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March 19, 2021, 11:37:45 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

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March 19, 2021, 11:41:30 PM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink
Seriously, this will depend on you and what type of personality do you have. If you’re look more serious then it can be a good weapon for you, and if you look with less emotion that can also be good. We don’t know how the opponents reads your every move, so stay calm and focus on the game.

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March 19, 2021, 11:47:27 PM
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You just have to play randomly and bluff randomly.

But I doubt it that someone has never bluff. It's always part of the game that we get to bluff when we think that the other opponent will bite it. Or when we just feel that we have to bluff when we're in an all in.

There's no actual random strategy that will make you difficult to be predicted because by just sitting alone, we're already hard to predict. In real life and actual poker table, just always have a poker face.  Cool

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March 20, 2021, 01:39:21 AM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

This may not be true. Your emotions and strategies could still be predictable even if you are playing online poker.

For me, you can be unpredictable if you don't stick to a single strategy. Please don't treat me as an expert in poker, of course. I am mostly just playing for fun and even with fun poker games with little bets, my hand would still uncontrollably shake.

Anyway, having only one approach will make your play very transparent. Try to shift from one approach to another and your opponent will keep on guessing. Being too methodical in poker would be to your disadvantage. Playing only premium hands, for example, will soon become apparent to your opponent and you may easily fall to weaker hands through a bluff.

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March 20, 2021, 01:52:08 AM
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Be random, play with confidence in your every move and that means stop playing safe and move however you want I suppose? Big risks, big rewards kind of mentality. Poker is one such type of game out there that requires you to actively take risks while still using your brain to come up with strategies and the like. Ofc, bluffing is can and will be used, but don't be stupid and use it all the time. Use it at occasions where you think it could work out (don't exactly know when, I just bluff when I think it's good). Or you can purposely throw a few rounds here and there, betting quite an amount waiting for a scenario where you can take it all back. This, however, only works on the first scenario since people would only think of you as reckless once so take care. 

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March 20, 2021, 02:00:53 AM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

This may not be true. Your emotions and strategies could still be predictable even if you are playing online poker.

For me, you can be unpredictable if you don't stick to a single strategy. Please don't treat me as an expert in poker, of course. I am mostly just playing for fun and even with fun poker games with little bets, my hand would still uncontrollably shake.

Anyway, having only one approach will make your play very transparent. Try to shift from one approach to another and your opponent will keep on guessing. Being too methodical in poker would be to your disadvantage. Playing only premium hands, for example, will soon become apparent to your opponent and you may easily fall to weaker hands through a bluff.
On a real poker match, one key factor that everyone is keeping their eye on to their opponent are their faces especially the eye as it gives off if they are bluffing or not. When it comes to online poker, that key factor is gone and you must analyze if your opponent are bluffing or not based on their bets and play style but being inconsistent on your strategy can make you unpredictable and confuse your opponents.

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March 20, 2021, 02:23:53 AM
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Being cold face to the other player can be a solution, and do not change your gesture, and not think much. You can take a look at your card, close it on the table, and not check it too often while you still use cold face. I think that can make the other player curious about your card, and they want to find out. But I am not sure if you against the pro player because I feel they will know it somehow.

But if it comes to poker online, you can play without any tension, and you can check your card many times because the opponent will not know what you do. So I think that makes you feel safe about your card. But I do not think about bluffing the other player as you do not know what their reaction.
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March 20, 2021, 03:11:35 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Avoiding being easy to read depends on your personality. Every person has some attributes and bluffing only works if you are actually very confident. I do think you should start with building your confidence, then you have to learn about your opponent also , it you do know that your opponent is bluffing this would be extremely helpful since you can avoid being caught. Have you heard of quote that *liars know when someone is lying*. I might not know anything about poker but at the same time I can bluff all the way to the top. We sat down with friends this evening to play a little and I won even though I had not a single idea only about the high cards and the premium hands.

So just be :
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Make sure you are not just bluffing but at the same time keep your backup and know when to fold.

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March 20, 2021, 03:34:54 AM
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I don't play poker but I did watch a lot of movies and anime that has poker game on it, so I am sure that bluff is a very great technique to win in poker or escape a loss on it. Bluff is to make your opponents have second thoughts, and once you succeeded on doing such, their decisions would probably half assed therefore most likely you'll win or lessen the amount of money you're about to lose if you'll not use bluff for it.

But I think that's only important if you're playing in a physical casino but it doesn't matter when playing in online casino.
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Do not stick to one strategy. If you are bluffing for a long period of time, of course they will gonna predict your move.  Whatever strategy you will have in poker, they will always read and predict it. Just play with your diffirenr style or instinct and once you win a good profit, self control and running with the profits is the best move rather than being greedy as the longer you stay with any game like poker, the more they predict your strategy.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

What you ask is known as balancing, but it is only worthwhile to start balancing at medium levels. At micro limits or at the lower levels of land based casinos, people don't think too much. At those levels it is enough to select your starting hands well and bet for value aggressively.

When you go up levels, you will find more opponents who think and pay attention to what you do. So, if you are one of those who only bet when you have good hands, they will not pay you for value, and if they do it will be because they have a better hand than yours. This is where the concept of range balancing comes in. For preflop plays, for example, let's say a 3bet range of value is TT+, AJs+; Aqo+. If you want to balance you have to put into the range other hands that are not as good but may have good postflop playability depending on what comes out, such as 22-55 or 78s-TJs.

For postflop play the same, you can't just bet or re-raise only when you have a good hand, you have to start doing it with other hands, and it's better to start with semi-bluffs and later on you will put in pure bluffs.


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March 20, 2021, 06:44:26 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I think the most important think to make you unpredictable is include a wider range of bluffs in your play sytle. But you should be careful not to over bluff. So instead of beginning to bluff too much when you are new to a table, I would recommend to stick to good startin hands for a while until you get the rep of playing only good cards. This is going to make it much easier for others to fold to your bets. But be careful to choose your bluff spots right. The right way of bluffing is not that easy. You need to make sure that you have atleast some blocker cards to make your bluff more believing.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
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March 20, 2021, 07:23:56 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
not sure if this actually works(since I don't know if my opponents think I am unpredictable) but having different plays or adust your plays for different cards on your hands is probably the best way to throw off or confuse your opponents. just like what Darker45 said do not stick to a single strategy. even in other games or sports playing the same strategy over and over again will make you predictable or easy to read. also

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March 20, 2021, 08:31:51 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I'm sure the random approach has its merits, but one technique that I sometimes use if I have a very strong hand is bet very conservatively initially, and then later on, say on the turn or the river we get a card that is no value to anyone, I suddenly bet big. More often than not this makes people think you are bluffing. The key I think with any strategy is to use it sparingly. Don't play to a pattern, because that becomes easy to read.






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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Then be unpredictable, if you have good hand then don't act like you have, sometimes you have to play aggressive if you have a bad hand, and same when you have a good hand. So that your opponents will be having a hard time reading you and your cards.

And I would say that it's will also take a lot of practice, meaning you have to play at lot and of course you need to have a good bankroll as well.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

There is no easy way to do that but you can for example bluff when you are playing during a hand with low amount betted on.I would not suggest you never bluff in a hand when many people have gone all in.The more you play the more you will know when to bluff.

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March 20, 2021, 09:15:22 AM
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There is no easy way to do that but you can for example bluff when you are playing during a hand with low amount betted on. I would not suggest you never bluff in a hand when many people have gone all in.The more you play the more you will know when to bluff.
You can practice having a poker face and make your strategy of playing mixed so as to make people think that you are playing randomly and always giveaway a red herring that the other players will notice but not in an overt manner like simple chin rub. Also the word is unpredictable, impredictable shows red lines when I type it in the post so it is not a real word.

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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

This may not be true. Your emotions and strategies could still be predictable even if you are playing online poker.

For me, you can be unpredictable if you don't stick to a single strategy. Please don't treat me as an expert in poker, of course. I am mostly just playing for fun and even with fun poker games with little bets, my hand would still uncontrollably shake.

Anyway, having only one approach will make your play very transparent. Try to shift from one approach to another and your opponent will keep on guessing. Being too methodical in poker would be to your disadvantage. Playing only premium hands, for example, will soon become apparent to your opponent and you may easily fall to weaker hands through a bluff.
Yes, the longer the sessions the easier to get how people play poker. I agree it is not the same as playing live face2face but still if you are skilled enough you will get to know other people's strategies. For example, who folds a lot at the beginning will probably raise only when having good hands. You go to see them once and then they do not know how to continue playing.
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Being unpredictable is a skill in life as much as at the card table. I would say to mix things up. When not a lot of funds are on the line, do the opposite of what is expected of you. Add some randomness to your game and your life. You’ll live longer.

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Being unpredictable is a skill in life as much as at the card table. I would say to mix things up. When not a lot of funds are on the line, do the opposite of what is expected of you. Add some randomness to your game and your life. You’ll live longer.
Well said, being a bit Machiavellian is a rule to survive this difficult world. The principles you stated can be really applied anywhere: when choosing a password, when storing bitcoin keys, when doing a gift to somebody...
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink
Seriously, this will depend on you and what type of personality do you have. If you’re look more serious then it can be a good weapon for you, and if you look with less emotion that can also be good. We don’t know how the opponents reads your every move, so stay calm and focus on the game.

You may be surprised, but playing online means that you will be as predictable as possible. Professional players use special software that collects all statistics on players, so they see how likely you are to act in different situations. These statistics gathering programs create a complete pattern of player behavior.

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There is an interesting psychological trick that can be successfully applied in the game of poker. 

Its essence lies in the creation of subpersonalities and interaction with players from the position of subpersonalities.  This is not difficult if you have studied acting and know how to get used to the role according to Stanislavsky's method.  This will allow you to always be unpredictable.  It will be very difficult for your opponents to predict your actions. 

Also pay attention to the game Mafia.  The Mafia game is very popular in Ukraine and Russia. 

Mafia lovers are masters of bluffing, and poker players can learn a lot from them.

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Some of a player all in at the beginning while had a bad card, this strategy for check how possible he gets a win when bluffing. in the next game he raising the bet and wait for another player for calling if another player raises his bet, he will fold his card. I've ever seen this player type and I know what purpose is unpredictable, in the next game he plays as usually if he had possible winning he waiting for another player to raising and of course will reraise his bet. It's hard to know the nature of the player while playing, it might be better to watch before sitting on chair.

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if you are good at hiding your expression your enemy will have a hard time predicting you but there is no way to ensure that your moves are not predictable because its hard to know if what is running in your oponents head but playing against the enemy that you havent faced before will make you confident with your moves because they are unfamiliar with you .
im not pro at playing poker but that is the best solution that i can think of
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
If you are new to the poker game, I think the other player will not feel difficult to predict if you have a good card or not because they can see if you are new to poker. People can see if you can bluff them or you are just trying to trick them, especially if you play with a veteran in a poker game. Maybe they will look a dump or even newbie and pretend they do not have skills in poker, but in the next minute, they can turn become a pro and beat your card.

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March 20, 2021, 02:42:43 PM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

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That sounds funny but it's a great advise actually, our opponent would not see our emotion when we are playing online so we can always hide it.
However, if we really like to learn more, we need to experience betting more, don't bet an aggressive amount if you are not yet seasoned as a poker player, just be patient your time will come when you improve.
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March 20, 2021, 06:27:02 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
You can use your own strategy or method to convince your opponent that you get the better hand, by playing casually and not caring if your opponent is suspicious of reading the cards you have.  every now and then maybe do a ridiculous strategy of throwing cards that can panic them

Oh. You're saying the he must perform some bluff in order to make his opponents like unpredictable about his moves or like unaware of his cards. I think bluffing is one of the most used strategy in poker yet it is not guaranteed to always succeed or effective. Sometimes, bluffing can be the reason why you'll end up losing. For me, I suggest to give the best decision always because we all know that poker game isn't a long way game but a very short gametime. I guess and I agree to idea of bluffing, yet always have a second or back up plan in order to avoid losing or to avoid some negative effects.
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March 20, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
You can use your own strategy or method to convince your opponent that you get the better hand, by playing casually and not caring if your opponent is suspicious of reading the cards you have.  every now and then maybe do a ridiculous strategy of throwing cards that can panic them
Try playing against players on different online gaming platforms that are available. Here when you play for long time, you'll get to know about different tricks and strategies. We can't say this will work perfectly when you go on gambling, but you can give a try with small amount of bets on the experimented strategies/tricks.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Just play randomly in terms of emotions and actions/gestures so that your opponent wont really be easily reading up on you in case you do have a bad or good card at hand.

Even just going plain will eventually be hard for someone to know on whats you up to.Dont get yourself too obvious if you do have a bad hand.Try to cover it up
and play smart because this is one of the most common gestures that you can see on a poker game.

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March 20, 2021, 07:56:27 PM
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Basically the person who bluffs you also he doesn't know for sure your card is good or bad, he just has more guts than you and that's why he dares to bluff while not necessarily the card in the opponent's hand is good. So in this case it's not about your cards being easy to read, but maybe it's about your own expression that might be a yardstick for your opponent to then continue bluffing at you at the poker table. It can continue to be learned and improved with experience, so keep calm when betting.

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March 20, 2021, 07:57:05 PM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

Made my day, lol..

That sounds funny but it's a great advise actually, our opponent would not see our emotion when we are playing online so we can always hide it.
However, if we really like to learn more, we need to experience betting more, don't bet an aggressive amount if you are not yet seasoned as a poker player, just be patient your time will come when you improve.
On online tables, well that's really a thing that no one would catch you up unless someone has observed that you're a bluffer and your cards are really weak as you bluff.
I agree with those folks that have said that just do random things and you'll never be observed and noticed with what strategy you do.

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March 20, 2021, 07:59:59 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Just play randomly in terms of emotions and actions/gestures so that your opponent wont really be easily reading up on you in case you do have a bad or good card at hand.

Even just going plain will eventually be hard for someone to know on whats you up to.Dont get yourself too obvious if you do have a bad hand.Try to cover it up
and play smart because this is one of the most common gestures that you can see on a poker game.

I think in todays times most people are training for online poker. Having a fixed strategy for poker is a good idea if you play poker regularly and prefer to play multiple table at once. Once you start to play thousands of hands it is getting very important to ranges you play in similar way to find a profitable strategy in the long run. When playing offline poker it is best to wear a hoodie and sunglasses so we are giving away as little tells as possible.
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March 20, 2021, 08:00:35 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Experience.

More self-techniques and strategies, including the ability to make your opponents not able to read you easily, will be achieved over time.

Even there are specific ways, I don't know if you can apply it fully to its extent if your experience isn't that much. You will be faced with different situations as you progress and that will be your key to creating a unique strategy.

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March 20, 2021, 10:12:15 PM
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Basically the person who bluffs you also he doesn't know for sure your card is good or bad, he just has more guts than you and that's why he dares to bluff while not necessarily the card in the opponent's hand is good. So in this case it's not about your cards being easy to read, but maybe it's about your own expression that might be a yardstick for your opponent to then continue bluffing at you at the poker table. It can continue to be learned and improved with experience, so keep calm when betting.

I don’t think that now anyone relies on the analysis of the player’s emotions when bluffing, these days are already over, as it seems to me now they rely only on mathematics: the meaning of even an obvious bluff is that in order to “catch” a bluffing opponent you have to take a risk the amount of money that is critically important to you. Therefore, many people fold even knowing that the opponent is bluffing.

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March 20, 2021, 11:04:03 PM
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Controlling and hiding your emotions isn't that easy especially when money is involved. It requires a lot of experience and even when you master this skill and learn how to maintain a poker face there will be always some unconscious actions that you can make which will expose you and an experienced opponent will easilly spot them and use them to read you..

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Just play randomly in terms of emotions and actions/gestures so that your opponent wont really be easily reading up on you in case you do have a bad or good card at hand.

Even just going plain will eventually be hard for someone to know on whats you up to.Dont get yourself too obvious if you do have a bad hand.Try to cover it up
and play smart because this is one of the most common gestures that you can see on a poker game.

I think in todays times most people are training for online poker. Having a fixed strategy for poker is a good idea if you play poker regularly and prefer to play multiple table at once. Once you start to play thousands of hands it is getting very important to ranges you play in similar way to find a profitable strategy in the long run. When playing offline poker it is best to wear a hoodie and sunglasses so we are giving away as little tells as possible.

You can really tell the difference when you do play online poker and on physical ones.When it comes to gestures and emotion of faces then you can eventually tell.

Im not really that much of comparing them or telling that they are just the same with those kind of factors.

Being unpredictable is one of your common goal on where dont let your opponent fool and make yourself fall into their hands.

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Playing online is the best way to become unpredictable, your gestures, your emotions, even the actions that you subliminally do that others can notice without you noticing it yourself, which can oftentimes give your cards away is pretty much not observable. So if you really want to, Online Poker is the way to go.
There is an interesting psychological trick that can be successfully applied in the game of poker. 

Its essence lies in the creation of subpersonalities and interaction with players from the position of subpersonalities.  This is not difficult if you have studied acting and know how to get used to the role according to Stanislavsky's method.  This will allow you to always be unpredictable.  It will be very difficult for your opponents to predict your actions. 

Also pay attention to the game Mafia.  The Mafia game is very popular in Ukraine and Russia. 

Mafia lovers are masters of bluffing, and poker players can learn a lot from them.
Basically bluffing, if you bluff every time, nobody will trust you and you'll be unpredictable as earthquakes. So I guess if you still want to play poker in a casino setting, then bluffing is the way to go.
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About playing poker, I remembered the cold-faced world poker player John Juanda from Indonesia and he is one of my favorite players and often see his style of playing on you tube.
The playing style of world poker players like John Juanda is indeed enviable because it is difficult to predict when playing because of his cold, calm but focused facial expressions and only smiles a little at the lyrics of other players.
and in a style that is very simple but can make it the king of world poker gamblers.
so if we play online, we have to play casually and not rush when adding bets and be able to set the time steadily and consistently when it is our turn to increase the bet and get used to it until it is close to the specified time.
and do it with full discipline like that regardless of whether the cards are good or not and that will make it difficult for your opponent to guess your game.

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Basically bluffing, if you bluff every time, nobody will trust you and you'll be unpredictable as earthquakes. So I guess if you still want to play poker in a casino setting, then bluffing is the way to go.
Yes, it can be applied if we play poker in the real casino when we can against the other player. But if we are playing poker online, that will hard to do as we do not see what they do at their table because we only see the card without seeing their face. That is why I do not know how to bluff them while playing online poker, but maybe if at that table, we can chat or talk directly to them, we can bluff them using the word.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
It depends, a good way to bluff is by using the cards themselves, if you want to become unpredictable with your bluffs you could choose a few cards at random before you play and if that is the first card that appears on your hand then you bluff no matter what, obviously some people will catch you when you bluff but that is the intention, the next time you raise with your good hand the rest of the table will not believe you and that is when you can get a lot of value out of your hand.

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Basically bluffing, if you bluff every time, nobody will trust you and you'll be unpredictable as earthquakes. So I guess if you still want to play poker in a casino setting, then bluffing is the way to go.
Yes, it can be applied if we play poker in the real casino when we can against the other player. But if we are playing poker online, that will hard to do as we do not see what they do at their table because we only see the card without seeing their face. That is why I do not know how to bluff them while playing online poker, but maybe if at that table, we can chat or talk directly to them, we can bluff them using the word.

I agree, over bluffing is huge problem expecially for new poker players. With online poker people tend to take a lot of notes. Every software has a note system that also includes colors. So if I get bluffed a few times by the same player I will change the color accordingly and eventually I am not going to trust him at all anymore. If you get labelled as playing to lose you run the risk of just getting called down with Ace or King High. I would be careful with bluffing too much.
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Basically bluffing, if you bluff every time, nobody will trust you and you'll be unpredictable as earthquakes. So I guess if you still want to play poker in a casino setting, then bluffing is the way to go.
Yes, it can be applied if we play poker in the real casino when we can against the other player. But if we are playing poker online, that will hard to do as we do not see what they do at their table because we only see the card without seeing their face. That is why I do not know how to bluff them while playing online poker, but maybe if at that table, we can chat or talk directly to them, we can bluff them using the word.

I agree, over bluffing is huge problem expecially for new poker players. With online poker people tend to take a lot of notes. Every software has a note system that also includes colors. So if I get bluffed a few times by the same player I will change the color accordingly and eventually I am not going to trust him at all anymore. If you get labelled as playing to lose you run the risk of just getting called down with Ace or King High. I would be careful with bluffing too much.
As I am not good at bluffing, I do not play too hard instead to play for fun, but the result is not good, as I do not understand too much about the poker game. If someone can bluff the other player in the real table, they can have a chance to win, but they must take a look at who the opponent is. Otherwise, they will lose their money many times. We do not have to force ourselves to stay playing poker if we already lose some money because that can make us forget to save the rest of our money.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
The game is all about bluff and show that you are having good pair like flush,straight even if you don't have them on your sides which is one of the main strategies of players playing poker.They never give hint about their cards and always keep on changing their strategies according to the cards and amount on the pot.For example sometimes if the pot value is higher and player have an Ace pair with him he can take risk of going All in at that time and most of the players are afraid of going All in at most cases.Risk taking is essential part of the game and this can lead you to high profits game.Try to catch the move of others whether they are increasing the pot amount or rather hitting check button with cards show on the table and you can judge what pair they are having with them.So there are many more techniques which you can apply in your game.

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March 21, 2021, 11:13:03 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
It depends, a good way to bluff is by using the cards themselves, if you want to become unpredictable with your bluffs you could choose a few cards at random before you play and if that is the first card that appears on your hand then you bluff no matter what, obviously some people will catch you when you bluff but that is the intention, the next time you raise with your good hand the rest of the table will not believe you and that is when you can get a lot of value out of your hand.

That's a good strategy that most of the time works, just like playing chess sending your officials being eaten for the best value attacks,.

You'll find yourself very buyable once you sell this strategy, losing your first bluff means that other gamblers inside the table will watch you out and unpredictedly try to catch you.

Once you have a good cards in hand surely you'll be paid decent with your next steps.

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March 21, 2021, 11:53:17 AM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

This may not be true. Your emotions and strategies could still be predictable even if you are playing online poker.

For me, you can be unpredictable if you don't stick to a single strategy. Please don't treat me as an expert in poker, of course. I am mostly just playing for fun and even with fun poker games with little bets, my hand would still uncontrollably shake.

Anyway, having only one approach will make your play very transparent. Try to shift from one approach to another and your opponent will keep on guessing. Being too methodical in poker would be to your disadvantage. Playing only premium hands, for example, will soon become apparent to your opponent and you may easily fall to weaker hands through a bluff.

Be focus yet try to do different strategies because wise players could also read your movements. Try to create unique movements from time to time so your opponent wouldn't predict your future moves. Just be playful, tricky, and have fun while playing because sometimes you could be more readable if you're too serious.
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March 21, 2021, 11:59:51 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
It depends, a good way to bluff is by using the cards themselves, if you want to become unpredictable with your bluffs you could choose a few cards at random before you play and if that is the first card that appears on your hand then you bluff no matter what, obviously some people will catch you when you bluff but that is the intention, the next time you raise with your good hand the rest of the table will not believe you and that is when you can get a lot of value out of your hand.

That's a good strategy that most of the time works, just like playing chess sending your officials being eaten for the best value attacks,.

You'll find yourself very buyable once you sell this strategy, losing your first bluff means that other gamblers inside the table will watch you out and unpredictedly try to catch you.

Once you have a good cards in hand surely you'll be paid decent with your next steps.

I didn't know that, I thought a failed bluff would not do good for you but with this strategy, it looks like you are making it as a bait so next time you can go all in and they call it, damn, that is so smart.

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March 21, 2021, 12:21:58 PM
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The game is all about bluff and show that you are having good pair like flush,straight even if you don't have them on your sides which is one of the main strategies of players playing poker.They never give hint about their cards and always keep on changing their strategies according to the cards and amount on the pot.For example sometimes if the pot value is higher and player have an Ace pair with him he can take risk of going All in at that time and most of the players are afraid of going All in at most cases.Risk taking is essential part of the game and this can lead you to high profits game.Try to catch the move of others whether they are increasing the pot amount or rather hitting check button with cards show on the table and you can judge what pair they are having with them.So there are many more techniques which you can apply in your game.

Not really. It's about statistical calculations mixed with intuition, since poker is a game of incomplete information. Bluffs only have to be made in a calculated way and at the lowest levels are not even worth making most of the time. Higher up it is worth it for balancing, as I explained before.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

That is why we have a word called poker face, it means you have no emotion at all and your opponent cannot figure out what you are thinking or if you are holding a good or bad card, I'm not a poker player, but being emotionless means you have to practice, with a deadpan face, you can do it with practice there is no other way but to practice a lot so you can become motionless, if you continuously practice, you can reach a level where you will have no emotion at all.   


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March 21, 2021, 02:48:33 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I highly suggest to change your play-style often or in every deal. The game of poker both involves luck and skill. Luck, in terms of the cards on the pool; and skill, as your observation and prediction skills will be put to the test.

What most people fail to acknowledge is that, whenever people try to predict or observe the movements of a specific person during the game, LUCK also plays a role in determining if your prediction is indeed right.

Like what I have previously mentioned, try to change your play-style every now and then. If a person tries to call your bluff, then take it as a sign that they are reading you.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
If you play online and ensure that you're playing with different people all the time, you don't have to worry about predictability. If you're playing with the same bunch of people, I think they'll eventually figure you out, but you'll also figure them out, so it's not that bad when it's mutual. Also, if you're behaving differently from time to time, other players won't know which move you're making in a certain case. For instance, you can often fold when you have a bad hand, but also bluff occasionally with it to spice things up. Or you can sometimes raise the stake when you have a good hand, but play it carefully at other times. This would make you unpredictable enough, I believe, but it won't guarantee being a good poker player because you not only have to conceal your situation, but figure out that of others as well.

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March 21, 2021, 04:20:33 PM
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But if we are playing poker online, that will hard to do as we do not see what they do at their table because we only see the card without seeing their face.
I beg to differ.
It's true that when playing online poker you can't see your opponent face but there are other tells that can help you read him. It's just a human behind that screen and not a machine, after all. The more you play against the same person the more predictable he becomes.

