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April 15, 2021, 07:09:54 PM
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What happened:  Plagiarism whitepaper
A lot of copied material, without providing links where it was taken from.

Flag type 1 (support/oppose): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2703


ANN Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330604.0
Archive link: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5678/56782748.html
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3242422
Website link: https://www.antimonycoin.com/
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210407203227/https://www.antimonycoin.com/
Whitepaper : https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/antimony-whitepaper.pdf
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210411091158/https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/antimony-whitepaper.pdf

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Domain Name: ANTIMONYCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2599446462_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ovh.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ovh.com
Updated Date: 2021-03-21T09:01:00Z
Creation Date: 2021-03-21T08:57:13Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-03-21T08:57:13Z


Plagiarism whitepaper from :




https://steemit.com/crypto/@aisyah-rahayu/yusra-global-your-unique-system-of-real-assets




https://tajikistannewsgazette.com/bitcoin-soars-to-record-high-of-62000/





https://cryptobazar.io/media/pdf/CryptoBazarFund_Eng_180221.pdf




https://cryptobazar.io/media/pdf/CryptoBazarFund_Eng_180221.pdf




https://static.coinpaprika.com/storage/cdn/whitepapers/1547.pdf











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April 16, 2021, 04:58:44 AM
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1month old domain name - check
Copy pasted whitepaper - check
Website design generic of previous ICO/IEO/STO/Initial Blah blah Bullshit offering? - check

Team members have some images. No proof of linkedin accounts though, those links are non existant. The rest of the social media links are also wrong there. I dont think this team exists at all. Images may have been stolen from other places.

They have taken part in advertising a project called "Havven" as per their Advertising page. Tried to access the website of that project but browser says suspicious website. Roll Eyes

As per some aggregator websites there are multiple results of Havven -

https://icodrops.com/synthetix/
https://icomarks.com/ico/havven

None of these seem to match the one on the website of antimony coin. (That name kind of makes the anti-money vibes) Grin

On their Blockchain page there is an upcoming project called "Hycon", search results indicate there has been a project called Hycoin that ended, but not the same one as the one posted in the antimony coin page. All these things are very suspicious. When a project launches, they usually appear in more than one search result. Huh

Flag supported from my end.

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April 16, 2021, 07:17:02 AM
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Reported to cryptoscamalert
https://cryptoscamalert.com/crypto_scam_report/1242
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April 17, 2021, 02:04:34 AM
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1month old domain name - check
Copy pasted whitepaper - check
Website design generic of previous ICO/IEO/STO/Initial Blah blah Bullshit offering? - check



Team members have some images. No proof of linkedin accounts though, those links are non existant. The rest of the social media links are also wrong there. I dont think this team exists at all. Images may have been stolen from other places.

They have taken part in advertising a project called "Havven" as per their Advertising page. Tried to access the website of that project but browser says suspicious website. Roll Eyes

As per some aggregator websites there are multiple results of Havven -

https://icodrops.com/synthetix/
https://icomarks.com/ico/havven

None of these seem to match the one on the website of antimony coin. (That name kind of makes the anti-money vibes) Grin

On their Blockchain page there is an upcoming project called "Hycon", search results indicate there has been a project called Hycoin that ended, but not the same one as the one posted in the antimony coin page. All these things are very suspicious. When a project launches, they usually appear in more than one search result. Huh

Flag supported from my end.

