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March 05, 2021, 05:46:26 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

It's very sad that this forum allows ads from coin mixers. People representing them in their signatures are also supporting criminals.

This coin mixers are used to hide transactions made from deals like drugs and child pornography or any other crimes. And nothing else.

All the instructions which can be found online are literally telling you how to avoid being trace and hide your money. 

All those coin mixers are illegal only alone by the fact that they are not even a company or anything. There's no single legal address. They have no financial license. And even all the scam brokers have one.

And don't come with things like "Its also a use case for some poor guy in Iran who has to hide". That's bullshit. And you know its a lie.

Everyone knows it but many don't want to accept it. They are accepting coin mixers because they think there now some rebellious guy.

When you accept them and support them your making the world more worse.

You should not give them a chance and support someone else. Support good things.

Everyone who tries to find an contra argument will be sad because their aren't any Wink
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March 05, 2021, 05:54:55 PM
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I've never used a Bitcoin mixer because while I support privacy, I'm okay with my transactions being visible on Blockchain and I don't feel threatened by it. It would be very interested to see anonymous research on users of Bitcoin mixers to see who are the people who mainly use them. It might be criminals, like you say, but it might also be people who're worried about being traceable even though they don't do anything illegal (they just don't want corporations to track their actions, push products to them and stuff like that). Do you have any research showing that it's actually only used for serious crimes?

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March 05, 2021, 06:09:30 PM
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Bitcoin designed a "Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System", but peoples using it to scam others. Is that fault goes to the Bitcoin or Bitcoin creator? The mixer has designed to cut the links and receive clean coins, it's mostly using by those who care about privacy. If scammers or hackers using it then really can we blame the mixers? I don't think so. Also, fiat money using for fraud attempts, but we can't blame fiat. Mixers just break the links between transactions. It would be used by criminals or by legit Bitcoin users.

The forum doesn't moderate scams, if scammers using bitcoin to scam people then should the forum stop spread the words about Bitcoin. Same about mixers, if it's using by criminals, doesn't necessary to stop advertising here.

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March 05, 2021, 06:10:28 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.


I think most criminals will prefer privacy coins like XMR rather than going in the hassle of bitcoin mixing service. But again the service of bitcoin mixer is not made to use it negatively. Its just that most people use it for illegal purpose and not for the good cause.
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March 05, 2021, 06:13:05 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.
The argument actually goes the other way round:
mixing in general is mainly a necessity because e.g. exchanges are complicit in the criminal act of "chainalysis" which is pretty obviously contrary to the privacy rights of e.g. European citizens.

Everyone who tries to find an contra argument will be sad because their aren't any
Sorry, I've proven you wrong.

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March 05, 2021, 06:18:38 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.
...
Everyone who tries to find an contra argument will be sad because their aren't any Wink

Privacy is not criminal, anyone who argues otherwise is probably an authoritarian fascist who wants to control everyone else.  Personally, I've never used a mixer, but anyone who wants extra privacy should do so.  Everyone does not have a right to know everything about everyone else.  Privacy is a human right.  Anyone who argues otherwise is anti human rights.

Counterarguments are many, just because you didn't come up with them, doesn't mean your final statement is accurate.  It just means you didn't think it through.

If you really don't consider privacy a human right, please post your real name, address, phone number, install a camera in each room in your house and open up your firewall, and post every financial transaction, from pay to buying a meal, online, whether you've used fiat, a credit card, a check or whatever.
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March 05, 2021, 06:26:53 PM
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Bitcoin designed a "Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System", but peoples using it to scam others. Is that fault goes to the Bitcoin or Bitcoin creator? The mixer has designed to cut the links and receive clean coins, it's mostly using by those who care about privacy. If scammers or hackers using it then really can we blame the mixers? I don't think so. Also, fiat money using for fraud attempts, but we can't blame fiat. Mixers just break the links between transactions. It would be used by criminals or by legit Bitcoin users.

The forum doesn't moderate scams, if scammers using bitcoin to scam people then should the forum stop spread the words about Bitcoin. Same about mixers, if it's using by criminals, doesn't necessary to stop advertising here.

