An obvious rigging of Sports.

[Oasisman]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

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[NeuroticFish]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

[Vaculin]

Thanks for sharing the video, I heard about this but I did not bother to watch the video, until you share it.
Wow, it looks like they are intentionally not scoring, I'm not sure if they are really tired but it's still in the first quarter and they look like already exhausted.

This should be investigated more, maybe not this team alone are involve, there could be more.

Anyway, since there's a rig, you know where you bet on this game in our crypto sportsbook here?

[nakamura12]

If ever I know a sportsbook that have this match i'd surely bet on the winning team if ever I know which team is rigged to win. Why not grab the chance to win a bet on a sportsbook rather than watching a game that you know it's a rig and it won't be fun to watch the game at all. Anyway, did you have the chance to bet?. That would be helpful especially in this pandemic situation.

[Lucius]

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

[swogerino]

These sounds like choosing the final outcome for getting as few points possible after seeing the video.It is good that the officials stopped the game as rigged games should be terminated as soon as there is a sign of it.I think some of these players if are into it risk jail or at least being excluded some years before playing again in a professional level.

[imstillthebest]

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game.

the issue was linked to gambling .
 if any of this team betted huge amount of money they are going to get rich but how can this happen if they acted in the court poorly and the game was postponed ?
 gambling bets are also going to get cancelled .

However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers

[acroman08]

damn, this is hard to watch, I'm not even a huge basketball fan but there are tons of holes on the enemy's defence and they are just ignoring it. I hope the investigation find's something regarding the cheating because they didn't and that is their legitimate plays, their plays are just embarrassing.

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests?

checking google it seems that vismin cup has some sort of "bubble" and players are being tested for covid to check if they are haven't been infected.

https://www.dugout.ph/2021/04/visayas-bubble-players-test.html

[Lucius]

i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers

Too many people live in an imaginary world, and the reality is something else entirely - why should it be weird that there is bribery and corruption in sports, or that athletes are blackmailed into doing something against their will? Wherever big money revolves, crime is present - and sport is just one big money factory that everyone wants their share of. Lie detectors, however, are not something that can be proof that someone is really lying - so they cannot be the solution to the problem.

The sport is full of scandals, some are public - but at least so many have never seen the light of day -> List of sporting scandals.

checking google it seems that vismin cup has some sort of "bubble" and players are being tested for covid to check if they are haven't been infected.

Thanks for the info which then indicates that the problem was not in the physical fitness, but it is really a rigged game.

[akirasendo17]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

saw the video and it's a disgrace to basketball and to the league, imagine taking a free throw shot using the left and right shooting hand? and a layup that is wide open, imagine what will you feel if you are the owner of the team that is playing paying them with money with that kind of performance, they should not ever play professional basketball ever again, they should be blocklisted to play in any league, with that unprofessional attitude in the court.

[cabalism13]

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

That was totally a disgrace, damn, I too can't believe on what I saw, an obvious one indeed unlike to other rigged games you won't much notice that it was totally rigged, they'll somewhat entertain you somehow. This is totally shit, can't call this as professionals...

[fullhdpixel]

I am not sure about the one you mentioned but honestly match-fixing and rigging in sports has reached the highest levels right now after the pandemic because maybe the players need more money and the bettors are taking advantage of this.

I was watching a dota2 match recently between SG Esports and Noping (sorry if the team's names are slightly mistyped) and the game was an obvious throw and anyone who watched it can easily tell that.

I have seen some of the NBA matches with a comeback from 20+ points which I am not accusing are fixed but surely something is wrong. There are some of the CBA (Chinese basketball) matches that are so obviously rigged that you can literally laugh your ass at how the referees are giving fouls and making a particular team win.

[dothebeats]

There will always be bad apples on a tree and that's what these guys are obviously. If they are to play on a rigged event, I'm sure there's a lot of money involved to this. Probably high-ranking officials and team owners of the league are also involved, as was always the case whenever a match is fixed. On these types of leagues, there will always be teams and team owners that will tarnish the name of the game in exchange for a couple more thousand in the bank.

[Yogee]

My intention was to watch the whole five-minute video but I had to stop and close after one minute. The other "turnovers" and "misses" could pass but that open lay up? Even amateurs play harder and more realistic than this with money on the line. Hehehe. 

The team management and players deserves a lengthy suspension or a total ban from the sport with hefty fines.

[Kelvinid]

There's another one being shared here.

Now from the MPBL.

DOJ to file criminal raps against 17 in MPBL game-fixing case

Fittingly, news of the breakthrough comes just a day after a new regional league, the Pilipinas VisMin Super Cup, banned one team for life and suspended and fined members of another ballclub after a dubious game.

Curiously, among those charged were Joshua Alcober aka Desmond Alcober, who was one of the members of the Siquijor Mystics ballclub that was hit with a lifetime ban on Thursday following their controversial match against Lapu-Lapu.

This is the right thing to do, charge them criminally so everyone will see this as a warning not do game fixing which ruined our reputation.

This is anothe big blow on the Philippine basketball... corruption are everywhere, I thought its only happening in politics but I'm surprise its also happening in sports, now these people if proven guilty will have to face the consequences of their criminal offense, remember its criminal, and I think they'll not spare here because they are messing against Manny who is a senator.

[Quidat]

My intention was to watch the whole five-minute video but I had to stop and close after one minute. The other "turnovers" and "misses" could pass but that open lay up? Even amateurs play harder and more realistic than this with money on the line. Hehehe. 

The team management and players deserves a lengthy suspension or a total ban from the sport with hefty fines.

Total ban should be enough because these kind of obvious rigging is definitely illegal and cant be tolerated or they should be fined on very high amount so that they wouldnt really tend to do that in the future.

This is really disrespecting the sport and towards also to  the fans which it do sucks big time.Seeing on the video on where its obviously somethings off with those move
considering that is professional game then only dumb person who cant even recognize those shitty plays.

[Hydrogen]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)

Looks like someone spiked the athletes drinking water with something that would make them uncoordinated and not be recommended to operate heavy machinery for awhile. Moreso than a rigged game.

There are professional sumo wrestlers who admit to rigging matches. NBA referees have been investigated and prosecuted for trying to influence and rig games in one direction or another. I think everyone knows GGG defeated Canelo Alvarez in boxing twice, no matter what judges said about it.

There is a long, illustrious and documented history of corruption in sports. Its a topic that is discouraged and not reported on much. But it does exist.

[blockman]

Really an obvious rigged match. Many fans were very disappointed with the incident. I encourage everyone to watch those videos that are related to this news, it's really big news in our country.
You'll see those free throws that were obviously done intentionally to miss it. Players involved in this match will surely haunt them if they're not sorry of what happened.

[Oasisman]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

Yeah I don't know If someone in this community doesn't want to believe in fixed games, but I knew someone back in my hometown before lol. I still can't believe him 

i only see this in the movies but do this trully happen for real ? but teams should be investigate if what is the truth . they need to prepare lie detector test to eliminate liers

Too many people live in an imaginary world, and the reality is something else entirely - why should it be weird that there is bribery and corruption in sports, or that athletes are blackmailed into doing something against their will? Wherever big money revolves, crime is present - and sport is just one big money factory that everyone wants their share of. Lie detectors, however, are not something that can be proof that someone is really lying - so they cannot be the solution to the problem.

Gambling is indeed a dirty business. I have remember the Michael Jordan's father killing controversy. I'm not sure If y'all familiar with it, but I guess that was a prime example of black mailing an athlete to control the outcome of the game.
Btw, this whole VisMin cup has been temporarily suspended as the investigation was still going on. Some says the other team (the low scoring team) has been banned, while the other team had several of their players suspended and fined.

[Kasabus]

Btw, this whole VisMin cup has been temporarily suspended as the investigation was still going on. Some says the other team (the low scoring team) has been banned, while the other team had several of their players suspended and fined.

This is what happen if the rigging is rampant, it become obivous and as a consequences, not only the team are put at risk but the whole league, imagine how much money they loss because of this suspension. I guess there should be a bigger punishment for those who are found guilty, a ban in any league for life would be suited for them.

@Kelvinid... Thanks for posting it here, it's already relevant to the topic.

[stomachgrowls]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)

Looks like someone spiked the athletes drinking water with something that would make them uncoordinated and not be recommended to operate heavy machinery for awhile. Moreso than a rigged game.

There are professional sumo wrestlers who admit to rigging matches. NBA referees have been investigated and prosecuted for trying to influence and rig games in one direction or another. I think everyone knows GGG defeated Canelo Alvarez in boxing twice, no matter what judges said about it.

There is a long, illustrious and documented history of corruption in sports. Its a topic that is discouraged and not reported on much. But it does exist.

Its impossible for it not to be reported specially if such event do came from a big league or organization which would really be giving out that impression that might affect it as a whole
which is one of the effects on dragging up the sport because of those rigging scenario.

Thanks for sharing up @Oasisman and its true that corruption in sports does exist whenever big money is involved behind the curtains.

Sanctions and big penalties should really be charged on so that this would take a lesson for them.Total ban will surely make them regret..

[AmoreJaz]

Btw, this whole VisMin cup has been temporarily suspended as the investigation was still going on. Some says the other team (the low scoring team) has been banned, while the other team had several of their players suspended and fined.

This is what happen if the rigging is rampant, it become obivous and as a consequences, not only the team are put at risk but the whole league, imagine how much money they loss because of this suspension. I guess there should be a bigger punishment for those who are found guilty, a ban in any league for life would be suited for them.

@Kelvinid... Thanks for posting it here, it's already relevant to the topic.

and the shame brought about this incident will tarnish their reputation in basketball. that's too bad, the money involved might not even cover their losses. if you are rigging a game like this, it will really be obvious as people's eyes are on you on this game. and if you are familiar with the players, you know if there is really something wrong.
wonder if they still have a future on this sports. this will not be forgotten for long time. and it will be attached to their name as they move forward in this sports. they made it too obvious for people to see this kind of cheating..

[ReiMomo]

Very obvious that they try to manipulate the result of the game. They will I guess be great players but they aren’t really that good at faking or manipulating. It is very obvious when you watch the youtube video, you can see how these stupid players think that they can manipulate the result of the game that way. Like what the hell was that?

We had to accept that sometimes, manipulation is actually happening especially since money is involved in sports because of sportsbooks and p2p high-end bets. But executing it this way is a ruin.

[MCobian]

I am not surprised that there have been instances of game manipulation being carried out, because they will do anything to get money.
Despite the risk, those involved will receive penalties and fines for committing rigging of sports. Things like this often happen in the world of
sports, especially since the circulation of money in sports gambling is very large. Surely it can make people willing to commit rigging,
especially as a pandemic situation like now affects the finances of sportsmen.

[Becky666]

<snip>
Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Personally, i don't think there are still humans that doesn't know that fixed matches do exist even in the past till present. In my country there has been several fixed matches around and nothing was done to offenders in questions the worst that took place was in 2013 which is here: Nigeria suspends football teams over 'scandalous' 79-0 and 67-0 scorelines the suspension was on the papers and not executed.

[robelneo]

Judging from the moves of the players it's intentional this is a league even if it's an amateur game, players will not move like this,
The league is right in their action

VisMin Super Cup wasted no time and officially expelled the Siquijor Mystics from the league and sanctioned several ARQ-Lapu Lapu Heroes players and coaches on Thursday, April 15, one day after their controversial game.

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Even the coaches are at fault here, they should not allow this kind of moves on their players, players and coaches who are involved should be ban for life or face hefty penalties they are the people who will ruin the league

[plr]

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

I watched the game and I'm disappointed they are no only taking it seriously but they are making it appear that the game is fixed, it's obviously fixed and they should impose a stiff penalty they are making their league which gives them a livelihood a big laughing stock, even amateur players can play better basketball.

[Maasdamer]

Same in turkish basketball league right now.

Galatasaray vs Bursa, ultra rigged.

Pregame in morning odds went from 2,8 on Bursa down to 2.2, afternoon suddenly back up to 3.3 for Bursa (no player out or whatever).
Gala has nothing to play for, cant reach playoffs, cant go down. Bursa must win to keep a chance for playoffs.

Bursa leading by 17 in the 1st quarter and by 13 after 2min in the 3rd and the odds were still 50/50. Then comes a 38:9 run for Gala over 11 minutes of game time.

Whole game Galatasaray has made 27/33 free throws, Bursa has 2/2 .

33 : 2 free throws, in a game with super strange odds moves and runs.

Yeah right.

[alegotardo]

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

OMG, this is very shameful!!!

This certainly exists in several games and in the most varied sports.
Sports games have long since ceased to use for entertainment to becoming a profitable business.

Worst of all is the difficulty in finding evidence that identifies this and thus punishing players and teams.

[iv4n]

What a comedy show this video is! This video is hilarious, I laughed like insane!

I think these guys (players, coaches, the entire clubs) should be banned from playing ever again! This is an obvious example of how stupid some people can be, and of course, they are on YouTube now! The world is laughing!

Nothing new in the world of sports... games got rigged all the time, but some of "the tries" are simply retarded! Whatever punishment they get will not be enough probably!

[Kakmakr]

It is sick that so many professional players are willing to throw games and cheat these days. There should be a life time ban on players, when they find them guilty of rigging sport. I used to enjoy Cricket ..until it came to light how many of the games are being rigged and now I do not watch the game anymore.

Also, when there are boxing or UFC, you will notice how many of these fights end up with the win for each fighter... so that a 3rd decider could be fought. (It is now so predictable, it aint funny anymore) 

[just_Alice]

Yeah, that definitely looks rigged. I felt uncomfortable just watching that, seriously, this is just embarrassing. And it's not just the way they're playing, but the expressions on the faces! When there's a real game you can see fear, excitement, disappointment, etc. Right here it can be seen that they clearly knew what was the outcome going to be. Sports players make so much money, why are they doing that to their fans? And risking careers?
Sometimes I think that these sportsmen are just pinned down to facts that they should play the game as planned and get threats, because I see no logical reason for this. How greedy can you be?

[iTradeChips]

Maybe these kinds of riggings are so well hidden that I myself refused to believe that until now. It is disrespectful of the whole scene of Philippine Basketball right now that these kinds of people are obviously not playing well and got very obvious in their dealings that the whole internet was able to notice it. Anyway if there are things that we need to bother right now, this will be the least of our worries but this game tarnishes everything Philippine basketball has gained for the past century since the sport was introduced in the American era.

[Oceat]

It is sick that so many professional players are willing to throw games and cheat these days. There should be a life time ban on players, when they find them guilty of rigging sport. I used to enjoy Cricket ..until it came to light how many of the games are being rigged and now I do not watch the game anymore.

Also, when there are boxing or UFC, you will notice how many of these fights end up with the win for each fighter... so that a 3rd decider could be fought. (It is now so predictable, it aint funny anymore) 

Welp, someone is controlling them I suspect or it's their own choices why they have to do it because nowadays it's hard to earn money especially with this pandemic. But these players are gambling their career over a single win money that would cause them a lifetime punishment.

Also these promoters seem to be playing the people who loves to bet with their favorite player/team that's why they need to make more upcoming fight so that people who loves to bet would still have a chance to win and of course, we know what they are after why they were doing this because the more people involved the more money would come to them. It's somehow a dirty kind of business IMO.

[hulla]

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

[Stedsm]

I don't say that I don't believe in fixed games, but the type of fixed games I'm talking about, never looked like they were fixed. But this one literally looked like it was fixed and both teams' players were looking like they were playing for one team only. That was seriously ridiculous and I too respect the referee on stopping the game after the first half to keep the dignity of the game intact.

[Twentyonepaylots]

The behavior of the players are more than enough evidence to confirm that this is indeed a fixed game, there's no way a pro basketball player commits mistakes like that consistently throughout the game, and just how lame and limpy these players look, as if their enthusiasm for the game has died out all of a sudden, it's very much a fixed game, an obvious one at that, and I'm glad the committee handling this match called it off early, hopefully each team receives sanctions and penalties for such violation because this is a blatant disrespect to Basketball.

[magneto]

Match fixing is something that is probably a lot more rife than people expect.

Especially in leagues where the players are poorly paid and the league is poorly regulated, match fixing can be the bulk of a player's overall income. There were numerous fixing scandals involving international cricketers in the subcontinent as well as South Africa.

Though, you don't want to bet on an event thinking that you know the rigged result. Without information, the outcome is still virtually random to you. And if you do have the information, then the sportsbook may refuse to pay you out.

[dunfida]

The behavior of the players are more than enough evidence to confirm that this is indeed a fixed game, there's no way a pro basketball player commits mistakes like that consistently throughout the game, and just how lame and limpy these players look, as if their enthusiasm for the game has died out all of a sudden, it's very much a fixed game, an obvious one at that, and I'm glad the committee handling this match called it off early, hopefully each team receives sanctions and penalties for such violation because this is a blatant disrespect to Basketball.

