⚽ FIFA World Cup 2022: Tournament Discussion Thread for Qatar 2022

[JollyGood]

I still find the whole situation strange because though it was about time a world cup took place in the Middle East (providing they had the infrastructure), the tournament will take place during the main seasons around the world.

Imagine what it will be like for players that have to give 100% for their clubs in their domestic league, then have to travel for the biggest footballing spectacle in the world, to acclimatise there in a country most players have never visited and then to actually participate in the tournament knowing there will be no rest after because they will return to their domestic leagues to carry on where they left off.

This will be one of the strangest football seasons on record....

Hope it yes, but anyway for me it is absolutely no sense to play a world cup in a country like Qatar. Players with most probability will be tired because they will come from their leagues and they won't give their better

performance (another mistake was to play this cup in winter). Anyway, it is better for him to have more entertainment and comfortable structure.

[Sithara007]

In a news report it shows Qatar having made stunning base camps for the participating teams and for the match officials which would otherwise cost approximately £5000-£6000 per room per night.

The players and officials will be pampered and their every need taken care of but will this reflect with on field performances? 

I really wish that at least some of that money could be spent on compensating the 6,000 laborers who died in Qatar during the construction of the world cup stadiums (and also to the tens of thousands who got injured and handicapped). As far as I know, most of them received a one time settlement of $2,000 to $5,000. And it is a great shame that none of the players have spoken out against this. When they participate in the matches, they need to realize that they are standing over the dead bodies of thousands of poor laborers who were horribly exploited.

[JollyGood]

Every death that occurred as a result of people working on construction sites is one death too many, I wish none had died because they all left family and friends behind in order to make some money to send back to their loved ones.

If players and managers as well as football association chiefs from across the world had spoken up about this much louder than they already did then it would have been better.

I know England Manager Southgate and captain Kane were vocal about migrant rights and other things in March 2022 with various interviews but there has not been much noise after that. Qatar did introduce some changes such as minimum payment rates and other things after Amnesty published a report about how migrant workers were being exploited but after that there was not much in the media.

In a news report it shows Qatar having made stunning base camps for the participating teams and for the match officials which would otherwise cost approximately £5000-£6000 per room per night.

The players and officials will be pampered and their every need taken care of but will this reflect with on field performances? 

I really wish that at least some of that money could be spent on compensating the 6,000 laborers who died in Qatar during the construction of the world cup stadiums (and also to the tens of thousands who got injured and handicapped). As far as I know, most of them received a one time settlement of $2,000 to $5,000. And it is a great shame that none of the players have spoken out against this. When they participate in the matches, they need to realize that they are standing over the dead bodies of thousands of poor laborers who were horribly exploited.

[JollyGood]

England will be staying here at Souq Al Wakra Hotel. It has been mentioned as being modest in comparison to some of the hotels occupied by other countries such as France and Belgium:








Here is the full list of which hotels all the qualified teams will be staying at:

[Sithara007]

Every death that occurred as a result of people working on construction sites is one death too many, I wish none had died because they all left family and friends behind in order to make some money to send back to their loved ones.

If players and managers as well as football association chiefs from across the world had spoken up about this much louder than they already did then it would have been better.

I know England Manager Southgate and captain Kane were vocal about migrant rights and other things in March 2022 with various interviews but there has not been much noise after that. Qatar did introduce some changes such as minimum payment rates and other things after Amnesty published a report about how migrant workers were being exploited but after that there was not much in the media.

Massive respect to Gareth Southgate and Harry Kane. At least these two spoke out against the abuses, despite the overwhelming Arab money power. I guess for the other players and non-playing staff, money matters more than anything else. FIFA had an ideal opportunity. They should have asked Qatar to increase compensation that was paid to the dead workers. Or they could have made the payments themselves. These workers are mostly from countries such as Nepal and Bangladesh. Even a payment of $10,000 would have been very significant.

[JollyGood]

It was reported in several media outlets that Kane has already spoken to Tottenham teammate and France goalkeeper Lloris and also to ex-teammate and Denmark international Eriksen about the labour situation in Qatar as well as human rights issue. The rumour is they might be making a joint statement on the matter when the tournament kicks-off.

