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[rdbase]

I hope to see a Ferrari podium today.  It is home GP for them.

Wish granted!
With Leclerc taking the Italian Grand Prix in convincing fashion.
I think McLaren after the race said they messed up pitting both drivers yet again to cost them first place.

Yuki retired and Max finished sixth place. Also no safety car or even a virtual one. Which was surprising since from Canada totaling seven races in a row.
So there has been some clean racing we had witnessed for the past few months straight.
Well done F1 drivers!

[LTU_btc]

Wish granted!
With Leclerc taking the Italian Grand Prix in convincing fashion.
I think McLaren after the race said they messed up pitting both drivers yet again to cost them first place.

Yuki retired and Max finished sixth place. Also no safety car or even a virtual one. Which was surprising since from Canada totaling seven races in a row.
So there has been some clean racing we had witnessed for the past few months straight.
Well done F1 drivers!

What can be better for Ferrari than winning home race, especially in such way like Leclerc did. Not Ferrari fan, but it's nice that finally we don't have to make memes about their strategy failures.
What can't be said about Mclaren. It looks that they just don't want to fight for title. Yeah, maybe they will take constructors trophy, but that's all what they can do. Max finishing even at low positions aren't losing much to Norris and he can afford such results until end of season.
That was clean race and it ended so fast - for Leclerc it took just 1 hour 14 minutes to finish race, can't remember when we had such short race.
BTW, Kevin Magnussen will miss Azerbaijan GP - he managed to collect 12 points during this season what means that he is banned for 1 race. Such things doesn't happen that often. He will be replaced by Oliver Bearman.

[stompix]

Just for fun, I'm taking a no on Russell combinations with everyone to the podium with McLarens!

Rusell never disappoints when betting against him when he's in a god form, always manages to screw things from the start.
He will probably be my leading man when it comes to places and podiums, he never disappointed me when getting against.

As for Lando, he got screwed out of his championship chances right at this moment, he had 17 points in grasp, and Piastri did a number on him, second time.

What can't be said about Mclaren. It looks that they just don't want to fight for title. Yeah, maybe they will take constructors trophy, but that's all what they can do. Max finishing even at low positions aren't losing much to Norris and he can afford such results until end of season.

They need 8 points for the constructor, and that's done, it's McLaren against Max with a worse car, no way they can defend that, and I am actually looking at bets of RB losing the second spot to Ferrari.
For the driver title 62 points, 8 races, Lando needs 8 points per race, it will be a thing of beating the Mercedes, if he can't secure the 5th place by default Max will lose, no matter the mistakes at the top, RB right now is the 4th car in performance.

[Koal-84]

As for Lando, he got screwed out of his championship chances right at this moment, he had 17 points in grasp, and Piastri did a number on him, second time.

These points could then hurt Norris a lot at the end of the season and it's just a matter of one or two points to the world champion, I'm not a friend of the stable order and this time Piastri was just faster, but the last time Piastri (by a bad pit strategy) to let over again was clearly a mistake for me, hopefully it will not take revenge at the end of the season, by a few points.

[rdbase]

As for Lando, he got screwed out of his championship chances right at this moment, he had 17 points in grasp, and Piastri did a number on him, second time.

These points could then hurt Norris a lot at the end of the season and it's just a matter of one or two points to the world champion, I'm not a friend of the stable order and this time Piastri was just faster, but the last time Piastri (by a bad pit strategy) to let over again was clearly a mistake for me, hopefully it will not take revenge at the end of the season, by a few points.

No one is really talking about this because all they see were both taking the podium but in actuality they messed up their season big time!

You can even see it when they were in the breakroom right after the race with Lando's expression of WTF! with his fingers on his temple rubbing them together saying to himself "Why is McLaren sabotaging the season for me right before my eyes with these stupid team orders?"

Lando Norris looking so PISSED in the Cooldown Room and Disappointed after got beaten by Oscar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw0OsYCVhP4

Even during a post-race interview Oscar had no comment if he would even help Lando. So team work has a double standard within the McLaren team? Alright then Zak Brown. You are favoring one driver over another. Very fair there!
Oscar Piastri "NO COMMENT" on if he'd help Lando.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGHz9heMuO8

Matt & Tommy on their youtube channel were quite content with Leclerc winning as this is Matt's team - Ferrari with them finally getting a first place finish race after race of not getting there but at Italy it was their time!