Thank you for your attention, the heaven project I have no idea what is it, as stated in the announcements I'm new in this world and what I started with this project is nothing new but the idea of using already what does exist in a better way, yes.
My LinkedIn and Facebook profile by the way can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mircea-rusu-3a30b3175/
https://www.facebook.com/silviu.rusu.9

You must be really seek to accuse somebody of something that never done, I invite everyone who wants to meet the team in London and discuss anything anytime 😉
Our whitepaper is more an article about crypto to make people understand (who doesn't know yet like 75% or more of global population) what mean, maybe when I created I misunderstood the purpose of the whitepaper, but most people around me doesn't know exactly what a crypto currency mean so I created for that audience from different sources.
Regarding the project behind this coin I can tell you that we want to develop an exchange website and a bank with real cards so people can manage to exchange better between real currency and virtual one, can be as well other projects that might come in top of this in future! I mean all the crypto today using different algorithms have same concept, not sure explaining the same thing in different way will make the difference between a genuine and a fake project, the scam will be proved in time, if it is or not, have a good one 🤗

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April 17, 2021, 02:18:10 AM
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1month old domain name - check
Copy pasted whitepaper - check
Website design generic of previous ICO/IEO/STO/Initial Blah blah Bullshit offering? - check

Team members have some images. No proof of linkedin accounts though, those links are non existant. The rest of the social media links are also wrong there. I dont think this team exists at all. Images may have been stolen from other places.

They have taken part in advertising a project called "Havven" as per their Advertising page. Tried to access the website of that project but browser says suspicious website. Roll Eyes

As per some aggregator websites there are multiple results of Havven -

https://icodrops.com/synthetix/
https://icomarks.com/ico/havven

None of these seem to match the one on the website of antimony coin. (That name kind of makes the anti-money vibes) Grin

On their Blockchain page there is an upcoming project called "Hycon", search results indicate there has been a project called Hycoin that ended, but not the same one as the one posted in the antimony coin page. All these things are very suspicious. When a project launches, they usually appear in more than one search result. Huh

Flag supported from my end.
by the way the website was created with a graphical theme from envato, cost 50$, wordpress is free, demo content also was available from there and some is still on the website until will get the inspiration to put our data, bla bla bla 🤣

The coin launches yesterday, I admit I hurry to make everyone know about the coin without first making everything perfect, that still doesn't mean is suspicious, 1 month old domain mean is a new project, how old usually a new project has to have a domain? 🤣

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April 17, 2021, 03:36:29 AM
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Nice catch, I haven't seen a lot of coins that are element based so Iam thinking that this is just the start of more coins that are derived from elements. I don't get how they are still operating the same way with this whitepaper, do they even put effort in it?

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April 17, 2021, 10:02:03 AM
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by the way the website was created with a graphical theme from envato, cost 50$, wordpress is free, demo content also was available from there and some is still on the website until will get the inspiration to put our data, bla bla bla 🤣

The coin launches yesterday, I admit I hurry to make everyone know about the coin without first making everything perfect, that still doesn't mean is suspicious, 1 month old domain mean is a new project, how old usually a new project has to have a domain? 🤣



Too many unnecessary words that sound like blah blah
But instead of neatly creating your own white paper and writing it yourself without stealing other people's texts, you start making justify yourself.
You are only right that always the one who is in a hurry, forgets the little things from which your reputation grows. You probably have some unique idea, but we didn't feel it. We see only plagiarism, without providing links. There is no real team to contact and draw conclusions about previous experiences.
Why did you come to the forum? So far, your announcement looks like one continuous scam project.





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April 17, 2021, 10:15:15 AM
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by the way the website was created with a graphical theme from envato, cost 50$, wordpress is free, demo content also was available from there and some is still on the website until will get the inspiration to put our data, bla bla bla 🤣

The coin launches yesterday, I admit I hurry to make everyone know about the coin without first making everything perfect, that still doesn't mean is suspicious, 1 month old domain mean is a new project, how old usually a new project has to have a domain? 🤣



Too many unnecessary words that sound like blah blah
But instead of neatly creating your own white paper and writing it yourself without stealing other people's texts, you start making justify yourself.
You are only right that always the one who is in a hurry, forgets the little things from which your reputation grows. You probably have some unique idea, but we didn't feel it. We see only plagiarism, without providing links. There is no real team to contact and draw conclusions about previous experiences.
Why did you come to the forum? So far, your announcement looks like one continuous scam project.

