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May 20, 2021, 12:56:12 AM
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Expectation vs Reality?

This is mostly true and its up to someone if they could take it or not.When it comes to marketing then these things arent really that new.

It isnt immoral because its clear that most funds been used are sponsored by the house or company.Its part of the strategy or marketing for them to get players.

If you do find it to be immoral then you can choose nor decide for yourself.
Well, if you aren't living in a country that doesn't actively punishes advertisers that deceive the people by making exaggerated product placements on their product/services then you have to just roll with it since they are just doing their job and that's what their school have taught them. I don't find it immoral since everyone has to look good so the first impression is good, I can't blame them for that.
Advertisement is everywhere, and the main reason of advertising is to make those people to buy a product or use the service, so the company will get profits from it that is why they are ready to spend a lot of money on advertisements because they know it is important for a business to grow next level. Lets take all these signature campaigns, these are here to get more customers for them but it doesn't mean they are cheating or doing anything wrong.
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May 20, 2021, 05:35:33 AM
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Expectation vs Reality?

This is mostly true and its up to someone if they could take it or not.When it comes to marketing then these things arent really that new.

It isnt immoral because its clear that most funds been used are sponsored by the house or company.Its part of the strategy or marketing for them to get players.

If you do find it to be immoral then you can choose nor decide for yourself.
Well, if you aren't living in a country that doesn't actively punishes advertisers that deceive the people by making exaggerated product placements on their product/services then you have to just roll with it since they are just doing their job and that's what their school have taught them. I don't find it immoral since everyone has to look good so the first impression is good, I can't blame them for that.
Advertisement is everywhere, and the main reason of advertising is to make those people to buy a product or use the service, so the company will get profits from it that is why they are ready to spend a lot of money on advertisements because they know it is important for a business to grow next level. Lets take all these signature campaigns, these are here to get more customers for them but it doesn't mean they are cheating or doing anything wrong.
Let the loser cry but the mature gambler won't fall from those traps.

We must consider Gambling is one of the most Criminal Loved place in which means all the evil forces are inside to make money , so if you are not ready for this then find place where you can enjoy without risking being fooled or Lured.
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May 20, 2021, 06:29:22 AM
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Let the loser cry but the mature gambler won't fall from those traps.

We must consider Gambling is one of the most Criminal Loved place in which means all the evil forces are inside to make money , so if you are not ready for this then find place where you can enjoy without risking being fooled or Lured.
Not everyone who is angry are bad and not everyone who is smiling are good, its just the way how they are so we should never consider the gambling is a criminal activity and people who are gambling are criminals.

It's just for everyone, so don't miss the fun out there.
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May 20, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
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Let the loser cry but the mature gambler won't fall from those traps.

We must consider Gambling is one of the most Criminal Loved place in which means all the evil forces are inside to make money , so if you are not ready for this then find place where you can enjoy without risking being fooled or Lured.
Not everyone who is angry are bad and not everyone who is smiling are good, its just the way how they are so we should never consider the gambling is a criminal activity and people who are gambling are criminals.

It's just for everyone, so don't miss the fun out there.

its a fine line in marketing because the goal is to make people join the casino and become a gambler. nothing can be called crime when its not violating a law. its just the ness we see on tv today, the badder and exagerrated the news is, the more it gets interesting fod viewers but in reality its just exagerrated by the tv station kinda marketing.

if you got tempted and signup and then your credit card details are stolen, thats when you can consider there is a crime.
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May 20, 2021, 02:51:20 PM
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Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
This is just not right. You can say the same to every drug addict. "These drug addicts deserve to be addicted, because they tried it out". Why is this not corrrect? Every person can be a gambler if she or he is in a bad shape for a couple of reasons. This kind of (stupid) marketing cann of course trigger very bad behaviour.
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May 21, 2021, 07:44:17 PM
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Expectation vs Reality?

This is mostly true and its up to someone if they could take it or not.When it comes to marketing then these things arent really that new.

It isnt immoral because its clear that most funds been used are sponsored by the house or company.Its part of the strategy or marketing for them to get players.

