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March 04, 2021, 12:32:32 PM
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No, it can't. The reason is the capitalist economic system has poverty as a feature. It was supposed that socialism/communism would eradicate poverty, however the mistakes made and the enforcement of this system lead to even increased poverty.  What matters most since the first industrial revolution is energy. The price of it, that can come from coal, oil, nuclear power, and lately from solar and wind power. Then it is the distribution of wealth and the commitment of the private sector to increase the wealth of our societies. A successful corporation is one that strives to increase the wealth of the many. Sadly the goals of the people behind the scenes are to be in a godlike state and enjoy having more power. This is a game for most of them and it pitties me that the intelligence of some people is not consistent with the power and wealth they acquired. Perhaps if a power source close to being infinite is developed it could eradicate poverty. There is cold fusion research that will probably take decades, but it is a hope.
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March 04, 2021, 02:28:07 PM
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Government wont help poor people, they will support them, or do just a vision of support. But never take care. Just imagine how much government should invest in a poor man and wait till they get back that as taxes ? You how government will take care of hunger and poverty? Let hungry people eat poor people. Win=win situation.

How to fight poverty? What is the line, below which person is poor? How to even set this line, when people always adopt to situation? What to do with people that lives below this line, but their life suits them? Force them to be richer?

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March 04, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I think you are focusing the question wrong.

The one that gives you the answer you are looking for is:

Can the human being live without any type of money or exchange value?

Barter.

Would society be happy in a lifestyle flooded with bartering?



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March 04, 2021, 03:29:40 PM
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I don't think so. Everything should be in balance. There's poor, there's rich and there's at the middle. All these sectors have its own use and it has its purposes. If all of us are rich then nobody will ever pick up your garbage and put it in dump sites.
Why do you need people to put garbage in the bin if the person throwing it on street is careful and responsible enough to put it in the right place? Just because someone else wants to avoid his basic responsibilities, the other person has to do it. If robbers don't exist, we don't need police. As simple as that.

I think what people should focus more on is the needy... Not every poor person is in need of money, food (and things like that), and there are lots of people that seem rich but are needy.
You could build a society that have lots of poor people..but  no one lacks anything and everyone is contented.
If no one lacks anything then why even calling them poor. I think calling them middle class is safe because someone who has all his basic needs covered can't be termed as poor.

Building such a society is near impossible because there will some people who need more money while there are others who only think about today and don't have a vision for future, you can't force them to work and if they don't work they shouldn't get paid which ultimately brings things back to where we are.

Maybe getting enough work such that anyone who wants can easily get a job, is the ideal scenario.

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March 04, 2021, 04:10:50 PM
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Poverty is the accepted concept all over the world. Even in high GDP country like China facing the issue of poverty.The government should take care of the people in the poverty line.The government should give atleast the basic need to the people who suffering from poverty.
- Except for providing basic needs to the poor, governments need additional economic financing, enabling them to develop more knowledge and eradicate poverty that has long existed for them but the fact that I have seen is that some government employees have gouged out donations and the poor continue to be poor. And not only for these employees, but also the poor are also at fault when they get too involved in addiction and gambling issues, poverty eradication is too difficult when human psychology is unpredictable


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March 04, 2021, 06:14:01 PM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think it is possible, but we need to be direct, there is not going to be an instance in which everyone has the same amount of material possessions, what could happen is that our production and manufacturing costs could go down so dramatically thanks to new discoveries and inventions that the floor of what we consider poverty rises up, right now there are many people that do not have enough to eat or water to drink, if our technology improves we could get to the point in which this kind of poverty is eradicated but the rich will have a lot more than the rest of us.

Now whether that world will be a nice place to live on could be argued but it is possible even with our current structure not changing, as it is known that during the last decades poverty has in fact gone down around the world and in great part is because of our technological advances.

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March 04, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
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I think not, we can reduce the number of individuals who are experiencing poverty but we cannot totally make it zero. There are lot of factors why people facing poverty, corrupt government, hierarchy from their elders and etc. There are still some places that hard to reach, that's why the people out there remains on the life they used to.
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March 04, 2021, 08:17:26 PM
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Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.

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March 04, 2021, 08:39:50 PM
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Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.

Life couldnt really be perfect as others been thinking off it.There would be always those people who are on the top and to those people who are on the bottomg.

This triangle cant really be erased or simply this reality cant really be changed off but as mentioned this would be somehow be lessen up if the government and other
organizations will really be making out such step on fighting against poverty.

Everything should really be in balanced because if all people are on the rich side then no one will really working  to earn money.So thats will really give out
an imbalance.

