[Brief Analytics] Bitcointalk.org (March 2021)

[mediaBuzz]

Last year thread is here.
                                                                                                  
           

Traffic and Engagement      
Monthly Visits: 4.5M 2.8M
Montly Unique Visitors: 3.4M 1.2M
Average Visit Duration: 00:03:51 00:05:48  
Pages per Visit: 3.30 4.9
Bounce Rate: 57.97% 53.1%

*data for the last year is shown in red    

Traffic Share by Country:

2020:

          10.5%                                    9.5%                                       6.1%                                          4.1%                                3.9%
      United States                                  Russia                                       Ukraine                                           Turkey                               Germany

2021:

           12.6%                                      6.6%                                      4.9%                                         4.3%                                 4.2%
      United States                                  Germany                                     Ukraine                                         Turkey                            United Kingdom


Next Countries in the List:
6. Indonesia 3.9%
7. Vietnam 3.5%
8. India 2.8%
9. Russia 2.5%

Traffic Source:

2020:
          


2021:
          


Top Referrals:
1. Ethermine.org                            39.6%
2. Coinmarketcap.com                     6.9%
3. Coingecko.com                            5.2%
4. Ethereum.miningpoolhub.com      3.6%
5. Miningclub.info                           3.1%

Top Outgoing Destinations:
1. Mega.nz                           20.9%
2. Github.com                       10.9%
3. docs.google.com               5.8%
4. YouTube                           4.5%
5. Telegram                          2.7%

Top Keywords:
1. bitcointalk               1.7%          1.21%    
2. phoenixminer          1.47%          0.4%  
3. phoenix miner         0.92%          0.3%  
4. bitcoin talk              0.6%           0.25%  
5. bitcoin 32 puzzle      0.4%          <0.1%  

Top Social Sources:
1. Reddit                  39.8%          
2. YouTube               39.1%        
3. Twitter                 8.8%        
4. Facebook              4.9%          
5. Stack Exchange     3.1%        
 
*data for the last year is shown in red  

So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest into crypto during the last 12 months despite overall number of crypto enthusiast all over the world almost doubled. And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers.

References: ahrefs, semrush, google trends, similarweb
I'll gladly add any other specific data if someone is interested.
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[suchmoon]

So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest into crypto during the last 12 months

Math?

2.8m * 9.5% = 266k
4.5m * 2.5% = 113k

Just a bit over half, 58% or so, not 95%.

And it might have something to do with this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235502.0

And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers.

I don't see how that follows from your data, nor is the traffic doubled: (4.5-2.8) / 2.8 = 61%

[mediaBuzz]

Math?

The numbers are pretty much rounded in order to give an overall pattern.

And the traffic source chart is clearly showing that the number of Bitcointalk residents has not change compared to the last year, the double in the overall traffic are all new comers.

I don't see how that follows from your data, nor is the traffic doubled: (4.5-2.8) / 2.8 = 61%

The same argument applies here. Thanks.


And I'm glad that I made you use your brain my doing simple calculations

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[DdmrDdmr]

I’d really like to see this sort of information originated from the source itself (Bitcointalk).

As last year, contrasting the overall data against https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats, and assuming the same hypothesis I made on last year’s thread, I still believe the number of monthly unique visitors (IPs), 3,4M!, is way over the real figure.

Looking over the methodology described by sites like similarweb, I find it rather opaque, to the point that one can’t asses the real method used behind the scenes, nor infer how much estimate is used.

A voice from above could give us an idea if these stats are close to being real or not …

[posi]

I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site, the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information.

United States 15.8%
India 10.5%
Japan 8.5%

[Rikafip]

I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site, the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information.

He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers. By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa

All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers.

[posi]

I don't know how you get or do the brief analytics of this forum but the data provided by you seems to be lying. According to the estimation of all visitors to this forum in the past 30 days provided by Alexa site, the US has the highest number of visitors with 15.8% below are the information.

He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers.

Yeah he the reference but he never provided the link to analytics so people can look into it

By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa

This is the first time i hear similar web to be more accurate than Alexa. What I know is that Alexa is more reputable than all others traffic and analytics site but there some feature similar web have that can't be see on Alexa and it could be because I use It for free.

All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers.

I agreed.

[logfiles]

When it comes to traffic share by Country, I don't think there is any much accuracy in it. I believe most members here especially the active ones use VPNS and guess what?  

Most cheap or free VPNs have servers mostly from the US, Germany, France, UK (In other words the US and Europe) very few have free servers from Asia, Latin America  and Africa.

So I would imagine most users from Asia or Latin America where the population is also very huge are being misrepresented because the use VPNs.

[savetheFORUM]

So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest ....

