Ibrahimovic under FIFA and UEFA investigation

[datguyian]

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So far it does not seem as if there was any wrongdoing except of being a partial owner of the company, many people may think this is not a big deal but it is, the whole point of a sport competition is to see two competitors doing everything they can in order to win, but if one side has an incentive to not do so then there are going to be suspicions about their performance even if they never intended to fix a single game and this is what we are seeing in the case of Ibrahimovic.

You are right, although this is a bit sad ain't it? That if you are an athlete you can't have any stake in business that will directly affect your performance in the game but how come betting sites can sponsor the players? Yes they don't have a stake directly but if they want to, they caan probably throw the game.

The issue is if the rules or statues forbid any ownership betting companies while playing in a professional soccer league, well then there is not much to argue about. Ibrahimovic probably knew what he was doing and that he was breaking rules.

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[mediaBuzz]

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there is no personal matter but it's just a business~

Kill someone and say it was just a business. I believe he clearly knew what consequences this move was gonna lead to, he is not a college team player, he should have a personal lawyer who is in charge of such situations.

[Becky666]

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there is no personal matter but it's just a business~

Kill someone and say it was just a business. I believe he clearly knew what consequences this move was gonna lead to, he is not a college team player, he should have a personal lawyer who is in charge of such situations.

I can't really see him with a personal lawyer making any positive move based on these allegations leveled against him by these two bodies. Although the case is still under-investigation, hopefully the penalty be such that could be manage to avoid ruining his career and reputation. Who knows, maybe there were something like fixed match with this particular sport platform, it's better to wait for the outcome of this investigation before involve a lawyer IMO.

[mediaBuzz]

Anyways looks like the issue was solved without public explanations. Zlatan's agent Mino Raiola confirmed that he is ready to extend his career until June next year in Milan and they are likely to sign the contract this month. He would not be "ready" if he felt any serious issues concerning these shares of Bethard.

[Silberman]

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So far it does not seem as if there was any wrongdoing except of being a partial owner of the company, many people may think this is not a big deal but it is, the whole point of a sport competition is to see two competitors doing everything they can in order to win, but if one side has an incentive to not do so then there are going to be suspicions about their performance even if they never intended to fix a single game and this is what we are seeing in the case of Ibrahimovic.

You are right, although this is a bit sad ain't it? That if you are an athlete you can't have any stake in business that will directly affect your performance in the game but how come betting sites can sponsor the players? Yes they don't have a stake directly but if they want to, they caan probably throw the game.

The issue is if the rules or statues forbid any ownership betting companies while playing in a professional soccer league, well then there is not much to argue about. Ibrahimovic probably knew what he was doing and that he was breaking rules.

That is the issue, even if it did not made sense the rules are the rules and if you want to participate in a sport you follow those rules as every single one of your peers is doing so, however in this case the rules that do not allow a soccer player to be the owner or a partial owner of a casino makes complete sense because there is a conflict of interests between his goals as a soccer player and his goals as the partial owner of a casino and situations like that must always be avoided.

[germsite]

the company he co owns also co owns another company and whats the problem with that ? there is no personal matter but its just a business what they are doing but if this is not allowed he should have done a research at first and not insist this partnership because the fine are too heavy and he is going to affect him much and the people that are under him but he can choose to pay because for sure he have lots of cash than to wait for a long time to be able to play again because he can recover those money working within these period

It is like saying why can't I cross a red traffic light if nobody wants to cross the street. You have to follow the rules especially when you are aware of them and seriously Ibrahimovic was aware of them. If you go 70 mph where you are asked to go 50 mph but you go faster only because nobody else is on the street, that's not how it works.

[tyz]

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there is no personal matter but it's just a business~

Kill someone and say it was just a business. I believe he clearly knew what consequences this move was gonna lead to, he is not a college team player, he should have a personal lawyer who is in charge of such situations.

Pretty inappropriate comparison, don't you think? I don't think it was that clear to him though he should have sought professional counseling help. I mean almost every football club is sponsored by a betting company, so in principle there is the same conflict of interest as with an individual player.

[Rengga Jati]

https://www.football-italia.net/169135/ibrahimovic-risks-sanction-involvement-betting-agency

is he really one o the owner or an investor of that gambling site? Or only as an icon of that site?
Well, probably there must be a clear clarification from the management and also the gambling site owner. I am sure enough that AB will not want this to happen and there probably any ways to avoid if any. But sometimes, this kind of law will really be hard to fight moreover it is about related to the regulation. Is this really the end of his career?
Let's see. We cannot take any further speculation before the clear conference press done by the two parties.

[carlfebz2]

https://www.football-italia.net/169135/ibrahimovic-risks-sanction-involvement-betting-agency

is he really one o the owner or an investor of that gambling site? Or only as an icon of that site?
Well, probably there must be a clear clarification from the management and also the gambling site owner. I am sure enough that AB will not want this to happen and there probably any ways to avoid if any. But sometimes, this kind of law will really be hard to fight moreover it is about related to the regulation. Is this really the end of his career?
Let's see. We cannot take any further speculation before the clear conference press done by the two parties.