Here are some articles about techniques used to read opponens wen playing online:
https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/7-ways-to-get-better-reads-when-playing-online-poker-25407.htm
https://blog.pokercopilot.com/2018/03/read-your-opponent-in-online-poker

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This is difficult to do, your personality will eventually show as you play longer with your opponent and it is difficult to change your habit in an instant. Poker is difficult to play, and I think it requires great skills for a person to do what you are asking. Poker depends on strategy and just a pinch of luck, even a dump card can win with a good bluff.
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This is difficult to do, your personality will eventually show as you play longer with your opponent and it is difficult to change your habit in an instant. Poker is difficult to play, and I think it requires great skills for a person to do what you are asking. Poker depends on strategy and just a pinch of luck, even a dump card can win with a good bluff.
Those who are in good in bluffing can execute it without worries but eventually if they will just play with same set-of players they will just notice it and will not believe every time whenever you bluff, it will only be applicable in few games and set but not in long term so if already did, it will be better to play with new set or table if intended to do more of bluffing than a real mind strategy in playing.

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March 21, 2021, 06:09:17 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Don't play with emotions, facial expressions can be easy to read what's on your hand because of emotions. Just play confident that you are always having a good card, in that way, the opponent will be intimidated by what card you have. Poker is a mind game, learn to bluff the opponents and fool them with your strategy, you'll probably win even having a bad card.

Also, don't play similar people in the same lobby, they might easily read or predict you if you're playing with them a lot of games.

In online poker, it's not even a problem 'cause emotions can be easily hidden and it'll not bother you playing. You can focus now and play confidence, and eventually, you'll learn how to bluff.
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This is difficult to do, your personality will eventually show as you play longer with your opponent and it is difficult to change your habit in an instant. Poker is difficult to play, and I think it requires great skills for a person to do what you are asking. Poker depends on strategy and just a pinch of luck, even a dump card can win with a good bluff.
Those who are in good in bluffing can execute it without worries but eventually if they will just play with same set-of players they will just notice it and will not believe every time whenever you bluff, it will only be applicable in few games and set but not in long term so if already did, it will be better to play with new set or table if intended to do more of bluffing than a real mind strategy in playing.
Yeah, that might be good and effective but one thing to become a good player in poker is to master the bluffing skills. It may sound like easier than done but it's worth it, do try to become unpredictable almost all the time so that the other players will be confused for your next move.

Although, bluffing may be useful in early game since it is not effective in the long run if you keep playing with the same opponent. But there are other strategies too if you like the table that much and I found a link to better understand how to win somehow when playing poker.

https://upswingpoker.com/quick-poker-tips-texas-holdem/

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Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Simple, learn how to hide your emotion, be more unpredictable so you can maximize your profit if you have a good card. Sometimes you have to convince them that you are predictable in order for you to exploit them. Eventually you'll learn the right technique, but the most important thing is not only knowing the game but knowing your enemy.

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March 21, 2021, 10:11:16 PM
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This thread made me also think about how cool was to play poker with friends before the pandemic. I tried some platforms online but it is not the same thing, I am very much tired of this all-online world. We are losing touch with rest and I do not like it. How do you feel about it?
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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy. People look at you, analyze every gestures that you’ve made and by that they make moves. Being unpredictable in poker is a must, keep learning and keep practicing this one.
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But if we are playing poker online, that will hard to do as we do not see what they do at their table because we only see the card without seeing their face.
I beg to differ.
It's true that when playing online poker you can't see your opponent face but there are other tells that can help you read him. It's just a human behind that screen and not a machine, after all. The more you play against the same person the more predictable he becomes.

Here are some articles about techniques used to read opponens wen playing online:
https://www.pokernews.com/strategy/7-ways-to-get-better-reads-when-playing-online-poker-25407.htm
https://blog.pokercopilot.com/2018/03/read-your-opponent-in-online-poker
So we need to identify their moves to know how they play. If we play with the same player for some time and not always change to the other table, we can analyze or identify their play, but that will not easy if we move to the other table and meet many players. Even if we have the experience, reading their move is not easy, and I find it difficult to identify their moves. Maybe it is easy for you to detect their move, but other people will not have that chance.

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March 22, 2021, 04:11:33 AM
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Practice and experience, aside from bluffing you also need to learn how to observe your opponent's behavior and mannerism. Same as you want to be unpredictable, your opponent will do the same. Poker is one of the best card strategy games where you will not need to depend on pure luck since bluffing and intimidation can be applied. The longer you play with your opponent the more you learn how they play their cards.
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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy.
Well, at this time going to physical casinos is limited if not allowed. And that means that you cannot apply this strategy or you can have your own poker table at your house.

Hiding emotion can be done easy as if you do not care whatever your card is. You don't have to master it but it is much better of doing it naturally.

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Practice and experience, aside from bluffing you also need to learn how to observe your opponent's behavior and mannerism. Same as you want to be unpredictable, your opponent will do the same. Poker is one of the best card strategy games where you will not need to depend on pure luck since bluffing and intimidation can be applied. The longer you play with your opponent the more you learn how they play their cards.
Exactly, psychology, probability and strategy are some of the key components for the players to be good at gambling. In my experience, having a poker face works the best but if you can try and mix and match to make you unpredictable then it is advisable that you do it because it confuses your opponents but at the same time can be a pattern recognition for them so you have to switch up your patterns each round at best or from time to time, condition them to believe that is your pattern then pull the rug under them.

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March 22, 2021, 04:40:34 AM
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It is much better to play poker online just like most of the people here in this thread are saying because in that platform, they can't read your facial expression but only your actions.

So it is much easier to bluff there compared in an actual poker game which can pressure you so much and make you unfocused. Being predictable depends on your past actions and it will hardly affect your future action so planning is really required also based on your cards. But if you have the guts to bluff so much then it will just lose your strong hands as a poker player.

By that, you will end up losing so much opportunity and money while playing in that game.
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March 22, 2021, 10:10:29 AM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink

This may not be true. Your emotions and strategies could still be predictable even if you are playing online poker.

True, the only difference when you play online is that your facial expressions would not matter, but still the strategies that you use under certain circumstances can be tracked by the other player and if there's any pattern to it they might be able to predict your next move/s which is not ideal to say the least.

Just use different strategies and change your pattern on a regular basis and you will be as unpredictable as it gets but you can not remove that part totally from poker and no matter how hard you try, the opponent will be able to predict your next move at times, but just no as easily if you do that.

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It is much better to play poker online just like most of the people here in this thread are saying because in that platform, they can't read your facial expression but only your actions.

So it is much easier to bluff there compared in an actual poker game which can pressure you so much and make you unfocused. Being predictable depends on your past actions and it will hardly affect your future action so planning is really required also based on your cards. But if you have the guts to bluff so much then it will just lose your strong hands as a poker player.

By that, you will end up losing so much opportunity and money while playing in that game.
Also worth mentioning that with online poker, the only thing that you have to worry about is the pattern that you are showing to other players and recognizing their patterns too. If you know what you are doing you can use that sense of being a predictable person to condition others to think that you are going to do the same thing, the art of bluffing to me is to make it so sudden and not slow because your opponent will be pressured to do a move.

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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy.
Well, at this time going to physical casinos is limited if not allowed. And that means that you cannot apply this strategy or you can have your own poker table at your house.

Hiding emotion can be done easy as if you do not care whatever your card is. You don't have to master it but it is much better of doing it naturally.

Yes, that is right. Perhaps, we can invite our closest friends around our neighborhood to playing poker and remind the old time. We can use that moment to remember what we can in poker games while improving our skills in a poker game.

Perhaps, we can try to use a new trick that we learn from the internet in the poker game, so we can see if that trick can work or modify. Hiding emotion is not easy as it says, especially if we play with people who know who we are and how we play poker.
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March 22, 2021, 01:01:35 PM
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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy. People look at you, analyze every gestures that you’ve made and by that they make moves. Being unpredictable in poker is a must, keep learning and keep practicing this one.
It's quite easier now since many restrict going in nonessential establishments so playing can be done now thru online and live casinos. What good in it is that we can play better knowing there's no need to fake our facial expressions and we can think and play in advance, thou the downside is sometimes Internet connection is worse that we feel pressure when it happened.

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There will be risks for playing casino it is possible to reduce the risk if you can move forward by practicing the casino sites well in a risky society, it is normal to take risks at every moment and that is why it is reasonable to create risk demands.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I think there is and you can see it on those poker pro players maybe you could learn about them, watch their videos over and over again until you do, well, just a fair suggestion imo. It takes patience and experience I guess for not being predictable and you can't learn that even in a month or so.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

It is easy to let go those cards and that game in which you don't have confidence yourself instead of playing your oversmartness and losing more. You can use those funds that you put in the 'no-confidence' game being chipped into another game and may it can be a win, you will recover the previous loss. I always do like that because bluffing is not my style.
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink
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Being cold face to the other player can be a solution, and do not change your gesture, and not think much
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Even on-line they can see if you have a pattern, and the problem is that sometimes you are not conscious of your own patterns and you own body reactions to your cards and other's moves. I believe serious players do look carefully into these things. So a "poker face" can be good, wearing sunglasses as well but apart from training, is there anything else out there?

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Even on-line they can see if you have a pattern, and the problem is that sometimes you are not conscious of your own patterns and you own body reactions to your cards and other's moves. I believe serious players do look carefully into these things. So a "poker face" can be good, wearing sunglasses as well but apart from training, is there anything else out there?
Well if you can try and think about something else when you're not exactly in the need to strategize, that could be one. Like, after putting out the first cards, determine what you need to do then just think of what's for dinner later on. Kinda hard tbh, especially when you're concentrating on the game. There's also the strategy of just smiling though, it's more similar to practice than the training I guess? Like keeping up your smile at all times is the kind of practice I'd say you'd need. Careful not to strain your facial muscles from smiling too much though.

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March 23, 2021, 05:07:18 AM
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So a "poker face" can be good,
I remembered when watched a casino royale movie, Le Chiffre showed as a very cool gambler and no emotion showing on his face. because of that trick, he won money from James bond in the first round.

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So a "poker face" can be good,
I remembered when watched a casino royale movie, Le Chiffre showed as a very cool gambler and no emotion showing on his face. because of that trick, he won money from James bond in the first round.

And in the end a straight flush beat 2nd nut boat vs middle boat vs nut flush  Smiley .

In other words, just a movie.
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Being cold face to the other player can be a solution, and do not change your gesture, and not think much
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Even on-line they can see if you have a pattern, and the problem is that sometimes you are not conscious of your own patterns and you own body reactions to your cards and other's moves. I believe serious players do look carefully into these things. So a "poker face" can be good, wearing sunglasses as well but apart from training, is there anything else out there?

If they can watch our pattern from the beginning, they can know how we play. That is why we can move from one table to the other table, so we do not meet the same player who can recognize our play and beat us. Perhaps, besides using a serious face, we can also use a ridiculous face that might help us hide our cards. Changing the pattern on the same table can also help us, but high skills, knowing when to bluff them, acting as naturally as we can, can be the other part to bluff the opponent player.
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It is much better to play poker online just like most of the people here in this thread are saying because in that platform, they can't read your facial expression but only your actions.

So it is much easier to bluff there compared in an actual poker game which can pressure you so much and make you unfocused. Being predictable depends on your past actions and it will hardly affect your future action so planning is really required also based on your cards. But if you have the guts to bluff so much then it will just lose your strong hands as a poker player.

By that, you will end up losing so much opportunity and money while playing in that game.
Also worth mentioning that with online poker, the only thing that you have to worry about is the pattern that you are showing to other players and recognizing their patterns too. If you know what you are doing you can use that sense of being a predictable person to condition others to think that you are going to do the same thing, the art of bluffing to me is to make it so sudden and not slow because your opponent will be pressured to do a move.
I think that is not as easy as you may imagine, that is quite difficult actually. When I first started I had a simple strategy, fold whenever I have a bad hand, and call when I think I have a good hand, and raise when I think I have a "near unbeatable hand". You know what happened?

I ended up losing all my money  to blinds. I ended up paying small blind and big blind and that slowly decreased my coin count, whereas I was actually trying to just wait for my turn to win, and whenever I had a good hand, people knew that I do not get in when I do not have something good so they folded and that is why I only won the blinds in that, so many games lost the blind and few games won the blind.

Last draw was when I got in with a good hand, I had double aces, but someone got full-house so he won and I was out of the game, didn't had much left anyway so that strategy didn't work. Now I look back on it and know how bad it was, but that is why online means you need to know the game a lot better.

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Play on the merit of your cards rather than depending upon others. I do play if thinking how much chances are my cards very strong, not necessary when other is playing big, means having strong cards, just could be bluff or taking a risk that others may not have cards, and if you are lucky your lower cards to bring good money for you or good cards too can lose if someone opposite just have a better cards.

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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy. People look at you, analyze every gestures that you’ve made and by that they make moves. Being unpredictable in poker is a must, keep learning and keep practicing this one.

Actually bluffing is a very hard thing to do when you're in a physical casino, especially if you're a newbie in poker and you don't even know who your opponents are. So practicing it is only good with small bets, more of like trial and error thing. Bluff is all about emotions of losing vs. the emotion of winning, so whoever weigh more wins of course, obviously. For me, whenever I play poker with my cousins without any bets, the greatest way I do to bluff is just simply making it looks like I'm not interested in a game and not looking at their hands every single time.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Send mix signals.
This behavior let's you have good clue on the opposite player's emotions, therefore, behaving in a mixed manner while controlling your emotion gives you a good stand of winning, I don't know any other strategy but that's the most considered factor when playing poker game.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
there's no way they can read your mind and see your expression while playing mate,, cause you're just playing online.. Perhaps they can read every moves you made, or maybe your strategy is very obvious such beginners , reason they're already know what your next steps.. Actually mate there's no techniques or any stuff that can help you to win on this gambling... Because its about skills nowadays and mindset.. So if you don't have that you're a loser.. Better to practice your skills more and never ever rely on your luckcharm because sometimes it didn't work on this kind of games..  Or i suggest to watch some video online if you want to obtain more idea regarding to your question.. Maybe can help  because in fact nowadays there are some gamblers sharing ideas all around the Internet..
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Send mix signals.
This behavior let's you have good clue on the opposite player's emotions, therefore, behaving in a mixed manner while controlling your emotion gives you a good stand of winning, I don't know any other strategy but that's the most considered factor when playing poker game.
Nice advise , this will make them unlearned about your behavior and attitude , distracting their capabilities to read you as opponent .

I tried doing this in Real gambling but since most of my opponents are already my previous gambling mate , they are already knowledgeable of my actions lol.









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March 23, 2021, 09:32:31 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
there's no way they can read your mind and see your expression while playing mate,, cause you're just playing online.. Perhaps they can read every moves you made, or maybe your strategy is very obvious such beginners , reason they're already know what your next steps.. Actually mate there's no techniques or any stuff that can help you to win on this gambling... Because its about skills nowadays and mindset.. So if you don't have that you're a loser.. Better to practice your skills more and never ever rely on your luckcharm because sometimes it didn't work on this kind of games..  Or i suggest to watch some video online if you want to obtain more idea regarding to your question.. Maybe can help  because in fact nowadays there are some gamblers sharing ideas all around the Internet..

I think it is much easier to give away tells when playing online then when playing offline. To problem is that the more you play you tend to meet a lot of regulars in poker. So taking notes on other players becomes very important. Especially now during quarantine there was a huge boost to online poker. When I see players once or twice I just tend to color code them after seeing some action, if I play regularly against them I take actual notes. Because of this I called a few times a raise which I normally wouldn't have, but since the played loose in the past, I just called them down and won a few good pots like this.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Send mix signals.
This behavior let's you have good clue on the opposite player's emotions, therefore, behaving in a mixed manner while controlling your emotion gives you a good stand of winning, I don't know any other strategy but that's the most considered factor when playing poker game.
Sometimes, that can confuse us to use mixed signals if we are not well trained in changing our behavior in the poker game. It can make them know if we are just bluff, especially if we meet the pro poker player. They can easily know if someone is not playing tricks or always change the bluff. We can use that strategy, but we need to be very careful to apply that because we do not know if they are a pro poker player or a new player in the poker game.

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March 23, 2021, 12:38:29 PM
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I think it is much easier to give away tells when playing online then when playing offline.

That surprises me. Actually I think it's the other way around and I haven't found people who say what you say. Online you can also see tells, but at the end of the day you play with a screen. Live you see the person, their face, their body, their moves, how they pick up cards and chips. For me it is clear that it is easier to see tells when playing in land-based casinos.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I agree with some of the suggestions where you could just play online to avoid people reading or predict your trick or your bluff. In some games, if you do the same move over and over again that is where you will become predictable to other players. Mostly your opponent is already expecting that since that is what you do most of the time or in that situation so the best thing to do most of the time is just constantly changing your strategy to avoid being predicted by your opponent. I guess a lot of players are just good at reading people because when it comes to a big amount of money it's difficult to hide your emotions. Maybe the trick is just to accept that you already lose so that opponent cannot read your move.
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I think it is much easier to give away tells when playing online then when playing offline.

That surprises me. Actually I think it's the other way around and I haven't found people who say what you say. Online you can also see tells, but at the end of the day you play with a screen. Live you see the person, their face, their body, their moves, how they pick up cards and chips. For me it is clear that it is easier to see tells when playing in land-based casinos.

Some casinos conduct live tournaments as well where you can see who are your opponents but in general you are better unpredictable with online poker and the opponents can only guess your hands are good or bad with the money you are raising!









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March 23, 2021, 05:19:24 PM
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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy.
Well, at this time going to physical casinos is limited if not allowed. And that means that you cannot apply this strategy or you can have your own poker table at your house.

Hiding emotion can be done easy as if you do not care whatever your card is. You don't have to master it but it is much better of doing it naturally.

Yes, that is right. Perhaps, we can invite our closest friends around our neighborhood to playing poker and remind the old time. We can use that moment to remember what we can in poker games while improving our skills in a poker game.

Perhaps, we can try to use a new trick that we learn from the internet in the poker game, so we can see if that trick can work or modify. Hiding emotion is not easy as it says, especially if we play with people who know who we are and how we play poker.
That's applicable for those countries that don't have much cases these days.

They can practice that if the casinos or real life poker tables are still restricted to operate because of the situation that we're dealing with. And doing that through online tables, no one can read your emotion on it.

Which is easier.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I will say just play and play until you come out with an idea about that. It's not that only us who are looking for tricks too but our opponents as well.

If we really like to play a certain card game, we can form card strategies by ourselves including what will be our body actions.

For example in Chinese Poker, there are several times where my 3-4 pairs combination can beat a much better card.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

In a physical poker game or online?
It's never easy to act like your opponent won't read you, not unless If you're consistent with your emotions, facial reactions, and how much you raise your bets even with good and bad cards.
In an online poker, your opponent could also read you especially when you're not careful with how you raise your bets everytime you have a good hands. Also, you need to bluff from time to time to confuse your opponent.

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March 23, 2021, 10:43:45 PM
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Also, you need to bluff from time to time to confuse your opponent.

Simple as it says but it's not that easy to do.

For experienced poker players, these guys already know how to deal with bluffs and they already have a set of approaches in a different situation. In online poker, players rely purely on their skills and not on bluffs.

OP should not just rely on this bluff method but learn how to utilize his card. There are lots of sequences wherein bad cards still won and that's what I mentioned here before, just build experience and soon in the long-run, OP will now be used on using any strategies.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No tricks. Even with how good we are in bluff, there are people that don't buy it.

The best strategy would be, explore all ways to become a good handler of any cards set. Something that we can able to think quickly the best actions and decisions regardless of any card combination on our hand. Bluff now will just be an optional strategy.
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Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy.
Well, at this time going to physical casinos is limited if not allowed. And that means that you cannot apply this strategy or you can have your own poker table at your house.

Hiding emotion can be done easy as if you do not care whatever your card is. You don't have to master it but it is much better of doing it naturally.

Yes, that is right. Perhaps, we can invite our closest friends around our neighborhood to playing poker and remind the old time. We can use that moment to remember what we can in poker games while improving our skills in a poker game.

Perhaps, we can try to use a new trick that we learn from the internet in the poker game, so we can see if that trick can work or modify. Hiding emotion is not easy as it says, especially if we play with people who know who we are and how we play poker.
That's applicable for those countries that don't have much cases these days.

They can practice that if the casinos or real life poker tables are still restricted to operate because of the situation that we're dealing with. And doing that through online tables, no one can read your emotion on it.

Which is easier.

Perhaps, it is easier to deal with online casinos than offline casinos. I mean, when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

But with the situations at the moment, if the offline casinos already reopen again, it still not easy to know how to trick the other player as I am sure that when they meet at the poker table, every player will wear a face mask. It will not be easy to know how their face because face recognition will help the pro poker player know if the other player tricks them.
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when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

Thinking of poker... it's certainly true that playing online enables you to hide emotions etc much more easily, but it's still possible to read people online based on their behaviour in previous hands. Persistent bluffers can be easy to spot, as can overly cautious players who only ever raise with a great hand. The longer a game goes on, the more obvious patterns of play emerge.

Playing unpredictably is a solid strategy, because if you are predictable, whether in online games or not, you'll lose.






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March 24, 2021, 12:31:30 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you don't want to get caught play online, so even if you are laughing or grinning they will not know that, if you want to do it live and face to face you have to practice making a poker face, that is with no emotion at all, it's not easy because you will have to concentrate concealing your emotion, it can be done but it will take time, maybe a month or two.

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March 24, 2021, 12:43:41 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you don't want to get caught play online, so even if you are laughing or grinning they will not know that, if you want to do it live and face to face you have to practice making a poker face, that is with no emotion at all, it's not easy because you will have to concentrate concealing your emotion, it can be done but it will take time, maybe a month or two.

Establishing your emotions during live games is difficult, it's continuous practice and you have to focus each time you play. There are good gamblers who hid what inside them, characteristics that become an advantage from each gambler who plays this type of strategy games..

Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.

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March 24, 2021, 12:51:02 PM
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Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.

I have always preferred online casinos over physical casinos. Because when I gamble with friends, when I lose a bet, I get desperate to win money. I also gamble more to protect my self-esteem, and lose a lot more money. But when I gamble online, I can easily control myself even if I lose the bet.

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March 24, 2021, 12:51:40 PM
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Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.


We should also be careful when playing online to not be too predictable. Emotions are a big deal in online and offline gambling. For example, going all in too much can be a sign of over bluffing or just being on tilt. So when I see a short stack player going all on out of position I am more inclined to call than if he has a large stack.
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March 25, 2021, 04:04:32 AM
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when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

Thinking of poker... it's certainly true that playing online enables you to hide emotions etc much more easily, but it's still possible to read people online based on their behaviour in previous hands. Persistent bluffers can be easy to spot, as can overly cautious players who only ever raise with a great hand. The longer a game goes on, the more obvious patterns of play emerge.

Playing unpredictably is a solid strategy, because if you are predictable, whether in online games or not, you'll lose.

If we always change our playing or habit, and we are moving from one table to the other table, that might increase our chance to win, especially if we have skills in poker. Perhaps, we can stay at one table for some rounds, let say for 3 or so rounds, and then move to the other table.

Perhaps, that can give us more chances to win because we can meet many players from different tables, and we can learn how they play. But I admitted that playing unpredictably is a good strategy, as you say, because we can hide our emotions and card, and that can help us to bluff the other player. But I do not know that since I am not a pro poker player or do not too often play poker games.
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March 25, 2021, 05:07:12 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
It depends, a good way to bluff is by using the cards themselves, if you want to become unpredictable with your bluffs you could choose a few cards at random before you play and if that is the first card that appears on your hand then you bluff no matter what, obviously some people will catch you when you bluff but that is the intention, the next time you raise with your good hand the rest of the table will not believe you and that is when you can get a lot of value out of your hand.

That's a good strategy that most of the time works, just like playing chess sending your officials being eaten for the best value attacks,.

You'll find yourself very buyable once you sell this strategy, losing your first bluff means that other gamblers inside the table will watch you out and unpredictedly try to catch you.

Once you have a good cards in hand surely you'll be paid decent with your next steps.

I didn't know that, I thought a failed bluff would not do good for you but with this strategy, it looks like you are making it as a bait so next time you can go all in and they call it, damn, that is so smart.
Poker is a game of information, you can use selective revelations about your strategy to soften up your opponent to believe you will do something when in fact you are doing the exact opposite, once your bluff has failed you need to make use of it somehow and this is the perfect way to do it, that way if during the next few hands you receive something good you can play your hand similarly and the rest of the table will think that you are in fact bluffing again since you are repeating the same pattern only to find out this is not the case, but at that point it will be too late for them.

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March 26, 2021, 10:39:55 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Mostly, if people don't want to be easy to read they doing a lot of stupid moves, and finally lost. For example they trying to bluff and they don't know hot to bluff (for example limp on preflop and check on flop and then trying to bluff on turn and river) or doing moves out of their main strategy.

There is only way to not to do stupid moves and to not to be predictable is have a wide range of hands with which you're playing. Try not to limp too much also. This is fish move, so if players on table will know that you're fish, your moves will be more predictable.

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March 26, 2021, 10:53:55 PM
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
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March 26, 2021, 11:10:10 PM
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
Maybe they can help but that was different when you are in the actual scenario. Because the truth is that, it is really hard to follow into others (as what is written in the books and said in tuts). We can no longer remember those strategies especially when we are fully affected by our emotions but to project what we feel inside like changing our gestures and the way we smile.
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March 26, 2021, 11:22:49 PM
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
Maybe they can help but that was different when you are in the actual scenario. Because the truth is that, it is really hard to follow into others (as what is written in the books and said in tuts). We can no longer remember those strategies especially when we are fully affected by our emotions but to project what we feel inside like changing our gestures and the way we smile.
This do mostly talks with emotion handling and if you do fail to do so then most of strategies that we are tending to follow or make will likely to fail due to this factor.
Being unpredictable is one of the most important thing when you do play with card games like poker and others where gestures and emotion show off would really be
a thing that can either be useful on your part at the same time it could really be a cause for yourself to be easily read up by your opponents.
Experience is one of the thing will really wipe these kind of flaws on oneself into his own gambling activities.