Massive respect to Gareth Southgate and Harry Kane. At least these two spoke out against the abuses, despite the overwhelming Arab money power. I guess for the other players and non-playing staff, money matters more than anything else. FIFA had an ideal opportunity. They should have asked Qatar to increase compensation that was paid to the dead workers. Or they could have made the payments themselves. These workers are mostly from countries such as Nepal and Bangladesh. Even a payment of $10,000 would have been very significant.

[Sithara007]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

[JollyGood]

I think it is right that human rights is highlighted as an issue of major significance when these types of international events take place. It allows messages to be sent out to a massive audience. Others such as Lahm can make their point by boycotting.

I do think Qatar addressed a lot of the criticism and complaints when it was challenged about the labourers that were working on the stadiums, they improved pay and conditions but people have their own views on what subjects should be prioritised. Maybe Kane will talk about one thing and Lloris another and Eriksen another...

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

[JollyGood]

There are different websites offering their own odds from the group winners and qualifiers to the teams reaching the knockout stages all the way through to the quarter-finals, semi-finals and the final itself. Many offer bets during the games to accommodate red cards, yellow cards and number of fouls to the number of offsides as well as goal scored, goals conceded and much more...

You can find the odds for the winner of FIFA World Cup 2022 here: http://sportstatist.com/who-will-win-fifa-world-cup-winner-betting-odds/

[nullama]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

It's a shame that a wonderful sport like football, in its greatest competition, is going to be filled with controversies outside of the field.

It's such a strange place to host the world cup, we'll see how it goes, but it already has a lot of controversies happening, and it's not even started yet.

Hopefully the focus is on the matches and not on the events happening outside of the field.

[Daniel91]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

It's a shame that a wonderful sport like football, in its greatest competition, is going to be filled with controversies outside of the field.

It's such a strange place to host the world cup, we'll see how it goes, but it already has a lot of controversies happening, and it's not even started yet.

Hopefully the focus is on the matches and not on the events happening outside of the field.

This is nothing new when it comes to football. Weren't the former heads of FIFA and UEFA, Platini and Blatter, in prison on charges of corruption.
Many independent journalists and investigators have already repeatedly accused FIFA and UEFA of corruption, especially in connection with the awarding of the hosting of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and 2022 to Qatar.
Football has long passed from the romantic phase to the money-making phase.
First the money, then the football game and the fans come next 

[nullama]

~snip~
This is nothing new when it comes to football. Weren't the former heads of FIFA and UEFA, Platini and Blatter, in prison on charges of corruption.
Many independent journalists and investigators have already repeatedly accused FIFA and UEFA of corruption, especially in connection with the awarding of the hosting of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and 2022 to Qatar.
Football has long passed from the romantic phase to the money-making phase.
First the money, then the football game and the fans come next 

Well, I guess they've realized that people will still watch the matches, independent of the controversies.

As Maradona said: "La pelota no se mancha" (The ball doesn't get stained).

[Sithara007]

Well, I guess they've realized that people will still watch the matches, independent of the controversies.
As Maradona said: "La pelota no se mancha" (The ball doesn't get stained).

Ordinary football fans like me don't want to boycott the world cup, because we get such an opportunity only one every 4 years. We will watch the matches, although it is a great shame that Qatar is allowed to host and benefit from this tournament. I just hope that FIFA will be more careful from now onwards. Countries with questionable record on human rights should not be allowed to host such global tournaments, unless they mend their ways. And more importantly, the world cup should not be a stage where their actions are vindicated.

[jakdanyel]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

It's a shame that a wonderful sport like football, in its greatest competition, is going to be filled with controversies outside of the field.

It's such a strange place to host the world cup, we'll see how it goes, but it already has a lot of controversies happening, and it's not even started yet.

Hopefully the focus is on the matches and not on the events happening outside of the field.