If you do find it to be immoral then you can choose nor decide for yourself.
Well, if you aren't living in a country that doesn't actively punishes advertisers that deceive the people by making exaggerated product placements on their product/services then you have to just roll with it since they are just doing their job and that's what their school have taught them. I don't find it immoral since everyone has to look good so the first impression is good, I can't blame them for that.
Advertisement is everywhere, and the main reason of advertising is to make those people to buy a product or use the service, so the company will get profits from it that is why they are ready to spend a lot of money on advertisements because they know it is important for a business to grow next level. Lets take all these signature campaigns, these are here to get more customers for them but it doesn't mean they are cheating or doing anything wrong.
There's only some differentiating thing among the methods that had been used but honestly they are all just the same or share the same goal or target which is to hook up players.

It is just it didnt really passed on some people's standards when it comes to morality on where they do see up these things to be immoral and a bit deceiving and thats why they do mainly react.

Marketing does play an important role on a business success and its no surprise that the will allocated bigger budget for that but doesnt mean that success would be a guaranteed thing.
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May 21, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
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Why do you care? Are they forcing you to wager your money? Did they put a gun on your head? No. Whoever is falling for that scam and wagers more that he could afford to lose deserves to lose that money.

I bet most of the high rollers you see in the casino scoreboards are fakes. (maybe all of them)
This is just not right. You can say the same to every drug addict. "These drug addicts deserve to be addicted, because they tried it out". Why is this not corrrect? Every person can be a gambler if she or he is in a bad shape for a couple of reasons. This kind of (stupid) marketing cann of course trigger very bad behaviour.
^ I agree! This approach is somehow unfair. The streamers should know that they have an influence on their viewers and everything that they do is the basis of someone else’s decision. Imagine having that mindset that you are just entertaining people and suddenly someone placed their life savings to the platform and lost? Can your stomach take that? Nevertheless, is guilt present when you realized that you are fooling people in exchange for your own benefit? I don’t think so!
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May 21, 2021, 09:58:15 PM
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Well, I think the best reaction for this is to raise awareness to the people and the viewers that these players are somehow being sponsored by the gambling platforms to perform such things and to promote the platform. The algorithm is still the same though, I think we should focus on what we are doing and our gambling strategies and don’t mind them. That is the least we can do about it. As long as they don’t hurt us and force us to place bets then I think that’s good for me.









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May 22, 2021, 04:23:04 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


It's good that you posted it here to raise awareness among new gamblers. The truth is that internet is full of fraudsters and scammers trying to gain benefit out of others.
We shouldn't believe everything that we see on the internet. To be honest we can't really do anything about those people but raise general awareness about them on various social platforms and forums.

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May 22, 2021, 10:30:32 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


It's good that you posted it here to raise awareness among new gamblers. The truth is that internet is full of fraudsters and scammers trying to gain benefit out of others.
We shouldn't believe everything that we see on the internet. To be honest we can't really do anything about those people but raise general awareness about them on various social platforms and forums.
Its not actually a fraud since they arent really forcing anyone to play on a certain site but somewhat these kind of behavior is really on the deceptive side which lots would really be having the impression that this thing is immoral since this is really misleading or making out those false hope specially to newbies that winning big is possible into this site but if we do really think off that those money being spent or use is being sponsored by the house unless if the influencer would announce that it isnt his money being spent but its unlikely to happen from time to time and rather those influencers would just simply play as if those money are their own.
So its up to someones awareness and a bit of common sense if they would able to find it out even if you are a noob, you can still sense it up.

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May 22, 2021, 11:07:35 PM
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Well, I think the best reaction for this is to raise awareness to the people and the viewers that these players are somehow being sponsored by the gambling platforms to perform such things and to promote the platform.
They are not just players but they are influencers and AFAIK, they're telling that they've been sponsored unless they are really dishonest and don't disclose that they're misleading their viewers.
The algorithm is still the same though, I think we should focus on what we are doing and our gambling strategies and don’t mind them. That is the least we can do about it. As long as they don’t hurt us and force us to place bets then I think that’s good for me.
I agree, just ignore it if you don't like it and inform the community that they're based of what you're noticing if you want to voice out.