It might not be recent but this way published 7 days ago: https://malaysia.news.yahoo.com/uefa-probe-ibrahimovics-alleged-betting-170927440.html

According to this: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/6852075/zlatan-ibrahimovic-betting-malta-three-year-ban/

"The report adds that Zlatan's company is the fourth largest shareholder in Bethard and it made a profit after tax of £25.79m in 2019.

He was announced as a co-owner and ambassador for the brand three years ago."

So its really been proved out about his investment.Now we are just waiting for the said sanction or decision about disciplinary thing.

[acquafredda]

Art. 26 of the FIFA Code of Ethics prohibits not only participation, direct or indirect, in the betting industry, but also having interests, direct or indirect, with companies operating in the industry. If it is established through the investigation that Ibrahimovic had an indirect shareholding in Bethard Group Limited, he would risk a penalty of at least 100,000 Swiss francs (just under € 91,000) up to a disqualification from professional activity for a maximum of 3 years by FIFA.
Finally, at the national level, Ibrahimovic cannot be charged by the FIGC (Italian football league) as art. 24 of the Sports Justice Code only concerns the activity of placing the bet (and not the corporate participation).

[Silberman]

https://www.football-italia.net/169135/ibrahimovic-risks-sanction-involvement-betting-agency

is he really one o the owner or an investor of that gambling site? Or only as an icon of that site?
Well, probably there must be a clear clarification from the management and also the gambling site owner. I am sure enough that AB will not want this to happen and there probably any ways to avoid if any. But sometimes, this kind of law will really be hard to fight moreover it is about related to the regulation. Is this really the end of his career?
Let's see. We cannot take any further speculation before the clear conference press done by the two parties.

Being an investor or a partial owner of the casino is the same thing, we must understand that this is completely different from having a deal to sponsor the casino and this is because in that kind of deal your only responsibility is to promote the casino so people play there, but when you are an actual owner of the casino you care about the profit the casino is producing and when you are a player in any sport this means that you have a conflict of interests and that is never a good position to be in.

[Sithara007]

Art. 26 of the FIFA Code of Ethics prohibits not only participation, direct or indirect, in the betting industry, but also having interests, direct or indirect, with companies operating in the industry. If it is established through the investigation that Ibrahimovic had an indirect shareholding in Bethard Group Limited, he would risk a penalty of at least 100,000 Swiss francs (just under € 91,000) up to a disqualification from professional activity for a maximum of 3 years by FIFA.
Finally, at the national level, Ibrahimovic cannot be charged by the FIGC (Italian football league) as art. 24 of the Sports Justice Code only concerns the activity of placing the bet (and not the corporate participation).

He was the brand ambassador for Bethard, so everything was clear from the beginning. My only question is that why the FIFA and UEFA investigating him for something that was done in 2018? They need 3 years to conduct their preliminary investigation? In that case they may take another 3-4 years to decide on the quantum of punishment. IMO, a deal should be reached between both the parties to avoid further embarrassment. If Zlatan had breached the rules, then let him pay a financial penalty and the carry on with his career.

[Silberman]

Art. 26 of the FIFA Code of Ethics prohibits not only participation, direct or indirect, in the betting industry, but also having interests, direct or indirect, with companies operating in the industry. If it is established through the investigation that Ibrahimovic had an indirect shareholding in Bethard Group Limited, he would risk a penalty of at least 100,000 Swiss francs (just under € 91,000) up to a disqualification from professional activity for a maximum of 3 years by FIFA.
Finally, at the national level, Ibrahimovic cannot be charged by the FIGC (Italian football league) as art. 24 of the Sports Justice Code only concerns the activity of placing the bet (and not the corporate participation).

He was the brand ambassador for Bethard, so everything was clear from the beginning. My only question is that why the FIFA and UEFA investigating him for something that was done in 2018? They need 3 years to conduct their preliminary investigation? In that case they may take another 3-4 years to decide on the quantum of punishment. IMO, a deal should be reached between both the parties to avoid further embarrassment. If Zlatan had breached the rules, then let him pay a financial penalty and the carry on with his career.

Those giants bodies are incredibly slow when it comes to do anything as everything is always immersed by politics so I am not surprised that it has took so long for them to bring this case against him, which means that if they take any longer on trying to process this case Ibrahimovic could just retire at whatever time he wished and be relatively unaffected in the case he was found guilty, but having an idea of his personality I doubt he is going to accept this and most likely a settlement is on the cards.

[Sithara007]

Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo will come face to face today, when Juventus takes on AC Milan in a Serie A match. Both the teams are having 69 points as of now, and the winner in all probability will advance to the UEFA Champions League. Ibrahimovic seems to be unaffected by the controversy related to Bethard. He has already signed for another year of contract extension with AC Milan, which proves that he doesn't care about the ongoing investigation.

[mindrust]

Pretty inappropriate comparison, don't you think? I don't think it was that clear to him though he should have sought professional counseling help. I mean almost every football club is sponsored by a betting company, so in principle there is the same conflict of interest as with an individual player.

He can own whatever betting company he likes as long as he is not a player. However, he is still a player, is he not?