With those kind of shots and movement then i would rather watch an elementary or high school game rather than on seeing this one.Im really annoyed on how those
player moves and even a single lay up which is utterly bullshit in form and with those blocks and trying to be blind on not making any defense even if the opponent
is on the front and just letting them pass by.

This is a shameful situation on rigging up the game and does give out some stain in the reputation on the entire league.They should be fined or sanctioned.

[Saisher]

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.



Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

This is the first time I've seen this kind of game, players do not care on defense and on making a point, it's obviously rigged and they do not even know how to rig a game, look on how they play they making a fool of everyone and even themselves, they think they can get away on something that is pretty obvious, if I am a league commissioner or a team manager I would not even think of hiring these players.

[smyslov]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

[Twinkledoe]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

The title should be - How to easily get caught rigging a game.  Viewers are not dumb. Don't know what they are thinking here for being so obvious considering that their career is at stake. Maybe, they thought people will just be silent about it because it is still pandemic. Hope they will get the necessary punishment for ruining the reputation of the game.

[Wexnident]

Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

[Oasisman]

Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

The league made a thorough review and concluded that it was an obvious fixed games.
Suspensions and fines has been issued upon the players, but I'm not satisfied with the weight of the sanction, It seems a bit lighter than it's supposed to be. I mean these guys are fraud.
I don't have any idea how much money they'll supposed to get from the online bettors If they have successfully rigged the game.

Don't know what they are thinking here for being so obvious considering that their career is at stake.

Of course they know what are the consequences once they are caught red handed. Their professional basketball license are currently in danger for revocation.
Maybe they're good at basketball, but they're not good at acting like they don't know the game. So, this unfortunate things happened to them.

[maydna]

There is more reason why they do that thing, and we can only guess it.

But it is no surprise to see if in a sports game something will happen. Perhaps, they want to give a reality show in the sports game, but unfortunately, that ruins the reputation of the game itself. The manipulation can happen in that game, and while we are still at the pandemic, not many people will watch the match so that they can do that.

[Pamadar]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes I believe there are a lot of fixed games, but based on what I saw on the video, they are blatantly showing that they are fixing the game, I did not finish watching the videos, this video can be classified as a tutorial on how to fix a basketball game, it's ugly they have done it in a bad taste and they have made a mockery of the tournament, glad that the league officers have taken action on this.

There are lots of game fixing but this one was  obvious and really desperate.

This kind of players didn't deserve any respect, ruining the game that most young generations loves is not a good practice, for those
who watch and learn about this game fixing types of action, it's so clear that from how they organize this game everything is being
fixed, the result is already known before the final buzzer.

[jostorres]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Fixed games are everywhere . Individual gamblers like you and me cannot do anything about that. Gambling industry is already a billion dollar worthy one hence bigshots are trying to fish out it by their own way. When they already have big money then they easily convince players to play like how they want final results as guessing results based on skills of players is too difficult for anyone but manipulation is the easiest way for them to profit from betting.

I remember a betting on one of famous crypto platform here. That betting was first half of the match and someone placed bet for zero goals for bet amount around 15 BTCs and the team did not score any goal and then they won around 30 BTC and I lost around 0.1 BTC. The way it looked definitely a fixed one and after that I lost my interest on sportsbetting slowly.

[LogitechMouse]

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

I don't know if this is true but I have a theory that there are some authorities that are ordering these players to fix it because of their bet thus, we saw games like this from them.
For me, these players aren't professional at all because they can sacrifice their career just for the sake of these stupid rich people. These players are playing not for their career but for the people who are betting. Blackmailing maybe is being used to them just to play like this but.. I don't know.

Now with regards to game fixing here in our country, I believe that there are some instances that there are games that are being fixed but not as obvious as this one. Even the players from the opposing team felt that they are being toyed just because of how unprofessional these players are. I'm expecting more of these in our country in the future and possible in some other countries too.

[YuginKadoya]

That one time they say the game is rigged because a player's free throw was very unusual but apparently I think there is an investigation that is on its way to certain officials and management of this event, and if this kind of event is proven Rigged then surely there are punishments to the people that involve and commit this kind of thing and the Philippine Basketball Association will not tolerate such kind of act.

The person that did the free throw was already suspended for the whole season and will be fine 15,000 Pesos but I think there is a lot more behind this kind of controversy that needs to be dealt with not just one person to be there scapegoat.

[coin-investor]

I don't know if this is true but I have a theory that there are some authorities that are ordering these players to fix it because of their bet thus, we saw games like this from them.
For me, these players aren't professional at all because they can sacrifice their careers just for the sake of these stupid rich people. These players are playing not for their career but for the people who are betting. Blackmailing maybe is being used to them just to play like this but.. I don't know.

It's true, you can easily tell that they are fixing the game, they intentionally miss those shots and they are playing as if they don't care about scoring a long time basketball spectators can easily tell that they are trying to manipulate the game they do not want to win the game and they want to give the game to the other team, if these players are being blackmailed then they should tell the governing officials or they will be banished forever from playing in any league.

[acroman08]

Ok, that was such a huge disrespect for the game and for the viewers. I don't know how to play Basketball but I swear I'd put more effort than them at that point. They aren't even hiding it ngl, it's blatantly obvious. I mean, even a team that bloody played for 2,3 hours straight wouldn't be THAT bad. I'm just glad that the refs stopped the game midway, like holy even I as a viewer online would bloody stop watching, call it a day, and hope that it was just a dream.

Man, sports ethics have gone to be so low with some teams that it just feels so... odd? Out of place? Like idk, it lost that simple common sense value that we all hold. I'm pretty sure they themselves could realize how stupid they looked.

The league made a thorough review and concluded that it was an obvious fixed games.
Suspensions and fines has been issued upon the players, but I'm not satisfied with the weight of the sanction, It seems a bit lighter than it's supposed to be. I mean these guys are fraud.
I don't have any idea how much money they'll supposed to get from the online bettors If they have successfully rigged the game.

if someone will file a case against them then they could be criminally charged. this(link below) article was just recently released and the players connected to the game-fixing 2019 Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League(MBPL) has been criminally charged. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to the recent scandal on VisMin Cup.

https://sports.inquirer.net/420748/cracking-the-whip

[Chato1977]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

The Most Stupid Issue i ever heard in Basketball and this is happening to the Philippines ? Yeah they are not that wise and obviously showing their BS actions.

No wonder why Basketball is becoming lessen and lessen to be popular not like back in 1970's to early 2000

[aioc]

if someone will file a case against them then they could be criminally charged. this(link below) article was just recently released and the players connected to the game-fixing 2019 Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League(MBPL) has been criminally charged. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to the recent scandal on VisMin Cup.

https://sports.inquirer.net/420748/cracking-the-whip

Game fixing should have no place in a game very much loved by the Filipinos, any player who are found guilty should be ban forever, the fans and the paying public only deserves the best, it's very unfortunate that it happen in a league managed by Manny Pacquiao, who love the game of basketball so much, they should be ashamed of themselves, they have a job when it's very hard to find a job now as a basketball player.

[Reatim]

I Hate reading this kind of stuff because this ruin my believe in basketball that i used to be Loved for lifetime.

I love watching the fairness and specially the momentum of the game in the last 5 minutes.

But this news? F*CK the involved in this fixing and They must be gone in the basketball industry because they will end the career of every basketball players in the philippines.

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.

[lablab03]

They're like kids playing basketball. Lol Its funny very scripted game, seems they're playing for nothing like a free match ..." No rebounds no serious shots" what the heck is that? in NBA actually sometimes i see that they are doing the same scene during ALLSTAR game which they got bored sometimes but when they released the ball it always get in in the basket.. But this kind of gamplay seems very disappointing.. Its like someone forcing them to play basketball.. if this always happened in such game/event.. Perhaps watching cartoons is a good idea. Lmao

[bisdak40]

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

That's one positive thing with this scandal. The organizers were quick to noticed that the game was rigged or this something fishy about it. I may say that whoever had the intention of rigging the games did not succeed as the game was stopped.

As what i've said in my previous post (other thread), only one team knows that the game were to be rigged and the other just poorly handled the situation but still they are liable for their actions. Rigged games were supposed not to be played that way, very obvious and even the not so fan of basketball can notice the anomalies.

[Cling18]

I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money. Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

[hahay]

I have been aware of this for a long time, because it has even happened several times and it has been proven that there was fraud in the match. Therefore the government has a special team to deal with things like this, but for me a sports gambler at least to anticipate this I only bet on the big leagues in each country, because only then at least cheating in sports can be minimized. Although indeed, there are still no guarantees associated with this case and I realize it is a risk.

[RealMalatesta]

The manipulation can happen in that game, and while we are still at the pandemic, not many people will watch the match so that they can do that.

You mean when more number of people will be watching and when first level of people will be playing then there will be the less chances for manipulation? I don't think so. Even international players are getting corrupted these days hence fixed matches can happen at any level these days.

in order to have a deterrent effect, a very severe punishment must be given.

I guess there should be enough laws against match fixing at all counties and for all sports but they might seek conclusive evidence rather than one time incident of under-performance.

[crwth]

Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

[carlisle1]

I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money.

When in terms of money, everything is possible.  It's no longer a question as there are many participants who rides with this

kind of annoying business, fixed game is a big venue for those players and gamblers, money are flowing around as we knew it.

Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

I agree! those players should avoid playing anymore, they should stop and live a life away from this sports. They are annoying and they'll just
continue messing it up if given a chance.

[Silberman]

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

[Viscore]

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

It's still unacceptable to rig the game due to their personal problem, they have had reported it to the authorities so they will be help, not putting the reputation of the game in a bad line, just unacceptable. I'm sure the investigation is already on going, so let's just wait for the result and speculate less.

[hulla]

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.

Of course they will be reward and gain more trust around the world.

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

That's one positive thing with this scandal. The organizers were quick to noticed that the game was rigged or this something fishy about it. I may say that whoever had the intention of rigging the games did not succeed as the game was stopped.

As what i've said in my previous post (other thread), only one team knows that the game were to be rigged and the other just poorly handled the situation but still they are liable for their actions. Rigged games were supposed not to be played that way, very obvious and even the not so fan of basketball can notice the anomalies.

Yes, the game organizers did a wonderful job by spotting out that something is wrong somewhere about the game but the people that rigged the game are a gambler, they have already succeeded because in the gambling world some people bet on the activities they believe will happen in the first half of the game.

I think the reason why they play an obvious rigg game is because the people in charge of the game rigging are the one control the game.

[Hamphser]

Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

What else they come up with? Of course that would be money nothing else and i agree that Greed is the primary reason on why players and management itself
do agree on rigging up the game like that without even trying to look up themselves that its way too obvious.

Looks like that children were playing and those kind of moves are totally shit and even my son could do it.I cant afford to look even up more into the game.

This looks a practice game than on an actual serious professional game.

[fiulpro]

In my country it's punishable and players are also banner , like some literally forever. What these people did was honestly wrong but we have to understand the fact that the real people behind this is not these teams but rather big whales who lure in underpaid players. Since this is a basketball team honestly they are not paid but in that country and the recognition is also a little lost for them. Therefore they were just going with the flow and trying to make some extra money during the pandemic. I do think that this matter should be deeply inspected , and the punishment should not only be given to the players but also the big whales betting on this event also. Plus they made it too obvious. That was indeed a big fail. This is very wrong. I am sure that many of the people involved in this are also the officials who are in charge of maintenance of everything there.

[CarnagexD]

Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

[germsite]

I've heard about this news before and it was really disappointing that there are people who will do things like that just for the sake of money.

When in terms of money, everything is possible.  It's no longer a question as there are many participants who rides with this

kind of annoying business, fixed game is a big venue for those players and gamblers, money are flowing around as we knew it.

Those people shouldn't involve themselves in sports anymore because they aren't playing fairly which is disrespectful for society and the basketball community.

I agree! those players should avoid playing anymore, they should stop and live a life away from this sports. They are annoying and they'll just
continue messing it up if given a chance.

Honestly, there is no way around it. If you look at how many games you can bet on, unknown sports and unknown leagues, now even online with cryptocurrency, I am damn sure that there is so much fraud going on all over the place.

It is impossible to control for everything in my opinion. Now with cryptocurrencies, even more impossible than impossible.

If somebody is caught I think the penalty should extremely high, maybe exclusion from sports for years.

[LogitechMouse]

Greed is all I can say with that. Mostly, people who take advantage of that are the ones who are in charge of officiating it as well. It sucks but it does happen and it's not gonna stop for any kind of sport anytime soon. When humans are desperate enough and worship money enough, they would do those despicable things that would probably disrespect of people involved.

No one can put a stop to this but themselves. Learning that it's not right is the way but who knows what else they have come up with.

We might apply here the quote "The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer". These rich people are greedy and they will use everything just to have more money and in this case, its the players who are being used. Officiating officials might be involved here but the ones to blame here are the higher people. They are just destroying the reputation of the sport. Will this thing stop in the future? I don't think so especially when they see that they are getting money into it.

Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

I just saw a few clips too in one of the basketball youtubers that I always watch and its pretty darn obvious that this game is fixed. Fastbreaks that doesn't go in, player shooting just a few feet from the rim and yet it went airball, free throws that are just touching the board, spending shot clock and ending up being a turnover and many more.

I don't expect that game fixing will no be there soon but I hope that the management will do something about this even though this will be a hard task for them so solve.

[Fredomago]

Saw this yesterday. From the clips alone you can definitely tell that there's something fishy going on, constantly missing shots, dribbling like you're a belligerent drunk, letting someone take the ball, it's like watching slimes play basketball because of how lame and limpy they all play. A good thing that the committee saw that the game was cancelled, and hopefully an intensive investigation is conducted to find out who the perpetrator of this fixing is.

Such observations are even those who really not playing that well with this game can define which is which, by the way this players are doing it.
An obvious one no doubts is indeed a fixed game that been showcase from that game, those responsible including the coaches are liable

They know it, in case giving them a benefits of doubt, they should adjus right away not to allow this messed to continue, they've got the reputations if not the best pro but giving that chance to play to something big league like this, where a lots of inspiring players are aiming to get the post, this big mistake will forever remember.

[kotajikikox]

I Personally Known a  Philippine Basketball Association Player that admits being part of this kind of rigging and that is happening more than 8 years ago.

Meaning if this Syndicate is in the system for long time , No wonder how large the operation is and how many Victims had already suffered from their Game fixing activities?

BS system that allows this to happen that long , meaning there are even officials that participating in this kind.

[electronicash]

so many mistakes in the game from turnovers to shot not hitting the rim. doesn't look pro. i watch these teams all the time but i never really think that they could rigg matches since Filipinos are proud when they see themselves on tv contributing to the team's success.

i don't know if it's really rigged but if it is then the players are not at fault really, they are probably forced to participate because of the people behind the gamble.

[Lorence.xD]

I Personally Known a  Philippine Basketball Association Player that admits being part of this kind of rigging and that is happening more than 8 years ago.

Meaning if this Syndicate is in the system for long time , No wonder how large the operation is and how many Victims had already suffered from their Game fixing activities?

BS system that allows this to happen that long , meaning there are even officials that participating in this kind.

I have heard about this story, a lot of players were suspended for this rigging, AFAIK there is still this kind of syndicate in the leagues, they are just more careful with their moves now. Game fixing is a big business in my country and I wouldn't be surprised if there are more people that is involved in the rigging.

[passwordnow]

i don't know if it's really rigged but if it is then the players are not at fault really, they are probably forced to participate because of the people behind the gamble.

There really are matches that are rigged in sports especially in unpopular tournaments but they are being listed in sports books. The players are at fault on this.
They should be the one to be blamed and they deserve punishment. The acts were obvious if you're going to watch it on the video that's posted by the OP. They're not forced to do it but it's their choice to participate to sell the game.

[yazher]

It's obviously the team that wanted to lose the game is not use to throw like a game like that, in other words, it's not their field to cheat in the court but maybe they are just forced to do those things because the higher authority has told them to do so and as we can see the result is just some obvious kids game that just wanted to throw the ball here and there.

[paxmao]

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.

Blundersssss

[shoreno]

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove.

this isnt the first time that happen but there are simillar cases that i saw in the past so i can say that it do happens often . some arent obvious but in this basketball match its was obvious that they are rigging the game based on how they play  . its not difficult to tell but even the watchers that didnt know how to play that sport can tell if they are just performing bad of there is something wrong going on .

Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.
Blundersssss

its difficult to detect rigging in soccer because its hard to make a goal . it will look that players are playing normally even if they arent and no they arent blunders but they rig the game for a reason

[Betwrong]

~
Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Thanks for sharing! These guys should have made it a bit less obvious, I guess, but, on the other hand, what do we want from them?, they are not movie actors. Obviously, they were told to act like that by their managers, shame on them!, but I wouldn't blame the players themselves. I even think that they could intentionally made it look the way it looked, to draw attention to this shameful game. They obviously didn't enjoy participating in it.