Sorry but that are all very blank statements. First of all Bitcoin is a digital currency and not a product designed for criminals. Besides that it is very dumb for criminals to use bitcoins but that's an huge other topic. I only say that over 400 darknet markets went down due to bitcoin and a cyber criminal got arrested for ordering pizza with his bitcoin wallet. Doing crime on bitcoins is a big advantage for law enforcement. You can do more way way crimes on fiat (digital).

And we can blame the mixers. Its only used by and only designed for criminals. That's their whole business module. People running mixers got all arrested in the past, now sentencing over 10 years in federal prison.

I cant say: "Im running an marketplace called DRUGMARKET but police and nobody can't blame me for people selling illicit goods" or "Does to fault of child porn sites really goes to the creator?"

Operating a bitcoin mixer is running an criminal enterprise. Like a drug ring or something else.

Judges also not blaming the axe manufacture in a court case when a murder with an axe happened. They charge the murderer.
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.
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Everyone who tries to find an contra argument will be sad because their aren't any Wink

Privacy is not criminal, anyone who argues otherwise is probably an authoritarian fascist who wants to control everyone else.  Personally, I've never used a mixer, but anyone who wants extra privacy should do so.  Everyone does not have a right to know everything about everyone else.  Privacy is a human right.  Anyone who argues otherwise is anti human rights.

Counterarguments are many, just because you didn't come up with them, doesn't mean your final statement is accurate.  It just means you didn't think it through.

If you really don't consider privacy a human right, please post your real name, address, phone number, install a camera in each room in your house and open up your firewall, and post every financial transaction, from pay to buying a meal, online, whether you've used fiat, a credit card, a check or whatever.

Sorry you are so right.....

We should support child porn. Sexual freedom! Everyone else is a anti-sexual-fredoom-for-everyone-including-pedos-blablabla

We should support drug traffickers like MS13 who kill over 50k people a year. Everyone else is RACIST, ANTI-HUMAN-BECAUSE-EVERYONE-IS-THE-SAME-LETSGO-DIRTY-HEROIN-DESTROYS-LIFE. Because people also order MS13 to cut their weed in the garden!!

We also should support darknet market were identity theft and other crimes happens. BECAUSE THERE ALSO PEOPLE BUYING THEIR GROCERIES THERE!! Everyone else is ANTI-I-BUY-DRUGS-ON-THE-DARKNET
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March 05, 2021, 06:36:25 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.


I think most criminals will prefer privacy coins like XMR rather than going in the hassle of bitcoin mixing service. But again the service of bitcoin mixer is not made to use it negatively. Its just that most people use it for illegal purpose and not for the good cause.

Cyber criminals still use bitcoin, because its still the most used currency in the darknet (for whatever reason) and the most easy to use coin for ransomware (most known and easiest to get for ransomware victims). New ones started using XMR and its getting started more popular in the underworld. XMR would be worth an additional post Wink  Again something almost only used by criminals (99%).
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March 05, 2021, 06:42:25 PM
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This discussion already happened 100's of times. Do people have to debunk this again?

Oh well I'll just do that myself and save everyone the trouble.

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

Wrong.

Have you ever thought that they can be used to hide money from criminals? If you win a large amount of BTC and want to move it somewhere where people won't harass and extort you for it then you'd use a mixer.

It's very sad that this forum allows ads from coin mixers. People representing them in their signatures are also supporting criminals.

No, they are supporting the groups they want to support and they each have their reasons for them.

Each person will give you a different answer to this question and it's wrong to generalize that everyone using or advertising a mixer somehow whether through a site, ad or just an informal vouch is supporting criminals because if you take the time to ask each of them one by one you will eventually find out that people don't actually support criminals at all. If you ask me for example it's because I support people's right to hide their own money - which others don't have the right to see in the first place.
 

This coin mixers are used to hide transactions made from deals like drugs and child pornography or any other crimes. And nothing else.

You definitely know the underlined part is false but maybe you won't admit it?  Huh

All the instructions which can be found online are literally telling you how to avoid being trace and hide your money.  

