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March 23, 2021, 05:51:27 AM
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There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

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March 23, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
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Poverty cannot be erased from the world at least not this one. There will always be rich and poor people like prey and predator relationship. It gives balance to the ecosystem. If you try to upset this system by pumping in money to the "poor people", a high percentage would still come back to square one.

Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.



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March 23, 2021, 11:25:34 AM
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Poverty cannot be erased from the world at least not this one. There will always be rich and poor people like prey and predator relationship. It gives balance to the ecosystem. If you try to upset this system by pumping in money to the "poor people", a high percentage would still come back to square one.

Very well said. Poverty cannot be eradicated by any country even if they wealthy enough. With the increasing amount of population, the number of people who became unemployed increasing as well thus will result in poverty. There's nothing we can do about poverty even if the government do all support they could there be still some individual fall behind. It can be reduced but will not fully eradicate, yes several countries are capable of doing this but the majority of the countries are not capable. Besides, I think you have a point regards on prey and predator relationship, that is one of the reasons why there will be poor people.


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March 24, 2021, 09:59:59 AM
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Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.
China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.

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March 24, 2021, 10:12:07 AM
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There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.

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Poverty may exist. But it is possible to eradicate extreme poverty. China has done that. They have managed to completely eliminate extreme poverty. There are still poor people in China, but these people can afford good food and basic amenities. But that is not the case in most of the third world nations. Take India for example. Extreme poverty has actually increased there, as a result of the COVID 19 pandemic. The same can be said about most of the Sub-Saharan nations.
China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.
Nevertheless, in India there is a rather large contrast, compared to China, and if in China, figuratively speaking, there is black, gray and white at the same time, then in India there is practically only black and white. And this says that poverty is on a large scale. It should be borne in mind that India is a very rich country, but the population does not feel it.

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March 24, 2021, 04:32:41 PM
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There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.
If the country is developed and rich it's about technology adoption and not climate conditions, at least nowadays. Climate conditions can't be an excuse for poverty and precariousness. Look Israel for example: their spot isn't a very good one from natural conditions perspective, still they are a rich country which export technology to other countries.
All countries have conditions to develop or adopt technology in order to help their citizens leave poverty, the point is that not all governments have this as main goal.


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March 24, 2021, 04:41:46 PM
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There always be povery in countries with low development. And thats their own problem if they do not want to fix anything

I don't think it is only the fault of the country if they are low devleoped and in a poor condition. There are a lot of external factors which can make a country and their people wealthy or poor. For example, does the country have a lot of natural resources that could be exported and sold? Or how is the average climate in that country? If half of the land in the country is desert or frozen than it will be very hard for the people to make a decent profit. Some of us unfortunate people live in very harsh conditions.


It's also possible that there are people who consider themselves poor because they compare themselves with others.
In typical rural areas, there are lots of "poor" people who are well fed, have real properties etc but once they are exposed to modern riches they feel poor and want to become like the modern people. They sell their lands, goats, cows to rent properties in cities or travel abroad.




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March 24, 2021, 06:05:01 PM
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China reduced their population growth and increased productivity. They focused on manufacturing and production industries. This help them boost their economy but they are still poor people in China living below standard. India on the other hand have increased their population over the years and the stats show that more people living below the poverty line than middle class people in India. I disagree that the poverty level in India is as a result of the pandemic.

Obviously a nation would remain as poor if the population doubles every two decades. Also we need to remember that India is one of the most densely populated nations in the planet with a population of 1.4 billion (which is increasing at a rate of 2% per year). China did the right thing by limiting the population, and it had a real impact on improving the living condition of its citizens. India is where China was in the 1980s.

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March 24, 2021, 06:14:35 PM
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Poverty cannot be eradicated by any country even if they wealthy enough. With the increasing amount of population, the number of people who became unemployed increasing as well thus will result in poverty. There's nothing we can do about poverty even if the government do all support they could there be still some individual fall behind. It can be reduced but will not fully eradicate, yes several countries are capable of doing this but the majority of the countries are not capable. Besides, I think you have a point regards on prey and predator relationship, that is one of the reasons why there will be poor people.
You do not have to print money to give to poor people, there is a method that could cycle the money issue and would help everyone as well. Think about it this way, if the wealthy people paid a lot of money, and I do not even mean people with few million dollars, I mean people with 100+ million dollars networth, if those people were taxed very high, and that money is spent on people who get paid less than 50k that would allow those people to constantly have money thanks to the taxes.

It would also allow those people to spend that money and become poor again but since taxes are paid by the wealthy those people would get back on their feet again, eventually allowing next generation to be smarter about it and learn the value of money. Now you are increasing the poor count, nothing else, the current system is not working, you may disagree on my idea, but at least it wasn't tested, not like I told you, but the current one is tested and it is horrible.

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March 25, 2021, 07:48:12 AM
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Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.
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In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance. Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
There is always two sides to every thing and that is the normal way there will always be the rich and the poor on the other side to balance out the natural cause of live. For now, there is no way or nothing can be done to eradicate that aspect of life and I get what you are asking as highlighted, whether people can just be able to afford stuffs even without not necessary being a millionaire that too, is not possible there will always be some people some where not having a way to make daily ends meet.   

