world are developing countries not underdeveloped. And with good management of resources a third world could easily develop. The difference between most developing countries and developed countries is basically three things; Management, Corruption, Vision


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 29, 2021, 07:55:07 AM
Who wouldn't like it?! that the world can be without poverty that everything can avail of anything they want to have in life, that every single needs can be met that each and every country can provide for what ever the needs of their country men but we all know that this is not true I wish its true, if only every is not only thinking of their needs and be fair and help one another, if only people is not greedy of money and fear of God.
The world would be in chaos if that happens. There is a order to everything. We would always have the Rich and the Poor and those in between. We have systems put in place to make sure of that. The Rich folks will always do all they can to maintain their wealth because they understand the power of money. They wont lose that power so easily. They invest wisely and impact the same knowledge and enthusiasm into their children. The same goes for the poor folks and its just an endless cycle


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bakasabo on March 29, 2021, 08:06:22 AM
If you substitute all people with robots and turn the whole world into a huge mechanism or conveyor, then the world would be without poverty. Because everyone will be equal and everyone will have its role and no goals.
If you take all money from everyone in the world and give everyone back equal amount, immediately, after first trade or exchange, someone will become richer than other and someone poorer. And with time, everything will get back to what is now. Because everyone is individual and has his own needs.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: galestorm on March 29, 2021, 10:22:21 AM
Unfortunately, poverty cant be solved that easily. It depends on those who are at the top whether they will solve this problem because they have the power and the resources to do so. The government doesnt seem to be doing anything to help the less fortunate. Though the government has given them relief goods and school supplies to aid them in the pursuit of knowledge, but none of the solutions provide a way to enable the poor to have a stable income. This is the sad reality that we live in, there is a saying that the poor become poorer and the rich become richer.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: WatchMaker on March 29, 2021, 03:26:39 PM
Unfortunately, poverty cant be solved that easily. It depends on those who are at the top whether they will solve this problem because they have the power and the resources to do so. The government doesnt seem to be doing anything to help the less fortunate. Though the government has given them relief goods and school supplies to aid them in the pursuit of knowledge, but none of the solutions provide a way to enable the poor to have a stable income. This is the sad reality that we live in, there is a saying that the poor become poorer and the rich become richer.

I don't think the world can ever be without poor people because the people have different levels of intelligence, knowledge, discipline, and background. That means, what Mr. A can achieve Mr. B can never achieve because of their different background, knowledge, discipline, intelligence, and more. Getting out of poverty is more complex than rocket science for an illiterate as he actually has zero plan for his life. If a man has zero plan for himself what do you expect?



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: sapnu on March 29, 2021, 04:06:18 PM
Greed will always be there on each and every generation which makes it impossible to have a world with no poverty. No matter what we say or do to convince others to give equally and fairly to everyone, they will still choose to side with greed. Also, being too lazy causes one to become poor and stay poor. Not everyone has the willpower to keep going in life amidst the obstacles they are facing and not everyone has the ability to stay motivated after experience lots of failures in their lives. Even if you would swear to end poverty in a country, it can never happen cause each individual are different. One may persevere while one is procrastinating, that's how it usually works.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bitgov on March 29, 2021, 11:10:24 PM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: lalabotax on March 29, 2021, 11:50:17 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I don't think so. There is always two think in opposites. There is health and sick,
it is poor and rich
there is old and young
and so on.

Poverty may be the condition where to let people try and struggle themself to make their life better, to thank their life, and also how they can be thankful about whatever the condition.
ANd wealth will be the way for people to thank that they are rich, not poor and in this way, they can really appreciate what everybody is struggling with.

Although rich and poor is likely the only status, but in fact, this status really means something very deep in our life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nicecrypto on March 30, 2021, 03:35:04 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.
I believe we will all try to bring up Ideas that when resolved, we can or may be able to solve this Poverty Issue but I still stand to disagree that there will always be poverty regardless of what we do. It is inevitable, it is the rule of life and what ever phrase we might us to qualify it. All your fingers are not equal and so is life. Even if we where to eradicate corruption, make every on educated  and the likes, every one still cannot earn the same and in that circle of classification, we will still have the richer one, the mid richer ones and the lower richer ones. Which means, the lower richer ones can still not afford what the higher richer ones can afford which still makes them poor in that circle.   


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on March 30, 2021, 03:40:12 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 30, 2021, 03:53:40 AM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I don't think so. There is always two think in opposites. There is health and sick,
it is poor and rich
there is old and young
and so on.

Poverty may be the condition where to let people try and struggle themself to make their life better, to thank their life, and also how they can be thankful about whatever the condition.
ANd wealth will be the way for people to thank that they are rich, not poor and in this way, they can really appreciate what everybody is struggling with.

Although rich and poor is likely the only status, but in fact, this status really means something very deep in our life.

It's not that binary 1 or 0 though, let's say if the world has only 2 people, 1 person owns the whole world and is very rich and the other person doesn't have that much wealth, but in the world with so much resources available, both the person can live a good life by having the basic necessities met like food, clothes, shelter, even if the person 2 may not be as wealthy as the first one and even if the first one is the king. Similarly, we in this world if can reproduce so much resources to feed and provide for every person of the world the basic necessities of human lives, all will be fundamentally happy, irrespective of their economic status :)


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DevilSlayer on March 30, 2021, 04:19:38 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.
The root of poverty is ignorance, a lot of people wanted themselves to be ignorant and it causes them to suffer in major poverty. Actually there are a lot of people who are saying that there is no opportunity in this world and that is why they expericing poverty but they are not just seeing it because they are not financial literate and they just want to stay in their ignorant lives. By studying ang allocating most of time to become financial literate, the world can change and the poverty rate may decrease. There are still some factors why poverty is happening like incometent government who keep corrupting and bullying their own citizens.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nicecrypto on March 30, 2021, 04:28:31 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.
The root of poverty is ignorance, a lot of people wanted themselves to be ignorant and it causes them to suffer in major poverty. Actually there are a lot of people who are saying that there is no opportunity in this world and that is why they expericing poverty but they are not just seeing it because they are not financial literate and they just want to stay in their ignorant lives. By studying ang allocating most of time to become financial literate, the world can change and the poverty rate may decrease. There are still some factors why poverty is happening like incometent government who keep corrupting and bullying their own citizens.
Decreased but not eradicated. The question was  "Can the world be without poverty" No, we could decrease the rate at which poverty is been experienced in the world but I still don't think that we will be able to completely eradicate poverty in the world. Every thing any one has pointed out here that will hinder poverty elimination will still be there for some reason. Some people will still not be educated, Some Government will still be corrupt and so on. So you see, it is a difficult task to Solve.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on March 30, 2021, 06:41:18 PM
The answer is extremely simple - NO! A world without poverty, or rather, without dividing society into "strata" with different levels of income and consumption, is NOT POSSIBLE!
People pronounce the word "poverty" considering it a PROBLEM, and this is a manifestation, a CONSEQUENCE of other processes. The problem goes much deeper than simply "unequal distribution of income among the population." Poverty is a collective manifestation of many problems - from ordinary human laziness or stupidity, to the structure of countries, the political system, religion and other characteristics of both the individual and society. Poverty is not evil or misfortune, evil and misfortune is to keep people in such conditions and not to correct this situation, coming up with excuses like a world conspiracy!
Well, I agree with you because some people are completely reliant on the government and can't even hold their own when accusing others in positions of power. Some citizens do not pay taxes but yet earn benefits from the government while doing nothing to change their condition. People will know what they need to get their lives to the top if they strive to understand and situation they are in. Some people quickly found that education can help them get out of poverty and that it can also help them find progress. If you don't do something to ascend to the upside, you'll remain on the downside, which is dumb because they don't care and will continue to depend on others.

Poverty is not in wallets, poverty is in our heads!
There is a concept - genetic poverty, it is a complex "disease", it is difficult to "cure". This requires knowledge, this requires perseverance, this requires an understanding of the processes around. Unfortunately, most of the so-called "poor" simply do not want to learn and change. You cannot wait for changes if you continue to do everything as before! You need to CHANGE! Learn, change, spend energy. But poor people tend to be very lazy and very afraid of change. Their ideology is better than $ 1 a day of guaranteed income for collecting secondary raw materials than long-term studies, finding their abilities, finding and realizing themselves, competing with others. But in any case - to moan about their poverty and what all those who are richer than him are bad.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 30, 2021, 06:48:19 PM
Poverty is not in wallets, poverty is in our heads!
There is a concept - genetic poverty, it is a complex "disease", it is difficult to "cure". This requires knowledge, this requires perseverance, this requires an understanding of the processes around. Unfortunately, most of the so-called "poor" simply do not want to learn and change. You cannot wait for changes if you continue to do everything as before! You need to CHANGE! Learn, change, spend energy. But poor people tend to be very lazy and very afraid of change. Their ideology is better than $ 1 a day of guaranteed income for collecting secondary raw materials than long-term studies, finding their abilities, finding and realizing themselves, competing with others. But in any case - to moan about their poverty and what all those who are richer than him are bad.

The politicians want them to live like that. I am from India and there are hundreds of millions out here who are dependent on government handouts. Nowadays, a large percentage of the government revenue is being spent on providing handouts (either in cash, or in the form of free electricity and other services). Those who receive these handouts make sure that their vote goes to the ruling party. It is like a never ending cycle.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: hahay on March 30, 2021, 07:01:36 PM
Poverty is not in wallets, poverty is in our heads!
There is a concept - genetic poverty, it is a complex "disease", it is difficult to "cure". This requires knowledge, this requires perseverance, this requires an understanding of the processes around. Unfortunately, most of the so-called "poor" simply do not want to learn and change. You cannot wait for changes if you continue to do everything as before! You need to CHANGE! Learn, change, spend energy. But poor people tend to be very lazy and very afraid of change. Their ideology is better than $ 1 a day of guaranteed income for collecting secondary raw materials than long-term studies, finding their abilities, finding and realizing themselves, competing with others. But in any case - to moan about their poverty and what all those who are richer than him are bad.

The politicians want them to live like that. I am from India and there are hundreds of millions out here who are dependent on government handouts. Nowadays, a large percentage of the government revenue is being spent on providing handouts (either in cash, or in the form of free electricity and other services). Those who receive these handouts make sure that their vote goes to the ruling party. It is like a never ending cycle.
It's bad but as if there's nothing else to do, when everything is difficult and there is no ability and determination to change and progress, then things like that will keep happening again and again. I personally don't always blame those who live in poverty for change because sometimes the lack of support makes them continue to fall, but if I look at what is happening with the government providing assistance in many ways then it is the full support of the government for many poor people can change and become more advanced in the future. But unfortunately, they don't have the awareness to change their own life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Fredomago on March 30, 2021, 07:16:51 PM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.
The root of poverty is ignorance, a lot of people wanted themselves to be ignorant and it causes them to suffer in major poverty. Actually there are a lot of people who are saying that there is no opportunity in this world and that is why they expericing poverty but they are not just seeing it because they are not financial literate and they just want to stay in their ignorant lives. By studying ang allocating most of time to become financial literate, the world can change and the poverty rate may decrease. There are still some factors why poverty is happening like incometent government who keep corrupting and bullying their own citizens.

Proper education indeed can bring good chance to lessen poverty, with knowledge people will able to find ways, we do have human intellect and if we enhance it we also increasing our chance to find what suited ways to develop passive sources of incomes, we can't denied the fact that part of poverty or very big part of poverty is due to governance, leaders who are there just to corrupt the system, minding their ownselves instead of serving people. If only they'll invest with proper educations, future generations will not suffer the same fate with what the current people are experiencing right now, especially to those third world places.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: just_Alice on March 30, 2021, 10:09:31 PM
That's an important topic to bring up. I personally think that everything in our world is relative and, as you said, there should be balance. And you can't just make everyone equal, so there'd be no poor - that's basically communism.
Rich people build their businesses and live off other people, many of which are middle or lower class.
Today's economy is built on the market and in the market, there's always competition. For everyone to have the ability to be rich there, ideally, should be as many varieties of products and services as there are people on Earth! However, what can be done is some sort of regulation against monopolies and multiple businesses. I mean, when there's a single person who runs several companies that distribute a lot of different products and this company is the highest competitor on the market - they're basically taking this niche from other potential people.

Although, I wouldn't support this kind of regulation. If there's a person who can run a business and is smart and competitive enough to win over the market in multiple fields - why should anyone restrict that? You want to be on the market and earn money - well go and try as hard as that person did, spend all of your time working, invest in your education, move on and win that place or die trying. That's what I think.

Nowadays all you need is the Internet and the brains. People have these excuses that they have no resources, no knowledge, no time, but most people are just lazy and that's why they're poor.
Of course, I can't deny that there are also people, who are born even without those little incoming resources like the Internet and can't even read. And that needs to change. But centuries ago the poverty was much more widespread, than nowadays, and education plays an important role here, so I think (hope) that eventually these people will rise to the level, where everything depends simply on their willingness to learn, advance, and achieve their goals.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Mr.right85 on March 30, 2021, 10:11:34 PM
Lol, a world without poverty, such a beautiful dream. What would we make of that world,,, naahhh, its never going to be possible. The fact that, different or even the same thing means different thing to different people is a limitation to wealth already, as poverty relies in your ideas. Your ability to convert your mind grown thought into value and in turn wealth that would elevate you in the society.
Very few people can do that and as such, the riches of the world will continue to be limited to those who can't. So, poverty isn't going anywhere. What we could wish for is a stable or fair life but that too is likely not to happen.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Slow death on April 22, 2021, 10:25:14 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.

in my country we are only 30 million people and in my country there is a lot of land where no one occupied, there is a lot of good land for agriculture, there is a lot of good land for animal husbandry, there is a lot of land for industries and there are a lot of rivers. so why is my country poor? my country is not poor because we are many people, on the contrary in my country we are still few people, we are poor because we have leaders without brains, bad and dictators.

I am against corruption, but I know that it is impossible to end corruption in Africa and in the world, but at least people have to have a limit when stealing from the people, if they stole little and developed the country creating good policies the people of my country would not super poor, they would have what to eat, the prices of things would be low prices

poverty will always exist but it is not extreme poverty that must exist... we have to fight extreme poverty


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Spaffin on April 22, 2021, 11:01:26 AM
To stop poverty, we must stop corruption first. All those countries who have highest rate of poverty have highest rate of corruption. See for instance, India, Somalia, Myanmar they have common enemy aka corruption.

Issues such as corruption, ethnic and religious violence, illiteracy.etc stems from the same root cause. Until we tackle the root cause, poverty will exist in this world. I am talking about overpopulation. The planet is currently supporting 7.5 billion humans, although it has the capability to support only a fraction of that many people. There are not enough natural resources to keep everyone wealthy and therefore poverty is increasing. The largest reduction in poverty has been noticed in countries such as China, where strict population planning policies were implemented.
Undoubtedly, not everyone can be rich, but nevertheless everyone can be well-fed and dressed. One has only to pay attention to the statistics, how many different raw materials and products are utilized every year, and all this could satisfy all the needs of people in poor countries. I believe that you do not need to take an example somewhere far away, but pay attention only to the fact how much each person buys products in the store, and how much he then throws them away as unnecessary. Most people live and only spoil a significant part of the resources without using them. The same applies to electricity, heat and water. But most of all, the unprofessional government and big tycoons are to blame for this, who in any way are looking for opportunities to make money, and they do not care about people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Princejebs on April 22, 2021, 08:09:36 PM
There is this street statement I often hear, here in my country "life no balance" meaning life is not balance. There is always the other end who don't get favour due to its nature and how human is program to work in democratic system and capitalism.
Poverty can be reduce to minimal but cannot be fully eradicate, there is always people on the other end who always lack somethings that are either limited or very limited to their environment.
The world cannot live without poverty, that's the sad truth.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ice098 on April 23, 2021, 04:34:28 PM
Lol, a world without poverty, such a beautiful dream. What would we make of that world,,, naahhh, its never going to be possible. The fact that, different or even the same thing means different thing to different people is a limitation to wealth already, as poverty relies in your ideas. Your ability to convert your mind grown thought into value and in turn wealth that would elevate you in the society.
Very few people can do that and as such, the riches of the world will continue to be limited to those who can't. So, poverty isn't going anywhere. What we could wish for is a stable or fair life but that too is likely not to happen.

Personally I was also asking why life was so unfair, I mean why there must be someone who can have a life with the previlege or simply super rich, rich and the lowest was the poor. Dreaming the world without poverty was a total in dream could only be happen because whatever may see life in any aspects and in any angle the economy of the world was designed to have a rich and poor aspects of life. So we as a person could only do was to improve our life, and improve our skills to elevate the aspect of our life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: blue_nexus15 on April 23, 2021, 04:53:40 PM

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There is no fairness in this life.  The scenario happens every day, often and is also the contradiction between the world, status, class, race, rich and poor ... I meet it every day when I go to student, even when I am  Existing work also encounters similar problems.  It is not uncommon in life in my country.  There is no integrity, and that widens the rich / poor gap!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on April 23, 2021, 05:02:00 PM
Lol, a world without poverty, such a beautiful dream. What would we make of that world,,, naahhh, its never going to be possible. The fact that, different or even the same thing means different thing to different people is a limitation to wealth already, as poverty relies in your ideas. Your ability to convert your mind grown thought into value and in turn wealth that would elevate you in the society.
Very few people can do that and as such, the riches of the world will continue to be limited to those who can't. So, poverty isn't going anywhere. What we could wish for is a stable or fair life but that too is likely not to happen.

Personally I was also asking why life was so unfair, I mean why there must be someone who can have a life with the previlege or simply super rich, rich and the lowest was the poor. Dreaming the world without poverty was a total in dream could only be happen because whatever may see life in any aspects and in any angle the economy of the world was designed to have a rich and poor aspects of life. So we as a person could only do was to improve our life, and improve our skills to elevate the aspect of our life.
- Well, if you have understood such injustice, why do so many people not break this rule and become owners of society, this means why the poor do not overthrow this injustice and become rich then help others. The reason is they can't, they like rich dreams but they don't work and are just lazy, besides this problem, our lives rarely have acts of fair sharing, a small part to help in difficulty is possible but a part of wealth to help others be rich is impossible, poverty has a huge impact on effort, not wanting poverty will be effort


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Natty1000 on April 23, 2021, 07:00:57 PM
    Yes, the world can really be without poverty..
From a proper view of life, no one is meant to be poor, but if life chooses to favour someone before the other, a helping hand, not just a helping hand but an avenue where the poor can benefit from should be given from he that is reach to those that are not up to the standard worth Calling good life..
   Aside that, for a poverty to be taken away good governance should be established. Cause,Where there is a balance in allocation, there must also be a good standard of living for all levels of individual...


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: semobo on April 23, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
Yes it is possible but nor really possible in the practical life.

Why people are poor because they don't have money so they need to start working and anyone can work even though completely paralyzed people made money with their brilliance so anything is possible.

Then they need to multiply the money they made or else they have to keep working forever to keep their income source.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BuNga_cute on April 23, 2021, 10:08:14 PM
Lol, a world without poverty, such a beautiful dream. What would we make of that world,,, naahhh, its never going to be possible. The fact that, different or even the same thing means different thing to different people is a limitation to wealth already, as poverty relies in your ideas. Your ability to convert your mind grown thought into value and in turn wealth that would elevate you in the society.
Very few people can do that and as such, the riches of the world will continue to be limited to those who can't. So, poverty isn't going anywhere. What we could wish for is a stable or fair life but that too is likely not to happen.
Personally I was also asking why life was so unfair, I mean why there must be someone who can have a life with the previlege or simply super rich, rich and the lowest was the poor. Dreaming the world without poverty was a total in dream could only be happen because whatever may see life in any aspects and in any angle the economy of the world was designed to have a rich and poor aspects of life. So we as a person could only do was to improve our life, and improve our skills to elevate the aspect of our life.