This is basically saying that everybody is entitled to see where everybody else's money is and where they send it too. By contrast I don't think you would agree to let random people know where or what you spend your cash on, after all it's none of their business  Wink

All those coin mixers are illegal only alone by the fact that they are not even a company or anything. There's no single legal address. They have no financial license. And even all the scam brokers have one.

Sorry but "legal" is a subjective word that means different things to people/countries/entities. What is legal in one country may not be legal in another and also may not feel legal to you either. But each has their own definition of what is legal and you can't change that.

"...are illegal only alone by the fact that they are not even a company or anything" is utter bollocks because you don't have to have a legal document and registered company to offer services in bitcoin or even cash.

By the way, you may want to retract that underlined part because the scam brokers use fake "The Company's House" addresses in the UK, it takes like 5 minutes to cross check and verify that they don't actually exist.

And don't come with things like "Its also a use case for some poor guy in Iran who has to hide". That's bullshit. And you know its a lie.

I'm glad you know that too because literally no one in Iran who earns bitcoin honestly has to mix it to hide it from governments, the very fact it's in a bitcoin address provides enough obfuscation  Wink

Sorry but that are all very blank statements. First of all Bitcoin is a digital currency and not a product designed for criminals. Besides that it is very dumb for criminals to use bitcoins but that's an huge other topic. I only say that over 400 darknet markets went down due to bitcoin and a cyber criminal got arrested for ordering pizza with his bitcoin wallet. Doing crime on bitcoins is a big advantage for law enforcement. You can do more way way crimes on fiat (digital).

And we can blame the mixers. Its only used by and only designed for criminals. That's their whole business module. People running mixers got all arrested in the past, now sentencing over 10 years in federal prison.

I cant say: "Im running an marketplace called DRUGMARKET but police and nobody can't blame me for people selling illicit goods" or "Does to fault of child porn sites really goes to the creator?"

Dude, are you aware that most of darknet markets use only Monero?

Why not fume about that instead?

Operating a bitcoin mixer is running an criminal enterprise. Like a drug ring or something else.

Judges also not blaming the axe manufacture in a court case when a murder with an axe happened. They charge the murderer.

Your second sentence completely contradicts the first, by this logic a judge will charge the criminal who used the mixer not the mixer operators.

Sorry you are so right.....

We should support child porn. Sexual freedom! Everyone else is a anti-sexual-fredoom-for-everyone-including-pedos-blablabla

We should support drug traffickers like MS13 who kill over 50k people a year. Everyone else is RACIST, ANTI-HUMAN-BECAUSE-EVERYONE-IS-THE-SAME-LETSGO-DIRTY-HEROIN-DESTROYS-LIFE. Because people also order MS13 to cut their weed!!

We also should support darknet market were identity theft and other crimes happens. BECAUSE THERE ALSO PEOPLE BUYING THEIR GROCERIES THERE!! Everyone else is ANTI-I-BUY-DRUGS-ON-THE-DARKNET

I think you are the only person in this entire thread who thinks that  Roll Eyes

Cyber criminals still use bitcoin, because its still the most used currency in the darknet (for whatever reason) and the most easy to use coin for ransomware (most known and easiest to get for ransomware victims). New ones started using XMR and its getting started more popular in the underworld. XMR would be worth an additional post Wink

Yeah, only thiefs whose intention is to steal bitcoin will use bitcoin, have you ever thought of that and how it's completely misaligned with your criticism of mixers? One would think you'd be criticizing the thieves, gangsters, rapists who use bitcoin but instead of challenging the enabler, you've succumbed to... attacking a defenseless industry?



~potty rant about "supporting"

I want to feel bad for people crusading against bitcoin mixers because even if they all disappear their effort is wasted; most of the entire darknet has moved to XMR, but I don't. Maybe it's because I just don't care about them anymore. But one thing's for sure I was definitely not paid to debunk this.

You're welcome.  Cool

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March 05, 2021, 07:07:41 PM
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This discussion already happened 100's of times. Do people have to debunk this again?

Oh well I'll just do that myself and save everyone the trouble.


Unnecessary beginning.

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

Wrong.