I am sorry if looks like a continuous scam project, I will take your advice and rewrite the whitepaper in the next weeks, I was more concentrated to the technical side of the project, learning on the go and so on, all the team members are mainly on Facebook with account made maybe 10 years ago, I heard about this forum some days ago when I tried to apply to get listed on some exchange, this forum was kind of required thing so I said to give a try, so I'm still learning every day, I hope today will finish the Discord server so we can interact with anyone better, never heard of discord until now, I used Skype, FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc, new world, new tools that I need to get adapted and I will at some point Smiley
Anyway thank you for your time to find the weaknesses of this project, I really appreciate it, gives me a wide idea to create a SWOT analysis regarding this project, and that's always beneficial for any business.
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I am sorry if looks like a continuous scam project, I will take your advice and rewrite the whitepaper in the next weeks, I was more concentrated to the technical side of the project, learning on the go and so on, all the team members are mainly on Facebook with account made maybe 10 years ago, I heard about this forum some days ago when I tried to apply to get listed on some exchange, this forum was kind of required thing so I said to give a try, so I'm still learning every day, I hope today will finish the Discord server so we can interact with anyone better, never heard of discord until now, I used Skype, FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc, new world, new tools that I need to get adapted and I will at some point Smiley
Anyway thank you for your time to find the weaknesses of this project, I really appreciate it, gives me a wide idea to create a SWOT analysis regarding this project, and that's always beneficial for any business.

OK, now you're just telling us a bunch of lies.

First you claim that you were concentrated on the technical side of the project which would mean that you are one of the developers (the only developer??) and then you say that you heard about this forum a few days ago. You expect someone to believe that? There is no one who is involved in the technical side of cryptocurrencies who hasn't heard of this forum.

Second, you said before that you may have misunderstood the purpose of the whitepaper which is another lie. It is obvious that you have studied the whitepapers of many coins in order to copy the contents that suit you.

So far, all you've said contradicts itself, so the only logical explanation is that you use lies to conceal your laziness and/or incompetence.

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I am sorry if looks like a continuous scam project, I will take your advice and rewrite the whitepaper in the next weeks, I was more concentrated to the technical side of the project, learning on the go and so on, all the team members are mainly on Facebook with account made maybe 10 years ago, I heard about this forum some days ago when I tried to apply to get listed on some exchange, this forum was kind of required thing so I said to give a try, so I'm still learning every day, I hope today will finish the Discord server so we can interact with anyone better, never heard of discord until now, I used Skype, FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc, new world, new tools that I need to get adapted and I will at some point Smiley
Anyway thank you for your time to find the weaknesses of this project, I really appreciate it, gives me a wide idea to create a SWOT analysis regarding this project, and that's always beneficial for any business.

OK, now you're just telling us a bunch of lies.

First you claim that you were concentrated on the technical side of the project which would mean that you are one of the developers (the only developer??) and then you say that you heard about this forum a few days ago. You expect someone to believe that? There is no one who is involved in the technical side of cryptocurrencies who hasn't heard of this forum.

Second, you said before that you may have misunderstood the purpose of the whitepaper which is another lie. It is obvious that you have studied the whitepapers of many coins in order to copy the contents that suit you.

So far, all you've said contradicts itself, so the only logical explanation is that you use lies to conceal your laziness and/or incompetence.


He should have admitted his shortcomings here rather than giving more lies. If they have long term mission for this project, they already draft their SWOT analysis on their own before they launched this one in public. Most copy-paste projects are in a hurry to deploy their project so they can collect funds from naive users. Some people in the forum are doing their job of looking for potential scam or crap projects. So users will not fall for them or at least give them warning about the possible fate of the project.

