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A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever. https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=ampRumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night. Here's a video clip from this match up. https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only) Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft. Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media. Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball." Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job. I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud. Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.
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April 16, 2021, 01:12:38 PM |
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for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.
Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 16, 2021, 01:20:33 PM |
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Thanks for sharing the video, I heard about this but I did not bother to watch the video, until you share it. Wow, it looks like they are intentionally not scoring, I'm not sure if they are really tired but it's still in the first quarter and they look like already exhausted.
This should be investigated more, maybe not this team alone are involve, there could be more.
Anyway, since there's a rig, you know where you bet on this game in our crypto sportsbook here?
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April 16, 2021, 01:28:05 PM |
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If ever I know a sportsbook that have this match i'd surely bet on the winning team if ever I know which team is rigged to win. Why not grab the chance to win a bet on a sportsbook rather than watching a game that you know it's a rig and it won't be fun to watch the game at all. Anyway, did you have the chance to bet?. That would be helpful especially in this pandemic situation.
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April 16, 2021, 01:44:04 PM |
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Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.
It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.
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April 16, 2021, 02:07:52 PM |
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These sounds like choosing the final outcome for getting as few points possible after seeing the video.It is good that the officials stopped the game as rigged games should be terminated as soon as there is a sign of it.I think some of these players if are into it risk jail or at least being excluded some years before playing again in a professional level.
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April 16, 2021, 02:11:24 PM |
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It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game.
the issue was linked to gambling . if any of this team betted huge amount of money they are going to get rich but how can this happen if they acted in the court poorly and the game was postponed ? gambling bets are also going to get cancelled . However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.
i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers
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April 16, 2021, 02:21:19 PM |
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damn, this is hard to watch, I'm not even a huge basketball fan but there are tons of holes on the enemy's defence and they are just ignoring it. I hope the investigation find's something regarding the cheating because they didn't and that is their legitimate plays, their plays are just embarrassing. Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? checking google it seems that vismin cup has some sort of "bubble" and players are being tested for covid to check if they are haven't been infected. https://www.dugout.ph/2021/04/visayas-bubble-players-test.html
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April 16, 2021, 02:50:47 PM |
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i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers
Too many people live in an imaginary world, and the reality is something else entirely - why should it be weird that there is bribery and corruption in sports, or that athletes are blackmailed into doing something against their will? Wherever big money revolves, crime is present - and sport is just one big money factory that everyone wants their share of. Lie detectors, however, are not something that can be proof that someone is really lying - so they cannot be the solution to the problem. The sport is full of scandals, some are public - but at least so many have never seen the light of day -> List of sporting scandals.
checking google it seems that vismin cup has some sort of "bubble" and players are being tested for covid to check if they are haven't been infected.
Thanks for the info which then indicates that the problem was not in the physical fitness, but it is really a rigged game.
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April 16, 2021, 03:05:15 PM |
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A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever. https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=ampRumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night. Here's a video clip from this match up. https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only) Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft. Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media. Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball." Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job. I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud. Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports. saw the video and it's a disgrace to basketball and to the league, imagine taking a free throw shot using the left and right shooting hand? and a layup that is wide open, imagine what will you feel if you are the owner of the team that is playing paying them with money with that kind of performance, they should not ever play professional basketball ever again, they should be blocklisted to play in any league, with that unprofessional attitude in the court.
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April 16, 2021, 03:23:21 PM |
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Here's a video clip from this match up. https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only) Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft. That was totally a disgrace, damn, I too can't believe on what I saw, an obvious one indeed unlike to other rigged games you won't much notice that it was totally rigged, they'll somewhat entertain you somehow. This is totally shit, can't call this as professionals...
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April 16, 2021, 07:02:43 PM |
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I am not sure about the one you mentioned but honestly match-fixing and rigging in sports has reached the highest levels right now after the pandemic because maybe the players need more money and the bettors are taking advantage of this.
I was watching a dota2 match recently between SG Esports and Noping (sorry if the team's names are slightly mistyped) and the game was an obvious throw and anyone who watched it can easily tell that.
I have seen some of the NBA matches with a comeback from 20+ points which I am not accusing are fixed but surely something is wrong. There are some of the CBA (Chinese basketball) matches that are so obviously rigged that you can literally laugh your ass at how the referees are giving fouls and making a particular team win.
