Why bitcoin mixers are only for criminals

[wxa7115]

Simplest counterargument: by using fiat, you're supporting terrorism because terrorists are using it.

I've used mixers so that someone who's given me BTC loses its track. Imagine you've purchased $100 worth of BTC from a stranger and they suddenly start stalking you. They've got your entire immutable and undeniable history of all your txs since your purchase.

I've used mixers so that older addresses of mine don't get correlated with new ones. Who knows what kind of info those 2013 BTC accounts of mine held.

I just don't want my personal space invaded. Period. The fact that privacy is now considered to be a criminal's tool is sad.

This is probably the biggest fallacy of this age, if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear they say, and as such you need to reveal everything about yourself to everyone all the time, it is a ridiculous notion but thanks to social media that is the current paradigm in which we are.

We can use clothes as an example, clothes are not only a way to protect ourselves from the elements or a fashion statement, clothes are also a form of privacy, people decide with their clothing how much of their body they want to show and whether this is a lot or a little it is up to them to decide what level of privacy they wan to use, mixers are the same, there are people that do not care and as such they avoid mixers but there are those that may like to obtain more privacy without doing anything wrong and they use mixers, both postures are right and to try to demonize one or the other is wrong.

[DaveF]

And lets face it, I know I have said it before, mixers are for people who don't want to go through the time & effort of hiding their coins themselves.

What I posted before.

There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.

Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

Saying that mixers are designed / used by and for criminals just shows that you do not understand how crypto works or how to do things.
There are also the exchanges that do not require any form of registration such as https://changehero.io/ or https://flyp.me/en/#/ or https://coinswitch.co/
So are exchanges only for criminals too? How about any of the services that have face to face for cash trades (bisq) are they for criminals?


-Dave

[Lorence.xD]

Coin mixers being able to operate publicly is a sign that the Bitcoin economy has a way to go to see legitimacy. Of course coin mixers assist scammers as their purpose is literally to launder money. I’m sure at some point these operations will be shut down, have their funds confiscated, and likely their owners jailed.

If mixers were to go public and shut down their operations on scammers/illegal entities then it will defeat the purpose in the first place, I don't see the point that people are trying to defend mixers because it is true that they are used for such illegal activities, denying it would be looking the other way. I support the privacy of each individual but if that privacy is being used as an excuse to commit crimes, I think that I wouldn't mind having my privacy taken away, better that there are less crimes.

[MCobian]

Regarding the problem of Bitcoin mixers, it has often been discussed, in the end it is returned to ourselves to see from which point of view.
Because for me it is not wise to blame the mixers service without any evidence, because until now I have not found evidence that coin mixers
are only used for criminals. Or we can use the kitchen knife analogy, which was created for cooking. But for criminals it can be used to kill.
So in the end it depends on the user, if used for good things, of course Bitcoin mixers will be good. Likewise if used for bad things,
of course Bitcoin mixers are going to be bad.

[Sithara007]

It is ridiculous to claim that Bitcoin mixers are mostly used by criminals. I am not a criminal and I have used various Bitcoin mixers multiple times to protect my anonymity. Here in India, the government is considering to ban the possession of Bitcoin and make the ownership of BTC a criminal offense. So I regularly use Bitcoin mixers to keep my anonymity intact. Does that makes me a criminal? And I am sure that there are a lot of people like me, who are forced to use Bitcoin mixers.

[Innerpumper]

cryptocurrencies are too widespread in this world. We've even seen some gambling projects, adult content, and drug trafficking that provide them in the form of crypto tokens. I think it's very difficult to get rid of because crypto has no laws in the world. We can only avoid such use to not support crime.

[?QuestionMark?]

According to a Chainalysis report a tiny amount of around 1% of transactions can fall under criminal activity.
In 2019, illicit activity represented 2.1% of all cryptocurrency transaction volume or roughly $21.4 billion worth of transfers. In 2020, the illicit share of all cryptocurrency activity fell to just 0.34%, or $10.0 billion in transaction volume. One reason the percentage of illicit activity fell is because overall economic activity nearly tripled between 2019 and 2020. 
So a tiny minority uses cryptocurrency in an illicit way, while an outstanding majority play mostly by the rules.
What is the matter then?
https://go.chainalysis.com/2021-Crypto-Crime-Report.html

This topic is about coin mixers. You just wasted time posting about something which is completely unrelated to this topic. Looks like you didn't even read the title of this post carefully.

But your right. There's way more criminal activities with fiat (digital only - without cash) done than with all crypto currencies together.

cryptocurrencies are too widespread in this world. We've even seen some gambling projects, adult content, and drug trafficking that provide them in the form of crypto tokens. I think it's very difficult to get rid of because crypto has no laws in the world. We can only avoid such use to not support crime.

