ChipMixer directly enables Scammers, Drug Dealers, CP, Terrorists, Tax Evaders..

[nutildah]

The Silk Road was the purpose of Bitcoin..

The purpose of bitcoin is to provide a secure and decentralized platform for peer-to-peer transfer of digital cash.

[Obito]

I find this kind of thing a little bit on the gray area, on one side, people are helped because they earn money at signature campaigns of Chipmixer and the people are free from the prying eyes of entities threatening their finances and on the other hand, I do hate that mixers/tumblers are used by this despicable people. I tend to lean on advocating that a certain transparency would be added to mixers/tumblers because as much as I want the freedom to everything, I don't want people to abuse it and not being held responsible for their actions.

You have to choose sides when it comes to it, you should know that. There will be a gray area but we still have to choose sides. Chipmixer was made so government can't nose in to the businesses of their citizens, now if they were doing something nefarious, there are other ways to implicate them like being caught red handed, getting killed or better yet is they surrender. Transparency will be bowing down to the very things that Chipmixer is fighting in the first place.

[eaLiTy]

There is a good example, namely the SilkRoad platform.
Which many of the respected members of the forum supported in their time. Remember how it all began?

If you were around you will understand the circumstances, BTCitcoin was a new market and no one had any idea about its direction except the fact that it had potential and it is not a big surprise everyone is an anarchist and when Silk Road was discussed everyone was interested because we will have a market place to use BTCitcoin and many were skeptical about illegal activities as well, so you need to understand the context of the situation rather than pointing fingers after a decade.

[DaveF]

The Silk Road was the purpose of Bitcoin..

What is it these days?
Alphabay? But I haven’t explored in a long time..

I’m all for free markets..

Although a bit OT, last I heard [I did not check] most darknet markets are using XMR instead of BTC since it's way more anonymous.

Back to the subject on hand, there seems to be a bit of a loop going on here and although people seem to agree with me they still come back to CM is for "bad people"

No, it's for lazy people. There is nothing CM does that you can not do yourself. I just went and setup accounts on 2 exchanges that require nothing more then an email, actually used a separate disposable email service for each one while sitting in a parking lot on the free Wi-Fi from the Wendy's

Both have about the same price on XMR at the moment. So I could move my BTC to 1 of the exchanges, trade to XMR, withdraw to another exchange and trade back to BTC and to my wallet.

Would cost me ~ 30 minutes of time, 1.5% trade fee, .01 XMR withdraw fee and the BTC withdraw fee.

To find me you would need to get the records of an exchange in China and exchange someplace else and then figure out how to trace XMR.

*I did not do this because I have better things to do with my time but the point remains the same.
Or, I don't know, install Samourai Wallet and use Whirlpool and be done.

-Dave

[savetheFORUM]

This topic deserves a bump because not many users have the balls to challenge the CM gang members.

My views about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322654.msg56527676#msg56527676