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April 18, 2021, 05:40:29 AM
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I am sorry if looks like a continuous scam project, I will take your advice and rewrite the whitepaper in the next weeks, I was more concentrated to the technical side of the project, learning on the go and so on, all the team members are mainly on Facebook with account made maybe 10 years ago, I heard about this forum some days ago when I tried to apply to get listed on some exchange, this forum was kind of required thing so I said to give a try, so I'm still learning every day, I hope today will finish the Discord server so we can interact with anyone better, never heard of discord until now, I used Skype, FB messenger, WhatsApp, etc, new world, new tools that I need to get adapted and I will at some point Smiley
Anyway thank you for your time to find the weaknesses of this project, I really appreciate it, gives me a wide idea to create a SWOT analysis regarding this project, and that's always beneficial for any business.

OK, now you're just telling us a bunch of lies.

First you claim that you were concentrated on the technical side of the project which would mean that you are one of the developers (the only developer??) and then you say that you heard about this forum a few days ago. You expect someone to believe that? There is no one who is involved in the technical side of cryptocurrencies who hasn't heard of this forum.

Second, you said before that you may have misunderstood the purpose of the whitepaper which is another lie. It is obvious that you have studied the whitepapers of many coins in order to copy the contents that suit you.

So far, all you've said contradicts itself, so the only logical explanation is that you use lies to conceal your laziness and/or incompetence.


He should have admitted his shortcomings here rather than giving more lies. If they have long term mission for this project, they already draft their SWOT analysis on their own before they launched this one in public. Most copy-paste projects are in a hurry to deploy their project so they can collect funds from naive users. Some people in the forum are doing their job of looking for potential scam or crap projects. So users will not fall for them or at least give them warning about the possible fate of the project.
If I would have time to reply here to any person the same thing again and again I would never do anything better with my life, I told my side of story, anybody can think what they want, will go forward with my project no matter what anyone could say and believe, in my terms and until now with my own personal hard working funds, so I'm not taking bullshit from no one, people can make mistakes, people can repair mistakes, that doesn't mean I'm here to scam nobody, I have my plan printed in my brain very well to succeed, with or without help from any investors, is the people coin after all, wish you all a good one but will not follow anymore this topic because negativity talk and conspiracy theories are not my way of living the life, as well the big whitepaper is not something I rely on it, as soon as I'm investing my time and money in this project others hate have zero impact on me so I let you continue with yours, with time the true will show up.
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... so I'm not taking bullshit from no one
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I don't really care, I'm not here for you.

You started your project by plagiarizing and stealing from other people's work. So please forgive me if I don't sympathize with your situation and your efforts because you didn't make justice to the original authors. You emphasize your time and money invested, but, at the same time, you diminish the value of someone else's effort. And you don't seem to be sorry about it. These are facts, not conspiracy theories. Deal with it.

If you had nothing to hide, you'd use your real user account to post, not a newbie throwaway account. In this industry, reputation is everything.

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What happened:  Plagiarism whitepaper
A lot of copied material, without providing links where it was taken from.

Flag type 1 (support/oppose): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2703


ANN Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330604.0
Archive link: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5678/56782748.html
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3242422
Website link: https://www.antimonycoin.com/
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210407203227/https://www.antimonycoin.com/
Whitepaper : https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/antimony-whitepaper.pdf
Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210411091158/https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/antimony-whitepaper.pdf

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Domain Name: ANTIMONYCOIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2599446462_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.ovh.com
Registrar URL: http://www.ovh.com
Updated Date: 2021-03-21T09:01:00Z
Creation Date: 2021-03-21T08:57:13Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-03-21T08:57:13Z