I agree that a world without poverty is only imaginary, because after all the reality of life there is poverty and it cannot be eliminated.
Poverty will always exist, but what is interesting is that not all poor people will always be poor, as well as the rich. Not all rich people will
become rich forever, sometimes people's fate can change. Depending on how we live, that's why many people work hard to make money,
because they don't want to be poor.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: awik p on April 24, 2021, 02:42:45 AM
Yes it is possible but nor really possible in the practical life.

Why people are poor because they don't have money so they need to start working and anyone can work even though completely paralyzed people made money with their brilliance so anything is possible.

Then they need to multiply the money they made or else they have to keep working forever to keep their income source.
besides that everyone has their own thoughts. therefore I don't think there are lazy people who are rich, while lazy people must be in life. On the other hand, of course there are people who have an unfortunate fate in terms of the economy, so that even in developed countries there must be poor people, even though the number may be pressured by the government.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on April 24, 2021, 03:54:13 AM
besides that everyone has their own thoughts. therefore I don't think there are lazy people who are rich, while lazy people must be in life. On the other hand, of course there are people who have an unfortunate fate in terms of the economy, so that even in developed countries there must be poor people, even though the number may be pressured by the government.

It depends on how you classify "poor" people. Obviously there are people whose financial condition can be classified as "lower class" in rich countries such as Japan and Switzerland. But the irony is that the living condition of these people may be much better than the "middle class" who live in countries such as India and Indonesia. I guess the global cutoff for extreme poverty is $2 per day. In North America and Europe, I don't think that there'll be anyone who earns less than this amount (child benefits alone amount to $250 per month in the US).


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Xinarae* on April 24, 2021, 04:57:32 AM
These situations create and lead to atrocities and crimes as well as illnesses and other unwanted side effects at a higher rate. The huge disparity between rich and poor in these countries is that those who become rich in this region are in the minority it can lead rich people and their families to more goals and isolation for violence a weak economy and people combined with national problems and issues and the lack of institutions give rise to a lot of tension and strife between the ultimate poor and rich people. The country may not always have the resources it needs to pull itself out of poverty into the middle ground.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Zilon on April 24, 2021, 08:40:52 AM
  I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.
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Lack of knowledge, inadequate circulation of information and laziness have landed a whole lot in a abject poverty. It is increasing the number of poor citizens across nations
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Yes I believe there is a way people can live without poverty if open up investment opportunities to people. Help people fund their dreams and also educate people about different skill acquisition preferably online trading in general


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: semobo on April 24, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
Yes it is possible but nor really possible in the practical life.

Why people are poor because they don't have money so they need to start working and anyone can work even though completely paralyzed people made money with their brilliance so anything is possible.

Then they need to multiply the money they made or else they have to keep working forever to keep their income source.
besides that everyone has their own thoughts. therefore I don't think there are lazy people who are rich, while lazy people must be in life. On the other hand, of course there are people who have an unfortunate fate in terms of the economy, so that even in developed countries there must be poor people, even though the number may be pressured by the government.
Yeah some people failed to hold their assets even after making them due to their poor financial management skills so these things are not possible over night, it need to be taught from their childhood and may take two or three generation to pass the knowledge they gathered from their experiences and make no people living in the poverty anymore.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: imstillthebest on April 24, 2021, 03:33:19 PM
 I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.
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Lack of knowledge, inadequate circulation of information and laziness have landed a whole lot in a abject poverty. It is increasing the number of poor citizens across nations

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Yes I believe there is a way people can live without poverty if open up investment opportunities to people. Help people fund their dreams and also educate people about different skill acquisition preferably online trading in general
government has the same program .
it help many poor people but it didnt made the whole nation rich because of lazy people that choose to live the life they want but it was thier problem anymore  . there are countries that lack of funding for this project .
 if we are going to be succesful soon in cryptocurrency we can help the government that ineed and we can also run our own program in our own place .


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Obito on April 25, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
I do believe that the world can be without a poverty because billionaires all over the world have enough money to solve the problem itself and the only asking price is about a small percentage of their wealth but considering how humans are inanely selfish,I don't think that we are going to solve poverty, not to mention that we keep putting incompetent, power hungry and senile leaders in our government, we won't be seeing a world without poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: FIFA worldcup on April 25, 2021, 11:54:31 AM
I do believe that the world can be without a poverty because billionaires all over the world have enough money to solve the problem itself and the only asking price is about a small percentage of their wealth but considering how humans are inanely selfish,I don't think that we are going to solve poverty, not to mention that we keep putting incompetent, power hungry and senile leaders in our government, we won't be seeing a world without poverty.

The billionaires will not want that whole world to become rich. If everyone has the money, then the rich will have no value. There will be no one willing to do small jobs. The world system is running because there are few rich people and few poor people. If all of the people become rich, it will be difficult to live in the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Obito on April 25, 2021, 12:00:29 PM
~snip
The billionaires will not want that whole world to become rich. If everyone has the money, then the rich will have no value. There will be no one willing to do small jobs. The world system is running because there are few rich people and few poor people. If all of the people become rich, it will be difficult to live in the world.
That's a toxic way of thinking because not everyone wants to be rich, a lot of people are content that they have a daily bread and have a little surplus, it's not like everyone is trying to get to the top, some are happy to be somewhere where they don't have to sleep off the hunger. Isn't that too much too ask? If they continue with this mindset, we are going to not see a lot of advancement in different fields because somewhere out there, some of the people that had a potential to change the world has died of hunger.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Fredomago on April 25, 2021, 12:25:06 PM
~snip
The billionaires will not want that whole world to become rich. If everyone has the money, then the rich will have no value. There will be no one willing to do small jobs. The world system is running because there are few rich people and few poor people. If all of the people become rich, it will be difficult to live in the world.
That's a toxic way of thinking because not everyone wants to be rich, a lot of people are content that they have a daily bread and have a little surplus, it's not like everyone is trying to get to the top, some are happy to be somewhere where they don't have to sleep off the hunger. Isn't that too much too ask? If they continue with this mindset, we are going to not see a lot of advancement in different fields because somewhere out there, some of the people that had a potential to change the world has died of hunger.

Sad realities but we do embrace that for the longest years and years to come, I get your point, there are people who are not really aiming to go at the top, they are content having enough foods in their tables and if they've got some extra they are happy using it to have some fun.

Those wealthy people indeed will still have enough spares even they'll share their wealth to everyone, come to think of Musk and Gates entire wealth, Even just a half of those   wealth divided to every poor families poverty is easily resolved. Billions of dollars from Musk and Gates against the 7.9 billion people of the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Obito on April 25, 2021, 12:44:35 PM
~snip
Sad realities but we do embrace that for the longest years and years to come, I get your point, there are people who are not really aiming to go at the top, they are content having enough foods in their tables and if they've got some extra they are happy using it to have some fun.

Those wealthy people indeed will still have enough spares even they'll share their wealth to everyone, come to think of Musk and Gates entire wealth, Even just a half of those   wealth divided to every poor families poverty is easily resolved. Billions of dollars from Musk and Gates against the 7.9 billion people of the world.
We really don't have to embrace these avoidable sad reality because if people just have the initiative to do what hasn't been done before, many people will follow suit. I admire Gates because he did an initiative to gather billionaires but to no avail because almost all of them are greedy and power hungry bastards. If only these people are altruistic egotistic then we could probably save the world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on April 25, 2021, 12:46:22 PM
I do believe that the world can be without a poverty because billionaires all over the world have enough money to solve the problem itself and the only asking price is about a small percentage of their wealth but considering how humans are inanely selfish,I don't think that we are going to solve poverty, not to mention that we keep putting incompetent, power hungry and senile leaders in our government, we won't be seeing a world without poverty.

The billionaires will not want that whole world to become rich. If everyone has the money, then the rich will have no value. There will be no one willing to do small jobs. The world system is running because there are few rich people and few poor people. If all of the people become rich, it will be difficult to live in the world.

You fantasize a little. In fact, the reality is that everyone will not be rich, because most of the population is lazy and cowardly enough to create their own business! Most are not ready to work 20 hours a day, suffering losses and learning from their mistakes, sometimes sitting in debt for years but going towards the goal, realizing that there are no guarantees! Many people find it easier to go to work, being "behind" the owner, where the owner will be guaranteed to pay you some rate, depending on your competence - from a room cleaner to an executive director. But there are no risks and no particular difficulties! Therefore, there will never be 100% rich in the world. wealth is a very difficult path with a non-guaranteed result!
An example from life. We, like in any other country, have "homeless people". It would seem that there is no housing, no income ... Around my house, after it was put into operation, there was construction waste, and it was necessary to clean up the adjacent territory. Well, I think - now I will solve two problems - I will help put things in order around, and give people (homeless people) the opportunity to earn money. Do you know what these "unfortunate unemployed" responded to me? "F..k you ! I will not work, even for money. Just give me money, you have a lot of it!"
There is a concept - "genetic poverty" and "genetic laziness". This is another argument towards the stratification of society.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: capcaypro on April 25, 2021, 02:09:41 PM
this is a very difficult challenge faced by many countries today.
In fact, if we see that today there are so many intelligent people from all over the world and they should have made a breakthrough so that the world is free from poverty.
but if this happens the world will become unstable because if everyone becomes rich, of course no one in this world wants to work and no one wants to be someone's subordinate because he has become rich. Besides that the government also cannot control the stability of the country if everyone gets rich so it will be chaotic I think.
Therefore, in order for the ruling and ruling hierarchy to remain stable, poverty will not be resolved at any time because the rich and the rulers will still need the poor as messengers.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: lienfaye on April 25, 2021, 02:19:23 PM
but if this happens the world will become unstable because if everyone becomes rich, of course no one in this world wants to work and no one wants to be someone's subordinate because he has become rich.
Thats why its not possible to happen because everything should be balance.

If everyone is rich who will be the workers? No one will step down to work if they're capable to live a better life, thus if you're not rich and below average just keep striving.

Its not your fault to be born as poor, but its already your fault if you die poor because you can do something to lift your life and that is by working hard.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: kamotharnn on April 25, 2021, 02:54:29 PM
but if this happens the world will become unstable because if everyone becomes rich, of course no one in this world wants to work and no one wants to be someone's subordinate because he has become rich.
Thats why its not possible to happen because everything should be balance.

If everyone is rich who will be the workers? No one will step down to work if they're capable to live a better life, thus if you're not rich and below average just keep striving.

Its not your fault to be born as poor, but its already your fault if you die poor because you can do something to lift your life and that is by working hard.
I understand your point. The age of technology gives us endless opportunities to get out of being poor and instead of blaming the government or the billionaires, we should start working and finding chances that can make us wealthier

In the last 2 decades, we have witessed the high number of new self-made millionaires and billionaires who work hard and dedicate to their idealism. The belief and the efforts make them become a monster in our world


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: CaCO3 on April 25, 2021, 03:06:32 PM
Are you saying that if there are no poor people in the world, that is, if everyone is rich, then the balance of the world economy will be right?  I think the balance of the economy will be right if everyone does their own thing.  If one is not dependent on anyone then there will be no class of rich poor.  Everyone will be able to live shoulder to shoulder in the world if everyone's mindset is helpful.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on April 25, 2021, 03:50:34 PM
The world without poverty is more like the world without social stratification. What a better world it would have been but sadly, this is never going to be a reality. There are a lot that could hinder this and it doesn't end just with the rich doing there best to ensure things stay the way it is, for the poor to remain poor while the rich grow richer but then, the ideas of a person is already a limitation that encourages these divisions in status to exist.

Not to even talk of the fact that, its justifiable by some religion. Where the poor once in the society is encouraged to serve the rich and be poor on earth for there wealth is on the rise in the spirit realm or with there maker. So, poverty is a part of human existence, the best way to fight it is individually and being contented.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Dilerium90 on April 25, 2021, 05:23:52 PM
In my opinion, human nature is so arranged, that it cannot do something without struggle, domination and humiliation. Culture helps us to pacify the animal inside human. But there will always be poverty, because the main resources will always in hands people, who smarter, brazen, savvy and faster.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Alisha-k on April 25, 2021, 06:14:57 PM
Although poverty is said to be the state of the mind. Working on ones inner self and self worth is the first prerequisite to conquer poverty of the first before the outward result of wealth begins. Although most influential category tries to limit the masses and also enjoys seeing the poor suffer.

Individuals should know what the want from life first then go for it no matter what it would cost them. Life has never been fair from the onset. We only set a path we wish to follow for ourselves


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on April 27, 2021, 10:28:38 AM
If we look back when our ancestors still lived a nomadic life. their social status is equal. no one is rich and no one is poor. each individual does work by the expertise to get food (survival) and each result is divided fairly according to their respective needs.

If today every country and government has a fair lifestyle, I believe there will be no more poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Miike on April 27, 2021, 09:20:20 PM
Very impossible, because even the Good book talks about it that even as the earth existed that there will always be less privileged, poor and needy among nations and that is why God placed them in the midst of you and i so we can do our little best  to put a smaile on their faces as well


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: dimox on April 28, 2021, 01:03:00 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

sometimes, the lazy one can make good living. with good or bad act that can make the laziness got profit. and you can see, there are many hardwork man try the best as they can, but still have none. sometime, people need the other privilege, so they can make a good life.

to make it balance, the world create poor and the rich one. we cant deny it, people just to select which way is better for them by working hard.

many people hate to see poor man, because they hard to live the life. and the good think is, if you have more needs, you can give them as much as you can. just to help live a life for days or week.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: mamahdedeh on April 28, 2021, 02:54:42 AM
If we look back when our ancestors still lived a nomadic life. their social status is equal. no one is rich and no one is poor. each individual does work by the expertise to get food (survival) and each result is divided fairly according to their respective needs.

If today every country and government has a fair lifestyle, I believe there will be no more poverty.
in my country such a system seems less suitable, where nowadays there are always the rich and the poor. the rich will need the power of the poor, and vice versa the poor will need help from the rich. Even though the government itself will look after the poor, I don't think it's very effective, where in the end we ourselves have to fight for our own welfare.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on April 28, 2021, 04:52:47 AM
in my country such a system seems less suitable, where nowadays there are always the rich and the poor. the rich will need the power of the poor, and vice versa the poor will need help from the rich. Even though the government itself will look after the poor, I don't think it's very effective, where in the end we ourselves have to fight for our own welfare.

From what I have seen, many of the poor people have a sense of hatred towards the rich (i.e successful people). They believe that the rich people are responsible for their suffering and the resources should be shared in a more equitable way. I don't find their views very appealing. If they want to get out of poverty, then they need to work hard rather than showing hatred for people who have been successful in life. After all, only the rich people are paying taxes and these taxes are in turn used for providing handouts and free education/medical care for the poor people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on April 28, 2021, 06:20:38 AM
in my country such a system seems less suitable, where nowadays there are always the rich and the poor. the rich will need the power of the poor, and vice versa the poor will need help from the rich. Even though the government itself will look after the poor, I don't think it's very effective, where in the end we ourselves have to fight for our own welfare.

From what I have seen, many of the poor people have a sense of hatred towards the rich (i.e successful people). They believe that the rich people are responsible for their suffering and the resources should be shared in a more equitable way. I don't find their views very appealing. If they want to get out of poverty, then they need to work hard rather than showing hatred for people who have been successful in life. After all, only the rich people are paying taxes and these taxes are in turn used for providing handouts and free education/medical care for the poor people.
Not like that. the poor don't hate all the rich. in my view, the rich are divided into 2 groups:

first: the ruling elite (government, politicians, and the country)
second: business elite (successful traders, business people, and investors)

the business elite has paid taxes to the ruler. but the ruler does not do justice. they corrupt the tax returns and income of business people and do not give it to the poor.

so, the poor usually hate the country and the government. usually, this happens in Asian countries. I rarely find poor people hating business people because business people still care about poverty. but the state and the government are not like that.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: slashz9 on April 28, 2021, 08:32:34 AM
Poor in what sense, do they look very sad and very difficult to pay for their daily lives or are they poor because they cannot follow the standards of the rich category? I guess everything has levels so if everyone can make ends meet and it's not too difficult to make money I guess that's standard even though they don't have luxury goods or many assets.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ucy on April 28, 2021, 09:20:24 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

sometimes, the lazy one can make good living. with good or bad act that can make the laziness got profit. and you can see, there are many hardwork man try the best as they can, but still have none. sometime, people need the other privilege, so they can make a good life.

to make it balance, the world create poor and the rich one. we cant deny it, people just to select which way is better for them by working hard.

many people hate to see poor man, because they hard to live the life. and the good think is, if you have more needs, you can give them as much as you can. just to help live a life for days or week.





The truth is money gotten immorally cannot be counted as riches. I would just focus on the contributions of every individual to society/people and how the contributions have help society without too much negative consequences.   I believe there are lots of people who work for free or people who get paid below the actual price of the good work they do.   



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: grabpopcorn536 on April 28, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
When I think about poverty and the poor, there are many connections.
The poor take the form of incapable of working, low-income workers who have additional obligations to support other family members.
The cause of poverty comes from subjective and objective circumstances.
Subjective circumstances: laziness, enjoyment, low education, low level of labor, ability to communicate.
Objective circumstances: National policy, burdened with feeding more family members, incapacitation due to accidents, birth defects, underemployment, epidemics, food problems nation. The above problems come from a specific country. Each country has a distinct difference if you try to compare a few countries of the world.
Poverty and the poor always appear and standards vary from country to country. I firmly believe that the poor exist for the reasons I have listed above.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 29, 2021, 11:56:19 AM
When I think about poverty and the poor, there are many connections.
The poor take the form of incapable of working, low-income workers who have additional obligations to support other family members.
The cause of poverty comes from subjective and objective circumstances.
Subjective circumstances: laziness, enjoyment, low education, low level of labor, ability to communicate.
Objective circumstances: National policy, burdened with feeding more family members, incapacitation due to accidents, birth defects, underemployment, epidemics, food problems nation. The above problems come from a specific country. Each country has a distinct difference if you try to compare a few countries of the world.
Poverty and the poor always appear and standards vary from country to country. I firmly believe that the poor exist for the reasons I have listed above.
I agree with what you've stated. We won't be able to eradicate poverty in any society because it will still exist, regardless of the government's policies.

And, besides, poor people were there to keep the environment in balance; if we're all wealthy, who would make progress, particularly in agriculture, because we have no one to rely on? No one can employ to make the system full and profitable, so rich people can't start a business.

It's human nature for some people to want to be above and to govern, to fulfill their needs by the use of other people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: giantrobot on April 29, 2021, 03:55:02 PM
We believe the world will not have poverty. It was a dream about a warm life. Truth, every country has rich and poor people. If you are rich as a charity or share, help others so that the world is no longer the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: wahyu wida on April 30, 2021, 02:57:53 PM
When I think about poverty and the poor, there are many connections.
The poor take the form of incapable of working, low-income workers who have additional obligations to support other family members.
The cause of poverty comes from subjective and objective circumstances.
Subjective circumstances: laziness, enjoyment, low education, low level of labor, ability to communicate.
Objective circumstances: National policy, burdened with feeding more family members, incapacitation due to accidents, birth defects, underemployment, epidemics, food problems nation. The above problems come from a specific country. Each country has a distinct difference if you try to compare a few countries of the world.
Poverty and the poor always appear and standards vary from country to country. I firmly believe that the poor exist for the reasons I have listed above.
I agree with what you've stated. We won't be able to eradicate poverty in any society because it will still exist, regardless of the government's policies.

And, besides, poor people were there to keep the environment in balance; if we're all wealthy, who would make progress, particularly in agriculture, because we have no one to rely on? No one can employ to make the system full and profitable, so rich people can't start a business.

It's human nature for some people to want to be above and to govern, to fulfill their needs by the use of other people.
no human being can fulfill his own needs, with the existence of various levels of human social strata, there will be mutual need for each other. and I think it is very difficult to bring every society to the same level. although the government tries to equalize it but in practice it is very difficult, even in developed countries


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: macson on May 01, 2021, 03:46:48 PM
a world without poverty is impossible....the fate, fortunes, intelligence, confidence and hard work of everyone are different.  