[robelneo]

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.

But on that particular video or game, even if you are thinking that they are not trying to fix the game, it will cross your mind because it is so obvious, it will make you think, why a player that tall with very near the basket will still not convert the shot and on one occasion a player driving to the basket intentionally miss it, it's not that they are having a bad day, even if a player is not in a good condition he can convert a layup because there is no opposition to block him.

[Viscore]

My concern is how often are riggers caught really. Unless they make obvious mistakes, it is very difficult to tell if a player, for example, missed a shot intentionally. It is just not impossible that a player underperforms in a game just because he has a bad day and even if you are suspicious it is very difficult to prove. Soccer is even more difficult in that aspect. Are these blunders? They could be on-purpose.

But on that particular video or game, even if you are thinking that they are not trying to fix the game, it will cross your mind because it is so obvious, it will make you think, why a player that tall with very near the basket will still not convert the shot and on one occasion a player driving to the basket intentionally miss it, it's not that they are having a bad day, even if a player is not in a good condition he can convert a layup because there is no opposition to block him.

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

From what I have heard, the players involved also got suspended which is a good action because if these people do not go unpunished, the culture of rigging in sports will continue, good thing that this is an isolated case but I know that there is a bigger picture behind.

[Lordhermes]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

[stadus]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

Those who are responsible will only be punish, not the entire organization or the league, but they'll have a bad reputation. Actually it's wise if the refs were the ones rigging the game, not the players as its too obvious. We have a lot of conspiracy theory in NBA too, but it was never proven that rigging happened.

[Fortify]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Wow, that is shockingly bad play from the green team, they didn't show much action from the yellow team - is that because they never got control of the ball? If this is the standard of major league basketball in the Philippines then there is clearly some cheating going on. Was there ever any follow up actions by the PBA because it would seem to put the whole league into question? It's bordering on criminal considering the amount of money that will be at stake during such sports, you'd think the government might even step in to take action at that point. The weak shot at 56 seconds in might be acceptable once in a whole game, but they consistently threw off target.

[TimeTeller]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

Those who are responsible will only be punish, not the entire organization or the league, but they'll have a bad reputation. Actually it's wise if the refs were the ones rigging the game, not the players as its too obvious. We have a lot of conspiracy theory in NBA too, but it was never proven that rigging happened.

If there was any rigging in NBA, they know how to be discreet.
But this one, was very obvious. They just signed their soon-to-be-end of career, if the basketball association will be strict about it.
I don't know what they are thinking here. But what they did was really a disappointment.
I know they worked hard to be in that league but they jeopardized it all in that game. Sadly.

[7788bitcoin]

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

If the match was fixed then they should get a life time ban as it is not just disrespect to the fans spending their time thinking it is a fair game and then getting cheated and the millions waged on matches.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Match fixing is not new and it is going on for decades and we only hear about these when some high profile players are caught in some sting operation and rarely we dissect matches and think that they could be fixed. I have lost a lot of money to unexpected upsets in the past one year, some of the matches i felt fishy but we have no authority to know those.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Match fixing is possible but what i do not agree is that these fixed matches will be sold online and if anyone says that to you that they have hundred percent fixed matches then they are lying.

[Fredomago]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

It's an insult as majorities from those who watch this videos are annoyed with this obvious fixed game activities. Professionals who loves this sport are really showing their disappointment even those who are in the other league express how bad the image of this sport is being compromised.

Without appropriate action those who are still supporting fixed gaming will continue doing their stuff, there's should be more strict laws that will implement to lessen this if the possibilities of completely dissolving this kind activities can't be done.

[bisdak40]

Actually sports rigging is really happening, not only in the Philippines, this one is just so obvious, they brought the rigging into the next level that anyone watching the game would notice. They did not even benfit from this fight because AFAIK, the game was stopped.

I have never think Philippines could do such in their professional basketball, it's really obvious what they did and it's an insult to philipines citizens and international basketball federation as well. This incidence can actually result to penalty by the federation in charge of basketball as this will eventually repeat itself if proper punishment is not taken. Just saying.

This could happen anywhere in the world and the Philippines is not exempted with this kind of scandal and in fact this is not the first that this happen in the Philippines though this one is too obvious.

MPBL, which is own by Manny Pacquiao has it's own share of rigging too but that one is not too obvious and but still they are investigated and DOJ will be filing complaints against those who are involved.

I have talked to the brother of the one involved (happen to be my third cousin), they have the denied the accusation and said that as far as they are concern (Lapu-Lapu team), there was no rigging and what happened was just the result of the opponents not willing to score and they felt offended by that. If they knew that it was rigged then they would not do such bad acting as it's too obvious that everybody will notice that something fishy is happening.

[blockman]

From what I have heard, the players involved also got suspended which is a good action because if these people do not go unpunished, the culture of rigging in sports will continue, good thing that this is an isolated case but I know that there is a bigger picture behind.

They should really be punished. Because if they won't be punished, they'll just do it again and they're confident that they can put the league's policy into their hands.
But they got it wrong and they have to respect the league and it's their bread and butter that many are dreaming to be part and they're lucky to be with it and they shouldn't waste it.

[bitterguy28]

So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.

[Reatim]

First I respect the referee for stopping the game after the first half but no matter the reason behind the obvious rigging of the basket ball game both the team involved and their officials absolutely disrespected the game of basket ball, they should be penalized and the big fish behind it.

They must be salute and Give rewards because they are the reason why this case being broadcasted and surely will be the basis of the investigation from now on.

Of course they will be reward and gain more trust around the world.

Yups this is the real Hero of the Basketball and all sports league , all of the sports maybe facing the same thing (THough many has not been broadcasted  and alarmed ) but the thing is Referees must be the one to be awarded and be given a attention because nothing than everyone is they knew the game and they knew if there is something fishy happening in each games.

[Ucy]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

[bisdak40]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

Video clip below is attached in the OP, kindly take a look at that and you will realized that it does not need an expert or skilled observer to noticed that there is something wrong going on. The organizers don't mind if online betting bookies are covering their games as long as it is played honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwma0Qs2-ck

[michellee]

So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.

I think we still do not know for sure and we guess on that. If that issue is real, I am sure some people will hide that from the media and not let the public know. It could happen in many countries as we know that greedy people will be in all countries. That will be a hard job for clean officers to investigate the case and they need some time to reveal the right case. I am sure they will do the right thing to clean the mess and they will not let the rigging happen in many sports.

[blockman]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.

[milewilda]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.

Referees doesnt need to predict because they are the ones who can directly tell if that gameplay is shit/intentional or just purely unlucky.We arent blind on not to notice things up
specially if its an obvious one.There no need on telling on whose the one who had been able to notice it out but rather all the community no matter what positions they do have
until the very bottom where fans can even tell on their own basing on what they are currently seeing.Rigging games on small leagues are bit common
but this one is just way too obvious.

[harizen]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Honestly, it's always happened in local small leagues so it wasn't new to everyone's vocabulary. Since it's not broadcasted in local news, it doesn't come to public attention much. Even the yearly league starting from mosquito to senior division at each barangays always has flaws and there's nothing we can do about that.

As for the thread's subject, I don't know what on earth they are doing as it's obvious that they are in one of the professional leagues in the country, and games are recorded and televised but still push their act to rig the game. Penalties are already handed but I'm one of those who don't agree that those enough. That was highly illegal to the point that the law related to it was amended several times IIRC.

[blockman]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed? I expect a skilled observer to compare each team/player past performance and their performances in the match in order to have some idea whether they cheated or not. They also need to know the betting site where such bet is alleged to have taken place... I'd guess lot more people will bet or money will be staked on the team the betting site's customers are expecting to win/lose. In regards to bribing a team/player , it's possible that one team or some players are paid to lose or play poorly.   So, they could somehow determine this by comparing the  past performances of players who played suspiciously in the match.

Even the announcers have thought that those free throws were just unlucky shots and not intentionally shot to miss. It wasn't the referees that have predicted that this match was rigged.
But it was the upper ops, the officials of the league, and the organization for basketball for the country that have a verdict that the match was rigged.

Referees doesnt need to predict because they are the ones who can directly tell if that gameplay is shit/intentional or just purely unlucky.We arent blind on not to notice things up
specially if its an obvious one.There no need on telling on whose the one who had been able to notice it out but rather all the community no matter what positions they do have
until the very bottom where fans can even tell on their own basing on what they are currently seeing.Rigging games on small leagues are bit common
but this one is just way too obvious.

Everyone has noticed that not only the referees but even in the bare eyes of the fans, it's obvious that they're playing useless with those free throws.
Looks like those players are like kids that don't have enough stamina and note that they're well trained and paid for playing.

[goinmerry]

I wonder what convinced the referee and others that the match was fixed?

No need for much professional look on this as even a grade school kid won't buy those intentional and obvious rigged plays.

Try to watch a video for satisfaction. VisMin Cup is a professional basketball league in the Philippines and it's not easy to be drafted at these leagues so you shouldn't see players having unusual worst plays. They are even much worst compared to players from street bastketball who do anything just to win a reward of 1 ice water or 1L of softdrinks as an example.

[chaser15]

So this means the issue i have read in the past thread here about NBA having this same issue is true? Yeah this was from Philippines and Asia so even in Europe and America and even all the continental basketball has this rigging issue?

I am starting to Hate basketball now because of this case and the respect from the league and official is starting to fail now.

It was common, even at any sports. What's the big deal in terms of feeling towards the sports? Almost all sports have a rigged history.

If you are hating basketball just because of that then I think you are just a passerby at that sports and not really watching or following it.

[Rabi3]

this is what a low quality rigged match looks like, i believe that a lot of sports and even professionnel teams and athletes rig some matches, and we probably saw it live and we were like "how did he miss something like that ?" when it actually was intentional, i actually thought that WWE fights were real when i was young, and i know a lot of people who were arguing whether it was real or they just follow scenario, if they didn't Exaggerate in their fights and scenarios, people would not find out that it's fake, and they would only have some doubts.

[Xinarae*]

In the case of sports and professional teams the basic principle that these national organizations conduct their activities for the purpose of sports betting is quite simple. A person is sure of some outcome of an event and decides to place a bet, after which he pays and receives a receipt if he wins he goes back to the book and accepts his victories no matter how much we are inclined towards sports or otherwise whatever we are we cannot escape the top influence of the sports world. Every country has a sport for which they are best known be it baseball basketball football or hockey many miss their matches for cheating.

[nitrobetting]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

[pilosopotasyo]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

I wonder what's going on in their minds they are trying to rig or fix the game but they make it appear they are, they should have practiced before playing like they do in WWE wrestling where the games are fixed but the audiences do not know what will become the outcome of the match, obviously they are not good in fixing a game and because of this, they are going to face penalties or even ban.

[Betwrong]

this is what a low quality rigged match looks like, i believe that a lot of sports and even professionnel teams and athletes rig some matches, and we probably saw it live and we were like "how did he miss something like that ?" when it actually was intentional, i actually thought that WWE fights were real when i was young, and i know a lot of people who were arguing whether it was real or they just follow scenario, if they didn't Exaggerate in their fights and scenarios, people would not find out that it's fake, and they would only have some doubts.

That's why we've got to give credit to the players from OP's video. Those were told by their manager what outcome of the game should be, but they weren't trying to make it look real. After re-watching the video, I even think they wanted it to look fake.

[btc78]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball,

Dont be generalized because the whole Basketball Game does not stand for this rigging, remember that there are still good players and officials that surely against this case.

but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team.

I think they don't deserve the win and instead DRAW must be declare in this game.

I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA.

Actually before this asian case , NBA is the first to have an expose issue of rigging.

Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

This Gives tons of Money so what can we expect to the corrupt people .

[AicecreaME]

When it's about money, there is nothing surprising anymore, especially rigged games just like what you have mentioned. In this time of pandemic, many people are just being practical because they have families to feed, you can't blame them though, however, they cannot hide the fact that it is indeed a shameful act as an athlete and as a professional basketball team.

Even in other sports, this kind of scripted play is happening, but others are just good actors that's why no one noticed that their match was rigged unless they are going to confess it to the public.

[michellee]

When it's about money, there is nothing surprising anymore, especially rigged games just like what you have mentioned. In this time of pandemic, many people are just being practical because they have families to feed, you can't blame them though, however, they cannot hide the fact that it is indeed a shameful act as an athlete and as a professional basketball team.

Even in other sports, this kind of scripted play is happening, but others are just good actors that's why no one noticed that their match was rigged unless they are going to confess it to the public.

Yes, it is right. People now suffer to search for how to make money, including people who are rigging the sports game. But I think they do not have to do that because that will make their name will bad in the sports activity. And if their name becomes bad, I do not think that they will not be asked to help the sports event. They need to think about that because that will impact their career. If they think that they can not get caught this time, someday, they will get caught and they can not do anything.

I guess they will not confess to the public because that is dirty work with the others. So that can almost impossible for them to admit in public unless they are getting caught.

[acroman08]

there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420

[Hypnosis00]

there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

[Pamadar]

there's an update regarding the rules on the VisMin Cup that forces the teams to surrender their phones before the games to the technical group of VisMin Cup with the coordination of the PNP officials(Philippine National Police). this was their solution to prevent or deter any future game-fixing in the game.

also, I am glad that VisMin Cup organizers have decided to ban the members of siquijor team and a suspension and penalties to the players of Lapu-Lapu team.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/vismin-cup-orders-teams-to-surrender-mobile-phones-before-games-a795-20210420

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

They can simply deal with their plans much earlier and not to deal with it during the live events.

I mean there's nothing to happen even the league organizers will confiscate players and staffs CP, everything can be done prior and just like what you are saying, those players or whoever behind this game fixing activities are smart enough to find ways to continue their illegal business.

[acroman08]

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed. but it was their decision, maybe it's just a first step or its just for a show just to say that they are doing something to prevent game-fixing but I'd assume that they'll add more rules that would make more sense as they talk even further about how to prevent these kinds of game-fixing in the future. what I did like though is that they have permanently banned players and given punishments to those who are involved in this issue.

[blockman]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.

[Silberman]

Oasisman, is there a possibility that the players (at least some of them) were infected with Covid-19, are there any pre-match tests? If they weren't sick, then this is more than an obvious set-up, and considering how hard they tried to miss clear opportunities, it seems to me that the goal was to finish the game with as few points as possible.

It’s just not clear to me how professional players ever agree to do something like this because they put their whole career at stake - and no one can not get rich from one game. However, I would add that sometimes players are blackmailed into playing badly or doing a specific thing in a game (get a red card in football) - and if someone kidnaps a family member, I believe most players would do anything to bring him back.

This is why there needs to be an investigation about this, if they were sick then this could explain their bad performance, and if it was the case that some of the family members of the players were kidnapped or there was the threat of physical harm against them and their family then it is understandable why this happened, however if an investigation finds out that the players were bribed and that they accepted it then they need to be banned for live from the sport.

It's still unacceptable to rig the game due to their personal problem, they have had reported it to the authorities so they will be help, not putting the reputation of the game in a bad line, just unacceptable. I'm sure the investigation is already on going, so let's just wait for the result and speculate less.

I did not say that under those circumstances their behaviour was acceptable but understandable, which is a big difference, also we must remember there are many countries in which organized crime and the police are one and the same, which is why many people when they are a victim of a crime they do not go to the police as most likely there are members of that criminal organization on the police and you are just becoming an even bigger target by going to the police.

[LTU_btc]

If we already talking about fixed games, I can share recent case which happened just few days ago in my country. Look at this goal:
https://m.facebook.com/KrasnickasMantas/videos/3932323906788812/
It's just ridiculous. And there is many reasons to believe that game was fixed. First, live stream of game started only from 23rd minute, after 3 goals were already scored. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Both teams previously already been involved in fixed games. Home team were not allowed to join top division this year because of it, same happened to away team few years ago.
Away team manager already was banned in past for 2 years for allegations being involved in fixed games.
Before the game I saw post in one group suggesting to bet on over 4.5 goals. I thought it was joke, but game ended 3:2. I haven't saw odds before game, but I read comments saying that it didn't reflected real strength of both teams.
IMO, it was one of the most obvious example of fixed game in recent time I saw.

[Oilacris]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.

There are issues on NBA too about being rigged on some games which are bit obvious but this isnt as rampant compared into those minor leagues that do happen because if we do

really think off about the possibilities then its there but it wont really be that common or that be too obvious.So i would be skipping out on NBA but rather sticking into those

professional games just like on that video given which those gameplays are purely shit and damn obvious.

[harizen]

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed.

