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The National Lottery Community Fund will invest around £18m ($25m) to the UK Government’s ‘Changing Futures’ programme.

This additional funding will take the programme’s total to £64m and will also extend the length of the project to three years.

The programme is designed to help adults facing issues like homelessness, drug, and domestic abuse and invites local organisations to partner with disadvantaged individuals.

It was announced last year and encourages local authorities to integrate local services, to focus on each person and reduce the demand on reactive services.

The Minister for Rough Sleeping and Housing, Eddie Hughes, said: “With thanks to The National Lottery Community Fund, the nearly £64m Changing Futures scheme can now expand the support available and enable more vulnerable people in our communities to get the help they need.

“It is important for the most vulnerable in our society to have access to a range of support from different services.”

Interim CEO at The National Lottery Community Fund, John Rose, adds: “We are delighted to be supporting the Changing Futures programme through an additional investment of £17.9 million.

“Through our Fulfilling Lives programme in England, we have seen people who have lived experience come together in partnerships with communities to develop new approaches which can better support adults facing multiple disadvantage.”

This latest investment builds on the National Lottery’s ‘Fulfilling Lives’ programme. Over the course of eight years, the lottery has invested £112m to support vulnerable people.

The National Lottery also raised £30m every week for UK good causes and has distributed £41bn across the UK since 1994.

The National Lottery licence is up for grabs from 2023, with the likes of Sazka Group challenging current licensee Camelot Group.


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Apparently A Gambling Firm In the UK related to lotteries is going to help the UK Government for a program which aims to provide support for the people who are suffering from homelessness , have a disability, some problems etc. They are going to team up with the Government and the local bodies to make sure future of such Individuals are good.

They are putting millions of investment in the program , it was incase announced last year but this year they have decide to increase the support to the same.

Now , How do you think this would affect the Image that the government did make of such gambling firms ?
With high taxes and returns they had to face a lot of disparities which at the end cause a lot of problems for the small businesses and if I remember the Government did make tougher gambling laws and created a havoc for the community but at the end they are doing good for the people so I do believe the Government should at least start seeing it as : less problematic.

Addictions are now bring tackled by every gambling sites locally and at the same time the companies have built in help centers free to use for the problem gamblers (considering how expensive mental health care and appointment for a psychiatrist is) , I do believe we can see more favourable laws in the lieu of gambling in the UK at least for a while because apparently the problem gamblers are the ones generating 4% of the revenue.

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March 21, 2021, 05:33:50 PM
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Every deed has an agenda. In this case, the support given by this gambling firm will be compensated in some sort exposure and advertisement by the Government. In addition, this support will definitely be in favor of this gambling firm in terms of their licenses and other technical requirements which would benefit them in the future.

Regardless, I see this as a win-win situation in both sides as both have favourable outcomes at the end.

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Now , How do you think this would affect the Image that the government did make of such gambling firms ?

Definitely on the positive side. The support will not only cater to the support given to the Government but this will also affect the people in the country. With this in mind, the view by the Government on gambling will become favourable.

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March 21, 2021, 06:12:07 PM
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In some countries the National Lottery have to give a specific percentage of the profit to charities as a prerequisite to operate in that country. So the government will only grant them a license to operate, if they give that percentage back to charities.

Governments justify the unethical behavior, because they know any additional funding will grant them extra funding for other government projects. This is one of the reasons why they hunt down "illegal" operators, because they do not pay taxes and they also do not adhere to the requirements to fund charities.  Roll Eyes

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March 21, 2021, 06:43:33 PM
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I read in the news that the government of Curacao got help from the Netherlands, if people would know how much money is involved in gambling there, then it does not make any sense why the government is not as rich as Bill gates.

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March 21, 2021, 06:52:16 PM
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I don't think this should be an issue to go gaga for casinos and praise them  Cheesy they are donating money to help the youth and everything, but Governments has put certain laws strictly for gambling to help the problem and gambling addicts and to save them from going to poverty or bankrupt. Like this, any company can just donate money and be a star in the government's eyes and get special privileges from the government. If a government considers it good that 4% of revenue comes off from problem gamblers and see it positively, I don't think that government really cares for the people.
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March 21, 2021, 06:54:18 PM
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Everything has got its good associated with the bad. With gambling the same is the truth. There are gamblers who are doing good to the people in need with the money won out of gambling. They never reveal it to the outside world, the gambling firms should've done it in such a way without revealing their identity. As an user mentioned, it'll get compensated in some other form. The spending on the project might be a very small part of their revenue, but the promotion is very big for them.
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March 21, 2021, 08:22:54 PM
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In some countries the National Lottery have to give a specific percentage of the profit to charities as a prerequisite to operate in that country. So the government will only grant them a license to operate, if they give that percentage back to charities.

Governments justify the unethical behavior, because they know any additional funding will grant them extra funding for other government projects. This is one of the reasons why they hunt down "illegal" operators, because they do not pay taxes and they also do not adhere to the requirements to fund charities.  Roll Eyes
That is pretty much what happens in my home country as well, gambling is legal but it is difficult to obtain a casino license, for a long time the only accepted way to gamble was through the national lottery and the reason that was allowed was simply because all the profits went to different charitable causes.

Private casinos and lotteries were not allowed until one decade ago and not only they are heavily taxed they also need to give a percentage of their profits to charity, so what the OP posted does not surprise me at all.

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March 21, 2021, 08:36:26 PM
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I read in the news that the government of Curacao got help from the Netherlands, if people would know how much money is involved in gambling there, then it does not make any sense why the government is not as rich as Bill gates.
Why wouldn't you tell them?  Cheesy Joking aside, they are much fully aware on the possibility of that thing but do you really think that they would just simply just jump in?

As same those sentiments above that this would really be a win-win situation both of gambling firms and with the government.They do benefit it out into those things
that they've been doing on.

Its really an advertisement or a good publicity with that gambling firm since it would really be recommended by the government itself or been approved out
at the same time they are really feeding up those fellas who are in the top position.

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March 21, 2021, 08:39:57 PM
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The regulators in UK should ease up on the gambling companies in the UK, because of the help they are getting it's a fact that the gambling industry in any country contributes to the coffer of any country, here in our country our government is the one running the national lottery and it's a big help for their infrastructure and medical needs of our people, the government should consider the contribution of the gambling industry, and should also help them by limiting the restrictions.



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March 21, 2021, 08:47:14 PM
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The regulators in UK should ease up on the gambling companies in the UK, because of the help they are getting it's a fact that the gambling industry in any country contributes to the coffer of any country, here in our country our government is the one running the national lottery and it's a big help for their infrastructure and medical needs of our people, the government should consider the contribution of the gambling industry, and should also help them by limiting the restrictions.


Each government in certain countries does really have different impressions towards gambling.Some do look positive on them but most of the time they are really on that non-appealing side where they do really restrict out or would really be putting up some limits or restrictions without even realizing on what are the things that they can really contribute on not only on the revenue or tax itself but also with other means since these businesses
do really generate tons of money aspite of the current pandemic situation we are in.I dont see anything wrong with this manner on what been mentioned or discussed on op even though most will see this to be not
really that a nice collaboration but for the sake of this hard situation then these events is really making out some relevance.

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Great news and it is very helpful in this time of pandemic.
I think most of the huge gambling firm who earns a lot are doing some charity work or givin out donations,
Even some of our online or crypto gambling sites help out through donating some of their profit,
I forgot the gambling site and I don't know if they are still donating to a random charity program but they let the people vote each time they does that's all that I remember.

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The regulators in UK should ease up on the gambling companies in the UK, because of the help they are getting it's a fact that the gambling industry in any country contributes to the coffer of any country, here in our country our government is the one running the national lottery and it's a big help for their infrastructure and medical needs of our people, the government should consider the contribution of the gambling industry, and should also help them by limiting the restrictions.


Each government in certain countries does really have different impressions towards gambling.Some do look positive on them but most of the time they are really on that non-appealing side where they do really restrict out or would really be putting up some limits or restrictions without even realizing on what are the things that they can really contribute on not only on the revenue or tax itself but also with other means since these businesses
do really generate tons of money aspite of the current pandemic situation we are in.I dont see anything wrong with this manner on what been mentioned or discussed on op even though most will see this to be not
really that a nice collaboration but for the sake of this hard situation then these events is really making out some relevance.

desperate times, desperate measures. though gambling is not perceived to be good by most people but if it will help the government to uplift the economy, why not? we dont need to be choosy these days. like others have said, it is a win-win situation. so just look at the positive impact that it may give to its people. anyway, it is up to the individual if he will be hooked to gambling during this pandemic. the establishments for sure will put up some warnings or reminders to its players.

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March 21, 2021, 09:27:03 PM
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Most of the casinos have their own ways to help people, and in my country its called as their corporate social responsibility where they need to do an outreach program on many ways. Casinos are just like a normal companies as well, and if they are big enough I’m sure they’ll do some donations to help the government fight the poverty and this pandemic, let’s just hope that they didn’t donate for something else.
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March 21, 2021, 09:46:38 PM
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That is true, in my country gambling industry was a big contribution in terms of helping our government to recover lost fund because of the pandemic, due to the massive revenue that was made by most gambling companies, it was helping the government to stand again where their money helping to their citizen to cope up the financial assistance that they need during the lockdown.

Not only by that, but there are also different gambling institutions that helped the government via donations and I think that's enough to prove that gambling isn't a bad industry, sometimes it will help our society.

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March 21, 2021, 10:51:10 PM
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They give money back to those who are really in need and we badly needed it especially when the government is not that functional because of the situations right now.

I’m pretty sure that there’s a lot of donations that is not shared publicly and I salute those casinos who are doing it without getting anything in return. I’m playing on a casinos in my country where they always do charity works, and I can feel that I’m also doing it by playing with them, maybe you can consider this one and start playing on those who care.

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They give money back to those who are really in need and we badly needed it especially when the government is not that functional because of the situations right now.

I’m pretty sure that there’s a lot of donations that is not shared publicly and I salute those casinos who are doing it without getting anything in return. I’m playing on a casinos in my country where they always do charity works, and I can feel that I’m also doing it by playing with them, maybe you can consider this one and start playing on those who care.