We believe the world will not have poverty. It was a dream about a warm life. Truth, every country has rich and poor people. If you are rich as a charity or share, help others so that the world is no longer the poor.
poverty is one of the products produced by the world, we cannot help every poor person with the money we have because it will only make it difficult for us.  i agree more with the wise words that say "to the rich, it is better to give fishing rods (work) than fish (money or food) to the poor"


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: FIFA worldcup on May 02, 2021, 08:31:51 AM
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The billionaires will not want that whole world to become rich. If everyone has the money, then the rich will have no value. There will be no one willing to do small jobs. The world system is running because there are few rich people and few poor people. If all of the people become rich, it will be difficult to live in the world.
That's a toxic way of thinking because not everyone wants to be rich, a lot of people are content that they have a daily bread and have a little surplus, it's not like everyone is trying to get to the top, some are happy to be somewhere where they don't have to sleep off the hunger. Isn't that too much too ask? If they continue with this mindset, we are going to not see a lot of advancement in different fields because somewhere out there, some of the people that had a potential to change the world has died of hunger.

Everyone will and should try to get rich (as we are already doing and working every day) but not everyone can reach the same height of richness and some will remain poor or even become more poorer. That's how nature wants us to be in order to run the system of the world. You may call it toxic but its a sad reality.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tabas on May 02, 2021, 09:51:08 AM
If everyone starts to learn about agriculture or backyard farming, even being jobless, they won't be hungry and will have something to put on their table. Yes, they might be jobless but they won't be poor because they can still provide for themselves. But the dream of having the world to have a zero poverty rate, I doubt it to happen but that's a very good thought from an individual.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on May 03, 2021, 09:29:29 AM
a world without poverty is impossible....the fate, fortunes, intelligence, confidence and hard work of everyone are different.  

We believe the world will not have poverty. It was a dream about a warm life. Truth, every country has rich and poor people. If you are rich as a charity or share, help others so that the world is no longer the poor.
poverty is one of the products produced by the world, we cannot help every poor person with the money we have because it will only make it difficult for us.  i agree more with the wise words that say "to the rich, it is better to give fishing rods (work) than fish (money or food) to the poor"

You have to be realistic and objectively assess the situation, and take into account that very often the "disadvantaged", the "poor" do not want to try to change their lives on their own, they believe that the rich are obliged to share with them, and give them not a fishing rod, but just fish, and do it constantly because "they are rich and I am poor and unhappy." Try to offer "homeless people" not to ask and collect handouts, but for example to start working - most likely they will scold you and refuse to work.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Argoo on June 11, 2021, 11:20:16 AM
Poverty primarily means the lack of the necessary material well-being: food, clothing, normal housing, as well as other material wealth and luxury goods. In our world, poverty has been at all times and it seems that this problem will persist for the foreseeable future. We are still at a very low stage in the development of science and technology, the necessary technologies that would provide people with these material benefits. In principle, people are to blame for this themselves, constant wars lead to the destruction of a significant part of material wealth and technology. It remains to be hoped that someday humanity will grow up.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Rruchi man on June 11, 2021, 01:05:55 PM
Technically, another way to rephrase this question is "Can everyone be rich?", or "Can poor people be completely eliminated from the society?".
In my opinion, i don't see it as ever being possible, because first the Rich and the Poor are two sides of a coin both bringing balance to what we call society.

Secondly, the state of being rich means having plenty that is in comparison with another person's own and as far as it goes, a set of persons in society will always have more than another set if persons.

So it will be very difficult even near impossible for the world to be without poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on June 11, 2021, 03:00:58 PM
Poverty primarily means the lack of the necessary material well-being: food, clothing, normal housing, as well as other material wealth and luxury goods. In our world, poverty has been at all times and it seems that this problem will persist for the foreseeable future. We are still at a very low stage in the development of science and technology, the necessary technologies that would provide people with these material benefits. In principle, people are to blame for this themselves, constant wars lead to the destruction of a significant part of material wealth and technology. It remains to be hoped that someday humanity will grow up.
- Wars around the world in the past probably affected many generations behind, quite a few generations have become backward and underdeveloped in science and knowledge, the governments of countries are also working to improve such lands but there are quite a few reasons that make their efforts go to waste because the cooperation of the people in the poor lands is not so great, they like the life of nature and wild. Even if we stop these actions, they will also try to escape, the world will also produce more generations of poverty in this style


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: iv4n on June 11, 2021, 03:23:18 PM
Technically, another way to rephrase this question is "Can everyone be rich?", or "Can poor people be completely eliminated from the society?".
In my opinion, i don't see it as ever being possible, because first the Rich and the Poor are two sides of a coin both bringing balance to what we call society.

Then we are just animals! And the wolf will always eat the sheep!

Of course, this world can be without poverty! But that to happen, people, all people have to be at some higher levels of awareness! That to happen we need some miracles, and I don't see that this can happen in my lifetime... maybe some future generations will be a lot smarter... at least I hope for that! Because this now is shit, and probably it was shit before... and we need some changes, world needs some changes if we wish our kids and grandkids to live in some "normal" world!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Wayan_Pedjeng on June 12, 2021, 04:58:32 AM
There can be two scenarios. In capitalist system, we will be having 3 classes of people - around 5% who are rich, another 90% who are in the middle-class with a relatively comfortable style of living, and then the remaining 5% comprised of "poor" people. The in socialist system we will have only two classes of people - 1% of the population will be ultra-rich (mostly the ruling elite) and then the remaining 99% of the people will be poor. It is up to the people to chose which system they want in their country.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: andriarto on June 12, 2021, 04:17:31 PM
There can be two scenarios. In capitalist system, we will be having 3 classes of people - around 5% who are rich, another 90% who are in the middle-class with a relatively comfortable style of living, and then the remaining 5% comprised of "poor" people. The in socialist system we will have only two classes of people - 1% of the population will be ultra-rich (mostly the ruling elite) and then the remaining 99% of the people will be poor. It is up to the people to chose which system they want in their country.
I see. indeed it cannot be separated from the point of view of the government officials who set it. in my country using a capitalist system, which means it is impossible to eliminate the poor, the poor will always exist due to inequality. Even though the state has guaranteed it in the law, the evidence is that until now there are always poor people, and the number can only be reduced


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tabas on June 12, 2021, 05:53:17 PM
There can be two scenarios. In capitalist system, we will be having 3 classes of people - around 5% who are rich, another 90% who are in the middle-class with a relatively comfortable style of living, and then the remaining 5% comprised of "poor" people. The in socialist system we will have only two classes of people - 1% of the population will be ultra-rich (mostly the ruling elite) and then the remaining 99% of the people will be poor. It is up to the people to chose which system they want in their country.
The people cannot choose the system that they want to get in. It is the society that will choose the people who's in and out. This is the sad reality, even if you're trying hard and working at your best.
There's inequality that can be found in the social status of everyone. But if you're living in a fair system, whether you'll be the rich guy, middle class or poor guy. As long as there's an equal share for opportunity, that would be the ideal system.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Princejebs on June 12, 2021, 11:38:32 PM
We believe the world will not have poverty. It was a dream about a warm life. Truth, every country has rich and poor people. If you are rich as a charity or share, help others so that the world is no longer the poor.

I think being rich and poor is a standard created by man to different between people and it has become a natural phenomenon that we have all been living with that has created division among humanity.
Been reach or poor also depends on country as you have said. Mr A might think he or she is rich in country A but when compare to country B with another rich person, he/she may be power because of inflation and exchange rate.
Rich or poor is something that will stay until the earth fold up over time.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Mondiba on June 13, 2021, 01:20:47 PM
Yes, absolutely yes. Poverty to me is the state of the mind. Poverty is not impose on any individual but accepted by an individual by desire.
Equal right was given to all at birth but environmental factors will alway play a vital role at every point of growth in the life of every individual. Being poor does not mean not having much money because money is not happines but not finding happines is poverty.
Hence everybody can be rich if and only we realize that lack of money is not poverty but  lack of happiness is poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2021, 01:41:27 PM
The people cannot choose the system that they want to get in. It is the society that will choose the people who's in and out. This is the sad reality, even if you're trying hard and working at your best.
There's inequality that can be found in the social status of everyone. But if you're living in a fair system, whether you'll be the rich guy, middle class or poor guy. As long as there's an equal share for opportunity, that would be the ideal system.

That is obvious. If you are staying in a capitalist country such as the United States, then you can't demand that the country should implement socialist policies (politicians such as Bernie Sanders want to do that, but I really doubt whether he will be allowed, even if he gets elected as the president of the United States). Similarly, if you are residing in a country such as North Korea, then you need to put up with the Socialist system. Most likely you will end up in abject poverty, and may only be able to have food once a day. On the other hand, Kim Jong Un and the ruling elites will be munching on imported Beluga caviar and parmesan cheese. You can't demand that a capitalist system should be implemented there. If you do that, most probably you will end up dead along with your family members.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: dataispower on June 15, 2021, 03:56:27 AM
Yes, absolutely yes. Poverty to me is the state of the mind. Poverty is not impose on any individual but accepted by an individual by desire.
Equal right was given to all at birth but environmental factors will alway play a vital role at every point of growth in the life of every individual. Being poor does not mean not having much money because money is not happines but not finding happines is poverty.
Hence everybody can be rich if and only we realize that lack of money is not poverty but  lack of happiness is poverty.
Where are environmental factors and population in your classification of poverty as emotional abbreviation? Happiness and sadness don't represent wealth and poverty but it is inherent emotional tendencies posed on the ability to feel satisfied. Even a poor person could be happy having just a meal per day and his rich counterpart could be sad having triple square meal a day.
To the OP, it is not totally possible to eliminate poverty even in countries where their economies are very viable, there are homeless people, people still starving due to one environmental factor or the other. So, I can't say poverty can be totally eliminated.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: krky on June 15, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
It depends on your definition of "poverty".

If you have an absolute standard in mind ("Daily income more than $10/day in inflation adjusted dollars") then absolutely, yes. Worldwide incomes are rapidly rising including among the poorest of the poor.

If you mean" people in the bottom 10% of the income distribution" , then by definition no. I don't see a way to have all people earn the same amount, at least not with real humans on the real Earth. Maybe in the 23rd century with free energy and replicators but that's far enough from reality as to be irrelevant.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 15, 2021, 12:42:07 PM
It depends on your definition of "poverty".

If you have an absolute standard in mind ("Daily income more than $10/day in inflation adjusted dollars") then absolutely, yes. Worldwide incomes are rapidly rising including among the poorest of the poor.

If you mean" people in the bottom 10% of the income distribution" , then by definition no. I don't see a way to have all people earn the same amount, at least not with real humans on the real Earth. Maybe in the 23rd century with free energy and replicators but that's far enough from reality as to be irrelevant.

I agree that in general income levels are rising. But the most important thing to remember here is that it is the income levels of the lowest tier, which is rising at the fastest rate. You can check the levels of extreme poverty around the world. Countries such as China has managed to eradicate extreme poverty and it is no mean achievement. Even in third world nations such as India, those who are living in extreme poverty has decreased by 80% or more during the last two decades. Now extreme poverty is mostly limited to certain geographies, such as Sub-Saharan Africa and Haiti.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Fredomago on June 15, 2021, 01:02:11 PM
It depends on your definition of "poverty".

If you have an absolute standard in mind ("Daily income more than $10/day in inflation adjusted dollars") then absolutely, yes. Worldwide incomes are rapidly rising including among the poorest of the poor.

If you mean" people in the bottom 10% of the income distribution" , then by definition no. I don't see a way to have all people earn the same amount, at least not with real humans on the real Earth. Maybe in the 23rd century with free energy and replicators but that's far enough from reality as to be irrelevant.

I agree that in general income levels are rising. But the most important thing to remember here is that it is the income levels of the lowest tier, which is rising at the fastest rate. You can check the levels of extreme poverty around the world. Countries such as China has managed to eradicate extreme poverty and it is no mean achievement. Even in third world nations such as India, those who are living in extreme poverty has decreased by 80% or more during the last two decades. Now extreme poverty is mostly limited to certain geographies, such as Sub-Saharan Africa and Haiti.

The developments that being acquired by those mentioned countries gives them the opportunities to increase thier economy.

extreme poverty though still exist from those places mostly in africa, as the government who rule this place needs to work out and try
to immitate those countries who made a good success.

Poverty still being felt, there are still places who needscertain lift from the help of the government.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 15, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
The developments that being acquired by those mentioned countries gives them the opportunities to increase thier economy.

extreme poverty though still exist from those places mostly in africa, as the government who rule this place needs to work out and try
to immitate those countries who made a good success.

Poverty still being felt, there are still places who needscertain lift from the help of the government.

A few days back, I saw a map which showed the 25 poorest countries in the world. 23 of them are in Africa and the other two are Haiti and Afghanistan. Now one thing is common with all these 25 countries - uncontrolled population growth. These nations have very few natural resources, and the exploding population makes it difficult for the governments to provide essential services to everyone. The only real solution to eradicate poverty is to implement a strict family planning policy across the third world nations.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: sarmrakib on June 15, 2021, 02:27:38 PM
If we look back when our ancestors still lived a nomadic life. their social status is equal. no one is rich and no one is poor. each individual does work by the expertise to get food (survival) and each result is divided fairly according to their respective needs.

If today every country and government has a fair lifestyle, I believe there will be no more poverty.
in my country such a system seems less suitable, where nowadays there are always the rich and the poor. the rich will need the power of the poor, and vice versa the poor will need help from the rich. Even though the government itself will look after the poor, I don't think it's very effective, where in the end we ourselves have to fight for our own welfare.
You explaining about your own country its actually the example of the whole poor country .The rich people are become more rich and poor are become more poor .However there are no exact thing to solve the situation .That's mainly happen when the government involve with the corruption .Its not possible until its been removed from the country even on the society .The humanity has lost totally i have seen many rich person of my country they have enough wealth but they don't have any willing to help the poor even there are not helping to their relatives .So how can you think that the poverty will remove from any country even in the world .


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on June 17, 2021, 08:00:27 PM
I have an interesting question. Do you think that wealth or prosperity is part of happiness or are they separate entities? Or is money synonymous with WIDE OPPORTUNITIES? And happiness can be independent of the availability of money?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ShowOff on June 17, 2021, 09:27:44 PM
I have an interesting question. Do you think that wealth or prosperity is part of happiness or are they separate entities? Or is money synonymous with WIDE OPPORTUNITIES? And happiness can be independent of the availability of money?
The reality today is that money can buy everything, although money can't always do everything. A person can live without money, but as if dead and unable to move when there is no money because in reality nowadays everything is always valued in money

I would not say that happiness can be measured by money, but someone who can live happily with poor status also need money because the government has categorized him as someone who is a taxpayer.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Issa56 on June 17, 2021, 09:35:42 PM
I don't really believe the word can be without poverty because I believe must countries with highest population of poverty are the countries with high population. And I believe the countries with high population the corruption level of the countries are also high, the money that are suppose to be used for development mostly are been embezzled by the people at the top which makes the country undeveloped and increases unemployment and poverty in a country.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 17, 2021, 09:38:06 PM
I have an interesting question. Do you think that wealth or prosperity is part of happiness or are they separate entities? Or is money synonymous with WIDE OPPORTUNITIES? And happiness can be independent of the availability of money?
The reality today is that money can buy everything, although money can't always do everything. A person can live without money, but as if dead and unable to move when there is no money because in reality nowadays everything is always valued in money

I would not say that happiness can be measured by money, but someone who can live happily with poor status also need money because the government has categorized him as someone who is a taxpayer.
Money is part of happiness and theres no denial on that and this had been part of the reality even though it sounds harsh but people cant really fully determine the full meaning of happiness if he dont have money to spend on into something.

Money cant buy everything but this is one of the solely needed for you to be happy even with the simpliest thing that you would do does basically need up some funds.

And asking out on the world doesnt have have poverty? This is a problem that cant really be resolved.There would be always those people who are on the peak,


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 17, 2021, 09:51:57 PM
And asking out on the world doesnt have have poverty? This is a problem that cant really be resolved.There would be always those people who are on the peak,
Wherever you see people's poverty, rest assured that there are corrupt government. When all government are not involved in corruption, poverty is much lower. It is true that there is always someone up and there is always someone down. However, it would be very unfortunate if developed countries also have poor people.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on June 17, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
And asking out on the world doesnt have have poverty? This is a problem that cant really be resolved.There would be always those people who are on the peak,
Wherever you see people's poverty, rest assured that there are corrupt government. When all government are not involved in corruption, poverty is much lower. It is true that there is always someone up and there is always someone down. However, it would be very unfortunate if developed countries also have poor people.
There is no direct correlation between corruption and poverty. In any state, there is a conflict of interests between the public interests and the private interests of the citizen, and the larger the gap in the level of income of the population, the more obvious the facts of corruption will look, but corruption itself is inevitable in any modern models of government, the whole question is only in the scale of the phenomenon. In the same way, we can talk about poverty. If there are different levels of wealth and income, then wealth and poverty are inevitable. We can only try to smooth out their levels, but no more.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on June 18, 2021, 04:04:01 AM
A few years back, there was a proposal for Universal Basic Income (UBI). At that time, the proposal didn't received much support from the general public. But I can see that many of the governments are slowly moving towards having such a system. Here in India, the farmers are being given a fixed amount every year. Some of the other groups also receive similar payments form the government. And the US government is also sending stimulus checks to most of the population (the justification is that pandemic has affected income generation).


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: S4VV4S on June 18, 2021, 11:05:49 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
This is not destiny , everyone can change the fate of his life from poor to rich if he wants to try and work hard and in prayer . When he is persistent in achieving what he wants, it will surely be achieved. And vice versa if people are destined to be rich, but it turns out that he is just a lazy person, I'm sure his life will also be poor. Even in the book I read, God will change a person's life if he himself wants to change his destiny.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ampu on June 18, 2021, 02:51:05 PM
The poor always exist, they are those who are unable to work such as the elderly, the disabled, the sick...
The causes of poverty come from national policies, wars, exploitation, epidemics, weather, climate... leading to food shortages.

I think if the world no longer exploits, makes money on other people's pain, people live ethically, help each other, the world can be better. The world is reducing the number of poor people as humanitarian organizations are working to save the world's poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: BITCOIN4X on June 18, 2021, 03:06:34 PM
There is no direct correlation between corruption and poverty.
Maybe you are right, but as long as the government cares enough about all level of its people, the poverty rate is much less. There are still many other factor that may make poverty on this earth ineradicable and very difficult to perfect. Employment, knowledge, education are some of the factor I mean.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: uneng on June 18, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
There is no direct correlation between corruption and poverty.
Maybe you are right, but as long as the government cares enough about all level of its people, the poverty rate is much less. There are still many other factor that may make poverty on this earth ineradicable and very difficult to perfect. Employment, knowledge, education are some of the factor I mean.
From my experience poverty and corruption are totally related. Corruption means someone is having inadequate advantage over others. It's a relation of abuse of an individual towards other, and although those on the top of the society's pyramid can also be the abused ones, it's more likely they are the abusers, because in corrupt societies people must corrupt themselves to achieve wealthy status.
While those who don't participate such schemes will be put aside from the society, being hard to thrive and becoming doomed to the poverty, if relying only on the local community or country to have opportunities. It happens in private and public sectors.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jaberwock on June 18, 2021, 05:11:56 PM
This is not destiny , everyone can change the fate of his life from poor to rich if he wants to try and work hard and in prayer . When he is persistent in achieving what he wants, it will surely be achieved. And vice versa if people are destined to be rich, but it turns out that he is just a lazy person, I'm sure his life will also be poor. Even in the book I read, God will change a person's life if he himself wants to change his destiny.
This is exactly the reason there will be poverty in the world. If you believe that some people "deserve" to be poor, either because lack of motivation, or because laziness, or because lack of information or whatever the reason would be, I would say that you are doing a propaganda for capitalist rich people.