Did you guys just focus on the headline title and not just reading the content? Tell me where's the part that they treat is a "as a solution"?

It's just for limiting contacts outside during the game. They are in the BUBBLE if you guys are not aware. There's no way these players can deal with a pre-plan fixing especially if the other team is not aware of the rigged, especially for handicap betting. If ever there will be a rigged, it should be in live progress.

And also try to read the content about the suspensions and penalties made, and not just the surrender of the phone thing. With that suspensions, I doubt some will take part again in that shitty activity.

[acroman08]

Surrender the phone? what for?

I did not like the solution, it seems its not hitting the real problem here, these players who are into sports rigging are not stupid, now that they know the rules, they can still find a ways to rig games, some already have a plan on how to rig before the start of the game.

I didn't too, it was a shitty solution that can be easily bypassed.

Did you guys just focus on the headline title and not just reading the content? Tell me where's the part that they treat is a "as a solution"?

It's just for limiting contacts outside during the game. They are in the BUBBLE if you guys are not aware. There's no way these players can deal with a pre-plan fixing especially if the other team is not aware of the rigged, especially for handicap betting. If ever there will be a rigged, it should be in live progress.

And also try to read the content about the suspensions and penalties made, and not just the surrender of the phone thing. With that suspensions, I doubt some will take part again in that shitty activity.

I did read the article and just Like what said, it could be just a first step of a more effective rule as they discuss the scandal further. I mentioned the lifetime banning of the siquijor team and penalties and suspensions to the number of members of the Lapu-Lapu team which I like.

I forgot to add that the phones will only be confiscated before the start of the game.

[blockman]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.

There are issues on NBA too about being rigged on some games which are bit obvious but this isnt as rampant compared into those minor leagues that do happen because if we do

really think off about the possibilities then its there but it wont really be that common or that be too obvious.So i would be skipping out on NBA but rather sticking into those

professional games just like on that video given which those gameplays are purely shit and damn obvious.

In minor leagues, they're really rampant because the attention that they get is unlike the popular and big conferences and leagues worldwide or even in the local leagues.
What's sad and triggering is that even after watching the obvious video, they're denying it and putting the blame into the others not themselves.

[Oasisman]

If we already talking about fixed games, I can share recent case which happened just few days ago in my country. Look at this goal:
https://m.facebook.com/KrasnickasMantas/videos/3932323906788812/
It's just ridiculous. And there is many reasons to believe that game was fixed. First, live stream of game started only from 23rd minute, after 3 goals were already scored. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Both teams previously already been involved in fixed games. Home team were not allowed to join top division this year because of it, same happened to away team few years ago.
Away team manager already was banned in past for 2 years for allegations being involved in fixed games.
Before the game I saw post in one group suggesting to bet on over 4.5 goals. I thought it was joke, but game ended 3:2. I haven't saw odds before game, but I read comments saying that it didn't reflected real strength of both teams.
IMO, it was one of the most obvious example of fixed game in recent time I saw.

Which country was that?
I've been playing football when I was in highschool and all I can say about the video was, it's either the goal keeper was dumb, or a huge possiblity for a fixed game.
I know some basic rules in football. The goal keeper could've easily picked it up after the opponent kicks the ball towards him, but he did let the ball slip off his feet and let the opponent steal it from him and score a goal.

I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

[chaser15]

Jojo Tangkay, one of my favorite players since PBL to PBA days was also part of that rigged game.

Can't believed he participated in that. Even he's no choice, he can voice out that in the public or seeks help on authorities to keep him safe from those rigged initiators. He's lucky that at 46 years old he still allowed to play.

Close to retirement now but give dirt to his famous name.

[Vaculin]

Jojo Tangkay, one of my favorite players since PBL to PBA days was also part of that rigged game.

I'm not familiar with his name, what team is he playing in the PBA and did he won a championship back then?

Can't believed he participated in that. Even he's no choice, he can voice out that in the public or seeks help on authorities to keep him safe from those rigged initiators. He's lucky that at 46 years old he still allowed to play.

Close to retirement now but give dirt to his famous name.

So it's really true that they are just force to do the rigging? or this is just rumors?

[LTU_btc]

Which country was that?
I've been playing football when I was in highschool and all I can say about the video was, it's either the goal keeper was dumb, or a huge possiblity for a fixed game.
I know some basic rules in football. The goal keeper could've easily picked it up after the opponent kicks the ball towards him, but he did let the ball slip off his feet and let the opponent steal it from him and score a goal.

I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

It's 2nd division of Lithuania. It's very dirty league, every season there is at least 3-4 suspicious teams playing which often have strange results. It's nothing suprising that players get involved in match fixing. Here they get very little money, probably not more than going into ordinary job. So, they earn extra money in such way.
It's difficult and risky to bet on such games without having inside info. But still, it's possible to make some money if you follow results of teams and what's going on in odds market before the game and during live game.

[Fredomago]

100% disrespect to the game of basketball, but an advantage for those who bet on the winning team. I think this happens a lot but more subtle in the pros or perhaps in the NBA. Not a team as a whole, but in the NBA remember when James Harden disappeared vs. the Spurs? A lot of factors can be considered
but a massive shift and obvious display of lack of effort isn't so hard to miss in this kind of sport.

Not in the NBA anymore I think. But maybe yes, in the past that there were some isolated cases that have happened through it but it's different by this time.
There's really big money in basketball that makes these players agree what they don't want to do. They deserve the sanction and ban.

There are issues on NBA too about being rigged on some games which are bit obvious but this isnt as rampant compared into those minor leagues that do happen because if we do

really think off about the possibilities then its there but it wont really be that common or that be too obvious.So i would be skipping out on NBA but rather sticking into those

professional games just like on that video given which those gameplays are purely shit and damn obvious.

NBA is big but not exempted to this kind of activities but like what you have said it hard to touch that concern and it's better to
focus to what we are discussing from here.

Those provided sunctions for now is good and appropriate banning the entire team who really execute the obvious rigged and
suspending the other side will serve as warning.

For now, those teams and players who are planning to do the same will think twice knowing the stake that they'll going to face if
they'll caught in actions.

[dunfida]

Which country was that?
I've been playing football when I was in highschool and all I can say about the video was, it's either the goal keeper was dumb, or a huge possiblity for a fixed game.
I know some basic rules in football. The goal keeper could've easily picked it up after the opponent kicks the ball towards him, but he did let the ball slip off his feet and let the opponent steal it from him and score a goal.

I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

It's 2nd division of Lithuania. It's very dirty league, every season there is at least 3-4 suspicious teams playing which often have strange results. It's nothing suprising that players get involved in match fixing. Here they get very little money, probably not more than going into ordinary job. So, they earn extra money in such way.
It's difficult and risky to bet on such games without having inside info. But still, it's possible to make some money if you follow results of teams and what's going on in odds market before the game and during live game.

Hard part on making out bets specially if the players are already directly involved on such fixing.Solely the reason on why they do agree on such set-up is really up for the money.
They dont care out that much since they would really be getting some amounts which are more than that they could able generate on so it isnt surprising that
rigged games does exist neither the team or players itself are involved or not.This is one of the reason on why i dont make any bets on smaller league.

[blockman]

Jojo Tangkay, one of my favorite players since PBL to PBA days was also part of that rigged game.

Can't believed he participated in that. Even he's no choice, he can voice out that in the public or seeks help on authorities to keep him safe from those rigged initiators. He's lucky that at 46 years old he still allowed to play.

Close to retirement now but give dirt to his famous name.

I don't know him but yeah, usually at that age, in PBA that's already in retirement and can no longer play. But with what he has done, before he retires, there's already a bad description to his name whether he's going to retire soon or not yet.
He should've put himself into a clear conscience and explain what has happened and what made him involved in that incident.

[agustina2]

I don't know him but yeah, usually at that age, in PBA that's already in retirement and can no longer play. But with what he has done, before he retires, there's already a bad description to his name whether he's going to retire soon or not yet.
He should've put himself into a clear conscience and explain what has happened and what made him involved in that incident.

If I remember it right he's with the same league with Marc Pingris on Welcoat Team. A high flyer guy. They are popular before being drafted in the PBA so the hype about them is already there when they finally enter the oldest basketball league in Asia. I didn't even know that he's still active in basketball today and just saw his name on the news being involved on that rigged games.

Rain or Shine owner saddened by former player Jojo Tangkay's suspension

[Kasabus]

I don't know him but yeah, usually at that age, in PBA that's already in retirement and can no longer play. But with what he has done, before he retires, there's already a bad description to his name whether he's going to retire soon or not yet.
He should've put himself into a clear conscience and explain what has happened and what made him involved in that incident.

If I remember it right he's with the same league with Marc Pingris on Welcoat Team. A high flyer guy. They are popular before being drafted in the PBA so the hype about them is already there when they finally enter the oldest basketball league in Asia. I didn't even know that he's still active in basketball today and just saw his name on the news being involved on that rigged games.

Rain or Shine owner saddened by former player Jojo Tangkay's suspension

At least these guys are already expose now, it will affect the league or the entire sports but at least the management and the basketball association are doing to eliminate this kind of people in the league, they ruined the reputation of our league, they should be sanctioned with the biggest punishment.

[Rengga Jati]

Again? Betting for a sport? Well, it always happens in local clubs or even global teams that where there are betting, the sports cannot play or run well.
This is a classic problem that is still happening in most clubs in whatever sports.
We all know that probably the people who are betting on sports may also deal with the big influence to the sports itself, however, we cannot see that because we may not have enough proof.

However about or related to this case, it seems that if there is really an obvious rigging of sports, it means that there is no sportive or fair play again. but it is about money.

[Betwrong]

~
I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

Talking about fixed games around the world in general, I wouldn't say that we have more fixed games today than we used to have in the past. Actually, I think it's the opposite: with cameras in everyone's pocket and with the ability of uploading videos on YouTube right away, performing a fraud is becoming harder and harder these days. There were tons of fixed games in the past, we just don't have records of them.

[Natalim]

~
I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

Talking about fixed games around the world in general, I wouldn't say that we have more fixed games today than we used to have in the past. Actually, I think it's the opposite: with cameras in everyone's pocket and with the ability of uploading videos on YouTube right away, performing a fraud is becoming harder and harder these days. There were tons of fixed games in the past, we just don't have records of them.

I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.

@Betwrong , you are right, there's a lot of video in youtube and I like watching all the conspiracy theories as its quite convincing to me.

[fortunecrypto]

Jojo Tangkay, one of my favorite players since PBL to PBA days was also part of that rigged game.

Can't believed he participated in that. Even he's no choice, he can voice out that in the public or seeks help on authorities to keep him safe from those rigged initiators. He's lucky that at 46 years old he still allowed to play.

Close to retirement now but give dirt to his famous name.

He earned two MVP awards in the PBL and was its star player back then although he did not have a good experience in the PBA he can be considered a top amateur player, all the awards and good reputation he earned in his younger days will go to nothing if the authorities found him guilty or part of rigging the game, he really needs money that he allowed himself to be part of rigging the game.

[blockman]

I don't know him but yeah, usually at that age, in PBA that's already in retirement and can no longer play. But with what he has done, before he retires, there's already a bad description to his name whether he's going to retire soon or not yet.
He should've put himself into a clear conscience and explain what has happened and what made him involved in that incident.

If I remember it right he's with the same league with Marc Pingris on Welcoat Team. A high flyer guy. They are popular before being drafted in the PBA so the hype about them is already there when they finally enter the oldest basketball league in Asia. I didn't even know that he's still active in basketball today and just saw his name on the news being involved on that rigged games.

Rain or Shine owner saddened by former player Jojo Tangkay's suspension

It was his choice to get involved in this controversy. He's already a veteran and he should choose better for his career. But he chose the wrong one and chose to be involved with this incident.

At least these guys are already expose now, it will affect the league or the entire sports but at least the management and the basketball association are doing to eliminate this kind of people in the league, they ruined the reputation of our league, they should be sanctioned with the biggest punishment.

The management really have to do their thing upon finding out that such things are happening.

[KTChampions]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

[dunfida]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

Theyre much aware of it rather than making out rigged games and once bust then that would be completely over neither they would really be sanctioned for too long or would
completely be prohibited to have some games so those were the risk rather than on not to deal with these things which they can really somewhat foreseen on whats ahead
that they would still make money out of those fair games than on making rigged ones.This isnt something new into this industry of sports where
there are really some games which had been set-up on this way and of course it does involved money in between.

[Silberman]

If we already talking about fixed games, I can share recent case which happened just few days ago in my country. Look at this goal:
https://m.facebook.com/KrasnickasMantas/videos/3932323906788812/
It's just ridiculous. And there is many reasons to believe that game was fixed. First, live stream of game started only from 23rd minute, after 3 goals were already scored. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Both teams previously already been involved in fixed games. Home team were not allowed to join top division this year because of it, same happened to away team few years ago.
Away team manager already was banned in past for 2 years for allegations being involved in fixed games.
Before the game I saw post in one group suggesting to bet on over 4.5 goals. I thought it was joke, but game ended 3:2. I haven't saw odds before game, but I read comments saying that it didn't reflected real strength of both teams.
IMO, it was one of the most obvious example of fixed game in recent time I saw.

It is such a shame that this keeps happening, it seems they do not understand why people watch sports at all and why cheating is seen in such a bad light, we want to see competitors doing everything within the rules to win and if they do not and instead they try to lose or get a particular outcome then all the magic of the sport is gone, and when that is the case then why I should waste my time watching them? And as many people take the same decision then they wonder why no one views their games anymore.

[Viscore]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

Obviously, it will, however, it's only the players who are doing the fixing and not the league supporting it, the more the league gets popular, the more the market will be bigger and they can make bigger money from rigging their game, point-shaving is very popular, IMO, this is the safest way of rigging than intentionally losing the game for the benefit of the players rigging the game.

[Betwrong]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

[Oasisman]

~
I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

Talking about fixed games around the world in general, I wouldn't say that we have more fixed games today than we used to have in the past. Actually, I think it's the opposite: with cameras in everyone's pocket and with the ability of uploading videos on YouTube right away, performing a fraud is becoming harder and harder these days. There were tons of fixed games in the past, we just don't have records of them.

You have a very good point and I agree. I may have overlooked upon those possibilities, what I meant is that, when sports was supposed to be more of an entertainment than a business.
We all know people gets so creative and thinks a lot of crazy stuff on how to earn more money from a specific business. And so fixed games did exist even before up until now. Some of these fixed games of todays may never be very obvious and not really noticeable, but this , this specific game right here shows an obvious fixing of game.

[Mahanton]

~
I know how crazy the sports are becoming more of a fraud business nowadays than how sports has being played before.
These athletes deserves a lifetime ban from the game.

Talking about fixed games around the world in general, I wouldn't say that we have more fixed games today than we used to have in the past. Actually, I think it's the opposite: with cameras in everyone's pocket and with the ability of uploading videos on YouTube right away, performing a fraud is becoming harder and harder these days. There were tons of fixed games in the past, we just don't have records of them.

You have a very good point and I agree. I may have overlooked upon those possibilities, what I meant is that, when sports was supposed to be more of an entertainment than a business.
We all know people gets so creative and thinks a lot of crazy stuff on how to earn more money from a specific business. And so fixed games did exist even before up until now. Some of these fixed games of todays may never be very obvious and not really noticeable, but this , this specific game right here shows an obvious fixing of game.

Why those organizations would stick out into that entertainment thing if they could really make some money or business with this industry? There are indeed games
which are rigged but not really that obvious and this is where they do make out some serious money but this one which had been shown in the op is really
something that you cant just ignore because those game play is totally shit and very obvious on not playing too well.
This would be a continuous issue and really cant get rid of it.

[Silberman]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

[Kelvinid]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

[Fatunad]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

[Betwrong]

~
You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

[michellee]

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

Maybe the other leagues that do not have a bigger audience will not find rigging, but we do not know for sure because the public will not see the rigging or corruption. It is hidden from the public but it is real and it is happening without we can see it. Maybe if we want to bet on those sports, we need to search for the other info to find more about the game and maybe we will know if the sports are not rigged.

[Fredomago]

~
You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

The said fear that being created after this exposed will warn everyone who are involve to this kind of illegal activities inside the league. They are being eyed and monitored.

The domino effects will increased the vissibilities, fans and all league officials are eyeing to catch out more people who still dealing with sports rigging.

We will see more and this is not the last of hearing this kind of events inside any sports leauge.

[Fatunad]

~
You wouldnt know unless if the fans or the people whose seeing it would able to notice or simply tells that you can point out that theyre rigged when its happening but if its not then
there's no way that a potential match could really be rigged later on thats why we do make out our conclusions basing on real events or experience.Rigging is already bit known
but only on smaller leagues and cant really much seen on big or higher tiers leagues because they wouldnt risk out on getting caught
because they do know on what would be the consequences next.