2024 Italian Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tTxK5kAW0

[barbara44]

As for Lando, he got screwed out of his championship chances right at this moment, he had 17 points in grasp, and Piastri did a number on him, second time.

These points could then hurt Norris a lot at the end of the season and it's just a matter of one or two points to the world champion, I'm not a friend of the stable order and this time Piastri was just faster, but the last time Piastri (by a bad pit strategy) to let over again was clearly a mistake for me, hopefully it will not take revenge at the end of the season, by a few points.

That is true, Norris is so close and he needs to win every race he can, getting these results is not enough, he needs to win the races. The teams mistake cost him a lot of points and that's a very sad situation for him.

Piastri being second is also very and for them too, Norris should have taken that step, it's clear that they lost Norris two big positions with team orders now, they could have given Norris a chance to be much closer, and it's sad that he is not. I think it's sad not just for Norris, I am not just some Norris fan, neither a Max fan, I like watching all of them to be fair, but if the league was closer, it would be more fun. It's still close, 62 points and 8 races if I am not wrong, anything could happen at this level.

Let's see how Norris and Max will react, 8 races means that even if Norris wins, Max could be second and the difference would nearly be enough if I am not wrong, but looks like Max and podium will be a tough one, he is not doing that great and the car is not doing that great neither and he could get bad results for a while longer. This means that Norris has a chance to win races where Max is not on the podium, and that could close the gap very quickly.

[stompix]

You can even see it when they were in the breakroom right after the race with Lando's expression of WTF! with his fingers on his temple rubbing them together saying to himself "Why is McLaren sabotaging the season for me right before my eyes with these stupid team orders?"

RB is paying them 
I think McLaren messed up the last time and now they can't go back on that decision and they want to portray themselves as being fair to both pilots or something like that, with friendship and teamwork before anything else,  some really cringeworthy sentimental stuff. At this point they've dug their hole, no way they will ever try to push Lando to win, it would be like admitting they've screwed up!

Still, can't be that angry with them, it favors with my bets, McLaren for team, Max for driver.

Two weeks till Azerbaijan and I don't like the straight odds, Max is 7.5 and RB is 5.5.
Common, what is this? Does somebody really think Perez might get a win? Really?

Talking further about weird odds

RB 5:1 Ferrari 26:1 ?
I would take a bet of Ferrari beating RB the moment I saw it!

Let's see how Norris and Max will react, 8 races means that even if Norris wins, Max could be second and the difference would nearly be enough if I am not wrong, but looks like Max and podium will be a tough one, he is not doing that great and the car is not doing that great neither and he could get bad results for a while longer.

With this car Max on the podium will be an exception from the rule, dreaming of getting right behind the McLarens and beating the Ferrari and Mercedes every time is probably top of what they desire.
 

[redsun114]

@stompix
The fact that Red Bull has such odds makes me want to take that deal but I know that Mclaren will win it in the end. I mean it's clear that we are going to see Max do fine rest of the season but Perez will not, and even Max is finishing behind both Mclaren drivers so there is no way that Perez could keep the difference.

It's clear that Mclaren will get the title this season. Such an odd thing to say because I remember clearly just a few seasons ago, maybe not last season but the one before that, Zak Brown was about to get fired for having such terrible results, they started the season with incredibly bad results and because of that they ended up getting terrible media headlines too, and they were about to fire him, just as a new upgrade hit and ever since that day they have been getting better and better and better.

Aston Martin went the other way, during the same time when Mclaren was terrible, Aston Martin was amazing and instead of getting better they just ended up getting worse and worse, right now they are one of the worst ones out there. Sometimes, not upgrading or upgrading in a way that doesn't help as much as you think, could have some bad results, because others are keep improving at the same time.

[emrecemsan]

Wish granted!
With Leclerc taking the Italian Grand Prix in convincing fashion.
I think McLaren after the race said they messed up pitting both drivers yet again to cost them first place.

Yuki retired and Max finished sixth place. Also no safety car or even a virtual one. Which was surprising since from Canada totaling seven races in a row.
So there has been some clean racing we had witnessed for the past few months straight.
Well done F1 drivers!

Yes, I'm so happy with the result.    I was taking a pity on Leclerc as he wasn't able to get the results he wanted. But the win he wanted came just in the right time at the home of his team.