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March 30, 2021, 06:54:36 PM
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
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March 30, 2021, 09:38:47 PM
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I like poker tournaments with multiple players - your table gets changed about 2-3 times per game and you end up with new people, who know nothing about your techniques. However, there's the opposite side of the coin. Whenever you crack someone and finally get how to win with them - everything changes and you need to start over.

Also, it won't work if you keep playing on the same website, because the players are mostly the same and eventually everyone will know everyone...

Even if you constantly change your game techniques, still there are some basic qualities you possess and it is basically inevitable for people to learn how to read you if you play very often.

Sometimes when there is an important move and a lot is at stake I just ask a random person (a friend, family member, or whoever is near) to make the move for me, because I know that my behavior will be predictable no matter how hard I try. That helped me to win big a couple of times.
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.
Would really be hard to play up if you do really look for some gesture hints then that would really be a pain in the ass when you cant see anything something on your opponent.

with this kind of card games where these kind of movements could neither be helpful on your part if its against on your opponent but also a disadvantage if you are the one who do
give out some hints into your opponent too.

For now where we cant still fully access on physical gambling sites then these gesture thing isnt really that relevant on online gambling.

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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

imo there'll still be a difference on playing online and irl because even if you can't see the whole face because of a mask or glasses there are still many other micro-movements that can be observed, you know? like the velocity of hands, the dillatation of eyes (if they have no glasses), how they look, how they speak, how they breath... being in the physical presence of someone totally changes the game.

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March 31, 2021, 07:47:59 PM
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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly,  this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.
Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.
Would really be hard to play up if you do really look for some gesture hints then that would really be a pain in the ass when you cant see anything something on your opponent.

with this kind of card games where these kind of movements could neither be helpful on your part if its against on your opponent but also a disadvantage if you are the one who do
give out some hints into your opponent too.

For now where we cant still fully access on physical gambling sites then these gesture thing isnt really that relevant on online gambling.
Wearing masks during a game could create new hints and giving the new environment of the table (with barriers and other protective materials on the table) this could potentially use by those gamblers as a bluff. I don't know what kind of new tricks and bluff will the gamblers use but it will be different especially on big pot poker tables. As of now, there aren't many things that a gambler can do about his environment, They will certainly going to adjust what the new normal is.
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I think best way to play card games similar to Poker is to hide your emotions totally. Your face should be seen blank to other players, your eyes should look so dull. Your body movements should be meaningless. You shouldn't show your nervous feelings to cheat them to play bad.
We can use it in the Poker game in the offline casino, but if we play Poker game online, I do not think it can be applied as we only see the cards move without knowing how their reaction. Maybe they can detect our moves from what we always did before, and that can be their clue to know if we have good or bad cards. It is easy to hide emotions in the online Poker game as we do not show our emotions.

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April 01, 2021, 06:04:27 PM
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I think best way to play card games similar to Poker is to hide your emotions totally. Your face should be seen blank to other players, your eyes should look so dull. Your body movements should be meaningless. You shouldn't show your nervous feelings to cheat them to play bad.
We can use it in the Poker game in the offline casino, but if we play Poker game online, I do not think it can be applied as we only see the cards move without knowing how their reaction. Maybe they can detect our moves from what we always did before, and that can be their clue to know if we have good or bad cards. It is easy to hide emotions in the online Poker game as we do not show our emotions.
Therefore, online poker games will be more difficult if we are still based on an emotion, but online poker is an alternative for players who cannot hide their emotions when playing in offline casinos. At least there are advantages and disadvantages in these two different places, but I think every game will definitely be difficult to win because what must be considered in this game is courage or mentality so that it is not easily provoked by bluff.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Been unpredictable is really a certainty but you have to develop a strategy for yourselve. Getting to know how others remain unpredictable might not work for your own pattern of gaming. Poker games requires personal unpredictable formats developed by the gamer over time. Most of this strategies are quite simple but are even more technical than sophisticated patterns
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April 01, 2021, 10:18:09 PM
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I think best way to play card games similar to Poker is to hide your emotions totally.
But you can't hide that when you're over the internet but yeah when you're with face to face table, you have to hide it.
Your face should be seen blank to other players, your eyes should look so dull. Your body movements should be meaningless. You shouldn't show your nervous feelings to cheat them to play bad.
You don't have to be bold like that, you just have to hide it as if you're not noticing them and don't look them in the eyes or be an observant too.

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April 01, 2021, 11:27:59 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Been unpredictable is really a certainty but you have to develop a strategy for yourselve. Getting to know how others remain unpredictable might not work for your own pattern of gaming. Poker games requires personal unpredictable formats developed by the gamer over time. Most of this strategies are quite simple but are even more technical than sophisticated patterns
Having the right attitude while playing poker in the table can really help you earn money, and this is not easy to practice because first you have to be good in Poker and second, you must have to practice this one during the live session.

Being unpredictable depends on every gamblers technique, some are just disguising as a newbie and some are just playing seriously, I personally played poker and just a typical silent player, I’m not sure if its effective or not but I’m always ready every time I play poker.

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April 01, 2021, 11:33:13 PM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink
This is probably this best way to go about this, your emotions is completely immune to the instructor or robot until you make you actually choose a side to your game plan.
Meanwhile, in the case of gambling at the club House or casino, it isn't easy to be random on your emotions as there would always come a point where your anxiety or over excitement would always take over. Its just what it is and some people are just good at observing and reading people because, its part of the game. You've got to take advantage of every discovered weakness worst of all if you show any.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

I think the basic thing for this matter that the only way for this is you know how to read your opponents characteristics.
So, if you don't know the trick and technique surely your co-players can controls your way and there's no chance for you to win and
to defeat them too. And besides, this will remain unpredictable as well.
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April 02, 2021, 09:43:35 AM
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I think best way to play card games similar to Poker is to hide your emotions totally. Your face should be seen blank to other players, your eyes should look so dull. Your body movements should be meaningless. You shouldn't show your nervous feelings to cheat them to play bad.
We can use it in the Poker game in the offline casino, but if we play Poker game online, I do not think it can be applied as we only see the cards move without knowing how their reaction. Maybe they can detect our moves from what we always did before, and that can be their clue to know if we have good or bad cards. It is easy to hide emotions in the online Poker game as we do not show our emotions.
Therefore, online poker games will be more difficult if we are still based on an emotion, but online poker is an alternative for players who cannot hide their emotions when playing in offline casinos. At least there are advantages and disadvantages in these two different places, but I think every game will definitely be difficult to win because what must be considered in this game is courage or mentality so that it is not easily provoked by bluff.
It is very difficult to manage emotions, especially if the gambling games need to have psychology to arrange the strategy or other things. Even if we play online poker games, that does not mean we can easily control the emotion because that will need more patience. But yes, the opponent will not see if our emotion will become bigger or stay calm down in the games, but maybe they can feel it. Poker game needs to have patience, stay calm, and have a good strategy to win which is not easy to learn.

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April 02, 2021, 10:40:38 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Bluffing is the one common strategy in a poker game. But I think this is not applicable to the online game, because you were not able to see the face of your opponents for bluffing.

There are no techniques or tricks on bluffing, I saw it in different movies playing a poker game and even in a real casino. They were simply acting relax so that the opponent will not read their mind through their reaction to faces. Bluffing still unpredictable in poker, you can also pretend any possibility that your bluff will never be failed, if you have the flush card, that's a great time to bluff and will I guess possibly they will be scared.

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April 02, 2021, 11:13:14 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Bluffing is the one common strategy in a poker game. But I think this is not applicable to the online game, because you were not able to see the face of your opponents for bluffing.

There are no techniques or tricks on bluffing, I saw it in different movies playing a poker game and even in a real casino. They were simply acting relax so that the opponent will not read their mind through their reaction to faces. Bluffing still unpredictable in poker, you can also pretend any possibility that your bluff will never be failed, if you have the flush card, that's a great time to bluff and will I guess possibly they will be scared.

It does only apply on the facial expression, you can still do the bluff even if you are playing online and it might be effective or not. I'm not a fan of online poker but I know it's possible since I played some online poker game witohut money involve, just a pure game.

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April 02, 2021, 10:20:45 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Does it mean offline poker betting?
Well, if it is about it, I think it is about emotional control. Some professional gamblers will have good emotional controls where the facial expression, body language, and also how they look are not predictable. Some people just play flat without noticed being happy or sad. So, it means that if you are ready to bet, it is better also to be ready in emotional control. Without it, we cannot control our emotions and we may have certain expressions that lead others to think or interpret something.


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April 02, 2021, 11:14:02 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Does it mean offline poker betting?
Well, if it is about it, I think it is about emotional control. Some professional gamblers will have good emotional controls where the facial expression, body language, and also how they look are not predictable. Some people just play flat without noticed being happy or sad. So, it means that if you are ready to bet, it is better also to be ready in emotional control. Without it, we cannot control our emotions and we may have certain expressions that lead others to think or interpret something.


One of the things i do like when you do play physically where you can really have that actual interactions between other players which you can really read up those kind of emotions that they might
displayed on but not all the times that would be precise because there are people who are just good when it comes to pretending and that what makes this situation harder.
For poker then experience will a the only thing will put you in advantage but being unpredictable thinking on online poker isnt really that something can be applied.

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April 03, 2021, 11:08:03 AM
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Playing a poker face is the basic way to act unreadable in the game poker even though you have a good card you won't show your emotions instead act as if you will lose. Just playing mind games with your opponents will make them bait your bluff. In the end if you don't want this kind hastle play online so you don't have to worry about your facial expressions.

it will not be called poker face for no reason but this term became popular because it was the basic strat use by poker players but afaik poker face is a neutral reaction , if you will act as is you loose your oponnent will think that your feeling the opposite so i dont recomend that .

You don't have to worry about your facial expressions while you play online poker, but like in "online things" there are other things you are watching for! You watch players and how they play their hands when they push big or when they are passive... you use your rise button to test others and to see their reactions (more hands you include in your observation, more accurate will be)...

What is unpredictable in poker?! When you rise all-in before the flop? After 20 folded hands? Or when you just call/fold and after some time you start raising every hand?

In my experience (and I think I have experience playing poker live & online), we play poker with our two cards (texas holdem, probably the most played poker version), and if you play long enough you will run to all sort of hands... learning how to avoid bad hands, and how to play your winning hands is not exact since, everything depends on so many things: tournament/cash, 2/4/6/8/9 players on the table, current stack, where is the dealer...You need to adjust your play by all these factors, and as your cards are different every hand, every table will be different even more!

Nobody wins all the time in gambling, there are just people with a higher winning/profit rate...

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April 03, 2021, 11:12:40 AM
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Playing a poker face is the basic way to act unreadable in the game poker even though you have a good card you won't show your emotions instead act as if you will lose. Just playing mind games with your opponents will make them bait your bluff. In the end if you don't want this kind hastle play online so you don't have to worry about your facial expressions.

it will not be called poker face for no reason but this term became popular because it was the basic strat use by poker players but afaik poker face is a neutral reaction , if you will act as is you loose your oponnent will think that your feeling the opposite so i dont recomend that .

A poker face is very hard to keep up for hours and hours of playing. There are quite a few people on the table who observe any expression of your face and even look at your throat how heavily you are breathing.  When playing serious for money I would recommend to wear sunglasses, a hoodie and. a scarf. This makes sure that other people can't read you that easily. Being unpredictable also helps, as long as you are playing good poker.
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April 03, 2021, 11:23:41 AM
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Playing a poker face is the basic way to act unreadable in the game poker even though you have a good card you won't show your emotions instead act as if you will lose. Just playing mind games with your opponents will make them bait your bluff. In the end if you don't want this kind hastle play online so you don't have to worry about your facial expressions.

Yes, but that's not easy and the bluffing doesn't end on that, it's much complicated than you think. Bluffing is all about reading and analyzing your opponents card, and then the bluff comes after that, I meant, you can't bluff totally if you only know your card but not your opponents cards, what's the point right?

Based on the gambling movies that I've watched, there was a girl gambler who's face is all serious because she knows what's his opponent card is, that's why her bluffing is effective. I've searched it on how to do it and all you have to do is to know arithmetically the number of cards and the patterns of it once it get shuffled and distribute. It's not easy, it's not always accurate, but I think it's worth to try than to bluff without any basis.
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Playing a poker face is the basic way to act unreadable in the game poker even though you have a good card you won't show your emotions instead act as if you will lose. Just playing mind games with your opponents will make them bait your bluff. In the end if you don't want this kind hastle play online so you don't have to worry about your facial expressions.

it will not be called poker face for no reason but this term became popular because it was the basic strat use by poker players but afaik poker face is a neutral reaction , if you will act as is you loose your oponnent will think that your feeling the opposite so i dont recomend that .

A poker face is very hard to keep up for hours and hours of playing. There are quite a few people on the table who observe any expression of your face and even look at your throat how heavily you are breathing.  When playing serious for money I would recommend to wear sunglasses, a hoodie and. a scarf. This makes sure that other people can't read you that easily. Being unpredictable also helps, as long as you are playing good poker.
Maybe we can use poker face in a limited time, so we do not have to feel tormented using that.
But for a pro poker player will figure out the other way to give a trick to their opponent, so the opponent will not know if they have a good card.
Using those things can help us be undetected by the opponent, but we should be aware of the rules because sometimes, the casino can use that rule.
But it is hard to be unpredictable in a poker game as we can meet the pro poker player, which is not easy to trick them.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I am playing poker for several years in the underground casinos and in live casinos in which there is called poker face in which you must not have any reaction on what so ever your card is because it will helps them to easily read you for every turns that you are not having a poker face. Whenever I am playing, I am always wearing a mask and a cap in order to hide my emotions by not allowing them to see my whole face and becomes unknown for every turns that is happening. There's a lot of good poker players out there and by just watching them you will be able to adapt some of their strategies.



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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Been unpredictable is really a certainty but you have to develop a strategy for yourselve. Getting to know how others remain unpredictable might not work for your own pattern of gaming. Poker games requires personal unpredictable formats developed by the gamer over time. Most of this strategies are quite simple but are even more technical than sophisticated patterns
Having the right attitude while playing poker in the table can really help you earn money, and this is not easy to practice because first you have to be good in Poker and second, you must have to practice this one during the live session.

Being unpredictable depends on every gamblers technique, some are just disguising as a newbie and some are just playing seriously, I personally played poker and just a typical silent player, I’m not sure if its effective or not but I’m always ready every time I play poker.

just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.

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April 04, 2021, 01:52:12 AM
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just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.
I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.

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April 04, 2021, 02:19:01 AM
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just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.

I am not a person who likes theater activities, although it is very good for training us to hide our emotions. But I will not do it, maybe I prefer to
train alone in front of the mirror. Many articles and videos have helped me how to practice hiding our expressions, and I have been practicing
in front of the mirror for several days. And it was not easy, there were many techniques that had to be learned. It takes patience to be able to
control our emotions and our bodies.

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This is difficult to do and from my experience, those people that with extraordinary ability to control their emotions can only do this and often times they treat gambling as their career. If in a normal situation or other type of gambling games we can't control our emotion then being unpredicatable in poker is really impossible. Each of us has a 1 or 2 particular strategy that we follow in gambling, if we stick to that then in the long run our opponent will get used to it. To be unpredictable is to use different types of strategy as well as learning to be emotionless in different situations.
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April 04, 2021, 05:31:18 AM
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Playing a poker face is the basic way to act unreadable in the game poker even though you have a good card you won't show your emotions instead act as if you will lose. Just playing mind games with your opponents will make them bait your bluff. In the end if you don't want this kind hastle play online so you don't have to worry about your facial expressions.
It is not the Poker face is what you need but to Fold your emotion and never let anyone find it there.
But like one Poster , Yeah it won't be called as Pokerface if it is not adopted in that Game and strategy.
This is difficult to do and from my experience, those people that with extraordinary ability to control their emotions can only do this and often times they treat gambling as their career. If in a normal situation or other type of gambling games we can't control our emotion then being unpredicatable in poker is really impossible. Each of us has a 1 or 2 particular strategy that we follow in gambling, if we stick to that then in the long run our opponent will get used to it. To be unpredictable is to use different types of strategy as well as learning to be emotionless in different situations.
It does not need Extraordinary skill to do this mate, Instead all you need is to Maintain your emotion why Playing .
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Maybe we can use poker face in a limited time, so we do not have to feel tormented using that.
But for a pro poker player will figure out the other way to give a trick to their opponent, so the opponent will not know if they have a good card.
Using those things can help us be undetected by the opponent, but we should be aware of the rules because sometimes, the casino can use that rule.
But it is hard to be unpredictable in a poker game as we can meet the pro poker player, which is not easy to trick them.


Yeah if the tournament is being broadcasted on TV then it is very unlikely that you can fully cover your face. It will always be a tradeoff between entertainment for TV purposes and playing the best and most unpredictable poker we can do. The problem when our cards are being broadcasted is that all other players can watch the feed 30 minutes later and see if we were bluffing or not. This changes a lot for us because we aren't so unpredictable anymore. Since the pandemic a lot of more online tournaments are being broadcasted aswell, which takes away a big part of our strategy in poker to remain unpredictable.
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A poker face is very hard to keep up for hours and hours of playing.
Just show no emotion if you're going to do that. People who have been in that game and managed to get to show no emotion, they know how to do it and can sit for a long time without showing what they feel.
There are quite a few people on the table who observe any expression of your face and even look at your throat how heavily you are breathing.  When playing serious for money I would recommend to wear sunglasses, a hoodie and. a scarf. This makes sure that other people can't read you that easily. Being unpredictable also helps, as long as you are playing good poker.
Yeah, it's always one factor that other players look at but it's not just all about having a poker face but you can also fake a smile or disappointment in front of them.

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April 04, 2021, 08:47:03 AM
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just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.
I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.

Faking your emotions helps if you master it perfectly. It's not as easy at it is but very possible if you are really taking things seriously.

A lots of strategy and practices that you needed to understand in order to have some good edge against those experienced players who knows how to read r how to anticipate and counter your attempts.

You need to work and make sure to analyze each moves that you are trying to use keep trying to enhance each time you participate in any game and see if what are the good things that's being added to your game. win/lose should be calculated.

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April 04, 2021, 09:42:50 AM
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Does it mean offline poker betting?
Well, if it is about it, I think it is about emotional control. Some professional gamblers will have good emotional controls where the facial expression, body language, and also how they look are not predictable. Some people just play flat without noticed being happy or sad. So, it means that if you are ready to bet, it is better also to be ready in emotional control. Without it, we cannot control our emotions and we may have certain expressions that lead others to think or interpret something.


When I was young I was able to watched a gambling called poker when this became my mother past time and entertaining herself. Looking the faces of the player i can say that they are all seriously paying attention on the game, i just wonder does it really hard to play this game. I used to learn this game and now I can say that it is unpredictable game and a tricky at the same time. It is a game where we can't rely on luck and your skills, your techniques and your crucial thinking can lead you to win the game if not then you're just throwing your money in this kind of game.
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This is difficult to do and from my experience, those people that with extraordinary ability to control their emotions can only do this and often times they treat gambling as their career. If in a normal situation or other type of gambling games we can't control our emotion then being unpredicatable in poker is really impossible. Each of us has a 1 or 2 particular strategy that we follow in gambling, if we stick to that then in the long run our opponent will get used to it. To be unpredictable is to use different types of strategy as well as learning to be emotionless in different situations.

To learn how to hide your emotions, you can enroll in an acting improvisation group.  This is the so-called stand-up.  

Classes are held both in pairs (two partners) and in groups (several partners).  At the beginning of the session, participants perform exercises that develop attunement with partners.  Indeed, in acting improvisation, the main thing is not to interfere with the partner (not to pull the blanket over yourself).  

This is a very valuable skill for the player.  In some gambling games, the player needs to play not alone, but with a partner.  

It is important not only to skillfully hide your emotions.  

Perfect alignment with your partner is also very important.

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It is a game where we can't rely on luck and your skills, your techniques and your crucial thinking can lead you to win the game if not then you're just throwing your money in this kind of game.

Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.

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April 04, 2021, 02:18:24 PM
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Does it mean offline poker betting?
Well, if it is about it, I think it is about emotional control. Some professional gamblers will have good emotional controls where the facial expression, body language, and also how they look are not predictable. Some people just play flat without noticed being happy or sad. So, it means that if you are ready to bet, it is better also to be ready in emotional control. Without it, we cannot control our emotions and we may have certain expressions that lead others to think or interpret something.
When I was young I was able to watched a gambling called poker when this became my mother past time and entertaining herself. Looking the faces of the player i can say that they are all seriously paying attention on the game, i just wonder does it really hard to play this game. I used to learn this game and now I can say that it is unpredictable game and a tricky at the same time. It is a game where we can't rely on luck and your skills, your techniques and your crucial thinking can lead you to win the game if not then you're just throwing your money in this kind of game.

I am not so lucky to learn how to bluff other people like you. But what I get is hard to learn the trick to become unpredicted for the other player, and I guess that is if we have more experiences of playing poker with many peoples, so we can learn how they bluff the opponent player. Maybe playing a poker game is not hard as it says, but the trick is hard to learn, so that is why many people fail to trick the opponent. I can imagine how the newbie playing with some people, and that newbie do not have something that can trick the other people. That newbie can lose many times without winning, but if he can learn how to trick the other player, maybe he can win one or two times.

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April 04, 2021, 07:38:09 PM
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Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

imo there'll still be a difference on playing online and irl because even if you can't see the whole face because of a mask or glasses there are still many other micro-movements that can be observed, you know? like the velocity of hands, the dillatation of eyes (if they have no glasses), how they look, how they speak, how they breath... being in the physical presence of someone totally changes the game.
You are right, there are still many other aspects that you can take a look at if you are playing in a physical casino, but there is no doubt that if people begin to hide their face completely, as I think it is going to be the case for many poker players after this pandemic, then it is going to be a lot more problematic to read your opponents, after all there are already players that go out of their way to try to minimize as much as possible the information they give by not talking at the table unless it is absolutely necessary and this will help them to reduce information that they give even further.

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April 04, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
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You are right, there are still many other aspects that you can take a look at if you are playing in a physical casino, but there is no doubt that if people begin to hide their face completely, as I think it is going to be the case for many poker players after this pandemic, then it is going to be a lot more problematic to read your opponents, after all there are already players that go out of their way to try to minimize as much as possible the information they give by not talking at the table unless it is absolutely necessary and this will help them to reduce information that they give even further.

There are lots of poker players who unnecessarily speak about their cards like "Hey, I have got 3 Aces, wanna fold?" and similar distracting statements which sometimes affect the decision of opponents and they fold for real, then later they come to know that the guy was 'bluffing'. This is another way of winning but not effective on those who know about this already. And it is a casino, not a hospital where silence is needed so every player is allowed to speak.
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April 04, 2021, 10:09:37 PM
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Bluffing at random intervals seem to be the best way to deceive your opponents at poker, keep in mind that it has to be random, not set in a pattern because if your opponent has at least half a brain in a few rounds he/she will figure out your pattern and will then be able to correctly deduce your hand by the next roll. Be very unpredictable by confusing even yourself. That's the way to win at poker.

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April 05, 2021, 09:12:50 AM
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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.

I'd say it's definitely more a game of skill. The reason for this is that luck averages out over time. Skill doesn't, and is what separates good players from bad players.

Play a single hand, and yes, luck is very important. But play 1,000 hands, and luck is almost irrelevant.






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April 05, 2021, 09:13:50 AM
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You are right, there are still many other aspects that you can take a look at if you are playing in a physical casino, but there is no doubt that if people begin to hide their face completely, as I think it is going to be the case for many poker players after this pandemic, then it is going to be a lot more problematic to read your opponents, after all there are already players that go out of their way to try to minimize as much as possible the information they give by not talking at the table unless it is absolutely necessary and this will help them to reduce information that they give even further.
There are lots of poker players who unnecessarily speak about their cards like "Hey, I have got 3 Aces, wanna fold?" and similar distracting statements which sometimes affect the decision of opponents and they fold for real, then later they come to know that the guy was 'bluffing'. This is another way of winning but not effective on those who know about this already. And it is a casino, not a hospital where silence is needed so every player is allowed to speak.

If we play poker, we really have to be good at bluffing, and one of them is with a little saying that disturbs the attention of our opponents.
But we can't do that too often, because I've been admonished to keep quiet when trying to disturb my opponent in this way. Because maybe
my behavior has been considered annoying, even though we know that talking actually is allowed when playing poker. As long as it is not excessive
and disturbs the comfort of others. Therefore, bluffing by speaking that disturbs the opponent cannot be done too often. We've got to blend bluffing
with another way, In conclusion, we have to be creative in bluffing. And it takes practice to be able to do bluffing without suspicion.

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April 05, 2021, 09:15:59 PM
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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.

I'd say it's definitely more a game of skill. The reason for this is that luck averages out over time. Skill doesn't, and is what separates good players from bad players.

Play a single hand, and yes, luck is very important. But play 1,000 hands, and luck is almost irrelevant.
Agree with this and you would really able to see the difference to those who are just really playing and depending with luck and to those who are experienced about the game.
Luck is a big factor to win but we are talking about strategic kind of games which would really be relevant and it isnt something that every players could have.
You can see significant differences between the two if you do try to look or check out.The rest in talking about being unpredictable then
this is part of the experience that you had get on playing it.

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April 05, 2021, 09:59:49 PM
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For online gambling, forum discussions is another big thing players or gambler should be aware of.
In gambling sites forum or discussion board, I see some people runing their mouth on how they cast their dice or play their games.
This is good as its most time helpful for other players but unfortunately the site do ends up manipulating the game. So ya, being unpredictable is the best.
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April 05, 2021, 10:19:22 PM
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Bluffing at random intervals seem to be the best way to deceive your opponents at poker, keep in mind that it has to be random, not set in a pattern because if your opponent has at least half a brain in a few rounds he/she will figure out your pattern and will then be able to correctly deduce your hand by the next roll. Be very unpredictable by confusing even yourself. That's the way to win at poker.
I personally do not believe that a bluffing strategy will work all the time, as a bluffing strategy is a very dangerous strategy. If you are aware, you will only bluff when the card in your hand is bad and that is why you are bluffing. But on the contrary, when your cards are good even though you are not bluffing, usually your opponent will choose to fold the cards, right?
So, that's what I'm worried about a bluff strategy because playing online or offline for a bluff strategy can still be implemented but it's still a risk.