True that. And what I like about this situation the most is that we don't have to rely on honesty of those organizations. What we can rely on is the fear of being caught and the high probability of being caught in cheating with the current technologies.

The said fear that being created after this exposed will warn everyone who are involve to this kind of illegal activities inside the league. They are being eyed and monitored.

The domino effects will increased the vissibilities, fans and all league officials are eyeing to catch out more people who still dealing with sports rigging.

We will see more and this is not the last of hearing this kind of events inside any sports leauge.

They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? Or they are just too greedy
and finding other source of income or revenue which is more that they do earn on that typical contracts or some sort.Of course once there's one had already been
busted then expect that they would really be watched and monitored specially if there are recent issues about rigging.Officials would surely be keen on finding
possible next situation that might happen next.

[Silberman]

~I agree with you, in the past a lot of fix games are happening that we don't know because we don't have an advance technology. Now, that we have cameras that we can close up and review how the players perform in the floor, it would be easy to detect if players are rigging games or not.

Maybe we didn't get interested with sports rigging issue that's why we got surprise with this news.
~

I think the decrease in the number of fixing matches is declining not because of progress and improved fixation systems, but because the business is becoming more civilized. Everyone understands that fair play will bring the maximum amount of profit over the long run.

I can't disagree with you on that. Indeed playing fair is profitable in the long run, and civilized people know this fact and don't try to rig the games. However, if we think of why it is profitable, it is because once you've got caught cheating - you are out of the business. And the likelihood of being caught has increased sharply with advanced technologies.

We know that rigging games happens however many people are just as good as society demands from them, if the penalties for rigging games are too small then players will rig games knowing the consequences are small in the case they are caught, and if the league does not have the resources or the interest to investigate this then the chances for rigged games go up, this is why there should not be any kid of tolerance for incidents like this as it only generates more corruption in the sport if it is tolerated.

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

It is a good thing since this brings awareness but it seems that they do not understand how damaging this is for them and the rest of the industries that depends on sports, think about sports bets, people love to bet on sports but they do it under the premise that both teams are looking to win no matter what, when that premise is broken then the odds of the casino are meaningless and now it becomes impossible to try to predict which team will win as one of them is not interested in a positive result at all.

[Betwrong]

~
They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

[Obito]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

[traderethereum]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

[carlisle1]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

They will not feel that as they are ready to any consequence the moment they participate with such kind of activities,.

Those people who engage themselves from rigging games are desperate to earned in a much quicker ways, there are many events that rumors spread

with small and big leagues, but due to the process rumors remain as it is, unlike now where evidence and actions
coming from the organizers really take charges.

[Silberman]

~
They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

[bisdak40]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

I don't think it's fair to accused the VisMin management of corruption without any proof. It you researched and take a backread on the posts above you can see that it's the management that stopped the game as they noticed something was wrong in that game which was very obvious.

I do agree with Betwrong that Honesty has become profitable nowadays and you could see in some casinos that advertises Fairness in their sites to lure costumers.

[blockman]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.

[abel1337]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.

The players just chose to end their career early. I hope those who are asked to rig the game knows that the game they are participating in has a possible underground betting between someone or organizations and it could be pretty big bets giving the fact that the game is getting rigged. Being blinded by money is one of the downfalls of many athletes, Many careers have been thorned because of the involvement of money in a game.

[Fatunad]

~
They should really be careful but honestly why would they really make out rigged games if they can actually make money legally? ~

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

[traderethereum]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

They will not feel that as they are ready to any consequence the moment they participate with such kind of activities,.

Those people who engage themselves from rigging games are desperate to earned in a much quicker ways, there are many events that rumors spread

with small and big leagues, but due to the process rumors remain as it is, unlike now where evidence and actions
coming from the organizers really take charges.

We can not know what they think about corrupting and rigging in sports but if they can realize that what they did is wrong, maybe they will stop doing that as they already got the income from the government.
The desperate will happen to the low-level officers because they really need money, especially in this pandemic so they use the shortcut to earn more money from corruption.
We only hope that the players will not just think about the money and earn more money by doing corruption because that can end their career anytime and not have a chance to become bigger.

[bitterguy28]

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

Maybe the other leagues that do not have a bigger audience will not find rigging, but we do not know for sure because the public will not see the rigging or corruption. It is hidden from the public but it is real and it is happening without we can see it. Maybe if we want to bet on those sports, we need to search for the other info to find more about the game and maybe we will know if the sports are not rigged.

I believe this happens everywhere now because this is a syndicated market and not just a small time system

They are manipulating the whole sports and not some game.

This must be stopped or we will face another loss from every game , we can see that people nowadays are not trusting each and sooner we will lose the market of legitimate sportsbetting .

[michellee]

It's actually good that we discuss rigging games, at least people would be aware that it's happening in any sport and in any location. Once we are all aware of a possible rigging of games, we would not be too confident to follow public opinion especially if we are a bettor. Though it's happening or it happened, we still can't conclude that the sport is corrupt as there are other leagues that are not rigged.

Maybe the other leagues that do not have a bigger audience will not find rigging, but we do not know for sure because the public will not see the rigging or corruption. It is hidden from the public but it is real and it is happening without we can see it. Maybe if we want to bet on those sports, we need to search for the other info to find more about the game and maybe we will know if the sports are not rigged.

I believe this happens everywhere now because this is a syndicated market and not just a small time system

They are manipulating the whole sports and not some game.

This must be stopped or we will face another loss from every game , we can see that people nowadays are not trusting each and sooner we will lose the market of legitimate sportsbetting .

If we talk about the syndicated market, I feel that it is bigger than we can expect because I am sure that is happening for a long time ago without us know. They can do whatever they want, including manipulating the system or the whole sports, but they will act secretly and smoothly without realising it.

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

[blockman]

Those who make a lot of money legally would think twice before rigging a game. That's why only low level games are rigged sometimes nowadays, but rigging high level games doesn't make any sense. Honesty has become profitable, and that's a very good thing.

VisMin Cup and the leage behind it isn't that low level kind of game. It's just that the management is full of corruption, that's why there is a rigging happening. Honesty is profitable but it isn't as profitable as dishonesty and corruption, the money that you get from it is really something.

Not only the management but also some players are choosing to take the risk and rig the game because they've seen money in their front. That's why even if the league isn't that low level, there are some players that have been taken due to greed and thought of the additional money that they shall receive in exchange of their pride and dignity as a professional player.

The players just chose to end their career early. I hope those who are asked to rig the game knows that the game they are participating in has a possible underground betting between someone or organizations and it could be pretty big bets giving the fact that the game is getting rigged. Being blinded by money is one of the downfalls of many athletes, Many careers have been thorned because of the involvement of money in a game.

I think they're aware of that but they can't shut it down easily because those people that are behind it could also be big people that can't easily be taken down.
Too sad for those athletes that have been involved and decided to end their career early just because of their carelessness.

[goinmerry]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

[Quidat]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

For big leagues then it wont really be much an issue but for small league ones then this would commonly happen to think that money is involved then its likely that people will really be ending up
for this kind of option and this one really make the entire organization in a bad image and i cant blame off the fans on having that kind of impression when it starts to get tainted with
these kind of illegal activities.It might not really be that common but once it do happened then impression would really be on next.

[TimeTeller]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

For big leagues then it wont really be much an issue but for small league ones then this would commonly happen to think that money is involved then its likely that people will really be ending up
for this kind of option and this one really make the entire organization in a bad image and i cant blame off the fans on having that kind of impression when it starts to get tainted with
these kind of illegal activities.It might not really be that common but once it do happened then impression would really be on next.

Their image is tainted so getting back their credibility would be a lot difficult.
But only time will tell how far they can go in this sports without committing the same mistake again.
And hopefully, not ever again. Because the second time, I don't think they will still have their career on this sports.
Because one mistake will ruin their life's career, so better look for another one, if they are thinking of doing it again.

[Betwrong]

~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.

[Natalim]

~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.

No, it's still possible to rig games, it doesn't mean they have to play the rigging game in the whole game, there's a lot of way of rigging games, a prop bet is one. A player bet like 20 points over/ under, a certain player can intentionally not make 20 points or more, just to win a certain bet.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.

More involve in rigging, the higher the chance they are caught, that's what I believe.

[Pamadar]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

That's it what happened to this topic is a good example of an obvious rigging of game.

People behind are now suffering they already receive the punishments that right to what they've done. Lesson learns that even you think that it's just normal and there is someone who also doing the same, but if you are the one who caught in the act, you are the one that will suffer the punishment.
Better to keep your self away from this illegal activities and love the opportunities that being rewarded to you, play game in the right way and be a good example for those aspirant of this sport.

[Taskford]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

People behind are now suffering they already receive the punishments that right to what they've done. Lesson learns that even you think that it's just normal and there is someone who also doing the same, but if you are the one who caught in the act, you are the one that will suffer the punishment.
Better to keep your self away from this illegal activities and love the opportunities that being rewarded to you, play game in the right way and be a good example for those aspirant of this sport.

Players will get tempted to be involved on game fixing especially if their salary is so small, that professional pointed out by OP is actually not a big league thats why the players involve think that they will not be caught cheating their games but unfortunately the power of social media is so strong and their awful games became viral easily. Now good for them facing those penalties and shame for hopefully those suspended or banned (if there is) cannot join any professional league in PH.

[peter0425]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Personally? is stopped watching Local basketball for long time now because of this thing and actually this has been happening for long years now and just recently that it was being broadcasted .

So hate it but i don't wanna trust the Game also because there are so many games that has fairness and not on this sports anymore.

[Ziskinberg]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Personally? is stopped watching Local basketball for long time now because of this thing and actually this has been happening for long years now and just recently that it was being broadcasted .

So hate it but i don't wanna trust the Game also because there are so many games that has fairness and not on this sports anymore.

That is your choice, but for me, I still love to watch local sports. I believe that although major sports have a good reputation rigging is also happening, it's not that obvious though because they have already mastered it. For me, I need to appreciate our local sports before I would appreciate an international sports.

[traderethereum]

~ The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
~

That's what we are talking about here: it becomes less and less possible to rig a game, especially if it's a high level game with many people watching it. Athletes are not film actors: they can play with all their strength to win, but if they told otherwise, it's hard for them to make it look natural.

No, it's still possible to rig games, it doesn't mean they have to play the rigging game in the whole game, there's a lot of way of rigging games, a prop bet is one. A player bet like 20 points over/ under, a certain player can intentionally not make 20 points or more, just to win a certain bet.

Yes, I agree that is possible because we do not know how the rigging can happen or how they will arrange it behind us.
We can think that is not possible but if they are often doing rigging and they are smart enough to hide that from the audience or other people, we will not know.

People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.

And if an event is watched by millions, the probability of getting caught is very high. The first time they try cheating can easily be the last.

More involve in rigging, the higher the chance they are caught, that's what I believe.

It is about a matter of time before the authorities catch them and I believe someday that will happen and we will not see that thing happen again.
That still needs time to clean that cheating and needs more effort from the authorities.

[LTU_btc]

Today there was very interesting case of potentially fixed game in Ukraine Premier League.
Some strange things happened in markets before Minaj and Shakhtar Donetsk game. Odds for Minaj win went from 27 to 44. Also, so many people started to bet on over 3.5 goals that some bookmakers removed this game from market. When I made bet for over 3.5, it was @1.60, but 30 minutes before game it was just 1.37.
And then, Minaj players simply refused to play because of allegations. Later they changed their mind, but game started 35 minutes later than planned. And how unexpected, game ended with Shakhtar win 4:0.
As far as I know, Minaj players aren't getting paid, so it's nothing surprising that they got involved in dirty things. And loss tonight means that they will drop to second division.
If you're interested, you can see highlights of game:
https://youtu.be/kSM37QIRPCo

[DoublerHunter]

^ It seems like someone just pointed a gun and threaten the teams who are involved. Not really sure who were they in favor of. But it is really obvious that they are playing the game wrong. They are trying to manipulate who would win. This is what I hate with not so much organized league. They work too dirty. It was a very obvious one. If I were the one who asked them to do it and that is the result? I would cut them out of their careers and throw them in the dirtiest jobs in the world. Nevertheless, this is just my own opinion.

[BTCLiz]

^ It seems like someone just pointed a gun and threaten the teams who are involved. Not really sure who were they in favor of. But it is really obvious that they are playing the game wrong. They are trying to manipulate who would win. This is what I hate with not so much organized league. They work too dirty. It was a very obvious one. If I were the one who asked them to do it and that is the result? I would cut them out of their careers and throw them in the dirtiest jobs in the world. Nevertheless, this is just my own opinion.

The main issue here is that if volumes of betting are getting higher the more worth it gets for criminals to manipulate games. In economic speech: The externalities get higher with larger scalability. You really need some kind of authority to control such things.

[KTChampions]

Today there was very interesting case of potentially fixed game in Ukraine Premier League.
Some strange things happened in markets before Minaj and Shakhtar Donetsk game. Odds for Minaj win went from 27 to 44. Also, so many people started to bet on over 3.5 goals that some bookmakers removed this game from market. When I made bet for over 3.5, it was @1.60, but 30 minutes before game it was just 1.37.
And then, Minaj players simply refused to play because of allegations. Later they changed their mind, but game started 35 minutes later than planned. And how unexpected, game ended with Shakhtar win 4:0.
As far as I know, Minaj players aren't getting paid, so it's nothing surprising that they got involved in dirty things. And loss tonight means that they will drop to second division.
If you're interested, you can see highlights of game:
https://youtu.be/kSM37QIRPCo

A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

[mindrust]

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

It is more common than many people think actually. Why would anybody think otherwise I cannot understand. Betting on sports is a multi billion dollar business. People will do anything to make the most buck out of it. Yes there are regulators too but they will only catch one out of a hundred rigged games.

[Joca97]

Checkout the Serbian leagues.First and Second. Both leagues in the end just fixing match especially those fighting for relegation.Uefa sended so many reports even some teams lost points.Too easy now to predict wins in this league because only thing you should do is bet on the teams fighting for survival

[Natalim]

Checkout the Serbian leagues.First and Second. Both leagues in the end just fixing match especially those fighting for relegation.Uefa sended so many reports even some teams lost points.Too easy now to predict wins in this league because only thing you should do is bet on the teams fighting for survival

That's the advantage for bettors who understands what is happening, but for the fans, they might feel different if they know that the sports they love are being rigged, this should stop, this should be a serious criminal offense so it will not be easily done by these corrupt players and officials.

[Jackl87]

I am pretty confident that there is not much or even none at all rigging going on in the big european football (soccer) leagues (England, Germany, Spain, France, Netherlands) nowadays. I am not so sure about the italian league though because they have a history of rigged games even in the serie a. I think that there is just to much money involved in those big leagues already that someone can buy enough players of a club to rig a game. I agree though that there is probably still a lot of rigging going on in the lower leagues or in leagues of smaller countries.

[michellee]

Yes, it needs to stop sooner or later, but it will need more people who have the power to investigate this problem until they found the root of the problem. Someday, sports will have a clean from the corruption and sports betting can continue without interfering with that corrupt people.

It won't be completely stop but in fairness in today's game, there are only few reported case of rigged sports especially in big or small leagues and we as a viewers, can see it clearly if a game is completely biased or a total rigged.

It's just that the rigged happened on this topic is so obvious that's why it gained an attention from professional players in the country voicing out some concerns.

Maybe that can reduce slowly, especially if the officials can catch the actor behind to get punishment from the authorities. If they can get caught, sooner or later, that can completely stop and we will see the fairness in the game so there is nothing to worry about with that rigged. We as an audience need to be wise if we see that thing still happen in the sports and maybe we can report it to the officials or the authorities. At least, that can be a clue for them to investigate any rigged that happen in the sports.

[LTU_btc]

A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

Yes, bet on over 3.5 goals on this game looks reasonsble, despite that Shakhtar were playing quite shitty. But as I understand, number of bets made on over 3.5 goals was significantly bigger than on casual similar level game, what made it to look suspicious.

[iTradeChips]

I just remembered watching the match again for some dose of cringe. I really am dismayed by the performance of the Gray team (Siquijor Mystics). Imagine, never in the video did I see free throws actually went into the basket. I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose. But why did the gray team was sacked out of the league and not the Lapu lapu team - the Yellow team? I mean it was the gray team that got lost right? Yellow should also be sacked from the league.

[Betwrong]

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A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

You are right, Shakhtar is much stronger than Minaj, just look at the result of their previous game:



Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

[blockman]

I just remembered watching the match again for some dose of cringe. I really am dismayed by the performance of the Gray team (Siquijor Mystics). Imagine, never in the video did I see free throws actually went into the basket.

