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August 16, 2021, 07:06:10 PM
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There is a proposal!

Suppose that in a certain country, they decided to make everyone rich. Let's say that 1% was super-rich, we don't touch them, we throw them out of the scheme. But everyone else, the state, begins to pay the same amount of income every month, regardless of whether a person is working, unemployed, middle class or hereditary poor.
Now let's simulate such a society in our heads! And how will it behave? What will happen in the future? What will happen to the economy? Will a sustainable and high-quality result be achieved?

The answer will explain why the world will always be divided into richer and less richer Smiley

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August 16, 2021, 10:35:44 PM
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  Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.
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August 16, 2021, 11:36:26 PM
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  Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.

It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.

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August 16, 2021, 11:50:36 PM
Last edit: August 17, 2021, 12:16:50 AM by AndySt
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 Poverty is one of the most problem in the society or in the country. Having a poverty is difficult because of the high population people suffered the lack of supply an shelter they can not provide their own needs cause some of them are young and child who got entered a relationship .More teenager now got affair and stand for their new family so this time the poverty involve on this.
It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.
Yes, a world without poverty is impossible in the modern world, because poverty, like wealth, is a relative concept and if there are rich people, there will definitely be poor people. Therefore, the task of any government is not to eradicate poverty, because this will not lead to anything good, and such attempts can simply lead to the fact that everyone will simply be poor. Therefore, the task of the Government is to prevent poverty from taking horrific forms that offend human dignity and to take measures to raise the incomes of the poorest strata. It is also necessary to intelligently organize the activities of the so-called social elevators, so that there is a constant movement between the social strata of society.
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August 18, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
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It is true that poverty is the biggest problem in every country, even in developed countries there is still poverty. Therefore, care is needed from
the government to overcome this, although to reduce the number of poverty is not an easy job. The support of big companies is also needed to
help the government reduce poverty, especially with the pandemic situation that is not over yet, increasingly difficult to overcome the problem of
poverty. So the conclusion is a world without poverty is very difficult to realize, but at least the number of poor people should be reduced every year,
if the government can implement the right steps.
Yes, a world without poverty is impossible in the modern world, because poverty, like wealth, is a relative concept and if there are rich people, there will definitely be poor people. Therefore, the task of any government is not to eradicate poverty, because this will not lead to anything good, and such attempts can simply lead to the fact that everyone will simply be poor. Therefore, the task of the Government is to prevent poverty from taking horrific forms that offend human dignity and to take measures to raise the incomes of the poorest strata. It is also necessary to intelligently organize the activities of the so-called social elevators, so that there is a constant movement between the social strata of society.

Because poverty will always exist, but that does not mean the government allows poverty to continue to increase. Although poverty cannot
be eliminated, its number can be reduced. So human life will be happier and more prosperous, if the number of poverty decreases. Actually,
there have been many government programs in various countries of the world to be able to reduce the number of poverty. If we feel that
we are poor, we must actively participate in the program that has been established by the government. Likewise, if we are rich people,
we must do something to support government programs. This means that overcoming poverty cannot expect what the government does,
but it requires the cooperation of all parties.

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August 18, 2021, 03:28:02 PM
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The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.

That hasn't worked so far. Those governments which focus on improving education, infrastructure and medical care are increasingly being voted out of power, in favor of populist governments which distribute freebies. The latter is not a sustainable option. Freebies can't last for lifetime, while education is permanent. And the problem with freebies is that it results in indirect slavery. The poor are forced to vote for the political party, so that they could continue to receive the handouts. And on the other hand, it means that the politicians also have a reason to keep the lower class in the same financial state.
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August 18, 2021, 04:21:16 PM
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The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.

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August 18, 2021, 05:29:29 PM
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The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.

Reducing the level of poverty in the country is indeed the government's task, but the government's task so far is only in the form of dropping out of work because overcoming poverty, the government's version so far is to provide subsidies, even though with the existence of subsidies, poverty is maintained because it will not provide mental education for the poor to try to get out of the poverty line.  The role of the government is not enough without the will of the individual.
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August 18, 2021, 10:42:52 PM
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The role of the state is needed to overcome poverty, the state must provide the best education and health facilities so as to make the people able to improve their standard of living, in my country poverty is a political object because it is always an issue when there is a general election.
I agree, the state has the urge to initiate reduction in poverty rate. But for individuals, if they understand their situation, they don't have to wait for the government's help.
Although the state really has an important role to improve the quality of life through those that you've mentioned. They also have to look at the business sector and as well as employment.