However I agree that bet companies sponsoring the clubs isn't the most sensible thing neither. If there is no problem with taking their money for the clubs, why would it be a problem for the player? If a player can rig a game, so can a club.

[ropyu1978]

Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo will come face to face today, when Juventus takes on AC Milan in a Serie A match. Both the teams are having 69 points as of now, and the winner in all probability will advance to the UEFA Champions League. Ibrahimovic seems to be unaffected by the controversy related to Bethard. He has already signed for another year of contract extension with AC Milan, which proves that he doesn't care about the ongoing investigation.

I totally agree with your opinion, tonight Ibrahim Movic will forget his problem with Betrand, tonight Ibrahim only focuses his mind on the match ... the problem with FIFA is his business, there is a lawyer who will fix the problem ... he only focuses on playing football alone ..

[mediaBuzz]

Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo will come face to face today, when Juventus takes on AC Milan in a Serie A match. Both the teams are having 69 points as of now, and the winner in all probability will advance to the UEFA Champions League. Ibrahimovic seems to be unaffected by the controversy related to Bethard. He has already signed for another year of contract extension with AC Milan, which proves that he doesn't care about the ongoing investigation.

I totally agree with your opinion, tonight Ibrahim Movic will forget his problem with Betrand, tonight Ibrahim only focuses his mind on the match ... the problem with FIFA is his business, there is a lawyer who will fix the problem ... he only focuses on playing football alone ..

He did not give a fu** from the start. He reacted like it was some kind of a joke from the start. His agent who is as long as I remember works for other few popular players answered to a reporters questions about the bethard issue by saying he is ready for the next season and not going to retire😂

[Joca97]

Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo will come face to face today, when Juventus takes on AC Milan in a Serie A match. Both the teams are having 69 points as of now, and the winner in all probability will advance to the UEFA Champions League. Ibrahimovic seems to be unaffected by the controversy related to Bethard. He has already signed for another year of contract extension with AC Milan, which proves that he doesn't care about the ongoing investigation.

I totally agree with your opinion, tonight Ibrahim Movic will forget his problem with Betrand, tonight Ibrahim only focuses his mind on the match ... the problem with FIFA is his business, there is a lawyer who will fix the problem ... he only focuses on playing football alone ..

He did not give a fu** from the start. He reacted like it was some kind of a joke from the start. His agent who is as long as I remember works for other few popular players answered to a reporters questions about the bethard issue by saying he is ready for the next season and not going to retire😂

He signed another 1 year with AC Milan and that means he will play next season again and wont be forced to retire.I still dont understand the rules about owning a share of a company its not like he is rigging games or betting on them himself.

[sana54210]

Pretty inappropriate comparison, don't you think? I don't think it was that clear to him though he should have sought professional counseling help. I mean almost every football club is sponsored by a betting company, so in principle there is the same conflict of interest as with an individual player.

He can own whatever betting company he likes as long as he is not a player. However, he is still a player, is he not?

However I agree that bet companies sponsoring the clubs isn't the most sensible thing neither. If there is no problem with taking their money for the clubs, why would it be a problem for the player? If a player can rig a game, so can a club.

He is an old player, he played very well this year when he got the chance, he got injured quite frequently I have to say and Milan looked great when he played, however no matter how great he is, he is still an old player, dude is almost 40 years old.

I do not think that he would have any advantage owning a casino neither, let's assume that he bets against himself, well he can do that without owning a casino, let's assume that people on his website wagered on one side too much, let's say maybe he has to lose in order for him to win a lot of money, he could miss shots, but there are 10 other people, but let's assume he has to win, well he wants to win every game anyway. So I do not see "too much" problem here, but even if it is just too much, if he is making a lot of profit from this, he could simply retire, because he is already at that age anyway.

[mindrust]

Pretty inappropriate comparison, don't you think? I don't think it was that clear to him though he should have sought professional counseling help. I mean almost every football club is sponsored by a betting company, so in principle there is the same conflict of interest as with an individual player.

He can own whatever betting company he likes as long as he is not a player. However, he is still a player, is he not?

However I agree that bet companies sponsoring the clubs isn't the most sensible thing neither. If there is no problem with taking their money for the clubs, why would it be a problem for the player? If a player can rig a game, so can a club.

He is an old player, he played very well this year when he got the chance, he got injured quite frequently I have to say and Milan looked great when he played, however no matter how great he is, he is still an old player, dude is almost 40 years old.

I do not think that he would have any advantage owning a casino neither, let's assume that he bets against himself, well he can do that without owning a casino, let's assume that people on his website wagered on one side too much, let's say maybe he has to lose in order for him to win a lot of money, he could miss shots, but there are 10 other people, but let's assume he has to win, well he wants to win every game anyway. So I do not see "too much" problem here, but even if it is just too much, if he is making a lot of profit from this, he could simply retire, because he is already at that age anyway.

Rules are rules. You may not see a problem. Zlatan might be an honest player with or without being an investor of a casino. It doesn't matter. The rules say you cannot take money from the casinos as long as you are an active player.

The rules let the clubs make sponsorship deals and that sucks too but somehow they don't care.

If you think they need to make an exception for Zlatan, then they need to do it for everybody.