This is nothing new when it comes to football. Weren't the former heads of FIFA and UEFA, Platini and Blatter, in prison on charges of corruption.
Many independent journalists and investigators have already repeatedly accused FIFA and UEFA of corruption, especially in connection with the awarding of the hosting of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and 2022 to Qatar.
Football has long passed from the romantic phase to the money-making phase.
First the money, then the football game and the fans come next 

Unfortunately, there is corruption in every different area all over the world. Even the simplest work is bribed. This has become a kind of law of the world. As such, it is inevitable that there will be corruption in the world of football, where very big money is used. But after the tournament starts, everything will be forgotten. Football fans all over the world will start watching the matches and will watch the matches with excitement, waiting for the champion. I hope that Qatar can handle this burden with the least problems as much as possible.

[Sithara007]

Unfortunately, there is corruption in every different area all over the world. Even the simplest work is bribed. This has become a kind of law of the world. As such, it is inevitable that there will be corruption in the world of football, where very big money is used. But after the tournament starts, everything will be forgotten. Football fans all over the world will start watching the matches and will watch the matches with excitement, waiting for the champion. I hope that Qatar can handle this burden with the least problems as much as possible.

Corruption is prevalent in sports. I can agree with that. But what happened in 2010 (when Qatar won the hosting rights to the world cup) was something unprecedented. There was open bribing of the delegates by Qatar, when it was clear that United States was having the upper hand in the 4th round of bidding. Some of the delegates voted for Qatar, despite instructions from their national football body to vote for the United States. Qatar even hired a former CIA officer (Kevin Chalker) to spy on rival bidders.

[Daniel91]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

It's a shame that a wonderful sport like football, in its greatest competition, is going to be filled with controversies outside of the field.

It's such a strange place to host the world cup, we'll see how it goes, but it already has a lot of controversies happening, and it's not even started yet.

Hopefully the focus is on the matches and not on the events happening outside of the field.

This is nothing new when it comes to football. Weren't the former heads of FIFA and UEFA, Platini and Blatter, in prison on charges of corruption.
Many independent journalists and investigators have already repeatedly accused FIFA and UEFA of corruption, especially in connection with the awarding of the hosting of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and 2022 to Qatar.
Football has long passed from the romantic phase to the money-making phase.
First the money, then the football game and the fans come next 

Unfortunately, there is corruption in every different area all over the world. Even the simplest work is bribed. This has become a kind of law of the world. As such, it is inevitable that there will be corruption in the world of football, where very big money is used. But after the tournament starts, everything will be forgotten. Football fans all over the world will start watching the matches and will watch the matches with excitement, waiting for the champion. I hope that Qatar can handle this burden with the least problems as much as possible.

Yes, unfortunately, that is true. When the World Cup starts, everything else is forgotten and only football becomes important.
It is obviously very difficult to fight corruption in football and try to prevent it.
We can only hope that the World Cup will meet the expectations of the fans and that we will watch exciting and high-quality football matches.
The World Cup is being held at a very unusual time, for the first time in history in the middle of the club season, and the question is how it will affect football players and their game.

[nullama]

~snip~
Yes, unfortunately, that is true. When the World Cup starts, everything else is forgotten and only football becomes important.
It is obviously very difficult to fight corruption in football and try to prevent it.
We can only hope that the World Cup will meet the expectations of the fans and that we will watch exciting and high-quality football matches.
The World Cup is being held at a very unusual time, for the first time in history in the middle of the club season, and the question is how it will affect football players and their game.

I'm pretty sure we will hear a few stories of people in jail or similar for drinking in this world cup. And that will occur all the time, between matches, which I'm sure will distract a bit from the game itself.

[Sithara007]

I'm pretty sure we will hear a few stories of people in jail or similar for drinking in this world cup. And that will occur all the time, between matches, which I'm sure will distract a bit from the game itself.

In Qatar, alcohol is available only from licensed hotel restaurants and bars. But fans need to remember that being drunk in public is considered as a criminal offense in Qatar. So having one or two drinks may be OK, but anything more than that will land some of the unruly fans in one of the notorious prisons in the middle east. Smuggling alcohol from outside is also considered as a criminal offense. And as far as I know, none of these rules have been relaxed ahead of the world cup. And those who try their luck with smuggling weed or cocaine will face beheading, as Qatar has the death sentence in place for drug smuggling.

