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April 04, 2021, 10:57:05 PM
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.
We will have to wait and see but I doubt that things are going to get as ugly as they did during the last year, after all governments have made a point to vaccinate the people that have the most exposure to the virus and the ones that suffer the greatest effects of the virus as well, so even if the third wave is coming I find it very difficult to believe that it is going to be as bad as it was last year.

With that in mind then I think that healthcare protocols are going to be relaxed a little bit and the economic activity of the countries will begin to catch up so it is important that anyone that can help a little bit do so right now which is the moment in which people need that help the most.

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April 04, 2021, 11:04:37 PM
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There is a very clear case on how some gambling or lotteries help with social causes. The "ONCE" is the "National Blind People Association" in Spain. They organise an state authorised lottery every week and put profits into helping disabled people. One good employment that you can get being blind or having severe sight issues is selling this lottery tickets, but also the profits are reinvested in people with disabilities of different types.
There are really lotteries that been launched out for this causes which is good but most of them would always after on the side income that they could get but if they do make

use it on the right way where allocation is bigger to be given on the said cause than into their own pockets that that signifies a good move that had been made.

We cant just removed the impression that they are just doing this for some additional promotion or PR with these kind of events.

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April 05, 2021, 10:07:59 PM
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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.

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April 05, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
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There is a very clear case on how some gambling or lotteries help with social causes. The "ONCE" is the "National Blind People Association" in Spain. They organise an state authorised lottery every week and put profits into helping disabled people. One good employment that you can get being blind or having severe sight issues is selling this lottery tickets, but also the profits are reinvested in people with disabilities of different types.
There are really lotteries that been launched out for this causes which is good but most of them would always after on the side income that they could get but if they do make

use it on the right way where allocation is bigger to be given on the said cause than into their own pockets that that signifies a good move that had been made.

We cant just removed the impression that they are just doing this for some additional promotion or PR with these kind of events.

With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

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April 05, 2021, 10:19:49 PM
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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.

As you said most gambling contributes to the state through paying taxes, and I rarely find gambling firms that provide direct assistance to
the government by methods other than paying taxes. Or maybe they often do it but don't publish it, given the negative public view of
the gambling industry. For me whoever provides assistance is fine, as long as the goal is good, we should all support it.

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April 06, 2021, 03:50:19 PM
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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.
The government can use the tax to develop the country but with more help from the gambling firms, that will make a recovery for that country will run better as the government can get support from the firms. Maybe that is not happening in many countries, but I am sure that what is happening to the other countries is that the other country's help will come from the other industry. But we can hope that more companies will help the government as the government can do that alone.

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April 06, 2021, 05:02:08 PM
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It is in the interest of every gambling company to keep the government in the country where they are based happy. If they do not keep the government happy then restrictions or further taxes on such activity are likely to happen. I am fairly sure that it is also written into the agreement that a portion of funds will be spent on good causes, this is not the owners of the National Lottery being in any way benevolent. While it is definitely helpful that they spend this money on good causes, it is little different than mining or oil companies funding certain projects to get a favorable stance from politicians. The National Lottery used to be owned by the UK government before it sold off a huge cash cow, now I am fairly sure it's owned by some Canadian teachers pension fund who understand the long term value.

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April 06, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
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It is really something that has happened for many years, in several countries the lotteries operate under the figure of "non-profit" which gives them the opportunity to do charity.

On the other hand; the taxes are of such magnitude that the casinos become important sources of income for local governments, some casinos prefer to be under the figure "benefit" because they reduce tax costs, and so on.

The United Kingdom is in a certain way a country with legislation "open" to gambling, several countries seek to impose high fee rates, without intermediating proposals such as investment by casinos in infrastructure, so weigh discounts from these tax rates, achieving an exchange that benefits everyone, casinos-users-governments.

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Well, that is why there is no or little opposition to gambling firms and institutions, both online and physical, that is because of the taxes they generate that basically help in the governments efforts in this pandemic. Governments see the value that they bring, whether this is a casino, or a POGO outlet, or even a lottery outlet that sells lottery tickets and other forms of betting. Our country has been getting medical assistance from the government gambling regulatory board and has since helped thousands of impoverished people get good medical care.

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April 12, 2021, 06:30:53 PM
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With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.

So if at the end the casinos that are helping the people end up becoming bigger and obtaining more profits then so be it, they deserve those profits as they are doing something for the people when they need it the most.

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April 12, 2021, 06:56:01 PM
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With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.