These is an act of charitable works which the greedy government officials wouldn't do in return to the society. How amazing to see that even though gambling has no good impressions from hypocrite people who didn't understand what really with gambling itself.
Then this news came out and revealed their motives and true heart towards pandemic affected average individuals. Caring isn't about publicity but an act of truthfulness to those who seeks humanitarian arm to lift them up.
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I believe in this kind of doing. Even in some local areas of different countries.
For example in our country and local area where I grew up, I saw some gambling owners who are very kind during quarantine before.
They were giving free food to the poor or some people who have financial problems.
That time I realize, not all the effects of gambling are bad, there are a lot of positives also.

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Every deed has an agenda. In this case, the support given by this gambling firm will be compensated in some sort exposure and advertisement by the Government. In addition, this support will definitely be in favor of this gambling firm in terms of their licenses and other technical requirements which would benefit them in the future.

Regardless, I see this as a win-win situation in both sides as both have favourable outcomes at the end.
Or maybe will there be any kind of discount on the taxes this gambling firm has to pay to the country's treasure? I can't assure about this case, but when companies like this make a humanitarian donation, the amount is discounted by the government on the next tax the company has to pay. As you said it's a win-win situation: the government give up some tax income, but on the other hand there will be less state's money going to charity and welfare programs.

But on this particular situation I suspect the government is behind this action, because the lottery is national. Probably a government's monopoly.

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I think it'd probably be better to clarify something, gambling firms are A-Ok in my book (and hopefully the governments, as long as they aren't idiots). The issue here is with "gambling" itself, an issue within the activity itself and not really the community managing over it. It isn't wrong or anything tbh, and I'm pretty sure they and the gambling firms are trying to find that middle point where everyone would be quite happy. Point is, gambling firms don't have any bad reps, gambling itself does.

To the topic, I guess it could look favorable to gambling firms being a lot of help towards stuff like this. It should give the government as well as the public the idea that they earn quite a lot and are willing to give out some of it for the public, though considering that that money came from someone losing it being good is another issue.

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March 22, 2021, 02:38:52 AM
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Hope that They are doing this action because they really wanted to Help people and not just for popularity and advertisement .

We have seen many action like this in the past that gambling company is making Help for Needed but in the end they are only making sounds for them to be acknowledge and gain more gamblers overtime.

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March 22, 2021, 03:16:51 AM
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In the US out lottery system supports our public schools. It’s pretty cool, but I’ve also heard it described as wealth distribution from those who are bad at math. It seems like a slippery slope incentivizing bad financial decisions with charitable intentions. When you consider how unlucky lottery winners end up being, it seems like a lose lose situation for everyone except the ones ending up with the money in the end, unless people enjoy playing the lotto, which is certainly possible in some cases.

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March 22, 2021, 04:47:49 AM
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I read in the news that the government of Curacao got help from the Netherlands, if people would know how much money is involved in gambling there, then it does not make any sense why the government is not as rich as Bill gates.

This is all about business no matter how you look at it. Even though you see some huge money that is being given to the poor or to some organization, there is always a hidden transaction going on where they can get double the money they gave. this is how it works and the rest is only for show-off.

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March 22, 2021, 04:49:08 AM
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Any charity program aimed at supporting the poor, the homeless, drug addicts and other social groups is good for society as a whole. The main thing that allocated funds reached the addressees who need help and not settled in the pockets of corrupt government officials, which in fact happens very often.

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March 22, 2021, 04:56:24 AM
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They are going to team up with the Government and the local bodies to make sure future of such Individuals are good.
its not possible if the gambling can donate directly to those who are ineed ? because i think that is more sure that the future of those poor individuals are going to be good because they can get the exact amount of help and that help can sustain them in a long period of time than the money will be regulated by a government and other bodies because negative scenarios can happen such as they may only gave less to those poor or they will use the money first because they need it and will find it hard to payback later .
I think that certain Individuals will be given financial assistance in terms of their education to make sure that these unfortunate individuals will be given a good future. It might not be an exact amount help as they still need to work out for things to go out their way but having support with some financial from the government along with gambling institutions then it's still a good thing for them. I don't think that they are required to payback later but they must provide some documents or proof that they are eligible for the financial assistance from these kind of things.

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March 22, 2021, 05:02:18 AM
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Any charity program aimed at supporting the poor, the homeless, drug addicts and other social groups is good for society as a whole. The main thing that allocated funds reached the addressees who need help and not settled in the pockets of corrupt government officials, which in fact happens very often.
It is good until we know what is the compromise behind that help, they know that many won't be able to reject charity so this is their way of buttering up the people to consider their demands. If you live in a third world country like mine, corruption is rife especially in the illegal gambling sector, they know how big the taxes are being payed by legitimate gambling houses so politicians protect these people because they have a cut on the illegal profits.

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March 22, 2021, 06:17:23 AM
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Gambling business is a big industry, it's a good source of tax and not to mention it also provides job opportunities to people, plus a good attraction for tourists. It is one of the bloodlines of the government and some casinos also have their charities to extend their help to those who are in need.
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March 22, 2021, 06:44:45 AM
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It's good for the people who are in need of such help since they would be getting some sort of help from these firms.
But we can't say if the intention is good from these gambling firms or it's their selfishness.
May be they are doing it for free promotion. May be they are doing it to reduce their taxes.
The reason might be anything but one good thing here is that they have found a way which helps people in need.

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If the casino can help people who suffer from this pandemic, that can make them get more popular because besides making money from the gambling business, they also help people who needed. That can give a positive image for the people because the casino is searching for profit and wants to help people and donate some of their income to the people.

Or the government forces the casino to help people out there by giving them food and other things to survive, and the casino must follow that if they want their business still operate. But after all, that is good news from the casino.

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This gambling firm surely has some really good marketing managers.By teaming up with the government and helping the government their final aim is to get as much exposure as possible and they will get this.

Still as long as they provide relief to homeless and desperate persons I think they deserve the exposure they will get from such deed.

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I think that isn't some news but if that gambling firm goes outside  to what they offer their charity then that is some news. I don't know if what they really meant is to get some exposure from the advertisement they could get (pretty sure it's on the list) but I think it's still a great one if they do it for common good among its citizens, at least they are able to help the needy and that is still humanity in some sense.
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gambling firms must oblige themselves from helping the government because they are also part of the reason why some people loosen their living.

Addiction in gambling is more dangerous that addiction in any vices because this can broke the entire family, this can even leave to death upon starvation the whole family that's why helping government and some individuals must be on their ends.









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March 22, 2021, 10:07:36 AM
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Hope that They are doing this action because they really wanted to Help people and not just for popularity and advertisement .

We have seen many action like this in the past that gambling company is making Help for Needed but in the end they are only making sounds for them to be acknowledge and gain more gamblers overtime.
If the government and businesses are working together to help people best to believe that they have an ulterior motive for what they are doing. I mean, you already said that this kind of thing happened in the past so what makes you think that they are going to stop doing this kind of thing now.
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This gambling firm surely has some really good marketing managers. By teaming up with the government and helping the government their final aim is to get as much exposure as possible and they will get this.

Still as long as they provide relief to homeless and desperate persons I think they deserve the exposure they will get from such deed.
Agree, at least their choice are homeless and less fortunate people that requires help. I know that the government can already handle it but with the help of Gambling firm in exchange of exposure really sure pays off.

It will also bring positive feedback for the gamblers on their casinos to think that their money will be given to charities and less fortunate individuals. It's a great marketing strategy indeed, lessening the bad factor that the gambling industries already have by involving donations and financial help to the government.

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It is unbelievable that governments insist on restricting gambling and the argument is always the same: "people can become addicted, people will spend everything they have and they will not win anything ..." but governments do not limit beers which are things that harm many people (the number of car accidents keeps increasing and most of the time car accidents are due to people being drunk and driving a car)

my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws

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In this way we can see who is concern and whos not , because not all gambling firm are doing the same as what this one did.
some are only wanted to bag money from their players , while others is wanted to help while they are gaining and this is the true essence of business.

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In this way we can see who is concern and whos not , because not all gambling firm are doing the same as what this one did.
some are only wanted to bag money from their players , while others is wanted to help while they are gaining and this is the true essence of business.

love your business and help those who needs and for sure blessings will goes back to you.

Mostly the organization who will do such help is connected to politicians or government, some uses this companies for their benefits but some might just really want to help especially this time of pandemic. We just need to be smarter if we will also support them by playing or joining in their games. Hopefully many will still find ways to help not just to scam other people.

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It is unbelievable that governments insist on restricting gambling and the argument is always the same: "people can become addicted, people will spend everything they have and they will not win anything ..." but governments do not limit beers which are things that harm many people (the number of car accidents keeps increasing and most of the time car accidents are due to people being drunk and driving a car)

my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws

Well, now I guess this is a huge slap to this government body's face.
Lotteries from different countries for sure has helped the people during this time of crisis. Now, what this gambling firm has done is enough to make them realize the importance of the charity gambling firms and lottery.

Nevertheless, this is such a good move from this gambling firm. Not only does the government and the people are benifiting from these, but them as well.

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March 22, 2021, 01:13:53 PM
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my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws
In a country where gambling is legal, then I think the government has the responsibility to regulate gambling as best as possible and limit some things that are deemed to be detrimental to players, the site or the government itself even though they have an advantage from taxes. Regulating, limiting is somewhat rational than prohibiting completely.

Well, now I guess this is a huge slap to this government body's face.
Lotteries from different countries for sure has helped the people during this time of crisis. Now, what this gambling firm has done is enough to make them realize the importance of the charity gambling firms and lottery.

Nevertheless, this is such a good move from this gambling firm. Not only does the government and the people are benifiting from these, but them as well.

There are two thing that must be seen from the involvement of gambling site in charity work. First, gambling site carry out secret promotion through investing in government-backed charities. This good image is shown to the public that gambling also cares about charity, but on the negative side, people are increasingly interested in increasing money on the gambling site. Beneficial and also detrimental.