Have you ever thought that they can be used to hide money from criminals? If you win a large amount of BTC and want to move it somewhere where people won't harass and extort you for it then you'd use a mixer.

How do you want to know if I won a large sum of bitcoin? Some kind of magic guy?

It's very sad that this forum allows ads from coin mixers. People representing them in their signatures are also supporting criminals.

No, they are supporting the groups they want to support and they each have their reasons for them.

Each person will give you a different answer to this question and it's wrong to generalize that everyone using or advertising a mixer somehow whether through a site, ad or just an informal vouch is supporting criminals because if you take the time to ask each of them one by one you will eventually find out that people don't actually support criminals at all. If you ask me for example it's because I support people's right to hide their own money - which others don't have the right to see in the first place.

These ads are run for profit. Otherwise this forum is so poor that it has to accept money from criminals.

This coin mixers are used to hide transactions made from deals like drugs and child pornography or any other crimes. And nothing else.

You definitely know the underlined part is false but maybe you won't admit it?  Huh

Its not false. Otherwise I would say something else. Reading is hard.... Wink

All the instructions which can be found online are literally telling you how to avoid being trace and hide your money.  

This is basically saying that everybody is entitled to see where everybody else's money is and where they send it too. By contrast I don't think you would agree to let random people know where or what you spend your cash on, after all it's none of their business  Wink

Very bad and blank statement. Why should people care about my transactions. If your parents are hiring chain analysis then I'm sorry for your childhood. And bitcoin is designed to be transparent, read the goddamn whitepaper.

All those coin mixers are illegal only alone by the fact that they are not even a company or anything. There's no single legal address. They have no financial license. And even all the scam brokers have one.

Sorry but "legal" is a subjective word that means different things to people/countries/entities. What is legal in one country may not be legal in another and also may not feel legal to you either. But each has their own definition of what is legal and you can't change that.

"...are illegal only alone by the fact that they are not even a company or anything" is utter bollocks because you don't have to have a legal document and registered company to offer services in bitcoin or even cash.

By the way, you may want to retract that underlined part because the scam brokers use fake "The Company's House" addresses in the UK, it takes like 5 minutes to cross check and verify that they don't actually exist.

Every country in this world requires legal specification on a website. Except private forums etc. But business related its required.

And you need legal documents to run financial institution. I don't want to know where your from...

And don't come with things like "Its also a use case for some poor guy in Iran who has to hide". That's bullshit. And you know its a lie.

I'm glad you know that too because literally no one in Iran who earns bitcoin honestly has to mix it to hide it from governments, the very fact it's in a bitcoin address provides enough obfuscation  Wink


So you just lie to your own arguments. Your saying people want to hide it because they don't want to know everyone that they own that much etc. But at the same time your saying bitcoin address is enough obfuscation. So for other people its not but for iranian it is?
Looks like you never learned or saw how to argument.

Sorry but that are all very blank statements. First of all Bitcoin is a digital currency and not a product designed for criminals. Besides that it is very dumb for criminals to use bitcoins but that's an huge other topic. I only say that over 400 darknet markets went down due to bitcoin and a cyber criminal got arrested for ordering pizza with his bitcoin wallet. Doing crime on bitcoins is a big advantage for law enforcement. You can do more way way crimes on fiat (digital).

And we can blame the mixers. Its only used by and only designed for criminals. That's their whole business module. People running mixers got all arrested in the past, now sentencing over 10 years in federal prison.

I cant say: "Im running an marketplace called DRUGMARKET but police and nobody can't blame me for people selling illicit goods" or "Does to fault of child porn sites really goes to the creator?"

Dude, are you aware that most of darknet markets use only Monero?

Why not fume about that instead?


I just quoted in a post that I make an additional post about XMR. Already nervos Wink Besides that the post is about mixers. And not about xmr, the church or war.

Operating a bitcoin mixer is running an criminal enterprise. Like a drug ring or something else.

Judges also not blaming the axe manufacture in a court case when a murder with an axe happened. They charge the murderer.

Your second sentence completely contradicts the first, by this logic a judge will charge the criminal who used he mixer not the mixer operators.

Think again, then post. Dude....

Sorry you are so right.....