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April 05, 2021, 10:24:17 PM
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For online gambling, forum discussions is another big thing players or gambler should be aware of.
In gambling sites forum or discussion board, I see some people runing their mouth on how they cast their dice or play their games.
This is good as its most time helpful for other players but unfortunately the site do ends up manipulating the game. So ya, being unpredictable is the best.

It's a double edge sword, since you are unpredictable, You can loss everything at a single bet too if ever you feel doing max bet at some point when you play with a pattern or a rules for your playing guidelines. The game itself is unpredictable so playing it same as that will not gonna give you a consistent result which is important when you are gambling. Reading other guide and opinions about the game itself will just confused player if the ever the game go south against the guide.

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For online gambling, forum discussions is another big thing players or gambler should be aware of.
In gambling sites forum or discussion board, I see some people runing their mouth on how they cast their dice or play their games.
This is good as its most time helpful for other players but unfortunately the site do ends up manipulating the game. So ya, being unpredictable is the best.

It's a double edge sword, since you are unpredictable, You can loss everything at a single bet too if ever you feel doing max bet at some point when you play with a pattern or a rules for your playing guidelines. The game itself is unpredictable so playing it same as that will not gonna give you a consistent result which is important when you are gambling. Reading other guide and opinions about the game itself will just confused player if the ever the game go south against the guide.
It might not be consistent but its better to have these way rather than making yourself obvious which would really be a disadvantage even though the game is unpredictable or even random.

Don't try to be perfectionist because this will just stress you out or mess those things that you do have in mind.Try to follow your own ways of playing without letting yourself
being read up by others.


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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.
I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

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April 07, 2021, 05:44:05 PM
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You are right, there are still many other aspects that you can take a look at if you are playing in a physical casino, but there is no doubt that if people begin to hide their face completely, as I think it is going to be the case for many poker players after this pandemic, then it is going to be a lot more problematic to read your opponents, after all there are already players that go out of their way to try to minimize as much as possible the information they give by not talking at the table unless it is absolutely necessary and this will help them to reduce information that they give even further.

There are lots of poker players who unnecessarily speak about their cards like "Hey, I have got 3 Aces, wanna fold?" and similar distracting statements which sometimes affect the decision of opponents and they fold for real, then later they come to know that the guy was 'bluffing'. This is another way of winning but not effective on those who know about this already. And it is a casino, not a hospital where silence is needed so every player is allowed to speak.
I know there are different kind of players, what you are describing is very similar to what Daniel Negreanu does all the time, the difference is that he is a master poker player so not only he can get information out of his opponent by provoking them but also he can hide his own intentions while doing it, but very few people have that kind of talent, it is way simpler and easier to just shut up, play some solid poker and to try to diminish the information that you give out to the opponents with your body language including your facial expressions.

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April 07, 2021, 06:51:27 PM
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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.
I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.

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April 07, 2021, 07:23:43 PM
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I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.
You can have it one day and you can use it for other purposes too not only by playing poker but also with other important things and events that may come to you.
I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.
Chance and luck for poker is just part of it but the way you handle yourself with good or bad hands, you call it skill.

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April 07, 2021, 09:56:26 PM
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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.
I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.
Its attainable!

but it would really be requiring lots of time involvement or experiencing it out because reading up body language isnt something that you can master out
but if you do play out on constant manner then you would really be able to tell the difference.

Just play and enjoy the game because experience will be normally for you to attain and if you do wish or having a goal
to have this kind of edge among the others then you should be that patient.

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April 07, 2021, 11:08:37 PM
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just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.
I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.

yes, definitely it's not a must, but may help.
any activity that helps with proprioception and body counsciousness tbh, even dance.
but of course, these are just tools for one's toolbox, not a must have.

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April 07, 2021, 11:22:16 PM
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just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.
I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.
yes, definitely it's not a must, but may help.
any activity that helps with proprioception and body counsciousness tbh, even dance.
but of course, these are just tools for one's toolbox, not a must have.

We do have to try to do something to be able to control our body language, indeed practicing theater can be very helpful. But it is not a necessity
as you say, because we can train it anywhere, not necessarily practicing theater. I myself don't have time to join a theater group or join a dance,
I just learn from the internet. There are so many tutorials on the internet that can help us control our emotions and body language.

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April 07, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion.  Wink
Seriously, this will depend on you and what type of personality do you have. If you’re look more serious then it can be a good weapon for you, and if you look with less emotion that can also be good. We don’t know how the opponents reads your every move, so stay calm and focus on the game.

I actually do agree on this one, that playing online basically removes the element of reading minds. You can try to read your opponents intentions when playing online but you would not be able to read his mind based on his actions, his facial expressions, and other gestures that one normally does when playing poker in the casino setting. Bluff can be efficient in an online game but can also be predictable when played multiple times with the same players.

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April 08, 2021, 11:53:52 AM
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Gambling requires skill it is never possible to avoid risk if you have no idea about the game you are right it is not possible to understand what is going on in someone's mind the mind can never participate in gambling later. Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

it may not be possible to avoid risk completely but you can minimize it
and not all gambling requires skill, let's say, dice, as an example
the skill will be much more on how you manage your payroll but the outcome will be more than 90% luck than anything else
don't you think?

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I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.
Its attainable!

but it would really be requiring lots of time involvement or experiencing it out because reading up body language isnt something that you can master out

I agree. Even dogs can learn to read body language to some degree.  Grin

It's amazing the level of connection they can establish with humans!
People often think their dog understands English, when in fact he doesn't. He understands their meaning.

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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.
There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

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April 12, 2021, 04:30:54 PM
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Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.
I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.
Poker players do everything that it is within their ability to do to give themselves an edge and they do so because they know that if they do not do it then someone else will do so and they will have an edge over them, been able to decipher body language is critical because it can help you to make a better decision just when you need it the most, in fact I have seen Phil Hellmuth do some incredible reads on the table that save him a lot of money.

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April 12, 2021, 04:36:11 PM
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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.
There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.

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April 12, 2021, 04:41:11 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

There is a big difference between playing online and playing at the casino tables, although both rely on a solid knowledge of the odds as the cards play out. I would worry less about giving off an "image" or trying to represent a certain play style online, just don't let people steamroll you all the time. If everyone is playing a tight game, either switch tables or be prepared to loosen up and push harder with some lousy stellar hands. You'll either bluff your way through to success, or encourage people to bet against you more often and this can be helpful when you get great cards. Learn all the hand odds calculations, keep practicing and play consistently if you want to win over the long term. So many players try to rush the game out of impatience and you just need to be ready to suck the money up when they crack.

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April 12, 2021, 05:24:39 PM
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Just knowing how to play poker is not enough, and you also have to learn the overall strategy, how to bluff and how to deal with opponents who are bluffing.
And when you are bluffing, try not to do it over and over again and if you do, other players will find out about your plan and realize that you are just bluffing, and you will lose if the other players read you.
play in a relaxed and calm manner so that it is not easy to read when you have a good or bad hand, and if you know someone who is good at poker then it doesn't hurt to ask that person for help or advice.

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April 12, 2021, 07:10:45 PM
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Just knowing how to play poker is not enough, and you also have to learn the overall strategy, how to bluff and how to deal with opponents who are bluffing.
And when you are bluffing, try not to do it over and over again and if you do, other players will find out about your plan and realize that you are just bluffing, and you will lose if the other players read you.
play in a relaxed and calm manner so that it is not easy to read when you have a good or bad hand, and if you know someone who is good at poker then it doesn't hurt to ask that person for help or advice.

Good tips!

Another suggestion is to train to play on free platforms, with other players. Of course here, since the money is not real, the players' behavior is different, as they risk more. Either way, after a few hours of playing, you will realize that each person has a different attitude to the game, and that can be a good workout.


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It takes a lot of practice in real life to become unpredictable in gambling (especially poker). 

In the morning after training, brush your teeth not only with your right hand, but also with your left hand.  This will allow you to use both the right and left hemispheres of the brain.  Write down your dreams.  Dreams are the work of your subconscious mind.  Knowing yourself better will help you become unpredictable in gambling. 

Avoid boilerplate behavior.  Walk with your back forward more often (but do not cross the road, otherwise you will easily provoke an accident). 

Try to do unusual things, visit unusual places, meet new people.

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April 13, 2021, 05:47:30 PM
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It takes a lot of practice in real life to become unpredictable in gambling (especially poker). 

In the morning after training, brush your teeth not only with your right hand, but also with your left hand.  This will allow you to use both the right and left hemispheres of the brain.  Write down your dreams.  Dreams are the work of your subconscious mind.  Knowing yourself better will help you become unpredictable in gambling. 

Avoid boilerplate behavior.  Walk with your back forward more often (but do not cross the road, otherwise you will easily provoke an accident). 

Try to do unusual things, visit unusual places, meet new people.

I like the way you think.
other cool exercises are:
-praticing new skills
- doing everyday skills balancing only in one foot

not being afraid of being silly is a huge advantage.

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April 16, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.
There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.
I do not totally agree with this not a single player is going to lose on purpose a hand just to try to confuse their opponents, what they can do is that once they realize that they're going to lose they might as well just confuse their opponent and try to get some advantage of a hand that they know they're going to lose already, this way the next time they are the ones that have the best hand they are more difficult to read for their opponents and they can extract more money out of them.

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April 16, 2021, 07:26:46 PM
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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.
There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.
I do not totally agree with this not a single player is going to lose on purpose a hand just to try to confuse their opponents, what they can do is that once they realize that they're going to lose they might as well just confuse their opponent and try to get some advantage of a hand that they know they're going to lose already, this way the next time they are the ones that have the best hand they are more difficult to read for their opponents and they can extract more money out of them.

That's what I wanted to say. I was not able to explain correctly. Thanks for the help in the reasoning I wanted to present.

I am sorry, my English is not very good, and I have difficulty explaining the idea correctly. Wink

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April 16, 2021, 07:37:26 PM
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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.
There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.
Hmm, yes possibly. Just to create a stir and confusion, they allow themselves to lose with small amounts that they can easily recover afterwards upon winning.
That will surely create them a confused pattern which they can't use to follow your decision making as you play.

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April 16, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
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There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.
Hmm, yes possibly. Just to create a stir and confusion, they allow themselves to lose with small amounts that they can easily recover afterwards upon winning.
That will surely create them a confused pattern which they can't use to follow your decision making as you play.

The problem I see here is that we need to play sub optimal just to stir up our pattern. So while this might make us unpredictable it will also make us lose money if we don't play optimal in the long run. Poker games can be fully analysed with Solvers. So for any given hand there is a GTO (Game Theory Optimal) perfect strategy which good poker players use. Most professional poker players will make small adjustments but stick close to the optimal strategy.
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You can be easy to read if you keep on repeating whatever you are doing or follow certain pattern. In poker, you have to be unpredictable by playing your opponent. If you keep on folding when you have a bad hand, you become very predictable when you have a good hand. When you keep on folding when the cards flop just because you don't have good combination, then people will know when you make a move, you have a very good pair/combination. You should be very random. Play bad hands! You can also achieve this through bluffs! And try to call peoples bluff sometimes. When they see you fold every time they bluff, they can take a very good advantage of you.

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April 17, 2021, 07:13:01 PM
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There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.
Hmm, yes possibly. Just to create a stir and confusion, they allow themselves to lose with small amounts that they can easily recover afterwards upon winning.
That will surely create them a confused pattern which they can't use to follow your decision making as you play.

The problem I see here is that we need to play sub optimal just to stir up our pattern. So while this might make us unpredictable it will also make us lose money if we don't play optimal in the long run. Poker games can be fully analysed with Solvers. So for any given hand there is a GTO (Game Theory Optimal) perfect strategy which good poker players use. Most professional poker players will make small adjustments but stick close to the optimal strategy.
That's actually the plan, to lose but you don't intend that to happen to have a losing streak. It's like an icebreaker for that guy if ever he's really wanting to lose to confuse.
I haven't heard about that GTO strategy you've said, I'll do a search regarding it.

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April 19, 2021, 06:48:17 PM
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You can be easy to read if you keep on repeating whatever you are doing or follow certain pattern. In poker, you have to be unpredictable by playing your opponent. If you keep on folding when you have a bad hand, you become very predictable when you have a good hand. When you keep on folding when the cards flop just because you don't have good combination, then people will know when you make a move, you have a very good pair/combination. You should be very random. Play bad hands! You can also achieve this through bluffs! And try to call peoples bluff sometimes. When they see you fold every time they bluff, they can take a very good advantage of you.
One thing to remember as well is that we also need to mix our style depending on the kind of table in which we are, we do not play against computers but other players and the table dynamics are going to be different in each game, if we see a table that is full of loose players that play many hands then tightening our style makes sense as you do not want to to play against those people unless your hand is rock solid, an if the table is composed mostly of tight players then you should adjust and become more loose, this way you can steal the blinds over and over again.

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April 19, 2021, 07:34:10 PM
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One thing to remember as well is that we also need to mix our style depending on the kind of table in which we are, we do not play against computers but other players and the table dynamics are going to be different in each game, if we see a table that is full of loose players that play many hands then tightening our style makes sense as you do not want to to play against those people unless your hand is rock solid, an if the table is composed mostly of tight players then you should adjust and become more loose, this way you can steal the blinds over and over again.

This is sometimes the problem for less experienced players, not being able to adapt their game to the circumstances of the table and their opponents.
To have this ability you have to play a lot, and maybe even lose many times. Play and watch others play.

Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.

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I would like to mention that successful poker players try to leave as little as possible to chance. Instead of playing randomly, they do so by following a set schedule. Why not use an online calendar or Excel spreadsheet to schedule and note down your playing and study hours?
Remember not to overdo it and save time for other activities as well. Playing too much can cause burnout, which in turn causes you to make poor decisions at the table.
When opening a business, it is normal to make projections about how it might work. Although this should apply to a poker career as well, there are so many players who skip this step.
Another important aspect is bankroll management, want an example? A player should not participate in a cash game whose buy-in is not at least 25 times lower than his bankroll: if such a player wants to participate in a cash game whose buy-in is $50, his bankroll should be at least $1,250. A player who participates in a tournament should never invest more than 2% of his bankroll in the buy-in. This attitude may seem too conservative, but it is very important not to underestimate the weight of variance in poker. In cash games, even experienced players may not win for more than 10 buy-ins, in tournaments such negative series may be even longer. The management of our bankroll must be designed to allow us to survive even in conditions of prolonged heavy losses.
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One thing to remember as well is that we also need to mix our style depending on the kind of table in which we are, we do not play against computers but other players and the table dynamics are going to be different in each game, if we see a table that is full of loose players that play many hands then tightening our style makes sense as you do not want to to play against those people unless your hand is rock solid, an if the table is composed mostly of tight players then you should adjust and become more loose, this way you can steal the blinds over and over again.

This is sometimes the problem for less experienced players, not being able to adapt their game to the circumstances of the table and their opponents.
To have this ability you have to play a lot, and maybe even lose many times. Play and watch others play.

Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.

This practiced needs a lots of time and possible lots of money to spent, knowing your opponents and trying your emotion being take care.

There are lots of well experienced gamblers who can easily track you down and use each emotions from you to read up what's inside you, those learnings are very important to improved your chances of countering them and make them failed each time they attempt to go against your call.

Time consuming but very rewarding once you done it in the right manners,.

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Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.
Practice is the way to do that so that the opponents won't be able to track your style. It's the way of other players to be unpredictable and it's not just happening within a single timeframe but it takes a lot of time before they master it or at least near perfect it.
From the emotions, their playing style, moves and other noticeable actions that can be seen by the opponents.

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April 19, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

You are lucky if you have a poker face but it's still go down on your preparation and practice, I think doing Yoga can achieve your goal of having no expression or feeling at all, it's hard to suppress your expression if you are winning it takes a lot of practice to display a poker face, but it's a must if your competitor have no idea what's behind your face, so practice a lot.
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April 19, 2021, 11:48:12 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I'm not a pro in playing these poker games,  but I do think that anyone can fake out their emotions when playing to try to mislead the other players. It depends probably on the personality of the player if he can do that. It always won't be easy to predict someone's gameplay if he's making fool of the situation and mislead other players through his reactions/emotions. I somehow can do that sometimes lol.

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Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.
Practice is the way to do that so that the opponents won't be able to track your style. It's the way of other players to be unpredictable and it's not just happening within a single timeframe but it takes a lot of time before they master it or at least near perfect it.
From the emotions, their playing style, moves and other noticeable actions that can be seen by the opponents.

Another thing that must not be forgotten is that the player must be able to adapt during the course of a match.
At first you may have a bad (or even apparently good) hand, but as the cards come out, a bad hand can become interesting or stop being a good hand.
So the player has to adapt his strategy. And you have to do this, so that the opponents do not realize if you have a good or bad hand during the match.

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April 20, 2021, 02:18:50 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you are born with a poker face that solves your problem but if you are not, you are going to need to practice a lot, there are people who are really good at making or creating a poker face because they dedicated years to have zero emotion and to look naturally at having a poker face, you can do that also if you dedicated yourself to being a poker face.
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April 20, 2021, 03:02:01 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you are born with a poker face that solves your problem but if you are not, you are going to need to practice a lot, there are people who are really good at making or creating a poker face because they dedicated years to have zero emotion and to look naturally at having a poker face, you can do that also if you dedicated yourself to being a poker face.

Yeah right, there are people who have it. they are naturally born having a poker face and it's not a problem to hide their feelings.
It's an advantage since they don't need to practice anything, having this inside you can accumulate more hardship to your opponents.
They needed to check it out it what's your next move.
If you don't have it, you need to practice and keep trying to do your best in order compete with those who have it naturally.
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April 20, 2021, 03:09:55 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I'm not a pro in playing these poker games,  but I do think that anyone can fake out their emotions when playing to try to mislead the other players. It depends probably on the personality of the player if he can do that. It always won't be easy to predict someone's gameplay if he's making fool of the situation and mislead other players through his reactions/emotions. I somehow can do that sometimes lol.
Faking the emotions in the poker game sometimes is hard because if we meet a pro poker player, they will somehow know if we are fake out or really do not have a good card. I can fake the emotions but that is not for playing poker game because I can not play that game Grin

We can feel confident if we have a good card, but we do not know if the other player has a good card. Playing poker will not just depend on how we can pretend to have a good card, but it also depends on how we can bluff the opponent.

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Tomorrow, together with other 7 friends, I will be playing in a poker evening session (covid free) since Huh I do not even remember when was the last time! Time to apply what were the most interesting tips and tricks you guys shared in this thread!  Wink
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April 20, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
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Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.
Practice is the way to do that so that the opponents won't be able to track your style. It's the way of other players to be unpredictable and it's not just happening within a single timeframe but it takes a lot of time before they master it or at least near perfect it.
From the emotions, their playing style, moves and other noticeable actions that can be seen by the opponents.

Another thing that must not be forgotten is that the player must be able to adapt during the course of a match.
At first you may have a bad (or even apparently good) hand, but as the cards come out, a bad hand can become interesting or stop being a good hand.
So the player has to adapt his strategy. And you have to do this, so that the opponents do not realize if you have a good or bad hand during the match.
Yup. That's really happening for poker players, they're adapting what's in their hands, good or bad hands, they can work with it. And that depends to the scaring factor that they can bring to their opponents.
Bluffing and sometimes you do, sometimes you're serious. That's a common strategy that everybody does.

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Tomorrow, together with other 7 friends, I will be playing in a poker evening session (covid free) since Huh I do not even remember when was the last time! Time to apply what were the most interesting tips and tricks you guys shared in this thread!  Wink

Why need tips and tricks if you already know the basics of playing poker?

Just play on your usual, it's much comfortable. And it's not something you are competing with strangers, it's your friends.

Enjoy the game, that's it.

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Tomorrow, together with other 7 friends, I will be playing in a poker evening session (covid free) since Huh I do not even remember when was the last time! Time to apply what were the most interesting tips and tricks you guys shared in this thread!  Wink

Why need tips and tricks if you already know the basics of playing poker?

Just play on your usual, it's much comfortable. And it's not something you are competing with strangers, it's your friends.

Enjoy the game, that's it.
You wouldnt feel the very essence of the game if you are just trying to force out yourself on following into something.I agree that you must
enjoy the game rather than a stressful one because you do persevere to win but well this is the main goal on why we do gambler on which
we do aim to make money but dont forget the very essence that we do really need to enjoy and be comfortable no matter what kind
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April 20, 2021, 11:24:09 PM
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You wouldnt feel the very essence of the game if you are just trying to force out yourself on following into something.I agree that you must
enjoy the game rather than a stressful one because you do persevere to win but well this is the main goal on why we do gambler on which
we do aim to make money but dont forget the very essence that we do really need to enjoy and be comfortable no matter what kind
of method or ways that you are trying to make use.

This must be the first thing, when starting! Play for fun, without the stress of winning or losing.

Therefore, one should start with a low investment or even on free platforms.
To evolve, and then gradually start to risk more, entering more serious games.
But then, you have to be willing to lose. Because in the beginning, it is more likely to lose than to win. Unless you're a genius. Roll Eyes

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April 22, 2021, 03:17:33 PM
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You wouldnt feel the very essence of the game if you are just trying to force out yourself on following into something.I agree that you must
enjoy the game rather than a stressful one because you do persevere to win but well this is the main goal on why we do gambler on which
we do aim to make money but dont forget the very essence that we do really need to enjoy and be comfortable no matter what kind
of method or ways that you are trying to make use.
Well playing gambling or even whatever kind of play it is be it card, dice, or casino maybe there have some of the rules that must follow but i will agree in the fact that a player should enjoy the game because one of the reason why you are playing or gambling was to entertain yourself right. Though, tricks and tips can be provided by other people but at the ened of the day its you who will handle it, sometimes those tips and tricks was being forgotten while on game because along the way you learned your own kind of tricks.
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April 25, 2021, 07:24:50 PM
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One thing to remember as well is that we also need to mix our style depending on the kind of table in which we are, we do not play against computers but other players and the table dynamics are going to be different in each game, if we see a table that is full of loose players that play many hands then tightening our style makes sense as you do not want to to play against those people unless your hand is rock solid, an if the table is composed mostly of tight players then you should adjust and become more loose, this way you can steal the blinds over and over again.

This is sometimes the problem for less experienced players, not being able to adapt their game to the circumstances of the table and their opponents.
To have this ability you have to play a lot, and maybe even lose many times. Play and watch others play.

Whether we like it or not, we all have a style, even with its possible variations. Therefore, we have to train this style, to be able to adapt it to the situations of the table, and in turn not to create clear patterns for the opponents.
I am the first to admit that it took me a lot of time to understand this myself, and for a long time I just played in the same way regardless of who my opponent was, but this does not make sense, if you are playing against a newbie that barely knows the rules of poker then you need to play just solid poker because anything other than that will fly over their head, but when you are playing against a good player that is when you can make use of your arsenal of advanced plays, so as we can see adjusting to the type of opponent that we have is essential if we want to win at poker.

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April 25, 2021, 10:47:54 PM
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Why need tips and tricks if you already know the basics of playing poker?

Just play on your usual, it's much comfortable. And it's not something you are competing with strangers, it's your friends.

Enjoy the game, that's it.

I think that if the opponents in the game often play with each other, then the usual game is rather boring - like playing solitaire. Therefore, applying new tactics or interesting tricks can bring the game to life. In the end, the players get their main emotions not from the result, but from the process of the game.

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I am the first to admit that it took me a lot of time to understand this myself, and for a long time I just played in the same way regardless of who my opponent was, but this does not make sense, if you are playing against a newbie that barely knows the rules of poker then you need to play just solid poker because anything other than that will fly over their head, but when you are playing against a good player that is when you can make use of your arsenal of advanced plays, so as we can see adjusting to the type of opponent that we have is essential if we want to win at poker.

Sometimes playing with newbies can get more complicated. Since they still have no addictions and, because of their lack of experience, they have a more difficult playing style to play. Able to make plays, meaningless to a professional and take risks in a totally "crazy" situation.

This can sometimes make them win. But it is in this phase of apparent victory, that the experts are able to re-control the table, since the novice, begins to be more predictable and in this way the experts already have a better understanding of what may happen.

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April 29, 2021, 05:22:34 PM
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I am the first to admit that it took me a lot of time to understand this myself, and for a long time I just played in the same way regardless of who my opponent was, but this does not make sense, if you are playing against a newbie that barely knows the rules of poker then you need to play just solid poker because anything other than that will fly over their head, but when you are playing against a good player that is when you can make use of your arsenal of advanced plays, so as we can see adjusting to the type of opponent that we have is essential if we want to win at poker.

Sometimes playing with newbies can get more complicated. Since they still have no addictions and, because of their lack of experience, they have a more difficult playing style to play. Able to make plays, meaningless to a professional and take risks in a totally "crazy" situation.

This can sometimes make them win. But it is in this phase of apparent victory, that the experts are able to re-control the table, since the novice, begins to be more predictable and in this way the experts already have a better understanding of what may happen.
Correct, newbies are a pain to read, after all if you are playing against a player you consider good then you can narrow what kind of hands he could have based on his position and betting patterns and this could give hindsight of whether you are ahead or behind at the moment, but when it comes to a newbie this is impossible as they can go all-in with nothing on their hand and just rely on their luck and still beat you that way, which is why when I play against someone I consider a newbie I just concentrate on playing solid poker and grow the pot.

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April 29, 2021, 05:46:58 PM
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Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Sometimes in the game of poker theory is not enough, but from experience losing and making changes (practice) can have good results in the future.

You are right, playing poker must have tricks and techniques to see the opponent's card, it is very difficult to explain here, without directly involving in the game.

Sometimes google provides a little description of the practice of doing poker betting tricks and techniques, for that this way: 9 Basic Poker Strategy Tips for Beginners, can add a little knowledge in determining the direction of the game of poker, at least to be better than before.

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April 29, 2021, 06:56:28 PM
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Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Sometimes in the game of poker theory is not enough, but from experience losing and making changes (practice) can have good results in the future.

You are right, playing poker must have tricks and techniques to see the opponent's card, it is very difficult to explain here, without directly involving in the game.

Sometimes google provides a little description of the practice of doing poker betting tricks and techniques, for that this way: 9 Basic Poker Strategy Tips for Beginners, can add a little knowledge in determining the direction of the game of poker, at least to be better than before.

