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May 10, 2021, 11:39:32 PM
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I don’t think you can blame the advertiser for trying to make their product appear as exciting as possible. As long as their games are provably honest and they aren’t doing anything other than what they have promised their customers, I don’t think there’s an issue. It’s not like they’re going to show you someone losing their retirement savings and their family after using their site…
It's still on the players discretion to play on that site if everything was already seen by them. The thing is if you want to play on a site you're not familiar with then better to DYOR, that's the best thing every player/gambler can do.
I'm afraid that DYOR is the very thing that sometimes leads people to watch those streamers. Some people perceive these vids as reviews on certain casinos. I mean, this actually sounds insane, I thought everyone knew that they're getting paid for it, and the streamers are sometimes even open about such things. But, judging from the OP's post, apparently not  Cheesy
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May 10, 2021, 11:45:22 PM
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Not only critical thinking but also having that common sense you would need because there are things in life that we do encounter which are bit obvious.Even  without having sufficient experience or learning

but too wary on how things works or whats happening around you then most likely you would really be able to detect it out.Yeah, this can be considered to be a trick since this is a deceptive way of marketing

where those advertisers been using those sponsored money just to show off that they are really spending their own money from their pocket and making out huge bets as if theyre affected when they lost

but the truth is that they dont really just care at all and do only mind on the pay on where the company would be giving out later on.
Gambling attracts people who cannot keep their emotions in check, that is the main target audience for them. Which means when you do marketing like this, you are telling people who can see the reality "we are not interested in you if you can see the reality" and when people who have no idea how fake these streamer things are you tell them "oh wow he did that!! come on in maybe you can do it too!" and that is the type of people casinos want to attract. Why?

Because if you are a smarter person and know what you are doing, you will not end up losing too much money in a weird way, of course people can still lose money and that's fine, there are people who lose tens of millions of dollars, but the point here is that you may not end up losing too much to idiotic moves, if you make smart moves you could still lose tens of millions of dollars if you are a rich person.
You got the point!

Experienced ones would always have the edge when it comes to decision making and able to avoid possible unfortunate events since they are aware on whats happening in all sorts of things around.

It might not be precisely 100% because theres no such thing about knowing everything on this world but having experience and awareness on various industries or on how things works
or on how the scheme works would really be saving you out once you do encounter it.

Businesses would really be creating such methods or ways just for them to hook out players no matter what kind of way it is.It doesnt matter if it would be deceptive type or being honest
as long they can benefit out then that what matter most.

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May 10, 2021, 11:55:34 PM
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Casino is a lucrative business and people just like money that could be earned instantly with just a click. Even without the streamer influencers casino will always attract players.  You can see the same names coming up over and over in "ALL BETS". But its all marketing still.

The one strategy that's very much disliked is the kid's logo or cute fluffy mascot which could attract kids to gambling.

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May 11, 2021, 01:27:04 AM
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Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.

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May 11, 2021, 05:18:14 AM
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Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.
Exactly, and if you don't know that advertising isn't an exaggerated or a scripted thing then you are probably a stupid person. I don't see how immoral it is to advertise with scripted events because that's the only way to make it attractive to potential clients, you won't go to a gambling site that advertises with people lossing in their platform no?
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May 11, 2021, 05:24:16 AM
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This is just another form of promotion and as marketing strategy it has been already pointed out several time and some country/youtuber more impacted.
It's should be declared clearly that there is a "connection" or a "promo" between the two sides like any other advertisement on social network.

Most of users are very expert about casinos and are pretty aware about these fake wins/promo.
The real problem, could arise when promotion will involve a scam casino or any other shady gambling site.

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May 11, 2021, 05:59:41 AM
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Yeah you're right. They promoting and to attract people they need to say all the good things of their business. Have you heard advertisement telling bad about their business? No. Advertisement is like applying for a job. You selling yourself, you tell everything good that makes you perfect fit for the role so you can get the position. That's the strategy and it for me it's not immoral. What ever the result of your gambling it's all your choice and decision nothing to do with the advertisement or people promote you.
That's what I am trying to say bro, no one is going to tell the truth if it doesn't benefit them the slightest and knows that telling it will be detrimental as to whether they are going to be attractive to clients or employers. I don't get how people aren't getting that this has been the thing in advertising ever since.
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May 11, 2021, 09:17:57 AM
 #108

Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.

