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December 26, 2021, 10:27:23 PM
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We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
Self awareness should be enough but there are people who do let these things to let it pass and tend to believe that it could be possibly done by them which would triggers out your greediness inside.
Marketing could really be deceptive one or would really be that tempting or as attractive as it could be since the primary motive would always be hooking up players as much as they can or could.
Doesnt really matter if it turns out to be that immoral on others eyes or not as long they could benefit out then that what surely counts.

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December 26, 2021, 10:28:53 PM
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Promotion is one way for a site or company to introduce their products to many people, and in this case streamers have an important role in doing so, not infrequently many sites actually put morality aside just to advance their company or site, for example, such gambling sites that often use beautiful and sexy women as streamers, many casinos that make sexy women an attraction for consumers to join or gamble on their sites so far, but in this case the decision to play or not necessarily depends on our own decisions, so far many gamblers who get caught up in scams just because they believe in what they are advertising all along with the attractiveness of a woman, if logically we think, aren't we looking for really trusted casinos and not looking for women to date, then why should we join casinos just because they showing isn't it a woman?

You are very right about that. What's the purpose of going to casino? It is not about looking for someone to hook up. So one should not distracted by this kind of promotion of the casino via attractive streamers or endorsers. You should look what's in store for you as a player. Check their provable fairness, or if there's any negative feedback towards them. Because at the end of the day, it is the decision of the player to play on the site. You all have the privilege to choose where you want to spend your money.
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December 26, 2021, 10:40:15 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

whatever marketing trick the gambling platform uses doesn't matter because it's not illegal, but what we need to pay attention to is that it's just a marketing trick, there are no real wins, they are paid by the owner of the gambling site they endorse. it was once revealed that someone was given a virtual balance by a gambling site (their marketing team) and was assigned to make a live video of how he made big and fast money on that gambling site.
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December 26, 2021, 10:40:34 PM
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You are very right about that. What's the purpose of going to casino? It is not about looking for someone to hook up. So one should not distracted by this kind of promotion of the casino via attractive streamers or endorsers. You should look what's in store for you as a player. Check their provable fairness, or if there's any negative feedback towards them. Because at the end of the day, it is the decision of the player to play on the site. You all have the privilege to choose where you want to spend your money.

Well, that is true. But the first thing the casino wants is to attract visitors to their platform. The company believes that "attractive streamers or endorsers" are the "first step" to attracting visitors who are likely to spend more in their casino. This is an active strategy, and we can see its effects throughout the entire casino ecosystem. As digital influencers try to get more subscribers, the big casinos have all rushed to get an influencer as a paid partner. While influencer marketing is still relatively new, it's a fast-growing field.

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December 27, 2021, 02:42:20 AM
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We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.



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December 27, 2021, 05:35:08 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

whatever marketing trick the gambling platform uses doesn't matter because it's not illegal, but what we need to pay attention to is that it's just a marketing trick, there are no real wins, they are paid by the owner of the gambling site they endorse. it was once revealed that someone was given a virtual balance by a gambling site (their marketing team) and was assigned to make a live video of how he made big and fast money on that gambling site.
They really need to come up with an effective strategy in order to attract the gamblers to play on their site. In some way, its true that you can win big if you gamble but its not going to be easy and will only happen if we're lucky. So if you can be easily convince by these streamers then you might really end up to gamble on that particular site without even thinking of the possible consequences.

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December 27, 2021, 01:49:51 PM
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All governments in different countries regulate advertising bans differently.  In some countries, for example, you cannot advertise alcoholic beverages, and beer is allowed only at night.  It is definitely impossible to advertise only narcotic drugs in all countries.  However, medicines can be advertised publicly through the media in some underdeveloped countries.  And at the same time they formally write - see a doctor!  Smiley
As for advertising of gambling, the picture here is ambiguous.  Therefore, it will not work to prohibit these advertisements.  
To be honest, I haven't received any valuable information from viewing ads for a long time.  And just try not to watch or listen to anything like that.  Unfortunately, this is almost impossible.  For example, when you watch YouTube without a paid subscription.  So this is just horror as boring.

Yeah, but OP is talking about another kind of advertisement, videos that for some people don't look like ads at all. Video bloggers just showing their slot sessions when they win big money occasionally. I personally like to watch such vids(except their screaming, especially of the older guys, it's repelling. I mean, a young woman squealing with excitement is one thing, but an older guy, well...). As people are saying in this thread, you just shouldn't think that what happened to them should necessarily happen to you.