There is zero person in the world who deserves to live in poverty, doesn't matter even if they decline to work, I am being honest here if you decide you do not want to work and sit around and do nothing all day, that is still not a good enough reason for you to be in poverty, why? Because the world has enough resources to give every single human a standard of life.

However the reality is that there are over a billion people who work and still earn less than poverty level, how about those people? They are working and still underpaid, they are not lazy, they are workers, over a billion people, how can we accept that and just say "they should have been better and earned more" when they are providing some to the world, even if it is just a mcdonalds cook? Even if its just janitor? Every single human in the entire world should live a base of income where they are fine. And this is for big nations, when you go to Africa or south aside you see a lot of people who have even good jobs and still live in poverty because the whole nation is in a mess. Basically the reason why we have poverty is people like you two that deem some people unworthy.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: inoes on June 18, 2021, 09:47:10 PM
rich and poor has become a natural law because the world must be balanced.  In my opinion, people who are poor in wealth do not matter, the most important thing is that all their needs can be met.  and it is the role of the rich who helps the welfare of the poor.  so all there must be intimacy and mutual understanding and mutual help.  You don't have to be all rich and you don't have to be all poor


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: sunsilk on June 18, 2021, 10:15:41 PM
rich and poor has become a natural law because the world must be balanced.  In my opinion, people who are poor in wealth do not matter, the most important thing is that all their needs can be met.  and it is the role of the rich who helps the welfare of the poor.  so all there must be intimacy and mutual understanding and mutual help.  You don't have to be all rich and you don't have to be all poor
Survival is like a daily task to them. It is true that it's one of the important thing that they have to deal in their daily living.

Like where they're going to get their food for their table if jobs aren't stable. That's how they deal with their daily lives which is a very difficult task if we're going to imagine about it.

But with that experience, I've saw people who worked hard and smartly to overcome this trial of poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: fulcare on June 19, 2021, 08:09:02 PM
But I do not say that poverty and rich is beauty because that is a choice for human. If they can work hard in anything, they will get something, whether bad or good. So poverty or rich will depend on your point of view.
It is not about point of view, it is about how they really are, you can be rich and you can be poor also, they are the ones who chose their path in the future, if you are a hardworking and skilled person then for sure you can be rich, but for those people who dont have skill and lazy then for sure, they dont have good future unless they will lucky enough to win the lottery. The status in life is a choice to do something to make you rich.


"The status in life is a choice to do something to make you rich."

With all due respect, my friend, how much in your life have you travelled, to which places have you travelled, and where are you from? I have seen places and people who were given no choices at all. In Africa in particular there is a variety of places where it is all about fate. If you are born in a privileged country, you are right. If you are born in a suppressed country, it really depends. Even in India the caste system is still so prevalent that the lowest castes can't just decide to become somebody else. By the time they are old enough to make reasonable and rational decisions, they have been brainwashed in regards to their status so much that they think there is nothing else for them in life to go for.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2021, 01:01:02 PM
rich and poor has become a natural law because the world must be balanced.  In my opinion, people who are poor in wealth do not matter, the most important thing is that all their needs can be met.  and it is the role of the rich who helps the welfare of the poor.  so all there must be intimacy and mutual understanding and mutual help.  You don't have to be all rich and you don't have to be all poor

It is a very important point. The important thing is that the essential needs can be taken care of. For example, someone who is considered as "poor" in a developed nation such as Norway or Germany will be in a much better position considered to someone else who is classified as "upper middle class" in a country such as India or Nigeria. So what does this mean? IMO, the priority must be given to the overall development of the country. The focus just on the poor will drag down the economic growth and it will hamper the eradication of poverty in the long run.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on June 20, 2021, 07:43:04 PM
I have an interesting question. Do you think that wealth or prosperity is part of happiness or are they separate entities? Or is money synonymous with WIDE OPPORTUNITIES? And happiness can be independent of the availability of money?
The reality today is that money can buy everything, although money can't always do everything. A person can live without money, but as if dead and unable to move when there is no money because in reality nowadays everything is always valued in money

I would not say that happiness can be measured by money, but someone who can live happily with poor status also need money because the government has categorized him as someone who is a taxpayer.

I, in my life, never came to the conclusion that happiness and money are a synonym or two entities complementing each other. I am most impressed by this proverb: money is a good servant or assistant, but a disgusting master.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: secretgirl on June 21, 2021, 11:21:36 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I agree with your statement that laziness can be the result of some people not having a better life, I say poor. If lazy people can change their mindset, maybe they can change the economy of their life. even though they can't have a lot of wealth, they can make their lives better. not a few people around me who do not have knowledge and lack of information. but they can feel the comfort of life because they are willing to learn and work with passion. so I think the main factor of poverty is laziness. I believe that if everyone had passion and was not lazy, there would be no poverty in this world.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 21, 2021, 03:15:28 PM
The team "Rich" has different meaning for different people, being rich does not necessarily mean to have plenty of money, some people are poor in the eyes of other people, but they consider themselves rich while other people we think are rich are actually poor mentally.
But to answer the question based on the OPs perspective, everybody can not be rich, and for those we might consider poor, we should understand that some of this people aren't necessarily poor because they are lazy or lack information, we all should know that alot happens in the spiritual world far more than we know in the physical, God didn't create everyone to be rich and this set of people, no matter how hard they work or how much information at their disposal, they can never be rich in the eyes of other people but within themselves, they are satisfied with whatever they have, this is why we see a shoe maker who we consider poor but when offered a better job, he will reject it and tell you how he's very comfortable with he's shoe making business.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 22, 2021, 01:38:04 PM
I, in my life, never came to the conclusion that happiness and money are a synonym or two entities complementing each other. I am most impressed by this proverb: money is a good servant or assistant, but a disgusting master.

Today the world has become more money minded. The importance of money in our daily lives as of now is much more than what it was two or three decades back. And in 99% of the cases, being in a good financial position (i.e having enough money in hand) is synonymous with good mental and physical health. One reason for this is the transformation of society. A few decades back, at least in the developing world a lot of villages used to have a community based lifestyle. But now it has shifted to family-based structure. Even the families have become smaller. Extended families were common previously, but now the average family size is 2 to 4 individuals.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sternbinder on June 27, 2021, 06:06:39 PM
Poor is a relative term.
I mean that poor people differe from each other: the poor people from the Middle Ages were different from the poor that live nowadays or American poor people are not the same as Chinese poor people. A poor person means a man who is lacking sufficient money to live at a standard considered comfortable or normal in a society. Technically, we can get rid of poverty right now by lowering the living standrads. Poor people's financial situation will not change but officially they will not be considered as poor.
There is such a philosophical concept which is called 'Communism'. It implies that there will not be rich or poor, everybody will be equal. But it works only in theory, in practice there is still stratification of society which we observed in Soviet Union or North Korea or anywhere else. Surely, one can say that these countries haven't reached the communism but they were the closest to it in their mindset. It goes without saying that communism is impossible but it may be the only theory which aspires to financial equality.
If we have free markets, there wiil be also people who earn less or more, which drives us to the conclusion that poor people will also exist. Perhaps, one day the poor will live better than contemporary middle class (remember my comparison to Middle Ages), but they will still be treated like the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: rosebrand on June 27, 2021, 09:00:11 PM
This is really a sad truth most rich people wouldn't want the poor to be rich because there feel the poor will be on the same status with them and there will be lack of servant to carry on the duties of the poor, most people why they are poor is because of lack of information and opportunities, they  are so many people out there who are really knowledgeable but still poor because of lack of information and the rich got a lot of opportunities which can be utilized by the poor and within a short time frame there would also be rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Coroline on June 28, 2021, 07:15:35 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I agree with your statement that laziness can be the result of some people not having a better life, I say poor. If lazy people can change their mindset, maybe they can change the economy of their life. even though they can't have a lot of wealth, they can make their lives better. not a few people around me who do not have knowledge and lack of information. but they can feel the comfort of life because they are willing to learn and work with passion. so I think the main factor of poverty is laziness. I believe that if everyone had passion and was not lazy, there would be no poverty in this world.
According to a new study published by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, people who grew up in poor households are, as adults, more likely to be poor than those who grew up in rich households. Especially when faced with economic uncertainty in the future. Exposure to instability hinders their ability to complete challenging tasks. In one experiment, researchers found that individuals with poor childhoods gave up trying to solve difficult puzzles -- more than 25 percent gave up earlier than those with rich backgrounds.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on June 28, 2021, 11:37:53 PM
According to a new study published by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, people who grew up in poor households are, as adults, more likely to be poor than those who grew up in rich households. Especially when faced with economic uncertainty in the future. Exposure to instability hinders their ability to complete challenging tasks. In one experiment, researchers found that individuals with poor childhoods gave up trying to solve difficult puzzles -- more than 25 percent gave up earlier than those with rich backgrounds.
And without proper research, it is clear that wealth breeds even more wealth. It is no secret to anyone, and joint research has been conducted on this topic, that the absolute greatness of today's great wealth is obtained not through earning from scratch, but through inheritance. It's just that y different strata of the population have different priorities and if the rich strata are looking for ways to increase their wealth and they have all the conditions and resources for this, it's the poor strata of the present who are deprived of all this and are simply concerned with the issues of a decent life at best, survival at worst. It's just that these are the rules of the game of modern civilization. And there is no need to talk about laziness and lack of diligence, it's just that all the billions of inhabitants of the Earth cannot be Gates and Bezos, purely physical.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Iphomme on June 29, 2021, 06:13:26 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

  For me difinitely not happen that the world without poverty cause I believe that their a cases due that over population and some government can't notice the problem  of the society it is hard to addressed this kind of scenario. That's why we can prevent poverty in everywhere. But maybe we can reduce in discipline ourselves and learn to listen the Government implementation regards in reducing poverty .


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlisle1 on June 29, 2021, 07:43:49 AM
According to a new study published by the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, people who grew up in poor households are, as adults, more likely to be poor than those who grew up in rich households. Especially when faced with economic uncertainty in the future. Exposure to instability hinders their ability to complete challenging tasks. In one experiment, researchers found that individuals with poor childhoods gave up trying to solve difficult puzzles -- more than 25 percent gave up earlier than those with rich backgrounds.
And without proper research, it is clear that wealth breeds even more wealth. It is no secret to anyone, and joint research has been conducted on this topic, that the absolute greatness of today's great wealth is obtained not through earning from scratch, but through inheritance. It's just that y different strata of the population have different priorities and if the rich strata are looking for ways to increase their wealth and they have all the conditions and resources for this, it's the poor strata of the present who are deprived of all this and are simply concerned with the issues of a decent life at best, survival at worst. It's just that these are the rules of the game of modern civilization. And there is no need to talk about laziness and lack of diligence, it's just that all the billions of inhabitants of the Earth cannot be Gates and Bezos, purely physical.
Putting that into simple explanation, those rich people allow their Childs to inherit their wealth,

but aside from the wealth itself they also gave all the spice that's needed to continue being wealthy, not to allow their child to overspend those luxury and place them into situation where they will manage the business with the guidance that will continue to prosper the business.

however, those who are in the poor side will continue to push their child to an early labor to survive life, same cycle and only those who have determinations and luck will change their fate.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: chikading2016 on June 29, 2021, 08:15:06 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think as long as there are greedy and corrupt people specially to those who are working in the government there are always poor. They always says poverty is not the hindrance to success, will in my part i think that was only a sayings, how can we go to school without any expenses, how can we live life without money ? Well i will say you are lucky if you are born rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Coroline on June 29, 2021, 10:47:46 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think as long as there are greedy and corrupt people specially to those who are working in the government there are always poor. They always says poverty is not the hindrance to success, will in my part i think that was only a sayings, how can we go to school without any expenses, how can we live life without money ? Well i will say you are lucky if you are born rich.
Corruption, of course, has a very broad impact, especially on the lives of the poor in rural and urban areas, there are several bad impacts that will be received by the poor due to corruption, among them, making them poor people (the poor) tend to receive fewer social services and receive less attention. or the high price of public services and services, low quality of service, limited access such as health due to misappropriation of funds into the pockets of the corrupt.

One other example of corrupt activities is the misuse of education funds or money for underprivileged school children so that the consequences of this deviation in education funds will have an impact on the community or underprivileged children because their right to receive a decent education is lost. Even if you can access the facilities, it will not be good and the underprivileged children also have to pay for school, while the cost of education is not cheap, this is what ultimately causes many children to drop out of school. The increasing number of children dropping out of school makes the level of education in the community lower, it will trigger an increase in the complexity of the pre-existing poverty problem.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on June 30, 2021, 09:44:42 AM
What about "systemic poverty"? Let me explain now. Systemic poverty is when the inhabitants of an entire country, at the level of state propaganda, impose the opinion that living well and richly is bad, that wealth (or an average and higher standard of living) is evil? Vivid examples are the USSR, which has sunk into history, the existing North Korea, etc. countries, as a rule, are the heirs of the concept of socialism in the Soviet way.
At the same time, the leaders of such countries, and the top of the government in such countries, always live in a separate isolated world, with a high level of income, immersed in luxury and wealth :)


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: swiftbits on June 30, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Education is a great factor why poverty is still rising; if people are educated enough, they could get away from poverty.
The problem is, education is privileged; it is not free at all. Lack of resources could potentially make you lose interest in anything.
If only the government could provide free education and support, people could help build a better community.
More opportunities will come for the next generation.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlisle1 on June 30, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
Education is a great factor why poverty is still rising; if people are educated enough, they could get away from poverty.
The problem is, education is privileged; it is not free at all. Lack of resources could potentially make you lose interest in anything.
If only the government could provide free education and support, people could help build a better community.
More opportunities will come for the next generation.

Education influenced the way you think and the way you choose to live, without proper one the chance of continuing the cycle from where you belong is very possible, those who are inside third world country mostly lack of proper education.

Most of them are being force to adopt childhood labor since the family needs them, they don't have time to study.

First, they don't have budget to proceed and most of the time the person itself choose not to continue since they've seen the big needs of their family and nature call to stand as early as it is to help and survive.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Argoo on June 30, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
Our world has never known a period without poverty, and at once in many countries. Apparently, we will never see this for a number of reasons. First, we are already at least the sixth human civilization on this planet. As soon as people reach a certain technical development, something constantly happens on a global scale and we are thrown back many centuries, or even millennia ago. Secondly, people are constantly waging wars with each other. And where there are wars, there is destruction and hunger. Thirdly, even with the current level of technical development, we have not learned to live in harmony with nature, which leads to numerous cataclysms and climate change, which we are seeing now.
Most likely, we will be able to overcome poverty when one superstate or at least a few friendly states remains on our planet, and science and technology will achieve such progress that we will be able to deliver the necessary chemical elements and their more complex compounds to Earth from near and even deep space that we need. After all, their supply on Earth is constantly being depleted.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on June 30, 2021, 05:40:30 PM
Education is a great factor why poverty is still rising; if people are educated enough, they could get away from poverty.
The problem is, education is privileged; it is not free at all. Lack of resources could potentially make you lose interest in anything.
If only the government could provide free education and support, people could help build a better community.
More opportunities will come for the next generation.
- Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 06:33:49 PM
Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.

In the developed world, the children (after a particular age) are supposed to help their parents in work. So they may not get enough time to concentrate on their studies. Also, the government run schools may not have enough resources when compared to the private schools. But all that said, if the student has the urge to succeed, then nothing can stop him. There is no guarantee that if you have a good educational background, then you will be super-rich. But at least you can be assured that you will not be in poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sayeds56 on July 01, 2021, 03:14:39 AM
Education is greatly supported by the governments of countries, even it is highly encouraged in developed countries, some countries have waived quite a lot of school fees for children and poor people but in such a special condition, the poor system has not collapsed, many generations are unable to master and develop their educational knowledge. Education is also just an opportunity and a way to reduce the poverty rate, basically, the process of poverty still tends to be closely linked and cannot be removed from society.

In deed, Education is the key to eradicate poverty from society and it needs political will from highest office of government to make education  mandatory up to higher school level  and it has to be free as well. Having said that, the Role of Innovative Institutions is vital important to educate youth for new technologies which create new jobs. China is Role Model for the world who has successfully reduced poverty to almost zero % level despite population of 1.2 Billion people.


 https://blogs.adb.org/blog/how-did-people-s-republic-china-reduce-poverty-countryside


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 01, 2021, 07:57:10 AM
it is children who come from poor families who have a strong desire to succeed, they are the ones who will become real success. School is important, but life experiences outside will shape people to be able to break the challenges of the world. if we see there are also many people with low education, but they are successful

People with low education levels will be able to become successful. But they will face issues due to their lack of education. So even if they become rich, there is a need to get the necessary education. And age is no bar to get education. I have seen people in their 40s studying for the MBA course in my city. And here the government has also taken out a few programs, to make sure that elderly people who are illiterate get the basic education. The participation rates are low, but those who have attended such programs say that they are very beneficial. 


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ziennakarishma21 on July 01, 2021, 09:10:21 AM
Hunger and poverty is a life balance that cannot be erased because if you imagine that the whole world is rich and enjoys no work no need to create food just lay there and wait who will do it all will starve. Therefore, to balance this, there must be rich people, there must also be poor people and this is the law of life. Hunger and poverty can only be reduced but cannot be completely eliminated.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Masplanc on July 01, 2021, 10:44:11 AM
Poverty has been there from the beginning, it something that have been existing with man. If there should be no poverty money  won't have value. If every one should have money who will be in the market place to sell?, Who will be the gardener to cut grasses and take care of the flowers .

One thing I understand life about is that everyone can't get wealth    or rich. You need people to manage your wealth. If everyone should be rich there won't be value in the economy.
And it is not possible for everyone to become rich


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: dmamigo on July 01, 2021, 01:00:08 PM
Hunger and poverty is a life balance that cannot be erased because if you imagine that the whole world is rich and enjoys no work no need to create food just lay there and wait who will do it all will starve. Therefore, to balance this, there must be rich people, there must also be poor people and this is the law of life. Hunger and poverty can only be reduced but cannot be completely eliminated.

The question is about poverty which I think can be eliminated by better balancing this by the government. I also think poverty is not required to balance the life of the world or it is not the law of life.
And who says that rich people do not work or they enjoy no work. Poverty usually hits the people who do not have any work to earn money to feed them.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: shield132 on July 01, 2021, 02:07:49 PM
What about "systemic poverty"? Let me explain now. Systemic poverty is when the inhabitants of an entire country, at the level of state propaganda, impose the opinion that living well and richly is bad, that wealth (or an average and higher standard of living) is evil? Vivid examples are the USSR, which has sunk into history, the existing North Korea, etc. countries, as a rule, are the heirs of the concept of socialism in the Soviet way.
At the same time, the leaders of such countries, and the top of the government in such countries, always live in a separate isolated world, with a high level of income, immersed in luxury and wealth :)
Good point! Soviet Union was trying to make its countries closed and didn't let people to know what was happening in USA, Europe, etc. It was very hard to leave and get out of USSR. People were living poor, didn't have access on technics, TV, Radio, (When someone had, it was a phenomenal moment), there were shit Russian cars, etc. People were living poor life and since they didn't know what was the good life, they were thinking that they were living at their best and didn't have a requirement of a better life. Imagine, if you don't have access to electricity, computers, smartphones, etc. When you don't know these things, you'll never have a requirement of them. This was the life in USSR!

Will there be a world without poverty? There is no way! People are egoists, we all want all the best for ourselves, it's just our nature and it's pretty normal. There will always be someone who will try to achieve more success than someone other and humans will always try to compete against each other.