The requirement for minimum age exists because so that people have some sense of maturity and understating about value of money and its consequences if they lose it all. So every one need to ensure that they only gamble what they have and how much they can lose if they end up losing it.  So onus lies on individuals in the end.

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May 11, 2021, 10:01:21 AM
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Casino is a lucrative business and people just like money that could be earned instantly with just a click. Even without the streamer influencers casino will always attract players.  You can see the same names coming up over and over in "ALL BETS". But its all marketing still.
Majority of them are and that's for sure, Because gambling tend for those who had a Big Brain and not for stupid losers  Grin

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The one strategy that's very much disliked is the kid's logo or cute fluffy mascot which could attract kids to gambling.

And that is Illegal when you use to lure kids , and also will attract negative impact even in the regular gamblers that has children .









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May 11, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
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Sooner you will understand Mate why this kind of strategy in marketing is in demand now. and why People still attracted to play in those sites even if they already knew about that style.
You only need to be mature and knowledgeable and not just crying like a child in things that you are not really affected.









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May 11, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
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This is just another form of promotion and as marketing strategy it has been already pointed out several time and some country/youtuber more impacted.
It's should be declared clearly that there is a "connection" or a "promo" between the two sides like any other advertisement on social network.

Most of users are very expert about casinos and are pretty aware about these fake wins/promo.
The real problem, could arise when promotion will involve a scam casino or any other shady gambling site.


I don't think that the problem is with promoting any shady sites per se.

Most people who promote gambling sites on Youtube generally do so as an affiliate of some pretty well known sites (Duelbits, Roobet etc. where legitimacy is not really an issue).

What is really important is that they are concealing the fact that they are not playing with their own money, and they are able to pick and choose at what pieces of footage they want to keep (obviously the ones where they win) and which ones to discard.

That's the real danger here.
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May 11, 2021, 12:08:52 PM
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I don't think that the problem is with promoting any shady sites per se.

Most people who promote gambling sites on Youtube generally do so as an affiliate of some pretty well known sites (Duelbits, Roobet etc. where legitimacy is not really an issue).

What is really important is that they are concealing the fact that they are not playing with their own money, and they are able to pick and choose at what pieces of footage they want to keep (obviously the ones where they win) and which ones to discard.

That's the real danger here.

It's been an ongoing thing. Despite getting called out, those operators are either ignoring or not bother to address the concerns. So far no repercussions as long as players continue to flock to the site.

One of the advertisers here is known to offer the "Howie deal".

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May 11, 2021, 12:13:39 PM
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Sooner you will understand Mate why this kind of strategy in marketing is in demand now. and why People still attracted to play in those sites even if they already knew about that style.
You only need to be mature and knowledgeable and not just crying like a child in things that you are not really affected.
I think that OP will have a hard time grasping the truth or OP could be in denial about it since I assume that OP has seen ads on televisions really different in real life.

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May 12, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
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Sooner you will understand Mate why this kind of strategy in marketing is in demand now. and why People still attracted to play in those sites even if they already knew about that style.
You only need to be mature and knowledgeable and not just crying like a child in things that you are not really affected.
I think that OP will have a hard time grasping the truth or OP could be in denial about it since I assume that OP has seen ads on televisions really different in real life.
Expectation vs Reality?

This is mostly true and its up to someone if they could take it or not.When it comes to marketing then these things arent really that new.

It isnt immoral because its clear that most funds been used are sponsored by the house or company.Its part of the strategy or marketing for them to get players.

If you do find it to be immoral then you can choose nor decide for yourself.

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May 12, 2021, 08:42:44 PM
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Every decision to play the slots is the responsibility of each person himself. Every time you play, at the same time you have to be ready to accept defeat or victory, there is nothing wrong with that. You just need to prepare well, whether you have a strategy to win or not.

The requirement for minimum age exists because so that people have some sense of maturity and understating about value of money and its consequences if they lose it all. So every one need to ensure that they only gamble what they have and how much they can lose if they end up losing it.  So onus lies on individuals in the end.