The most important thing about poker is that we shouldn't change our strategy because we lost one hand, or in one night. It can take a few hundred hands for our strategy to fully show itself. Keeping track of our winnings is very important, a past hand analysis should also be done whenever possible. To remain unpredictable the best idea is to play a large range of hand similar. If we play AK the same way we plat 910 suited than it will be very hard for our opponents to put us on an exact hand.
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Keeping track of our winnings is very important, a past hand analysis should also be done whenever possible. To remain unpredictable the best idea is to play a large range of hand similar. If we play AK the same way we plat 910 suited than it will be very hard for our opponents to put us on an exact hand.
^ What was the importance of tracking winning? I do not see any relevance in this analysis in order for you to win.
I liked poker games but remember it is always different playing poker in the offline casinos than the online casino, there is no real bluffing in the online casinos. Bluffing is not just easy, you will probably ask a question in yourself first before doing such a bluff, like are you representing a legit hand? or even like what does my opponent think I have? Nevertheless, never show fearful players, let them keep guessing.
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Keeping track of our winnings is very important, a past hand analysis should also be done whenever possible. To remain unpredictable the best idea is to play a large range of hand similar. If we play AK the same way we plat 910 suited than it will be very hard for our opponents to put us on an exact hand.
^ What was the importance of tracking winning? I do not see any relevance in this analysis in order for you to win.
I liked poker games but remember it is always different playing poker in the offline casinos than the online casino, there is no real bluffing in the online casinos. Bluffing is not just easy, you will probably ask a question in yourself first before doing such a bluff, like are you representing a legit hand? or even like what does my opponent think I have? Nevertheless, never show fearful players, let them keep guessing.
When it comes to experience then it is totally different or we can say that it could never be the same in terms of real user experience and essence so theres no point on making out some comparisons.
You cant apply those gestures and emotions when you do play online so there no point with that.I can say that it is a bit hard to deal up with opponents online
because you dont know neither they do have good hands or bad but eventually you can really spot out some behavior.

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Sometimes playing with newbies can get more complicated. Since they still have no addictions and, because of their lack of experience, they have a more difficult playing style to play. Able to make plays, meaningless to a professional and take risks in a totally "crazy" situation.
And them as newbies, they have the beginners luck but it's up to the people if they'll be believing on it. But as per experience, they really are lucky with their first turns and experience to play.

This can sometimes make them win. But it is in this phase of apparent victory, that the experts are able to re-control the table, since the novice, begins to be more predictable and in this way the experts already have a better understanding of what may happen.
I remember it when I was a newbie player and played with my relative who's been into this game for a long time, I've got a good hand yet still lose due to his observation on me.

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May 03, 2021, 05:26:40 PM
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Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Sometimes in the game of poker theory is not enough, but from experience losing and making changes (practice) can have good results in the future.

You are right, playing poker must have tricks and techniques to see the opponent's card, it is very difficult to explain here, without directly involving in the game.

Sometimes google provides a little description of the practice of doing poker betting tricks and techniques, for that this way: 9 Basic Poker Strategy Tips for Beginners, can add a little knowledge in determining the direction of the game of poker, at least to be better than before.
Poker like most things in life requires both, you need to have some theoretic knowledge about the game to be able to play it at a good enough level, but after some time your biggest improvements are going to come from putting in practice that knowledge and this is something that can only be achieved by playing, some of those lessons you will learn are going to be incredibly expensive but at least you are never going to forget them due to the cost you will need to pay.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.

that is a curious point to bring to the discussion, differently than chess, on poker a computer may not be as good or have an edge on the game,
is it possible that a this statement doesn't hold true at all times?
will good human poker players always have an ede over computers on the long run?

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.

that is a curious point to bring to the discussion, differently than chess, on poker a computer may not be as good or have an edge on the game,
is it possible that a this statement doesn't hold true at all times?
will good human poker players always have an ede over computers on the long run?

If the game is not addicted to the computer. He will never know the cards that the other players have.
Therefore, it will only play based on its probabilities and the type of programming as it was built. And in that sense, it will depend a lot on who was the strategist who set up the AI for the game. Whether or not you are a good real poker player, and whether you take more chances or not. Normally the computer has been programmed with several strategies, the AI's ability to choose the best one for the game.

Now, since poker is more unpredictable and depends a lot on each human player, it is usually not as effective in poker.

In the case of Chess it is different, that there are defined rules and finite probabilities, cheating the well-programmed AI makes the game very difficult for an ordinary human.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.

that is a curious point to bring to the discussion, differently than chess, on poker a computer may not be as good or have an edge on the game,
is it possible that a this statement doesn't hold true at all times?
will good human poker players always have an ede over computers on the long run?

The computer has long learned to beat a person in a game of chess. 

People now play chess too, using computers to calculate combinations.  Recently, the computer beat the world champion in the game of go.  It is believed that the game of go is much more difficult than chess.  It is a game with a huge number of possible combinations, and until recently it was believed that a computer could never beat a human in a game of go, since human qualities such as intuition and creativity were needed to win. 

However, things turned out differently ...

With poker, everything is more complicated, because the game is based on bluffing.  However, when poker is played online, the player has fewer opportunities to cheat and bluff. 

Therefore, in online poker (in my opinion), modern AI will have an advantage.

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Don't play with the same people, that's really the only way of being unpredictable, even then if you've ever participated in high level sports, or anything for that matter as the skill level increases, you expect your opponents to be better, and therefore they will generally follow similar strategies, since its proven to work.

Going back to poker specifically, at higher leveled games, and therefore higher stakes at hand, its not unknown for the players to have studied the psychology of humans, and therefore attempt to look for these triggers which the player isn't even aware they are doing themselves. The fact is, our body gives off more indications off subconsciously, than we do while we are consciously thinking. The only way you can truly become unpredictable, is learning what your body does, identifying it, and then training it via muscle memory to prevent "leaking" these indications. There's a few books out there, and podcasts which talk about this side of the game, and generally we are talking about the higher staked games here, rather than your local pub get together game.
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Don't play with the same people, that's really the only way of being unpredictable, even then if you've ever participated in high level sports, or anything for that matter as the skill level increases, you expect your opponents to be better, and therefore they will generally follow similar strategies, since its proven to work.

Going back to poker specifically, at higher leveled games, and therefore higher stakes at hand, its not unknown for the players to have studied the psychology of humans, and therefore attempt to look for these triggers which the player isn't even aware they are doing themselves. The fact is, our body gives off more indications off subconsciously, than we do while we are consciously thinking. The only way you can truly become unpredictable, is learning what your body does, identifying it, and then training it via muscle memory to prevent "leaking" these indications. There's a few books out there, and podcasts which talk about this side of the game, and generally we are talking about the higher staked games here, rather than your local pub get together game.

There are so many different games to train your communication skills.  I have already written about one of these games, this is the Russian-Ukrainian psychological game "Mafia".  The game "Mafia" allows you to train the skills of bluffing and lying. 

This popular game has even been featured in a sci-fi feature film (Mafia (Survival Game):

https://youtu.be/IRrN5MQoxpQ

It is also helpful to get training in acting.  If you are a professional player, you can pay for the services of an acting teacher. 

The instructor will purposefully teach you the art of bluffing while playing poker.

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May 07, 2021, 09:00:43 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.
But that is the thing we are not computers but humans, I think what the OP is looking for is for a systematic way of being unpredictable and while achieving that in a perfect fashion is impossible you can in fact become harder to read by simply adjusting your playing style and even the way you manage yourself at the table, one day you could be very talkative and the next time you face the same opponent you could be very quiet, small things like that confuse your opponents especially if they know you well and can give you a small edge when it matters.

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May 11, 2021, 10:18:49 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No, because there is a reason why hardly any casinos use computerized poker opponents. Simply because they do not play according to feelings but only according to probabilities. A bluff of yours is immediately exposed when the computer calls. Then you have to go out.

that is a curious point to bring to the discussion, differently than chess, on poker a computer may not be as good or have an edge on the game,
is it possible that a this statement doesn't hold true at all times?
will good human poker players always have an ede over computers on the long run?

The computer has long learned to beat a person in a game of chess. 

People now play chess too, using computers to calculate combinations.  Recently, the computer beat the world champion in the game of go.  It is believed that the game of go is much more difficult than chess.  It is a game with a huge number of possible combinations, and until recently it was believed that a computer could never beat a human in a game of go, since human qualities such as intuition and creativity were needed to win. 

However, things turned out differently ...

With poker, everything is more complicated, because the game is based on bluffing.  However, when poker is played online, the player has fewer opportunities to cheat and bluff. 

Therefore, in online poker (in my opinion), modern AI will have an advantage.

I'd bring this point on AI.

how long do you think for us to have modern AI being able to bluff effectivelly?

DO you remember how google translator was worse like 5 or 10 years ago?
translation is much better now and probably in 10-30 years human translators will have a hard time finding new jobs...

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May 11, 2021, 10:42:20 PM
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I'd bring this point on AI.

how long do you think for us to have modern AI being able to bluff effectivelly?

DO you remember how google translator was worse like 5 or 10 years ago?
translation is much better now and probably in 10-30 years human translators will have a hard time finding new jobs...


The problem is not that the AI is able to make a good bluff. This will certainly not be a very difficult thing. The problem is in AI being able to understand the bluff that humans are making.

Poker is not a game with finite options, such as chess. In poker, the player can have the worst hand in the world and still take a risk.
It will always be difficult for an AI to understand whether or not the signals that the player shows during the game are true or not.

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May 11, 2021, 10:43:59 PM
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I'd bring this point on AI.

how long do you think for us to have modern AI being able to bluff effectivelly?

DO you remember how google translator was worse like 5 or 10 years ago?
translation is much better now and probably in 10-30 years human translators will have a hard time finding new jobs...

You talk about the past  Smiley
As far as I know, neural networks have long defeated people in limit poker and the only stronghold where people still win is no-limit (although I have not been interested in this topic for a year, and perhaps this bastion has already fallen). And as I understand it, the AI should not be able to bluff to effectively beat people.

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May 12, 2021, 06:07:41 AM
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I am not an expert in poker but the best solution for your problem is just to play randomly, control your emotions and always consistent with your plan. People may read your cards based on your emotion and how you act once you see your card, you may also trick them whenever you got bad cards then make your emotion good or whenever you got good cards then pretend to be not good. You may trick them by doing these things, but you should not do it continuously because they will know to read you as well if you do it continously.

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Just practice poker face and limit your movements or make a lot of movements so they can't find the pattern on your moves. I think that those are the only things that matter in a game of poker, make a really flamboyant one so they think that you are cocky or be tacit and have them question your next move.
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May 12, 2021, 06:55:49 AM
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Just practice poker face and limit your movements or make a lot of movements so they can't find the pattern on your moves. I think that those are the only things that matter in a game of poker, make a really flamboyant one so they think that you are cocky or be tacit and have them question your next move.

Do this, without becoming theatrical. If not, it will give you the clear idea that you are playing a meaningless and logical game, and that way it will be easier for opponents to be able to understand what you are trying to do.

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May 12, 2021, 08:17:08 AM
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Do this, without becoming theatrical. If not, it will give you the clear idea that you are playing a meaningless and logical game, and that way it will be easier for opponents to be able to understand what you are trying to do.
Yeah, I forgot to add that you should look natural when you are doing a poker face because a bad one is a good tell that you are hiding something and makes you easy to predict. Another one I think you can do is play risky all the time but that is if you can handle the stress of playing risky.
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Do this, without becoming theatrical. If not, it will give you the clear idea that you are playing a meaningless and logical game, and that way it will be easier for opponents to be able to understand what you are trying to do.
Yeah, I forgot to add that you should look natural when you are doing a poker face because a bad one is a good tell that you are hiding something and makes you easy to predict. Another one I think you can do is play risky all the time but that is if you can handle the stress of playing risky.

Poker face and make it looks natural, that's truly hard to predict what encircling inside your minds.

Lots of gamblers practice this and make it realistic, they use this skills to take advantage with those gamblers who played against them,

if you able to practice this and managed to make it more realistic from time to time, you really got the opportunities to collect winning stats each time you made a call.
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May 12, 2021, 10:57:26 AM
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You should try to play mostly with different opponents.Just like the NSA can track anyone using TOR browser and having the same browsing habits,if you play with the same opponents always they will start to read your play patterns.I used to play a lot in Zynga Poker in Facebook a few years ago and I liked the tournaments because usually there were new opponents.

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I am not an expert in poker but the best solution for your problem is just to play randomly, control your emotions and always consistent with your plan. People may read your cards based on your emotion and how you act once you see your card, you may also trick them whenever you got bad cards then make your emotion good or whenever you got good cards then pretend to be not good. You may trick them by doing these things, but you should not do it continuously because they will know to read you as well if you do it continously.

Sticking to a plan and being random is somewhat contradictory, don't you think?  Wink The problem of reading a card by emotion is a thing of the past. Now the conversation is mainly about online poker and programs that collect statistics on players which makes it possible to predict their actions with a greater degree of success.

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In my case, I've learned that unpredictability is complex in such a way that a lot of factors can affect how to anticipate your decisions like timing, momentum and reaction to certain situations. There are a lot of ways to play poker, you can be aggressive or passive but never forget it's still a game of chances. I think being unpredictable comes easy at first set of hands just because it's all fair game until someone builds a stack and by then the real poker game really starts.
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I'd bring this point on AI.

how long do you think for us to have modern AI being able to bluff effectivelly?

DO you remember how google translator was worse like 5 or 10 years ago?
translation is much better now and probably in 10-30 years human translators will have a hard time finding new jobs...

You talk about the past  Smiley
As far as I know, neural networks have long defeated people in limit poker and the only stronghold where people still win is no-limit (although I have not been interested in this topic for a year, and perhaps this bastion has already fallen). And as I understand it, the AI should not be able to bluff to effectively beat people.

interesting, out of curiosity I went searching a bit about it and found these 2 articles:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/05/artificial-intelligence-ethics-poker-libratus-texas-holdem-ai-deepstack
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2019/09/13/artificial-intelligence-masters-the-game-of-poker--what-does-that-mean-for-humans/?sh=331e5695f9ea

so you're right this is not new info since the second article was published in 2019.

so by that we just proved that:
math = true > bluffing
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that may generate some quite interesting paradigms on society...

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May 13, 2021, 02:09:19 PM
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Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Sometimes in the game of poker theory is not enough, but from experience losing and making changes (practice) can have good results in the future.

You are right, playing poker must have tricks and techniques to see the opponent's card, it is very difficult to explain here, without directly involving in the game.

Sometimes google provides a little description of the practice of doing poker betting tricks and techniques, for that this way: 9 Basic Poker Strategy Tips for Beginners, can add a little knowledge in determining the direction of the game of poker, at least to be better than before.
Poker like most things in life requires both, you need to have some theoretic knowledge about the game to be able to play it at a good enough level, but after some time your biggest improvements are going to come from putting in practice that knowledge and this is something that can only be achieved by playing, some of those lessons you will learn are going to be incredibly expensive but at least you are never going to forget them due to the cost you will need to pay.

Correct.

I've seen a video of poker in which Kevin Hart plays poker with his colleagues, and Kevin just acted like the way he does, being a funny guy, and he won the game by bluffs. My conclusion is that in order to make a bluff successful, don't change your facial expression and the way you play your bets in poker even though you have a bad cards for your opponents to be confused on what you have, that's only based on my observation though.
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You talk about the past  Smiley
As far as I know, neural networks have long defeated people in limit poker and the only stronghold where people still win is no-limit (although I have not been interested in this topic for a year, and perhaps this bastion has already fallen). And as I understand it, the AI should not be able to bluff to effectively beat people.

interesting, out of curiosity I went searching a bit about it and found these 2 articles:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/05/artificial-intelligence-ethics-poker-libratus-texas-holdem-ai-deepstack
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bernardmarr/2019/09/13/artificial-intelligence-masters-the-game-of-poker--what-does-that-mean-for-humans/?sh=331e5695f9ea

so you're right this is not new info since the second article was published in 2019.

so by that we just proved that:
math = true > bluffing
?

that may generate some quite interesting paradigms on society...

Sure. I think bluffing has chances at a very short distance, literally a few dozen hands. Any long distance devalues it to zero as the neural network begins to "understand" it. Taking into account the fact that an exposed bluff is almost always a loss, it turns out that bluffing is unprofitable at a distance.
And if you take into account the distances at which professionals are now figuring out who is stronger (hundreds of thousands of hands), everything is pretty obvious.

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May 13, 2021, 09:14:05 PM
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In my case, I've learned that unpredictability is complex in such a way that a lot of factors can affect how to anticipate your decisions like timing, momentum and reaction to certain situations. There are a lot of ways to play poker, you can be aggressive or passive but never forget it's still a game of chances. I think being unpredictable comes easy at first set of hands just because it's all fair game until someone builds a stack and by then the real poker game really starts.
That's right we have to think bigger since there's a lot of ways to become unpredictable but still not a guaranteed way to win since many poker players also practice this one, perhaps most of them. If you want to become unpredictable you must study how to have a self-control and to control every emotion that you can possibly get in gambling, or if you just want to have fun then express your real self and just enjoy the poker game.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

You can do Yoga this is the best way to remain calm and avoid to excited when reading your card, you can also do a lot of practice in front of the mirror and check and study your facial expression if the signs of excitement will show up in your face, you just have to be dedicated and practice a lot, having an expressionless face is not an easy task but you can get it with the right method and practice.

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May 14, 2021, 08:39:19 AM
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Do this, without becoming theatrical. If not, it will give you the clear idea that you are playing a meaningless and logical game, and that way it will be easier for opponents to be able to understand what you are trying to do.
Yeah, I forgot to add that you should look natural when you are doing a poker face because a bad one is a good tell that you are hiding something and makes you easy to predict. Another one I think you can do is play risky all the time but that is if you can handle the stress of playing risky.

Poker face and make it looks natural, that's truly hard to predict what encircling inside your minds.

Lots of gamblers practice this and make it realistic, they use this skills to take advantage with those gamblers who played against them,

if you able to practice this and managed to make it more realistic from time to time, you really got the opportunities to collect winning stats each time you made a call.

Guys, from your posts it looks like there is no such thing as online poker, where no one can see your face expression or read your body language. What about those online games where people are winning millions, and what about the fact that many of those who are good at online games are good at live ones too?

I don't want to sound like I know everything, I can be wrong, but I personally think that there are things in poker that much more important than body language. Those are: time taken for making a call/raise compared to your usual time for making a call/raise/fold and the size of your current bet compared to previous sizes. ... If you can read others by those traits, and if you are good at concealing yours, you win.

Again, I know I can be wrong. And this is a very interesting topic to me, so I'm open to discussion. Smiley

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

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Yeah, but you are right still the over smart poker champion will use such a category to bluff you so it's too much complicated if you take lot of things into account while predicting the oppositions cards.

So play your game at best while use bluff occasionally.
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You just have to play randomly and bluff randomly.

Even when people think they are acting randomly, they are still not really acting randomly but following a pattern.

Play this game and test how random you really are:

https://www.expunctis.com/2019/03/07/Not-so-random.html

When you keep clicking the randomize button you'll see that your balance going higher. And whenever you decide to press left-right yourself, your balance will go down. People are not really random. Machines can guess your next move easily. If machines can, other people also can.

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May 14, 2021, 02:07:35 PM
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Even when people think they are acting randomly, they are still not really acting randomly but following a pattern.

Play this game and test how random you really are:

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When you keep clicking the randomize button you'll see that your balance going higher. And whenever you decide to press left-right yourself, your balance will go down. People are not really random. Machines can guess your next move easily. If machines can, other people also can.

This game is too basic, with only 2 options, it has a 50% chance of getting it right, so it is easy to guess more than half of our options.
In a wide range of variations, it is difficult for a PC to predict our unpredictability.

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May 14, 2021, 02:47:26 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

Being afraid of giving away takes during poker games is real issue. That is probably why at the moment is the best time to play poker on casino. Wearing a face mask will hide most our expression, if on top of that we wear a scarf, hat and glasses it should be impossible for anybody to read us. But if we do that than it is very likely that other players will do so too. Being able to show expressions is a good thing in my opinion because we can look excited when actually having a bad hand. As long as we can control our emotions we can make good use of them. Then again when playing online all these points are invalid.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

Being afraid of giving away takes during poker games is real issue. That is probably why at the moment is the best time to play poker on casino. Wearing a face mask will hide most our expression, if on top of that we wear a scarf, hat and glasses it should be impossible for anybody to read us. But if we do that than it is very likely that other players will do so too. Being able to show expressions is a good thing in my opinion because we can look excited when actually having a bad hand. As long as we can control our emotions we can make good use of them. Then again when playing online all these points are invalid.
In addition, in the game of poker at least you will not always get the same opponent, so even though you have a lot of practice which of course has a lot of experience but still, with opponents who are never the same you have to be vigilant in playing poker. Being unpredictable is a difficult thing, because after all you always have the feeling that it will pop into the look on your face and eyes when you see the card in hand.

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May 19, 2021, 12:03:24 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

Being afraid of giving away takes during poker games is real issue. That is probably why at the moment is the best time to play poker on casino. Wearing a face mask will hide most our expression, if on top of that we wear a scarf, hat and glasses it should be impossible for anybody to read us. But if we do that than it is very likely that other players will do so too. Being able to show expressions is a good thing in my opinion because we can look excited when actually having a bad hand. As long as we can control our emotions we can make good use of them. Then again when playing online all these points are invalid.

yes, it's even harder to learn how to hide expressions without the mask/glass/scarf etc... and how to be more aware of our body expression,
quite a challenge

studying body language and observing it on other people doing everyday movements and actions is also quite rewarding for this.

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May 19, 2021, 12:22:35 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

and not to mentioned those who have a great instincts , Because i have a friend that is good at it, he even winning in gambling using his inner instincts .

But yeah body language and facial expression is one tool to find your opponents weaknesses .

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Poker is a Mind game , if you don't know how to handle your desire in winning then you will surely lose , because how many times that you need to pretend to be smart while letting them off your guard.
I know Poker for long time and believe me , majority of players lose than wins.
Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 
practicing while in actual gambling will save your asses mate.

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No one wants to discuss online poker here?  Smiley

I'm asking you, guys, please read my post above, and tell what you think.

The thing is that that's my own theory, I've never heard or read about it, and it's very interesting to me what other poker players think about it.

I know many people think that only live casino poker is the "real poker", because only there you can utilize your skills of reading other people's emotions and hiding yours, but then how to explain the fact that, I'll cite my post from above, "many of those who are good at online games are good at live ones too"?

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May 19, 2021, 01:33:13 PM
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Guys, from your posts it looks like there is no such thing as online poker, where no one can see your face expression or read your body language. What about those online games where people are winning millions, and what about the fact that many of those who are good at online games are good at live ones too?

I don't want to sound like I know everything, I can be wrong, but I personally think that there are things in poker that much more important than body language. Those are: time taken for making a call/raise compared to your usual time for making a call/raise/fold and the size of your current bet compared to previous sizes. ... If you can read others by those traits, and if you are good at concealing yours, you win.

Again, I know I can be wrong. And this is a very interesting topic to me, so I'm open to discussion. Smiley


Of course, there is online poker. For professional players they serve more to train strategies. Of course, they also try to make money, but usually the goal is to train. For amateurs, it can be a way of trying to earn some money.

Now online poker is more difficult and easier at the same time. On the one hand, it is more difficult to understand the strategy that opponents use, and to discover patterns. On the other hand, it is played with amateurs that is easier to win.

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May 20, 2021, 12:54:09 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

and not to mentioned those who have a great instincts , Because i have a friend that is good at it, he even winning in gambling using his inner instincts .

But yeah body language and facial expression is one tool to find your opponents weaknesses .

that is cool!
and quite hard to practice. in reality there's not really a way to practice it besides connecting to yourself, observing and trusting your gut
some people have a good radar, almost like they could smell fear or other emotions.

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May 22, 2021, 09:35:06 AM
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Even when people think they are acting randomly, they are still not really acting randomly but following a pattern.

Play this game and test how random you really are:

https://www.expunctis.com/2019/03/07/Not-so-random.html

When you keep clicking the randomize button you'll see that your balance going higher. And whenever you decide to press left-right yourself, your balance will go down. People are not really random. Machines can guess your next move easily. If machines can, other people also can.

This game is too basic, with only 2 options, it has a 50% chance of getting it right, so it is easy to guess more than half of our options.
In a wide range of variations, it is difficult for a PC to predict our unpredictability.

If it is too basic I'd like to view a screenshot (or better, a video sample) showing how you beat the game. Since it is so simple... you should be able to beat it. Smiley This game might be a basic one but AI is getting better every second. I don't know how good AI is right now but I expect it to be better than you think. It is a huge field now many devs are working on it.

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May 22, 2021, 03:20:31 PM
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Being unpredictable and sometimes follow confidence can win you some bets. I don't know whether you guys aware of the game Rummy but it is all about looking confident even when you get the worst cards during the distribution of cards. I have played almost all the online games like Poker, Runny, BJ,etc and I think sometimes in games like Rummy you just need to look confident (especially when you are playing it live in-person) because the other plays have the option to throw cards for a minimal loss and I have won some games where I ended up having the worst cards but the other plays threw their card believing that I have got some of the best ones.

Being unpredictable works quite good but in games where the opponent is the house, you will most likely never have an advantage doing such tricks, these things work when you are playing against players.
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Now online poker is more difficult and easier at the same time. On the one hand, it is more difficult to understand the strategy that opponents use, and to discover patterns. On the other hand, it is played with amateurs that is easier to win.


If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

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May 22, 2021, 03:43:51 PM
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If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

It is true that probability and statistics are fundamental. But there are many variants and strategies. So it is necessary to be able to read the opponent, to try to understand what this strategy is. If you stick to the statistics, the chances of losing increase. We cannot forget that a human player can be unpredictable.

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May 22, 2021, 04:48:18 PM
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If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

It is true that probability and statistics are fundamental. But there are many variants and strategies. So it is necessary to be able to read the opponent, to try to understand what this strategy is. If you stick to the statistics, the chances of losing increase. We cannot forget that a human player can be unpredictable.
Yeah, depending on statistics whether you are playing poker or making a sports match bet, does not increase your chances of winning most of the time. Especially, in Poker reading your opponent is the key. It might sound unrealistic, but by the time you will start automatically feel that you will start to read him by his emotions, facial expressions, anxiety, change in this voice tone, or even fear.