Reducing the level of poverty in the country is indeed the government's task, but the government's task so far is only in the form of dropping out of work because overcoming poverty, the government's version so far is to provide subsidies, even though with the existence of subsidies, poverty is maintained because it will not provide mental education for the poor to try to get out of the poverty line.  The role of the government is not enough without the will of the individual.
Yeah, there should be some help from individuals, helping themselves to look for better opportunities that the government can't provide. And as well as those wealthy people and businessmen although they really don't have an obligation to do that.
If they will come along with it and wanting to have a good economy, they'll for sure give an impact to their economy as well as people living in the poverty line to have that self reliance.

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August 19, 2021, 06:42:13 AM
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One of the best ways to reduce poverty is to reduce inequality. A lot of ultra rich people do give money away voluntarily, and try to solve some of the world's problems, the Gates Foundation being an example. But it shouldn't really be voluntary, if taxation worked properly. Jeff Bezos for example has around £200 billion. It's very difficult for us to visualise what that means, as the number is so far beyond what our human brains deal with in everyday life.






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August 20, 2021, 04:10:35 AM
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One of the best ways to reduce poverty is to reduce inequality. A lot of ultra rich people do give money away voluntarily, and try to solve some of the world's problems, the Gates Foundation being an example. But it shouldn't really be voluntary, if taxation worked properly. Jeff Bezos for example has around £200 billion. It's very difficult for us to visualise what that means, as the number is so far beyond what our human brains deal with in everyday life.

Bill Gates is like the worst possible example. Do you know that he caused a $20 billion loss to the United States treasury by moving his shares to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation? Since these shares have been moved to a charity organization, they will never be taxed. Also, Bill Gates divorced his wife, just because they wanted to decrease the tax bill further. I am not saying that he hasn't contributed to charity. But refusing to pay $20 billion in taxes, and then using a fraction of that amount to charity is not very ethical IMO.

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August 20, 2021, 08:42:28 AM
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If that really happened then we will not need currency to trade it with the material and stuff. Neither we will need it to pay for the services, May be for food etc. Think about the ancient world when there was no monetary system. What they did was miracle, they lived altogether they did not considered humans as different caste, or level of living standard. Everyone was the same, they used to live together so that they can survive from the wilderness of nature, animals and what not.

The good thing was they never separated on the basis of who got what in their wallets. Because there was no such thing.

Sadly, over the time things got complicated. Dominance got created so that someone can live the lavish life and rule the others for their benefits. Today, world lives by differentiation of castes, literacy, developments and many more things to count on.

To make everyone rich or discard the poverty everyone will need to live together with one pager understanding which seems impossible at this point.

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August 20, 2021, 09:05:14 AM
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Riches comes through determination, dedication, self discipline and hard work, even those that inherited wealth know that someone pay the price for that generational riches. Poverty will still exist because some are not ready to do those things that will make them rich. Even though you distribute one million U.S dollar to everyone in the world some will still become poor in few weeks.

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August 20, 2021, 09:44:03 AM
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Riches comes through determination, dedication, self discipline and hard work, even those that inherited wealth know that someone pay the price for that generational riches. Poverty will still exist because some are not ready to do those things that will make them rich. Even though you distribute one million U.S dollar to everyone in the world some will still become poor in few weeks.


Poverty will always exist, this is a natural law that cannot be eliminated, many things are done by poor people so that between rich and poor there are mutual benefits, if there are no poor people then no one becomes a farmer, laborer, fisherman, construction worker and so on.


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August 20, 2021, 09:48:53 AM
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There will be no poverty in the world as long as fiat is not printed and increases inflation and corruption.  We see that fiat is a unit to measure people's life and economy.  If each country's government can protect, achieve high efficiency in the fight against unemployment, fight poverty, health care and education…etc, this is the dream of the whole world but wish  which is increasingly being destroyed by covid19.

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