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May 06, 2021, 09:58:43 PM
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Are you talking about those streamers that stream their gambling session? All of them are paid by the casinos. The money they receive for playing goes back into the casino. As far as I know, the streamers aren't allowed to withdraw anything. Hence, they don't care at all if they win or lose.

Yes that was OP is referring to. That kind of advertisement is already usual to see so OP just have to be used on it.

OP doesn't like the way because it's like a scam although it's still up to the viewers if they will gamble on the promoted site. We can see that kind of advertisement not just in the gambling but for other services, products and even games as well.
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May 06, 2021, 09:59:02 PM
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Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.

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May 06, 2021, 10:42:06 PM
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The era of all life with modern internet technology, the cukong began to apply the idea in a content manner in creating online gambling sites that have been rife in cyberspace, It's no wonder they have a whole lot of fake strategies, tips and tricks with victims caught up in the game: roulette, blackjack, soccer betting and many others disappointed and lost.

There are thousands of ways they do to get victims trapped in their gambling, big bonus offers, top up bigger yield balances, the bottom line: if we understand it all more avoid and do in a gambling site that has a good and fair reputation.

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May 06, 2021, 10:53:05 PM
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IMO most of the streamers can't be trusted, especially the ones like you describe here, with big wins. But you can't blame them for doing it, they're getting paid for it and it's a standard advertising case, you are promised a lot in the ad - you receive barely any of that in real life. People ought to know that and use their own brains not to fall for it.

We don't blame the toothpaste companies to make people's smiles in the ads so white and shiny, while in real life it's nothing like that, right? It's just business, everyone does that. The only one to blame here is the person, that falls for the trap, not the one that sets it.
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May 06, 2021, 11:05:41 PM
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IMO most of the streamers can't be trusted, especially the ones like you describe here, with big wins. But you can't blame them for doing it, they're getting paid for it and it's a standard advertising case, you are promised a lot in the ad - you receive barely any of that in real life. People ought to know that and use their own brains not to fall for it.

We don't blame the toothpaste companies to make people's smiles in the ads so white and shiny, while in real life it's nothing like that, right? It's just business, everyone does that. The only one to blame here is the person, that falls for the trap, not the one that sets it.
You would really be the one to blame if you do let yourself fall into these kind of advertisement and make yourself believe that you could also win big time just like on what those advertisers been doing.

Its not immoral though because they are just doing their job even if its a kind of deceptive but its up to you if you believe on and since we do have our own will then its just too obvious that theyre betting

habit is something that you can see very commonly.Betting just like theres no tomorrow since they do know that its not their money to lose.


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May 06, 2021, 11:23:49 PM
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Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.
That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

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May 07, 2021, 10:26:56 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Loser , Gamblers are not fool , they knew what they are playing for and besides why sounds like very troubled ? have you lose too much because of your own foolishness falling from those traps?
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May 07, 2021, 12:57:44 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Loser , Gamblers are not fool , they knew what they are playing for and besides why sounds like very troubled ? have you lose too much because of your own foolishness falling from those traps?


Seems that he started his gambling journey just after watching those streamers and perhaps he thinks that he can get the same result with the streamers.
Advertising is everywhere in this world, we as consumers needs to be smart before deciding to choose any products.
We choose the products should not because of the advertisements but it should because we need it or we like the product.
That's how marketing or advertising works, showing a good thing of the product.
In case of gambling, 99% casinos will show big wins of their players for the marketing purpose.
It does not make senses if casinos show big loses of their players for the advertisement as it may make potential players worry/afraid to play.

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May 07, 2021, 01:20:29 PM
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We all are in this crypto world where most of the corporate players (be it crypto casino, exchange, or ICO) are out of any govt regulation.
Even online gambling.
No consumer protection law protects you, what you spend is at your own risk.