This topic is a about coin mixers and not digital currencies in general. Please read before post.

Doing crime on bitcoin or other transparent blockchain is not very smart. Thousands of high criminals using bitcoin got busted. In the future it will be impossible.

And laws will come to digital currencies worldwide. The longer they are without laws the more they are in danger.

Regarding the problem of Bitcoin mixers, it has often been discussed, in the end it is returned to ourselves to see from which point of view.
Because for me it is not wise to blame the mixers service without any evidence, because until now I have not found evidence that coin mixers
are only used for criminals. Or we can use the kitchen knife analogy, which was created for cooking. But for criminals it can be used to kill.
So in the end it depends on the user, if used for good things, of course Bitcoin mixers will be good. Likewise if used for bad things,
of course Bitcoin mixers are going to be bad.

Problem is bitcoin mixers are obvious created by criminals and used by criminals.

The same with an child porn forum or an drug cartel. You don't hire drug cartel members to cut your garden. So the kitchen knife analogy doesn't work.

And lets face it, I know I have said it before, mixers are for people who don't want to go through the time & effort of hiding their coins themselves.

What I posted before.

There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.

Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

Saying that mixers are designed / used by and for criminals just shows that you do not understand how crypto works or how to do things.
There are also the exchanges that do not require any form of registration such as https://changehero.io/ or https://flyp.me/en/#/ or https://coinswitch.co/
So are exchanges only for criminals too? How about any of the services that have face to face for cash trades (bisq) are they for criminals?


-Dave

Besides that the current topic here is coin mixers. Not any of these three are providing legal information on their website which makes it very dubious.

Swap exchanges of course have another use case. Simply swap your current crypto into another of your desire. Which of course is not only used by criminals.

But the use cases here for criminals are very high. Swapping to other coins and destroy the trace to the old coins which came from illegal deals. Hold that coin or simply swap it back to the old one on another swap exchange.

It is ridiculous to claim that Bitcoin mixers are mostly used by criminals. I am not a criminal and I have used various Bitcoin mixers multiple times to protect my anonymity. Here in India, the government is considering to ban the possession of Bitcoin and make the ownership of BTC a criminal offense. So I regularly use Bitcoin mixers to keep my anonymity intact. Does that makes me a criminal? And I am sure that there are a lot of people like me, who are forced to use Bitcoin mixers.

You just said it yourself. According to the current law in your country you are a criminal. So I'm still right with my claim that coin mixers are only used by criminals.

I personally don't see you as a criminal at all. And almost everyone else wouldn't to so also. But your government does. And they control the country your currently living in.

Of course making owning bitcoin a crime is not acceptable. Looks like your government doesn't sees the high potential and benefits of its underlying technology. Or doesn't want to see it.

I hope the situation in your country gets better.

Simplest counterargument: by using fiat, you're supporting terrorism because terrorists are using it.

I've used mixers so that someone who's given me BTC loses its track. Imagine you've purchased $100 worth of BTC from a stranger and they suddenly start stalking you. They've got your entire immutable and undeniable history of all your txs since your purchase.

I've used mixers so that older addresses of mine don't get correlated with new ones. Who knows what kind of info those 2013 BTC accounts of mine held.

I just don't want my personal space invaded. Period. The fact that privacy is now considered to be a criminal's tool is sad.

That's not an counterargument at all. Its so bad that I won't even go into it. Rethink

Buying crypto with fiat in person is a very bad idea in any aspect. So that's your fault. And why should they stalk you, sit all day in front of the computer and watch your transaction on block explorers without any clues where your sending your money to and for what reason. The most unrealistic scenario I've ever heard off. 

Privacy is not a criminal tool. As already someone stated here its dangerous to see it that people are using and abuse it for making crime or even judging their crimes.

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[DaveF]

And lets face it, I know I have said it before, mixers are for people who don't want to go through the time & effort of hiding their coins themselves.

What I posted before.

There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.

Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

Saying that mixers are designed / used by and for criminals just shows that you do not understand how crypto works or how to do things.
There are also the exchanges that do not require any form of registration such as https://changehero.io/ or https://flyp.me/en/#/ or https://coinswitch.co/
So are exchanges only for criminals too? How about any of the services that have face to face for cash trades (bisq) are they for criminals?


-Dave

Besides that the current topic here is coin mixers. Not any of these three are providing legal information on their website which makes it very dubious.

Swap exchanges of course have another use case. Simply swap your current crypto into another of your desire. Which of course is not only used by criminals.