[Juggy777]

Some good news coming in.

German legend Philipp Lahm (captain of the world cup winning team of 2014) has stated that he will boycott Qatar 2022.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11095127/Philipp-Lahm-plans-BOYCOTT-World-Cup-Qatar.html

I am happy that at least some of the footballers view human rights as more valuable then all the money power which Qatar can offer. The human rights issue was swept under the carpet when FIFA awarded Qatar hosting rights for the world cup in 2010. But now more and more players are speaking against this issue. And also, it is reported that hotels in Qatar are refusing to accept room reservations for LQBTQ couples. When Gareth Southgate spoke against this, Nasser Al Khater tried to intimidate him.

It's a shame that a wonderful sport like football, in its greatest competition, is going to be filled with controversies outside of the field.

It's such a strange place to host the world cup, we'll see how it goes, but it already has a lot of controversies happening, and it's not even started yet.

Hopefully the focus is on the matches and not on the events happening outside of the field.

This is nothing new when it comes to football. Weren't the former heads of FIFA and UEFA, Platini and Blatter, in prison on charges of corruption.
Many independent journalists and investigators have already repeatedly accused FIFA and UEFA of corruption, especially in connection with the awarding of the hosting of the 2018 World Cup to Russia and 2022 to Qatar.
Football has long passed from the romantic phase to the money-making phase.
First the money, then the football game and the fans come next 

Unfortunately, there is corruption in every different area all over the world. Even the simplest work is bribed. This has become a kind of law of the world. As such, it is inevitable that there will be corruption in the world of football, where very big money is used. But after the tournament starts, everything will be forgotten. Football fans all over the world will start watching the matches and will watch the matches with excitement, waiting for the champion. I hope that Qatar can handle this burden with the least problems as much as possible.

Yes, unfortunately, that is true. When the World Cup starts, everything else is forgotten and only football becomes important.
It is obviously very difficult to fight corruption in football and try to prevent it.
We can only hope that the World Cup will meet the expectations of the fans and that we will watch exciting and high-quality football matches.
The World Cup is being held at a very unusual time, for the first time in history in the middle of the club season, and the question is how it will affect football players and their game.

@Daniel91 I believe that the media will try to paint a nice picture of Qatar, but on social media we’ll be seeing many complaints and I sincerely hope that the player’s don’t get distracted by these event’s.

I'm pretty sure we will hear a few stories of people in jail or similar for drinking in this world cup. And that will occur all the time, between matches, which I'm sure will distract a bit from the game itself.

In Qatar, alcohol is available only from licensed hotel restaurants and bars. But fans need to remember that being drunk in public is considered as a criminal offense in Qatar. So having one or two drinks may be OK, but anything more than that will land some of the unruly fans in one of the notorious prisons in the middle east. Smuggling alcohol from outside is also considered as a criminal offense. And as far as I know, none of these rules have been relaxed ahead of the world cup. And those who try their luck with smuggling weed or cocaine will face beheading, as Qatar has the death sentence in place for drug smuggling.

@Sithara007 I really hope that fan’s do not break any law there, because then it’ll a nightmare for them to escape from Qatar and lastly I hope that FIFA will run ads and educate fans on why they should strictly follow the rules there.

[Sithara007]

@Sithara007 I really hope that fan’s do not break any law there, because then it’ll a nightmare for them to escape from Qatar and lastly I hope that FIFA will run ads and educate fans on why they should strictly follow the rules there.

Qatar is expecting a total of 1.2 million visitors during the world cup. Even if we take the very liberal estimate of 99% of them adhering to the local laws, that still leaves some 12,000 people on the wrong side of the law. And those from US and the other powerful nations will be let off with a warning, but those from Asia and Africa are likely to spend at least some time in prison. So my advice to all the fans would be to keep themselves away from alcohol while being in Qatar, if they can't control themselves.