What I want to say is if we get lured into large bet gambling by watching those streamers content, and if you lost your big money as a result, who is to be blamed? Crypto gambling by default is legally grey area as everyone knows, and we should protect ourselves from its own risk..
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May 07, 2021, 02:04:14 PM
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Seems that he started his gambling journey just after watching those streamers and perhaps he thinks that he can get the same result with the streamers.
Well, even we are regulars, we still get the "poison" when someone share big wins. This is a common strategy that makes us unable to stop playing completely.
Replace the "streamers" with "friends" and you will achieve the same result  Grin

IMO the immoral marketing strategy of gambling is not promising big wins, but promising profits, ROI, etc., with the purpose of get rich quick or a job (source of income).

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May 07, 2021, 03:44:03 PM
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May 07, 2021, 04:00:41 PM
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Well, even we are regulars, we still get the "poison" when someone share big wins. This is a common strategy that makes us unable to stop playing completely.
Replace the "streamers" with "friends" and you will achieve the same result  Grin
Ohh shiiit man, I hope that doesn't refer to me Cheesy
I also get a ton of screenshots from "friends". Just wanted to say "Your Game isn't my Game", get your own passion :v

IMO the immoral marketing strategy of gambling is not promising big wins, but promising profits, ROI, etc., with the purpose of get rich quick or a job (source of income).
I never even bothered about the streamers (even watched their live streaming)

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May 07, 2021, 05:17:57 PM
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We have to keep in mind, that is called to this type of game "gambling" and not "lucky game".
When you enter this type of game, you have to keep in mind that you are going to lose, and occasionally you can win. No, the other way around.

Now, there are many ways to try to withdraw some money in these types of games. And that involves marketing strategies, but aggressive, to trick more players into getting into this type of game.

 

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May 07, 2021, 05:28:19 PM
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I didn't know that there is something like that happening in gambling(I mean streaming gambling).
We don't really know if it is scripted or what but they are also playing just like us and it is a gamble or game of chance so they might just hit it at some point.
Just remember that even if they could win huge profit in gambling not everyone could do it,
Just because it seems easy when they do it doesn't mean that it is really easy to do.
They are streamer they have experience and skills I mean some of them not those who just shows boobs or sexy image to attract viewers.

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May 07, 2021, 05:52:21 PM
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Every business tries to lure customer with some fakeness otherwise you would not be attracted towards it.Casinos are taking bets and exchanges are faking trade volumes to make their reputation and customer base strong in the market.This is becoming thier promotional strategy to make profits out of your loss.Casinos not only fake bete but pay streamers to promote their casino which place huge bets on their platform and win high multiplier and the audience also get trapped in the same.This argument have been discussed earlier also but nothing major impact was made.So it is all on you if you are interested to play and wager on any slot game then go for it and with your luck, experience, strategies you can definitely win small or huge even if they are faking it you always stand a chance.It is not that they are spending money just to fool you but they want you to play which could be an opportunity for you to win even if you loose it can be recovered with one single high multiplier if you are lucky.So try to see positive as well as negative impact of everything.

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May 07, 2021, 07:26:00 PM
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Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.
That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

Among the marketing strategies, the ones they are saying are not aggressive at all, I have seen many marketing publications that buy traffic, that move masses by promising rewards and do not fully comply with them, I think that at the moment they promise they must fulfill there for me if There is immorality or lack of professional ethics, there are many sites that take advantage of the need of others to fulfill the objective, the biggest scenarios for traffic are still Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook and forums doing shilling, the rewards they offer are sometimes very small but if many publications are made it becomes profitable, which turns people into slaves, that if it seems like a marketing that is something immoral.

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May 07, 2021, 07:32:45 PM
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Money talks!

It would be always this way and as long you get paid then you would need to make the work done and not all will be having the same impression.

There would be always those people will be fascinated when it comes to huge winnings or huge bet per roll that is something that you can see on day basis.
That’s their job so be it, casinos are just doing their strategy to market their product and no one forcing us to wager on that site, that’s still our choice to make. This is not immoral as long as its legal, and if you feel its not necessary to do so, then avoid that specific gambling site or casinos, we all have different belief.

