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It seems India will lead 3rd wave. More then 345k infected only yesterday. Over 2 million infected in last 2 weeks. And the the peak is only expecting to happen. Next two months will be definitely extremely bad for India.
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April 24, 2021, 06:51:11 PM |
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Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? We've seen similar examples from Israel and United Kingdom that vaccination has been effective so far. That's our only way out of this pandemic. Vaccines have been effective in diminishing many infectious diseases in the past and it's our only weapon to fight Covid-19.
Unfortunately, most European countries are way behind in their vaccination program, I hope that this situation changes throughout the summer.
We have a different story about the implementation of vaccine in my country.The society didnt believe on the government with the vaccine. So, they rejected to be vaccinated and they told to others that this is just conspiracy. Covid is Hoax. How bad the condition in my country, right? That's the scenario in your country. In my country similar is the situation and people aren't ready to believe in the vaccine, because many people died after the vaccination. There is fear about the vaccine, but to withstand the ongoing worse situation people are crowding to get vaccinated. In reality there is much shortage of vaccine and the government isn't in a state to agree it and take necessary steps. Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking? Although, it's a quite common phenomenon here too, you see these conspiracy theorists all over Facebook and social media, posing as specialists or Mr. Know-it-all. A recent study had shown that Greece is the second country after Nigeria to believe in conspiracy theories about Covid-19. I'm not sure about the sample they used, but it's quite sad nonetheless. Study's source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/26/survey-uncovers-widespread-belief-dangerous-covid-conspiracy-theories
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April 24, 2021, 08:11:56 PM |
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Currently, disease outbreaks are strong in Asian countries, notably India and Cambodia. These countries are on the brink of collapse when there are thousands of new diseases every day. With the current situation of epidemics, the world has partly pushed back the epidemic, but many countries are still fighting against the epidemic. This is a virus that can spread extremely quickly and its consequences are very heavy. The epidemic is declining, as public awareness increases with government diseases in preventing epidemics and the multiplicity of vaccines. I think in a few years the epidemic will be completely extinguished, but the risk of it coming back remains.
Surely after a few years this Covid issue will end but the cause of this will always be remembered by our generation. The impact on the market and the amount of individual that got affected by this is too much to not be forgotten. Asian countries have covid issue bad and I lived in Philippines and how the government assess the situation isn't optimal unlike other countries. They corrupted all the funds that should be allocated for the Covid funds. They rather let the private companies to shoulder all the cost for the vaccination of the each individual and citizen of the Philippines.
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April 24, 2021, 11:46:06 PM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, the number of infected people continues to increase and new mutations appear. Our country is currently broken and we have a horrible president and a population that does not seem to know that we are in the middle of a pandemic, in short, the future will be cruel.
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That's the scenario in your country. In my country similar is the situation and people aren't ready to believe in the vaccine, because many people died after the vaccination. There is fear about the vaccine, but to withstand the ongoing worse situation people are crowding to get vaccinated. In reality there is much shortage of vaccine and the government isn't in a state to agree it and take necessary steps.
Unfortunately, accidents are unavoidable when it comes to such a large scale of vaccination, because the vaccine may have contraindications that the vaccinated may not know about when the vaccinated person's readiness for vaccination is checked on the basis of his words. No one will arrange detailed medical examinations for the vaccinated person, because many more people die from the epidemic itself and the medical aid agencies do not always cope with so many patients. Also, let's not forget the banal information wars between the medical companies themselves and the states that stand behind them, for the market. And bad news, as you know, very often sells better than good news, sowing doubts in the souls of the population.
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April 25, 2021, 03:41:36 AM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, the number of infected people continues to increase and new mutations appear. Our country is currently broken and we have a horrible president and a population that does not seem to know that we are in the middle of a pandemic, in short, the future will be cruel.
I am not much surprised about the situation in Brazil, because the president Jair Bolsonaro handled the crisis in a very incompetent way. A part of the blame should fall on the citizens of Brazil, because they elected someone who openly supported the destruction of the Amazon rainforest and extermination of indigenous ethnic groups. They thought that only the indigenous tribes would suffer if Bolsonaro is elected as the president. They were wrong. Brazilians irrespective of the ethnicity are suffering now.
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April 25, 2021, 01:01:02 PM |
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That's the scenario in your country. In my country similar is the situation and people aren't ready to believe in the vaccine, because many people died after the vaccination.
That's so bad, may I know what is the brand of the vaccine which is spreaded by your Government? Because, last week my mother is forced by the government to be vaccinated. In my country, the vaccine that is spreaded is Sinovac. When I read what you wrote, that makes me feel worry to my mom. I really hope that everything gonna be okay soon. Although, we have found the vaccine but Covid-19 still infected many people in every country. This is really bad.