That's the obvious and funny part, their intention is really to miss those free throws. Even Shaquille who's not really good in free throws can have those chances to even at least 1 or 2 shoots but with them, they've missed most of those.

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

[Woodie]

Their basketball governing body should be probed to find out why this is happening right under their nose, if it will go as far as making the teams or players involved pay a fine that will be an assuring move to discourage the same match fixing conduct from happening again.

Hope this does not take investigations to go on forever.

[adzino]

Lmao, the gameplay was so obvious that they were doing this on purpose. Even having an off night wouldn't make your play look like some kids that just started playing basketball. I think there was actually some fishy business involved (and like being something related to sports betting) and they were getting paid really good for rigging the game. The officials did perfectly notice it. Lol, they should have done better and not be very obvious.
And this isn't something new. Riggings happen and has been happening forever. Money can make anyone do anything.

[Vaculin]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

[blockman]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

[Rruchi man]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

[Fredomago]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

Probably that's going to happened after the cooldown they'll be back and do the business again, or someone will replace them and this illegal activities will continue.

They'll just going to prevent to make things happened again, they'll be more careful now and make things as normal as it can be.

We really don't know but the possibilities still there as they are use doing it they are not new to this kind of business.

[KTChampions]

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A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

You are right, Shakhtar is much stronger than Minaj, just look at the result of their previous game:

https://i.imgur.com/5PKtV7r.png

Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

I wonder how Minaj team players explained their behavior? It seems to me that the team had some serious problems and information about this went outside the club, so many bettors expected a major defeat. I don't think there was any dishonest agreement or intention to lose the game on purpose with a large score.

[el kaka22]

^^I think that's the weird part. You could always bribe someone and get a guaranteed game, like yeah sure that team should lose if that's done and I get that, not approve it but rigging in sports do happen and that's alright. However one thing is for sure, even if you are going to lose, at least lose while looking like you are trying, hell I would say play to win and maybe you will lose anyway? And if you don't, if the scores are too close, fake the part on defense and not on offense, let the other team score easier and act as if you were fouled on defense, call for a hooking, basically do all the faking on defense and just act normal on offense.

At least in that case when someone asks you could say "hey we scored this much points!! Why would we sell a game that we scored this much!!" which would be a good defense. These were just some idiots, they were so bad they didn't know how to sell a game out.

[Oasisman]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

We knew about rigging and yeah there's nothing we can do about it, but at least we have to make ourselves aware of, of how these sports facilitators are trying to rig a game. We can't stop talking about it. I know rigging won't stop, but at least by talking about it, we can make them rig a game in the hardest way unnoticeable.
Rigging a sport/game in gambling is comparable to market manipulators who's trying to manipulate the price movement of a specific altcoin. We all know something like this would always happen and it's good for us to make ourselves aware of and be more cautious in placing a bet or putting your money for investments.

[LTU_btc]

Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

Yeah, result isn't strange, but things in betting markets were not usual. There was huge bets made on over 3.5 goals, like $300k or $500k. Unfortunately, I can find only russian article about  it: https://ua.tribuna.com/football/1096858915-aleksandr-denisov-stavki-na-match-minaj-shaxter-byli-po-300-500-tysyac.html
Also, unofficial team manager Oleksandr Sevidov, who started to work in Minaj just month ago is currently banned from footbal for 5 years for being involved in match fixing. Coincidence? I don't think so. Officially he works as advisor in the team, since he aren't allowed to manage team.

I wonder how Minaj team players explained their behavior? It seems to me that the team had some serious problems and information about this went outside the club, so many bettors expected a major defeat. I don't think there was any dishonest agreement or intention to lose the game on purpose with a large score.

One their player that game was delayed because their bus arrived to the stadium too late. Other said that they didn't wanted to play and risk their reputation in case if they will suffer big loss. Team manager in press conference that he only want to talk about game and allegation about fixing is nonsense.

[Silberman]

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

Correct, this happens everywhere, I remember seeing some games at the soccer World Cup that I immediately thought were fixed as it was too obvious that both teams were trying to push the final score in a certain direction, most of the time this was on the groups stage of the World Cup and this happened when one of the favorite teams to win the tournament was in trouble and the other teams were not one of the favorites, it is obvious that under those circumstances the FIFA would prefer the favorite team to go forward so it is possible the game could have been rigged by the FIFA and not an external party.

[Fatunad]

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

Correct, this happens everywhere, I remember seeing some games at the soccer World Cup that I immediately thought were fixed as it was too obvious that both teams were trying to push the final score in a certain direction, most of the time this was on the groups stage of the World Cup and this happened when one of the favorite teams to win the tournament was in trouble and the other teams were not one of the favorites, it is obvious that under those circumstances the FIFA would prefer the favorite team to go forward so it is possible the game could have been rigged by the FIFA and not an external party.

So as fans, we should really be observant if somethings odd is happening and we arent that blind on not to notice something so lets just deal with it.

There would be corresponding consequences into those illegal actions that would be done so its up to theirs if they would risk out or not but theyre
aware on what would be in exchange once caught.Money is the main factor on why these rigged games do exist, bribe or fixing out for more money
is something shouldnt be tolerated.

[BuNga_cute]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

We knew about rigging and yeah there's nothing we can do about it, but at least we have to make ourselves aware of, of how these sports facilitators are trying to rig a game. We can't stop talking about it. I know rigging won't stop, but at least by talking about it, we can make them rig a game in the hardest way unnoticeable.
Rigging a sport/game in gambling is comparable to market manipulators who's trying to manipulate the price movement of a specific altcoin. We all know something like this would always happen and it's good for us to make ourselves aware of and be more cautious in placing a bet or putting your money for investments.

Rigging definitely happens in the world of sports and there is nothing we can do about it, even with the harsh penalties imposed on the parties
involved in rigging. This does not stop the rigging from happening, there are always reports every year that some sports competitions have rigging.
As you have said, we as ordinary people can only talk about it, without being able to prevent rigging from happening. Therefore it is very important
for us to be careful in placing bets, do research on the sports events that we want to make bets.
 

[blockman]

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

Probably that's going to happened after the cooldown they'll be back and do the business again, or someone will replace them and this illegal activities will continue.

They'll just going to prevent to make things happened again, they'll be more careful now and make things as normal as it can be.

We really don't know but the possibilities still there as they are use doing it they are not new to this kind of business.

Yeah, they will lie low a bit until the dust settles and there's no more talk about it. And when they think that it's already clear and good to go, they'll be back.
But I'm wishing that if it cannot be eradicated then next time there will be lesser until it's fully gone to every league because the players and staff will put first and prove their integrity.

[Saint-loup]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

Betting has nothing to do with making money from rigged matches, this isn't sport betting, this is called cheating and you can lose all your winnings and being put in jail if you are caught by doing that. It's wrong to say fans and punters can't do anything about that. They can stop supporting and betting on cheating teams.

[STT]

It does look alot like how I'd play, if they were drunk it'd make more sense but yea throw is unfortunately not that uncommon in proposition so vigilance is required.   What is harder to detect is special bets on a certain condition not the outright so much, so a bet on scoring at a certain time or quarter or an amount would be specific give good odds and not be as obvious.

[Lorence.xD]

It does look alot like how I'd play, if they were drunk it'd make more sense but yea throw is unfortunately not that uncommon in proposition so vigilance is required.   What is harder to detect is special bets on a certain condition not the outright so much, so a bet on scoring at a certain time or quarter or an amount would be specific give good odds and not be as obvious.

Special bets require special conditions so it is a rare one to happen and not that illegal in the essence. Throwing a game is saying something about the character of a person.

[bitbollo]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

Also lower series have the same issues! Take a look of this news about the last combine in Serie D. Impressive see how much corruption there is behind this game even at regional/local level. I think this is a plague that affect most of famous sports / tournament...

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/04/21/combine-e-scommesse-terremoto-in-serie-d-si-indaga-su-una-decina-di-partite-coinvolte-squadre-siciliane-calabresi-e-30-tesserati/6173646/

[Vaskiy]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

Also lower series have the same issues! Take a look of this news about the last combine in Serie D. Impressive see how much corruption there is behind this game even at regional/local level. I think this is a plague that affect most of famous sports / tournament...

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/04/21/combine-e-scommesse-terremoto-in-serie-d-si-indaga-su-una-decina-di-partite-coinvolte-squadre-siciliane-calabresi-e-30-tesserati/6173646/

The article is in foreign language. However I understood about the key element. These days the sporting authorities too are money minded. This is where the corruption takes hand and supress the able players. I thought it was there in my country, but this has been universal and found all around. In my country we can see this happen mostly with cricket. Now this has decreased a lot than past.

[ethereumhunter]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

Also lower series have the same issues! Take a look of this news about the last combine in Serie D. Impressive see how much corruption there is behind this game even at regional/local level. I think this is a plague that affect most of famous sports / tournament...

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/04/21/combine-e-scommesse-terremoto-in-serie-d-si-indaga-su-una-decina-di-partite-coinvolte-squadre-siciliane-calabresi-e-30-tesserati/6173646/

The article is in foreign language. However I understood about the key element. These days the sporting authorities too are money minded. This is where the corruption takes hand and supress the able players. I thought it was there in my country, but this has been universal and found all around. In my country we can see this happen mostly with cricket. Now this has decreased a lot than past.

That is happening in many countries but unfortunately, it is hard to know if that is really happening or not because they can easily hide the activity. Only a few people involved inside that thing will know and hide from others and keep it for them. Maybe that happened in football since sports contribute a lot of money which we do not know if they do not corrupt the money.

[vennali]

There have been many scandals in the eSports scene that come to my mind and it becomes pretty obvious as well. A lot of lower division leagues, be it Dota or CS Go.. seem highly rigged and they still go on as tournaments since there's no authority to stop them. Nobody even knows who the players are, and they just play with their pseudo-names. I'm sure there are similar cases with lower division football and Cricket as well. The issue with lower divisions is that its hard for the players to make ends meet with meager wages and tournament earnings. So, its easier for the fixers to corrupt them by providing them financial aids for little favors during the game. It cannot be avoided and I do not know what the solution to it is.

[NeuroticFish]

The article is in foreign language.

It's always easy to put a link into Google Translate. Here, I've done it for you (and probably others who want to read it)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/04/21/combine-e-scommesse-terremoto-in-serie-d-si-indaga-su-una-decina-di-partite-coinvolte-squadre-siciliane-calabresi-e-30-tesserati/6173646/

However I understood about the key element. These days the sporting authorities too are money minded. This is where the corruption takes hand and supress the able players. I thought it was there in my country, but this has been universal and found all around. In my country we can see this happen mostly with cricket. Now this has decreased a lot than past.

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

[Pamadar]

for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Since there are known and "documented" (on Wikipedia!) scandals about rigged games in Italian football - see here, or here - I don't know if anybody truly believes that this cannot happen... unless he's been living under a rock for far too many years 

Also lower series have the same issues! Take a look of this news about the last combine in Serie D. Impressive see how much corruption there is behind this game even at regional/local level. I think this is a plague that affect most of famous sports / tournament...

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/04/21/combine-e-scommesse-terremoto-in-serie-d-si-indaga-su-una-decina-di-partite-coinvolte-squadre-siciliane-calabresi-e-30-tesserati/6173646/

The article is in foreign language. However I understood about the key element. These days the sporting authorities too are money minded. This is where the corruption takes hand and supress the able players. I thought it was there in my country, but this has been universal and found all around. In my country we can see this happen mostly with cricket. Now this has decreased a lot than past.

It's now common in every side of the world, and in any available sports.

Though there are so many rumors but proving is another thing,  obvious doers are now suppress and suspended while to those
who are still planning to do it, they need to make more decent and not as obvious like this, they have to work accordingly and
make sure to prevent being caught.

[mirakal]

It does look alot like how I'd play, if they were drunk it'd make more sense but yea throw is unfortunately not that uncommon in proposition so vigilance is required.   What is harder to detect is special bets on a certain condition not the outright so much, so a bet on scoring at a certain time or quarter or an amount would be specific give good odds and not be as obvious.

Special bets require special conditions so it is a rare one to happen and not that illegal in the essence. Throwing a game is saying something about the character of a person.

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

[Wexnident]

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

Sometimes rigging happens just to let the players have an easy time, reduce the stress and well, steam roll through the enemy team, building confidence. It happens afaik, especially against newbie teams vs newbie teams, most of the time it's just who's got the bigger backing and stuff. I'd reckon that most who actually host gambling for players and referees have quite a reputation, much so that it wouldn't actually get leaked even if someone got caught or something.

[Smartprofit]

A professional basketball league called VisMin cup in the Philippines had a very controversial match last night as both team shows unusual and weird game in the professional sports scene ever.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tv5.espn.com/basketball/story/_/id/31259729/gab-probe-controversial-vismin-cup-game%3fplatform=amp
Rumors said that these both teams had to rig a game because there were a huge money involved in an online betting. But, everything's turned to be obvious that the officials had to stop the game after the 1st half because they believe something's not right that's going on, and they believe it wasn't just an off night.

Here's a video clip from this match up.
https://youtu.be/uwma0Qs2-ck
(video not mine, just for clarification purposes only)
Take note, that is a professional basketball game, and they were playing like a grade schooler. The other team had shot 0/10 ft.

Some professional basketball players in the Philippines coming from the major basketball league called PBA has shared their reactions on social media.
Most of them said "these players disrespected the game of basketball."
Some said they are even lucky to be playing despite the pandemic where a lot of professional basket players has lost their job.

I personally know that something like this has been happening since before in every sport, but with this obvious is such a huge disrespect not only for the game itself, but for the fans as well. This is such a huge fraud.

Im sharing this story for everyone who doesn't believe in fixed games in sports.

Yes, this is very sad.  

Fixed matches, when teams agree in advance who will win and who will lose, is unfortunately very common.  

I condemn such things.  

Indeed, in this case, sports teams are acting unfairly towards their fans and bettors.  Unfortunately, it is very difficult to expose such illegal behavior.  Athletes may declare that they are tired.  The coach can state that the players are ill.  Sports competitions are interesting only if there is fair competition.  Unfortunately, this is not always the case in sports.  

In ancient times, sports were not associated with money and commerce.  The champion received only a laurel wreath and respect.

[ropyu1978]

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

Sometimes rigging happens just to let the players have an easy time, reduce the stress and well, steam roll through the enemy team, building confidence. It happens afaik, especially against newbie teams vs newbie teams, most of the time it's just who's got the bigger backing and stuff. I'd reckon that most who actually host gambling for players and referees have quite a reputation, much so that it wouldn't actually get leaked even if someone got caught or something.

Cheating usually occurs, when the weak team is clearly integrated, and there is intense competition at the top, when the top team is playing with the lower team is obvious, that's where the cheating happens, and the top team will definitely give the bottom team money ,,
cheating like that has often happened in the world of football ''

[AmoreJaz]

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

Sometimes rigging happens just to let the players have an easy time, reduce the stress and well, steam roll through the enemy team, building confidence. It happens afaik, especially against newbie teams vs newbie teams, most of the time it's just who's got the bigger backing and stuff. I'd reckon that most who actually host gambling for players and referees have quite a reputation, much so that it wouldn't actually get leaked even if someone got caught or something.

Cheating usually occurs, when the weak team is clearly integrated, and there is intense competition at the top, when the top team is playing with the lower team is obvious, that's where the cheating happens, and the top team will definitely give the bottom team money ,,
cheating like that has often happened in the world of football ''

but in the OP's case, it was basketball, and if you are a follower of that league, you will surely know something is wrong even as a spectator. in basketball, it is easy to spot unusual movement if you are a fan of the team. good thing, the officials themselves called out the situation. because if not, they will also be held liable afterwards.
and yes, this cheating stuff also happens in other sports. they are just fooling themselves because they will lose credibility as well as trust from fans

[stadus]

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

Sometimes rigging happens just to let the players have an easy time, reduce the stress and well, steam roll through the enemy team, building confidence. It happens afaik, especially against newbie teams vs newbie teams, most of the time it's just who's got the bigger backing and stuff. I'd reckon that most who actually host gambling for players and referees have quite a reputation, much so that it wouldn't actually get leaked even if someone got caught or something.

Cheating usually occurs, when the weak team is clearly integrated, and there is intense competition at the top, when the top team is playing with the lower team is obvious, that's where the cheating happens, and the top team will definitely give the bottom team money ,,
cheating like that has often happened in the world of football ''

Using the description of weak teams and strong teams, you seem to be thinking that it's coordinated cheating, which I would disagree with since that would make them so obvious and the sports has no reputation for that. Cheating is not allowed in any sports, that is illegal, so if there's a cheat, usually it only involves one to two players and they are just trying to shave points as that is a kind of cheat that is not obvious to the fans.

What OP shared was really an obvious cheating, so they got easily caught. 