Among the marketing strategies, the ones they are saying are not aggressive at all, I have seen many marketing publications that buy traffic, that move masses by promising rewards and do not fully comply with them, I think that at the moment they promise they must fulfill there for me if There is immorality or lack of professional ethics, there are many sites that take advantage of the need of others to fulfill the objective, the biggest scenarios for traffic are still Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, Facebook and forums doing shilling, the rewards they offer are sometimes very small but if many publications are made it becomes profitable, which turns people into slaves, that if it seems like a marketing that is something immoral.
Whenever what form or method it is then its up to personal views and impression if that kind of way is immoral or not because we do have different approach when it comes to certain things
but actually you do have some point when it comes to that. When it comes to aggressiveness then this one is just really been part but in terms of marketing as a whole
then there are lots of various ways.

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May 08, 2021, 05:40:27 AM
Last edit: May 08, 2021, 06:08:09 AM by DirtySmurf
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I absolutely hate this tactic but here is the issue. You have YouTuber's who are "undesirable" to Google AdSense  advertisers for one reason or another. Usually these YouTube Channels that are targeted by the Casinos are the ones that already don't give a shit. Most of the ones your see these casino ads on are de-monetized by there home platform of YouTube for making content that's not advertiser friendly. Some of these channels will have millions of followers but the content they make isn't family friendly so instead of making tens to hundreds of thousands from YouTube they get paid just "hundreds of dollars". The work-around is merchandise (shirts/collectibles/etc) or taking ad placements from undesirable companies.

These YouTuber's need to monetize somehow and who is there to fill that role? When I say undesirable advertisers I'm talking about casinos, cigarettes, booze, and penis pills/sex toys lol.

The big YouTuber that comes to mind is Stevewilldoit. YouTube has De-monetized the shit out of that kid so he has to take on cringe-worthy impromptu on-screen "betting style ads" from casino advertisers. If your a young de-monetized YouTuber then RooBet Casino will be there to fill your monetization needs. They seem to be the worst offender in this space. They target young, moderately sized, mostly de-monetized YouTubers. On someone like Stevewilldoit you'll see both stealth placement ads (were they appear in his video without name dropping kinda like drinking a can of coke on a sitcom but playing roobet on a youtube video) OR direct placement ad where he will straight up say "brought to you by Roobet".

To be fair they have to advertise somewhere but I I'm like most of you. I cringe when I see predatory ad tactics like these. It's one thing to advertise your  brand but to have streamers that young people look up too appearing to win insane amounts of money by recommending dangerous "foolproof" betting strategies like doubling down till you win, etc. Whats worse is some of them "pseudo-advertise" their lack of KYC rules to attact players from the USA and underage kids.

So who is to blame here? The de-monetized Youtuber's hosting risky channels or the online casinos w/ cringeworthy ads  & laughable KYC enforcement... You be the judge of that.

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May 08, 2021, 06:52:20 AM
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We all are in this crypto world where most of the corporate players (be it crypto casino, exchange, or ICO) are out of any govt regulation.
this is the reality of having in this community and we must understand that being here is already a risk so best to be knowledgeable .
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and this is why I mostly laugh in thread like this , making stuffs as if they are already a victim but the truth is they seems like having a inside motive.
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What I want to say is if we get lured into large bet gambling by watching those streamers content, and if you lost your big money as a result, who is to be blamed? Crypto gambling by default is legally grey area as everyone knows, and we should protect ourselves from its own risk..
exactly , this is our own risk and our own stupidity , because gambling is already a grey area and everything that comes inside must surely grey.









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May 08, 2021, 07:28:07 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


Education is the only thing that can stop people falling for these tricks, unfortunately the best education you will receive is sometimes losing money and using the pain of that experience to avoiding repeating the same mistake. It is sad that these "influencers" are able to get away with it and some countries have cracked down on this form of deceitful marketing, however it can be very hard to prove what is really taking place unless. These sort of tricks take place all throughout life, which is why you have to learn critical thinking skills and look at every angle like you did. Understanding that these gambling operations are a business that makes money from losing players is what you always need to consider when placing a bet. Some games like poker or live blackjack can possibly be gamed in favor of an intelligent player, but slots are literally random number generators with flashy graphics designed to move your money to the casino's pocket.

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