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Now online poker is more difficult and easier at the same time. On the one hand, it is more difficult to understand the strategy that opponents use, and to discover patterns. On the other hand, it is played with amateurs that is easier to win.


If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

The correct way of bluffing is very hard, sure we can just try to bluff with any two cars, but the risk of running into the nuts is very high like that. We need to block atleast some part of the nuts with our hand to have a plausible bluff. I agree that professional poker players rely heavily on statistics, so bluff against them is extra hard. Too many times a good poker player will just call you down with Ace or King high, because the chances that you both miss the flop, turn and river is quite high. On Youtube it seems so cool to watch the best off bluff compilations, but these are very rare hands. I think its better to just play the best hands and don't try to rely too much on bluffing.
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I think playing poker requires a good eye and knowledge of the statistics and probability of the outcome of the card it's hard to just imagine what kind of card you will get. We've seen some of them told it depends on the outcome base on the Dealers shuffling the cards. As for now, I've seen a lot of casinos in every game they get a different set of cards to prevent the doubt of their players. These are just things I observe on the opinion of people I know and my perspective too. Still, it's a risk-reward game the higher you risk the higher chance to win or lose.

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Replying to the OP

The first and essential thing is to know how to show poker face

Second is to know your own habits (when affected by emotions), people are tend to show habitual actions depending on their emotions and this was observable especially when in the gambling table.

Third is to gain experience. You can't just learn it by day (Though, there are people who can do it almost the first time) but nevertheless, in our case, practice makes perfect.

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Third is to gain experience. You can't just learn it by day (Though, there are people who can do it almost the first time) but nevertheless, in our case, practice makes perfect.
Yes,  many people are so lucky for their first winning.  But in fact,  they may be very hard to get that kind of winning later.  Does it only a matter of luck and unlucku or it has also relation to the platform,  that let beginner to win for the first bet? 

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May 22, 2021, 07:34:50 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Practice makes perfect that's the only way to do that, but even if a player is good at hiding his expression and his feelings, experienced poker players are also good at reading your body language, so it's not only your facial expression but also your body language that you need to hide for you be competitive in poker games. 

Being afraid of giving away takes during poker games is real issue. That is probably why at the moment is the best time to play poker on casino. Wearing a face mask will hide most our expression, if on top of that we wear a scarf, hat and glasses it should be impossible for anybody to read us. But if we do that than it is very likely that other players will do so too. Being able to show expressions is a good thing in my opinion because we can look excited when actually having a bad hand. As long as we can control our emotions we can make good use of them. Then again when playing online all these points are invalid.

yes, it's even harder to learn how to hide expressions without the mask/glass/scarf etc... and how to be more aware of our body expression,
quite a challenge

studying body language and observing it on other people doing everyday movements and actions is also quite rewarding for this.

In other words, playing poker of course doesn't always focus on the cards we have, everyone at the table will pay attention to the expressions of their playing opponents. this will damage our concentration in playing, if so of course offline poker games will not be fun, and the best option is to choose to play poker online.

hahahahah no way!
I find way more enjoyment on playing poker offline than online.
Online is more about the game, and only.
offline adds many other dimensions, making it much more challenge imo

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May 26, 2021, 09:29:43 AM
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Now online poker is more difficult and easier at the same time. On the one hand, it is more difficult to understand the strategy that opponents use, and to discover patterns. On the other hand, it is played with amateurs that is easier to win.


If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

I disagree. If it were so, poker bots would be winning all the time, because surely they "know" those things, probability and statistics, better than any human poker player.

The more I play poker, the more I realize that there's something else, maybe something that may look a bit irrational even, that is very important to win in poker. I said "may look' because in fact it's not irrational. Your actions may look irrational to your opponents, while you do it to be unpredictable, that's all.

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Poker face and make it looks natural, that's truly hard to predict what encircling inside your minds.

Lots of gamblers practice this and make it realistic, they use this skills to take advantage with those gamblers who played against them,

if you able to practice this and managed to make it more realistic from time to time, you really got the opportunities to collect winning stats each time you made a call.
Besides the traditional poker face, aspiring pro poker players, mind games can be a good way to make things much more complicated for your opponents because they will be second guessing everytime since you employ two ways to confuse your opponent.
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Second is to know your own habits (when affected by emotions), people are tend to show habitual actions depending on their emotions and this was observable especially when in the gambling table.


Sometimes we just don't know our own habits, sometimes our habits have unwittingly been learned by our opponents. Especially if we can't control
our emotions when playing gambling, this is very clear to our opponents and usually our steps are easy to predict. Therefore it is necessary to
understand ourselves, after that exercise to control emotions is very important. That way we can make changes to our habits, so this will surprise
our opponents, this is what ultimately makes us unpredictable.

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If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.
I disagree. If it were so, poker bots would be winning all the time, because surely they "know" those things, probability and statistics, better than any human poker player.

The more I play poker, the more I realize that there's something else, maybe something that may look a bit irrational even, that is very important to win in poker. I said "may look' because in fact it's not irrational. Your actions may look irrational to your opponents, while you do it to be unpredictable, that's all.
This. Statistics and probability? Yep, they're most likely needed, though it's more of actually memorizing the cards that are possible for you to lose against while pairing up with the cards the dealer has already placed. That's just determining your odds though, and it's not like you can always fold when your cards are bad, or heck even at the middle range good cards. Bluffing is needed to guarantee a win in those cases, since it adds what @betwrong said, unpredictability.

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This. Statistics and probability? Yep, they're most likely needed, though it's more of actually memorizing the cards that are possible for you to lose against while pairing up with the cards the dealer has already placed. That's just determining your odds though, and it's not like you can always fold when your cards are bad, or heck even at the middle range good cards. Bluffing is needed to guarantee a win in those cases, since it adds what @betwrong said, unpredictability.
Statistics and probability aren't on the realm of what the player can control so I don't think that it isn't really needed, you are right about memorizing the cards since a process of elimination is going to help you deduce the possibility but you are only limited to your cards and the cards shown by the dealer. Bluffing is good but you don't have to look like a try hard doing it because they pros will see through you when you are bluffing way too hard.
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This. Statistics and probability? Yep, they're most likely needed, though it's more of actually memorizing the cards that are possible for you to lose against while pairing up with the cards the dealer has already placed. That's just determining your odds though, and it's not like you can always fold when your cards are bad, or heck even at the middle range good cards. Bluffing is needed to guarantee a win in those cases, since it adds what @betwrong said, unpredictability.
Statistics and probability aren't on the realm of what the player can control so I don't think that it isn't really needed, you are right about memorizing the cards since a process of elimination is going to help you deduce the possibility but you are only limited to your cards and the cards shown by the dealer. Bluffing is good but you don't have to look like a try hard doing it because they pros will see through you when you are bluffing way too hard.
Memorizing the cards will not easy to do, especially if a person that can not memorize them. Not many people can learn about poker, but they can learn more details about the game. They can also learn about how to bluff the opponent to have a chance to win. But that will be difficult if their opponent will have more skills than them because their chance to win will not be bigger. But I think if they can often to playing poker game, sooner or later, they can try to bluff and memorize the card of the opponent
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Poker face and make it looks natural, that's truly hard to predict what encircling inside your minds.

Lots of gamblers practice this and make it realistic, they use this skills to take advantage with those gamblers who played against them,

if you able to practice this and managed to make it more realistic from time to time, you really got the opportunities to collect winning stats each time you made a call.
Besides the traditional poker face, aspiring pro poker players, mind games can be a good way to make things much more complicated for your opponents because they will be second guessing everytime since you employ two ways to confuse your opponent.

Strategy that's being created from experienced that they've already got while playing this game.

Just like what you have said, mind games gives hardship with your opponents. Not giving them any idea what inside you and with the
help of your emotion control, it will give you some good edge not being predictable. If you combine things out it will give you the outcome that you are aiming.
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This. Statistics and probability? Yep, they're most likely needed, though it's more of actually memorizing the cards that are possible for you to lose against while pairing up with the cards the dealer has already placed. That's just determining your odds though, and it's not like you can always fold when your cards are bad, or heck even at the middle range good cards. Bluffing is needed to guarantee a win in those cases, since it adds what @betwrong said, unpredictability.
Statistics and probability aren't on the realm of what the player can control so I don't think that it isn't really needed, you are right about memorizing the cards since a process of elimination is going to help you deduce the possibility but you are only limited to your cards and the cards shown by the dealer. Bluffing is good but you don't have to look like a try hard doing it because they pros will see through you when you are bluffing way too hard.
Memorizing the cards will not easy to do, especially if a person that can not memorize them. Not many people can learn about poker, but they can learn more details about the game. They can also learn about how to bluff the opponent to have a chance to win. But that will be difficult if their opponent will have more skills than them because their chance to win will not be bigger. But I think if they can often to playing poker game, sooner or later, they can try to bluff and memorize the card of the opponent

I don't think that memorising cards is needed in poker. We won't really see the cards of our opponents, except of the table is being streamed online, that we could see other cards but this usually happens with a 5 to 30 minute delay. The only thing that we need is a poker strategy to play by, for that we will need to be able to calculate our chances of winning. This should be not so difficult if we don't multiple table many games. But since many people like to play fast online with many table at once, it makes more sense to create a chart for our hands we play with and our hands we fold. Such an strategy makes it very easy for us to decide which hands we want to focus on.
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Memorizing the cards will not easy to do, especially if a person that can not memorize them. Not many people can learn about poker, but they can learn more details about the game. They can also learn about how to bluff the opponent to have a chance to win. But that will be difficult if their opponent will have more skills than them because their chance to win will not be bigger. But I think if they can often to playing poker game, sooner or later, they can try to bluff and memorize the card of the opponent
It isn't easy but if you put your mind into something, there is a high chance that you can do it. Bluffing is an easy skill to learn but the problem is how can you make yourself look convincing, you have to look like you don't know a thing about bluffing and at the same time know about bluffing without the opponent knowing the latter.
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Now online poker is more difficult and easier at the same time. On the one hand, it is more difficult to understand the strategy that opponents use, and to discover patterns. On the other hand, it is played with amateurs that is easier to win.


If you mean bluffing, then real poker player will not fall very often on that trick as long as there is strong base on the card statistics which they are analysing and practicing many times. I don't know what kind of strategy you are pertaining but being good on probability and statistics is the only strategy needed to win on poker. Bluffing is just an add-ons and will not gonna work against professional player.

I disagree. If it were so, poker bots would be winning all the time, because surely they "know" those things, probability and statistics, better than any human poker player.

The more I play poker, the more I realize that there's something else, maybe something that may look a bit irrational even, that is very important to win in poker. I said "may look' because in fact it's not irrational. Your actions may look irrational to your opponents, while you do it to be unpredictable, that's all.

totally agree with @Betwrong here
somehow I wouldn't even classify poker as gambling, it's way closer to a skill game damn to betting, as an example
a lot more in play than just luck

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I don't think that memorising cards is needed in poker. We won't really see the cards of our opponents, except of the table is being streamed online, that we could see other cards but this usually happens with a 5 to 30 minute delay. The only thing that we need is a poker strategy to play by, for that we will need to be able to calculate our chances of winning. This should be not so difficult if we don't multiple table many games. But since many people like to play fast online with many table at once, it makes more sense to create a chart for our hands we play with and our hands we fold. Such an strategy makes it very easy for us to decide which hands we want to focus on.
Each people will have their way to play poker so perhaps, memorizing cards will be one of many ways for them to win. Calculating the chances of winning is the other way to help us to win but not many of them can calculate with the right. We could miss the calculation if we don't have much experience playing poker card games.

It isn't easy but if you put your mind into something, there is a high chance that you can do it. Bluffing is an easy skill to learn but the problem is how can you make yourself look convincing, you have to look like you don't know a thing about bluffing and at the same time know about bluffing without the opponent knowing the latter.
Perhaps, I can try it someday, but I hope that will works for me since I don't much about poker cards. But I think I can bluff someone and make myself look convincing in front of them because I can do that in the other things Grin

Pretend to be a newbie can the other way for us to trick another player, so they don't expect that we have skills to win the game. I think that can work for people who want to hide their skills in poker.
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In the big tournaments, everything you do while playing poker will be noticed and the players have the deep analysis about your character and behaving on table so yes it is very important to be unpredictable and never show any kind of emotions when you get good combination of cards or the worst one then only you can bluff with the bet amount.
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In the big tournaments, everything you do while playing poker will be noticed and the players have the deep analysis about your character and behaving on table so yes it is very important to be unpredictable and never show any kind of emotions when you get good combination of cards or the worst one then only you can bluff with the bet amount.

When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

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In the big tournaments, everything you do while playing poker will be noticed and the players have the deep analysis about your character and behaving on table so yes it is very important to be unpredictable and never show any kind of emotions when you get good combination of cards or the worst one then only you can bluff with the bet amount.

Most of those gamblers around you are just simply trying to read you out.

Some might try to give you the win that you wanted as they are trying to assess your strategy, it's best to have a plain expressions and keep it that way, experienced gamblers most of the time take a little longer assessing you.
Winning with this people is like palying against yourself, as in any moment you'll be catch offguard and snatch the win from your hands.
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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.

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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.

really cool indeed!
but there's that, sometimes its hard to emulate chaotic behavior in a controlled way, so we can become predictable again even by trying to be unpredictable.

another exercise that helps me is imagining I'm out of my body, like a camera, looking at the situation, and how I'm behaving there.

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May 27, 2021, 01:29:42 PM
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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.
A really fun way.  Your acting teacher is great and he is absolutely right.  Hiding under such masks, you can certainly fool the enemy several times, but then it will no longer work.  They will figure you out.  True, if it is already possible to disrupt the winnings on this scheme, then it is good, but you must have time to leave. 
I think that this method does not work among professional players, they know the language of facial expressions very well and how less experienced players use it.  So this advice is good for playing poker with your family or close friends.  You can definitely win against them.

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May 27, 2021, 01:34:56 PM
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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.
Yeah, Using the same expression on the same card situation could make you even more predictable but putting different reactions or random reactions to a card could somehow make you more unpredictable.

There are people who are very good at reading their opponent's body language, They are very good at noticing some unconscious habits so, if I got opponents like this I am trying my best to have a poker face look or try to show random habits that I am not really doing.
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In the big tournaments, everything you do while playing poker will be noticed and the players have the deep analysis about your character and behaving on table so yes it is very important to be unpredictable and never show any kind of emotions when you get good combination of cards or the worst one then only you can bluff with the bet amount.

When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.
So you are being predictable, right? This strategy will work few times but once the players get used to your condition then they can find out which combination of card with your bluffing strategy itself that is why showing no emotions whether you have good cards or bad cards is the best ever strategy at the competitive level of poker.
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May 28, 2021, 01:37:20 PM
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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.
Still, his imagination can not always work many times, especially if he meets a pro poker player because the pro poker player will know if someone is trying to bluff him or have a good card. It is hard to play with our expressions because we can forget that we are bluffing them, especially if we are really sure with our cards.

But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.
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May 28, 2021, 03:07:23 PM
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But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.

In addition, we must not forget that the other players also have cards in hand, and they can really have a good game. That's why poker is so unpredictable.

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But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.

In addition, we must not forget that the other players also have cards in hand, and they can really have a good game. That's why poker is so unpredictable.

Interestingly, poker is always unpredictable gambling game, there are many possibilities that can happen in the game of poker. Depending on
the cards in each player's have in their hand that ultimately determines the result, therefore a strategy is needed that makes the opponent
confused and ultimately influenced to make mistakes. One strategy that can be done is how to make our expression difficult to read against
the opponent. And it takes practice to adjust our expressions, so that we can really make us unpredictable by the opponent.

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When I play poker, I imagine to myself, I just ate a very sour lemon.  

My opponents are trying to guess what I am thinking, but they are confused by my twisted face.  

They think I have bad cards in my hands.  However, it is not!  I have winning combinations of cards and my expression is just a bluff!  This trick was taught to me by my personal acting teacher.  

At the same time, when I have bad cards in my hands, then I act differently.  I imagine myself eating a meringue cake.  I have a blissful and slightly silly expression on my face.  

My opponents think that I have great cards and lose.

An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.
Yeah, Using the same expression on the same card situation could make you even more predictable but putting different reactions or random reactions to a card could somehow make you more unpredictable.

There are people who are very good at reading their opponent's body language, They are very good at noticing some unconscious habits so, if I got opponents like this I am trying my best to have a poker face look or try to show random habits that I am not really doing.

yes, like that story where the young guy always lays the village yelling that wolfs were coming, and it was always a lie.
then when it finally happened nobody believed him.

Bob Marley used to say:
You can fool some people, some times, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

bringing some randomness to your bluffs will help you on the game, for sure.

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I don't think that memorising cards is needed in poker. We won't really see the cards of our opponents, except of the table is being streamed online, that we could see other cards but this usually happens with a 5 to 30 minute delay. The only thing that we need is a poker strategy to play by, for that we will need to be able to calculate our chances of winning. This should be not so difficult if we don't multiple table many games. But since many people like to play fast online with many table at once, it makes more sense to create a chart for our hands we play with and our hands we fold. Such an strategy makes it very easy for us to decide which hands we want to focus on.
Each people will have their way to play poker so perhaps, memorizing cards will be one of many ways for them to win. Calculating the chances of winning is the other way to help us to win but not many of them can calculate with the right. We could miss the calculation if we don't have much experience playing poker card games.


Talking about Texas hold 'em, there's really nothing to memorize there. If you mean you can memorize with what cards a particular player was raising/calling in that rare case when he/she decides to show cards when finally folding or losing, those cards are most likely they want you to memorize, to mislead you about their way of playing.

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An interesting strategy. As long as you don't go overboard, it can work.
Now you can not abuse this strategy, otherwise it can become a standard, and easily perceived by opponents.

Exactly. You can't play with the same strategy all the time. And when I'm saying this, I don't mean months or weeks. No. You can't play with the same strategy even within one 3-4 hour tournament, if you want to finish ITM.

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I don't think that memorising cards is needed in poker. We won't really see the cards of our opponents, except of the table is being streamed online, that we could see other cards but this usually happens with a 5 to 30 minute delay. The only thing that we need is a poker strategy to play by, for that we will need to be able to calculate our chances of winning. This should be not so difficult if we don't multiple table many games. But since many people like to play fast online with many table at once, it makes more sense to create a chart for our hands we play with and our hands we fold. Such an strategy makes it very easy for us to decide which hands we want to focus on.
Each people will have their way to play poker so perhaps, memorizing cards will be one of many ways for them to win. Calculating the chances of winning is the other way to help us to win but not many of them can calculate with the right. We could miss the calculation if we don't have much experience playing poker card games.


Talking about Texas hold 'em, there's really nothing to memorize there. If you mean you can memorize with what cards a particular player was raising/calling in that rare case when he/she decides to show cards when finally folding or losing, those cards are most likely they want you to memorize, to mislead you about their way of playing.
If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.
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<...>
If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.

would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

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If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.

would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?
Rules are just the same but on how the game is played in some essence would really be different and you can tell it out directly on just by seeing both situations.

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If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.

would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?
I guess so. The technique can be the same, but the tricks might not the same because we can't bluff the other opponent directly as we can't see their face. You can use the technique that you already usually used, and you can have a chance to win.

I think the rules can be the same because poker games will have the same rules, whether offline or online. Perhaps, each offline and online casino can additional rules in the table, but the basic rules will be the same.
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would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.

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May 31, 2021, 10:55:12 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Not an expert but usually in order to avoid being read by the other player is that what comes to my mind first that's the thing I will do, an example it comes to my mind that I will bluff then that's what i'm going to do. I'm not quite sure if that would work to other players but I think you should try to discover your own way not to be read by others.

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Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.

Many didn't mind really the bluffs at all in online, they prefer to focus mostly in their cards when online and decide depending only on their cards. Unlike in real casinos that there are many aspect too look at like their previous game, the confidence of player in betting or playing or the aura the player is portraying. The only difference poker can be see how we analyse the game is since we all have our own way of playing these games.

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Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.

Many didn't mind really the bluffs at all in online, they prefer to focus mostly in their cards when online and decide depending only on their cards. Unlike in real casinos that there are many aspect too look at like their previous game, the confidence of player in betting or playing or the aura the player is portraying. The only difference poker can be see how we analyse the game is since we all have our own way of playing these games.

I think one aspect why online and offline bluffing is so different is that you can touch your chips. When sitting in an offline casino we have all our money in front of us, to raise it go all in we actually need to move our chips in the middle. While online we just click a button, I find that the connection to the money behind the gambling is getting a bit lost when playing online. That is also why bluffing works better in a physical casino in my opinion.
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May 31, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
The only technique that will work is to have a poker-faced and it can be done by practice and through meditation, I have seen people who practice yoga and they can have no feeling or expression at all if they want, practice makes perfect if you practice over a thousand rounds and you get to use having no expression at all, you can achieve that if you are dedicated to your craft.

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would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.


yes! totally agree
level of betting and also repetitive behavior or not, even on online poker sometimes you can tell after playing a few tables if the person usually bluffs more or not by the way they bet/fold and frequency

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June 02, 2021, 08:19:39 AM
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~ Talking about Texas hold 'em, there's really nothing to memorize there. If you mean you can memorize with what cards a particular player was raising/calling in that rare case when he/she decides to show cards when finally folding or losing, those cards are most likely they want you to memorize, to mislead you about their way of playing.
If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

I've never played poker on Facebook, but I'm pretty sure if it's Texas hold 'em then the rules are the same. I still see no point in memorizing cards, sorry. If you could share just one example where memorizing was helpful, that would be great.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.

Bet sizing can be much more important than your face expression. An additional, although weaker factor, is time taken before your action. Both, online a offline poker, are equally suitable for these "tricks". Smiley

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The only technique that will work is to have a poker-faced and it can be done by practice and through meditation, I have seen people who practice yoga and they can have no feeling or expression at all if they want, practice makes perfect if you practice over a thousand rounds and you get to use having no expression at all, you can achieve that if you are dedicated to your craft.
I still don't know what a poker face is, is not having an expression what is meant by a poker face? I didn't know there was this term but anyway, I don't think you should practice yoga because in this case at least you can control yourself, don't panic and can keep your breathing steady. So that way, I'm sure when you do it often you will also be able to apply an expressionless face in poker but still, it seems like it's something difficult in poker because the tension in the game is bound to happen.

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The only technique that will work is to have a poker-faced and it can be done by practice and through meditation, I have seen people who practice yoga and they can have no feeling or expression at all if they want, practice makes perfect if you practice over a thousand rounds and you get to use having no expression at all, you can achieve that if you are dedicated to your craft.
I still don't know what a poker face is, is not having an expression what is meant by a poker face? I didn't know there was this term but anyway, I don't think you should practice yoga because in this case at least you can control yourself, don't panic and can keep your breathing steady. So that way, I'm sure when you do it often you will also be able to apply an expressionless face in poker but still, it seems like it's something difficult in poker because the tension in the game is bound to happen.

I do not see a non-professional using meditation or yoga in order to play better at poker. I do see professionals doing it on a constant basis, because the sums of money they have to bet on are sometimes life-changing and it takes a special personality to stay there without blinking. I also wonder sometimes if they are able to lie to a detector or send a false signal on purpose to other players. And all that at the same time that they are watching the rivals while appearing not to be watching the rivals. Perhaps enough to drive anyone insane?

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June 02, 2021, 09:08:31 AM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I'm sure you are talking about Real life Poker right? because it is stupid to expect about our emotion on bluffing to be known by the computer online  Grin

Anyway , There is no such thing unless you know how to divert your emotion from tense to happy, and from normal to abnormal.
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June 02, 2021, 03:48:05 PM
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~ Talking about Texas hold 'em, there's really nothing to memorize there. If you mean you can memorize with what cards a particular player was raising/calling in that rare case when he/she decides to show cards when finally folding or losing, those cards are most likely they want you to memorize, to mislead you about their way of playing.
If Texas hold'em in Facebook, that is one old game that I played before with my friends. I can't memorize the cards, but many of my friends can do that. Perhaps, that can work for some people and not for others because playing poker games needs many things to win, and that is not easy.

I've never played poker on Facebook, but I'm pretty sure if it's Texas hold 'em then the rules are the same. I still see no point in memorizing cards, sorry. If you could share just one example where memorizing was helpful, that would be great.

If that is poker online, we can not use the way we use offline poker, and we need to find another way to trick the opponent.

Bet sizing can be much more important than your face expression. An additional, although weaker factor, is time taken before your action. Both, online a offline poker, are equally suitable for these "tricks". Smiley

Maybe not memorizing but calculating odds can help.
depending on the cards on the table and on your hand you can try and calculate the odds of other players to have better hands than you.
definitely not easy, but feasible.

nice trick on checking response times of users.

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June 02, 2021, 04:42:25 PM
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The only technique that will work is to have a poker-faced and it can be done by practice and through meditation, I have seen people who practice yoga and they can have no feeling or expression at all if they want, practice makes perfect if you practice over a thousand rounds and you get to use having no expression at all, you can achieve that if you are dedicated to your craft.
I still don't know what a poker face is, is not having an expression what is meant by a poker face? I didn't know there was this term but anyway, I don't think you should practice yoga because in this case at least you can control yourself, don't panic and can keep your breathing steady. So that way, I'm sure when you do it often you will also be able to apply an expressionless face in poker but still, it seems like it's something difficult in poker because the tension in the game is bound to happen.

I do not see a non-professional using meditation or yoga in order to play better at poker. I do see professionals doing it on a constant basis, because the sums of money they have to bet on are sometimes life-changing and it takes a special personality to stay there without blinking. I also wonder sometimes if they are able to lie to a detector or send a false signal on purpose to other players. And all that at the same time that they are watching the rivals while appearing not to be watching the rivals. Perhaps enough to drive anyone insane?

Not an easy task but there are some people who have that capabilities., experienced gives the extra edge controlling the emotions that they've wanted their competitors will think about them,.

A matter of time that you spend from this venue of activity to master your emotions and controlling both your physical and your  mental  capabilities.

Being unpredictable is a skill that can  learn while you are enjoying playing inside the casino.