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It is unbelievable that governments insist on restricting gambling and the argument is always the same: "people can become addicted, people will spend everything they have and they will not win anything ..." but governments do not limit beers which are things that harm many people (the number of car accidents keeps increasing and most of the time car accidents are due to people being drunk and driving a car)

my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws

Well, now I guess this is a huge slap to this government body's face.
Lotteries from different countries for sure has helped the people during this time of crisis. Now, what this gambling firm has done is enough to make them realize the importance of the charity gambling firms and lottery.

Nevertheless, this is such a good move from this gambling firm. Not only does the government and the people are benifiting from these, but them as well.

When compared to gambling with liquor (beer), what is more dangerous is beer because if it is excessive it will result in commotion, crime and even casualties because you cannot control yourself due to the influence of alcohol and can harm others.
Gambling will generate money that can help financially and gambling will only lose or win which will not have fatal consequences in an instant as well as the risk of becoming a personal addict that does not harm others and there will be a process that can still be overcome if there are signs.
Casino or lottery, if agreed, will benefit various parties and a small part to charity for those in need because of the pendemi.

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March 22, 2021, 08:06:51 PM
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It is unbelievable that governments insist on restricting gambling and the argument is always the same: "people can become addicted, people will spend everything they have and they will not win anything ..." but governments do not limit beers which are things that harm many people (the number of car accidents keeps increasing and most of the time car accidents are due to people being drunk and driving a car)

my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws

Well, now I guess this is a huge slap to this government body's face.
Lotteries from different countries for sure has helped the people during this time of crisis. Now, what this gambling firm has done is enough to make them realize the importance of the charity gambling firms and lottery.

Nevertheless, this is such a good move from this gambling firm. Not only does the government and the people are benifiting from these, but them as well.

When compared to gambling with liquor (beer), what is more dangerous is beer because if it is excessive it will result in commotion, crime and even casualties because you cannot control yourself due to the influence of alcohol and can harm others.
Gambling will generate money that can help financially and gambling will only lose or win which will not have fatal consequences in an instant as well as the risk of becoming a personal addict that does not harm others and there will be a process that can still be overcome if there are signs.
Casino or lottery, if agreed, will benefit various parties and a small part to charity for those in need because of the pendemi.

Anything that is in excess, is not good. So it is the responsibility of the gambler to look after himself.
And if he needs professional help, he can always tap the establishment as they know where to get help from.
Gambling institutions can easily generate money even during this pandemic, so it is a good source of income.
So instead of banning them, let them operate and just get something from them. In that way, they are helping both to survive in this crisis.
And besides, no matter what, gambling will always be there. So why not extract money from them in legal way?
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March 22, 2021, 08:12:58 PM
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Interesting and also a good move from their side and I do not get why almost everyone is complaining. It is not a contradiction if this gambling firm decides to help with some money: it is not their fault people get addicted. The government silently gets its share and close both eyes knowing that gambling is a very profitable business for the state.
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March 22, 2021, 09:18:02 PM
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In the Philippines, gambling firm that is helping the poor are just own by the government, so it's still the government helping the government if we based on the title of the thread. IMO, private gambling firms are helping as well but only in the form of taxes, the bigger the revenue the government could collect, the more they can help and usually taxes on gambling firms are higher than other industry.

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March 22, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
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They just want to prove to the government that they are not only a form of vice but they also have hearts in hard times, they are showing the government that they are not only a profit-generating company but they can be partners of the government in times of crisis, many gambling casinos are doing this not only in UK but also in other parts of the world.

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March 22, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
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Glad to see that a gambling firm is doing something good for their local community by helping them survive off their unemployment due to the pandemic and other problems. How great will that be, if all the gambling firms come ahead to help each other leaving all their reproach aside and make this world a better place.  Smiley
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March 23, 2021, 12:46:35 AM
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It is unbelievable that governments insist on restricting gambling and the argument is always the same: "people can become addicted, people will spend everything they have and they will not win anything ..." but governments do not limit beers which are things that harm many people (the number of car accidents keeps increasing and most of the time car accidents are due to people being drunk and driving a car)

my point with this is that we have this good action that this gambling site did, but governments should let people start being responsible for their money and not stifle gambling with so many rules and laws

Well, now I guess this is a huge slap to this government body's face.
Lotteries from different countries for sure has helped the people during this time of crisis. Now, what this gambling firm has done is enough to make them realize the importance of the charity gambling firms and lottery.

Nevertheless, this is such a good move from this gambling firm. Not only does the government and the people are benifiting from these, but them as well.

When compared to gambling with liquor (beer), what is more dangerous is beer because if it is excessive it will result in commotion, crime and even casualties because you cannot control yourself due to the influence of alcohol and can harm others.
Gambling will generate money that can help financially and gambling will only lose or win which will not have fatal consequences in an instant as well as the risk of becoming a personal addict that does not harm others and there will be a process that can still be overcome if there are signs.
Casino or lottery, if agreed, will benefit various parties and a small part to charity for those in need because of the pendemi.

Anything that is in excess, is not good. So it is the responsibility of the gambler to look after himself.
And if he needs professional help, he can always tap the establishment as they know where to get help from.
Gambling institutions can easily generate money even during this pandemic, so it is a good source of income.
So instead of banning them, let them operate and just get something from them. In that way, they are helping both to survive in this crisis.
And besides, no matter what, gambling will always be there. So why not extract money from them in legal way?
That should be the approach by every countries, but unfortunatelly many of them insist in classifying gambling as an illegal activity. These governments don't see the potential of generating revenue taking money from the rich, as they are the main big rollers, to give to those in need, through their own free will gambling and not through abusive taxations which discourage rich people to stay in the country.

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March 23, 2021, 02:32:34 AM
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Gambling is bad especially if the community is unhealthy and it is more likely to bring negative effect to people.

But if the gambling platforms also aims to help those people in needs then that's the time where we should support its agenda.

Not all gambling platform do have the same mindset like this because most of them only talks about getting rich and greed in terms of money. Hoping that more and more gambling platforms will engage to this kind of idea where we should also help those people who are starving and struggling to survive every single day so that people will not only have a bad impression on gambling activities.
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March 23, 2021, 03:04:06 AM
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In some countries the National Lottery have to give a specific percentage of the profit to charities as a prerequisite to operate in that country. So the government will only grant them a license to operate, if they give that percentage back to charities.

Governments justify the unethical behavior, because they know any additional funding will grant them extra funding for other government projects. This is one of the reasons why they hunt down "illegal" operators, because they do not pay taxes and they also do not adhere to the requirements to fund charities.  Roll Eyes

like in my country where the government handles programs to provide health services which funds come from the casinos all over the country. the not so fortunate are the ones that benefit only for they screen who are the ones to get the benefits.

Gambling is bad especially if the community is unhealthy and it is more likely to bring negative effect to people.

But if the gambling platforms also aims to help those people in needs then that's the time where we should support its agenda.

Not all gambling platform do have the same mindset like this because most of them only talks about getting rich and greed in terms of money. Hoping that more and more gambling platforms will engage to this kind of idea where we should also help those people who are starving and struggling to survive every single day so that people will not only have a bad impression on gambling activities.

it's those rich guys who can afford to entertain themselves in the casino and the ones who got addicted to gambling who loses money. they have another program for these people. it's just a loop, they help but they also ruin lives.









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March 23, 2021, 05:18:31 AM
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Gambling is bad especially if the community is unhealthy and it is more likely to bring negative effect to people.

But if the gambling platforms also aims to help those people in needs then that's the time where we should support its agenda.

Not all gambling platform do have the same mindset like this because most of them only talks about getting rich and greed in terms of money. Hoping that more and more gambling platforms will engage to this kind of idea where we should also help those people who are starving and struggling to survive every single day so that people will not only have a bad impression on gambling activities.
Gambling will depend on how people can use it. If they know that gambling is one thing that they can get fun and enjoy in their free time, they will not try hard to make money because the money will get only a bonus for them. But unfortunately, people do not realize this or realize the potential of making money from gambling, so they try to make money, even if they need to use more money.

If the casino can help people around that place or people who needed help, that can change the image of the casino from profit-oriented into getting profit to help people. It will reduce their bad reputations among people, but still, gambling is not good for people who want to make money.

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March 23, 2021, 05:54:04 AM
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In the Philippines, gambling firm that is helping the poor are just own by the government, so it's still the government helping the government if we based on the title of the thread. IMO, private gambling firms are helping as well but only in the form of taxes, the bigger the revenue the government could collect, the more they can help and usually taxes on gambling firms are higher than other industry.
I think that the only one that is owned by the government is the PCSO and PAGCOR, I don't think that it is the government that really helps the people, the money that came from those gambling firms came from the money of the people that they spend buying lottery tickets, I mean almost anything that the government is paid by the taxpayers money so they are just there to make things happen but it isn't their money. The problem with collecting taxes is that there are some people that get away legally and illegally.

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March 23, 2021, 07:55:29 AM
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it's those rich guys who can afford to entertain themselves in the casino and the ones who got addicted to gambling who loses money. they have another program for these people. it's just a loop, they help but they also ruin lives.


Yeah! the money they spent on the people from their gambling business might some 20% from the extra total income that they get from those people who lose every day in gambling. So there's nothing praiseworthy about it since that money is from those people who lose from their casino. Anyway, when you want to look at it from the other side, this is good instead of using the money on their own without giving some of it to the others who are suffering from the harsh environment after this pandemic.

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March 23, 2021, 10:49:15 AM
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They just want to prove to the government that they are not only a form of vice but they also have hearts in hard times, they are showing the government that they are not only a profit-generating company but they can be partners of the government in times of crisis, many gambling casinos are doing this not only in UK but also in other parts of the world.
this a great step for the gambling casino to have a good reputation in the government .
in no time no casino will be restricted by every government because they expect that casino will help them when they have extra  .
we dont need to say that governments dont need help because we think they are rich already because we dont know the amount that they released starting from the covid and the covid is not ended , any help are still welcome .
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March 23, 2021, 11:15:42 AM
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It's good that they're going to help as what it should be done. But I agree with those that have said that there must be something in return for this good deed that they do.