We should support child porn. Sexual freedom! Everyone else is a anti-sexual-fredoom-for-everyone-including-pedos-blablabla

We should support drug traffickers like MS13 who kill over 50k people a year. Everyone else is RACIST, ANTI-HUMAN-BECAUSE-EVERYONE-IS-THE-SAME-LETSGO-DIRTY-HEROIN-DESTROYS-LIFE. Because people also order MS13 to cut their weed!!

We also should support darknet market were identity theft and other crimes happens. BECAUSE THERE ALSO PEOPLE BUYING THEIR GROCERIES THERE!! Everyone else is ANTI-I-BUY-DRUGS-ON-THE-DARKNET
I think you are the only person in this entire thread who thinks that  Roll Eyes

In the style of your answer and posting, I'm assuming your maybe 15-16 years old. You made an very unfunny and dumb comment without going into my arguments with which I literally refute all the argument of this guy.

Cyber criminals still use bitcoin, because its still the most used currency in the darknet (for whatever reason) and the most easy to use coin for ransomware (most known and easiest to get for ransomware victims). New ones started using XMR and its getting started more popular in the underworld. XMR would be worth an additional post Wink

Yeah, only thiefs whose intention is to steal bitcoin will use bitcoin, have you ever thought of that and how it's completely misaligned with your criticism of mixers? One would think you'd be criticizing the thieves, gangsters, rapists who use bitcoin but instead of challenging the enabler, you've succumbed to attacking a defenseless industry?



I just said to the guy how to the current state of bitcoin related in the underground world is. I don't get your whole comment not at all. Learn thinking.

I want to feel bad for people crusading against bitcoin mixers because even if they all disappear their effort is wasted; most of the entire darknet has moved to XMR, but I don't. Maybe it's because I just don't care about them anymore. But one thing's for sure I was definitely not paid to debunk this.
You're welcome.  Cool

Thats like saying you should fight murders because they will exists always anyway. Baddest comment ever heard.

And its not smart to out yourself as an darknet criminal.

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March 05, 2021, 07:21:56 PM
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This coin mixers are used to hide transactions made from deals like drugs and child pornography or any other crimes. And nothing else.

Prove it. Prove that mixers are used only by criminals and nobody else benefits from them.
In the modern world it's you who has to prove that somebody is guilty, you know that, right?
And when you'll actually attempt to do that you'll understand how wrong you are and how pointless this (yet again) topic is.

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According to a Chainalysis report a tiny amount of around 1% of transactions can fall under criminal activity.
In 2019, illicit activity represented 2.1% of all cryptocurrency transaction volume or roughly $21.4 billion worth of transfers. In 2020, the illicit share of all cryptocurrency activity fell to just 0.34%, or $10.0 billion in transaction volume. One reason the percentage of illicit activity fell is because overall economic activity nearly tripled between 2019 and 2020. 
So a tiny minority uses cryptocurrency in an illicit way, while an outstanding majority play mostly by the rules.
What is the matter then?
https://go.chainalysis.com/2021-Crypto-Crime-Report.html
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Much has been said above.  I am adding this post to effectively "vote" in response.  I have been in BTC almost from the beginning.  I have never committed a crime where I could be arrested in my country so I am not hiding coins for that reason.  I simply demand anonymous/private coin storage for my BTC.  I don't want anyone to know I have coins or even know what they are.  With that in mind I can tell you honestly that I don't own any BTC that hasn't gone through multiple mixers - not one single SAT even.  I believe that BTC will be at least 100K by the end of 2021 (I know its my feeling) so the thought of someone, even simply my Gov't, being aware I have a stash of coins would frankly be DANGEROUS to my person.  For a criminal to approach a known BTC holder and say transfer coins to me or die - how easy would that be?  No thanks!

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Coin mixers being able to operate publicly is a sign that the Bitcoin economy has a way to go to see legitimacy. Of course coin mixers assist scammers as their purpose is literally to launder money. I’m sure at some point these operations will be shut down, have their funds confiscated, and likely their owners jailed. You would have to be borderline insane to try and operate one without being anonymous and even more insane to lend them BTC to try and earn a return.