McLaren is really a joke. I really believe they don't care at all if Norris has a chance for the drivers championship or not. They only think about winning the constructors championship. This is ill thinking.

Piastri's saying "No comment." is no surprise to me.    But I'm not blaming it on him of course. McLaren was the one that should have told Piastri earlier not to make big difficulties for his teammate.

[stompix]

@stompix
The fact that Red Bull has such odds makes me want to take that deal but I know that Mclaren will win it in the end. I mean it's clear that we are going to see Max do fine rest of the season but Perez will not, and even Max is finishing behind both Mclaren drivers so there is no way that Perez could keep the difference.

Unless a miracle happens and some genius in the team finds out what is going wrong with the car and suddenly they are back to last season there is absolutely no way Mclaren would lose, no way! The only tiny possibility would be Ferrari beating them, but that again is really a stretch.
I'm looking at team vs team for the championship and there are simply no bets available, as I would take for sure Ferrari over RB, they should be somewhere at least 1.5 right now, but no bookie offers that, the only head I got is at stake but for Ferrari vs Mercedes:


I don't know about others but this doesn't look a bit attractive to me, and getting money stuck for months on a bet ain't an option.

Piastri's saying "No comment." is no surprise to me.    

What was he going to say? I was so focused on winning that I lost and made my teammate lose too.
Ferrari did pull a fast one on them with the stop but still....

[rdbase]

The fact that Red Bull has such odds makes me want to take that deal but I know that Mclaren will win it in the end. I mean it's clear that we are going to see Max do fine rest of the season but Perez will not, and even Max is finishing behind both Mclaren drivers so there is no way that Perez could keep the difference.

Unless a miracle happens and some genius in the team finds out what is going wrong with the car and suddenly they are back to last season there is absolutely no way Mclaren would lose, no way! The only tiny possibility would be Ferrari beating them, but that again is really a stretch.
I'm looking at team vs team for the championship and there are simply no bets available, as I would take for sure Ferrari over RB, they should be somewhere at least 1.5 right now, but no bookie offers that, the only head I got is at stake but for Ferrari vs Mercedes:

I don't know about others but this doesn't look a bit attractive to me, and getting money stuck for months on a bet ain't an option.

Piastri's saying "No comment." is no surprise to me.

What was he going to say? I was so focused on winning that I lost and made my teammate lose too.
Ferrari did pull a fast one on them with the stop but still....

This was all because Oscar is the rookie and thus has too listen to Zak Brown and his team orders which funnel down to him. He is trying to impress them and doesn't care about Norris and his chances at constructors championship. Piastri can hide behind Zak's skirt if Lando confronts him about what he has done on the track while the race is going on.

@Emrecemsan those odds look great and think I might take them even if I have to wait til the end of the season and have my stake amount locked up for that long.
They also have a rookie driver in Kimi Antonelli and more than likely let him have a go on a track if they don't score enough points to make it even close to third place near the end of the season against Ferrari.

Next race is the following week going to the Baku City Circuit track at Azerbaijan.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Sorry for being late but..... what the hell is Lando saying??? I can only say he wants to cover the missmanagement of McClaren, you cant say Ferraris has a better car..... when it was clear McClaren was a little bit ahead. The only diference was the Ferrari strategy who paid them because the tyres resist just in the edege, two more laps and Piastri was gonna overpass Leclerc very easy.

[rdbase]

^^
I think he is blaming McLaren for what is going on with that statement but indirectly because they are currently in the later half of the season and doesn't want to look anymore negative than he has to be. Norris has all the right to be from the way they have been treating Oscar over him.
So in his own way he is saying "Ferrari did a better job(believe he is referring to their pitstops) and has the better car." according how the Italian GP turned out and the results they had over both him and Piastri taking first place in the race.

[danherbias07]

Next stop.
FORMULA 1 QATAR AIRWAYS AZERBAIJAN GRAND PRIX 2024
https://www.formula1.com/en/racing/2024/azerbaijan

15 Sep Race 19:00
14 Sep Qualifying 20:00 - 21:00
14 Sep Practice 3 16:30 - 17:30
13 Sep Practice 2 21:00 - 22:00
13 Sep Practice 1 17:30 - 18:30

Lewis Hamilton said before that it has the best crowd ever.