They're an enterprise, a business and every step that they do shall be for the benefit of their businesses. What should be the return of this? maybe giving the people a good understanding that it's fine to gamble because there's a proceed that goes to the unfortunate ones. But still, there's the reminder to gamble moderately.

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March 23, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
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Lottery is the best way to help the poor but in essence it's just the poor who are really aggressive on betting in lottery, so it doesn't makes sense if you would really dive into the real purpose. Gambling will take people's money and a government sponsored gambling platform IMO is bad, of course they can still help the people and that is true taxes.

I don't know if there are big private lottery, but AFAIK and I witness in our country, all of the lottery business are owned by a government agency.

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March 23, 2021, 12:44:34 PM
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can't relate to this thread because gambling is forbidden in my country.
I don't even know the difference between a lottery and buying a product that can give us a chance to win prizes.
so, most likely something like this will not happen in my country.

a good move from that gambling firm. a win-win for all; their marketing, taxes, and also for the people who get help.
the one that can't take advantage of that situation is religious people in that country.
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March 23, 2021, 01:20:19 PM
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Gambling firms actually have a negative image for some people, because many people think that gambling firms only take money from gamblers
and make gamblers addicted. Even though the reality is that not all gambling firms have a negative effect on human life. Even though I don't have
data that shows that there are quite a number of gambling firms that have a positive impact on human life. One of them is providing assistance to
the government, so that it can help with problems that occur in a country. Like helping many unemployed due to the COVID-19 pandemic, sometimes
there are also many gambling firms that provide financial assistance to various charities. The goodness made by gambling firms does not occur
in UK countries, but it also happened in several countries that did legalize gambling. Therefore, it is not certain that something negative cannot
become something positive.

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March 23, 2021, 03:23:05 PM
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I would rather say it is agreat way of advertising for the gambling company. Usually gambling companies face a lot of criticism around the world because of the nature of their business because gambling is a social taboo. So if a gambling company is helping UK government in such humanitarian efforts, that's definitely going to help them in long run. Possibly they are going to see a while new level of appreciation from the UK population.

I believe, it will be great if the big companies come out to help and aid to such humanitarian effort. Together, we will be able to make the world a better place to live!

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They just want to prove to the government that they are not only a form of vice but they also have hearts in hard times, they are showing the government that they are not only a profit-generating company but they can be partners of the government in times of crisis, many gambling casinos are doing this not only in UK but also in other parts of the world.
Agree that they are of good kindness and help others but are more subtle, this is a plan that could give many advantages, another fair exchange because in such difficult and crisis circumstances, casino income is relatively affected but if they support the government and help everyone, the economic change will help the casino to start getting more active once everyone has the money to gamble. One good point is that they have scored on the mentality of the government, a little loosening of the law will happen, it is clear that their money will automatically return to them

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I don't know if there are big private lottery, but AFAIK and I witness in our country, all of the lottery business are owned by a government agency.

This is on my mind too as I know all big lotteries are owned by the government. That institution is one of the government's sources of income.

But in that case wherein a private lottery provides some assistance to the government, then a big help. It's something that, since there are lots of gamblers even during the pandemic, this line of business isn't really affected by the negative impacts of the pandemic. It's no doubt that gambling is one of the businesses that survives during the lockdown.

Advantage on that private lottery firm? A good advertisement plus who knows, they can turn that initiative into "benefits and advantages" when they want something to the government in the future if anyone got the picture of what I mean. Smiley

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March 23, 2021, 10:32:39 PM
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They just want to prove to the government that they are not only a form of vice but they also have hearts in hard times, they are showing the government that they are not only a profit-generating company but they can be partners of the government in times of crisis, many gambling casinos are doing this not only in UK but also in other parts of the world.
Agree that they are of good kindness and help others but are more subtle, this is a plan that could give many advantages, another fair exchange because in such difficult and crisis circumstances, casino income is relatively affected but if they support the government and help everyone, the economic change will help the casino to start getting more active once everyone has the money to gamble. One good point is that they have scored on the mentality of the government, a little loosening of the law will happen, it is clear that their money will automatically return to them
Everything that had been done would really be having a corresponding  return and they wont really be making those deeds just for show off because this is business
you would really be expecting that every move that they would make would really be beneficial or a win win situation for them.Once they had established out
positive image or impressions towards their gambling business then government would just simply let loose and thats an advantage.
When its already been suggested or been recommended by government itself then its already a big success.

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March 24, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
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Apparently A Gambling Firm In the UK related to lotteries is going to help the UK Government for a program which aims to provide support for the people who are suffering from homelessness , have a disability, some problems etc. They are going to team up with the Government and the local bodies to make sure future of such Individuals are good.

They are putting millions of investment in the program , it was incase announced last year but this year they have decide to increase the support to the same.


This is a good gesture on the part of the gambling firm, they want to show to the government that they are not only a profit-driven company but a company that does care for the welfare of those who are in need and they are partners of the government, there are gambling companies that also doing this in our country, they want to erase the bad reputation of gambling companies by giving back to the community.

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March 24, 2021, 02:08:45 PM
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The casinos have certain restrictions under which they need to donate towards charity programme of the Government.As mentioned above for obtaining license there are strict code of conduct and certain implications which casinos have to follow.Moreover they got tax rebates if they donate for the noble cause as it is tax deductible in most countries.They are just playing their duties and we also need to appreciate them for helping and providing funds in needy hours to help people in pandemic.

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So it's just a part of organisations to donate towards charity driven programmes as law abides them do so of the country in which they are providing services.

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It is not just about the revenue. As a matter of fact, the revenue should be the last consideration. Otherwise, the government better be selling meth and cocaine for a larger income.

The point is that corporations, companies, and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts. It is their decision, and perhaps part of their wider responsibility to their poor fellowmen. Those are appreciated, of course. They're probably even incentivized for doing so. But those are not reasons for laws to be subjective toward them.

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The casinos have certain restrictions under which they need to donate towards charity programme of the Government.As mentioned above for obtaining license there are strict code of conduct and certain implications which casinos have to follow.Moreover they got tax rebates if they donate for the noble cause as it is tax deductible in most countries.They are just playing their duties and we also need to appreciate them for helping and providing funds in needy hours to help people in pandemic.

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 Must comply with advertising standards and codes of practice including the CAP Code and the Gambling Industry Code for Socially Responsible Advertising (Industry Code) administered by the Advertising Standards Authority (the ASA). There is also the Licence conditions and codes of practice for all licensees (LCCP).

So it's just a part of organisations to donate towards charity driven programmes as law abides them do so of the country in which they are providing services.


This is quite interesting because they are actually doing what they have to do for the sake of the license and the various rules that have to be obeyed.  It is very different in countries that prohibit access to gambling, there are no rules that support or allow it so that often naughty people still gamble from overseas online gambling sites and gambling companies do not pay any taxes from their income.  The loss is two times, one community is disadvantaged because they cannot play gambling freely. The two countries do not get anything from gambling companies which have very much money.
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March 24, 2021, 03:03:20 PM
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This kind of help for poor and needy people still needs to be appreciated no matter what the means is. In our country, even small lotteries help lots of people especially those who are asking for medicine and hospital assistance. Some people might say that they're just impressing the government but help still helps and lots of people could benefit from it.
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The casinos have certain restrictions under which they need to donate towards charity programme of the Government.As mentioned above for obtaining license there are strict code of conduct and certain implications which casinos have to follow.Moreover they got tax rebates if they donate for the noble cause as it is tax deductible in most countries.They are just playing their duties and we also need to appreciate them for helping and providing funds in needy hours to help people in pandemic.

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Must pay 15% tax on all profits from UK services.

Need to hold a license from the Gambling Commission and comply with various codes of practice.

 Must comply with advertising standards and codes of practice including the CAP Code and the Gambling Industry Code for Socially Responsible Advertising (Industry Code) administered by the Advertising Standards Authority (the ASA). There is also the Licence conditions and codes of practice for all licensees (LCCP).

So it's just a part of organisations to donate towards charity driven programmes as law abides them do so of the country in which they are providing services.


This is quite interesting because they are actually doing what they have to do for the sake of the license and the various rules that have to be obeyed.  It is very different in countries that prohibit access to gambling, there are no rules that support or allow it so that often naughty people still gamble from overseas online gambling sites and gambling companies do not pay any taxes from their income.  The loss is two times, one community is disadvantaged because they cannot play gambling freely. The two countries do not get anything from gambling companies which have very much money.
That is how the gambling business works, But I'm pretty sure that there are some casinos that are tied to high-ranking authority in the government and bend the law in their favor so they can take advantage of their competitors in their country. Irregularities in the government are somehow common today, But at least they are giving it back to the people.

Those countries that prohibit gambling will just waste the opportunity of giving tax to casinos in their country that most commonly operates in the underground.  It could help their country to recover, especially the countries that are the most damaged by the pandemic to cope up with their casualties.
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March 24, 2021, 04:14:56 PM
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It is not just about the revenue. As a matter of fact, the revenue should be the last consideration. Otherwise, the government better be selling meth and cocaine for a larger income.

The point is that corporations, companies, and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts. It is their decision, and perhaps part of their wider responsibility to their poor fellowmen. Those are appreciated, of course. They're probably even incentivized for doing so. But those are not reasons for laws to be subjective toward them.
But on the other side those corporations, companies and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts but with back intentions with these charitable acts. Sometimes, part of their white lies was to promote their businesses or to give their corporation a good image on the people for their marketing strategies too. So they can attract more gamblers or gamers thinking that they can contribute also to the charitable acts that the certain gambling business was made, well it's my opinion only.
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March 24, 2021, 08:03:08 PM
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It is not just about the revenue. As a matter of fact, the revenue should be the last consideration. Otherwise, the government better be selling meth and cocaine for a larger income.