Maybe the VPNs now provide lesser Russian IPs while giving out more German IPs. Oh wait, I just got a Germany IP too from my VPN

[Little Mouse]

Top Outgoing Destinations:
1. Mega.nz                           20.9%
2. Github.com                       10.9%
3. docs.google.com               5.8%
4. YouTube                           4.5%
5. Telegram                          2.7%

If anyone is to use this data, make sure you understand the reason behind this. First two outgoing is okay and logical but last threes are the result of bounty. All the bounty hunters are required to visit the docs url, youtube and telegram from the bounty thread in most of the bounties. Information is correct based on stats but totally wrong if we calculate the logic.

[SFR10]

I'll gladly add any other specific data if someone is interested.

Not sure if any of your sources offer analytics based on devices that are being used as well as their operating systems.
^{- It'd be great to also see one for resolutions [it's probably not going to make sense for most but it might come in handy for those of us that design signature].}

[mediaBuzz]

If anyone is to use this data, make sure you understand the reason behind this. First two outgoing is okay and logical but last threes are the result of bounty. All the bounty hunters are required to visit the docs url, youtube and telegram from the bounty thread in most of the bounties. Information is correct based on stats but totally wrong if we calculate the logic.

So, from bounty campaigns or by personal interest - they are going out of the forum to another destination. This makes them an outgoing destination pal. Please do not write what comes to your mind first just in order to be in the same boat with others hoping to get a merit for supporting their negative comment.

When it comes to traffic share by Country, I don't think there is any much accuracy in it. I believe most members here especially the active ones use VPNS and guess what?  

Most cheap or free VPNs have servers mostly from the US, Germany, France, UK (In other words the US and Europe) very few have free servers from Asia, Latin America  and Africa.

So I would imagine most users from Asia or Latin America where the population is also very huge are being misrepresented because the use VPNs.

This might make sense. I personally do not use VPN for bttalk.

He clearly mentioned from where he got the numbers. By the way, why do you think that Alexa is any more accurate and better than than the sources he used as I often heard (from people that know more about subject than me) that similar web is more accurate than Alexa

All those method are wrong to some degree and as @DdmrDdmr said only theymos knows the real numbers.

They might be wrong partly and I believe there is no possibility that these inaccuracies can mislead someone. These numbers are accurate enough in order to obtain a general understanding of overall pattern. And this was my purpose from this thread.

[tranthidung]

I am not sure how those sites trace the forum, analyse data and publish such results. From the official page for Forum's Ad stats. Here is what I get.

In median, in 2020, the daily impression counts is around 254705. So a rough number for 30 days would be 7641150 ~ 7.64 million impression counts for 30 days. The real number for each month can be higher or lower than 7.64 that is estimated from daily median. This figure is significantly higher than 4.5 M or 2.8 M.

• Forum stats observations
• https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

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     | mimpressions   impress_med   mliuser_impressions   liimpress_med   muniqueip   uniqueip_med   muniqueliusers   uniqueli_med         m |
     |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. |       215169      254704.9              27793.76        40202.75     9113.68       8013.287          1241.04       1044.073    2020m1 |
  2. |     203249.8      254704.9              20445.78        40202.75     8369.57       8013.287          1194.39       1044.073    2020m2 |
  3. |     215599.3      254704.9              28979.17        40202.75     7842.22       8013.287          1014.31       1044.073    2020m3 |
  4. |       277468      254704.9              41172.72        40202.75    8184.355       8013.287         1073.835       1044.073    2020m4 |
  5. |     261943.6      254704.9              23898.55        40202.75     9275.43       8013.287          1079.15       1044.073    2020m5 |
  6. |     241368.8      254704.9              39232.79        40202.75     6781.04       8013.287           983.79       1044.073    2020m6 |
  7. |     247466.2      254704.9              45245.46        40202.75     7149.36       8013.287           1002.2       1044.073    2020m7 |
  8. |     193093.7      254704.9              25026.92        40202.75     7440.12       8013.287         1000.115       1044.073    2020m8 |
  9. |     279796.4      254704.9              58056.42        40202.75     6956.35       8013.287            935.1       1044.073    2020m9 |
 10. |     272670.8      254704.9               60252.9        40202.75     7001.69       8013.287           961.17       1044.073   2020m10 |
 11. |     289374.8      254704.9              69068.36        40202.75     8821.41       8013.287          1158.85       1044.073   2020m11 |
 12. |     301915.1      254704.9              60162.96        40202.75    9775.035       8013.287          1370.96       1044.073   2020m12 |
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[Pmalek]

So, if the data is not lying, almost 95% of visitors from Russia lost their interest ....

Maybe the VPNs now provide lesser Russian IPs while giving out more German IPs. Oh wait, I just got a Germany IP too from my VPN

Russians didn't lose interest in Bitcointalk. If you take a look at the monthly reports posted by DdmrDdmr, you would see that the Russian local forum is usually on the first or second place when it comes to activity. I think the Turkish local had greater numbers in the last month or two.

That means that Russians are here and they are very active. But Bitcointalk has been banned in certain Russian areas (if not all), so they have to use VPNs and IP addresses from other countries to access the forum. This lowers the percentage applied to Russian visitors in the stats and increases it for all other countries whose IPs are being used by Russian visitors.