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Poverty is basically the condition of not having enough to satisfy our basic needs such as food, clothing and shelter.It's reduced by taking economic and humanitarian measures specially designed to lower the rate of poverty.A world without poverty will be challenging but can be achievable at some point.

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No, we cannot make social status balance where there is no one poor. You are correct sometimes it is not the lack of opportunity or knowledge that is the reason behind poverty, it is people being lazy and dependent on whatever they can get for free. Just imagine if everyone is rich and financially capable, no one will be working, there will be jo manpower, no one needs a job. I guess that is how the economy works. Even developed countries cannot solve poverty.
Machines will keep working. Poverty can be finished with technology. As technology is developed we need less and less human effort in order to acquire goods and services we need daily. Instead of human labor, machines replace it with efficiency. Furthermore, life becomes cheaper as we advance towards the future and I can mention alternative sources of energy as an example. They are freely generated!
Of course lazy and pessimistic people will still face issues in life and there will be much richer people above them, but anyway the life quality of the poorest ones will be much better than now. History repeat itself: Look how was the life of the poorest ones centuries ago and how it is now. There is a significant improvement in life standards.
Yes, despite what we may see on the news our improvements when it comes to technology have caused the number of people living in poverty to go down and this is important, assuming we can keep in this direction we may have a minimum standard of living even for the less fortunate ones that could be decent, however in that world poverty will still exist as there will be people with a lot and people with less, but I do not have a problem with that, people forget that even a middle class person of today lives in many ways with greater luxury than the kings of just one century ago, as we have access to way better medical care, exotic food on demand and all kinds of entertainment at the tip of our fingers.



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March 26, 2021, 03:33:26 AM
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Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.


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March 26, 2021, 03:51:38 AM
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Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
I doubt that there is a country who do not experiencing any kind of poverty. What you just said is wrong because in those countries that you mentioned are also experiencing poverty. The balance of the world will fall if all of the persons are in the state of being rich. Poverty will be forever in this world. Many people doesn't aware that poverty is inherited. Which means it can be passed down from generations to generations. The truth is we cannot wipe out the poverty because there are some people who doesn't have enough characteristics to become middle class or rich but we can lessen the poverty rate by becoming financially literate.
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March 26, 2021, 05:05:54 PM
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Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?
Yes, people can live without any one  be poor in a country, if the government can do those three things to their citizens:
• Education: If the government can make it possible for the citizens to experience free education in the country can eliminate poverty from the life of the citizens in the country.
• Employment: If the government can create free employment to all graduates and undergraduate in the country can stop people be poor in a country.
• economy : If the government can make it possible 247 economy pumping in the country can eliminate poverty in the country.

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March 26, 2021, 09:40:25 PM
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There's nothing outlandish legitimate arranging and endeavors can make it possible,and profoundly the world can be adjusted and there's no way the world will be without destitution since the sluggishness, destitute considering, conviction, insensible and need of shrewdness of a few individuals are the reason why they are destitute but the's plausibility of the world having moo rates of extraordinary destitution which can do by the government and add up to destitution can as it were be killed by each person.
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March 27, 2021, 04:18:10 AM
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Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
I doubt that there is a country who do not experiencing any kind of poverty. What you just said is wrong because in those countries that you mentioned are also experiencing poverty. The balance of the world will fall if all of the persons are in the state of being rich. Poverty will be forever in this world. Many people doesn't aware that poverty is inherited. Which means it can be passed down from generations to generations. The truth is we cannot wipe out the poverty because there are some people who doesn't have enough characteristics to become middle class or rich but we can lessen the poverty rate by becoming financially literate.

Poverty is being used in a relative sense. Those people who are considered as poor in Switzerland or Japan will be considered as "super-rich" if they settle down in countries such as Mali or Niger. On the other hand, many of those who are considered as upper middle class in countries such as India and Nepal would be downgraded to "poor" if they settle down in Singapore or Hong Kong. Therefore I have a feeling that rather than measuring poverty among the individuals, it will be better to talk about poverty at a country level, after studying the net wealth and average salary of the citizens.


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March 27, 2021, 06:31:14 AM
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Impossible. If this is the case, then the world will become unremarkable and new, and the world will not progress. A world must have a good side and a bad side to balance it. This is a natural law and cannot be changed. ! Competition can improve people's self-motivated and can improve themselves in constant competition.

Theoretically it is not impossible. In most of the countries, we have three classes of people - rich, middle class and poor. But there are some countries where the poor doesn't exist. I am talking about countries such as Switzerland, Monaco and Singapore. These countries have smaller population, and as a result the governments are able to provide the basic necessities to the population. The same can't be said about overpopulated countries such as Bangladesh or Nigeria.
You just said that there are three classes of people in terms of Richness classification and you went ahead to list some countries where you think this three classes of people do not really exist? Do you really think the whole of the population of this countries because they are small compared to other countries have the same level of richness? They might not be poor based on the level or stranded when compared to other countries as some have already pointed out, but to me even in their country as long as we are going to classify bass on their own stranded then they will all fall into their different categories which could still be seen as the High, middle and lower where the lower level will be seen as poor in that country even though they might have access to basic amenities.  

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