Someone who lives average life would be considered as the richest at past. Someone called poor right now would be the richest in ancient times. As time goes, the quality of life improves, so the meaning of poor is a little bit developing and probably in 400-500 years, someone called average would be considered poor according to future criterias.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on July 02, 2021, 09:27:49 PM
What about "systemic poverty"? Let me explain now. Systemic poverty is when the inhabitants of an entire country, at the level of state propaganda, impose the opinion that living well and richly is bad, that wealth (or an average and higher standard of living) is evil? Vivid examples are the USSR, which has sunk into history, the existing North Korea, etc. countries, as a rule, are the heirs of the concept of socialism in the Soviet way.
At the same time, the leaders of such countries, and the top of the government in such countries, always live in a separate isolated world, with a high level of income, immersed in luxury and wealth :)
Good point! Soviet Union was trying to make its countries closed and didn't let people to know what was happening in USA, Europe, etc. It was very hard to leave and get out of USSR. People were living poor, didn't have access on technics, TV, Radio, (When someone had, it was a phenomenal moment), there were shit Russian cars, etc. People were living poor life and since they didn't know what was the good life, they were thinking that they were living at their best and didn't have a requirement of a better life. Imagine, if you don't have access to electricity, computers, smartphones, etc. When you don't know these things, you'll never have a requirement of them. This was the life in USSR!

Will there be a world without poverty? There is no way! People are egoists, we all want all the best for ourselves, it's just our nature and it's pretty normal. There will always be someone who will try to achieve more success than someone other and humans will always try to compete against each other.

Someone who lives average life would be considered as the richest at past. Someone called poor right now would be the richest in ancient times. As time goes, the quality of life improves, so the meaning of poor is a little bit developing and probably in 400-500 years, someone called average would be considered poor according to future criterias.

I wrote a lot about the USSR, because I was born there and lived there until its collapse :)
I will continue on about "systemic poverty". This policy has spawned nearly 250 million people who are really accustomed to working "for food" or for a very small salary. They do not understand why these or those services or goods are, by their standards, UNREASONABLY expensive. I always answered this simply - do it cheaper too, give the market a competitive product, you will make good money. This is where the thinking of the "systemic poor" breaks down, tk. he is not used to creating high-quality and competitive products, he is not used to taking responsibility and taking risks. Trying to explain economic theory or what "added value" is to them is useless. In a word, this is a whole layer of people who not only cannot but do not want to accept other rules of the game, change, and most importantly, change, and what is more sad is that they are absolutely satisfied with a poor life!


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: SacriFries11 on July 03, 2021, 01:48:05 AM
No. people must be responsible at  a young age. there is no problem with our natural resources but we must know how to use it. Of course, the government has a huge role to guide and support us. Education plays a vital role, everyone should be educated to minimize poverty. Perseverance is the key. Its not easy to end poverty, but we can eradicate it. There are lot of things we can do to help end poverty. Starting a small business is a good idea, it will easily grow if we are responsible enough to manage it. Also, we must make use of our natural resources.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: KevinRosa on July 03, 2021, 02:53:47 AM
Different abilities, different opportunities. Some people will seize the opportunity, some people will give up the opportunity. It is the gap between people, so some places in the world are poor and some places are rich. If poverty can be eliminated, it may be necessary to start with technology, such as the current blockchain technology and Bitcoin. I actually agree that this is not only a technological revolution, but also a civilizational change. Bitcoin declares the formality of machine civilization. The arrival can also be called a silicon-based civilization, where robots and artificial intelligence replace productivity and labor, and use smart contracts to build a new trust system. I think poverty will gradually die out, and the distribution of wealth will gradually become evener, at least not as the current polarization gap is greater. The greater the coming, and the richer and richer people’s spiritual world


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Tristan Bieber on July 03, 2021, 03:43:44 AM
If there were no poor people, the world would lose productivity. Everyone is not short of money, and half of the jobs in the world will disappear. Such as nanny, worker, cleaning, catering service staff, farmer and other positions that suffer from industry discrimination. A world without the poor is a beautiful utopia. Once it becomes a reality and the poor become rich, it will break the balance of mutual restraint and mutual dependence between the rich and the poor. If things go on like this, more serious social conflicts will erupt, so I think Fundamentally speaking, it is impossible to have the poor. The society needs people of different levels. I do not discriminate against the poor, but I think the world still needs some gaps so that this society can function better.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bitcoin-shine on July 03, 2021, 08:28:20 AM
the UN is expected to adopt the World Bank's ambitious target of ending extreme poverty by 2030.
It would mean that for the first time, everyone in the world would able to afford a refrigerator and other goods that would make life a bit easier.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DatKing on July 03, 2021, 08:58:56 AM
If there were no poor people, the world would lose productivity.  ~snip~

I totally agree with it. I don't like to see poor people of course. Who would want to live like that if he/she had a choice? But this is the rule of the nature I think. Poor people constitute an important part of the economy with their work. If they didn't exist, many sectors would die by now.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kiley33 on July 03, 2021, 09:21:56 AM
There will definitely be poor people in the world, but many places are now implementing poverty alleviation policies, but if the income of the rich and the poor is the same as their lives, it will take a long time. The rich have the advantages of the rich, but so do the poor. The poor do not necessarily understand the lifestyle of the rich, and the rich do not necessarily understand the self-satisfaction of the poor. The world itself is unfair, but poverty will gradually decrease. No matter what kind of people we are, just enjoy life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Expecto on July 03, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
We will always see poor people existing I think. The era we live in will change but not the balance of the world. Helping all of the people in the world get rid of the poverty means that many jobs will just disappear. And it will cause some problems in the country.

But I really wonder what will happen after robots start taking many jobs which people are doing now. I wonder if there would still be poverty among people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Rajamuda on July 03, 2021, 10:21:45 AM
It all happens naturally how a person faces the world with the various things they can do, and also actually this is influenced by the people themselves, their thoughts and efforts affect their economic life.
It is different if the state government really cares about its people by providing many job opportunities/business capital, perhaps the poverty rate will continue to decline from time to time until the people are able to continue to develop.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Tumanggor on July 03, 2021, 11:59:39 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
some say that poverty is made by capitalists, I'm sure that's because if everyone is rich then there is no human power they can use to help their business stay up

everyone can be rich if they are willing to learn, open-minded, and receptive to new things
being poor is a mindset, not destiny because thousands of super-rich people today, on average, come from poor families and drop out of school


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on July 03, 2021, 07:23:20 PM
No. people must be responsible at  a young age. there is no problem with our natural resources but we must know how to use it. Of course, the government has a huge role to guide and support us. Education plays a vital role, everyone should be educated to minimize poverty. Perseverance is the key. Its not easy to end poverty, but we can eradicate it. There are lot of things we can do to help end poverty. Starting a small business is a good idea, it will easily grow if we are responsible enough to manage it. Also, we must make use of our natural resources.

Extraction and trade in natural resources, and building an economy on this basis, is the worst option. The resource-based economy is ineffective (there are exceptions, but they are rare), it belongs to a rather low-level economy and, as a rule, is the lot of backward countries. No offense. There are plenty of examples of the total failure of such economies! Recently, Venezuela showed "well" what it means to orient the economy towards resources, and at the end of the 20th century - the USSR, which collapsed with a crash, for the same reason - the rate on budget income (including currencies), after the "golden time "oil / gas prices fell, and this" colossus on oil feet "collapsed. Now a similar situation exists in the Russian Federation - after sanctions and problems in the oil market - the budget of the Russian Federation does not receive up to 30%, and this has burned out a lot of their internal funds worth many billions of dollars in a couple of years.

A more efficient economy - built on scientific and technological progress and technology. The world is actively developing and changing, and it turns from a resource into a technological one. Accordingly, technologies will be most in demand in the coming decades, and they will be ready to give any resources for them. technological backwardness gives rise to the strongest backwardness of the economy, and its further decline


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ene1980 on July 03, 2021, 08:14:35 PM
some say that poverty is made by capitalists, I'm sure that's because if everyone is rich then there is no human power they can use to help their business stay up
Which means everyone was filthy rich before capitalism :P :D, there are many countries following different political views and which view is creating more billionaires, it is capitalism that is making more billionaires.


everyone can be rich if they are willing to learn, open-minded, and receptive to new things
being poor is a mindset, not destiny because thousands of super-rich people today, on average, come from poor families and drop out of school
It is not just the mindset, you need to have some qualities than the average Joe to think and perform better than the rest of the common people, the idea to make money is easy, have a billion dollar mindset is not enough, it is how you are going to execute things and that requires skills.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Shasha80 on July 04, 2021, 11:17:09 AM
It all happens naturally how a person faces the world with the various things they can do, and also actually this is influenced by the people themselves, their thoughts and efforts affect their economic life.
It is different if the state government really cares about its people by providing many job opportunities/business capital, perhaps the poverty rate will continue to decline from time to time until the people are able to continue to develop.

Actually, it really depends on us and what we do that affects our economy. So if we really want poverty to decrease, cannot only expect
government assistance. We are the ones who can change our lives, because everyone has the same time of day, so what we do during
the 24 hours determines the future. We must be able to do something useful, because successful people are not lazy, they work hard to
use the time they have to do useful things.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 04, 2021, 01:01:11 PM
Actually, it really depends on us and what we do that affects our economy. So if we really want poverty to decrease, cannot only expect
government assistance. We are the ones who can change our lives, because everyone has the same time of day, so what we do during
the 24 hours determines the future. We must be able to do something useful, because successful people are not lazy, they work hard to
use the time they have to do useful things.

Unfortunately, the world seems to be moving in the opposite direction. More and more governments are coming up with populist budgets (i.e more handouts to the poor, and more taxes to the middle class and rich). The problem with this model is that hard working and successful people are being penalized and the unproductive population is getting rewarded. If the trend continues for the long term, then eventually it will result in the reduction in tax paying population. Either they will stop working, or they will simply migrate to other countries with saner tax policies.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Shasha80 on July 05, 2021, 02:43:53 PM
Actually, it really depends on us and what we do that affects our economy. So if we really want poverty to decrease, cannot only expect
government assistance. We are the ones who can change our lives, because everyone has the same time of day, so what we do during
the 24 hours determines the future. We must be able to do something useful, because successful people are not lazy, they work hard to
use the time they have to do useful things.

Unfortunately, the world seems to be moving in the opposite direction. More and more governments are coming up with populist budgets (i.e more handouts to the poor, and more taxes to the middle class and rich). The problem with this model is that hard working and successful people are being penalized and the unproductive population is getting rewarded. If the trend continues for the long term, then eventually it will result in the reduction in tax paying population. Either they will stop working, or they will simply migrate to other countries with saner tax policies.

What you describe is a sad reality, no wonder it is very difficult to reduce poverty. The government should change the system related to tax policy,
in my opinion the poor should not be given financial assistance, it will make them even more lazy to work. The government should provide training
to the poor, so that they have the skills and can get a job. Actually, the government also needs to educate the poor to change their mindset, not to
rely too much on government assistance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tyz on July 05, 2021, 07:11:52 PM
everyone can be rich if they are willing to learn, open-minded, and receptive to new things
being poor is a mindset, not destiny because thousands of super-rich people today, on average, come from poor families and drop out of school
It is not just the mindset, you need to have some qualities than the average Joe to think and perform better than the rest of the common people, the idea to make money is easy, have a billion dollar mindset is not enough, it is how you are going to execute things and that requires skills.

Education is not always enough. At least not in all parts of the world. If you are well educated in industrialized nations, you will certainly get a job. If you are very well educated in a developing country, for example, then it is not certain that you will get a job. The general conditions are just as important as the education itself.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on July 05, 2021, 10:49:31 PM
What you describe is a sad reality, no wonder it is very difficult to reduce poverty. The government should change the system related to tax policy, in my opinion the poor should not be given financial assistance, it will make them even more lazy to work. The government should provide training to the poor, so that they have the skills and can get a job. Actually, the government also needs to educate the poor to change their mindset, not to rely too much on government assistance.
We just need a reasonable balance between material assistance to the low-income population and creating incentives for this population to earn money on their own. Nevertheless, in any case, it will be a shameful phenomenon for any state if in the 21st century people will die of hunger or do not receive the necessary medical care due to lack of funds. Let's be realistic, but unemployment is an indispensable part of modern capitalism and no normal democratic state can and is not obliged to provide everyone with work, and any violation of this principle leads to human rights violations and slave inefficient forced labor. Therefore, I would advise you to be more careful with statements about financial assistance, because often the price of this is a human life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 05, 2021, 11:05:50 PM
What you describe is a sad reality, no wonder it is very difficult to reduce poverty. The government should change the system related to tax policy, in my opinion the poor should not be given financial assistance, it will make them even more lazy to work. The government should provide training to the poor, so that they have the skills and can get a job. Actually, the government also needs to educate the poor to change their mindset, not to rely too much on government assistance.
We just need a reasonable balance between material assistance to the low-income population and creating incentives for this population to earn money on their own. Nevertheless, in any case, it will be a shameful phenomenon for any state if in the 21st century people will die of hunger or do not receive the necessary medical care due to lack of funds. Let's be realistic, but unemployment is an indispensable part of modern capitalism and no normal democratic state can and is not obliged to provide everyone with work, and any violation of this principle leads to human rights violations and slave inefficient forced labor. Therefore, I would advise you to be more careful with statements about financial assistance, because often the price of this is a human life.
One of the factors that should be needed to control is to suppress or slow down the population growth. This is where the problem do start on and if you do try to look on rich countries which does have
proper family planning where families could really raise up their child and give out a good life compared into those non-stop giving birth or uncontrolled ones which will really be adding up on the problem.

Even government had done some programs on giving out livelihood or support or assistance but due to number it wont really be enough.Theres no such thing about unlimited budget
allocated for such problem.

It is a matter of governance and of course self discipline by its citizens itself.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vaskiy on July 05, 2021, 11:40:01 PM
World can change as a place without poverty. For the same we need to sacrifice more and a transition to the old stone age needs to happen.

In the early days there is no money, people lived with what they had. If you have something for the day, you share it with rest of the people surrounding you. Today that isn't possible and we can't expect the same to happen again.

Next way is the initiative from government. When there are billionaires who had got money higher than a government, surely there'll be poverty. This imbalance can be made equal through effective plans and for this governments can make billionaires adopt villages and make development and provide opportunity for the upliftment.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Shamm on July 06, 2021, 05:33:31 AM
 It's Impossible cause were over populated and some government was experienced a difficulties handling their people and some people never aim to rich the Government cause they think  will never heard their opinion or wanted to tell. Except the country origin in a royal or stable that can able to support thier people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: oHnK on July 06, 2021, 02:52:53 PM
World can change as a place without poverty. For the same we need to sacrifice more and a transition to the old stone age needs to happen.

In the early days there is no money, people lived with what they had. If you have something for the day, you share it with rest of the people surrounding you. Today that isn't possible and we can't expect the same to happen again.

Next way is the initiative from government. When there are billionaires who had got money higher than a government, surely there'll be poverty. This imbalance can be made equal through effective plans and for this governments can make billionaires adopt villages and make development and provide opportunity for the upliftment.

I can say loudly that world without poverty is non sense. Why? Look at this time, the gap is so far. Not only about economic but also mentality. Some poor people are not only poor in wealth but also poor in mind.  If you want to tell me whether this world can be without poverty, it is the same if I ask whether all humans can have belief in the same religion?  In the book which I read, it is taught how to manage the nation and state with zakat.  Zakat is able to provide a solution to poverty and inequality.  But is Zakat accepted in all countries?  Not.  such is poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Shasha80 on July 07, 2021, 04:01:06 AM
One of the factors that should be needed to control is to suppress or slow down the population growth. This is where the problem do start on and if you do try to look on rich countries which does have
proper family planning where families could really raise up their child and give out a good life compared into those non-stop giving birth or uncontrolled ones which will really be adding up on the problem.

Even government had done some programs on giving out livelihood or support or assistance but due to number it wont really be enough.Theres no such thing about unlimited budget
allocated for such problem.

It is a matter of governance and of course self discipline by its citizens itself.

It is quite reasonable that the problem of poverty begins with uncontrolled population growth, many families have many children. And if parents
do not educate their children properly, this becomes a burden for the country, because the number of unemployed will increase. Therefore, some
Asian countries with high population, usually the poverty rate is also high. I really appreciate countries that limit the number of births, fortunately
my country has a program that recommends every family to only have 2 children. The problem is that the residents of my country are not disciplined
and do not carry out the program from the government, no wonder in my country the poverty rate is very high.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on July 07, 2021, 04:30:17 AM
I can say loudly that world without poverty is non sense. Why? Look at this time, the gap is so far. Not only about economic but also mentality. Some poor people are not only poor in wealth but also poor in mind.  If you want to tell me whether this world can be without poverty, it is the same if I ask whether all humans can have belief in the same religion?  In the book which I read, it is taught how to manage the nation and state with zakat.  Zakat is able to provide a solution to poverty and inequality.  But is Zakat accepted in all countries?  Not.  such is poverty.

There will always be wealth inequality in the world. But from what I can see, with some exceptions (such as Sub-Saharan Africa), this wealth disparity is reducing with time. Extreme poverty is rare nowadays, even in Africa. Some of the countries such as China claims to have completely eradicated extreme poverty. But they achieved this through tough family planning measures. For African countries, this is not practical because they don't believe in family planning. So it will take more time to eradicate extreme poverty in these countries.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: John Jefferson on July 07, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
I don't think it is easy to eliminate absolute poverty. If the whole world is no longer poor, I can't imagine whether people in this society will still have the initiative to make progress. In my opinion, it is because of the existence of people at different levels that the world's economy is balanced. Although the government can help the poor, it can only solve part of the problem of food and clothing, and cannot make them rich. The most fundamental way is to change oneself and change the status quo through hard work.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Davidvictorson on July 07, 2021, 11:55:55 AM
Hopefully, by 2030 according to the Sustainable development goal 1.

However, poverty cannot be eliminated until the earth’s resources is distributed  a remotely just way. Until the courageous people in governments and corporations are able to stand up and demand for economic reform, through policies that combat poverty and its causes. It should be more than just giving people jobs.  Because in most Sub-Sahara African and  South and Southeast Asian countries people who are employed still find themselves locked in very low paying jobs. These jobs have to be able yield a liveable income to pull people out of poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: oHnK on July 07, 2021, 01:32:28 PM
There will always be wealth inequality in the world. But from what I can see, with some exceptions (such as Sub-Saharan Africa), this wealth disparity is reducing with time. Extreme poverty is rare nowadays, even in Africa. Some of the countries such as China claims to have completely eradicated extreme poverty. But they achieved this through tough family planning measures. For African countries, this is not practical because they don't believe in family planning. So it will take more time to eradicate extreme poverty in these countries.

If we talk about poverty, even that's extreme or not, poverty is poverty. We walk through the city and look around, certainly, you will meet some guys who ask you a little bit of money that you have. A world without poverty, what I see, there's no more people who can't fulfill their life's needs without lack. There is no more place for you to give ur charity. As long you meet them, the world is still a place for inequality.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on July 07, 2021, 02:13:27 PM
What you describe is a sad reality, no wonder it is very difficult to reduce poverty. The government should change the system related to tax policy, in my opinion the poor should not be given financial assistance, it will make them even more lazy to work. The government should provide training to the poor, so that they have the skills and can get a job. Actually, the government also needs to educate the poor to change their mindset, not to rely too much on government assistance.
We just need a reasonable balance between material assistance to the low-income population and creating incentives for this population to earn money on their own. Nevertheless, in any case, it will be a shameful phenomenon for any state if in the 21st century people will die of hunger or do not receive the necessary medical care due to lack of funds. Let's be realistic, but unemployment is an indispensable part of modern capitalism and no normal democratic state can and is not obliged to provide everyone with work, and any violation of this principle leads to human rights violations and slave inefficient forced labor. Therefore, I would advise you to be more careful with statements about financial assistance, because often the price of this is a human life.