So if at the end the casinos that are helping the people end up becoming bigger and obtaining more profits then so be it, they deserve those profits as they are doing something for the people when they need it the most.
Well, this is what you called or the famous line "you cant please everyone" on which there would really be side comments that you can hear out because in fact this is the reality on where
 some of those companies/people/institution would really have those behind the curtain motives on why theyre doing those good deeds for some cover up on what they do intent.
Its true that it doesnt matter on what are their plans as long it do benefit out the masses, they had able to get some help and support even though it might just be temporary
but at least there is one rather than having nothing at all.

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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
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April 14, 2021, 04:42:23 AM
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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
Yes, that can give them good reputations because besides running a gambling business, they also care about other people's lives, so they donate their income and give it to the government. If the other casino can give their help to the government, it will bring good news to people because they will get more support from many sides. With that donation, people out there can still survive and they do not have to suffer because the pandemic still happens in many places. If we can also help the government by donating what we have, that can support the government and give them a space to distribute the donation to more people.

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April 14, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
Yes, that can give them good reputations because besides running a gambling business, they also care about other people's lives, so they donate their income and give it to the government. If the other casino can give their help to the government, it will bring good news to people because they will get more support from many sides. With that donation, people out there can still survive and they do not have to suffer because the pandemic still happens in many places. If we can also help the government by donating what we have, that can support the government and give them a space to distribute the donation to more people.
Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.

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April 15, 2021, 03:42:14 AM
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Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

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April 15, 2021, 06:24:26 AM
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Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.











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April 15, 2021, 10:44:51 AM
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Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.



Best to just say "Some Countries" because only few of them has implemented this action .

Why? because there are so many casinos that closed while the pandemic is attacking so how can they help the government when they are not gaining anything ?
best if they are been allowed to operate so at least percentage of their income will be in Aid for the pandemic victims.

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April 15, 2021, 11:41:28 AM
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Why? because there are so many casinos that closed while the pandemic is attacking so how can they help the government when they are not gaining anything ?
best if they are been allowed to operate so at least percentage of their income will be in Aid for the pandemic victims.
^ Not all gambling casino was closed during the pandemic, in my country, when the result of infective was dropped down or in curve line. Many gambling casinos started their operations but they only allowed to operate half of the percentage as a normal one. They also reduce their staff just to survive and you know what? that was a big help that can contribute to the country that can recover from the financial problem and also can aid the pandemic victims. Nevertheless, the revenue that they generate can not sustain overall but at least can contribute.
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April 15, 2021, 11:56:30 AM
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It is in the interest of every gambling company to keep the government in the country where they are based happy. If they do not keep the government happy then restrictions or further taxes on such activity are likely to happen. I am fairly sure that it is also written into the agreement that a portion of funds will be spent on good causes, this is not the owners of the National Lottery being in any way benevolent. While it is definitely helpful that they spend this money on good causes, it is little different than mining or oil companies funding certain projects to get a favorable stance from politicians. The National Lottery used to be owned by the UK government before it sold off a huge cash cow, now I am fairly sure it's owned by some Canadian teachers pension fund who understand the long term value.
This was seems a good reason why gambling establishments or gambling must maintain a good relationship to the Government especially paying taxes on time. Here in our country, online gambling firms continue their business ventures despite of quarantine protocol implemented nationwide and how I wish that those gambling firms are being tracked down by our government to obligue to pay their taxes because it was literally big help to the economy.
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April 15, 2021, 02:03:14 PM
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.
We will have to wait and see but I doubt that things are going to get as ugly as they did during the last year, after all governments have made a point to vaccinate the people that have the most exposure to the virus and the ones that suffer the greatest effects of the virus as well, so even if the third wave is coming I find it very difficult to believe that it is going to be as bad as it was last year.

With that in mind then I think that healthcare protocols are going to be relaxed a little bit and the economic activity of the countries will begin to catch up so it is important that anyone that can help a little bit do so right now which is the moment in which people need that help the most.

This is entirely depends on a country if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how much money they are going to allocate to help those in needs.

For example here in the Philippines, since the pandemic hits, Online sabong became popular, and a lot of people got addicted to it. Some of them sold their properties and belongings just to have money to bet on it. Now, the only "help" that Online sabong can offer is the tax they are paying the Government which supposedly going to be use to give relief goods to those people that needs it.

And another problem appears, and that is because the poor are also risking their money on gambling and the relief goods that they are going to receive are sometimes much smaller on the amount they had lost in gambling, so it's not a good thing in my opinion. Also add the fact that other government officials are stealing the allotted money for relief goods to aid the people.
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