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March 04, 2021, 08:48:09 PM
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Well the world was up until Cain and Able, after that well its been with us.  One of the things that is particularly ironic is that in order to buy BTC, on an exchange you have to present a bank account, identification, not everyone could or even can get a bank account, which to many seems hard to understand but in the US it is common for a bank to refuse someone a bank account if they do not have good credit.  (IF you think about that for a moment)  How can that be anything but yet another way to keep the poor,  (poor)  In the US those that are poor, have to pay more for automobile insurance, they have to pay more for rent, they cannot get as good of a job if they have bad or not really good credit.   These are all methods of keeping those that are poor in a constant state of remaining poor.   
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March 04, 2021, 09:11:09 PM
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In my opinion this all rich though's will never be happen since remember there are greedy people who want to have powers so for this some of them doesn't want to have equal wealth since no one will listen to the leaders of people have capabilities to build up theirselves that's why there's corruption since they want to control people and the economy.
That is just my opinion about this too, if someone is rich, that is an evidence of someone also poor and someone that are in between, life is not equal, life is not the same, we are not exposed to the same things, we are not having the same level of intelligence. The rich also can not want the poor to be like them, even if they wish, what is happening in the community can not make such to happen. The fact is just that all fingers are not equal, some will be rich while some will not be rich.

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March 04, 2021, 10:11:50 PM
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Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world. Yet, we do not have competent people to apply all the technological wonders humanity created. Through capital allocation people and governments (which are composed by people) "enforce" in a smaller or higher size their view of the world. The thing is we do not have enough wealthy people with courage and kindness. Many people go on the defensive side when they become rich enough and stop innovating. I'm not saying that is not alright, but there is a lack of people with a good, healthy vision of the world that also possess enough capital to make a meaningful change.
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Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world. Yet, we do not have competent people to apply all the technological wonders humanity created. Through capital allocation people and governments (which are composed by people) "enforce" in a smaller or higher size their view of the world. The thing is we do not have enough wealthy people with courage and kindness. Many people go on the defensive side when they become rich enough and stop innovating. I'm not saying that is not alright, but there is a lack of people with a good, healthy vision of the world that also possess enough capital to make a meaningful change.


Unfortunately, you can only find few people sharing their wealth to the public. Most of them wanted to accumulate more and more for them. If these wealthy people will only help these poor people, we won't see them suffering from poverty. But I guess, that's how humanity is. It is designed to have rich and poor people in it. And it is how you change your own fate for the better and not relying from others to carve your own future. Sad reality but I don't think the mentality of people will change.
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...Economically speaking I believe we now do possess the technology necessary to create enough abundance for all the people in this world...
...But I guess, that's how humanity is. It is designed to have rich and poor people in it. And it is how you change your own fate for the better and not relying from others to carve your own future. Sad reality but I don't think the mentality of people will change...
It is completely useless to expect universal consciousness from rich citizens, and such changes in society will have to be made by the forces of the state mechanism. In the coming decades, we will face amazing and turbulent times, while humanity, through trial and error, finds the mechanisms for the distribution of social and economic wealth without slipping into dictatorship or anarchy. Technology already allows it, but the economic and state structure does not yet allow it.
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March 05, 2021, 02:38:16 AM
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
I think it's the equillibrium for the society and industry that there's still be rich, middle class, and poor people. Laziness is one of the factors that affects our daily lives to be unfunctional and losing our compassion to do what's the best for us to gain more. In the other hand, rich people still doing what's best for them to maintain their wealth and fortune.
For some poor people, they intend to break their unfortunate life by taking risks and opportunity just like how other people did before they become rich.
For me, it's inevitable that this certain factors will be changed for the near future since we can't handle other people from their decisions and their lifestyle.
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March 05, 2021, 03:22:17 AM
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IMO, religion is the most important factor that contributes to the growing poverty levels. Most of those who attend religious congregations are extremely poor, and they need to provide 10% or 20% of their net income to the religious body on a regular basis. On top of this, there are certain taboos and restrictions associated with the religions, which further reduces the income received by these people. And most importantly, religious bodies are against family planning. In my country, it is not rare for the ultra-religious to have 10-12 children each, which adds to the poverty issues.

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I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

It's not possible, we can never eradicate poor people and poor living, but there is a place where everybody is poor and only a few are rich and that is North Korea, we can never be equal to each other, some countries try to implement equality and they failed miserably because we are never created equally, so can never have equally, we are human and we see the weakness and strength of others, and wants to be powerful and have more than the others. 
   

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The world can  only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.

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The world can  only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.
That could work but we have to fight the ingrained mentality that we need more than others that has been rooted on many countries for millennia. And it will be a difficult thing especially now that we are living in a quasi-dystopian society that is bombarded by ads about owning this and that and those thing will only perpetuate the idea that you need to own more than your neighbors. If we could destroy that mentality then maybe we can see a future where poverty is not a thing.

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A world where there is no poverty is a world where people could get what they want out of thin air, even if there's universal basic income there'll be some people who always gonna spend all their money for the most useless things.
Poverty is not only state of financial condition but also state of mentality, in short it's quite impossible. Not to mention there always some people who want to fulfil their greedines through any shady means and could create poverty again.

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