I understand your idea, and it sounds quite humane. But there are nuances here.
For example, when it was such a country in the USSR. The ruling party told everyone that it was building a humane, balanced socialist society. Some of the actions were similar to what you are proposing. BUT. There was no unemployment in the country, but 80% of the population did not receive income, but a handout. Medicine was free, but its effectiveness was extremely low, life expectancy lagged noticeably behind European. The overall quality of life was very low, and instead of growth, we got poverty spread across the country. It turns out that the system works either with stratification (rich, middle class, poor) or everything is mixed, and the mixture tends to deteriorate in quality. Conclusion - basic social protection should be for the poor, low-income, incapacitated. Most likely it should be a state fund and a separate tax. But this does not mean that it is necessary to reduce the standard of living or the possibilities of others, through an attempt to level the standard of living for everyone. And we must understand that the ideal balance is possible only in rich countries with stable economies.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 07, 2021, 02:19:28 PM
I understand your idea, and it sounds quite humane. But there are nuances here.
For example, when it was such a country in the USSR. The ruling party told everyone that it was building a humane, balanced socialist society. Some of the actions were similar to what you are proposing. BUT. There was no unemployment in the country, but 80% of the population did not receive income, but a handout. Medicine was free, but its effectiveness was extremely low, life expectancy lagged noticeably behind European. The overall quality of life was very low, and instead of growth, we got poverty spread across the country. It turns out that the system works either with stratification (rich, middle class, poor) or everything is mixed, and the mixture tends to deteriorate in quality. Conclusion - basic social protection should be for the poor, low-income, incapacitated. Most likely it should be a state fund and a separate tax. But this does not mean that it is necessary to reduce the standard of living or the possibilities of others, through an attempt to level the standard of living for everyone. And we must understand that the ideal balance is possible only in rich countries with stable economies.

Socialism works for a short period of time, when the wealth from the upper class is redistributed among the poor. But once this phase is over, the government needs to loot the middle class and the poor to manage the economy of the country. And this has repeated almost in every country where socialists came to power - Cuba, North Korea, USSR, Cambodia, Venezuela.etc. It can be argued that there were no poor people in the USSR. But the so called "middle class" in the USSR had a worse living standard than the "poor" in western nations such as the US and UK.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sirait on July 07, 2021, 02:37:51 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Poverty cannot go away, as long as stupidity, laziness, and corruption persist. no one in this world wants to be poor but there is nothing they can do when they are still stupid and lazy. I once asked a lot of poor people randomly and the words that came out of them were "just living like this is comfortable"


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Clairvoyance on July 07, 2021, 02:38:30 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Theoretically it can exist but not in reality. As long as there are greedy single minded people in power, we can never achieve an economically viable living for all. Take a look at this well defined article. (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax) The rich can always find a way to evade taxes and accumulate more wealth than they could possibly live out. We can only dream of a world where wealth is properly distributed and opportunities are well within reach of everyone.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Robinson66 on July 08, 2021, 09:42:56 AM
Poverty will exist. Some countries may help the poor, but some small countries cannot help, so the poor are still poor. Everyone has their own way of life. Everyone's pursuit is different. The rich may lead a busy life. The poor live a happy life, the rich may enjoy it, the poor live a rich life, but there are also active people among the poor who succeed through their own efforts, and the rich may also fail and become poor due to investment failures. But in the world It will not completely eliminate the poor. It can only be said that the poor will work hard to get rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: breathlessz on July 08, 2021, 01:17:14 PM
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Theoretically it can exist but not in reality. As long as there are greedy single minded people in power, we can never achieve an economically viable living for all. Take a look at this well defined article. (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax) The rich can always find a way to evade taxes and accumulate more wealth than they could possibly live out. We can only dream of a world where wealth is properly distributed and opportunities are well within reach of everyone.
this happens a lot in the liberal system, where there is always a gulf between the rich and the poor. It is unfortunate that most of them are rich people who are not open in terms of their tax obligations, it also causes the delay in the government's program for the common welfare. so that it is impossible to eradicate poverty in that country let alone in this world, we can only indicate the success of reducing the number of poor people


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: CHENIEN on July 08, 2021, 05:34:10 PM
In my opinion, Since we are here in what a wonderful world is, poverty is always staying externally and then there are no justifications suchlike perfect accessories of life with a key to farewell poverty in one hit, on the other spot, we aren't exempted with population increase, I think it is unstoppable in the extensive way of life playing, in practical reason, poverty was inherited from our ancestors, perhaps this our true life on earth, which is, no one can deny it.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Quidat on July 08, 2021, 06:33:37 PM
In my opinion, Since we are here in what a wonderful world is, poverty is always staying externally and then there are no justifications suchlike perfect accessories of life with a key to farewell poverty in one hit, on the other spot, we aren't exempted with population increase, I think it is unstoppable in the extensive way of life playing, in practical reason, poverty was inherited from our ancestors, perhaps this our true life on earth, which is, no one can deny it.

Not something that can be just resolved out in one go and for sure all of governments is trying out to get rid of this global problem but due to increase of population then theres no way
that you can really able to suppress it nor matter what and how much you would really allocate when it comes to be on the funds used. Poverty would be still existing no matter what.
We do love to see a poverty-free world but it cant just be possible.There would be always inequality here on this world and lets just accept that fact but somehow
there are lots of organizations which do really make those steps even though its simple but at least it is something that do patch up.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bitzizzix on July 08, 2021, 07:46:20 PM
Poverty alleviation is difficult to achieve but by no means impossible, and it seems that the problem of poverty is faced with apathy when freedom of speech and religion is violated in this country or elsewhere, people protest against each other globally, but when poverty violates the rights of half of the world's population, most of us turn away and move on with our lives without looking around.
especially socio-economically poor, because they have nothing and just have to fight very hard to survive.
It is time for us as children of the nation to take real steps to try to start from small things that are around us to form forums or small social action groups, and do not rule out the possibility of becoming a forum or social institution that has the potential to change society and especially the poor.

and I do it in the area around me forming a caring organization and it really helps them and if every area does something like that at least it can help the poverty around.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on July 09, 2021, 04:09:46 AM
Poverty will exist. Some countries may help the poor, but some small countries cannot help, so the poor are still poor. Everyone has their own way of life. Everyone's pursuit is different. The rich may lead a busy life. The poor live a happy life, the rich may enjoy it, the poor live a rich life, but there are also active people among the poor who succeed through their own efforts, and the rich may also fail and become poor due to investment failures. But in the world It will not completely eliminate the poor. It can only be said that the poor will work hard to get rich.

It is not the duty of the "rich" countries or corporations from these nations to help the poor ones. The poor countries are in such state, because of their own issues, such as population explosion and corruption. Examples are easy to find, such as Sub Saharan Africa and countries such as Afghanistan. They need to take care of these issues first, before taking the begging bowl in front of the rich nations. Because unless they resolve these issues, any assistance that is received from the richer nations will be stolen or misspent. 


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Keila Faith Villanueva on July 15, 2021, 07:24:07 AM
Although your thoughts touched me a bit, it cannot be changed. People at different levels will do different things. If there are no poor people in the world, I think there may be many lazy people who are unwilling to work, fight for themselves, and settle for the status quo. Or some war-torn countries whose governments are powerless. How can we help them?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Nora Olin on July 15, 2021, 07:35:22 AM
If machines replace human jobs, the unemployment rate should increase greatly. Knowledge is important, but some people with insufficient knowledge or middle-aged people may have become accustomed to manual labor, and machines have replaced them. If they have no income, machines will cause people to become poorer.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: JillianTaft on July 16, 2021, 02:41:31 AM
There are also rich people who started from scratch. I think the poor must study harder than others. The strong wins, spiritual wealth is the most important. If they rely on the help of others to get rich, but they do not have the ability to manage finances, they will eventually become poor, and relying on themselves is the safest.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: XUNing on July 16, 2021, 02:52:55 AM
There is a hierarchy in the world. It is impossible to eradicate poverty, only gradually alleviate poverty.
Everything in the world should be balanced. If poverty is eliminated to become rich, there will be no sense of competition and life will become meaningless.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: EvieLannister on July 16, 2021, 02:54:27 AM
It may reduce poverty, but it is impossible to eliminate poverty completely, because the global economy of COVID-19 has decreased. Even if the economy is slowly recovering, many poor families are still becoming poorer. Many ordinary families may be due to the economic downturn Have an impact. But these poor families are also working hard to reduce the poverty gap, but these efforts are insignificant, but the poor have a poor lifestyle, and they still have to spend every day happily.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on July 16, 2021, 03:30:30 AM
The more automation we face the more we need to take care of the unemployed people. Social benefits need to rise with the standard of living, it's just a matter of time until we get a base income by the government. In the end rich and poor are relative terms. If 90% of the population are Billionaires and 10% are only millionaires than we would consider them poor, even though they are millionaires.

There is no basis in saying that automation takes away jobs. When computers were first introduced in the 1980s, the same argument was being made. Here in India, the communist party cadre attacked businesses where computers were installed and destroyed them. Now the children of these same leaders are working in IT firms. If automation takes away jobs, then how did the unemployment rate went down in the 90s, when computers became more popular? Rather than taking away jobs, they created new opportunities.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: nhaila on July 16, 2021, 05:23:11 AM
Poverty is the one of the main curse In a country, no One can eliminate poverty at all. In primative world poverty belonged, today poverty exist and in the future world poverty will have. It couldn't be eliminated 100%...


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 16, 2021, 05:34:55 AM
It may reduce poverty, but it is impossible to eliminate poverty completely, because the global economy of COVID-19 has decreased. Even if the economy is slowly recovering, many poor families are still becoming poorer. Many ordinary families may be due to the economic downturn Have an impact. But these poor families are also working hard to reduce the poverty gap, but these efforts are insignificant, but the poor have a poor lifestyle, and they still have to spend every day happily.

Most of the progress that has been made against poverty during the last decade has been undone by the pandemic. In the worst affected countries such as Brazil and India, the number of people living in extreme poverty has gone up drastically. And the full impact from the pandemic is yet to appear. It will be visible in the next one or to years, as the governments run out of money for their stimulus packages. It is going to be difficult times for people across all social and economic classes. And the effects will be more amplified for those without significant savings.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bengsabeng on July 16, 2021, 03:17:14 PM
destiny determines everything. If working hard can make people rich, construction workers will be the richest. If intelligence made people rich, surely the person with the title of professor would be the richest man. all we have to do is keep trying and be grateful because that is the key to everything.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on July 16, 2021, 04:28:47 PM
Poverty is the one of the main curse In a country, no One can eliminate poverty at all. In primative world poverty belonged, today poverty exist and in the future world poverty will have. It couldn't be eliminated 100%...
- But you can look at the percentage of poverty from primitive times and compare it to the most recent years in a particular country, you'd be surprised at how much income and poverty have improved, a project like poverty eradication will take many centuries to complete, rapid progress is impossible, sometimes with unexpected difficulties, poverty will rise again and this current pandemic is such a process but that doesn't mean the eradication of poverty will stop, time will prove that the complete elimination of poverty is possible


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Barinekapaul on July 16, 2021, 07:48:56 PM
The Idea of having a world that is free of poverty is what is not easy to come by from my own point of view.
Poverty cannot stop as far as there is growth and population increase, as the available resources become scarce as the day goes by.
So living in a poverty-free world is something that is hard to achieve.

The rich who controls the wealth keep aspiring to get more and can go any miles as far as they get more money, thereby living and making the poor become more poorer why the rich continue in their riches, making equality not achievable.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: marine4u on July 17, 2021, 01:35:44 AM
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Poverty cannot go away, as long as stupidity, laziness, and corruption persist. no one in this world wants to be poor but there is nothing they can do when they are still stupid and lazy. I once asked a lot of poor people randomly and the words that came out of them were "just living like this is comfortable"
Lol, Certainly worldwide there will be no more poverty, but it is up to the government apparatus of each country to act and change the state more positively, promote economic and social development, fight inflation,  unemployment reduction is a rather difficult topic.  Especially during the current covid pandemic.  It has increased poverty rates.  I believe so and think that it will take a long time to achieve everyone's wishes.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on July 17, 2021, 04:00:15 AM
Lol, Certainly worldwide there will be no more poverty, but it is up to the government apparatus of each country to act and change the state more positively, promote economic and social development, fight inflation,  unemployment reduction is a rather difficult topic.  Especially during the current covid pandemic.  It has increased poverty rates.  I believe so and think that it will take a long time to achieve everyone's wishes.

The government has certain responsibilities, such as making healthcare and education accessible to all. But at the same time, I would say that the general population should not rely entirely on the government to get out of poverty. The government can only provide opportunities. It is the responsibility of the individuals to make use of these opportunities. We also need to remember that there is a considerable section of the population, which rely solely on government handouts. How they will get out of poverty, if they solely rely on these freebies and handouts?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: xSkylarx on July 17, 2021, 04:15:26 AM
Lol, Certainly worldwide there will be no more poverty, but it is up to the government apparatus of each country to act and change the state more positively, promote economic and social development, fight inflation,  unemployment reduction is a rather difficult topic.  Especially during the current covid pandemic.  It has increased poverty rates.  I believe so and think that it will take a long time to achieve everyone's wishes.

The government has certain responsibilities, such as making healthcare and education accessible to all. But at the same time, I would say that the general population should not rely entirely on the government to get out of poverty. The government can only provide opportunities. It is the responsibility of the individuals to make use of these opportunities. We also need to remember that there is a considerable section of the population, which rely solely on government handouts. How they will get out of poverty, if they solely rely on these freebies and handouts?

Agree! There are numerous actions that the government should do. We all know that there is a group of people that is solely reliant on government funds, such as when the government gives them money on a monthly basis to assist them. However, as you can see, some of these people are not maximizing the money they receive, instead they are just  buying something and then wait for the government to give them more money. They really don't used to earn more money from it like they should have a business or others that could also supply them with food or money instead of just waiting on the government.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Caldear on July 17, 2021, 06:19:46 AM
It is impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world. Everything should be balanced. Poverty and wealth should coexist. We can balance the economic, technological, and spiritual gaps and reduce poverty through study and hard work. Others will choose to give up because they are afraid of the risk of investment. Risky currencies like Bitcoin can often bring higher profits, and they miss the opportunity for wealth freedom.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Golftech on July 17, 2021, 07:19:08 AM
It is impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world. Everything should be balanced. Poverty and wealth should coexist. We can balance the economic, technological, and spiritual gaps and reduce poverty through study and hard work. Others will choose to give up because they are afraid of the risk of investment. Risky currencies like Bitcoin can often bring higher profits, and they miss the opportunity for wealth freedom.

Yep! it's impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world, but we can lessen the numbers of those families that are

suffering with this problem. Withthe fair distributions of government fund, and with proper educational services through out

the chance that poverty will be lessen. Not that easy but very possible since once a person have good educational attainment

his chance to choose a better life is what he first to aimed.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Chato1977 on July 17, 2021, 08:10:41 AM


Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
No its not !!!

Imagine if everyone is almost living n good condition and there will never poor, who will serve the other?
i mean who will be needing to be slave or workers if we are having the same lifestyle?

there must be poor so there will be rich and Middle.

this is how the world works and that will be the lifestyle forever.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: xmonkeyx on July 17, 2021, 06:48:49 PM


Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
No its not !!!

Imagine if everyone is almost living n good condition and there will never poor, who will serve the other?
i mean who will be needing to be slave or workers if we are having the same lifestyle?

there must be poor so there will be rich and Middle.

this is how the world works and that will be the lifestyle forever.
I think poor is not like that, poor is not enough, unable to meet daily needs. that's poor in my opinion. and that of course can be overcome in this world by each country.
and if it's like you said, it's definitely not possible. if everyone had money then life wouldn't go on anymore. we all have different standards of living. everyone stays in their respective professions and has enough to make ends meet. Of course it will happen if the leaders in this world can be fair and willing to do it without any exceptions.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MinoRaiola on July 17, 2021, 08:28:22 PM
Poverty must first be defined. If it is only about buying food or producing it yourself through agriculture, then it really is extreme poverty. The next level is not owning a house or living in a warm and dry place. So at level 3 I see complete health and the possibility of good treatment in the event of illness. If you do these 3 things you are not poor, in my opinion. Everything beyond that is wealth in different classes of life. And i think there will unfortunately always be poverty, it is in the nature of mankind and stupid greed.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jossiel on July 17, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
It is impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world. Everything should be balanced. Poverty and wealth should coexist. We can balance the economic, technological, and spiritual gaps and reduce poverty through study and hard work. Others will choose to give up because they are afraid of the risk of investment. Risky currencies like Bitcoin can often bring higher profits, and they miss the opportunity for wealth freedom.
Highly unlikely.

The two is balanced and that's why they're existing from one country to another. But what if sometime it comes that there will be those rich people going to those poor areas and building and helping those community to become richer?

I guess that's Utopia.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sayeds56 on July 25, 2021, 01:36:16 PM
Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent on the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage of the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

There isn't a perfect life even during the old times. If we're all rich, we'll never persevere and work hard just like most of us do. There is poverty for us to work hard and reach our goals. We could only eliminate poverty if all people would know how to take opportunities and persevere to change their lives instead of relying on the government.

Very well said. The poverty can only go away when everybody will learn how to take benefits of available opportunities and make use of it  by monetizing it to improve overall well being of their families. The governments alone can not eradicate poverty without active participation of people but government should create Skill centers where every body can take admission with minimal fee and skilled workers should be provided loans with minimum interest rate so that they can establish their own small business based on their skills, this can help a lot to reduce poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ngemmeng on July 25, 2021, 01:56:50 PM
It is impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world. Everything should be balanced. Poverty and wealth should coexist. We can balance the economic, technological, and spiritual gaps and reduce poverty through study and hard work. Others will choose to give up because they are afraid of the risk of investment. Risky currencies like Bitcoin can often bring higher profits, and they miss the opportunity for wealth freedom.
yes it is true, like day and night or heaven and earth. The poor and rich will forever be on earth, but the problem here is how the government is able to provide assistance or reduce the burden of the poor. the government can provide capital assistance or provide basic necessities every month.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Semar Mesem on July 25, 2021, 03:32:03 PM
Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent on the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage of the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

There isn't a perfect life even during the old times. If we're all rich, we'll never persevere and work hard just like most of us do. There is poverty for us to work hard and reach our goals. We could only eliminate poverty if all people would know how to take opportunities and persevere to change their lives instead of relying on the government.

Very well said. The poverty can only go away when everybody will learn how to take benefits of available opportunities and make use of it  by monetizing it to improve overall well being of their families. The governments alone can not eradicate poverty without active participation of people but government should create Skill centers where every body can take admission with minimal fee and skilled workers should be provided loans with minimum interest rate so that they can establish their own small business based on their skills, this can help a lot to reduce poverty.

I think the government has the most role in alleviating poverty, with large funds, of course, the government can provide training and then provide capital to anyone who wants to do business. Besides that, the policy to side with the poor is something that must be done so that no one is poor anymore


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: herurist on July 25, 2021, 04:36:41 PM
your thinking is very good and i am quite impressed with the thread you submitted.
but when it says life without anyone is poor it will not happen.
there are several reasons why this will not happen, one of them is like there are no superiors and subordinates because if everyone becomes rich, surely no one will want to be someone else's subordinate because they already have wealth and this can be very dangerous because everyone will start to be lazy to work and do not want to be ordered by other people which in the end the existing facilities such as restaurants or fast food will definitely not exist because there are no workers who want to do their jobs.
that's just one example and of course there are many more examples that are not very concrete why everyone can't live if everyone gets rich


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: maisao1991 on July 25, 2021, 04:48:33 PM
It is a fact that poverty in the world still exists and cannot be stopped. Maybe this is the rule of life. If there were no rich or poor people, who would create the product, can you imagine what if all things were rich?


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kimonoe on July 26, 2021, 04:32:02 AM
Ever since poor people exist, even on the time of Bible so I think this kind of scenario is not possible to happen. There will always someone ahead of us and we have to accept that fact and start working for our dreams.

Poor people are too dependent on the government, they are afraid to take the risk and since many are greedy they are taking advantage of the poor. This is a big problem of our society that even Bitcoin can’t solve.

There isn't a perfect life even during the old times. If we're all rich, we'll never persevere and work hard just like most of us do. There is poverty for us to work hard and reach our goals. We could only eliminate poverty if all people would know how to take opportunities and persevere to change their lives instead of relying on the government.