[Hamphser]

It's all about money. If rigging is somewhat possible, it will be attempted, at least. The smaller the club is, the cheaper should be to bribe them to lose a game.
Also it's difficult to track if a player or referee is gambling (indirectly, of course).

Sometimes rigging happens just to let the players have an easy time, reduce the stress and well, steam roll through the enemy team, building confidence. It happens afaik, especially against newbie teams vs newbie teams, most of the time it's just who's got the bigger backing and stuff. I'd reckon that most who actually host gambling for players and referees have quite a reputation, much so that it wouldn't actually get leaked even if someone got caught or something.

Cheating usually occurs, when the weak team is clearly integrated, and there is intense competition at the top, when the top team is playing with the lower team is obvious, that's where the cheating happens, and the top team will definitely give the bottom team money ,,
cheating like that has often happened in the world of football ''

Using the description of weak teams and strong teams, you seem to be thinking that it's coordinated cheating, which I would disagree with since that would make them so obvious and the sports has no reputation for that. Cheating is not allowed in any sports, that is illegal, so if there's a cheat, usually it only involves one to two players and they are just trying to shave points as that is a kind of cheat that is not obvious to the fans.

What OP shared was really an obvious cheating, so they got easily caught. 

There are really rigged up games which you dont know if its really being rigged or not because its well executed or not really that much obvious unlike on what OP had shared on where those

kind of gameplays is way too horrible and even a grade-schooler would able to shoot those ball without having any solid defense. They should be penalized on what they've been doing

and its clear as day that this one is rigged and they should be shameful into theirselves on showing off those kind of shitty plays for the sake of money.

[OgNasty]

Obviously there is rigging in sports. It’s pretty rare in professional sports though. Sure it happens all the time in high school and is even somewhat common in college sports, but professional athletes are compensated to ensure that things like this don’t happen. When you’re playing for a paycheck you should feel a higher obligation to respect the sanctity of the game. The recent NBA referee scandal comes to mind as an example of it getting into the highest levels of sports.

I’m still mad about the Lakers beating the Kings in the playoffs because of that scandal and the Lakers beating the Suns in the playoffs. Damn crooked referee kept both my teams from their shot at a title. 

[blockman]

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

Throwing is can be like a sold game and that's right, in accordance with the law, they should be penalized. And those players that have been involved were careless and didn't think what will be the exact outcome of their decision to participate to throw the game.

[STT]

CS Go.. seem highly rigged and they still go on as tournaments since there's no authority to stop them.

The Australian teams have been hit by a police investigation and 35 are suspended one to five years by ESIC, they were minor players but still very highly skilled and surely one or two would develop further and be relevant on the world stage with bigger potential earnings.   Considering criminal prosecution is possible and funds can be traced and have done in the past, losing the respect of any fan base which could carry on far past any limited strict career in the pro game its not really worth it.   Theres plenty of people who've played, not that great but become associated with the games like commentators or whatever and that can last a life time.  They really aren't being paid that much to throw in minor games from what I've heard

[Silberman]

Rigging definitely happens in the world of sports and there is nothing we can do about it, even with the harsh penalties imposed on the parties
involved in rigging. This does not stop the rigging from happening, there are always reports every year that some sports competitions have rigging.
As you have said, we as ordinary people can only talk about it, without being able to prevent rigging from happening. Therefore it is very important
for us to be careful in placing bets, do research on the sports events that we want to make bets.
 

There is in fact something that fans can do if the rigging of games becomes so obvious that everyone knows it is happening all the time, and that is to stop watching the games and support the sport, after all if the games are rigged so frequently that everyone knows it is happening and people get disappointed with the sport then why watch it on the first place? Find another league or another sport that respects their spectators and enjoy your free time that way.

[Betwrong]

^^I think that's the weird part. You could always bribe someone and get a guaranteed game, like yeah sure that team should lose if that's done and I get that, not approve it but rigging in sports do happen and that's alright. However one thing is for sure, even if you are going to lose, at least lose while looking like you are trying, hell I would say play to win and maybe you will lose anyway? And if you don't, if the scores are too close, fake the part on defense and not on offense, let the other team score easier and act as if you were fouled on defense, call for a hooking, basically do all the faking on defense and just act normal on offense.

At least in that case when someone asks you could say "hey we scored this much points!! Why would we sell a game that we scored this much!!" which would be a good defense. These were just some idiots, they were so bad they didn't know how to sell a game out.

They were not necessarily "idiots", they could act like that on purpose to draw attention of the world to this particular game. With no people on tribunes and no TV broadcasting, the rigging could go unnoticed by the general public.

Overall, it looks like some managers have decided to exploit the situation with COVID-19, and rig some games "while no one's watching". It's good that there are honest athletes fighting the corruption.

[Obito]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

[traderethereum]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

We hope that will not get rigging but I am not sure about that because they can search for a way to still rigging.
Maybe it will be eradicated in the future, especially if the committee can be honest and have the integrity to make sure the tournament can clean from the rigging.
But even if they watch the match, they will not directly know if that is not be rigged because that will show clearly for the audience.

[freedomgo]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

We hope that will not get rigging but I am not sure about that because they can search for a way to still rigging.
Maybe it will be eradicated in the future, especially if the committee can be honest and have the integrity to make sure the tournament can clean from the rigging.
But even if they watch the match, they will not directly know if that is not be rigged because that will show clearly for the audience.

Rigging in games will not completely be wiped out, as long as there's money involved, there are really people who are ready to commit a crime just to make money, and rigging in sports does not come with big punishment, so they will not hesitate in doing this.

[Oasisman]

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

Good find of information right there.
I guess there are always a legal implications in every country that is related to sports crime.
Match fixing/rigging is a form of fraud and bribery for the officials involved.
But the investigation for this will take time, and it's going to be pointless If they'll dig deeper on this case to catch all those who are involved. So, the best option to make was to penalize the players and coaching staff by paying a specific amount of money, or worse termination of professional license and lifetime ban from the league.
Imprisonment might not be possible for this case.

[Silberman]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

One would think that rigging high profile games is more expensive and they will be right but this could give the idea it happens less frequently but I doubt it, scammers go after the money and the biggest amount of money they can get is without a doubt on fixing big games and the bigger the game the better, so while it may seem unlikely many high profile games are probably fixed every year, also it is not like those people need to fix hundreds of games, if they can fix just a few matches each year and bet everything on the desired result they could become way richer in no time at all.

[stadus]

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

Good find of information right there.
I guess there are always a legal implications in every country that is related to sports crime.
Match fixing/rigging is a form of fraud and bribery for the officials involved.
But the investigation for this will take time, and it's going to be pointless If they'll dig deeper on this case to catch all those who are involved. So, the best option to make was to penalize the players and coaching staff by paying a specific amount of money, or worse termination of professional license and lifetime ban from the league.
Imprisonment might not be possible for this case.

Agree, it's hard to convict these people as they will surely not gonna admit they are trying to rig the game. Though it's obvious, they will only be accused of a crime if there's enough evidence, now the question is, what evidence will they use against these players to prove they are rigging the game?

[traderethereum]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

We hope that will not get rigging but I am not sure about that because they can search for a way to still rigging.
Maybe it will be eradicated in the future, especially if the committee can be honest and have the integrity to make sure the tournament can clean from the rigging.
But even if they watch the match, they will not directly know if that is not be rigged because that will show clearly for the audience.

Rigging in games will not completely be wiped out, as long as there's money involved, there are really people who are ready to commit a crime just to make money, and rigging in sports does not come with big punishment, so they will not hesitate in doing this.

I guess you are right. But we can hope that rigging in games can be reduced in the future, especially if more officers can work honestly with their jobs.
Besides having honest officers, the punishment system can be applied for the corrupt officers not to try to rig the game because they will get in jail.
If that happens, the corrupt officers or staff will not try to rig the game because they will end their careers in jail.
It is about how they can have dedication, integrity, and honesty in their jobs to prevent that thing from happening.

[Questat]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

We hope that will not get rigging but I am not sure about that because they can search for a way to still rigging.
Maybe it will be eradicated in the future, especially if the committee can be honest and have the integrity to make sure the tournament can clean from the rigging.
But even if they watch the match, they will not directly know if that is not be rigged because that will show clearly for the audience.

Rigging in games will not completely be wiped out, as long as there's money involved, there are really people who are ready to commit a crime just to make money, and rigging in sports does not come with big punishment, so they will not hesitate in doing this.

I guess you are right. But we can hope that rigging in games can be reduced in the future, especially if more officers can work honestly with their jobs.
Besides having honest officers, the punishment system can be applied for the corrupt officers not to try to rig the game because they will get in jail.
If that happens, the corrupt officers or staff will not try to rig the game because they will end their careers in jail.
It is about how they can have dedication, integrity, and honesty in their jobs to prevent that thing from happening.

They would work honestly if the law will be very strict. In a corrupt country, you can expect that people are also corrupt, maybe not all of them but people who are in the position to commit an illegal activity just to make more money. They are greedy because they know they would not be jailed or if they will, it will not be a long jail time for them.  It should all start with the law, then implement it strictly and we will never hear this kind of news.

[traderethereum]

~snip

The rigging and the corruption will not just happen in the low-level games because, in a high-level game, those things can happen without us know for sure, especially if many people contribute to that games.
People who often commit corruption will not think of being honest because they feel comfortable doing that thing many times and will not stop before getting caught.
Even if they get caught, they will not feel guilty for doing corruption because they do not have a shame to the public.
Being honest is hard, but that is worth it to do.

Yes it will be present in a high level league but it will be really difficult to pull the rigging off as there are millions of eyes watching and definitely out of those millions, there will be thousands that will notice the irregularities.

We hope that will not get rigging but I am not sure about that because they can search for a way to still rigging.
Maybe it will be eradicated in the future, especially if the committee can be honest and have the integrity to make sure the tournament can clean from the rigging.
But even if they watch the match, they will not directly know if that is not be rigged because that will show clearly for the audience.

Rigging in games will not completely be wiped out, as long as there's money involved, there are really people who are ready to commit a crime just to make money, and rigging in sports does not come with big punishment, so they will not hesitate in doing this.

I guess you are right. But we can hope that rigging in games can be reduced in the future, especially if more officers can work honestly with their jobs.
Besides having honest officers, the punishment system can be applied for the corrupt officers not to try to rig the game because they will get in jail.
If that happens, the corrupt officers or staff will not try to rig the game because they will end their careers in jail.
It is about how they can have dedication, integrity, and honesty in their jobs to prevent that thing from happening.

They would work honestly if the law will be very strict. In a corrupt country, you can expect that people are also corrupt, maybe not all of them but people who are in the position to commit an illegal activity just to make more money. They are greedy because they know they would not be jailed or if they will, it will not be a long jail time for them.  It should all start with the law, then implement it strictly and we will never hear this kind of news.

If the law is very strict, there is no way for the officers to corrupt from many things because the risk, if they get caught, will be hard for them as they can get heavy punishment from the court.
Yes, maybe we see many corrupt officers in the corrupt country because they think it is easy to corrupt and get the hot money from many things.
They take it easy about the punishment because they know that the law is not too strict and will corrupt them.
I think it should start from the personal to be honest and not corrupt, even for just small things, because that can make them feel it is okay if they corrupt for small things.

[Silberman]

Agree, it's hard to convict these people as they will surely not gonna admit they are trying to rig the game. Though it's obvious, they will only be accused of a crime if there's enough evidence, now the question is, what evidence will they use against these players to prove they are rigging the game?

Taking into account that we live in the digital age and that most people do not take their security seriously there could be a lot of evidence that could suggest that whoever is suspected of rigging the game, whether the players, coaches or referees were guilty of it, we will have a lot of evidence to prove it, it is similar to what couples go through it now, finding that your partner was cheating was harder in the past as you needed eyewitnesses, but now the only thing people need to do is to grab their smartphone and take a look at their messages and they can quickly find out if their partner is cheating or not.

[Wawa2013]

Agree, it's hard to convict these people as they will surely not gonna admit they are trying to rig the game. Though it's obvious, they will only be accused of a crime if there's enough evidence, now the question is, what evidence will they use against these players to prove they are rigging the game?

Taking into account that we live in the digital age and that most people do not take their security seriously there could be a lot of evidence that could suggest that whoever is suspected of rigging the game, whether the players, coaches or referees were guilty of it, we will have a lot of evidence to prove it, it is similar to what couples go through it now, finding that your partner was cheating was harder in the past as you needed eyewitnesses, but now the only thing people need to do is to grab their smartphone and take a look at their messages and they can quickly find out if their partner is cheating or not.

It is fortunate that the development of technology has developed rapidly, so it is easier to find evidence of people involved in rigging the game.
There are many ways that can be used to get evidence, usually tapping a smartphone is the most effective way to get evidence. Because usually
there will be conversations about rigging the game. Can also check a suspect person's bank account, if there is a suspicious flow of funds it can
be investigated further. So I believe everyone involved in rigging the game should be caught and given the appropriate punishment.

[arwin100]

Agree, it's hard to convict these people as they will surely not gonna admit they are trying to rig the game. Though it's obvious, they will only be accused of a crime if there's enough evidence, now the question is, what evidence will they use against these players to prove they are rigging the game?

Taking into account that we live in the digital age and that most people do not take their security seriously there could be a lot of evidence that could suggest that whoever is suspected of rigging the game, whether the players, coaches or referees were guilty of it, we will have a lot of evidence to prove it, it is similar to what couples go through it now, finding that your partner was cheating was harder in the past as you needed eyewitnesses, but now the only thing people need to do is to grab their smartphone and take a look at their messages and they can quickly find out if their partner is cheating or not.

It is fortunate that the development of technology has developed rapidly, so it is easier to find evidence of people involved in rigging the game.
There are many ways that can be used to get evidence, usually tapping a smartphone is the most effective way to get evidence. Because usually
there will be conversations about rigging the game. Can also check a suspect person's bank account, if there is a suspicious flow of funds it can
be investigated further. So I believe everyone involved in rigging the game should be caught and given the appropriate punishment.

Well maybe this one is been minimize as the technology has been rising many hi-tech camera now are been introduce that's why may something like this has been caught, but if you are a audience then yeah smart phone video will really help unto this since it could make the league viral on what they are doing and impose some penalties if they are proven that they do so.

But I don't think we can check someones bank account easily since there is bank secrecy law and you cannot check this as easy as you think.

[stadus]

But I don't think we can check someones bank account easily since there is bank secrecy law and you cannot check this as easy as you think.

Yes there is a bank secrecy law, but in the event of an investigation, the authorities could ask permission from the court, and if the court agrees, they will be given access to the record for the purpose of investigation, so if these people are cheating and they have unexplained money in their bank account, it can be used against them and they'll accuse of the case.

[Fredomago]

But I don't think we can check someones bank account easily since there is bank secrecy law and you cannot check this as easy as you think.

Yes there is a bank secrecy law, but in the event of an investigation, the authorities could ask permission from the court, and if the court agrees, they will be given access to the record for the purpose of investigation, so if these people are cheating and they have unexplained money in their bank account, it can be used against them and they'll accuse of the case.

That's easy once the court order this and nothing can be hide, those who are in the list of suspected participants are no longer safe in keeping their assets. The law will surely trace them.

The access will serve as a good key to find more about this rigging activities, looking for those involve individuals should be more easy.

Lets hope the implementations of all the possible rules will be use to trace more about this issue.

[qwertyup23]

This is just very heartbreaking to see and watch especially when your countrymen is involved.

Obviously, those players and teams deserve to be absolutely prohibited from participating in future events held. The fact that they had the audacity to fake and rig such game speaks so much about their attitude in real life. They really thought they can get away with those lame attempts of shooting and rigging the game. This is not only insulting to the game of basketball, but also insulting to people as it adds prejudice to the image of Filipinos, in general.

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

This is very interesting to see that Marcos saw the need to create for a law (with his powers as both the President and as a legislator) that addresses game fixing. This also gives a blanket of security against people who abuse game-fixing as it is prohibited by law.

[freedomgo]

This is just very heartbreaking to see and watch especially when your countrymen is involved.

Obviously, those players and teams deserve to be absolutely prohibited from participating in future events held. The fact that they had the audacity to fake and rig such game speaks so much about their attitude in real life. They really thought they can get away with those lame attempts of shooting and rigging the game. This is not only insulting to the game of basketball, but also insulting to people as it adds prejudice to the image of Filipinos, in general.

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

This is very interesting to see that Marcos saw the need to create for a law (with his powers as both the President and as a legislator) that addresses game fixing. This also gives a blanket of security against people who abuse game-fixing as it is prohibited by law.

Good that the law was already created but the question, was there people who got convicted because of game-fixing, I mean the law is useless if it's not strictly implemented, it's easy to make a law but hard to implement it if the government does not have the will or of the government itself is corrupt.