But the use cases here for criminals are very high. Swapping to other coins and destroy the trace to the old coins which came from illegal deals. Hold that coin or simply swap it back to the old one on another swap exchange.

So according to your thoughts, we should:

Have no exchanges that don't have KYC.
No cash so we can't do face to face transactions.
No mixers because only criminals use them.
No services like whirlpool / conjoin for the same reason.
No privacy based altcions.
No precious metals because I could give someone gold / silver / rhodium or any bar of metal which is untraceable.

You must want a very bleak and depressing world or are just work for a bank who sees competition and is panicking.

-Dave
 

[qwk]

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

The argument actually goes the other way round:
mixing in general is mainly a necessity because e.g. exchanges are complicit in the criminal act of "chainalysis" which is pretty obviously contrary to the privacy rights of e.g. European citizens.

As you don't seem to understand the given argument, or might not have noticed it, I would like to reiterate.

Mixing is the only defense against the criminal act of chainalysis.
The legality of chainalysis is probably highly dependent upon your local jurisdiction, but as a European citizen, European law applies to my personal actions and also to the actions of foreign actors against me.
Which is why chainalysis that affects me is a crime.
And in fact, all chainalysis affects me.

Defending against a crime is not a crime in and of itself.
Even acts that may be considered criminal under different circumstances lose their status of illegality once they are committed in self-defense.

E.g. the use of lethal violence against another natural person is usually a crime.
In self-defense, it is not.

Therefore, for the approximately 450 Million EU citizens, mixing is not a crime, because chainalysis is in fact done against every single transaction on the Bitcoin network at any given point in time, which makes every single European Bitcoin user the victim of a criminal act, against which defense is legal.

For a European, mixing is most likely not only not a crime, it's a duty.
Defense against foreign criminal acts committed against the total of all Europeans is the legal basis for things like universal conscription, military expenses etc. pp.

In other words: Fellow European, I want you to mix your coins!

[tranthidung]

And we can blame the mixers. Its only used by and only designed for criminals. That's their whole business module. People running mixers got all arrested in the past, now sentencing over 10 years in federal prison.

You can not blame on them.

Did you know the history or Nobel prize and the career of Alfred Nobel ^[1]. You can not blame on him when you see terrorists use gun, gun power to kill innocent people. It is not the fault from Nobel, never.

Mixers are the same. They give users privacy but they are opened for anyone on the planet to use. You can use them or ignore/ reject them. It is your decision.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel

[Charles-Tim]

Buying crypto with fiat in person is a very bad idea in any aspect.

Some people will not have option, some people will use p2p but because they still just want to have more privacy, they will still make use of mixers.

Privacy is not a criminal tool

Then mixers should not be seen as a criminal tool, if you do, you are thinking one side. Okay, see this scenario, some people saying  bitcoin used in terrorism financing and money laundering, but before bitcoin were deadly terrorists, money launderers and other criminal activities fiats are used for. The people will not blame it on fiat, then why blaming it on bitcoin which is just for digital asset and money sake. Mixers also are for privacy sake but criminals will find their ways into something good, that is why there are many corrupt counties that have many government officials that embezzle their fiat currencies, are such government officials not criminals, they are. 

[ShowOff]

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

No, that's not the main purpose the mixer was made for. You just have to admit that there is another important purpose about the creation of this service and I think you already know that. Mixer is designed for those who really care about privacy and it would still be justifiable to say that a mixer can help criminal disguise their transaction using a mixer. I can't blame fiat just for being used for criminal acts, and I can't blame guns just for being used by muggers and murderers. The service is not to be blamed for just allowing it to be used for bad, it is purely the fault of the users of that service.

[?QuestionMark?]

And lets face it, I know I have said it before, mixers are for people who don't want to go through the time & effort of hiding their coins themselves.

What I posted before.

There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.

Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

Saying that mixers are designed / used by and for criminals just shows that you do not understand how crypto works or how to do things.
There are also the exchanges that do not require any form of registration such as https://changehero.io/ or https://flyp.me/en/#/ or https://coinswitch.co/
So are exchanges only for criminals too? How about any of the services that have face to face for cash trades (bisq) are they for criminals?


-Dave

Besides that the current topic here is coin mixers. Not any of these three are providing legal information on their website which makes it very dubious.

Swap exchanges of course have another use case. Simply swap your current crypto into another of your desire. Which of course is not only used by criminals.

But the use cases here for criminals are very high. Swapping to other coins and destroy the trace to the old coins which came from illegal deals. Hold that coin or simply swap it back to the old one on another swap exchange.