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June 02, 2021, 04:49:29 PM
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Being predictable is a state that you rather not be in, it not only reduces your chances of winning in a good game of poker at the table and the value to which you stand to win but then, it goes down to putting you at security risk. Being unpredictability an important part of our human existence and it goes straight into the poker too. With it being a reading game, your better not being read.

When you've got the cards right, your emotions sets win, a near win kind of syndrome and as such, no matter how you try to pretend, a part of you keeps being excited and thats the part you have to fight. Perhaps banking your hopes on the anger of a previous lose could jeep that in check. You bluff a few times but not once too many and give a straight stare quite often. It just might help

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June 02, 2021, 05:29:57 PM
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The only technique that will work is to have a poker-faced and it can be done by practice and through meditation, I have seen people who practice yoga and they can have no feeling or expression at all if they want, practice makes perfect if you practice over a thousand rounds and you get to use having no expression at all, you can achieve that if you are dedicated to your craft.
I still don't know what a poker face is, is not having an expression what is meant by a poker face? I didn't know there was this term but anyway, I don't think you should practice yoga because in this case at least you can control yourself, don't panic and can keep your breathing steady. So that way, I'm sure when you do it often you will also be able to apply an expressionless face in poker but still, it seems like it's something difficult in poker because the tension in the game is bound to happen.
Not really, a poker face is simply to not change your behaviors regardless of the hand you are given, so for example if you are a serious player that does not talk a lot on the table and you have a bad hand then you still do not change your betting habits, the way you bet and the time you take to think, basically you need to do everything in the same way despite what you have in your hand, and if you are a talkative and extroverted player then your poker face is to keep being that way regardless of what you have.

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would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.


yes! totally agree
level of betting and also repetitive behavior or not, even on online poker sometimes you can tell after playing a few tables if the person usually bluffs more or not by the way they bet/fold and frequency

Not that much since it would rather be ending up as a hunch unlike if you do able to see the persons face or in physical on where you can presume out that he is really into something on where these things cant really be determined when you do play online.You can determine things between two.
So its up to someones own perception and observation but we can really tell the diffence.

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would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.


yes! totally agree
level of betting and also repetitive behavior or not, even on online poker sometimes you can tell after playing a few tables if the person usually bluffs more or not by the way they bet/fold and frequency

Not that much since it would rather be ending up as a hunch unlike if you do able to see the persons face or in physical on where you can presume out that he is really into something on where these things cant really be determined when you do play online.You can determine things between two.
So its up to someones own perception and observation but we can really tell the diffence.

yes, of course its easier to determine bluffs in real life playing, my point is that it may also be possible on online gaming, even though its harder
way more challenging.

I definitely like playing irl the most but online poker have its nice aspects as well

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Maybe not memorizing but calculating odds can help.
depending on the cards on the table and on your hand you can try and calculate the odds of other players to have better hands than you.
definitely not easy, but feasible.

Calculating the odds of possible outcomes is absolutely necessary when you play poker, and, yes, it's feasible. Experienced poker players do not use calculator for that, it happens automatically in their brain. Of course, since luck is involved, you can know nothing about the odds and still win, but the probability of that is very low.

nice trick on checking response times of users.

Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.

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June 06, 2021, 06:49:35 PM
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would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.


yes! totally agree
level of betting and also repetitive behavior or not, even on online poker sometimes you can tell after playing a few tables if the person usually bluffs more or not by the way they bet/fold and frequency

Not that much since it would rather be ending up as a hunch unlike if you do able to see the persons face or in physical on where you can presume out that he is really into something on where these things cant really be determined when you do play online.You can determine things between two.
So its up to someones own perception and observation but we can really tell the diffence.
Even online we can see some tells about what your opponent may have, and everything has to do with patterns, if you see that your opponent takes most of the time he is given to think about his move but then he begins to make faster decisions then you need to wonder why that is? Most likely this has to do with the fact he has a good hand and it is going to be difficult to beat it and he is so sure of himself that he is not afraid of calling everything that you throw at him, obviously this process is easier to do in real life but there is still ways to get out information out of the betting patterns of your opponents.

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June 08, 2021, 03:34:17 PM
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Maybe not memorizing but calculating odds can help.
depending on the cards on the table and on your hand you can try and calculate the odds of other players to have better hands than you.
definitely not easy, but feasible.

Calculating the odds of possible outcomes is absolutely necessary when you play poker, and, yes, it's feasible. Experienced poker players do not use calculator for that, it happens automatically in their brain. Of course, since luck is involved, you can know nothing about the odds and still win, but the probability of that is very low.

nice trick on checking response times of users.

Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.

so fast decision-takers will have an edge, an advantage
quite interesting

what are your takes on subjective probabilities?
bullshit or possible to calibrate?

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June 09, 2021, 09:49:22 AM
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Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.


Calling with nothing is very risky, we could trust in an Ace high, or a King High but the chances are small for us to win actually. When confronted with a big raise I probably would just fold.

That's what I'm doing most of the time too, but it's not easy to see your stack melting, and your opponents, one by one, outrunning you on the leader-board. You should have the strength to endure it all.


It is not about being unpredictable when we go All in, but the chances are that the opponent has the nuts. Better to fold and win the money back later. If the other guy would check than it is a better position to go All in.

There's always a possibility that they are bluffcatching you, though.

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It's not bullshit, that's for sure. Even if you are starting playing with complete strangers, after 20-30 minutes in the tournament you more or less know their style. Then you can start utilizing your knowledge, and you'll fail only when they'll be acting not in their style, in other words, unpredictably. Now, they can't act unpredictably all the time, because it'll turn their game into an almost purely luck-based one, so, yeah, imo, subjective probabilities are useful.

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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

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June 10, 2021, 12:49:19 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I'm sure you are talking about Real life Poker right? because it is stupid to expect about our emotion on bluffing to be known by the computer online  Grin

Anyway , There is no such thing unless you know how to divert your emotion from tense to happy, and from normal to abnormal.

Probably, you can't show emotions or chat but I think it's possible that you will type and type just to confuse the other players but in real life poker I think changing behavior from time to time would help you not to be read by other players. I think one of my weakness is having trouble reading others maybe they're using that trick to confuse me.

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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


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June 11, 2021, 12:44:39 PM
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.
it will be usfull, i think
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.
it will be usfull, i think

it's not impossible indeed but we would need more in depth posts and better organization for that
I guess

of course one can always find the forum by chance and go deeper from there but I find that most of the people I indicate to check posts here end up not sticking to it.

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June 17, 2021, 09:25:12 AM
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?

Poker is a game were in order to win you should be both, very rational(most of the time) and unpredictable(sometimes). An erratic individual can do just fine in the field of unpredictability, but being good in another field, rationality, can be crucial for achieving good results in the end.

So, Yes, I think most great poker players are living normal life, without being unpredictable, because otherwise it would be very inconvenient for those around. And, yes, they can be more unpredictable in games than those who are unpredictable all the time.

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June 17, 2021, 09:40:41 AM
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But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.

In addition, we must not forget that the other players also have cards in hand, and they can really have a good game. That's why poker is so unpredictable.

Some of the gamblers skills regarding wtih the cards they know the chance and the probability outcome of their opponent's cards which is a good strategy too some of them make a deep knowledge regarding with the poker like statistics some of the gambler trying to win the game by having the outcome of their card some times having confident on higher scorecards gives them the chance of winning not all wage but still a profit.

In my country when they play casual poker they try to always give them a hint to their enemy about what kind of card they have just shown they will win immediately.

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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
I think it would be better to stay focused on keeping your pattern in the game, instead of predicting your opponent's thoughts I guess it will just mess up your strategy. With you having a pattern in the game, you can change the pattern at any time according to the card in hand, if you can master it, I'm sure you will be unpredictable and put you in control of the game.

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June 17, 2021, 11:49:16 AM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .

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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .

Yes, a positive attitude is very important.  A player with a good mood usually wins.  Why?  I don't know ... There is some kind of mysticism in this.  However, this is a fact confirmed by multiple experiments! 

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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.


Emotions are just part of the game, managing it is key in gambling. When playing poker there are two things we need to consider. First, we need to keep our emotions in check so it doesn't affect our decision making. And second, we need to make sure that we don't show our emotions when playing at a table. If our opponents can smell fear the will bluff us.


Emotions always play the big role in playing poker, you can trick your opponents thinking that you are in fear,

Letting them to bluff you and got burned, if you have the capabilities in hiding what's inside you it will serve as good advantage to your side,
though it's not easy as it is, the needs of more experienced and practices from each sits around the table is very important.
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June 17, 2021, 02:41:18 PM
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First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
If they fear losing their money, it is better they do not play gambling and never try to come to the casino. If someone can not deal with his emotions but still play gambling, he will not have a chance to take care of his money instead of losing it for a long time. The important here is always to control the emotion and greed because that will come to them even when they are playing gambling.

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June 17, 2021, 03:24:21 PM
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interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


There does not have to be any kind of correlation between those two aspects, after all poker is a game in which math is heavily involved so for example if you wanted to raise your unpredictability a few points then you could take a look at your watch, while wearing glasses to cover your eyes of course, and if you happen to lay your eyes on the watch at a particular second or seconds then you could bluff or do some other action, this way you become unpredictable as not even you know what you will do.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
When it comes to poker games it's a bit tricky. Developing technique to remain unpredictable requires consistent practice and gambling all most all the time. You just have to practice to be good at what you do and also do them well enough to secure your winnings m


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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.

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returning to the OP's question, because I only knew this topic now...
I believe the best poker players are the ones who don't let any feelings come through. There are those who use facial expressions to bluff, but a good player studies the signs of a liar and can easily notice bluffs after a while.
There is no trick, it's all a matter of practice.

Of course, in a virtual game all that changes, but the emotion of the game is much lower than in a face-to-face game.

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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.
Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.

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You can try to practice poker in an online platform thta have poker like facebook zynga poker. I have been playing there lonf enough and I noticed some people have fallen to bluff moves. When I tried to bluff two or three times within three sessions, they will know that I am bluffing but when I randomly bluff they aren't sure that I have higher chance of winning. Some people might bluff at the same time when you bluff so it's difficult to know if they are bluffing or not. It is very tricky. I sometimes bluff when I have good hand.
Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.

Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

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Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

I think I would have to agree with you because nothing good or beneficiary comes easy. The OP needs to work more on some certain aspects of his strategy and also research more areas that will help to be a good poker. Like you said, nothing comes easy just like a person going to school to get knowledge and certificate that will help to secure a nice paying job.
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Practice makes perfect, successful poker players also started being a loser, they learn their way and have improved their strategy. That's gambling, if you are serious, you need to work for it to improve your skills because in the long run, it's still you who will benefit from being consistent.

I think I would have to agree with you because nothing good or beneficiary comes easy. The OP needs to work more on some certain aspects of his strategy and also research more areas that will help to be a good poker. Like you said, nothing comes easy just like a person going to school to get knowledge and certificate that will help to secure a nice paying job.
Everything in life need effort and time in other to procure a desirable achievement.

curious, I disagree here
sometimes we get lucky and things come easy. But of course this is the exception and not the rule and we can't only wait for luck if we want to achieve success in life.

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June 18, 2021, 06:00:57 PM
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Im having a hard time on making out bluffs and able to read up other opponent through online unlike when you are on face to face on them then its easy to determine
and this is one of the pros when you do play on personally and not online.

Well there are some people who are already get used on bluffing online even though it might not be the same when you are face to face on a player but still a bit effective.

Its just really hard to determine if that one is true or just simple trying to make you fold.
True indeed but there is a situation where you thought that your opponent said that his/her card is bad hand but it is not true so, in my opinion about face to face playing poker determining the opponents bluffing comparison to bluffing in online poker is a bit the same as playing face to face. I wouldn't say that it is easy to determining the bluff in face to face as some people are the first one to bet decent amount that made the other people think that he/she is bluffing, I've tried it myself and it looked like I am bluffing but the truth is that I didn't, I only have an upper hand that has a higher chance to win (my lucky days back then).

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So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


There does not have to be any kind of correlation between those two aspects, after all poker is a game in which math is heavily involved so for example if you wanted to raise your unpredictability a few points then you could take a look at your watch, while wearing glasses to cover your eyes of course, and if you happen to lay your eyes on the watch at a particular second or seconds then you could bluff or do some other action, this way you become unpredictable as not even you know what you will do.

In my opinion, good poker players always know what they are doing(or at least trying to). Being unpredictable doesn't imply being unpredictable to yourself, you should be unpredictable to others. If you don't know what you are doing, what can happen is, by accident, you can make a move that is expected from you, judging by your previous play.

Also, you can be "wearing glasses to cover your eyes" if you like, but it's not necessary, surely not "of course". These days, the same people who are winning in online poker games take top positions in live poker tours too. Which conclusion can be drawn from this fact, in your opinion?

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totally agree with betwrong here

the concept of being impredictabe to yourself starts weird from point 0, imo

and Poker has a lot to do with skill so this information about many being 1st on online AND irl is really interesting

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Using the bluffing strategy may only work well if some of our opponents are beginners, because the purpose of this strategy is to knock down the opponent's mentality and when their mentality falls they will surrender/close the card. So I suggest not using the bluffing strategy for all opponents because this trick is very easy for opponents to guess because almost all poker players use this trick very often.

That's added to the risk factor, understanding those opponents in front of you,

Some experienced players won't allow you to recognized that they are good in bluffing, they'll allow you to win in some point, studying all you've got before burning your strategy, experienced gamblers especially with skills types of gambling understand the value of observing, they'll start creating strategy after learning the type of opponents they've got inside the table.
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Using the bluffing strategy may only work well if some of our opponents are beginners, because the purpose of this strategy is to knock down the opponent's mentality and when their mentality falls they will surrender/close the card. So I suggest not using the bluffing strategy for all opponents because this trick is very easy for opponents to guess because almost all poker players use this trick very often.
Bluffing is only applicable when we play personally face to face but online it will not work that much. Only a few were able to succeed in bluffing in actual so what mores in online. It takes skills to win poker since even our cards were quite good but we didn't do strategize to play it we will not win at all.

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June 21, 2021, 03:54:23 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
When it comes to poker games it's a bit tricky. Developing technique to remain unpredictable requires consistent practice and gambling all most all the time. You just have to practice to be good at what you do and also do them well enough to secure your winnings m


Becoming unpredictable is not as difficult, I just posted a way to do this that is relatively easy to implement, it is just that most people are not good enough to be able to do this, after all poker is a game not only of math but also of patience, and while becoming unpredictable could help your game at the same time most people do not have even the basics covered and instead should concentrate on improving their abilities to read their opponents and the strength of their own game.

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June 21, 2021, 04:52:32 PM
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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Using the bluffing strategy may only work well if some of our opponents are beginners, because the purpose of this strategy is to knock down the opponent's mentality and when their mentality falls they will surrender/close the card. So I suggest not using the bluffing strategy for all opponents because this trick is very easy for opponents to guess because almost all poker players use this trick very often.
Bluffing is only applicable when we play personally face to face but online it will not work that much. Only a few were able to succeed in bluffing in actual so what mores in online. It takes skills to win poker since even our cards were quite good but we didn't do strategize to play it we will not win at all.
You can only bluff through emotes or chat words which can provoke your opponent and that is if you do it online, but it has no effect.
Skills and strategies in playing poker are needed and can read attitude and time when adding bets.
when the cards are good will play time by stretching them while taking turns adding bets, and if not good will be fast when adding bets.
and both are just tricks to make it look otherwise.

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June 21, 2021, 09:56:30 PM
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You can only bluff through emotes or chat words which can provoke your opponent and that is if you do it online, but it has no effect.

There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.

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June 22, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
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You can only bluff through emotes or chat words which can provoke your opponent and that is if you do it online, but it has no effect.

There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.

or they can be lucky and have many good hands, a lot of possibilities

but yes, is common sense now that poker is a game that is way more based on skill than pure luck.

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June 22, 2021, 08:47:14 PM
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There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.

Are you sure these tricks are relevant for online poker? Any professional or regular poker player plays multiple tables and doesn't have the time or attention to keep up with such little things. Maybe this is possible in some kind of tournament when players concentrate their attention at one table, but it still looks doubtful.

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June 23, 2021, 09:13:04 AM
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totally agree with betwrong here

the concept of being impredictabe to yourself starts weird from point 0, imo

and Poker has a lot to do with skill so this information about many being 1st on online AND irl is really interesting

I think to test our theories on this matter in practice we need a poker tournament, something similar to Bitcointalk Poker Series we used to have. It's much better for the research than playing with random people because we can share screenshots of what we really had in this or that case here on bitcointalk. I myself played all of those games, and it has helped me a lot in improving my skills. Read through the threads dedicated to the Series, and you'll see that it was more about having fun and testing theories together than winning money.

I hope poker sites' owners or representatives might bump into this thread and then consider offering us a tournament or series with money added to the prize pool by sponsors. If this doesn't happen, we can think of something else.

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totally agree with betwrong here

the concept of being impredictabe to yourself starts weird from point 0, imo

and Poker has a lot to do with skill so this information about many being 1st on online AND irl is really interesting

I think to test our theories on this matter in practice we need a poker tournament, something similar to Bitcointalk Poker Series we used to have. It's much better for the research than playing with random people because we can share screenshots of what we really had in this or that case here on bitcointalk. I myself played all of those games, and it has helped me a lot in improving my skills. Read through the threads dedicated to the Series, and you'll see that it was more about having fun and testing theories together than winning money.

I hope poker sites' owners or representatives might bump into this thread and then consider offering us a tournament or series with money added to the prize pool by sponsors. If this doesn't happen, we can think of something else.

definitely one of the best suggestions on this thread so far!
amazing idea!

but what is the best poker game on place that would have the structure for a crypto self-organized tournament?

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There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.

Are you sure these tricks are relevant for online poker? Any professional or regular poker player plays multiple tables and doesn't have the time or attention to keep up with such little things. Maybe this is possible in some kind of tournament when players concentrate their attention at one table, but it still looks doubtful.
I personally admit that this strategy can still work in online poker too because after all, bluffs made in online and offline poker will certainly work and not, because there are only two possibilities. Anyway, when the opponent doesn't have good self-confidence then of course it will be easy for success about bluffing strategy and vice versa. So in this strategy, whether the result is successful or not depends on the opponent being faced, so the point is that we must know who the opponent we are facing is, because if the opponent we are facing is a pro gambler then of course a bluffing strategy does not guarantee success.

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June 24, 2021, 11:15:29 PM
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You can only bluff through emotes or chat words which can provoke your opponent and that is if you do it online, but it has no effect.

There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.
The actual and online form can be different but I find bluffing more effective in actual table but not in online.

I think I've done some bluffing through online poker through chat and sending some icons to the other guy on the table but that's when the popularity of poker on facebook was still there, it's still playable today.

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June 24, 2021, 11:55:59 PM
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You can only bluff through emotes or chat words which can provoke your opponent and that is if you do it online, but it has no effect.

There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.


The only way to bluff online is to avoid creating a game pattern.
For the rest, everything that is done has little value: phrases, smiles, etc...
By the way, many who in real poker were able to bluff online can be experts. But, there it is, they can only deceive novices. And even then it's hard, because even the novice can ignore these things.

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June 25, 2021, 05:37:46 PM
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There are actually forms of bluff that can also be applied in online poker thru the actions at the deck or just even by the way a player is betting their chips. Not as effective as applying at the actual table but can still add some spices to the usual strategy when playing in online poker.

That's why you can see gamblers having a good run playing online poker. It means they are also doing some bluff actions aside from their already-knowledge skills.

Are you sure these tricks are relevant for online poker? Any professional or regular poker player plays multiple tables and doesn't have the time or attention to keep up with such little things. Maybe this is possible in some kind of tournament when players concentrate their attention at one table, but it still looks doubtful.
It is true that bluffing is a difficult skill to master especially online as you do not get the full context of what is happening unlike when you can see your opponent, however I suppose the professional with enough practice will be able to keep track of each table at a very fast pace, after all it is known that the more you do something the better you become at it, so even if at the beginning they are not able to do this then eventually they will master it and play several tables as if they were playing just one.

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
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June 26, 2021, 10:12:17 AM
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totally agree with betwrong here

the concept of being impredictabe to yourself starts weird from point 0, imo

and Poker has a lot to do with skill so this information about many being 1st on online AND irl is really interesting

I think to test our theories on this matter in practice we need a poker tournament, something similar to Bitcointalk Poker Series we used to have. It's much better for the research than playing with random people because we can share screenshots of what we really had in this or that case here on bitcointalk. I myself played all of those games, and it has helped me a lot in improving my skills. Read through the threads dedicated to the Series, and you'll see that it was more about having fun and testing theories together than winning money.

I hope poker sites' owners or representatives might bump into this thread and then consider offering us a tournament or series with money added to the prize pool by sponsors. If this doesn't happen, we can think of something else.

definitely one of the best suggestions on this thread so far!
amazing idea!

but what is the best poker game on place that would have the structure for a crypto self-organized tournament?


Different people prefer different games, and there are those who love several poker games equally, but I personally, after playing all of them, have decided to focus on NL Texas Hold'em solely. I love this game so much that I can't fully enjoy playing other games. But that's me. I'm not saying(not even thinking) everyone should love what I love.

So, I will be happy if another game will be sponsored. I will be happy for those who love that game, but I myself will rather not participate.

NL Texas Hold'em forever! Smiley

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June 26, 2021, 01:11:38 PM
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Are you sure these tricks are relevant for online poker? Any professional or regular poker player plays multiple tables and doesn't have the time or attention to keep up with such little things. Maybe this is possible in some kind of tournament when players concentrate their attention at one table, but it still looks doubtful.
It is true that bluffing is a difficult skill to master especially online as you do not get the full context of what is happening unlike when you can see your opponent, however I suppose the professional with enough practice will be able to keep track of each table at a very fast pace, after all it is known that the more you do something the better you become at it, so even if at the beginning they are not able to do this then eventually they will master it and play several tables as if they were playing just one.

Taking into account the fact that all professional online poker players play with special software that shows statistics on opponents, we can say that they have the information necessary to bluff. But I do not consider this a bluff, since this is working with statistics and not emotions - if you know that your opponent folds his hand in certain situations, then of course you will strive to make such a situation, but this is not a bluff in the classical sense of the word.

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June 29, 2021, 08:02:10 PM
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Different people prefer different games, and there are those who love several poker games equally, but I personally, after playing all of them, have decided to focus on NL Texas Hold'em solely. I love this game so much that I can't fully enjoy playing other games. But that's me. I'm not saying(not even thinking) everyone should love what I love.

So, I will be happy if another game will be sponsored. I will be happy for those who love that game, but I myself will rather not participate.

NL Texas Hold'em forever! Smiley
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This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
In the world of poker game, I'm really lost and had no idea about how the game is been played, what discourages me in addition Is because, poker gambling platform usually stops their campaign on their forum because most of the outcome of campaign ran usually go poor, so I have that instinct believe in me that poker games don't interesting.
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This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
In the world of poker game, I'm really lost and had no idea about how the game is been played, what discourages me in addition Is because, poker gambling platform usually stops their campaign on their forum because most of the outcome of campaign ran usually go poor, so I have that instinct believe in me that poker games don't interesting.

There's a high probability of that that it's only for the time being. I personally have confidence in that NL Texas Hold'em, my favorite game, and also other poker games will flourish in the crypto space in the future, and that's when patience of the current not so successful crypto poker sites will pay off. Right now they are just building up their reputation which will come in handy at the proper time.

As for us, poker admirers, thankfully we already have places where to play sharpening our skills, and where to discuss our theories, like this place for instance.

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Different people prefer different games, and there are those who love several poker games equally, but I personally, after playing all of them, have decided to focus on NL Texas Hold'em solely. I love this game so much that I can't fully enjoy playing other games. But that's me. I'm not saying(not even thinking) everyone should love what I love.

So, I will be happy if another game will be sponsored. I will be happy for those who love that game, but I myself will rather not participate.

NL Texas Hold'em forever! Smiley

oh, yes.
I'd bet that most would prefer Texas hold'em
but I was referring for the platform

is there a platform in place to organize tournaments in crypto or even an online poker website or software that we can organize tables and set it up?

simply curious here

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July 02, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
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Different people prefer different games, and there are those who love several poker games equally, but I personally, after playing all of them, have decided to focus on NL Texas Hold'em solely. I love this game so much that I can't fully enjoy playing other games. But that's me. I'm not saying(not even thinking) everyone should love what I love.

So, I will be happy if another game will be sponsored. I will be happy for those who love that game, but I myself will rather not participate.

NL Texas Hold'em forever! Smiley

oh, yes.
I'd bet that most would prefer Texas hold'em
but I was referring for the platform

is there a platform in place to organize tournaments in crypto or even an online poker website or software that we can organize tables and set it up?

simply curious here

I can name two platforms where the recent Bitcointalk Poker Series were played.

One of them is Betnomi, which I personally enjoyed very much, but I must say that some people were complaining about occasional log outs during the game. It was always taking me less than 15 seconds to be back in, so I didn't see a problem there.

Another one is SwCPoker, a smooth and established platform where our gang from Bitcointalk played many tournaments, and we enjoyed it very much.

Also, in 2020, Sportsbet.io were setting up several tournaments with good money added to the prize pool by the owners. They had stopped poker completely on their site since, I believe, last Summer, with the intention of getting some better poker software and come back this year, so, it might be a third option.

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July 03, 2021, 07:35:27 PM
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This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
In the world of poker game, I'm really lost and had no idea about how the game is been played, what discourages me in addition Is because, poker gambling platform usually stops their campaign on their forum because most of the outcome of campaign ran usually go poor, so I have that instinct believe in me that poker games don't interesting.

There's a high probability of that that it's only for the time being. I personally have confidence in that NL Texas Hold'em, my favorite game, and also other poker games will flourish in the crypto space in the future, and that's when patience of the current not so successful crypto poker sites will pay off. Right now they are just building up their reputation which will come in handy at the proper time.

As for us, poker admirers, thankfully we already have places where to play sharpening our skills, and where to discuss our theories, like this place for instance.
I think something similar, it is likely that the current platforms that are offering poker rooms and tournaments are not really that profitable at all but they are doing it because they are planning on getting most of the market share once it flourishes, this is a very common tactic when it comes to businesses, businesses are willing to keep a part of their operations open even if it is not profitable right now because they expect it will be profitable in the future.