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Simplest counterargument: by using fiat, you're supporting terrorism because terrorists are using it.

I've used mixers so that someone who's given me BTC loses its track. Imagine you've purchased $100 worth of BTC from a stranger and they suddenly start stalking you. They've got your entire immutable and undeniable history of all your txs since your purchase.

I've used mixers so that older addresses of mine don't get correlated with new ones. Who knows what kind of info those 2013 BTC accounts of mine held.

I just don't want my personal space invaded. Period. The fact that privacy is now considered to be a criminal's tool is sad.
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*Where do you get this data, whether it's accurate...
there may be a lot of criminals who use mixers to trick and make them anonymous, but there are also those who deliberately use mixers because they prioritize privacy. without accurate data, this just sounds like slander.

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OP is likely just jealous because most mixers don't bother supporting their worthless forkcoin.  You know, the one that likes to pretend it's compliant with regulatory bodies when it actually isn't.  

BTC is not bitcoin anymore, due to many reasons.
BTC is not Bitcoin.
BTC is not Bitcoin.
Satoshi Nakamoto is Dr. Craig Steven Wright.

Accept the truth. It will destroy your myths about bitcoin being useful for criminals and anarchists and being against governments and banks.

Satoshi is not some young cypher punk with a dark hoodie sweater like you all wishing and being lied to a long time.
Bitcoin is not censorship resistant and not secured by cryptography.

Nodes are miners and nothing else. Your small local home node is worthless.

The reason why almost everyone believes this, is because almost nobody understands bitcoin Wink

And and BTC is simply not Bitcoin anymore. Wake up.

For someone who vocally supports one of the shadiest criminals on the face of the planet, you're not really in a position to take the moral high-ground here.  


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I've never used a Bitcoin mixer because while I support privacy, I'm okay with my transactions being visible on Blockchain and I don't feel threatened by it. It would be very interested to see anonymous research on users of Bitcoin mixers to see who are the people who mainly use them. It might be criminals, like you say, but it might also be people who're worried about being traceable even though they don't do anything illegal (they just don't want corporations to track their actions, push products to them and stuff like that). Do you have any research showing that it's actually only used for serious crimes?

Simplest counterargument: by using fiat, you're supporting terrorism because terrorists are using it.

I've used mixers so that someone who's given me BTC loses its track. Imagine you've purchased $100 worth of BTC from a stranger and they suddenly start stalking you. They've got your entire immutable and undeniable history of all your txs since your purchase.

I've used mixers so that older addresses of mine don't get correlated with new ones. Who knows what kind of info those 2013 BTC accounts of mine held.

I just don't want my personal space invaded. Period. The fact that privacy is now considered to be a criminal's tool is sad.

I want to use a mixer in the near future for these reasons.

We know that Bitcoin transactions are not 100% anonymous, mixers add that
extra feature for legitimate reasons and benefits.

Criminals and scammers can use Bitcoin but we dont like the narrative of banning
the use of Bitcoin.


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Accept the truth. It will destroy your myths about bitcoin being useful for criminals and anarchists and being against governments and banks.

Satoshi is not some young cypher punk with a dark hoodie sweater like you all wishing and being lied to a long time.
Bitcoin is not censorship resistant and not secured by cryptography.

Nodes are miners and nothing else. Your small local home node is worthless.

The reason why almost everyone believes this, is because almost nobody understands bitcoin Wink

And and BTC is simply not Bitcoin anymore. Wake up.

For someone who vocally supports one of the shadiest criminals on the face of the planet, you're not really in a position to take the moral high-ground here.  



This is shocking, good sleuthing DooMAD

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March 05, 2021, 10:04:14 PM
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Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

Are these kind of topic is a never ending one? We cant really deny on what are the things would be covered on when using up mixers this is why this business does really have some
negative image by the government because of the essence on making those transactions even way more anonymous.

We cant deny that this could really be used on that way or for that purpose but we cant deny the fact that there are people whom do make use of this service to erase up their
tracks or having completely anonymous for their own personal reason.

It isnt really needed for you to be criminal or some sort for you to make use because minding your own privacy and anonymity will really
be having these considerations.

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