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June 17, 2021, 09:25:12 AM
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?

Poker is a game were in order to win you should be both, very rational(most of the time) and unpredictable(sometimes). An erratic individual can do just fine in the field of unpredictability, but being good in another field, rationality, can be crucial for achieving good results in the end.

So, Yes, I think most great poker players are living normal life, without being unpredictable, because otherwise it would be very inconvenient for those around. And, yes, they can be more unpredictable in games than those who are unpredictable all the time.

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June 17, 2021, 09:40:41 AM
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But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.

In addition, we must not forget that the other players also have cards in hand, and they can really have a good game. That's why poker is so unpredictable.

Some of the gamblers skills regarding wtih the cards they know the chance and the probability outcome of their opponent's cards which is a good strategy too some of them make a deep knowledge regarding with the poker like statistics some of the gambler trying to win the game by having the outcome of their card some times having confident on higher scorecards gives them the chance of winning not all wage but still a profit.

In my country when they play casual poker they try to always give them a hint to their enemy about what kind of card they have just shown they will win immediately.

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June 17, 2021, 09:45:32 AM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
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June 17, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
I think it would be better to stay focused on keeping your pattern in the game, instead of predicting your opponent's thoughts I guess it will just mess up your strategy. With you having a pattern in the game, you can change the pattern at any time according to the card in hand, if you can master it, I'm sure you will be unpredictable and put you in control of the game.

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June 17, 2021, 11:49:16 AM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .

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June 17, 2021, 01:03:38 PM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .

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June 17, 2021, 01:38:10 PM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.


Emotions are just part of the game, managing it is key in gambling. When playing poker there are two things we need to consider. First, we need to keep our emotions in check so it doesn't affect our decision making. And second, we need to make sure that we don't show our emotions when playing at a table. If our opponents can smell fear the will bluff us.


Emotions always play the big role in playing poker, you can trick your opponents thinking that you are in fear,

Letting them to bluff you and got burned, if you have the capabilities in hiding what's inside you it will serve as good advantage to your side,
though it's not easy as it is, the needs of more experienced and practices from each sits around the table is very important.
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June 17, 2021, 02:41:18 PM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
If they fear losing their money, it is better they do not play gambling and never try to come to the casino. If someone can not deal with his emotions but still play gambling, he will not have a chance to take care of his money instead of losing it for a long time. The important here is always to control the emotion and greed because that will come to them even when they are playing gambling.

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June 17, 2021, 03:24:21 PM
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


There does not have to be any kind of correlation between those two aspects, after all poker is a game in which math is heavily involved so for example if you wanted to raise your unpredictability a few points then you could take a look at your watch, while wearing glasses to cover your eyes of course, and if you happen to lay your eyes on the watch at a particular second or seconds then you could bluff or do some other action, this way you become unpredictable as not even you know what you will do.

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June 17, 2021, 05:09:46 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
When it comes to poker games it's a bit tricky. Developing technique to remain unpredictable requires consistent practice and gambling all most all the time. You just have to practice to be good at what you do and also do them well enough to secure your winnings m


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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.

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June 17, 2021, 06:25:15 PM
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returning to the OP's question, because I only knew this topic now...
I believe the best poker players are the ones who don't let any feelings come through. There are those who use facial expressions to bluff, but a good player studies the signs of a liar and can easily notice bluffs after a while.
There is no trick, it's all a matter of practice.

Of course, in a virtual game all that changes, but the emotion of the game is much lower than in a face-to-face game.

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June 17, 2021, 08:56:18 PM
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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.
Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.

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June 18, 2021, 10:03:21 AM
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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.
Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.

Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

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June 18, 2021, 10:41:48 AM
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Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

I think I would have to agree with you because nothing good or beneficiary comes easy. The OP needs to work more on some certain aspects of his strategy and also research more areas that will help to be a good poker. Like you said, nothing comes easy just like a person going to school to get knowledge and certificate that will help to secure a nice paying job.
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Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

I think I would have to agree with you because nothing good or beneficiary comes easy. The OP needs to work more on some certain aspects of his strategy and also research more areas that will help to be a good poker. Like you said, nothing comes easy just like a person going to school to get knowledge and certificate that will help to secure a nice paying job.
Everything in life need effort and time in other to procure a desirable achievement.

curious, I disagree here
sometimes we get lucky and things come easy. But of course this is the exception and not the rule and we can't only wait for luck if we want to achieve success in life.

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June 18, 2021, 06:00:57 PM
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Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.
True indeed but there is a situation where you thought that your opponent said that his/her card is bad hand but it is not true so, in my opinion about face to face playing poker determining the opponents bluffing comparison to bluffing in online poker is a bit the same as playing face to face. I wouldn't say that it is easy to determining the bluff in face to face as some people are the first one to bet decent amount that made the other people think that he/she is bluffing, I've tried it myself and it looked like I am bluffing but the truth is that I didn't, I only have an upper hand that has a higher chance to win (my lucky days back then).

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So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


There does not have to be any kind of correlation between those two aspects, after all poker is a game in which math is heavily involved so for example if you wanted to raise your unpredictability a few points then you could take a look at your watch, while wearing glasses to cover your eyes of course, and if you happen to lay your eyes on the watch at a particular second or seconds then you could bluff or do some other action, this way you become unpredictable as not even you know what you will do.

In my opinion, good poker players always know what they are doing(or at least trying to). Being unpredictable doesn't imply being unpredictable to yourself, you should be unpredictable to others. If you don't know what you are doing, what can happen is, by accident, you can make a move that is expected from you, judging by your previous play.

Also, you can be "wearing glasses to cover your eyes" if you like, but it's not necessary, surely not "of course". These days, the same people who are winning in online poker games take top positions in live poker tours too. Which conclusion can be drawn from this fact, in your opinion?

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totally agree with betwrong here

the concept of being impredictabe to yourself starts weird from point 0, imo

and Poker has a lot to do with skill so this information about many being 1st on online AND irl is really interesting

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Using the bluffing strategy may only work well if some of our opponents are beginners, because the purpose of this strategy is to knock down the opponent's mentality and when their mentality falls they will surrender/close the card. So I suggest not using the bluffing strategy for all opponents because this trick is very easy for opponents to guess because almost all poker players use this trick very often.

That's added to the risk factor, understanding those opponents in front of you,

Some experienced players won't allow you to recognized that they are good in bluffing, they'll allow you to win in some point, studying all you've got before burning your strategy, experienced gamblers especially with skills types of gambling understand the value of observing, they'll start creating strategy after learning the type of opponents they've got inside the table.
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