[STT]

They have to find and prosecute such instances, often the sport itself is best self governed but to have a law is fairly important so there is some bite to such investigations and in order to pass the case onto police and lawyers to prosecute with.     Unfortunately its a very tempting prospect especially at the ground level of the game where many players may never progress as far and as easily as taking money to make a bet come true.
  That said courts dont have the unique expertise that players themselves do, the greatest deterrent is knowing your own group of players know exactly what you are doing and can take action against you for anything decidable even outside a law court; a law court will require proof beyond reasonable doubt where as a trade body or player union can decide a verdict by majority and is far quicker to punish easily I think.
  Its the sports own best interests to self govern and ensure corruption does not take root and reduce investment by lack of integrity and belief in game results, without this much damage can occur and foreign leagues will take priority over a country's self grown talent.

[Kelvinid]

This is just very heartbreaking to see and watch especially when your countrymen is involved.

Obviously, those players and teams deserve to be absolutely prohibited from participating in future events held. The fact that they had the audacity to fake and rig such game speaks so much about their attitude in real life. They really thought they can get away with those lame attempts of shooting and rigging the game. This is not only insulting to the game of basketball, but also insulting to people as it adds prejudice to the image of Filipinos, in general.

I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

This is very interesting to see that Marcos saw the need to create for a law (with his powers as both the President and as a legislator) that addresses game fixing. This also gives a blanket of security against people who abuse game-fixing as it is prohibited by law.

Good that the law was already created but the question, was there people who got convicted because of game-fixing, I mean the law is useless if it's not strictly implemented, it's easy to make a law but hard to implement it if the government does not have the will or of the government itself is corrupt.

That's how bad the law in the Philippines, we have a lot of laws but we have a problem in implementing them. The justice system is slow, and that makes these people to be more confident in breaking the law as they know they can still get away with it.

was there people who got convicted because of game-fixing,

I can't remember a person was jailed for game fixing, suspenstion is the maximum punishment or ban in sport AFAIK.

[Lorence.xD]

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I don't know if it's not illegal in some countries, but in the Philippines, that is illegal as that would enter into the anti-game-fixing which is punishable by the Law. This is the specific law that I'm talking about. https://www.chanrobles.com/presidentialdecrees/presidentialdecreeno483.html

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 483 June 13, 1974

PENALIZING BETTING, GAME-FIXING OR POINT SHAVING AND MACHINATIONS IN SPORTS CONTESTS

What I am talking about regarding the special kinds of bets are those that are made in between two people. Some kind of a personal bet and I don't think that it is illegal plus even if it it's illegal, it's not like they are going to enforce it always.

[Silberman]

They have to find and prosecute such instances, often the sport itself is best self governed but to have a law is fairly important so there is some bite to such investigations and in order to pass the case onto police and lawyers to prosecute with.     Unfortunately its a very tempting prospect especially at the ground level of the game where many players may never progress as far and as easily as taking money to make a bet come true.
  That said courts dont have the unique expertise that players themselves do, the greatest deterrent is knowing your own group of players know exactly what you are doing and can take action against you for anything decidable even outside a law court; a law court will require proof beyond reasonable doubt where as a trade body or player union can decide a verdict by majority and is far quicker to punish easily I think.
  Its the sports own best interests to self govern and ensure corruption does not take root and reduce investment by lack of integrity and belief in game results, without this much damage can occur and foreign leagues will take priority over a country's self grown talent.

This is important, the integrity of the game is incredibly important, those that are deciding to rig the games think they are being smart not realizing that each instance of the game being rigged gives the people more and more reasons to not care about the league and the sport anymore, which in return reduces their salary as well, it is as if they do not understand this simple fact, after all what it is the point to watch a sport competition if you know that you cannot trust the results at all.

[ultrloa]

They have to find and prosecute such instances, often the sport itself is best self governed but to have a law is fairly important so there is some bite to such investigations and in order to pass the case onto police and lawyers to prosecute with.     Unfortunately its a very tempting prospect especially at the ground level of the game where many players may never progress as far and as easily as taking money to make a bet come true.
  That said courts dont have the unique expertise that players themselves do, the greatest deterrent is knowing your own group of players know exactly what you are doing and can take action against you for anything decidable even outside a law court; a law court will require proof beyond reasonable doubt where as a trade body or player union can decide a verdict by majority and is far quicker to punish easily I think.
  Its the sports own best interests to self govern and ensure corruption does not take root and reduce investment by lack of integrity and belief in game results, without this much damage can occur and foreign leagues will take priority over a country's self grown talent.

This is important, the integrity of the game is incredibly important, those that are deciding to rig the games think they are being smart not realizing that each instance of the game being rigged gives the people more and more reasons to not care about the league and the sport anymore, which in return reduces their salary as well, it is as if they do not understand this simple fact, after all what it is the point to watch a sport competition if you know that you cannot trust the results at all.

Its so important to the extent that the fans is at stake if they keep doing that in the league for sure there's no people will support them if they keep crazy things around the league so to maintain the integrity and for fans trust to comeback they should show how strict they are regarding on this issue. And what good thing here on the topic posted by OP is the involve parties are already penalize a lifetime ban on the league and also the players will possibly get a hard time to join on any league in the Philippines.

[Kittygalore]

Yes there is a bank secrecy law, but in the event of an investigation, the authorities could ask permission from the court, and if the court agrees, they will be given access to the record for the purpose of investigation, so if these people are cheating and they have unexplained money in their bank account, it can be used against them and they'll accuse of the case.

By the time that this people have checked the bank account of this individuals that are suspected of rigging the matches, the money will not be on their main account or the money has already been cleaned so there isn't much they can do unless they open a laundering case too.

[Pamadar]

Yes there is a bank secrecy law, but in the event of an investigation, the authorities could ask permission from the court, and if the court agrees, they will be given access to the record for the purpose of investigation, so if these people are cheating and they have unexplained money in their bank account, it can be used against them and they'll accuse of the case.

By the time that this people have checked the bank account of this individuals that are suspected of rigging the matches, the money will not be on their main account or the money has already been cleaned so there isn't much they can do unless they open a laundering case too.

Very possible but the trace is still possible to track them up, all the transactions can be opened,

once the request already granted the bank can disclose those information, if the investigating group are really keen in finding those
individuals to punished and to break this illigal activities there are many ways in doing it.
The thing is, there are also influencial people or people who can pay more to cool this issue and eventually kill those news about it.

[Kittygalore]

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Very possible but the trace is still possible to track them up, all the transactions can be opened,

once the request already granted the bank can disclose those information, if the investigating group are really keen in finding those
individuals to punished and to break this illigal activities there are many ways in doing it.
The thing is, there are also influencial people or people who can pay more to cool this issue and eventually kill those news about it.

Depends how smart and crafty both the launderer and the AML team is going to be brcause if the launderer is smarter than the other team, they will probably get off scot free, remember that our laws regarding AML is really archaic for current standards so there are loopholes that the launderers can use to get away.

[freedomgo]

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Very possible but the trace is still possible to track them up, all the transactions can be opened,

once the request already granted the bank can disclose those information, if the investigating group are really keen in finding those
individuals to punished and to break this illigal activities there are many ways in doing it.
The thing is, there are also influencial people or people who can pay more to cool this issue and eventually kill those news about it.

Depends how smart and crafty both the launderer and the AML team is going to be brcause if the launderer is smarter than the other team, they will probably get off scot free, remember that our laws regarding AML is really archaic for current standards so there are loopholes that the launderers can use to get away.

It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

[Natalim]

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Very possible but the trace is still possible to track them up, all the transactions can be opened,

once the request already granted the bank can disclose those information, if the investigating group are really keen in finding those
individuals to punished and to break this illigal activities there are many ways in doing it.
The thing is, there are also influencial people or people who can pay more to cool this issue and eventually kill those news about it.

Depends how smart and crafty both the launderer and the AML team is going to be brcause if the launderer is smarter than the other team, they will probably get off scot free, remember that our laws regarding AML is really archaic for current standards so there are loopholes that the launderers can use to get away.

It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

We have to understand first the meaning of money laundering... For a basic definition, it's cleaning dirty money that's why they use the word "launder".. Banks and other financial institution are directed to report to the Anti Money Laundering Agency, and they just cooperate, so a criminal who doesn't have enough knowledge about this can easily be caught.

[Kittygalore]

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It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

I didn't say that it will directly go to their banks if they procured an illegal money, it's not the launderers that have the legitimate businesses, it's the people that owns the illegal money that has the legitimate business, most launderers are only accountants and them having a lot of businesses is going to be difficult.

[michellee]

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Very possible but the trace is still possible to track them up, all the transactions can be opened,

once the request already granted the bank can disclose those information, if the investigating group are really keen in finding those
individuals to punished and to break this illigal activities there are many ways in doing it.
The thing is, there are also influencial people or people who can pay more to cool this issue and eventually kill those news about it.

Depends how smart and crafty both the launderer and the AML team is going to be brcause if the launderer is smarter than the other team, they will probably get off scot free, remember that our laws regarding AML is really archaic for current standards so there are loopholes that the launderers can use to get away.

It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

Indeed. They will save the money in the big safety box or spreads their wealth into many places with full security that will always guard that box. If they send the money into banks, that will not take too long for the banks to investigate the money and the banks will know where the money comes from. Launderers already think about that and will make sure that his money is safe from the banks and the authorities. They will not send the money from the rigging sports into their banks and it will be safe in their "safety home".

[Silberman]

Yes there is a bank secrecy law, but in the event of an investigation, the authorities could ask permission from the court, and if the court agrees, they will be given access to the record for the purpose of investigation, so if these people are cheating and they have unexplained money in their bank account, it can be used against them and they'll accuse of the case.

By the time that this people have checked the bank account of this individuals that are suspected of rigging the matches, the money will not be on their main account or the money has already been cleaned so there isn't much they can do unless they open a laundering case too.

But that is not the point of the investigation, even if the money is not there on the account anymore as long as you can see there was a deposit of money for an amount that cannot be explained then that is all what it is need to corroborate the fact those people were part of the plot to rig games, but most leagues do not want to do anything remotely close to this as they think they will lose fans on the short term, and that is true, but they are bound to lose more fans over the long term as the rigging of the games becomes impossible to hide from the general public.

[freedomgo]

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It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

I didn't say that it will directly go to their banks if they procured an illegal money, it's not the launderers that have the legitimate businesses, it's the people that owns the illegal money that has the legitimate business, most launderers are only accountants and them having a lot of businesses is going to be difficult.

Regardless of who that person is, as long as he is into illegal activities and he put his money to the bank, that can be investigated and he has to explain it. We don't need to be accountants to gain knowledge about money laundering, a simple research would already educate us.

[iTradeChips]

Now, I am wondering as I am checking this thread, would there be another example of a rigged game that was infamous and was well known in the sports community? Surely with the long history of sports there might be other examples of this coming from other sports and was recorded on video. Does anyone here know any other example that was recorded on video? Maybe there is a possibility that something similar got recorded and it got too obvious resulting to them being sacked.

[ethereumhunter]

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It will not go to the bank if a person who is into this illegal activity cannot explain the wealth. Launderers are financially capable, they have legit business to justify their cash inflows and outflows, so if one just purely rigged the game to make big money, it's stupid to put it in the bank as that would only give him trouble.

I didn't say that it will directly go to their banks if they procured an illegal money, it's not the launderers that have the legitimate businesses, it's the people that owns the illegal money that has the legitimate business, most launderers are only accountants and them having a lot of businesses is going to be difficult.

Regardless of who that person is, as long as he is into illegal activities and he put his money to the bank, that can be investigated and he has to explain it. We don't need to be accountants to gain knowledge about money laundering, a simple research would already educate us.

Indeed. That is why the money launderer needs to have another place to save that money to clean in the law eyes and not get a problem from his banks or the authorities. The illegal people will try to operate a legal business to cover their illegal business, not get a problem or cover their track from the government. We already saw how the money launderer is doing their business but soon, they caught by the authorities.

[dunfida]

Now, I am wondering as I am checking this thread, would there be another example of a rigged game that was infamous and was well known in the sports community? Surely with the long history of sports there might be other examples of this coming from other sports and was recorded on video. Does anyone here know any other example that was recorded on video? Maybe there is a possibility that something similar got recorded and it got too obvious resulting to them being sacked.

When it comes to these kind of events then its likely you wont really be able to see these footages or videos on certain busted possible or confirmed rigged games unless if its leaked or
getting much attention online but for sure there are still some who hadnt really get that much emphasized or known or been shown to the public but of course those things do exist.
For smaller leagues then it might be a bit common to look upon but for bigger ones then its really rare to find one.

[mirakal]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

[maydna]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

We don't know about the update. But if they are proven guilty because of doing something bad, they will get in jail and perhaps get punishment from the association. But if they have money to bribe the officers, they can free from anything, and they can still do another bad thing.

But the rigging of sports is not easy to eliminate, and it will happen more and more. I wonder how the honest officers will clean the mess and investigate every rigging case in the sports.

[mirakal]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

We don't know about the update. But if they are proven guilty because of doing something bad, they will get in jail and perhaps get punishment from the association. But if they have money to bribe the officers, they can free from anything, and they can still do another bad thing.

I would be okay if there's already the result of the investigation, at least we will know if they are really guilty, on them getting jail, I think it's gonna be a long process if the accused people would fight on the lawsuit against them.

But the rigging of sports is not easy to eliminate, and it will happen more and more. I wonder how the honest officers will clean the mess and investigate every rigging case in the sports.

It's the players who are involved here, they are making an obvious rigging of sport in this specific game.

[carlisle1]

Now, I am wondering as I am checking this thread, would there be another example of a rigged game that was infamous and was well known in the sports community? Surely with the long history of sports there might be other examples of this coming from other sports and was recorded on video. Does anyone here know any other example that was recorded on video? Maybe there is a possibility that something similar got recorded and it got too obvious resulting to them being sacked.

When it comes to these kind of events then its likely you wont really be able to see these footages or videos on certain busted possible or confirmed rigged games unless if its leaked or
getting much attention online but for sure there are still some who hadnt really get that much emphasized or known or been shown to the public but of course those things do exist.
For smaller leagues then it might be a bit common to look upon but for bigger ones then its really rare to find one.

Big ones for sure have the best system not being caught they are well aware with the punishments that
they'll going to face and all those embarrassments that's awaits them in case something comes up and ruined the system.

Most of us have that speculations regarding to big leagues but until then that evidence are already available that's the only the
time that we can say it's really exist.

Unlike with small leagues which commonly the venue for this kind of obvious activities.

[maydna]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

We don't know about the update. But if they are proven guilty because of doing something bad, they will get in jail and perhaps get punishment from the association. But if they have money to bribe the officers, they can free from anything, and they can still do another bad thing.

I would be okay if there's already the result of the investigation, at least we will know if they are really guilty, on them getting jail, I think it's gonna be a long process if the accused people would fight on the lawsuit against them.

We need to wait and see for the result because perhaps they are still trying to search for more proof and need more time to process everything. They will get jail somehow, especially if they are really guilty, but we need to be patient and let the officers work their best until that time. We hope that guilty people can get their punishment because of what they did.

But the rigging of sports is not easy to eliminate, and it will happen more and more. I wonder how the honest officers will clean the mess and investigate every rigging case in the sports.

It's the players who are involved here, they are making an obvious rigging of sport in this specific game.

We hope that the player does not do the wrong thing so they can clean from the investigation.

[blockman]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

I haven't seen any latest update on this but only this article.
(https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1891734/Cebu/Sports/Chooks-to-Go-to-pull-support-from-VisMin-Cup-if-erring-parties-are-not-sanctioned)

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

There's no such update and I think they're trying to kill this issue so that things would just come back to normal. But upon searching more, this is on the wikipedia and some were expelled and banned.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Pilipinas_VisMin_Super_Cup_scandal)

[Oasisman]

It's been over a month since the incident happen, do we have an update regarding this?

I haven't seen any latest update on this but only this article.
(https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1891734/Cebu/Sports/Chooks-to-Go-to-pull-support-from-VisMin-Cup-if-erring-parties-are-not-sanctioned)

What happens to the team and what happened to the players who participated in the alleged sports fixing?

Are they proven guilty or what?

There's no such update and I think they're trying to kill this issue so that things would just come back to normal. But upon searching more, this is on the wikipedia and some were expelled and banned.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Pilipinas_VisMin_Super_Cup_scandal)

Thats correct, there are no updates after some players got suspended and fined. Most probably this issue has now been closed. They immediately solve this case so the league could also resume after the controversy.
Both team are now playing, and some players are banned and most likely has been revoked with professional athlete license.

Since there are no more updates about this issue, I'm now locking this thread.
Thanks everyone for dropping your opinions. Much appreciated.