So according to your thoughts, we should:

Have no exchanges that don't have KYC.
No cash so we can't do face to face transactions.
No mixers because only criminals use them.
No services like whirlpool / conjoin for the same reason.
No privacy based altcions.
No precious metals because I could give someone gold / silver / rhodium or any bar of metal which is untraceable.

You must want a very bleak and depressing world or are just work for a bank who sees competition and is panicking.

-Dave
 

1. Having not even one single address given is something complete different than KYC. I don't think KYC is required up to a specific amount. But at an specific amount range it should be obligation.
2. Cash is going away with technological evolution, so not a very interesting topic. And its a constitutional right in many countries so don't have to worry about that
    Besides that I talked about making fiat to crypto deals, face-to-face.
3. Yes, mixers are not needed because only criminals use them.
4. I've never heard of those two things. I've done some short search and all I know so for is that whirpool is a service and it uses a technology called Conjoin to obfuscate UTXOs. But I can't argue right now about that.
5. Yes, I'm against privacy based altcoins like monero. I've read even the book "Mastering Monero" and the technical part is very fascinating. But monero itself is very dangerous for our world.
    Basically everyone knows it but nobody wants to accept it. Neither the monero community or the devs. Who uses monero for normal transactions? And no merchant is accepting it. Besides some weird punk metal stores.
    Monero is the perfect tool created for criminals. Its the perfect payment method for every criminal. A wet dream of every criminal. Almost 100% transactions on the monero chain are from criminal deals. From drugs to child   porn.
6. Precious metals are goods from planet earth with many thousands year of history, so there's no need to make it illegal. The americans made it illegal in the 30s due to some obvious shadowy reasons but surely not because it was private.

We don't need many different altcoins which divides us.

We need one global transparent instant, fast and secure payment system. For everyone.

Banks won't go. Stop believing that. With the right technology you can only make them better and more honest.

Were not criminals from the street can finance a gun deal or some secret services can finance terror groups.

When you eliminate corruption and make it not possible you solve the problems of the world. Then there is no need to be anxious and saying things like "I need that service to hide my money"

I want a free, safe and secure world. For me, my family and everyone else. Not a world filled with corrupts and criminals which destroy millions of lives every day.

Our world will never be perfect and so will be life. But you can always make yours and the ones of everyone else better and more beautiful. Everyday.

[?QuestionMark?]

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

The argument actually goes the other way round:
mixing in general is mainly a necessity because e.g. exchanges are complicit in the criminal act of "chainalysis" which is pretty obviously contrary to the privacy rights of e.g. European citizens.

As you don't seem to understand the given argument, or might not have noticed it, I would like to reiterate.

Mixing is the only defense against the criminal act of chainalysis.
The legality of chainalysis is probably highly dependent upon your local jurisdiction, but as a European citizen, European law applies to my personal actions and also to the actions of foreign actors against me.
Which is why chainalysis that affects me is a crime.
And in fact, all chainalysis affects me.

Defending against a crime is not a crime in and of itself.
Even acts that may be considered criminal under different circumstances lose their status of illegality once they are committed in self-defense.

E.g. the use of lethal violence against another natural person is usually a crime.
In self-defense, it is not.

Therefore, for the approximately 450 Million EU citizens, mixing is not a crime, because chainalysis is in fact done against every single transaction on the Bitcoin network at any given point in time, which makes every single European Bitcoin user the victim of a criminal act, against which defense is legal.

For a European, mixing is most likely not only not a crime, it's a duty.
Defense against foreign criminal acts committed against the total of all Europeans is the legal basis for things like universal conscription, military expenses etc. pp.

In other words: Fellow European, I want you to mix your coins!

When chain analysis would be illegal then those companies won't exists. Simple as that.

And its not in any aspect self defense to mix his coins to protect oneself from a crime. The comparison with deadly self defense is very bad.

And basically nobody cares what you personally think is illegal or not

Prisons also don't care because a drug lord think his threaten illegally because he has only 3 programs on his tv.

So you want to protect every criminal because everyone has his own little reasons. So we should run criminals away with millions in bags because they think it would be illegal to search their bag.

[acquafredda]

According to a Chainalysis report a tiny amount of around 1% of transactions can fall under criminal activity.
In 2019, illicit activity represented 2.1% of all cryptocurrency transaction volume or roughly $21.4 billion worth of transfers. In 2020, the illicit share of all cryptocurrency activity fell to just 0.34%, or $10.0 billion in transaction volume. One reason the percentage of illicit activity fell is because overall economic activity nearly tripled between 2019 and 2020. 
So a tiny minority uses cryptocurrency in an illicit way, while an outstanding majority play mostly by the rules.
What is the matter then?
https://go.chainalysis.com/2021-Crypto-Crime-Report.html

This topic is about coin mixers. You just wasted time posting about something which is completely unrelated to this topic. Looks like you didn't even read the title of this post carefully.