Plagiarism whitepaper from :

https://i.ibb.co/qrdYSvG/Screenshot-1.png

https://i.ibb.co/FK7VcHm/Screenshot.png
https://steemit.com/crypto/@aisyah-rahayu/yusra-global-your-unique-system-of-real-assets

https://i.ibb.co/cwhDTLb/Screenshot.png

https://i.ibb.co/NKjD2RZ/Screenshot-1.png
https://tajikistannewsgazette.com/bitcoin-soars-to-record-high-of-62000/

https://i.ibb.co/qFjq0d2/Screenshot.png

https://i.ibb.co/Fm95xMx/Screenshot-1.png
https://i.ibb.co/M1nFNWn/Screenshot-2.png
https://cryptobazar.io/media/pdf/CryptoBazarFund_Eng_180221.pdf

https://i.ibb.co/kgMNQtP/Screenshot.png

https://i.ibb.co/tX1tMfN/Screenshot-1.png
https://cryptobazar.io/media/pdf/CryptoBazarFund_Eng_180221.pdf

https://i.ibb.co/PGKLsWN/Screenshot.png

https://i.ibb.co/yS8tS80/Screenshot-1.png
https://static.coinpaprika.com/storage/cdn/whitepapers/1547.pdf

https://i.ibb.co/SB78LJB/Screenshot-1.png

https://i.ibb.co/8chXhwP/Screenshot.png




Here is the new whitepaper: https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/atmnwhitepaper.pdf

It is possible to remove the negative review from my profile please?
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This user that raised the flag against my project I suspected to be a scam sponsored by some corporate side to shut projects before they even start because they don't like competition, I worked hard to bring this project to the point that is today, all the social media are accounts made years ago, at least my Facebook is more than 10 years ago made, also the company in the back Coinage Trading LTD made in the United Kingdom with my name on it can prove the genuine activity, until now we didn't ask anybody for money, the team financed the project. We also have projects behind not like other scam projects with the same bullshit ''dogi Shiba buggy BOGO'' and so on, our coin is for the community with no corporatists involved behind and will remain like that no matter what. The accusations can be assigned a flag but there are no ways to contest that in any way or remove until a scam is really confirmed, you cannot accuse somebody of a scam that has never been made at all, in this forum, there is no way to defend own image, that made this kind of flags and reviews under fascism rules from unknown users that might have some old accounts but not a real identity, my identity I can prove and is real and has been confirmed with numerous links to my social media accounts, and I can prove it any time to anybody who wants to meet me in person. I invited in previous posts any people to meet me in London if you think that I as founder behind I'm not real and not well-intentioned. You that are accusing me have all unknown profiles and nobody knows who is behind and your histories and real-life reputation. The first whitepaper yes was plagiarism because I assigned one individual to make it that affirm to be a specialist and now it is out of the team, for that doesn't mean that rest of us are scam or the project is a scam. It was a mistake from my side of too much trust that has been rectified. Also the OVH provider is one of the biggest hoster in the world, they have real data centers on more than one continent and you simply cannot purchase any server or domain without sending some Identification papers like ID, proof of address, or payment, they are not resellers that bought some servers from datacenters and let anybody host any bullshit whit false identity.
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The first whitepaper yes was plagiarism because I assigned one individual to make it that affirm to be a specialist and now it is out of the team, for that doesn't mean that rest of us are scam or the project is a scam. It was a mistake from my side of too much trust that has been rectified.
This is the common excuse from the most of the project which was accused here in past. And this is the common mistake ( plagiarize whitepaper ) by a project who make scam after token sale or ico. Then what you will realize by seeing your project which has copied others whitepaper to make it own?

What you said in above message that you worked hard to build this project and the twitter, fb profile was created atleast years ago. I really like and every project should work hard to make it successful. But if you do little more hard works to make the whitepaper unique without plagiarism, or atleast you should revise the whitepaper before publishing it (since it was written by other).

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The first whitepaper yes was plagiarism because I assigned one individual to make it that affirm to be a specialist and now it is out of the team, for that doesn't mean that rest of us are scam or the project is a scam. It was a mistake from my side of too much trust that has been rectified.
This is the common excuse from the most of the project which was accused here in past. And this is the common mistake ( plagiarize whitepaper ) by a project who make scam after token sale or ico. Then what you will realize by seeing your project which has copied others whitepaper to make it own?