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April 25, 2021, 01:31:24 PM |
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That's so bad, may I know what is the brand of the vaccine which is spreaded by your Government? Because, last week my mother is forced by the government to be vaccinated. In my country, the vaccine that is spreaded is Sinovac. When I read what you wrote, that makes me feel worry to my mom. I really hope that everything gonna be okay soon. Although, we have found the vaccine but Covid-19 still infected many people in every country. This is really bad. Sinovac is really useless. There are rumors that they manipulated the clinical trials, in order to achieve the minimum (50%) efficacy needed for approval (Sinovac claims to have an efficacy of 50.4%). Countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Chile have primarily used Sinovac vaccine to inoculate their populations. But in none of these countries, a noticeable reduction in the number of new infections is being noticed (despite vaccinating close to half of the population in each case).
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April 25, 2021, 01:39:44 PM |
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That's so bad, may I know what is the brand of the vaccine which is spreaded by your Government? Because, last week my mother is forced by the government to be vaccinated. In my country, the vaccine that is spreaded is Sinovac. When I read what you wrote, that makes me feel worry to my mom. I really hope that everything gonna be okay soon. Although, we have found the vaccine but Covid-19 still infected many people in every country. This is really bad. Sinovac is really useless. There are rumors that they manipulated the clinical trials, in order to achieve the minimum (50%) efficacy needed for approval (Sinovac claims to have an efficacy of 50.4%). Countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Chile have primarily used Sinovac vaccine to inoculate their populations. But in none of these countries, a noticeable reduction in the number of new infections is being noticed (despite vaccinating close to half of the population in each case). That's a quite low efficacy, but a bold claim to make too, is there any valid source for this? Isn't Sinovac a Chinese vaccine? I think Pfizer and Sputnik seem like the safest and best options out there.
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April 25, 2021, 02:24:34 PM |
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It seems India will lead 3rd wave. More then 345k infected only yesterday. Over 2 million infected in last 2 weeks. And the the peak is only expecting to happen. Next two months will be definitely extremely bad for India.
That's only what the official reports are saying. Unofficially I would say, atleast it's 10 lakh cases per day (even excluding those who aren't testing). In my city only, it's estimated that 4 cases happening every hour. Myself got infected 3 days ago (actually tested positive, probably got infected way earlier). It's really saddening to see such a second wave and there's also that oxygen unavailable problems everywhere. Hopefully everything restores for good. This is going to be such a bad year again.
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April 25, 2021, 03:27:21 PM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, ...
12% received one dose in Brazil. That is way to low to have any impact. Many more already had covid. So immunity have bigger impact. Without vaccines and immunity situation would be much worse. I know things are bad right now, but at least there is hope. I dont see Brazil can be hit with 4th wave. So this is last one. It just need to be fought and win the battle.
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April 25, 2021, 08:06:45 PM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, ...
12% received one dose in Brazil. That is way to low to have any impact. Many more already had covid. So immunity have bigger impact. Without vaccines and immunity situation would be much worse. I know things are bad right now, but at least there is hope. I dont see Brazil can be hit with 4th wave. So this is last one. It just need to be fought and win the battle. That's way too low to have any effect at all, it's not any better here either. A decent percentage would be at approximately 50% in order to start showing the first positive effects. Countries like the United Kingdom and Israel are a true example of how the vaccination program should be running.
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April 25, 2021, 09:10:36 PM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, ...
12% received one dose in Brazil. That is way to low to have any impact. Many more already had covid. So immunity have bigger impact. Without vaccines and immunity situation would be much worse. I know things are bad right now, but at least there is hope. I dont see Brazil can be hit with 4th wave. So this is last one. It just need to be fought and win the battle. Not only do I see Brazil as a potential for a new wave, but I also know that, if it comes, the country will collapse. In several cities in the country there is a lack of basic things like oxygen and medicines for intubation (sedatives, etc.), in some cities several people died from lack of oxygen. https://g1.globo.com/am/amazonas/noticia/2021/01/25/documentos-mostram-que-mais-de-30-morreram-nos-dois-dias-de-colapso-por-falta-de-oxigenio-em-manaus.ghtml
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April 25, 2021, 09:13:34 PM |
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Sinovac is really useless. There are rumors that they manipulated the clinical trials, in order to achieve the minimum (50%) efficacy needed for approval (Sinovac claims to have an efficacy of 50.4%). Countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Chile have primarily used Sinovac vaccine to inoculate their populations. But in none of these countries, a noticeable reduction in the number of new infections is being noticed (despite vaccinating close to half of the population in each case).
We can't really say "useless" can we? I mean even if we are talking about 5% better results, that is still 5% better results. Do not get me wrong, I do not believe anything that comes out of China and I believe it is pure propaganda by the CCP and they are acting like they are the first ones to show a true vaccine so that they could get a bit of love after all the hatred after the virus spread started from them, and even as a person who do not like CCP I have to be honest and say that unless it is proven that they did it purposefully, there was nothing they can do, these type of things start anywhere, and unless it is totally useless and just water in that vaccine (Doubtful, clinical trials were made on it all around the world) it is obvious that we can't just call it useless. Once again, other vaccines look obviously much much better, specially biontech which looks incredibly better, but this doesn't make sinovac useless, it just makes it less helpful but still a bit of helpful.