The point is that corporations, companies, and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts. It is their decision, and perhaps part of their wider responsibility to their poor fellowmen. Those are appreciated, of course. They're probably even incentivized for doing so. But those are not reasons for laws to be subjective toward them.
Is is 100% about the revenue. Why? Even if this decision is -EV it clearly shows how people from these firms want to recompose for their stupid business. Of course you have to put these preferences as costs in the balance sheet.
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In some countries the National Lottery have to give a specific percentage of the profit to charities as a prerequisite to operate in that country. So the government will only grant them a license to operate, if they give that percentage back to charities.

Governments justify the unethical behavior, because they know any additional funding will grant them extra funding for other government projects. This is one of the reasons why they hunt down "illegal" operators, because they do not pay taxes and they also do not adhere to the requirements to fund charities.  Roll Eyes
As you point out there is definitely an agenda here, not really coming from the goodness of the people running the fund. It may well be a way to disperse off some cash in a way that puts them in a positive light while at the same time helping them claim no tax. It is a careful calculation and sadly not one that comes out as a token of generosity.
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In some countries the National Lottery have to give a specific percentage of the profit to charities as a prerequisite to operate in that country. So the government will only grant them a license to operate, if they give that percentage back to charities.

Governments justify the unethical behavior, because they know any additional funding will grant them extra funding for other government projects. This is one of the reasons why they hunt down "illegal" operators, because they do not pay taxes and they also do not adhere to the requirements to fund charities.  Roll Eyes
As you point out there is definitely an agenda here, not really coming from the goodness of the people running the fund. It may well be a way to disperse off some cash in a way that puts them in a positive light while at the same time helping them claim no tax. It is a careful calculation and sadly not one that comes out as a token of generosity.
Generosity? I wouldnt really believe on that specially into these kind of business and there would always be an agenda behind those actions which it isnt really that surprising at all.
Helping government and helping the people during quarantine? Lets put that they are really doing it honestly and with pure passion but still they do know that this can
really give out some advantages in the end of the day.

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We do have this in our country. The one who heads the lottery gives a certain percentage of sales on the tickets, plus the winner would have to pay taxes on their win. A certain percentage of what goes to the government (I believe it's somewhere around 20 - 30%) would then be allotted to the country's charity institution. I believe it's a good thing that they're doing this, although most people right now have reasons to believe that the country's charity channel isn't as functional as it was when first established. Due to corruption that has been unearthed from left to right, even the people believes that the lottery ticket proceeds aren't going to charity anymore but to the pockets of the few, which is just disgusting.

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In a difficult situation like now where there is still an economic crisis, all parties must help each other, and the state must indeed get assistance.
One of them is from gambling firms that do have a large income, gambling firms can provide assistance in the form of taxes or directly pay some
money to government-owned charities. But in my country, where gambling is indeed prohibited in any form, the government cannot get help from
gambling firms. So it is very fortunate for countries that legalize gambling to get benefits from gambling firms.

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It is not just about the revenue. As a matter of fact, the revenue should be the last consideration. Otherwise, the government better be selling meth and cocaine for a larger income.

The point is that corporations, companies, and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts. It is their decision, and perhaps part of their wider responsibility to their poor fellowmen. Those are appreciated, of course. They're probably even incentivized for doing so. But those are not reasons for laws to be subjective toward them.
But on the other side those corporations, companies and businesses of all sizes may do charitable acts but with back intentions with these charitable acts. Sometimes, part of their white lies was to promote their businesses or to give their corporation a good image on the people for their marketing strategies too. So they can attract more gamblers or gamers thinking that they can contribute also to the charitable acts that the certain gambling business was made, well it's my opinion only.

Always. That's always the case. Businesses giving money to charitable institutions, creating foundations, shelling out significant amounts for donations, and so on and so forth are always a part of a much bigger plan. Hardly will a business give out money solely for the sake of helping.

But that's not a lie either. That's just part of their overall business arrangement. That's simply how business works. It's just on our end if we get carried away by these acts of generosity and gamble on their platforms because they are doing charitable deeds.

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March 25, 2021, 06:14:33 AM
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This kind of help for poor and needy people still needs to be appreciated no matter what the means is. In our country, even small lotteries help lots of people especially those who are asking for medicine and hospital assistance. Some people might say that they're just impressing the government but help still helps and lots of people could benefit from it.
Yes, not many casinos will do that because they are still thinking of searching for a profit. But if the casino can think about other people who suffer from this pandemic, they will support them by giving donations to them and provide them with food for some time. People themselves will be grateful to them, and they can live while still need to survive in this pandemic. The government can not work alone, and they need supports from many companies or individuals to get out and solve the problem of this pandemic.

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March 25, 2021, 08:27:52 AM
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The government can not work alone, and they need supports from many companies or individuals to get out and solve the problem of this pandemic.
Thats true, the government cant do this alone. They're also lacking for financial budget to sustain the needs of unfortunate people.

This move of gambling firms are a big help to fight this crisis. In our country there's a certain lottery company giving donations for people who needs financial assistance especially when it comes to health medication. Actually they're doing this for long period already to help the government for the sake of poor people.

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The National Lottery Community Fund will invest around £18m ($25m) to the UK Government’s ‘Changing Futures’ programmed.. .


The programme is designed to help adults facing issues like homelessness, drug, and domestic abuse and invites local organisations to partner with disadvantaged individuals.



I wonder how this will sound to them if they are told that  "Gambling" firms are helping them to be better people. Maybe they should be asked how they feel about "gambling" firms supporting them.
Doesn't really sound moral to use money from Gambling or businesses that encourage big risk to fund those that need help.
I think it should simply be seen as Lottery (as it's called) or Betting firms.. and hopefully it is well regulated to prevent irresponsible and very risk bettings.
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March 25, 2021, 11:06:11 PM
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It's their time to shine, they are one of the biggest earners because gambling is a multi-billion dollar industry, by giving help to those who are in need, they are showing to their detractors that they are not really that bad, and they can be a partner to the government to support in providing basic needs to poor people, it's a win-win situation for the government, for the gambling companies and for the people in need.
They'll be getting an incentive to the government that they're showing their help. It's a big thing for them to do that because the government would always be in favor of them if they're about to register or would be asking for an extension, permits won't be a problem to them anymore.

Casinos that would be shown to the public that they're giving aide to the people on this crisis will have a change of view for those people that look bad on them.

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March 25, 2021, 11:39:18 PM
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Apparently A Gambling Firm In the UK related to lotteries is going to help the UK Government for a program which aims to provide support for the people who are suffering from homelessness , have a disability, some problems etc. They are going to team up with the Government and the local bodies to make sure future of such Individuals are good.
This makes sense because many people are jobless and also they are probably feeling bored of being at home for a longer time because of this pandemic. this is more than a year with this kind of situation. Many jobless and also some limitations are still done in order to avoid or minimize the risks of spreading the virus.
Well, playing gambling online may be one of the options to do. And I am curious about how they can survive because of gambling. AFAIK, gamblers especially the new ones may not be always winners. They may be losing and losing again that led somebody to feel stressed again.
However, if it is based on the research and the people are better in income and activities, I am pretty sure that gambling at this tie really gives good impacts and a good alternative to be done during this pandemic.
But, this si different in my country because gambling still becomes an illegal activity.

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March 26, 2021, 06:46:43 AM
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Apparently A Gambling Firm In the UK related to lotteries is going to help the UK Government for a program which aims to provide support for the people who are suffering from homelessness , have a disability, some problems etc. They are going to team up with the Government and the local bodies to make sure future of such Individuals are good.

They are putting millions of investment in the program , it was incase announced last year but this year they have decide to increase the support to the same.


This is a good gesture on the part of the gambling firm, they want to show to the government that they are not only a profit-driven company but a company that does care for the welfare of those who are in need and they are partners of the government, there are gambling companies that also doing this in our country, they want to erase the bad reputation of gambling companies by giving back to the community.


Half true but there's always a good side for the  business for sure.

I agree that this move will bring good images for the gambling business, especially now that the whole world are suffering from this pandemic, helping the governement to assist those who are in need the most are very kind gesture and it will really build good relationship within the government,business owners and the end users.
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March 26, 2021, 07:34:47 AM
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The government can not work alone, and they need supports from many companies or individuals to get out and solve the problem of this pandemic.
Thats true, the government cant do this alone. They're also lacking for financial budget to sustain the needs of unfortunate people.

This move of gambling firms are a big help to fight this crisis. In our country there's a certain lottery company giving donations for people who needs financial assistance especially when it comes to health medication. Actually they're doing this for long period already to help the government for the sake of poor people.
Suppose there are more supports from the big companies and not just from the casino. In that case, that will help the recovery process in the country because people can get help from them while the government can focus on distributing the vaccine to their people and help more people out there. If they can work together, there will be more people who will survive and pass this situation, and we will not see people will hunger and suffer because of this pandemic.

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March 28, 2021, 06:27:42 PM
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Hope that They are doing this action because they really wanted to Help people and not just for popularity and advertisement .

We have seen many action like this in the past that gambling company is making Help for Needed but in the end they are only making sounds for them to be acknowledge and gain more gamblers overtime.
Does it matter? As long as the money is actually being given away to the people that need it the reasons behind it should only matter to the one doing the action, at the end of the day taking into account how difficult things are going for so many people that have lost their jobs and have faced many other difficult situations because of the pandemic they need any help they can receive.

If this helps casinos as well then so be it, after all it is not as if casinos have not been heavily affected by the pandemic as well.

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It's not the first time we see gambling being directly related to a country's government. Lottery and sweepstakes that take a percentage of ticket sales and winnings are but a few examples. Although it is quite novel at least for me to know about how multiple gambling firms, which normally shouldn't have nothing to do with the government, actively helping them in order to benefit from one another.
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Half true but there's always a good side for the  business for sure.