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December 27, 2021, 07:49:48 PM
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F*ckin hell, this debate is still going Cheesy
Beautiful girls advertising/endorsing beauty products is also immoral since they are beautiful since birth and not because of the products.
Nothing 100% honest in the advertisement, and everyone knows streamer is just an entertainer, not a pro gambler.
There is a line in which we can or cannot act since it's in the grey area. Altcoin shill, NFT shill, Play2Earn shill, sponsored slot streamer, even Bitcoin shill is in the same category. I don't encourage the practice, but it's just how the world works.
You are really on point. I don't think there is anything bad when it comes to shilling for a few dollars. Maybe we don't know that the signature campaigns we are in and the avatar is part of shilling and influencing projects and site to new people that doesn't know about it. Every we are doing is advertisement and we shouldn't ignore the fact that influencers are doing the same thing here.

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December 27, 2021, 08:04:32 PM
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F*ckin hell, this debate is still going Cheesy
Beautiful girls advertising/endorsing beauty products is also immoral since they are beautiful since birth and not because of the products.
Nothing 100% honest in the advertisement, and everyone knows streamer is just an entertainer, not a pro gambler.
There is a line in which we can or cannot act since it's in the grey area. Altcoin shill, NFT shill, Play2Earn shill, sponsored slot streamer, even Bitcoin shill is in the same category. I don't encourage the practice, but it's just how the world works.
You are really on point. I don't think there is anything bad when it comes to shilling for a few dollars. Maybe we don't know that the signature campaigns we are in and the avatar is part of shilling and influencing projects and site to new people that doesn't know about it. Every we are doing is advertisement and we shouldn't ignore the fact that influencers are doing the same thing here.
Exactly, now you know that you are shilling with your signature even you know that you have been tagged on that campaign and even you know that there's an unsolved issue on that casino but yet, you are still wearing the signature just because of the dollar. In the same situation as that, there's no really good and honest when it comes to this marketing strategy but if we expand our knowledge and skills on how to determine right and wrong, there could be a chance that you will be safe from those threats because you already know the fact and the consequences.
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December 27, 2021, 08:09:31 PM
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whatever marketing trick the gambling platform uses doesn't matter because it's not illegal, but what we need to pay attention to is that it's just a marketing trick, there are no real wins, they are paid by the owner of the gambling site they endorse. it was once revealed that someone was given a virtual balance by a gambling site (their marketing team) and was assigned to make a live video of how he made big and fast money on that gambling site.
They really need to come up with an effective strategy in order to attract the gamblers to play on their site. In some way, its true that you can win big if you gamble but its not going to be easy and will only happen if we're lucky. So if you can be easily convince by these streamers then you might really end up to gamble on that particular site without even thinking of the possible consequences.
That's right, only luck makes us win especially when playing slots and even worse, that streamers seem to know that today when they are live they will win big. Their scenario looks very original, newbies who are curious about what they see will definitely be intrigued and end up playing on the gambling site without thinking anything else, all they think about is the same winning result as the streamers.
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December 27, 2021, 08:35:16 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

You don't seem to understand what is actually immoral about this type of behavior.  It sounds like you're suggesting that these are faked streams from users who have some sort of nefarious intent to trick users.  That isn't really what's happening at all.  The immoral part of these types of streams is that the streamer isn't using their own money.  They are given money in their account for free to gamble with.  Viewers think the streamer would risk their own money, when in reality they never would.  The wins you see are real though.  The only thing that is fake is that they have nothing on the line if they lose.

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December 27, 2021, 09:24:19 PM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

You don't seem to understand what is actually immoral about this type of behavior.  It sounds like you're suggesting that these are faked streams from users who have some sort of nefarious intent to trick users.  That isn't really what's happening at all.  The immoral part of these types of streams is that the streamer isn't using their own money.  They are given money in their account for free to gamble with.  Viewers think the streamer would risk their own money, when in reality they never would.  The wins you see are real though.  The only thing that is fake is that they have nothing on the line if they lose.

I don't know how you get the Idea that I don't understand the perspective of morality which you mentioned. In fact that is the very spirit of my argument ( They are not using their own money and by performance giving us impression).
Since you are a learned and wise member perhaps I did not understand your perspective, if that is case please elaborate.
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December 27, 2021, 09:41:42 PM
 #273

We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.

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December 27, 2021, 09:49:09 PM
 #274

We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Speaking of reality then majority of us wouldnt mind on others situation or would tend to be saving up their asses for our ownselves and wont mind into those who doesnt bother on making use of their

common sense.Of course we do have that own self will on making out decisions but there are people who do really decide up without even thinking about those probabilities which do really

end up on a disaster or some headache.When it comes to marketing and on being immoral or something not ethical then its a business and deception would be always a part of it.