What you said in above message that you worked hard to build this project and the twitter, fb profile was created atleast a year ago. I really like and every project should work hard to make it successful. But if you do little more hard works to make the whitepaper unique without plagiarism, or atleast you should revise the whitepaper before publishing it (since it was written by other).

Do you have idea of what are you talking? this profile was created one year ago? https://www.facebook.com/silviu.rusu.9   HuhHuhHuhHuh? are you joking? come there and video chat with me and I will add to my friends to see how old it is, and yes I did a new white paper that is right here:

https://www.antimonycoin.com/wp-content/uploads/atmnwhitepaper.pdf


Was the only one defect found then another haters come in and make several accuses with non-sense.

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Do you have idea of what are you talking? this profile was created one year ago? https://www.facebook.com/silviu.rusu.9   HuhHuhHuhHuh? are you jocking?
Ah, Sorry I did not read the extra 0, I thought it was 1. And You said all the social media are created atleast years ago. For why I said that.

Actually I tried to explain your positive things that you worked hard. And You should be more careful about the whitepaper for the first time. Smiley

*Sorry for my little mistake. It's updated. Smiley

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Do you have idea of what are you talking? this profile was created one year ago? https://www.facebook.com/silviu.rusu.9   HuhHuhHuhHuh? are you jocking?
Ah, Sorry I did not read the extra 0, I thought it was 1. And You said all the social media are created at least years ago. For why I said that.

Actually I tried to explain your positive things that you worked hard. And You should be more careful about the whitepaper for the first time. Smiley

*Sorry for my little mistake. It's updated. Smiley


Like I said before and again, anytime anywhere in London I can meet anybody to explain this project and confirm that I'm genuine and who is working on this, there are no hidden things behind it.
I have papers, I have proofs of the company house in England, UK, I have proofs of chat with that person.
If is nobody from the people who are making accusations here able to do that or do a video chat with me to end this bullshit then this forum has no reputation for being trustable and neither their users that are making the accusations.
If anyone is hiding behind a screen to accuse me and cannot defend the accusations then is fake or have something to hide. I totally exposed myself on this project, here and on social media.
As I said before, the topic owner made his point, I rectified the problem but Antimony is not a scam and should't be between this category, I have other team members that invest time and money in this including me and I cannot let anybody down for misunderstandings that have been created here.
 
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first of all, all bitcoin based cryptocurrencies, share the same source code, so it wouldnt be any "red flag" if they share information in their whitepapers,maybe lazyness from the creator but nothing more. i think you all are overreacting to a whitepaper issue, and i've seen this before, you all allow scam projects without even a website, but shutdown those that make the effort and take their time to progress.

bitcointalk forum has become very toxic since 2018, thats the reason why a lot of people is not using it anymore, and if this continue, in a couple of years no one will care.
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first of all, all bitcoin based cryptocurrencies, share the same source code, so it wouldnt be any "red flag" if they share information in their whitepapers,maybe lazyness from the creator but nothing more. i think you all are overreacting to a whitepaper issue, and i've seen this before, you all allow scam projects without even a website, but shutdown those that make the effort and take their time to progress.

bitcointalk forum has become very toxic since 2018, thats the reason why a lot of people is not using it anymore, and if this continue, in a couple of years no one will care.

Exactly, somebody told me that is a mafia here, a lot of flags on other projects without any sense they go through, our project that actually has a good plan and we demonstrate that because we actually start on doing them is blamed to maximum, how can these people sleep in the night knowing they fall apart projects that actually could change the world in better? I also answer, big corporations doesn't like communities to make competition, I can also give an example of some but for now, will close the eye, one-day Antimony will rise and all these large corporations playing with people money and all these lickers will fall down, I promise you this. People that want to know the project are always welcomed to join our community and be part of something that will make history instead of doing hate here and there. We don't have billions to pay teachers and professional enterprises for making everything look perfect then make global robbery. We will go global by individual efforts.
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