Very well said. The poverty can only go away when everybody will learn how to take benefits of available opportunities and make use of it  by monetizing it to improve overall well being of their families. The governments alone can not eradicate poverty without active participation of people but government should create Skill centers where every body can take admission with minimal fee and skilled workers should be provided loans with minimum interest rate so that they can establish their own small business based on their skills, this can help a lot to reduce poverty.

I think the government has the most role in alleviating poverty, with large funds, of course, the government can provide training and then provide capital to anyone who wants to do business. Besides that, the policy to side with the poor is something that must be done so that no one is poor anymore
indeed the government is responsible for the poor and neglected children, but sometimes the problem is not that easy. many poor people are given assistance for business, but apart from their limited thinking and mental factors, luck is also the main reason. I think this is like a natural law where every country must have poor people


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Brus123 on July 26, 2021, 06:04:02 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I think it is economically impossible. Not all countries have resources to provide their people with all that is necessary. Moreover, I think it is a choice of everybody to be poor or rich. If you are lazy and all you want is just to have stable incomes in an office and you don’t learn something new and new ways to earn, you will be poor, so the choice of everyone.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Rasa nanas on July 26, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
It is impossible to completely eliminate poverty in the world. Everything should be balanced. Poverty and wealth should coexist. We can balance the economic, technological, and spiritual gaps and reduce poverty through study and hard work. Others will choose to give up because they are afraid of the risk of investment. Risky currencies like Bitcoin can often bring higher profits, and they miss the opportunity for wealth freedom.
yes it is true, like day and night or heaven and earth. The poor and rich will forever be on earth, but the problem here is how the government is able to provide assistance or reduce the burden of the poor. the government can provide capital assistance or provide basic necessities every month.
Poverty can be removed from the face of the earth if all governments work honestly and truly utilize the natural wealth of the country for the welfare of the people. the question now is whether all government officials can work honestly? this is what makes poverty difficult to erase from the face of the earth.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: StanleyBoyle on August 07, 2021, 05:51:40 AM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Melody kdl on August 07, 2021, 07:12:18 AM
Every country will have poverty-stricken areas, not just countries. This problem will exist at any time. This is a phenomenon. In addition, currency is the embodiment of labor value. Everyone is rich, are there still people who create labor value? Then the money has no value. I think what OP said will not be realized.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Avantikakaur on August 07, 2021, 07:30:39 AM
There will be poverty in all the countries of the world it is not possible to be absolutely free from the world behind the whole thing is the obligatory indifference of man towards man caused by the present instrument. Not two or four people in the world, billions of people are unemployed year after year we are just finishing the task of weaving a web of interpretation. No one seems to have any worries about the priceless resources we are wasting, the endless suffering we are causing to the people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MKings on August 07, 2021, 07:51:11 AM
In any case, there will still be poverty in the world. Some countries are generally poor. Because the country is not rich, their productivity and technology are underdeveloped. They can only progress slowly, while developed countries can develop better and better.
The rich in the world have no obligation to help the poor, and everyone will not feel that they have enough money.
But poverty does not affect life. It's just that the lifestyles of the two are different.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: YouYou0321 on August 07, 2021, 07:54:26 AM
If everyone in the world is rich, what would a world be like without poverty?

If you are talking about infinite resources in this world, then this is a great world, but you and I all know that resources are limited in the real world.

There is no poverty in a world of low quality.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jossiel on August 07, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.
It's not going to happen.

It's like having a world that has all businessman and there are no people that shall work for them because everyone is rich. There's the balance in the world.

And that's the sad reality that has been happening ever since the old days and it will continue in the future.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kusman on August 09, 2021, 09:33:34 PM
It is actually possible that mankind could put an end to poverty. But they don't want to deal with such thing so nothing has changed about it so far. People can still be workers etc.. But they shouldn't be paid unfairly in any country. They aren't working for nothing in the end. They also want to have what they want. It is the duty of governments to offer better conditions for these people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Dragonfund on August 10, 2021, 02:35:26 AM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.

It's almost impossible for the world to live without labour and as long as that exists, poverty will always be around, there is no any side to it.
The day it stop, that will be the day money and value may cease to exist. As long as there are others willing to offer cheap labour, it can never be eradicate though it may  be reduce.
Poverty create level and this level has created difference as among us, the moment that ceese to exist, even the president of a nation sovereign power will be useless.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on August 10, 2021, 04:16:36 AM
It's almost impossible for the world to live without labour and as long as that exists, poverty will always be around, there is no any side to it.
The day it stop, that will be the day money and value may cease to exist. As long as there are others willing to offer cheap labour, it can never be eradicate though it may  be reduce.
Poverty create level and this level has created difference as among us, the moment that ceese to exist, even the president of a nation sovereign power will be useless.

You are not getting it. "Cheap labour" exists, because supply outstrips demand. And this oversupply will be there as long as human population increases without any limit. The planet is not able to sustain such huge human population. At the most, it can sustain 1-2 billion people. But the world population is estimated to reach 12 billion by 2100. That means that there will be an oversupply of labour and it will ensure that the pay scale remains low. Salaries are high in countries that have managed to limit population growth.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: King Khaizan on August 10, 2021, 11:05:33 AM
All of us want to be rich and no one wants to be poor. But in fact, the number of poor people is hundreds of times more than the rich. This fact is not only in our day, but has happened since the early days of human reproduction. Likewise, the human desire to be rich has existed since time immemorial. It is the same with people's pride in wealth and considers the glory and honor to be in people whose wealth or high position has emerged thousands of years ago.

In my opinion, rich and poor are purely God's gifts.

Only God can determine whether someone is rich or not. Therefore, being rich has nothing to do with intelligence, higher education or descent. How many rich people, even though their intelligence is mediocre, or have not graduated from college or have never had a tertiary education or their parents are not rich. So rich can not be engineered by humans. If humans can manipulate themselves or others to become rich, we will inevitably see that the richest people are the smartest in school and the increase in the number of rich people in this world is growing fantastically so that the number of poor people is getting thinner or maybe no longer exists.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: jossiel on August 10, 2021, 11:31:34 AM
It is actually possible that mankind could put an end to poverty. But they don't want to deal with such thing so nothing has changed about it so far. People can still be workers etc.. But they shouldn't be paid unfairly in any country. They aren't working for nothing in the end. They also want to have what they want. It is the duty of governments to offer better conditions for these people.
Possible but.

We will never find that to happen for most of the countries in the world. It's one of the wish that we cannot ever see and make it happen. But for some countries even if they're rich already, there will still be those people that are on the poverty threshold.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Semar Mesem on August 10, 2021, 01:43:19 PM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.

Currently too many people are greedy and don't care about others, their wealth can not run out up to 10 generations but they don't care about people who are hungry, poverty seems impossible to disappear as long as many people are greedy and do everything they can to get rich.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: conected on August 10, 2021, 02:05:40 PM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.

Currently too many people are greedy and don't care about others, their wealth can not run out up to 10 generations but they don't care about people who are hungry, poverty seems impossible to disappear as long as many people are greedy and do everything they can to get rich.
- I would like to complain about such people when I stand on the position of someone who likes to talk about morality and social justice but in fact, they have efforts, their greed can only be called a bad point but this action is not bad and does not affect others, the result they have is a process of their labor, they still give charity in times of need and sometimes their selfishness is normal. They are not the main cause of poverty and the poor have no special relationship with them, envy and blame them, that is impossible


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Xampeuu on August 10, 2021, 02:12:02 PM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.

Currently too many people are greedy and don't care about others, their wealth can not run out up to 10 generations but they don't care about people who are hungry, poverty seems impossible to disappear as long as many people are greedy and do everything they can to get rich.
but there are also rich people who carry out social actions even in fantastic numbers, because indeed they (the poor) cannot be given just one help, indeed this becomes complicated, when we give business or work to them, but not all of them have the enthusiasm to change his life, so that it seems impossible to exclude the poor in a country


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ARTURVH on August 11, 2021, 06:07:00 AM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
If hunger is poverty, then it is no problem to eradicate hunger, if poverty is a comparison. Then obviously impossible.
To solve "poverty" is not to equalize the rich and the poor, but to allow all those who wish to get rid of the current situation to have a way, or at least feel that there is hope that they can go on


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on August 11, 2021, 09:51:52 AM
All of us want to be rich and no one wants to be poor. But in fact, the number of poor people is hundreds of times more than the rich. This fact is not only in our day, but has happened since the early days of human reproduction. Likewise, the human desire to be rich has existed since time immemorial. It is the same with people's pride in wealth and considers the glory and honor to be in people whose wealth or high position has emerged thousands of years ago.

In my opinion, rich and poor are purely God's gifts.

Only God can determine whether someone is rich or not. Therefore, being rich has nothing to do with intelligence, higher education or descent. How many rich people, even though their intelligence is mediocre, or have not graduated from college or have never had a tertiary education or their parents are not rich. So rich can not be engineered by humans. If humans can manipulate themselves or others to become rich, we will inevitably see that the richest people are the smartest in school and the increase in the number of rich people in this world is growing fantastically so that the number of poor people is getting thinner or maybe no longer exists.

As for me, it is more correct to compare with physical processes - it is like matter and antimatter ... Poverty is antimatter that only absorbs, but does not produce a sufficient amount of "useful energy". Wealth, or even the "middle class" is the generation of cash flows, development, progress, production of useful entities, "positive energy." And only an unbalanced system (when there is "light and dark" energies) lives in motion, a balanced system is stable and immobile. And life is a movement, so there will never be equality ... Well, or rather, at some point, general complete equality will come, but this will coincide with the death of humanity.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sir Legend on August 11, 2021, 10:20:43 AM
It is very possible to reach that kind of world. Although it looks very far away now, the world created by the Creator should not be like this. The evolution of human beings on earth will definitely realize our ideal world, and a world like heaven will come true. It just takes time and needsThe lead of a big event.

The world was created to need each other, it is impossible for a world without the poor because those who work hard and become laborers are poor people, if everyone is rich then no one wants to be a farmer, fisherman and so on. poor and rich need and benefit each other so that life can go on.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 11, 2021, 10:34:42 AM
The world was created to need each other, it is impossible for a world without the poor because those who work hard and become laborers are poor people, if everyone is rich then no one wants to be a farmer, fisherman and so on. poor and rich need and benefit each other so that life can go on.

That is not true. There are countries with hardly anyone living in poverty, such as Switzerland and Norway. There are laborers in these countries as well. But the difference is that they are paid at decent rates. It depends on the strength of the economy. If the economy is strong and the population is small, then irrespective of the job everyone will be paid good salaries. On the other hand, if the economy is in a poor state and there is an oversupply of labor, then the wage levels will be very low (India, African nations.etc).


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Charot12345 on August 11, 2021, 02:14:10 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Well, having no poor is imposible as long as there are:

1. People who want to be at the top and be richer than the other with no contentment and consideration.
2. A corrupt, and power abuser government officials
3. People who are too greedy for money
4. People who have too big family but they can't support, no family planning.
5. Unequal oppurtunities given to poor and middle class

Poverty is always there and every country has it. And also we can't eliminate it, but it was on us if we will be one of the people who are at the bottom of the hierarchy or at the top.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: MKings on August 12, 2021, 06:23:59 AM
Poverty is a relatively relative term, and everyone can define poverty.
If poverty is eliminated, it means that the world is equal and fair.
The most basic way to get rid of poverty is to rely on labor and get how much money you do. But it is difficult to cross classes. The more you go up, the more you need to broaden your horizons and increase your knowledge reserves.
Poor people are slow to accept information and will accept wrong information.
Learn to control risks, control risks, control desires, and save money.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: virasog on August 12, 2021, 08:55:06 AM
Poverty is a relatively relative term, and everyone can define poverty.
If poverty is eliminated, it means that the world is equal and fair.
The most basic way to get rid of poverty is to rely on labor and get how much money you do. But it is difficult to cross classes. The more you go up, the more you need to broaden your horizons and increase your knowledge reserves.
Poor people are slow to accept information and will accept wrong information.
Learn to control risks, control risks, control desires, and save money.

No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bosede1 on August 12, 2021, 10:53:31 AM
In Economics, we say anybody who is below the absolute line is poor and by this, it means not being able to provide for three basic needs of life; food, clothing, and shelter. I don't think the world can be rid of poverty with this measure, it can just be monitored and reduced to the barest minimum.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: carlisle1 on August 12, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
Poverty is a relatively relative term, and everyone can define poverty.
If poverty is eliminated, it means that the world is equal and fair.
The most basic way to get rid of poverty is to rely on labor and get how much money you do. But it is difficult to cross classes. The more you go up, the more you need to broaden your horizons and increase your knowledge reserves.
Poor people are slow to accept information and will accept wrong information.
Learn to control risks, control risks, control desires, and save money.

No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.

Logically right, if all have the same level who's going to do the job.

Though poverty can be less if people are capable to have proper educations, if they can get equal opportunities the chance is high for the not to suffer.

The fate is different from people who have the good education, the foundation ponder your future.



Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 12, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.

It doesn't matter. The question here is whether the world can be without poverty or not. Poverty may cease to exist, but the wealth disparity may remain. Wealth equality is theoretically possible only in socialist countries. And socialism is a failed concept, as seen from infinite number of examples. Personally it is possible for the governments to manage poverty, if overall wealth levels are high (irrespective of wealth disparity). But that is not possible, in case the overall wealth levels are low. The governments can tax the rich, and distribute a part of it to the poor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: ChiBitCTy on August 12, 2021, 02:23:06 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Well of course laziness is the result of many people not having "good living".. but with that said, there are countless people whom are poor and have zero chance of ever changing that no matter how hard they work or what they do.  Imagine growing up in a country like Syria, there are countless people there who have absolutely no control over how their lives turn out.  Very sad.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: oHnK on August 12, 2021, 04:11:47 PM
In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Well of course laziness is the result of many people not having "good living".. but with that said, there are countless people whom are poor and have zero chance of ever changing that no matter how hard they work or what they do.  Imagine growing up in a country like Syria, there are countless people there who have absolutely no control over how their lives turn out.  Very sad.

However the condition of our country and residence when I believe in one sentence that no one can change the fate of a people if the people themselves who don't want to change it. Syria, a country known for its controversy because it is always at war, is one of the countries that has a lot of poor people. if they care about their life and future I'm sure no society wants their country to continue to be a place of war and even become a terrorist base.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Assface16678 on August 12, 2021, 04:44:55 PM
I think yes, because we already have the money and the technology to help the poor get up and eventually support themselves, they're just there because our human nature is greedy, we aren't naturally altruistic and we were raised to think of ourselves first before anything else. I think with all the money Bezos, Gates, Musk and the other billionaires out there, we can probably eradicate poverty and hunger, not to mention that we will advance much faster as a civilization because everyone has equal opportunity in terms of education, I think we've lost billions of brilliant minds already because of our selfishness, they're in the sweatshops and factories, toiling over nothing not knowing that they have the potential.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: mojun7982 on August 12, 2021, 04:48:28 PM
No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.

It doesn't matter. The question here is whether the world can be without poverty or not. Poverty may cease to exist, but the wealth disparity may remain. Wealth equality is theoretically possible only in socialist countries. And socialism is a failed concept, as seen from infinite number of examples. Personally it is possible for the governments to manage poverty, if overall wealth levels are high (irrespective of wealth disparity). But that is not possible, in case the overall wealth levels are low. The governments can tax the rich, and distribute a part of it to the poor.

Isn't poverty as a quantitative measure also a moving target? Even if hunger and thirst isn't a thing anymore, maybe you still count as bloody poor and disadvantaged in thirty years from now when you are still driving a Tesla to your workplace in the morning while the middle and upper class is already flying with drones. Now from today's perspective we would say, hey there are worse things in life, but poverty may remain a relative issue. Others are faster than you, more efficient than you, have better computers (or one at all). Others have healthier food, live longer, cleaner water and whatever you can think of. The wealth disparity will remain as a fact, but whether people are overall more satisfied with life is an important question.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: geegaw on August 13, 2021, 03:50:18 PM
Poverty is a relatively relative term, and everyone can define poverty.
If poverty is eliminated, it means that the world is equal and fair.
The most basic way to get rid of poverty is to rely on labor and get how much money you do. But it is difficult to cross classes. The more you go up, the more you need to broaden your horizons and increase your knowledge reserves.
Poor people are slow to accept information and will accept wrong information.
Learn to control risks, control risks, control desires, and save money.

No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.
Equally distributed in a day but the future is still ahead, the intellectual and environmental gap and the work that each person is doing will take away the assets of those who are limited in this problems, more precisely, what a person can do creates value and judgment around them, can't let light jobs have the same salary as creators or big bosses, society will gradually lose the sense of development with people's relaxation. Equality only creates more poverty while discrimination increases the opportunity to compete


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Kayum10029 on August 13, 2021, 08:50:12 PM
It is difficult to imagine that there will be no poverty in the world, but it is not impossible. Poverty is a congenital problem of people. People suffer from poverty due to various obstacles. The richest country in the world Today, it has been able to stand tall as the richest country in the world by observing various issues word for word. I believe that poverty will be alleviated if some rules given by the government follow the Tantric plan.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tiCeR on August 13, 2021, 11:17:33 PM
Poverty is a relatively relative term, and everyone can define poverty.
If poverty is eliminated, it means that the world is equal and fair.
The most basic way to get rid of poverty is to rely on labor and get how much money you do. But it is difficult to cross classes. The more you go up, the more you need to broaden your horizons and increase your knowledge reserves.
Poor people are slow to accept information and will accept wrong information.
Learn to control risks, control risks, control desires, and save money.

No matter how equally you divide the wealth there will still be some people who have more money and and still many people who have less money.
Without this the difference in the world we cannot find people who are willing to do odd jobs or fulfill them.
Equally distributed in a day but the future is still ahead, the intellectual and environmental gap and the work that each person is doing will take away the assets of those who are limited in this problems, more precisely, what a person can do creates value and judgment around them, can't let light jobs have the same salary as creators or big bosses, society will gradually lose the sense of development with people's relaxation. Equality only creates more poverty while discrimination increases the opportunity to compete

That is a narrow minded view although I get the point you are trying to make here. We still have inequalities that a developed, highly intelligent, empathetic species like we are shouldn't allow to exist. If you take the nurse that is working 100 hours weeks and she can barely take care of their two children financially, we as a society should be sophisticated enough to figure that that is unacceptable. What are you going to tell the nurse in your Darwinistic style rhetoric? Work more hours to compete with the manager? Be more competitive? Who then is going to take care of you when you broke your neck and need 24/7 care for 120 days in a row in an intensive care unit? What about the psychological pressure nurses carry with them day in and day out? Do nurses see people dying everyday? Young kids, parents, people losing their loved ones and the nurses in the middle of those events? How many managers have to deal with death on a daily basis? What happens to a manager when he is fired? He gets a big check. What happens to the nurse when she leaves or gets fired? There are certainly problems in our world that are not to be explained by insufficient competitive endeavors.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ozero on August 14, 2021, 04:04:51 AM
Our world has never been rid of poor states and poor people in terms of providing them with material benefits at a more or less normal level. We could argue that the economies of states as a whole are developing and over time we can hope that the level of material security of each person, although unevenly, will grow.
It would be too optimistic and unrealistic. We are now on the verge of global climate change. Because of this, in a number of states, there will be a sharp shortage of food and water. In many states, it will be necessary to completely rebuild agriculture, which is becoming less predictable and more unprofitable. So there is no hope that poverty will eventually leave us.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on August 14, 2021, 04:19:10 AM
It is difficult to imagine that there will be no poverty in the world, but it is not impossible. Poverty is a congenital problem of people. People suffer from poverty due to various obstacles. The richest country in the world Today, it has been able to stand tall as the richest country in the world by observing various issues word for word. I believe that poverty will be alleviated if some rules given by the government follow the Tantric plan.