I agree that this move will bring good images for the gambling business, especially now that the whole world are suffering from this pandemic, helping the governement to assist those who are in need the most are very kind gesture and it will really build good relationship within the government,business owners and the end users.
At this time of pandemic we have heard some news that gambling business that was regulated via online with coordination to the government do really help to economy by their taxes. Well for me, the appreciation to the gambling online business takes place because during quarantine where no one allowed to go outside for just a liesure reasons all transactions made online so maybe it is one of the way that a gambling businesses can do to help their countries economic suffering.
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It's not the first time we see gambling being directly related to a country's government. Lottery and sweepstakes that take a percentage of ticket sales and winnings are but a few examples. Although it is quite novel at least for me to know about how multiple gambling firms, which normally shouldn't have nothing to do with the government, actively helping them in order to benefit from one another.

I find it a good thing if companies who can afford to help, do so and help the people in need or governments in need. We are all aware that the online gambling industry had a huge boom last year due to the pandemic. For some of us gambling is nothing of interest and they will avoid it at all cost, but for the most of us here gambling is a nice way to spend some time and home and try to grow our crypto coins. Without gambling I probably would be so active anymore in the crypto community. Even though I lost quite a bit of money, I also got lucky a few times and made a profit. Seeing now that casinos also do good with their profits is a honorable thing. In the end if we all would be winning all the time, then the casinos would just go broke.
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Half true but there's always a good side for the  business for sure.

I agree that this move will bring good images for the gambling business, especially now that the whole world are suffering from this pandemic, helping the governement to assist those who are in need the most are very kind gesture and it will really build good relationship within the government,business owners and the end users.
At this time of pandemic we have heard some news that gambling business that was regulated via online with coordination to the government do really help to economy by their taxes. Well for me, the appreciation to the gambling online business takes place because during quarantine where no one allowed to go outside for just a liesure reasons all transactions made online so maybe it is one of the way that a gambling businesses can do to help their countries economic suffering.
Gambling houses arent really making these steps just for the sake of economic purposes or trying to help out the country because theyre totally been minding on how
they would make their business to be profitable frankly speaking.They would really be needing some approval in the government to make it happen and as a part of
taxation then its just pretty normal for them to pay up some taxes and with this current condition or situation then government would really be seeing on the relevance
of big businesses like these when it comes to revenue and the percentage that they can get with these casinos.

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Half true but there's always a good side for the  business for sure.

I agree that this move will bring good images for the gambling business, especially now that the whole world are suffering from this pandemic, helping the governement to assist those who are in need the most are very kind gesture and it will really build good relationship within the government,business owners and the end users.
At this time of pandemic we have heard some news that gambling business that was regulated via online with coordination to the government do really help to economy by their taxes. Well for me, the appreciation to the gambling online business takes place because during quarantine where no one allowed to go outside for just a liesure reasons all transactions made online so maybe it is one of the way that a gambling businesses can do to help their countries economic suffering.
Gambling houses arent really making these steps just for the sake of economic purposes or trying to help out the country because theyre totally been minding on how
they would make their business to be profitable frankly speaking.They would really be needing some approval in the government to make it happen and as a part of
taxation then its just pretty normal for them to pay up some taxes and with this current condition or situation then government would really be seeing on the relevance
of big businesses like these when it comes to revenue and the percentage that they can get with these casinos.

thats true. if they are regulated, they do need to pay taxes and thats part of their obligation to exist as a business. what the OP gave an example is the government-owned lottery system. and we all know that they do really give good amount to charities and thats part of their mission. but for regular gambling site, i don't think many of them have the aim to give some of their profits to the govt aside from the regular taxes that they are paying.
but if they do, thats great. they are one of the businesses that do have business during this pandemic (true for online casinos).

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April 01, 2021, 06:47:13 AM
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Great news this can only happen in advance countries, our own government won't ever do such to her citizens becasue they believe those who will benefit from the act are not their family members. What is good is good and should be commended, even though what i see here is just the government helping her citizens still demand or command appreciation. This is what my country men and women lack, giving helping hands to the needing when the need arises.

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Great news this can only happen in advance countries, our own government won't ever do such to her citizens becasue they believe those who will benefit from the act are not their family members. What is good is good and should be commended, even though what i see here is just the government helping her citizens still demand or command appreciation. This is what my country men and women lack, giving helping hands to the needing when the need arises.
I am sure the government will help their citizen and do their best to solve the problem in their country. If many companies help people who really needed in this pandemic, I think we can get out of the pandemic and survive, even if the pandemic continues. If their citizens still demand their government, I think that is because they are not yet getting help from the government, and they need to be patient for a while because the government needs to prioritize the people who really suffer. We hope that is not just casino that will help the citizen but the other company will follow their step.

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April 03, 2021, 02:30:51 AM
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Do people realise that national lottery is pretty much state owned?

This is not just some random private gambling corporation giving out money for free. A quarter of National Lottery's revenue is literally legislated to go to the National Lottery Community Fund for the purpose of financing public spending projects.

There shouldn't be an expectation for private entities to give away their revenue for free. And honestly, nor should any credit be given to a public entity for doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
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April 03, 2021, 03:08:26 AM
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It is nearly impossible to have good image as gambling company in muslim countries (I am from one of them) There is only one regulated company I know for sports betting, but many people consider it corruption etc. But this kind of behavior can affect people's thoughts.
well This thread tackles about UK and Not Muslim countries , You Know what ? you must be lucky living in that country in which Gambling is really discriminated because at the Best interest you won't become addicted because even if you wanted the option to gamble is really limited .
But In countries like mine that gambling is legal and can be done almost everywhere? You must learn that your children is prone to becoming one as well.

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This is the Only thing that i can Say for UK and for the gambling operators that participated in this action .


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Hope that They are doing this action because they really wanted to Help people and not just for popularity and advertisement .

We have seen many action like this in the past that gambling company is making Help for Needed but in the end they are only making sounds for them to be acknowledge and gain more gamblers overtime.
They are doing this all of the above, they want to help and it's another advertisement for them, they will earn goodwill for gamblers and non gamblers and for the government as well, let's admit it, gambling is bad in the eyes of many people and these gambling companies should do something about this, and they can only do this if they offer help in times of needs.
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.

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April 03, 2021, 08:58:37 AM
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.
I believe we will be covid free before next week, we should trust the vaccine and if everyone will receive a vaccine, slowly we will be back to the old normal. Gambling firms will still remain profitable because they were discovered more during the pandemic and some of the gamblers will remain gambling even if we get back to the old normal.

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~~~ And honestly, nor should any credit be given to a public entity for doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
What you mean is: becasue of the government helping the citizens they shouldn't be commended?, yes the funds belongs to the government and not the people and for them remembering to give back to the communities demand commendations from citizens. Take for example my country, the government will wack the funds and heaven won't fall on anybody, so, lets always show the government some appreciations when they give back to us. 

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April 03, 2021, 07:31:31 PM
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I think that with such a huge financial offer the government would put itself in a very bad position had they denied it. There would be news all over the Internet with titles like "The UK government refuses to take £64m aimed to support poor and struggling people". How do you think that would affect the public image? Cheesy
I think it's a win-win deal. The lottery company gets acknowledgment from both government and society, and those in need receive great financial support, so it's good for the government too.
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I hope all of the countries have this kind of gambling site that helps people during this time of pandemic. The only thing that concerns me is that a corrupt government may not use all of the money that is going to be donated to them by a company or by someone, if you know what I mean, that's why it would be more good if they are the ones who is going to do the helping literally so that they can assure that their money will be all use in helping those people that really needs help.
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I hope all of the countries have this kind of gambling site that helps people during this time of pandemic. The only thing that concerns me is that a corrupt government may not use all of the money that is going to be donated to them by a company or by someone, if you know what I mean, that's why it would be more good if they are the ones who is going to do the helping literally so that they can assure that their money will be all use in helping those people that really needs help.
Help in terms of tax but normally these are just those normal reductions on where a business should really pay off- yes, these businesses does really have an impact or role
towards countries development because revenues of these companies are really big compared to others which its understandable that they are big contributors.
Gambling businesses wont really be making out some expense for nothing in case they are helping the government or other institutions.This might look some
charitable works for some eyes but actually there are really things comes in behind.

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Although people view about gambling firm is not very good, because it can lead to addiction. But there must be a positive side to gambling firms,
it is proven that a gambling firm located in the UK provides assistance to the government to help people who are indeed affected by the pandemic.
This is something that probably cannot be done by all large companies, therefore it must be appreciated what the gambling firm is doing. For now,
we really have to unite and help each other, because the COVID-19 pandemic is a common enemy.

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April 04, 2021, 12:35:00 AM
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There is a very clear case on how some gambling or lotteries help with social causes. The "ONCE" is the "National Blind People Association" in Spain. They organise an state authorised lottery every week and put profits into helping disabled people. One good employment that you can get being blind or having severe sight issues is selling this lottery tickets, but also the profits are reinvested in people with disabilities of different types.

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April 04, 2021, 10:57:05 PM
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.
We will have to wait and see but I doubt that things are going to get as ugly as they did during the last year, after all governments have made a point to vaccinate the people that have the most exposure to the virus and the ones that suffer the greatest effects of the virus as well, so even if the third wave is coming I find it very difficult to believe that it is going to be as bad as it was last year.

With that in mind then I think that healthcare protocols are going to be relaxed a little bit and the economic activity of the countries will begin to catch up so it is important that anyone that can help a little bit do so right now which is the moment in which people need that help the most.

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April 04, 2021, 11:04:37 PM
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There is a very clear case on how some gambling or lotteries help with social causes. The "ONCE" is the "National Blind People Association" in Spain. They organise an state authorised lottery every week and put profits into helping disabled people. One good employment that you can get being blind or having severe sight issues is selling this lottery tickets, but also the profits are reinvested in people with disabilities of different types.
There are really lotteries that been launched out for this causes which is good but most of them would always after on the side income that they could get but if they do make

use it on the right way where allocation is bigger to be given on the said cause than into their own pockets that that signifies a good move that had been made.

We cant just removed the impression that they are just doing this for some additional promotion or PR with these kind of events.

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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.

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April 05, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
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There is a very clear case on how some gambling or lotteries help with social causes. The "ONCE" is the "National Blind People Association" in Spain. They organise an state authorised lottery every week and put profits into helping disabled people. One good employment that you can get being blind or having severe sight issues is selling this lottery tickets, but also the profits are reinvested in people with disabilities of different types.
There are really lotteries that been launched out for this causes which is good but most of them would always after on the side income that they could get but if they do make

use it on the right way where allocation is bigger to be given on the said cause than into their own pockets that that signifies a good move that had been made.