But your right. There's way more criminal activities with fiat (digital only - without cash) done than with all crypto currencies together.

When I talk I like to express my opinions based on facts. You opened a thread stating that mixers are only for criminals and that is your opinion and it cannot be challenged.

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.
Everyone who tries to find an contra argument will be sad because their aren't any

I pointed out a research where you can find evidence and data that could even support your arguments but you do not look for a discussion here as you need to put forth your personal agenda. So be it, keep continuing your monologue

[qwk]

When chain analysis would be illegal then those companies won't exists. Simple as that.

They don't. In Europe. Simple as that.
Or, if they do, they would have to operate under the jurisdiction and according to the rules of European GDPR right, which would be very difficult indeed, to say the least. I.e., they would have to ascertain anonymization of all processed data etc., which ist (IMHO) practically impossible, but in theory doable.

That those companies operate outside of Europe is trivial, otoh.
Or do you believe for a second that every single country in the world would e.g. respect U.S. law?

In other words, from the point of view of the European Union, when it comes to chainalysis, the US is basically part of the "Axis of Evil".

And its not in any aspect self defense to mix his coins to protect oneself from a crime.

It is. I've proven it. If you don't understand the proof, just ask.
I fully understand that you as a (likely) Non-EU-citizen may not be familiar with the jurisdiction of the largest economic superpower in the world, and I forgive you

And basically nobody cares what you personally think is illegal or not

This is not a matter of "who thinks what".
It's a simple fact.
You can look it up in a specific public legal document, which is available in English under
https://gdpr-info.eu
officially published by the (AFAIK) largest legal entity in the world.

Don't trust me, trust the largest body of lawyers in the world.

So you want to protect every criminal

The belief that Coin Mixing would protect criminals is ridiculous.
The opposite is true.
Right now, using a Mixer usually raises a large, red flag, screaming loudly "look at me, I'm possibly doing something fishy".
That's why I don't believe for a second that any professional criminal would be stupid enough to use a mixer.
That's what they have organized crime in the form of so-called "Banks" for.

Mixers, when used by criminals, are most likely used by kids.
But that's a different story.


Again. As a European citizen, I do not only have the right to use a mixer, I consider it a duty.
Chainalysis, otoh, is absolutely illegal if put to use against a EU citizen.
Which makes every single company which perpetrates the criminal act of chainalysis a part of organized crime.
And that fact is proven by the biggest body of lawyers in the world, underwritten in the legal documents of the largest economic superpower in the world.
Now face it, mere mortal, bow to the superiority of European law

[Smartvirus]

It's fascinating how your decision on coin mixers is finite and how you seem to take rulings on arguments @OP.
Your very correct that, the criminals uses this services but, so do users with great concerned over the chain link of there transactions. The services is a need one and someone or group of persons have got to provide them and we find it in the hands of coin mixers.

I'm yet to use the services of coin mixers and i can't completely rule out the fact that, i might one day. I just haven't seen the need as i am okay with my transactions being visible for now.

[seoincorporation]

If you hit a jackpot in a casino and you want to hide your coins with a mixer service, then are you a criminal?

If you was an early miner and you want to hide your coins with a mixer service, then are you a criminal?

I don't think so... A lot of criminals use the mixing service to hide their coins, but not all the users from the mixers are criminals, you can be sure of that.

[bct-user]

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

How do you know this? Any proofs, bro?
Bitcoin or coin mixers are basically created not for criminals, it is intended for people who need more privacy. If there are some criminals who use this service, it doesn't mean this service is created for them but it is one of the weaknesses or negative sides of this service. Then, maybe this mixer service needs more improvement.

[Mahanton]

Bitcoin mixers and coin mixers in general are only designed for criminals and are only used for criminals.

How do you know this? Any proofs, bro?
Bitcoin or coin mixers are basically created not for criminals, it is intended for people who need more privacy. If there are some criminals who use this service, it doesn't mean this service is created for them but it is one of the weaknesses or negative sides of this service. Then, maybe this mixer service needs more improvement.

What improvement? Lets just accept that this is one of the con's or things that cant really be avoided on using up services like these on where
criminals would really be taking advantage of this service and blaming off the service isn't really just right but government do really love to target out
these gateways on trying to shut-off money laundering and other criminal fund transfers or whatsoever. How to deal with it?
better to ignore than to stress out yourself.