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July 21, 2021, 01:35:13 PM
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When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

And it's a strategy where a lot of money is needed. Also, it's a high-risk strategy, as someone at the table might actually have a good hand and logically won't fold.

Now it's really a strategy that can work and work at certain points in the game. But, it should only be done after understanding what is normally the opponent's playing style, it may not be easy but you have to understand a little of how they are playing.



agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

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July 21, 2021, 03:30:30 PM
 #362

When playing online poker you are more likely to win when there are other participants at the tables and not against the algorithms of the platform, normally in poker when you are online and with other participants at the same time, there is a strategy that I like to use , what I learned in the old Maverick movie, if you have a card or a game that is worth nothing, like "Pachuca" the strategy is to bet a lot of money from the beginning, just as if you had a royal flush, and show the other players your safety and the way to prove it is by making very large bets, some players fold and there is a probability that a player will continue the game, but the probability is minimal when it comes to large sums of money. Of course this strategy works only a couple of times. I think that when people play poker or any other game they engage or seek to have a pattern, and when a person does something that others do not expect it is a very good strategy, in fact sometimes the unexpected is when they really win.

And it's a strategy where a lot of money is needed. Also, it's a high-risk strategy, as someone at the table might actually have a good hand and logically won't fold.

Now it's really a strategy that can work and work at certain points in the game. But, it should only be done after understanding what is normally the opponent's playing style, it may not be easy but you have to understand a little of how they are playing.



agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

If they are right, the strategy is very risky, and of course you have to take into account the way you are playing, there are many players who are there just because they like the game and hardly take into account what they can spend, sometimes some Players have a lot of money and they don't care, although most of the time those types of players tend to disappear in the first rounds.

However, one of the best strategies has always been to study the players, their style of play in order to make the determination to do so and of course everything is a risk.Of course, it should be noted that I only apply this strategy a few times and because I saw it in the movie and I liked it, as it also has its effect on the game, I adopted it.In addition to all this, in my beginnings with poker it should be noted that I met pokerstar, there were many ways to play available, it was something like a course that very few read because it was too long.

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July 21, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
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agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

First in foremost, in any gambling activities this thing is very important knowing how to handle and balance your fund.

While strategy are always different from each players, it's also affects your system frm how you work with your bankroll.

Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.


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July 22, 2021, 03:50:51 PM
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agree with @joker_josue
in Poker, a bit like in trading and even investing, managing bankroll and using risk management is a must
this strategy can work if you already have bank but i'd consider it medium or high-risk

I have friends that started from the free poker tournaments and climbed up their way to high-stakes tournaments, also possible

First in foremost, in any gambling activities this thing is very important knowing how to handle and balance your fund.

While strategy are always different from each players, it's also affects your system frm how you work with your bankroll.

Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.



really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

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July 22, 2021, 04:56:27 PM
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really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

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July 22, 2021, 10:04:17 PM
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really well put
that's it
you could have a strategy that includes many bluffs or bluffing as a main way to "scare" opponents and this may work, but is it worth using it all the time if it risks you to be ruined?
Like going all in in a bluff?

maybe yes, maybe not, I think not

avoiding the risk of ruin is a must

Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

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July 22, 2021, 11:56:07 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0

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July 23, 2021, 10:50:30 AM
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Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

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July 23, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.

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July 23, 2021, 12:55:49 PM
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Basically, bluffing is needed to lure your opponent when you have really strong cards in your hands. By itself, a bluff at a distance is meaningless and is more likely to work for minus than a plus. Bluff is especially pointless in online poker, basically everyone plays several tables and they do not have time to get scared of your bluff, everyone plays with the cards they have and if they are strong then you will not be able to scare your opponent.

I dont play online so much but not sure if I agree 100% with that
sometimes an user may bluff with cards they don't have and scare their opponent, even if its not the most common situation
of course this probably is a stronger strategy irl than online

Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

interesting, I'm not the biggest poker player so I can definitely be wrong on that
I understand the fact that the activity may get more professional with time but there's always noobs arriving, maybe there are just less nowadays, I dont know

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July 23, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.
It's just about testing their luck most of the time but just to be unpredictable, some players really are just putting their last money on the line and think that they're going to be lucky with that last money left.
No one has said that bluffing is wrong whether you have the last money or you still got a lot of money. It's just another strategy that all poker players do.

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July 23, 2021, 04:11:09 PM
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Perhaps this is working with novice players, a professional hardly pays attention to "theoretical" other player's cards, he looks at his own. And as far as I know, there are very few newbies now, the peak of the popularity of poker has passed and most of the online players are pros who play many tables and use special software for the game, so you cannot scare them.

interesting, I'm not the biggest poker player so I can definitely be wrong on that
I understand the fact that the activity may get more professional with time but there's always noobs arriving, maybe there are just less nowadays, I dont know

I am an ordinary poker player, but I have friends who have been doing this professionally and playing poker has been their only income for several years (they played 120,000 hands a month). After the hype, when poker clubs opened here and there, and a lot of people were involved in this industry, dramatic changes took place - poker was banned in many countries (offline and online) and the flow of newcomers (who provided the main profit for regular players) decreased, therefore the average earnings decreased and many professional players were forced to end up with this. There is an opportunity to earn money there even now, but the difference is great. It is like working in a growing market and in a market that is in equilibrium - there is no longer any easy money.