We cant just removed the impression that they are just doing this for some additional promotion or PR with these kind of events.

With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

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April 05, 2021, 10:19:49 PM
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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.

As you said most gambling contributes to the state through paying taxes, and I rarely find gambling firms that provide direct assistance to
the government by methods other than paying taxes. Or maybe they often do it but don't publish it, given the negative public view of
the gambling industry. For me whoever provides assistance is fine, as long as the goal is good, we should all support it.

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April 06, 2021, 03:50:19 PM
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Gambling firms have been actively helping our governments, in form of taxes of course. That being said, it's quite novel for me to hear about gambling firms directly helping a country's government thru methods other than what's stated earlier. Goes to show how these two fields are at least intertwined to one another.
The government can use the tax to develop the country but with more help from the gambling firms, that will make a recovery for that country will run better as the government can get support from the firms. Maybe that is not happening in many countries, but I am sure that what is happening to the other countries is that the other country's help will come from the other industry. But we can hope that more companies will help the government as the government can do that alone.

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It is in the interest of every gambling company to keep the government in the country where they are based happy. If they do not keep the government happy then restrictions or further taxes on such activity are likely to happen. I am fairly sure that it is also written into the agreement that a portion of funds will be spent on good causes, this is not the owners of the National Lottery being in any way benevolent. While it is definitely helpful that they spend this money on good causes, it is little different than mining or oil companies funding certain projects to get a favorable stance from politicians. The National Lottery used to be owned by the UK government before it sold off a huge cash cow, now I am fairly sure it's owned by some Canadian teachers pension fund who understand the long term value.

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April 06, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
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It is really something that has happened for many years, in several countries the lotteries operate under the figure of "non-profit" which gives them the opportunity to do charity.

On the other hand; the taxes are of such magnitude that the casinos become important sources of income for local governments, some casinos prefer to be under the figure "benefit" because they reduce tax costs, and so on.

The United Kingdom is in a certain way a country with legislation "open" to gambling, several countries seek to impose high fee rates, without intermediating proposals such as investment by casinos in infrastructure, so weigh discounts from these tax rates, achieving an exchange that benefits everyone, casinos-users-governments.

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Well, that is why there is no or little opposition to gambling firms and institutions, both online and physical, that is because of the taxes they generate that basically help in the governments efforts in this pandemic. Governments see the value that they bring, whether this is a casino, or a POGO outlet, or even a lottery outlet that sells lottery tickets and other forms of betting. Our country has been getting medical assistance from the government gambling regulatory board and has since helped thousands of impoverished people get good medical care.

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April 12, 2021, 06:30:53 PM
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With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.

So if at the end the casinos that are helping the people end up becoming bigger and obtaining more profits then so be it, they deserve those profits as they are doing something for the people when they need it the most.

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April 12, 2021, 06:56:01 PM
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With that it's surely to promote or add some attraction but there's still a good side from this act, helping in the mid of this pandemic is more weight thn looking for the otherside.

If they are really helping then so be it, whatever behind this action they are still providing and they should be credited by doing that, government are seeking for more of this as most of the government around the world are being hit hard by Covid.

This gesture will also open doors to other  line of business to follow and do the same charities.

It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.

So if at the end the casinos that are helping the people end up becoming bigger and obtaining more profits then so be it, they deserve those profits as they are doing something for the people when they need it the most.
Well, this is what you called or the famous line "you cant please everyone" on which there would really be side comments that you can hear out because in fact this is the reality on where
 some of those companies/people/institution would really have those behind the curtain motives on why theyre doing those good deeds for some cover up on what they do intent.
Its true that it doesnt matter on what are their plans as long it do benefit out the masses, they had able to get some help and support even though it might just be temporary
but at least there is one rather than having nothing at all.

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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
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April 14, 2021, 04:42:23 AM
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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
Yes, that can give them good reputations because besides running a gambling business, they also care about other people's lives, so they donate their income and give it to the government. If the other casino can give their help to the government, it will bring good news to people because they will get more support from many sides. With that donation, people out there can still survive and they do not have to suffer because the pandemic still happens in many places. If we can also help the government by donating what we have, that can support the government and give them a space to distribute the donation to more people.

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April 14, 2021, 11:28:41 PM
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It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
Yes, that can give them good reputations because besides running a gambling business, they also care about other people's lives, so they donate their income and give it to the government. If the other casino can give their help to the government, it will bring good news to people because they will get more support from many sides. With that donation, people out there can still survive and they do not have to suffer because the pandemic still happens in many places. If we can also help the government by donating what we have, that can support the government and give them a space to distribute the donation to more people.
Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.

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primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

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Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.











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April 15, 2021, 10:44:51 AM
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Nope, it would just be temporal and not would be a permanent thing for gambling business to give out full support on letting those people do rely on them when it comes to
primary needs and other sources for them to live or sustain this pandemic.We know that this is a business not a charity which its expected that they would really be giving out some
donations but that would really be just good for a certain period of time but dont expect that it would really take too long but its better than have nothing at all.
This would really be giving out some good impressions towards the business which would really be plus in both sides.
Yes, that will not be a permanent thing, but if the casino can still allocate some money to help people who needed after the pandemic is ended, that will give the government support that they are not alone to take care of their citizens. In this situation, every help from people, whether the casino, company or personal, will really worth it to people who needed it, not just from the government trying to solve and help their people. Still, all people gather to give their support to survive this pandemic.

in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.



Best to just say "Some Countries" because only few of them has implemented this action .

Why? because there are so many casinos that closed while the pandemic is attacking so how can they help the government when they are not gaining anything ?
best if they are been allowed to operate so at least percentage of their income will be in Aid for the pandemic victims.

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April 15, 2021, 11:41:28 AM
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Why? because there are so many casinos that closed while the pandemic is attacking so how can they help the government when they are not gaining anything ?
best if they are been allowed to operate so at least percentage of their income will be in Aid for the pandemic victims.
^ Not all gambling casino was closed during the pandemic, in my country, when the result of infective was dropped down or in curve line. Many gambling casinos started their operations but they only allowed to operate half of the percentage as a normal one. They also reduce their staff just to survive and you know what? that was a big help that can contribute to the country that can recover from the financial problem and also can aid the pandemic victims. Nevertheless, the revenue that they generate can not sustain overall but at least can contribute.
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April 15, 2021, 11:56:30 AM
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It is in the interest of every gambling company to keep the government in the country where they are based happy. If they do not keep the government happy then restrictions or further taxes on such activity are likely to happen. I am fairly sure that it is also written into the agreement that a portion of funds will be spent on good causes, this is not the owners of the National Lottery being in any way benevolent. While it is definitely helpful that they spend this money on good causes, it is little different than mining or oil companies funding certain projects to get a favorable stance from politicians. The National Lottery used to be owned by the UK government before it sold off a huge cash cow, now I am fairly sure it's owned by some Canadian teachers pension fund who understand the long term value.
This was seems a good reason why gambling establishments or gambling must maintain a good relationship to the Government especially paying taxes on time. Here in our country, online gambling firms continue their business ventures despite of quarantine protocol implemented nationwide and how I wish that those gambling firms are being tracked down by our government to obligue to pay their taxes because it was literally big help to the economy.
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April 15, 2021, 02:03:14 PM
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It is also true in case of online casinos. People have turned to online gambling ever since the pandemic has hit. We did see a rise in the number of gamblers last year. With cases rising back again to it's peak, some countries might once again put strict restrictions everywhere or may even go back to an initial lockdown. We may see another rise in the volume of bets being placed in online casino. At least it is providing (some) people entertainment while being housebound.
We will have to wait and see but I doubt that things are going to get as ugly as they did during the last year, after all governments have made a point to vaccinate the people that have the most exposure to the virus and the ones that suffer the greatest effects of the virus as well, so even if the third wave is coming I find it very difficult to believe that it is going to be as bad as it was last year.

With that in mind then I think that healthcare protocols are going to be relaxed a little bit and the economic activity of the countries will begin to catch up so it is important that anyone that can help a little bit do so right now which is the moment in which people need that help the most.

This is entirely depends on a country if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how much money they are going to allocate to help those in needs.

For example here in the Philippines, since the pandemic hits, Online sabong became popular, and a lot of people got addicted to it. Some of them sold their properties and belongings just to have money to bet on it. Now, the only "help" that Online sabong can offer is the tax they are paying the Government which supposedly going to be use to give relief goods to those people that needs it.

And another problem appears, and that is because the poor are also risking their money on gambling and the relief goods that they are going to receive are sometimes much smaller on the amount they had lost in gambling, so it's not a good thing in my opinion. Also add the fact that other government officials are stealing the allotted money for relief goods to aid the people.
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This was seems a good reason why gambling establishments or gambling must maintain a good relationship to the Government especially paying taxes on time. Here in our country, online gambling firms continue their business ventures despite of quarantine protocol implemented nationwide and how I wish that those gambling firms are being tracked down by our government to obligue to pay their taxes because it was literally big help to the economy.
An industry that is always obedient to paying taxes is one that is profitable in helping the government economy, especially gambling. People will be happy if the government opens up opportunities for other gambling industries.
In every country there are always rules where they will oppose gambling, this can lead to something bad and the opposite is also to legalize freely so there will be many things that we have to prepare what the government orders.
Even if we have to comply with health protocols, it is an obligation for every citizen because considering this is currently a pandemic.

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April 15, 2021, 02:54:53 PM
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Why? because there are so many casinos that closed while the pandemic is attacking so how can they help the government when they are not gaining anything ?
best if they are been allowed to operate so at least percentage of their income will be in Aid for the pandemic victims.
^ Not all gambling casino was closed during the pandemic, in my country, when the result of infective was dropped down or in curve line. Many gambling casinos started their operations but they only allowed to operate half of the percentage as a normal one. They also reduce their staff just to survive and you know what? that was a big help that can contribute to the country that can recover from the financial problem and also can aid the pandemic victims. Nevertheless, the revenue that they generate can not sustain overall but at least can contribute.