The track, on the other hand, many say it's cruel. The walls, the sharp turns, etc.


https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/formula-1/formula-1/azerbaijan-grand-prix-2024-race/azerbaijan-grand-prix-2024-race-66d4afe5cf1cd00001e91cfc
Good luck with your bets guys.

[emrecemsan]

After the end of the 16th race of the season, the current standings for drivers and constructors are like these:


<sub>Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/results/2024/drivers


Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/results/2024/team</sub>

McLaren is only 8 points behind. In the Azerbaijan GP, they have a big chance to lead the standings.    What do you say for it? I think it will definitely happen while Perez is already terrible and Verstappen is also struggling more and more...

As for driver standings, I wish Norris collected more points so far. This 62-point gap isn't impossible to close in 8 races but it needs hell of a work. Above all else, McLaren needs to be clear on this. They should show this to us with their actions.

I understand Piastri only wants to show his skills at every opportunity. But Zak Brown should talk to him on this topic. If Piastri was in Norris' position I would absolutely think the same.

[boltz]

If Perez won't perform at Baku , then for sure McLaren will be 1st on Constructors Championship after this race , because we clearly saw that Max cannot fight alone and cannot prove sufficient points in order to keep RedBull on 1st place. I also have a feeling if Perez won't perform in the next 2-3 races , he will simply be fired from RedBull ( because there is still a performance task in his contract that force him to bring points for RedBull which he doesn't ).

There are also slight chances to see Aston Martin performing great here and I can also see Stroll beating Alonso into h2h team fight.

[Volgastallion]

I can imagine a Helmut Marko super pissed off about sergio Perez performance, and i dont balme him at all if that is happening, Perez in this season is by far the worst driver in the season (Sargeant was worst but now he is gonne) i mean you have a super top car and you are always fighting for the last spots of points and plus in qualification you are not even close to the front.

The worst part of all of this is........ he have an extended contract, which made me think is this a revenge from him to the team?

[emrecemsan]

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Ollie Bearman to replace Magnussen in Azerbaijan. 

After the one-race ban Magnussen got recently, I was wondering who was going to take his place. I'm so glad to hear that it is Bearman. Because he really impressed us in the race Sainz was absent and drove his car for Ferrari. He has already got the contract for 2025 from Haas as well. It would be nice to see him warming up to the car already.

By the way what a start it was by Colapinto! He finished in 12th place and people already started to talk about him. He has an insane level of support by Argentinean people. I hope he can keep up with Albon. 

[rdbase]

If Perez won't perform at Baku , then for sure McLaren will be 1st on Constructors Championship after this race , because we clearly saw that Max cannot fight alone and cannot prove sufficient points in order to keep RedBull on 1st place. I also have a feeling if Perez won't perform in the next 2-3 races , he will simply be fired from RedBull ( because there is still a performance task in his contract that force him to bring points for RedBull which he doesn't ).
There are also slight chances to see Aston Martin performing great here and I can also see Stroll beating Alonso into h2h team fight.

Yeah had also noticed Alonso's performance has been decreasing with every race. Now Stroll is looking like the more dominate driver between the two for Aston Martin. Which is strange to even say the way he was driving at the very start of the season.
Perez even if he doesn't perform in the next race at Baku, he's spot at Red Bull had been set. So he is not under pressure since Verstappen's performance has been less than stellar. He is probably smiling under his helmet at this so he know his seat is safe.

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Ollie Bearman to replace Magnussen in Azerbaijan.
After the one-race ban Magnussen got recently, I was wondering who was going to take his place. I'm so glad to hear that it is Bearman. Because he really impressed us in the race Sainz was absent and drove his car for Ferrari. He has already got the contract for 2025 from Haas as well. It would be nice to see him warming up to the car already.
By the way what a start it was by Colapinto! He finished in 12th place and people already started to talk about him. He has an insane level of support by Argentinean people. I hope he can keep up with Albon.

Was wondering who they were going to replace Magnussen during this race at Azerbaijan for next weekend.
So thanks for the update on the Haas driver situation. Bearman is the reserve driver for Ferrari this season right?

[Volgastallion]

Very good to see more drivers taking a chance to race in a F1 when everybody knows is one of the most dificult task in the life of a driver reaching a f1 car, because of the very few seats we have.

I hope to see Ollie Bearman doing a good impression. Anyways is not gonna be easy because Baku is a super hard track and more if you are not so suit to the car you are gonna drive.