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July 03, 2021, 09:53:11 PM
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This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
In the world of poker game, I'm really lost and had no idea about how the game is been played, what discourages me in addition Is because, poker gambling platform usually stops their campaign on their forum because most of the outcome of campaign ran usually go poor, so I have that instinct believe in me that poker games don't interesting.

There's a high probability of that that it's only for the time being. I personally have confidence in that NL Texas Hold'em, my favorite game, and also other poker games will flourish in the crypto space in the future, and that's when patience of the current not so successful crypto poker sites will pay off. Right now they are just building up their reputation which will come in handy at the proper time.

As for us, poker admirers, thankfully we already have places where to play sharpening our skills, and where to discuss our theories, like this place for instance.
I think something similar, it is likely that the current platforms that are offering poker rooms and tournaments are not really that profitable at all but they are doing it because they are planning on getting most of the market share once it flourishes, this is a very common tactic when it comes to businesses, businesses are willing to keep a part of their operations open even if it is not profitable right now because they expect it will be profitable in the future.

I would have thought there are already poker rooms on a blockchain, although it could be a fee issue as every bet would be a transaction I guess? If you use centralized platforms I'd be damn careful not to get robbed if it's a new platform. Playing on Pokerstars is just fine. You don't have the same anonymity/privacy, but I have never made bad experiences with them.

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July 04, 2021, 05:00:15 AM
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I think something similar, it is likely that the current platforms that are offering poker rooms and tournaments are not really that profitable at all but they are doing it because they are planning on getting most of the market share once it flourishes, this is a very common tactic when it comes to businesses, businesses are willing to keep a part of their operations open even if it is not profitable right now because they expect it will be profitable in the future.
Most likely that's the main purpose, they are willing to spend some money to host such events,

In hope that in the longer run participants will use their platforms and they will benefits out from it, this kind of business tactics is very common way to attract participants to use the service and along the way once they already familiarize they will use it and bring more
players to play along with them.
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July 06, 2021, 07:09:25 PM
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I can name two platforms where the recent Bitcointalk Poker Series were played.

One of them is Betnomi, which I personally enjoyed very much, but I must say that some people were complaining about occasional log outs during the game. It was always taking me less than 15 seconds to be back in, so I didn't see a problem there.

Another one is SwCPoker, a smooth and established platform where our gang from Bitcointalk played many tournaments, and we enjoyed it very much.

Also, in 2020, Sportsbet.io were setting up several tournaments with good money added to the prize pool by the owners. They had stopped poker completely on their site since, I believe, last Summer, with the intention of getting some better poker software and come back this year, so, it might be a third option.

amazing
thank you for the information
didnt know that
but should be obvious that we'd have platforms in place at this point

I'm surprised that more "traditional" ones like idk everest poker didnt implement crypto somehow...

they'll probably do it sooner or later.

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July 07, 2021, 06:59:58 AM
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I would have thought there are already poker rooms on a blockchain, although it could be a fee issue as every bet would be a transaction I guess? If you use centralized platforms I'd be damn careful not to get robbed if it's a new platform. Playing on Pokerstars is just fine. You don't have the same anonymity/privacy, but I have never made bad experiences with them.

If every bet is a blockchain record, it will make the game very expensive even for the winner. Because everyone will pay transaction fees that aren't normally cheap.

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There's a high probability of that that it's only for the time being. I personally have confidence in that NL Texas Hold'em, my favorite game, and also other poker games will flourish in the crypto space in the future, and that's when patience of the current not so successful crypto poker sites will pay off. Right now they are just building up their reputation which will come in handy at the proper time.

As for us, poker admirers, thankfully we already have places where to play sharpening our skills, and where to discuss our theories, like this place for instance.
I think something similar, it is likely that the current platforms that are offering poker rooms and tournaments are not really that profitable at all but they are doing it because they are planning on getting most of the market share once it flourishes, this is a very common tactic when it comes to businesses, businesses are willing to keep a part of their operations open even if it is not profitable right now because they expect it will be profitable in the future.

Exactly. And what are odds of tens of millions of people stopping playing poker all of a sudden? I think it's close to zero. Rather those people will turn to crypro at some point in the future(because everyone eventually does, right? Smiley ), and that's when the established crypto poker platforms will have their time to shine.

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July 07, 2021, 09:15:39 PM
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There's a high probability of that that it's only for the time being. I personally have confidence in that NL Texas Hold'em, my favorite game, and also other poker games will flourish in the crypto space in the future, and that's when patience of the current not so successful crypto poker sites will pay off. Right now they are just building up their reputation which will come in handy at the proper time.

As for us, poker admirers, thankfully we already have places where to play sharpening our skills, and where to discuss our theories, like this place for instance.
I think something similar, it is likely that the current platforms that are offering poker rooms and tournaments are not really that profitable at all but they are doing it because they are planning on getting most of the market share once it flourishes, this is a very common tactic when it comes to businesses, businesses are willing to keep a part of their operations open even if it is not profitable right now because they expect it will be profitable in the future.

Exactly. And what are odds of tens of millions of people stopping playing poker all of a sudden? I think it's close to zero. Rather those people will turn to crypro at some point in the future(because everyone eventually does, right? Smiley ), and that's when the established crypto poker platforms will have their time to shine.
If anything I am surprised it has not happened already, after all if I were to guess which is the second most powerful industry besides exchanges in this market I would say the gambling industry would have that spot, it would be interesting if there is some public market research about this as playing poker with cryptocurrencies seems like a perfect match and yet the number of players currently playing is on the low side.

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July 08, 2021, 02:06:25 AM
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I can name two platforms where the recent Bitcointalk Poker Series were played.

One of them is Betnomi, which I personally enjoyed very much, but I must say that some people were complaining about occasional log outs during the game. It was always taking me less than 15 seconds to be back in, so I didn't see a problem there.

Another one is SwCPoker, a smooth and established platform where our gang from Bitcointalk played many tournaments, and we enjoyed it very much.

Also, in 2020, Sportsbet.io were setting up several tournaments with good money added to the prize pool by the owners. They had stopped poker completely on their site since, I believe, last Summer, with the intention of getting some better poker software and come back this year, so, it might be a third option.

amazing
thank you for the information
didnt know that
but should be obvious that we'd have platforms in place at this point

I'm surprised that more "traditional" ones like idk everest poker didnt implement crypto somehow...

they'll probably do it sooner or later.

It is so, I can give faith about Betnomi, on one occasion in your thread I suggested that they could do the tournament online and they did not doubt it, also that that tournament was very well managed by one of the forum's campaign managers who has a lot of experience and guarantees security in all respects, apart from that I like the initiative of sportsbet.io, this is one of the great companies that are excellent in terms of their platform, responsibility and trust, especially the commitment they have with their players, if they go getting into the online poker tournament initiative I don't want to miss it, this fresh news really gets many of us excited. Is there a particular date for sportsbet.io? Already the third chance is the winner! For sure this year we will see that new software for the total enjoyment of online tournaments.


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July 08, 2021, 05:41:12 AM
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The only way to remain unpredictable to some extent is to remain anonymous and online play porker in an online casino only in that way you're physical emotions are not seen. You don't need to Bluff because that will further expose your technique to your opponent and that can be used against you in the process of gambling.
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July 08, 2021, 06:04:04 AM
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The only way to remain unpredictable to some extent is to remain anonymous and online play porker in an online casino only in that way you're physical emotions are not seen. You don't need to Bluff because that will further expose your technique to your opponent and that can be used against you in the process of gambling.
The bluffing technique will always work well if you believe in the cards in your hand, because if you bluff only with the aim of tricking your opponent but at the same time your opponent has a better card, then of course bluffing will only be a blunder. But indeed, sometimes luck will always make you win by bluffing because sometimes your opponent doesn't have the mental strength to fight back. So yes, I'm sure it's basically not easy to predict, only luck and bad luck will bring you wins and losses.

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July 08, 2021, 10:03:01 AM
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The only way to remain unpredictable to some extent is to remain anonymous and online play porker in an online casino only in that way you're physical emotions are not seen. You don't need to Bluff because that will further expose your technique to your opponent and that can be used against you in the process of gambling.
The bluffing technique will always work well if you believe in the cards in your hand, because if you bluff only with the aim of tricking your opponent but at the same time your opponent has a better card, then of course bluffing will only be a blunder. But indeed, sometimes luck will always make you win by bluffing because sometimes your opponent doesn't have the mental strength to fight back. So yes, I'm sure it's basically not easy to predict, only luck and bad luck will bring you wins and losses.

Taking that high risk using the bluffing strategy, if you mismanaged everything then expect you'll lose with your opponent.

We all knew that by doing this you need to have that big nerve, knowing that if in bad fate your opponent have a good hand
then call to your challenge it will turned things against you and losing is the next thing to happen. Grin Tongue

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July 10, 2021, 08:36:10 AM
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If anything I am surprised it has not happened already, after all if I were to guess which is the second most powerful industry besides exchanges in this market I would say the gambling industry would have that spot, it would be interesting if there is some public market research about this as playing poker with cryptocurrencies seems like a perfect match and yet the number of players currently playing is on the low side.

I would start from this forum, if you ask me. There are many, hundreds at least, poker players here, but in the official Bitcointalk Poker tournaments not more than 30 people are usually participating, and most of the time the number is below 20. Maybe we should create an opinion poll of a kind, asking bitcointalk users what buy-ins they would prefer, what schedules etc. I suspect that buy-ins in previous games were too high for most of the people: they fluctuated between $10 and $25. What if we set a $4 buy-in? We would get rid of annoying alts, usually infesting free rolls, and, at the same time $4 is an affordable price, right?

~ I like the initiative of sportsbet.io, this is one of the great companies that are excellent in terms of their platform, responsibility and trust, especially the commitment they have with their players, if they go getting into the online poker tournament initiative I don't want to miss it, this fresh news really gets many of us excited. Is there a particular date for sportsbet.io? Already the third chance is the winner! For sure this year we will see that new software for the total enjoyment of online tournaments.

Sportsbet.io were running password protected free rolls, and since the password was pretty easy to get(normally it was posted by Steve on this forum hours before start), we saw many of sitting out or going all-in each time clowns, which was annoying. Don't get me wrong, those were amazing tournaments still, I myself finished ITM couple of times Smiley , and it was nice to play with familiar users, even if not winning at all, but I would suggest at least a small buy-in for such tournaments in the future.

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July 10, 2021, 11:24:05 AM
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This is a new challenge in a new space. A set of variables can make part of a strategy but your feelings, intuition and capacity to face a match and loose it is the main requirement even if you are online. When you can't loose you are an opened book! You're vulnerable despite you're behind a screen. So, try to use communication signals without a pattern. Uses time in your favor. Don't let others build a betting behavior of you. Be unstable as much as possible. Change everything all the time. Gamblers try to read you as a human but in the vrtual world you can be whatever you want!
In the world of poker game, I'm really lost and had no idea about how the game is been played, what discourages me in addition Is because, poker gambling platform usually stops their campaign on their forum because most of the outcome of campaign ran usually go poor, so I have that instinct believe in me that poker games don't interesting.

You don't able to understand  the poker gambling is a separate thing, but poker gambling is still very much popular among the gamblers. Again if any poker gambling sites does not run their campaign for long, its their own will and strategy, but i know that games like Texas Hold'em are still very popular.

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Curious here, why do you think these websited like duelbits and 777 dont implement poker too?
its a game that many find interesting and could probably be good for their business

though probably also harder to manage and develop

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Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
Apart from bluffing our opponents, of course, we must understand the tricks that are actually used by our opponents first, so that later we can stop the opponent's cards that can harm our bets Sometimes some players like to fold if they get a card with a small number and lure us all in if we get a good card and of course this will make our game position a little vulnerable so sometimes it makes us emotional and even act rashly in the game, patience is something that is quite needed in poker games so that we can play poker with good concentration and a calm attitude so as not to be influenced by the opponent's game tricks.

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Apart from bluffing our opponents, of course, we must understand the tricks that are actually used by our opponents first, so that later we can stop the opponent's cards that can harm our bets Sometimes some players like to fold if they get a card with a small number and lure us all in if we get a good card and of course this will make our game position a little vulnerable so sometimes it makes us emotional and even act rashly in the game, patience is something that is quite needed in poker games so that we can play poker with good concentration and a calm attitude so as not to be influenced by the opponent's game tricks.

Not forgetting that we have to learn to deal with our own internal emotions.
That is, I may not pass on revealing information from my easy expression and attitude at the game table. But I have to figure out how not to be emotionally dismayed by a letter, or excited. Because if we don't control this aspect, even if we don't pass anything on to our opponents, we can be so focused on our game that we simply ignore our opponents and this could cause us to lose the game.

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July 17, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
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The only way to remain unpredictable to some extent is to remain anonymous and online play porker in an online casino only in that way you're physical emotions are not seen. You don't need to Bluff because that will further expose your technique to your opponent and that can be used against you in the process of gambling.
That is the preventive that you can do if you want to stay unpredicted because being anonymous and play online poker games in your room, no one will know who you are, even your family, unless you tell them you are playing a poker game. You can also rest for a while if you think your tension is getting high so you can play poker without any feeling when you come back.

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July 17, 2021, 11:09:44 PM
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That is the preventive that you can do if you want to stay unpredicted because being anonymous and play online poker games in your room, no one will know who you are, even your family, unless you tell them you are playing a poker game. You can also rest for a while if you think your tension is getting high so you can play poker without any feeling when you come back.
Well, most of the crypto poker rooms online that don't ask for KYC, no one will really know who you are.

To stay anonymous and not to know how you play poker because you wanted to be unpredictable, that's the case. But whether you play online or not, you can always change your course as you play to become unpredictable all of the time so you can bluff at your will.



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When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

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July 20, 2021, 09:39:40 PM
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When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

And it's a strategy where a lot of money is needed. Also, it's a high-risk strategy, as someone at the table might actually have a good hand and logically won't fold.

Now it's really a strategy that can work and work at certain points in the game. But, it should only be done after understanding what is normally the opponent's playing style, it may not be easy but you have to understand a little of how they are playing.


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July 21, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
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When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

And it's a strategy where a lot of money is needed. Also, it's a high-risk strategy, as someone at the table might actually have a good hand and logically won't fold.

Now it's really a strategy that can work and work at certain points in the game. But, it should only be done after understanding what is normally the opponent's playing style, it may not be easy but you have to understand a little of how they are playing.



agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

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July 21, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
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When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

And it's a strategy where a lot of money is needed. Also, it's a high-risk strategy, as someone at the table might actually have a good hand and logically won't fold.

Now it's really a strategy that can work and work at certain points in the game. But, it should only be done after understanding what is normally the opponent's playing style, it may not be easy but you have to understand a little of how they are playing.



agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

If they are right, the strategy is very risky, and of course you have to take into account the way you are playing, there are many players who are there just because they like the game and hardly take into account what they can spend, sometimes some Players have a lot of money and they don't care, although most of the time those types of players tend to disappear in the first rounds.

However, one of the best strategies has always been to study the players, their style of play in order to make the determination to do so and of course everything is a risk.Of course, it should be noted that I only apply this strategy a few times and because I saw it in the movie and I liked it, as it also has its effect on the game, I adopted it.In addition to all this, in my beginnings with poker it should be noted that I met pokerstar, there were many ways to play available, it was something like a course that very few read because it was too long.

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July 21, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
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agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

First in foremost, in any gambling activities this thing is very important knowing how to handle and balance your fund.

While strategy are always different from each players, it's also affects your system frm how you work with your bankroll.

Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.


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July 22, 2021, 03:50:51 PM
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agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

First in foremost, in any gambling activities this thing is very important knowing how to handle and balance your fund.

While strategy are always different from each players, it's also affects your system frm how you work with your bankroll.

Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.



really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

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July 22, 2021, 04:56:27 PM
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really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

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July 22, 2021, 10:04:17 PM
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really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

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July 22, 2021, 11:56:07 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0

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July 23, 2021, 10:50:30 AM
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Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

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July 23, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.

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July 23, 2021, 12:55:49 PM
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Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

interesting, I'm not the biggest poker player so I can definitely be wrong on that
I understand the fact that the activity may get more professional with time but there's always noobs arriving, maybe there are just less nowadays, I dont know

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July 23, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.
It's just about testing their luck most of the time but just to be unpredictable, some players really are just putting their last money on the line and think that they're going to be lucky with that last money left.
No one has said that bluffing is wrong whether you have the last money or you still got a lot of money. It's just another strategy that all poker players do.

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July 23, 2021, 04:11:09 PM
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Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

interesting, I'm not the biggest poker player so I can definitely be wrong on that
I understand the fact that the activity may get more professional with time but there's always noobs arriving, maybe there are just less nowadays, I dont know

I am an ordinary poker player, but I have friends who have been doing this professionally and playing poker has been their only income for several years (they played 120,000 hands a month). After the hype, when poker clubs opened here and there, and a lot of people were involved in this industry, dramatic changes took place - poker was banned in many countries (offline and online) and the flow of newcomers (who provided the main profit for regular players) decreased, therefore the average earnings decreased and many professional players were forced to end up with this. There is an opportunity to earn money there even now, but the difference is great. It is like working in a growing market and in a market that is in equilibrium - there is no longer any easy money.

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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

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July 23, 2021, 07:52:57 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.
It's just about testing their luck most of the time but just to be unpredictable, some players really are just putting their last money on the line and think that they're going to be lucky with that last money left.
No one has said that bluffing is wrong whether you have the last money or you still got a lot of money. It's just another strategy that all poker players do.
I get both your point and there's nothing wrong doing that indeed. Gambling is gambling even you are good with your choosen game if luck is not in your side losing is the next thing to happened.

Bluffing with your last money, same thing with yoloing while playing dice or other luck based games, once luck permits you to win, it willl extend your stay, but if there's none beside you, then go home with the smile strategy didn't work and better luck next time. Roll Eyes Grin

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July 23, 2021, 08:20:36 PM
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I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.
It might have helped as much as it did becuase luck was on your side but then, I feel bluffing enough especially when you play amongst familiar or regular pals comes with a pattern you know. They get to understand a build up should they be observant enough and in that instance, the very thing your avoiding is what you've presented to them.

Looking at the game floor might be the way to go but controlling your emotions of excitement on your chick is one place that can unravel the mystery of what your having. One can not be too careful.

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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

I'm specially interested on the things we can learn to be unpredictable at online poker as well
since the techniques of doing it in real life are a bit more common to hear about
any thoughts on that?

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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

Sometimes playing I tried to do that kind of strategy, but the truth is very difficult, I don't know if you remember pokerstars.net? When they did the games and live tournaments, many players were very serious and focused on their game, there it was very difficult to decipher what emotions they had, just a couple of looks between all of them, but it was very difficult, especially in the rounds that were For the semifinals, where the stakes went up and up, although it was very exciting on several occasions it seemed like a game of chess, however, for me they were all masters of poker because of the good plays they made.


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I am not so sure this is a great idea, I mean even if many cryptocurrency casinos are very forgiving when it comes to force people to go through KYC on the terms and conditions you can find many casinos state that you can only have one account with them and if you open several accounts then that could be grounds to force you to go through KYC and maybe even voiding any winnings that you may had at the casino at the time, so before you do that you need to read those terms so you do not lose your money there.

I don't mean having multiple accounts at the same time! This general rule is not allowed!
What I meant is that there is a possibility to cancel an account and then open another one.

But back to the same, with KYC or without, other players will never know who the real player is. Therefore, this issue of anonymity is irrelevant to playing poker.



Replacing an account may result in the loss of all accumulated bonuses.  This is a flaw in the method. 

In addition, each player has their own individual style of play.  This style of play makes him easily recognizable to other players.  You must use a different method ...

You must mentally create several subpersonalities with their own unique play skills and unique play style.  This will confuse your opponents very much. 

Each time they will not know what to expect from you.

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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.

it was kind of a joke since it's kind of a paradox, how to show your face and be anonymous in real life, specially nowadays?
but yes, I can see the possibility of these places existing and being a thing in many countries.

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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.

it was kind of a joke since it's kind of a paradox, how to show your face and be anonymous in real life, specially nowadays?
but yes, I can see the possibility of these places existing and being a thing in many countries.

Yes there are that type of casinos, in my country casinos are forbidden, and there was a certain very new place, which only very discreet people had access to, however there they played roulette, poker, Black Jack, it was a place that only those people They knew its exact location, but due to some players who lost they sued the authorities and got the site, the owners were imprisoned and the players too, that was sad.

For this reason, the publicity of online sites is much needed, the way to reach people in my country is not so much through social networks, but through Radio, TV, posters, people here believe and trust much more in that kind of advertising.

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August 04, 2021, 07:59:53 PM
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In addition, each player has their own individual style of play.  This style of play makes him easily recognizable to other players.  You must use a different method ...

You must mentally create several subpersonalities with their own unique play skills and unique play style.  This will confuse your opponents very much. 

Each time they will not know what to expect from you.

In the online game, where you only know a username, being able to compare what one user does with what another does, and conclude that they are the same person, is extremely complicated.
Because, even if each person has their own style, it is difficult to associate a style to two usernames, because there are many similar styles, and those who play poker always end up varying their style.

The only way to eventually be able to associate two users with the same person is if the person talks in the game chat. Because the person can have many ways to play, but in general their way of speaking/writing is more difficult to disguise.

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August 04, 2021, 11:24:24 PM
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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.
And only those who are known and with connections shall get the information where will be the exact location where the next table is going to be located.
I think your description, I'm more picturing it out with those movies that are related to mafia and other gangster themed films. But it could also be in real life but it's far from unpredictable in poker tables.

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August 05, 2021, 12:51:09 AM
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I think this is all about not playing a particular parttern of game continuously and repeatedly.Whike gambling,one needs to try so many methods of playing to try if you can get a win.Even after winning,one needs to switch playing style again to remain unpredictable.
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August 05, 2021, 04:55:22 AM
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And only those who are known and with connections shall get the information where will be the exact location where the next table is going to be located.
I think your description, I'm more picturing it out with those movies that are related to mafia and other gangster themed films. But it could also be in real life but it's far from unpredictable in poker tables.

More like with what scenes in the movies but it's true that it can happen in a real-life, mostly the idea already happening before some movies will tackle and feature it inside their works.

Mafias are good in switching from places to places, those who had access with them are capable to continue playing as tips will drive to them,

relating this to the topic seems more on how experienced gamblers to find good table to play against with.

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August 05, 2021, 05:12:04 AM
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I think this is all about not playing a particular parttern of game continuously and repeatedly.Whike gambling,one needs to try so many methods of playing to try if you can get a win.Even after winning,one needs to switch playing style again to remain unpredictable.
keeping the style of the game so that it is not easy to predict is actually enough
but that's what a player should do when playing gambling at the table (offline or online)

we here often play cards with light bets and learn from each other's playing styles
players who don't have the ability to change their style and are easy to predict are often the first to lose


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August 05, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.

it was kind of a joke since it's kind of a paradox, how to show your face and be anonymous in real life, specially nowadays?
but yes, I can see the possibility of these places existing and being a thing in many countries.

Yes there are that type of casinos, in my country casinos are forbidden, and there was a certain very new place, which only very discreet people had access to, however there they played roulette, poker, Black Jack, it was a place that only those people They knew its exact location, but due to some players who lost they sued the authorities and got the site, the owners were imprisoned and the players too, that was sad.

For this reason, the publicity of online sites is much needed, the way to reach people in my country is not so much through social networks, but through Radio, TV, posters, people here believe and trust much more in that kind of advertising.

yes, in my country casinos are forbidden too, as far as I know we don't have underground casinos but there are some places you can go to play things like poker,
the lottery is allowed and ran by the government of course, and there is a famous game in the streets that is not legal but you can find everywhere that is called "jogo do bicho", kind like a clandestine lottery with animals

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August 05, 2021, 02:36:50 PM
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I think this is all about not playing a particular parttern of game continuously and repeatedly.Whike gambling,one needs to try so many methods of playing to try if you can get a win.Even after winning,one needs to switch playing style again to remain unpredictable.
keeping the style of the game so that it is not easy to predict is actually enough
but that's what a player should do when playing gambling at the table (offline or online)

we here often play cards with light bets and learn from each other's playing styles
players who don't have the ability to change their style and are easy to predict are often the first to lose


I think it's not always like that, because sometimes when you apply the same method after winning the results are still profitable too. There will be times when we have to change the style of play but I believe, to change it does not have to be right after winning or losing because the change can be made after we have lost or won several times.

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August 05, 2021, 03:31:10 PM
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yes, in my country casinos are forbidden too, as far as I know we don't have underground casinos but there are some places you can go to play things like poker,
the lottery is allowed and ran by the government of course, and there is a famous game in the streets that is not legal but you can find everywhere that is called "jogo do bicho", kind like a clandestine lottery with animals

You'll not get the full satisfaction if you are afraid of getting caught, when gambling is illegal, you should not play in a physical casino, instead, learn how to do it online. What's the use of entertainment if you risk yourself getting caught on a violation that you will regret later?

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August 05, 2021, 10:31:45 PM
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And only those who are known and with connections shall get the information where will be the exact location where the next table is going to be located.
I think your description, I'm more picturing it out with those movies that are related to mafia and other gangster themed films. But it could also be in real life but it's far from unpredictable in poker tables.

More like with what scenes in the movies but it's true that it can happen in a real-life, mostly the idea already happening before some movies will tackle and feature it inside their works.

Mafias are good in switching from places to places, those who had access with them are capable to continue playing as tips will drive to them,

relating this to the topic seems more on how experienced gamblers to find good table to play against with.
That's the only relation that we can see from that to the topic and how they're able to adapt with the surroundings that we're they go at. Today, this might still be happening. The world is huge and we don't know what happens from the other sides of it.
As for the poker tables and players, I won't get into that type place as I'm good playing being unknown on the other side of the world through online tables.

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August 05, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
 #390

keeping the style of the game so that it is not easy to predict is actually enough
but that's what a player should do when playing gambling at the table (offline or online)

we here often play cards with light bets and learn from each other's playing styles
players who don't have the ability to change their style and are easy to predict are often the first to lose

To think that you can change your playing styles and therefore to be unpredictable is self-deception. If you play in an online casino where it is possible to collect statistics on players, then with a certain number of hands, the opponent will know a lot about you. Therefore, if you want to avoid this, then you need to play where the player remains impersonal and, accordingly, it is impossible to collect statistics about him.

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