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April 25, 2021, 09:29:13 PM |
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Sinovac is really useless. There are rumors that they manipulated the clinical trials, in order to achieve the minimum (50%) efficacy needed for approval (Sinovac claims to have an efficacy of 50.4%). Countries such as Hungary, Serbia and Chile have primarily used Sinovac vaccine to inoculate their populations. But in none of these countries, a noticeable reduction in the number of new infections is being noticed (despite vaccinating close to half of the population in each case).
Once again, other vaccines look obviously much much better, specially biontech which looks incredibly better, but this doesn't make sinovac useless, it just makes it less helpful but still a bit of helpful. Yes, I wouldn't say it's useless either, but if there was a better option that could be used, why not use it? Besides that a few weeks ago I thought I read an article that Sinovac was indeed "less" effective than the others, so the Chinese themselves ordered several million doses of other vaccines for their vaccinations, does this make sense?
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April 26, 2021, 03:53:45 AM |
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I live in Brazil and even after the vaccine reaches hospitals, ...
12% received one dose in Brazil. That is way to low to have any impact. Many more already had covid. So immunity have bigger impact. Without vaccines and immunity situation would be much worse. I know things are bad right now, but at least there is hope. I dont see Brazil can be hit with 4th wave. So this is last one. It just need to be fought and win the battle. That's way too low to have any effect at all, it's not any better here either. A decent percentage would be at approximately 50% in order to start showing the first positive effects. Countries like the United Kingdom and Israel are a true example of how the vaccination program should be running. Only 2%-3% got completely vaccinated in Brazil and it will have almost zero impact. Another 10% or so got one dose of the vaccine. But in most cases this is the Sinovac vaccine and as users have already pointed out, this is a less efficient vaccine and the impact won't be visible before the second dose. So there is no guarantee that Brazil can't be hit with a 4th wave, especially when multiple mutant strains are getting reported from that country.
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That's a quite low efficacy, but a bold claim to make too, is there any valid source for this? Isn't Sinovac a Chinese vaccine? I think Pfizer and Sputnik seem like the safest and best options out there.
I also think that Pfizer and Sputnik is the safest and best to use for covid vaccination. I really don't have trust for all covid vaccines from China. Also our country already experienced the bad effect of the Dengvaxia vaccine from China before but it was not for Covid but also killed a lot of children's lives. Scary to take and vaccinate covid vaccine from China.
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I also think that Pfizer and Sputnik is the safest and best to use for covid vaccination. I really don't have trust for all covid vaccines from China. Also our country already experienced the bad effect of the Dengvaxia vaccine from China before but it was not for Covid but also killed a lot of children's lives. Scary to take and vaccinate covid vaccine from China.
Pfizer has refused to provide vaccines to third world countries. They have reserved 99% of their vaccines to developed nations such as the United States and Canada. Pfizer has provided limited doses of the vaccine to some of the third world nations, but in return they are asking for draconian guarantees. And as far as Sputnik V is concerned, they are really struggling to cope up with the demand. The good news is that their facilities in Argentina and Serbia has started producing the vaccines and by next month tens of millions of doses will be available for export.
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It was really sad to read the news about the epidemic. About these days, I have friends who are studying in India, and they say that there is like real hell, lots of people are dying. My friend shared that the situation in India is much worse than reported in the media, my friend said that the sense of prevention here is very poor when people are not wearing masks and crowded, indeed, when I looked at their crematoriums, my fear was still not over. There are many people saying that vaccines are made from cows' fetuses, and their religion does not allow them to vaccinate, I don't know if that is true, I have also heard of a new variant in India there is a very fast transmission rate and even if their prime minister has vaccinated twice but is still infected, pray that India will overcome this epidemic.
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It was really sad to read the news about the epidemic. About these days, I have friends who are studying in India, and they say that there is like real hell, lots of people are dying. My friend shared that the situation in India is much worse than reported in the media, my friend said that the sense of prevention here is very poor when people are not wearing masks and crowded, indeed, when I looked at their crematoriums, my fear was still not over. There are many people saying that vaccines are made from cows' fetuses, and their religion does not allow them to vaccinate, I don't know if that is true, I have also heard of a new variant in India there is a very fast transmission rate and even if their prime minister has vaccinated twice but is still infected, pray that India will overcome this epidemic.
From what I heard from my relatives in India, a lot of fake propaganda is being spread. There are Whatsapp audio messages going around, which claims that people who get admitted to the hospitals get their organs stolen and they will never come home alive. Actually these sort of malicious messages have caused more deaths in India when compared to the infection itself. A lot of people believe in these rumors and they refuse to go to the hospitals. And in many cases they end up dead due to low Oxygen saturation. And the data released by the government suggests that more than 94% of the cases among the 60 plus age group are reported from the unvaccinated group.
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