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December 28, 2021, 03:52:28 AM
 #275

We can do with everything that we want if it's regarded to the money that we own. We can gamble if want to. But we can also avoid and ignore it as the usual thing that happens.
Those that have been attracted to offers, that's the goal of those ads and if you're not attracted to it, then that's it. And, you just can't stop the others from being attracted to it. We have the situations that make us attracted and not. They're marketing and that's the main purpose of those ads and if it's coming from an influencer that you like or not, you also have the free will to avoid or not.
Yes, we can not stop the others but we can stop ourselves from the attraction. Hopefully, we will not spend too much money on playing gambling because we have another thing that we need to fill. So that depends on how we act with the offers or the promotions that we see in many places. If we can hold and not tempt playing gambling, we will not go to that place instead just use our time to the other things. So we can say that they can create any ads they want and use many ways to attract people but we need always to be careful and take care of our money.
Yes, it should start from us and there's no complaint that shall be put upon when the result manifested on you. You're aware of yourself and with these ads.
The money you'll be spending is yours and much better that it is really yours and not from a loan or borrowed from someone you know.
I think we can give an example to them by having awareness and not putting ourselves into trouble so they will look at how we can handle the promotion with good. We can do that and they can also do that. It is about how you can have an effort to handle your mind when you see something about promotions. We can not stop but we can give them suggestions and decide by ourselves.
Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.



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December 28, 2021, 05:41:08 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

Many deny you because they care about the bad ones. But actually, what you're proposing here is a way to see how caring it is between fellow gamblers. Although gambling houses only provide a place and we bet for the sake of winning money, but realize sharing in gambling it is necessary for once upon a time.
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December 28, 2021, 07:14:18 AM
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Some of you guys must have watched high stake slot players in their pajamas rolling thousands of dollars in single spin, buying hundred of thousands worth of bonus spins. If you notice closely yo will found the same pattern all over again and again. They start with loosing most of their bank roll (almost 80-90%), and then going all in at last and guess what, bingo!!! they hit hundreds of thousands of dollars. Very few of them write in their stream discerption about rolling with fake money (or money of which they can only cash out like 1%). Almost all of them scream loudly and show us that they are winning it in real, some are very good at faking it, which attracts lots of new gamblers (with false expectations) and they end up loosing it all which ultimately leads to social disharmony.
The argument they provide is as follow, ''we are entertainers/performers''. This need to be stopped. I am creating this thread to discuss such issues and to warn other new comers about the potential loss. If you have found such streamers please post here so that it can be helpful for new players to make realistic decisions.

No matter what the casino or their hire person, it is our responsibility to be careful if we want to play gambling because that is our money. We do not want to lose much money. We need to remember that playing gambling is risky, and we can lose money anytime and only with be careful we can avoid the big loss in gambling.
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December 28, 2021, 09:12:33 AM
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Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.

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December 28, 2021, 09:22:56 AM
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They are gamblers most of them which make more money by getting and attracting a lot of new followers in their Youtube channels rather than from gambling actually.Of course most of them can be paid from gambling sites to promote themselves there and in their description to offer referral links with bonus attached to them to play in a specific casino which is their sponsor.This is a very normal marketing strategy if you ask me,I see nothing immoral here.

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December 29, 2021, 04:52:03 AM
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Just be good to yourself and avoid it as much as you can for them to see how you're enduring and avoiding it. And if the other gamblers do what you've done, you've became an example already to them.
But if not and they still have fallen, it's no longer your problem just save yourself from it.
Hopefully, that can make them realize that they can do what we did so they do not have to get in too deep in the gambling industry. They need to prevent themselves from the addiction because once they are addicted to gambling, that will be difficult to get out and will really need help from others. Maybe we can guide those who get too far in gambling, especially if they are our friends who are close to us.
It's difficult to get out if you're already addicted to it. But even it's too difficult to get out, there's still a way for you to do so that you're still not that bad as the others.
You're the one that can control yourself and do avoid things that will make you attract like those marketing that you see online. You do the initiative if you want to do good.
I admitted that it is difficult but that depends on our will to get out of the addiction. My friend in real life almost gets too deep in gambling, but luckily, we can save him and drag him out from the dark and give an understanding to him while we still guide and have beside them. The initiative, an effort, will, and want to change to the better things will be why they stop gambling forever.



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