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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

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July 23, 2021, 07:52:57 PM
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Calling for some bluffs is connected after knowing that you still have back up money in case that things won't work well with your
attempts, being unpredictable as you continue to chase your winning cards.
Well, if there are situations that you need to bluff and even you don't have any money left then you should be bluffing just to put your last money on the line.
That's normal and you can just go back anytime whenever you have the money and capital again.0
But at least that's how it used to be, they were bluffing because maybe they were already frustrated or really wanted to test their luck. When you only have the last money then there is nothing wrong with bluffing because the result can be both a win and a loss, but if the bluff succeeds in making you win then of course that is a very good result, because then you can have another chance on the next card.
It's just about testing their luck most of the time but just to be unpredictable, some players really are just putting their last money on the line and think that they're going to be lucky with that last money left.
No one has said that bluffing is wrong whether you have the last money or you still got a lot of money. It's just another strategy that all poker players do.
I get both your point and there's nothing wrong doing that indeed. Gambling is gambling even you are good with your choosen game if luck is not in your side losing is the next thing to happened.

Bluffing with your last money, same thing with yoloing while playing dice or other luck based games, once luck permits you to win, it willl extend your stay, but if there's none beside you, then go home with the smile strategy didn't work and better luck next time. Roll Eyes Grin

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July 23, 2021, 08:20:36 PM
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I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.
It might have helped as much as it did becuase luck was on your side but then, I feel bluffing enough especially when you play amongst familiar or regular pals comes with a pattern you know. They get to understand a build up should they be observant enough and in that instance, the very thing your avoiding is what you've presented to them.

Looking at the game floor might be the way to go but controlling your emotions of excitement on your chick is one place that can unravel the mystery of what your having. One can not be too careful.

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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

I'm specially interested on the things we can learn to be unpredictable at online poker as well
since the techniques of doing it in real life are a bit more common to hear about
any thoughts on that?

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August 04, 2021, 02:34:39 AM
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This is a pretty good question/topic. I used to play in person poker a whole lot when the whole Texas Hold’Em craze started which was about 15-20 years ago now or so (good lord time flies by!).  I think the best way to be unpredictable is to simply make sure you bluff enough for one. What I used to do is simply look down at the table and not make eye contact with anyone when the hand is ongoing. I think this helped keep me focused and didn’t allow people to read my facial movements. I was pretty good so it seems to have worked well.

Sometimes playing I tried to do that kind of strategy, but the truth is very difficult, I don't know if you remember pokerstars.net? When they did the games and live tournaments, many players were very serious and focused on their game, there it was very difficult to decipher what emotions they had, just a couple of looks between all of them, but it was very difficult, especially in the rounds that were For the semifinals, where the stakes went up and up, although it was very exciting on several occasions it seemed like a game of chess, however, for me they were all masters of poker because of the good plays they made.


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August 04, 2021, 12:17:41 PM
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I am not so sure this is a great idea, I mean even if many cryptocurrency casinos are very forgiving when it comes to force people to go through KYC on the terms and conditions you can find many casinos state that you can only have one account with them and if you open several accounts then that could be grounds to force you to go through KYC and maybe even voiding any winnings that you may had at the casino at the time, so before you do that you need to read those terms so you do not lose your money there.

I don't mean having multiple accounts at the same time! This general rule is not allowed!
What I meant is that there is a possibility to cancel an account and then open another one.

But back to the same, with KYC or without, other players will never know who the real player is. Therefore, this issue of anonymity is irrelevant to playing poker.



Replacing an account may result in the loss of all accumulated bonuses.  This is a flaw in the method. 

In addition, each player has their own individual style of play.  This style of play makes him easily recognizable to other players.  You must use a different method ...

You must mentally create several subpersonalities with their own unique play skills and unique play style.  This will confuse your opponents very much. 

Each time they will not know what to expect from you.

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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.

it was kind of a joke since it's kind of a paradox, how to show your face and be anonymous in real life, specially nowadays?
but yes, I can see the possibility of these places existing and being a thing in many countries.

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now, playing anonymously in real life, that would be tuff to accomplish
I have heard of underground casino back when I was around highschool, they have this kind of move to a different location BS every time they operate so it's hard to pinpoint exactly where they are, and only those with a connection to the owner and employees can know where this is happening. The rumor is that they are selling illegal stuff there and it's actually a black market that only has a casino as a cover.

it was kind of a joke since it's kind of a paradox, how to show your face and be anonymous in real life, specially nowadays?
but yes, I can see the possibility of these places existing and being a thing in many countries.

Yes there are that type of casinos, in my country casinos are forbidden, and there was a certain very new place, which only very discreet people had access to, however there they played roulette, poker, Black Jack, it was a place that only those people They knew its exact location, but due to some players who lost they sued the authorities and got the site, the owners were imprisoned and the players too, that was sad.

For this reason, the publicity of online sites is much needed, the way to reach people in my country is not so much through social networks, but through Radio, TV, posters, people here believe and trust much more in that kind of advertising.

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