The richest country in the world right now is Qatar (in terms of per capital income). They became the richest as a result of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) exports and not as a result of "observing various issues word for word". And now the problem is that the other countries doesn't have natural gas or petroleum deposits like Qatar does. And even if they have, there are cases where these resources are not managed properly. The best example is that of Venezuela. Despite having some of the largest petroleum deposits in the world, a majority of the population is still living in abject poverty. The same can be said about other oil producers like Russia, Angola, Nigeria and Iraq.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Ngemmeng on August 14, 2021, 04:51:36 AM
It is difficult to imagine that there will be no poverty in the world, but it is not impossible. Poverty is a congenital problem of people. People suffer from poverty due to various obstacles. The richest country in the world Today, it has been able to stand tall as the richest country in the world by observing various issues word for word. I believe that poverty will be alleviated if some rules given by the government follow the Tantric plan.

The richest country in the world right now is Qatar (in terms of per capital income). They became the richest as a result of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) exports and not as a result of "observing various issues word for word". And now the problem is that the other countries doesn't have natural gas or petroleum deposits like Qatar does. And even if they have, there are cases where these resources are not managed properly. The best example is that of Venezuela. Despite having some of the largest petroleum deposits in the world, a majority of the population is still living in abject poverty. The same can be said about other oil producers like Russia, Angola, Nigeria and Iraq.
I agree with you, abundant natural resources are not a guarantee that all people will be free from poverty. my country has many big gold mines and other natural resources such as oil and coal, but not a few people in my country are still below the poverty line.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Alisha-k on August 14, 2021, 05:29:05 AM
First poverty is the state of the mind. One is only poor if the choose to be. It takes dedication and hard work to grow above poverty but when it comes to development and nation's growth then a collective effort is needed. Lots  of persons came from poor homes and turned their story around through dedicated hard work. Poverty is more of a choice.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: syedakhlaque on August 14, 2021, 05:32:35 AM
It is the reality that "the best investment for a Government is to invest huge capital on education. This investment will give you in return: the best doctor, engineer, and the best expert of all departments of life. Through this investment, there will be good planning and development, and your country will progress by leaps and bound . All these procedures will eradicate the poor and poverty of your country. So the spread of education and awareness is the only solution to poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Baihaki Khaizan on August 14, 2021, 06:20:47 AM
Eradicating poverty is indeed difficult to realize but that does not mean it is impossible.

I see there are many poverty reduction programs carried out by countries, including every individual or institution.

However, nothing has been able to change the quality of life of people from the lower layers. Many institutions or foundations or also the government make programs that are not sustainable, so they only last for a few years, because they are stuck on the problem of finding further funds.

So, the right solution in my opinion is, every rich person should always spend a little of their income to help their economy.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: alpamar99 on August 14, 2021, 06:39:54 AM
Eradicating poverty is indeed difficult to realize but that does not mean it is impossible.

I see there are many poverty reduction programs carried out by countries, including every individual or institution.

However, nothing has been able to change the quality of life of people from the lower layers. Many institutions or foundations or also the government make programs that are not sustainable, so they only last for a few years, because they are stuck on the problem of finding further funds.

So, the right solution in my opinion is, every rich person should always spend a little of their income to help their economy.
this will not have a significant impact. and sometimes even though government programs are very good at making plans for poverty alleviation, the reality in implementation is sometimes not in accordance with the existing reality because there are so many obstacles in it such as for example corrupt officials or funds are not channeled properly.
Besides that, the rich have to distribute some of their wealth to people in need. It also seems easy to say, but back to the application of this, it is not as easy as imagined, because in this way the government has to make specifications on the level of wealth and must make managers of the money that is used. generated by the rich.
other than that this kind of rule would not be accepted by some rich people.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Victorycoin on August 14, 2021, 07:45:42 AM
Poverty cannot be eradicated unless the standard of living is improved poor is very difficult to eradicate poverty. if the rich people of the society help the poor people of the society then they will be able to improve their quality of life but there are many differences between the rich and the poor in order to alleviate poverty, inequality must be eliminated and the poor must be given their fair share without being exploited. This requires strict legal action by the government.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on August 15, 2021, 02:58:05 AM
I agree with you, abundant natural resources are not a guarantee that all people will be free from poverty. my country has many big gold mines and other natural resources such as oil and coal, but not a few people in my country are still below the poverty line.

The natural resources belong to the citizens of the country. But if the regime is corrupt, then they will loot these resources for their own and the population may be forced to live in poverty. Look at the case with Russia. They are the largest country (in terms of surface area in the world) and they have some of the largest deposits of natural resources. But most of the population lives in poverty, as a result of decades of stealing by the regime. On the other hand, countries such as Singapore became very rich, despite having hardly any natural resources.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DibiaVxosis on August 15, 2021, 03:49:02 AM
Technically, those at the top can solve the poverty but why would they do it? Solving poverty means that they can't find desperate people that will do their bidding so they can stay at the top. I agree that it is possible but we have to be able to convince those at the top that they will benefit more if there isn't poverty, but I know that it will be impossible because once the people at the poverty line is saved, the middle class will not have anything to be fearful because I believe that the rich put the poor people so the middle class are put in their place protecting what they currently from being stolen by the poor.
That's just the mentality of human, the rich always feel if the poor get rich no one will be their errand boy or house maid to carry on their daily activities at home so this is more reason the rich refuses to make the poor more informed and educated so as to fight poverty, instead there offer them menial jobs so as to limit their focus to be in the little salary there get and live their lives in the range of amount they get.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Wong Gendheng on August 15, 2021, 07:44:53 AM
Eradicating poverty is indeed difficult to realize but that does not mean it is impossible.

I see there are many poverty reduction programs carried out by countries, including every individual or institution.

However, nothing has been able to change the quality of life of people from the lower layers. Many institutions or foundations or also the government make programs that are not sustainable, so they only last for a few years, because they are stuck on the problem of finding further funds.

So, the right solution in my opinion is, every rich person should always spend a little of their income to help their economy.

Poverty will never go away, we can only improve the standard of living of a poor person but it will not disappear 100%, even many countries have made various efforts to eliminate poverty from hundreds of years ago but there are still poor countries, in my opinion this is not problem because poverty is a part of life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: suryana on August 15, 2021, 08:11:50 AM
Eradicating poverty is indeed difficult to realize but that does not mean it is impossible.

I see there are many poverty reduction programs carried out by countries, including every individual or institution.

However, nothing has been able to change the quality of life of people from the lower layers. Many institutions or foundations or also the government make programs that are not sustainable, so they only last for a few years, because they are stuck on the problem of finding further funds.

So, the right solution in my opinion is, every rich person should always spend a little of their income to help their economy.

Poverty will never go away, we can only improve the standard of living of a poor person but it will not disappear 100%, even many countries have made various efforts to eliminate poverty from hundreds of years ago but there are still poor countries, in my opinion this is not problem because poverty is a part of life.
Totally agree with your opinion. Because indeed I believe in all countries have struggled to eradicate poverty , but poverty still exists . This proves that poverty cannot be eliminated 100%, not the government's fault either. But the individual's willingness to change is also the most important factor.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 15, 2021, 12:23:07 PM
Totally agree with your opinion. Because indeed I believe in all countries have struggled to eradicate poverty , but poverty still exists . This proves that poverty cannot be eliminated 100%, not the government's fault either. But the individual's willingness to change is also the most important factor.

Poverty doesn't exist in a handful of smaller countries such as Monaco and San Marino, but overall I agree with your views. But it is also important to remember that there can be two metrics to measure poverty. The first one is in an absolute sense. If someone doesn't have the ability to take care of his basic necessities (such as food and housing), then you can call him as poor. This absolute poverty doesn't exist in developed nations such as US and UK. The next metric is to use a relative measurement. If someone is earning below 25% of the average national salary, then you can label him as poor. This type of poverty exists almost everywhere.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: terrorJR on August 15, 2021, 01:43:59 PM
Totally agree with your opinion. Because indeed I believe in all countries have struggled to eradicate poverty , but poverty still exists . This proves that poverty cannot be eliminated 100%, not the government's fault either. But the individual's willingness to change is also the most important factor.

Poverty doesn't exist in a handful of smaller countries such as Monaco and San Marino, but overall I agree with your views. But it is also important to remember that there can be two metrics to measure poverty. The first one is in an absolute sense. If someone doesn't have the ability to take care of his basic necessities (such as food and housing), then you can call him as poor. This absolute poverty doesn't exist in developed nations such as US and UK. The next metric is to use a relative measurement. If someone is earning below 25% of the average national salary, then you can label him as poor. This type of poverty exists almost everywhere.
it is true as you said that monaco is one of the countries with 0% poverty and one of the richest countries because 30% of its citizens are billionaires.
but not all small countries are rich countries depending on government management in the economic sector.
and many countries whose governments have made a mistake in taking action, especially in the economic sector. just an example is the country nauru. a country that is indeed very rich in natural products but they are wrong in managing their finances and the result is now they are on the verge of collapse.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sanugarid on August 15, 2021, 02:35:44 PM
Yes it can, just remove the negative elements in the government and economy but mostly government like corruption, power hunger, discrimination, violence, and militarization, and I think that we will be good to go. And we can also be ruthless against big corporations like Amazon to pay their taxes and it can't be exempted and written off and no bribery or lobbying can get through the people that creates the laws, making those and we will be one step further to eradication of poverty. Creating a sustainable farming and abandoning religion could help too. I added religion because most wars are waged because of God hence the abandonment of religion, and what happens when there's war? That's right death and poverty.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Oilacris on August 15, 2021, 03:13:38 PM
Totally agree with your opinion. Because indeed I believe in all countries have struggled to eradicate poverty , but poverty still exists . This proves that poverty cannot be eliminated 100%, not the government's fault either. But the individual's willingness to change is also the most important factor.

Poverty doesn't exist in a handful of smaller countries such as Monaco and San Marino, but overall I agree with your views. But it is also important to remember that there can be two metrics to measure poverty. The first one is in an absolute sense. If someone doesn't have the ability to take care of his basic necessities (such as food and housing), then you can call him as poor. This absolute poverty doesn't exist in developed nations such as US and UK. The next metric is to use a relative measurement. If someone is earning below 25% of the average national salary, then you can label him as poor. This type of poverty exists almost everywhere.
it is true as you said that monaco is one of the countries with 0% poverty and one of the richest countries because 30% of its citizens are billionaires.
but not all small countries are rich countries depending on government management in the economic sector.
and many countries whose governments have made a mistake in taking action, especially in the economic sector. just an example is the country nauru. a country that is indeed very rich in natural products but they are wrong in managing their finances and the result is now they are on the verge of collapse.
Poverty is something a worldwide problem  that cant really be resolved out due to popularity increase and of course when it comes to economic state.We know  that as the population rises then its expected that demands or needs would be even more higher which if the needs wont able to cope up specially on  having decent job offers then it would turn out to be having some  shortage.In result? Poverty.

There are places in the world or countries which might really be excluded into this  situation but we cant really avoid the fact that there are still poor people who do reside on each country.

Thing here is  that government does really have the steps and plans on at least  resolving, it might not be totally but even just on the slightest try.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: EdenHazard on August 15, 2021, 03:31:23 PM
Poverty cannot be eradicated unless the standard of living is improved poor is very difficult to eradicate poverty. if the rich people of the society help the poor people of the society then they will be able to improve their quality of life but there are many differences between the rich and the poor in order to alleviate poverty, inequality must be eliminated and the poor must be given their fair share without being exploited. This requires strict legal action by the government.
If you always look at the higher standard of living you will never find a piece, but if you look down.. no matter how poor you are... you will always feel enough and even rich to live a good life.
to make a world without poverty.. simply put that mindset to each of them and do a real action to those who starving especially.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: 7788bitcoin on August 15, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Poverty cannot be eradicated unless the standard of living is improved poor is very difficult to eradicate poverty. if the rich people of the society help the poor people of the society then they will be able to improve their quality of life but there are many differences between the rich and the poor in order to alleviate poverty, inequality must be eliminated and the poor must be given their fair share without being exploited. This requires strict legal action by the government.
The main reason the poor are still struggling to make a living is that they think someone could help them eradicate the poverty and make a good life, instead of them making a change for themselves as everyone is up against themselves and everyone needs to struggle to make a good living. The only different is that how much hard work you are doing in a smart way and uplift the life.

The inequality is a myth, if you working hard and study when you have the opportunity then you do not need anyone's help to be successful in life and no one will control your life. If you spare that when you got the time to study then you will struggle in life and then what is the point of blaming others for the misery. I am telling this because i have heard about free education in third world countries for financially backward people and i am not sure how many are taking advantage of that a making a change for themselves.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on August 15, 2021, 04:31:54 PM
In my opinion, poverty is the lack of basic human needs and it is not possible to meet the basic needs of the people worldwide, but in many cases, it can be eradicated. It is absurd to totally reduce poverty in the world, however, it is feasible to decrease its rate. The biggest obstacle to poverty eradication is the inequality of people's moral thinking, rich-poor inequality, and lack of unity of social values. If the people in power and responsible people of the world work together, they can improve the overall condition of the people below the poverty line.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: DrBeer on August 16, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
There is a proposal!

Suppose that in a certain country, they decided to make everyone rich. Let's say that 1% was super-rich, we don't touch them, we throw them out of the scheme. But everyone else, the state, begins to pay the same amount of income every month, regardless of whether a person is working, unemployed, middle class or hereditary poor.
Now let's simulate such a society in our heads! And how will it behave? What will happen in the future? What will happen to the economy? Will a sustainable and high-quality result be achieved?

The answer will explain why the world will always be divided into richer and less richer :)


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Shamm on August 16, 2021, 10:35:44 PM
  Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Wawa2013 on August 16, 2021, 11:36:26 PM
  Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.

It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: AndySt on August 16, 2021, 11:50:36 PM
 Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.
It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.
Yes, a world without poverty is impossible in the modern world, because poverty, like wealth, is a relative concept and if there are rich people, there will definitely be poor people. Therefore, the task of any government is not to eradicate poverty, because this will not lead to anything good, and such attempts can simply lead to the fact that everyone will simply be poor. Therefore, the task of the Government is to prevent poverty from taking horrific forms that offend human dignity and to take measures to raise the incomes of the poorest strata. It is also necessary to intelligently organize the activities of the so-called social elevators, so that there is a constant movement between the social strata of society.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Wawa2013 on August 18, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.
Yes, a world without poverty is impossible in the modern world, because poverty, like wealth, is a relative concept and if there are rich people, there will definitely be poor people. Therefore, the task of any government is not to eradicate poverty, because this will not lead to anything good, and such attempts can simply lead to the fact that everyone will simply be poor. Therefore, the task of the Government is to prevent poverty from taking horrific forms that offend human dignity and to take measures to raise the incomes of the poorest strata. It is also necessary to intelligently organize the activities of the so-called social elevators, so that there is a constant movement between the social strata of society.

Because poverty will always exist, but that does not mean the government allows poverty to continue to increase. Although poverty cannot
be eliminated, its number can be reduced. So human life will be happier and more prosperous, if the number of poverty decreases. Actually,
there have been many government programs in various countries of the world to be able to reduce the number of poverty. If we feel that
we are poor, we must actively participate in the program that has been established by the government. Likewise, if we are rich people,
we must do something to support government programs. This means that overcoming poverty cannot expect what the government does,
but it requires the cooperation of all parties.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 18, 2021, 03:28:02 PM
The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.

That hasn't worked so far. Those governments which focus on improving education, infrastructure and medical care are increasingly being voted out of power, in favor of populist governments which distribute freebies. The latter is not a sustainable option. Freebies can't last for lifetime, while education is permanent. And the problem with freebies is that it results in indirect slavery. The poor are forced to vote for the political party, so that they could continue to receive the handouts. And on the other hand, it means that the politicians also have a reason to keep the lower class in the same financial state.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tabas on August 18, 2021, 04:21:16 PM
The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: oHnK on August 18, 2021, 05:29:29 PM
The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.

Reducing the level of poverty in the country is indeed the government's task, but the government's task so far is only in the form of dropping out of work because overcoming poverty, the government's version so far is to provide subsidies, even though with the existence of subsidies, poverty is maintained because it will not provide mental education for the poor to try to get out of the poverty line.  The role of the government is not enough without the will of the individual.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: tabas on August 18, 2021, 10:42:52 PM
The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.

Reducing the level of poverty in the country is indeed the government's task, but the government's task so far is only in the form of dropping out of work because overcoming poverty, the government's version so far is to provide subsidies, even though with the existence of subsidies, poverty is maintained because it will not provide mental education for the poor to try to get out of the poverty line.  The role of the government is not enough without the will of the individual.
Yeah, there should be some help from individuals, helping themselves to look for better opportunities that the government can't provide. And as well as those wealthy people and businessmen although they really don't have an obligation to do that.
If they will come along with it and wanting to have a good economy, they'll for sure give an impact to their economy as well as people living in the poverty line to have that self reliance.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Cnut237 on August 19, 2021, 06:42:13 AM
One of the best ways to reduce poverty is to reduce inequality. A lot of ultra rich people do give money away voluntarily, and try to solve some of the world's problems, the Gates Foundation being an example. But it shouldn't really be voluntary, if taxation worked properly. Jeff Bezos for example has around £200 billion. It's very difficult for us to visualise what that means, as the number is so far beyond what our human brains deal with in everyday life.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: Sithara007 on August 20, 2021, 04:10:35 AM
One of the best ways to reduce poverty is to reduce inequality. A lot of ultra rich people do give money away voluntarily, and try to solve some of the world's problems, the Gates Foundation being an example. But it shouldn't really be voluntary, if taxation worked properly. Jeff Bezos for example has around £200 billion. It's very difficult for us to visualise what that means, as the number is so far beyond what our human brains deal with in everyday life.

Bill Gates is like the worst possible example. Do you know that he caused a $20 billion loss to the United States treasury by moving his shares to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation? Since these shares have been moved to a charity organization, they will never be taxed. Also, Bill Gates divorced his wife, just because they wanted to decrease the tax bill further. I am not saying that he hasn't contributed to charity. But refusing to pay $20 billion in taxes, and then using a fraction of that amount to charity is not very ethical IMO.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: so98nn on August 20, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
If that really happened then we will not need currency to trade it with the material and stuff. Neither we will need it to pay for the services, May be for food etc. Think about the ancient world when there was no monetary system. What they did was miracle, they lived altogether they did not considered humans as different caste, or level of living standard. Everyone was the same, they used to live together so that they can survive from the wilderness of nature, animals and what not.

The good thing was they never separated on the basis of who got what in their wallets. Because there was no such thing.

Sadly, over the time things got complicated. Dominance got created so that someone can live the lavish life and rule the others for their benefits. Today, world lives by differentiation of castes, literacy, developments and many more things to count on.

To make everyone rich or discard the poverty everyone will need to live together with one pager understanding which seems impossible at this point.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: realcrypto on August 20, 2021, 09:05:14 AM
Riches comes through determination, dedication, self discipline and hard work, even those that inherited wealth know that someone pay the price for that generational riches. Poverty will still exist because some are not ready to do those things that will make them rich. Even though you distribute one million U.S dollar to everyone in the world some will still become poor in few weeks.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: 19Nov16 on August 20, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
Riches comes through determination, dedication, self discipline and hard work, even those that inherited wealth know that someone pay the price for that generational riches. Poverty will still exist because some are not ready to do those things that will make them rich. Even though you distribute one million U.S dollar to everyone in the world some will still become poor in few weeks.


Poverty will always exist, this is a natural law that cannot be eliminated, many things are done by poor people so that between rich and poor there are mutual benefits, if there are no poor people then no one becomes a farmer, laborer, fisherman, construction worker and so on.


Title: Re: Can the world be without poverty
Post by: NeverSop on August 20, 2021, 09:48:53 AM
There will be no poverty in the world as long as fiat is not printed and increases inflation and corruption.  We see that fiat is a unit to measure people's life and economy.  If each country's government can protect, achieve high efficiency in the fight against unemployment, fight poverty, health care and education…etc, this is the dream of the whole world but wish  which is increasingly being destroyed by covid19.