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May 25, 2021, 06:07:57 AM
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Well, I think the best reaction for this is to raise awareness to the people and the viewers that these players are somehow being sponsored by the gambling platforms to perform such things and to promote the platform.
They are not just players but they are influencers and AFAIK, they're telling that they've been sponsored unless they are really dishonest and don't disclose that they're misleading their viewers.
The algorithm is still the same though, I think we should focus on what we are doing and our gambling strategies and don’t mind them. That is the least we can do about it. As long as they don’t hurt us and force us to place bets then I think that’s good for me.
I agree, just ignore it if you don't like it and inform the community that they're based of what you're noticing if you want to voice out.
we are all in gambling for sole purpose . and that is MONEY.. Only hypocrite will say that they are only playing to make fun because the truth is the winning is what target means.

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December 02, 2021, 07:13:45 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.
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December 02, 2021, 07:27:30 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.

You shouldnt bumped an old thread yet this is against on forum rules on which means you should avoid it up on the future to avoid some possible problems to be faced on.

On topic reply on where these strategies are really common.Sounds non ethical right? Doesnt really matter much because they dont really care at all.

As long they could make out some money or income which they wont believe into those sayings or criticisms or comments externally.
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December 02, 2021, 07:34:32 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.


Now there is a situation where fake people are becoming more and more prevalent, as a result of which people are believing in fake things and joining various fake companies. There are a lot of companies that spend a lot of money on marketing but do not pay any attention to improving their services, which is risky for the common people.
In order to earn money, people promote companies that can be dangerous for others and they can lose their money there.

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December 02, 2021, 09:50:30 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


While there should be no doubt that many streamers out there are fake and given casino account balances that have not been paid for at all. It's worth a reminder that lots of (at least the ones not provably fair, usually fiat currency) of casinos will rig the games depending on the historical user deposits and remaining funds. These casinos want to keep players engrossed as long as possible, they want players to chase the few large wins while ignoring the many small losses. Just like real world casinos which are psychologically geared towards creating habits and confusing gamblers, these online sites can be even more devious when it comes to squeezing money out of players and will run all sorts of algorithms to maximize the amount you spend with them.

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December 02, 2021, 10:02:29 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Casino streamers should be treated with caution anyway. Because as you say, it's ADVERTISING THE CASINO!
And advertising is essential for such a company.
However, everyone should be aware that advertising should not always be taken 100% seriously.

Personally, I don't watch casino streams, if only because there's too much screaming going on. And that's without exception in every stream, regardless of the streamer.

And whoever gets triggered by something like that obviously has a problem with gambling, I think...

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December 02, 2021, 10:03:25 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you are talking about here. It's the same strategy everywhere. I agree that everything should be transparent and the genuine users should be making their own statements and sharing their own experiences rather than these performers (or should I say actors). Experience sharing shoudl be genunies rather than faking it.


Now there is a situation where fake people are becoming more and more prevalent, as a result of which people are believing in fake things and joining various fake companies. There are a lot of companies that spend a lot of money on marketing but do not pay any attention to improving their services, which is risky for the common people.
In order to earn money, people promote companies that can be dangerous for others and they can lose their money there.
They wouldnt care if it means on earning money, they wouldnt really mind off if they would be putting other people in trouble of losing money or in addiction as long they do make out money or salary for said promotion or advertising then that what matter most to them.

Agree on that part on where fake people becoming more prevalent and this is why as a newbie or zero knowledge on something kind of person
then its not really bad to make use of your common sense and made out some little bit research.

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December 02, 2021, 11:07:41 PM
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The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.
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December 02, 2021, 11:13:58 PM
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The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.


I don't trust these streamers, when promoting casinos or projects related to the investment they are good at making hype and deceiving their viewers from the reality of betting, newbies or new to gambling should take it from honest players that talk straight about the condition and reality of the gambling world because veteran players understand the risk and mentality of new players, they've been to that situation before and they don't want new players to suffer the pain of losing and don not want to have a fake expectations.

I guess, everyone knows already the job of these streamers, to attract more players on the site they are being paid to advertised. So if you know they are being paid, why should you believe what they are endorsing? Fake winnings and all. No one is obliging you to play on their site, they are only banking for gullible users who will be deceived by their misleading fake winnings. So in the end, it is up to the user if he will be attracted by seemingly too-good-to-be-true winnings.

The end point here always matter on what people preferred on why they play on gambling sites since if they are there since they are been hype for  the winnings shown by those streamers then for sure they cannot get a good scenario while playing on the hype site they are on. But if they seek for fun and just there for just interaction only then provably they will not get hurt for situation on it. To good to be true profit show is not true so people should always think about that.

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