Regarding this issue, it is sometimes delicate, in some places but traditional casinos restrict the passage to minors, however they are things that are often negotiated and let them pass, since they are under the guidance of older adults. Whenever there are sites that allow the passage of minors, it is because they have raffles, such as bingo halls, raffles, sometimes sports bets, but above all the ones that are lost the most is when horse races are held, which is very easy to lose the money there.

When a person sits at a slot machine, either in person or online, the person knows that they must first have fun, that they forget that they are out of necessity to win, otherwise the disappointment will be unique. In that case of minors, I do not know how immoral it is that they can play or access games of chance, it is in the latent possibilities, especially in online sites.

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May 12, 2021, 11:55:23 PM
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This is just another form of promotion and as marketing strategy it has been already pointed out several time and some country/youtuber more impacted.
It's should be declared clearly that there is a "connection" or a "promo" between the two sides like any other advertisement on social network.

Most of users are very expert about casinos and are pretty aware about these fake wins/promo.
The real problem, could arise when promotion will involve a scam casino or any other shady gambling site.


I don't think that the problem is with promoting any shady sites per se.

Most people who promote gambling sites on Youtube generally do so as an affiliate of some pretty well known sites (Duelbits, Roobet etc. where legitimacy is not really an issue).

What is really important is that they are concealing the fact that they are not playing with their own money, and they are able to pick and choose at what pieces of footage they want to keep (obviously the ones where they win) and which ones to discard.

That's the real danger here.
I don't see a danger here, tbh. Who in the right mind seeing a video of someone doing an extraordinary thing thinks "Oh, great, I can do the same!"? We all know that winning with very high payouts/multipliers on slots is a very rare thing. If some people have false expectations after seeing those vids, idk, they should go see a doctor, probably.
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May 13, 2021, 06:29:33 AM
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I don't see a danger here, tbh. Who in the right mind seeing a video of someone doing an extraordinary thing thinks "Oh, great, I can do the same!"? We all know that winning with very high payouts/multipliers on slots is a very rare thing. If some people have false expectations after seeing those vids, idk, they should go see a doctor, probably.
I think that such YouTube commercials and fake streams are not harmless.  The operation of such advertising methods is more complicated.  Even if a person clearly understands that these are fake videos, the thought still gets into the subconscious, "what if it really works out"?  And this is also an incentive for playing vabank.  So I see the harm from such advertising.  Especially when scam projects do it.
And rightly so, that at least in BTT, OP created a topic to expose such scammers.

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May 13, 2021, 03:03:20 PM
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This has been the practice by many gambling sites but that doesn't mean that the gambling site is a scam, they employ many strategies and tactics so they can attract new players to their site, you cannot stop them it's up to you if you want to play and you should understand the risk of gambling, do not be a newbie who believes on everything you see online, you cannot be a crusader but you can educate people.
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May 13, 2021, 09:03:11 PM
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Another thing that happens, are people who are somehow known and are happy with certain bets. Bookmakers take advantage of the fact that this happens to a known person, to advertise.

This happened recently with a Portuguese comedian. Allegedly, he made a combination of bets, and was happy with all of them. Both he and the bookmaker announced this feat.
https://www.ojogo.pt/insolito/noticias/fernando-rocha-apostou-em-cheio-e-lucrou-mais-de-13-mil-euros--13713590.html

Now, do you think, he also didn’t earn extra money from the bookmaker, to announce his victory? Certainly won, but that part of the story is not revealed.
This is actually a simple strategy, if any famous person has a great victory, they advertise it. Giving a bonus for this announcement.

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May 13, 2021, 11:12:58 PM
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This has been the practice by many gambling sites but that doesn't mean that the gambling site is a scam, they employ many strategies and tactics so they can attract new players to their site, you cannot stop them it's up to you if you want to play and you should understand the risk of gambling, do not be a newbie who believes on everything you see online, you cannot be a crusader but you can educate people.

Everyone cant be pleased and there are really people who sees these things to be that a serious matter thats why they saying its an immoral thing but rather a typical marketing stragegy.

If you are person who does know about these scheme or set-up then better avoid that calling it immoral or treating it as a scam because its just part of strategies for them to get players.
Its isnt just right to be called immoral.

There are various ways other than this but these is a bit more in focused due to accessibility and potential users who could watch online.

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