Oh that's very nice, in my country all the casinos are still closed. I wish they would open up again, I mean people can wear masks, there can be plastic barriers and they could even ask for a negative corona test before entering. Like you said letting casinos open up again can have a lot positive effects for a country. There are going go be more tax revenues and will be more relaxed. Online gambling is fun but there is nothing that can beat visiting actual casinos with their awesome flair.
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in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.
I do not know what is happening with the other countries but I think the other countries do almost the same thing. Their focus now is how to reduce the number of infected people from the virus and they want to help as many people as they can and always warn their citizen who does not obey the rule. But the help needs to continue and needs more support from many companies. We do not know how many casinos still open in this pandemic and I hope the casino can still help as they can.

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in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.
I do not know what is happening with the other countries but I think the other countries do almost the same thing. Their focus now is how to reduce the number of infected people from the virus and they want to help as many people as they can and always warn their citizen who does not obey the rule. But the help needs to continue and needs more support from many companies. We do not know how many casinos still open in this pandemic and I hope the casino can still help as they can.

If numbers of legal casino is open even if pandemic still happening well provably they can help but I don't know if there are so many of them open as I see in my country until now they are closed, also government cannot rely on those casino running online since there are so many unregistered so if they can get help from the taxes maybe only low amount only although this one is quite helpful but not sustainable in the long run as there are so many people need help.

If this disease will control and casino also others are opening back it can help to revive back the economy.

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April 16, 2021, 11:10:03 AM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.

If they wish to give back why they don't lower house edge? So we gamblers can have something from that too! Smiley

Jokes on the side, they are doing that for lower taxes... Simply they are making a lot of money, taxes for gambling are high, so probably owners earn less... but if they do something here and there, they will have some tax benefits and they will have a higher profit! Negative or positive, it's not a question here, probably all companies that earn a lot should be forced to do similar things and probably we would have a better society!

Similar actions could be seen in my country... they invested in kid's playgrounds, food for the hungry, and other things, in many towns!

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April 16, 2021, 02:52:51 PM
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in pandemic time, the government will enforce businesses to help the country stimulate the economy. Biden already calls for an increase in corporate taxes and even individuals with higher income to pay more taxes and it's for the people as well. casino businesses will have no excuse not to help after all they have been supporting the local governments for a long time. i don't know if there are still people going to vegas these days but i can see pawnstar series is running on the history channel. it must be.
I do not know what is happening with the other countries but I think the other countries do almost the same thing. Their focus now is how to reduce the number of infected people from the virus and they want to help as many people as they can and always warn their citizen who does not obey the rule. But the help needs to continue and needs more support from many companies. We do not know how many casinos still open in this pandemic and I hope the casino can still help as they can.

If numbers of legal casino is open even if pandemic still happening well provably they can help but I don't know if there are so many of them open as I see in my country until now they are closed, also government cannot rely on those casino running online since there are so many unregistered so if they can get help from the taxes maybe only low amount only although this one is quite helpful but not sustainable in the long run as there are so many people need help.

If this disease will control and casino also others are opening back it can help to revive back the economy.
I think the government will have the data about the casino in their jurisdiction to know which casino that already reopen and which is still close. The government will give easiness to the casino to operate but they must follow the health protocol for their members. The taxes from the casino really worth it, and so do the taxes from other business. It still hard to control the online casino around their country as the casino can register using the other country to avoid the tax. As long as the government can still get help from many owner businesses, that really helps them recover and help people from this pandemic.

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April 16, 2021, 02:59:30 PM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.
I understand that we need to be objective in this regard but if the casino really wants to help, they can quietly do so through each phase of the year, it is not necessary to take this action right at the time of a pandemic, the meaning of this action in each moment will bring about very different perspectives. This action during a pandemic can only mean a common contribution of businesses to the community, casinos are not necessarily in exchange for a regulatory softness or government satisfaction, they are in exchange for an economic opportunity for them.

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This is entirely depends on a country if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how much money they are going to allocate to help those in needs.

For example here in the Philippines, since the pandemic hits, Online sabong became popular, and a lot of people got addicted to it. Some of them sold their properties and belongings just to have money to bet on it. Now, the only "help" that Online sabong can offer is the tax they are paying the Government which supposedly going to be use to give relief goods to those people that needs it.

And another problem appears, and that is because the poor are also risking their money on gambling and the relief goods that they are going to receive are sometimes much smaller on the amount they had lost in gambling, so it's not a good thing in my opinion. Also add the fact that other government officials are stealing the allotted money for relief goods to aid the people.
While what you are describing is very upsetting at the end of the day those people are responsible for their actions, no one forced them to gamble and it is obvious they had a completely mistaken idea of what gambling is really about.

It seems they thought they could earn some easy money during the pandemic in which a lot of people lost their jobs and they found out the hard way this is not how it really works, it is sad but they need professional help to leave their gambling addiction behind and they also need to understand the math behind the games so this does not happen to them again once they recover.

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April 19, 2021, 04:44:13 PM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.
If there are no government officials involved and its pure helping thesociety or just giving back for the supporters then its fine, but if there are politicians whogets to involved then its a different question as they might using it for their benefits. Giving program usually happens in my country when election is upcoming and politician uses companies who says sponsored them but they just plainly use the peoples money or some donations. If its pure advocacy from the gambling comoany to really help thenwe should just be thankful for the help.

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April 19, 2021, 04:52:07 PM
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This is entirely depends on a country if it is a good thing or a bad thing and how much money they are going to allocate to help those in needs.

For example here in the Philippines, since the pandemic hits, Online sabong became popular, and a lot of people got addicted to it. Some of them sold their properties and belongings just to have money to bet on it. Now, the only "help" that Online sabong can offer is the tax they are paying the Government which supposedly going to be use to give relief goods to those people that needs it.

And another problem appears, and that is because the poor are also risking their money on gambling and the relief goods that they are going to receive are sometimes much smaller on the amount they had lost in gambling, so it's not a good thing in my opinion. Also add the fact that other government officials are stealing the allotted money for relief goods to aid the people.
While what you are describing is very upsetting at the end of the day those people are responsible for their actions, no one forced them to gamble and it is obvious they had a completely mistaken idea of what gambling is really about.

It seems they thought they could earn some easy money during the pandemic in which a lot of people lost their jobs and they found out the hard way this is not how it really works, it is sad but they need professional help to leave their gambling addiction behind and they also need to understand the math behind the games so this does not happen to them again once they recover.
Furthermore it's sure gambling sites will make much more money for themselves than the amount they are going to distribute to charity or to government due to taxes. After all they are on this industry running their businesses to make profit, like any other businesses around. And as you said, gamblers know the terms, conditions and risks of gambling games, so they shouldn't blame others later for their own past choices.

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April 19, 2021, 06:09:10 PM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.

If they wish to give back why they don't lower house edge? So we gamblers can have something from that too! Smiley

Jokes on the side, they are doing that for lower taxes... Simply they are making a lot of money, taxes for gambling are high, so probably owners earn less... but if they do something here and there, they will have some tax benefits and they will have a higher profit! Negative or positive, it's not a question here, probably all companies that earn a lot should be forced to do similar things and probably we would have a better society!

Similar actions could be seen in my country... they invested in kid's playgrounds, food for the hungry, and other things, in many towns!
There are a lot of functions need to be operated in gambling. And CEO needs money and profit too. They cant lower the house edge unless they are forced to do so by the government. Thus, they will maintain the current house edge until there is a new legislation for house edge.

At least you still live in a country where gambling is legalized. I still sneakily surf the internet for gambling like a mouse lol. Gambling is strictly banned in my country at any form. But I guess the government can not catch up the new technology so that we have a vast space for enjoying this form of entertainment
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April 25, 2021, 07:04:11 PM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.
If there are no government officials involved and its pure helping thesociety or just giving back for the supporters then its fine, but if there are politicians whogets to involved then its a different question as they might using it for their benefits. Giving program usually happens in my country when election is upcoming and politician uses companies who says sponsored them but they just plainly use the peoples money or some donations. If its pure advocacy from the gambling comoany to really help thenwe should just be thankful for the help.
We know that politicians are not only not above doing this but in fact do it all the time, with the excuse of helping other people they make use of social programs to further their own agenda and popularity, but at the same time someone that really needs that support is not really going to care that much about who is giving them aid as long as they receive it.

The same happens all over the world and as long as people receive their help and vote for whoever they want when it is the time to elect new public officials then let politicians believe they are buying the vote of the people when in fact they are doing the opposite.

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April 25, 2021, 07:08:25 PM
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People should not view this negatively or perceive that gambling companies are trying to make look good in exchange for light regulation, they want to help because many companies want to give back to society, and gambling companies are no exceptions, all government needs all the help that they can get at this time of pandemic from companies who are willing to help the government.
If there are no government officials involved and its pure helping thesociety or just giving back for the supporters then its fine, but if there are politicians whogets to involved then its a different question as they might using it for their benefits. Giving program usually happens in my country when election is upcoming and politician uses companies who says sponsored them but they just plainly use the peoples money or some donations. If its pure advocacy from the gambling comoany to really help thenwe should just be thankful for the help.
We know that politicians are not only not above doing this but in fact do it all the time, with the excuse of helping other people they make use of social programs to further their own agenda and popularity, but at the same time someone that really needs that support is not really going to care that much about who is giving them aid as long as they receive it.

The same happens all over the world and as long as people receive their help and vote for whoever they want when it is the time to elect new public officials then let politicians believe they are buying the vote of the people when in fact they are doing the opposite.
Cant really blame out those kind of perceptions and impressions because it turns out that anytime there are activities or doings like these then people would
really be having that kind of mindset that it might really be an agenda for something in behind but as mentioned where it doesnt really matter on what are their
motives as long they do able to get the help or able to receive something then it isnt something that would be in concern.
We are now on a hard times and its no point if we do let our ego to be above on all.

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