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April 16, 2021, 07:11:58 PM |
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There will always be bad apples on a tree and that's what these guys are obviously. If they are to play on a rigged event, I'm sure there's a lot of money involved to this. Probably high-ranking officials and team owners of the league are also involved, as was always the case whenever a match is fixed. On these types of leagues, there will always be teams and team owners that will tarnish the name of the game in exchange for a couple more thousand in the bank.
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April 16, 2021, 07:32:12 PM |
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My intention was to watch the whole five-minute video but I had to stop and close after one minute. The other "turnovers" and "misses" could pass but that open lay up? Even amateurs play harder and more realistic than this with money on the line. Hehehe.
The team management and players deserves a lengthy suspension or a total ban from the sport with hefty fines.
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April 16, 2021, 08:47:06 PM |
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There's another one being shared here. Now from the MPBL. DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing caseFittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.
Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu. This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation. This is anothe big blow on the Philippine basketball... corruption are everywhere, I thought its only happening in politics but I'm surprise its also happening in sports, now these people if proven guilty will have to face the consequences of their criminal offense, remember its criminal, and I think they'll not spare here because they are messing against Manny who is a senator.
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April 16, 2021, 09:00:10 PM |
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My intention was to watch the whole five-minute video but I had to stop and close after one minute. The other "turnovers" and "misses" could pass but that open lay up? Even amateurs play harder and more realistic than this with money on the line. Hehehe.
The team management and players deserves a lengthy suspension or a total ban from the sport with hefty fines.
Total ban should be enough because these kind of obvious rigging is definitely illegal and cant be tolerated or they should be fined on very high amount so that they wouldnt really tend to do that in the future. This is really disrespecting the sport and towards also to the fans which it do sucks big time.Seeing on the video on where its obviously somethings off with those move considering that is professional game then only dumb person who cant even recognize those shitty plays.
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April 16, 2021, 09:02:11 PM |
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A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever. Here's a video clip from this match up. https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only) Looks like someone spiked the athletes drinking water with something that would make them uncoordinated and not be recommended to operate heavy machinery for awhile. Moreso than a rigged game. There are professional sumo wrestlers who admit to rigging matches. NBA referees have been investigated and prosecuted for trying to influence and rig games in one direction or another. I think everyone knows GGG defeated Canelo Alvarez in boxing twice, no matter what judges said about it. There is a long, illustrious and documented history of corruption in sports. Its a topic that is discouraged and not reported on much. But it does exist.
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April 16, 2021, 09:09:10 PM |
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Really an obvious rigged match. Many fans were very disappointed with the incident. I encourage everyone to watch those videos that are related to this news, it's really big news in our country. You'll see those free throws that were obviously done intentionally to miss it. Players involved in this match will surely haunt them if they're not sorry of what happened.
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April 16, 2021, 09:11:07 PM |
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for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.
Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yeah I don't know If someone in this community doesn't want to believe in fixed games, but I knew someone back in my hometown before lol. I still can't believe him ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers
Too many people live in an imaginary world, and the reality is something else entirely - why should it be weird that there is bribery and corruption in sports, or that athletes are blackmailed into doing something against their will? Wherever big money revolves, crime is present - and sport is just one big money factory that everyone wants their share of. Lie detectors, however, are not something that can be proof that someone is really lying - so they cannot be the solution to the problem. Gambling is indeed a dirty business. I have remember the Michael Jordan's father killing controversy. I'm not sure If y'all familiar with it, but I guess that was a prime example of black mailing an athlete to control the outcome of the game.
Btw, this whole VisMin cup has been temporarily suspended as the investigation was still going on. Some says the other team (the low scoring team) has been banned, while the other team had several of their players suspended and fined.
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April 16, 2021, 09:35:52 PM |
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Btw, this whole VisMin cup has been temporarily suspended as the investigation was still going on. Some says the other team (the low scoring team) has been banned, while the other team had several of their players suspended and fined.
This is what happen if the rigging is rampant, it become obivous and as a consequences, not only the team are put at risk but the whole league, imagine how much money they loss because of this suspension. I guess there should be a bigger punishment for those who are found guilty, a ban in any league for life would be suited for them. @Kelvinid... Thanks for posting it here, it's already relevant to the topic.
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