An obvious rigging of Sports.

[LTU_btc]

A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

Yes, bet on over 3.5 goals on this game looks reasonsble, despite that Shakhtar were playing quite shitty. But as I understand, number of bets made on over 3.5 goals was significantly bigger than on casual similar level game, what made it to look suspicious.

[iTradeChips]

I just remembered watching the match again for some dose of cringe. I really am dismayed by the performance of the Gray team (Siquijor Mystics). Imagine, never in the video did I see free throws actually went into the basket. I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose. But why did the gray team was sacked out of the league and not the Lapu lapu team - the Yellow team? I mean it was the gray team that got lost right? Yellow should also be sacked from the league.

[Betwrong]

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A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

You are right, Shakhtar is much stronger than Minaj, just look at the result of their previous game:



Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

[blockman]

I just remembered watching the match again for some dose of cringe. I really am dismayed by the performance of the Gray team (Siquijor Mystics). Imagine, never in the video did I see free throws actually went into the basket.

That's the obvious and funny part, their intention is really to miss those free throws. Even Shaquille who's not really good in free throws can have those chances to even at least 1 or 2 shoots but with them, they've missed most of those.

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

[Woodie]

Their basketball governing body should be probed to find out why this is happening right under their nose, if it will go as far as making the teams or players involved pay a fine that will be an assuring move to discourage the same match fixing conduct from happening again.

Hope this does not take investigations to go on forever.

[adzino]

Lmao, the gameplay was so obvious that they were doing this on purpose. Even having an off night wouldn't make your play look like some kids that just started playing basketball. I think there was actually some fishy business involved (and like being something related to sports betting) and they were getting paid really good for rigging the game. The officials did perfectly notice it. Lol, they should have done better and not be very obvious.
And this isn't something new. Riggings happen and has been happening forever. Money can make anyone do anything.

[Vaculin]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

[blockman]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

[Rruchi man]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

[Fredomago]

I am not sure if they were paid so by the Yellow team so that they would lose.

When something like that happens and their acts are obvious, there's only one thing that you can think of. They've sold the game, it's either to their opponent or those huge bettors in bookies.

They sold it, but since it's so obvious, it didn't help them after all because the game was stopped and no betting result happen, it resulted to a push in betting sites and they don't benefit of this rig game, instead they face a serious problem when they go investigated.

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

Probably that's going to happened after the cooldown they'll be back and do the business again, or someone will replace them and this illegal activities will continue.

They'll just going to prevent to make things happened again, they'll be more careful now and make things as normal as it can be.

We really don't know but the possibilities still there as they are use doing it they are not new to this kind of business.

[KTChampions]

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A muddy story. But isn't Shakhtar so much stronger than the second team that a bet on the number of goals over 3.5 looks quite reasonable? I am not an expert in Ukrainian football, but from the outside this story looks far-fetched. Maybe the excitement around this match was created for some other reasons that we do not yet know.

You are right, Shakhtar is much stronger than Minaj, just look at the result of their previous game:

https://i.imgur.com/5PKtV7r.png

Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

I wonder how Minaj team players explained their behavior? It seems to me that the team had some serious problems and information about this went outside the club, so many bettors expected a major defeat. I don't think there was any dishonest agreement or intention to lose the game on purpose with a large score.

[el kaka22]

^^I think that's the weird part. You could always bribe someone and get a guaranteed game, like yeah sure that team should lose if that's done and I get that, not approve it but rigging in sports do happen and that's alright. However one thing is for sure, even if you are going to lose, at least lose while looking like you are trying, hell I would say play to win and maybe you will lose anyway? And if you don't, if the scores are too close, fake the part on defense and not on offense, let the other team score easier and act as if you were fouled on defense, call for a hooking, basically do all the faking on defense and just act normal on offense.

At least in that case when someone asks you could say "hey we scored this much points!! Why would we sell a game that we scored this much!!" which would be a good defense. These were just some idiots, they were so bad they didn't know how to sell a game out.

[Oasisman]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

We knew about rigging and yeah there's nothing we can do about it, but at least we have to make ourselves aware of, of how these sports facilitators are trying to rig a game. We can't stop talking about it. I know rigging won't stop, but at least by talking about it, we can make them rig a game in the hardest way unnoticeable.
Rigging a sport/game in gambling is comparable to market manipulators who's trying to manipulate the price movement of a specific altcoin. We all know something like this would always happen and it's good for us to make ourselves aware of and be more cautious in placing a bet or putting your money for investments.

[LTU_btc]

Taking this into account, the final score of the game, 4:0 in favor of Shakhtar, doesn't look that strange. So, maybe this particular game wasn't fixed. However, something looks fishy about it. I read, 2 hours before the game Minaj players were saying they were not going to the stadium. Then they arrived to the stadium, with a delay of 40 minutes, and there was info that players closed themselves in the locker room, saying they were not going to play.

Yeah, result isn't strange, but things in betting markets were not usual. There was huge bets made on over 3.5 goals, like $300k or $500k. Unfortunately, I can find only russian article about  it: https://ua.tribuna.com/football/1096858915-aleksandr-denisov-stavki-na-match-minaj-shaxter-byli-po-300-500-tysyac.html
Also, unofficial team manager Oleksandr Sevidov, who started to work in Minaj just month ago is currently banned from footbal for 5 years for being involved in match fixing. Coincidence? I don't think so. Officially he works as advisor in the team, since he aren't allowed to manage team.

I wonder how Minaj team players explained their behavior? It seems to me that the team had some serious problems and information about this went outside the club, so many bettors expected a major defeat. I don't think there was any dishonest agreement or intention to lose the game on purpose with a large score.

One their player that game was delayed because their bus arrived to the stadium too late. Other said that they didn't wanted to play and risk their reputation in case if they will suffer big loss. Team manager in press conference that he only want to talk about game and allegation about fixing is nonsense.

[Silberman]

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

Correct, this happens everywhere, I remember seeing some games at the soccer World Cup that I immediately thought were fixed as it was too obvious that both teams were trying to push the final score in a certain direction, most of the time this was on the groups stage of the World Cup and this happened when one of the favorite teams to win the tournament was in trouble and the other teams were not one of the favorites, it is obvious that under those circumstances the FIFA would prefer the favorite team to go forward so it is possible the game could have been rigged by the FIFA and not an external party.

[Fatunad]

The reason why we see the problem of rigging games more commonly in a league or sport that does not generate a lot of money is precisely because of that, the money, however someone that is powerful enough can rig games of the highest caliber, for example in the sport of baseball there has been many incidents in which even the World Series is believed to be rigged and many other instances in which this was corroborated so I would not be surprised if this keeps happening all over the world.

Somethings behind about those rigging games on World cup or tourneys is something that has really the money to do so.This isnt talking about small amounts but multi-millions
which those players or management do really agreed upon because they do know on how much they would benefit out but i dont believe that it would be applicable for anybody
due to some ego issues but when we do already talk about big amounts then this is where the story starts.

Rigging games is everywhere and some of them is undetectable and believing that they are indeed real gameplays without any mix of being rigged .

Correct, this happens everywhere, I remember seeing some games at the soccer World Cup that I immediately thought were fixed as it was too obvious that both teams were trying to push the final score in a certain direction, most of the time this was on the groups stage of the World Cup and this happened when one of the favorite teams to win the tournament was in trouble and the other teams were not one of the favorites, it is obvious that under those circumstances the FIFA would prefer the favorite team to go forward so it is possible the game could have been rigged by the FIFA and not an external party.

So as fans, we should really be observant if somethings odd is happening and we arent that blind on not to notice something so lets just deal with it.

There would be corresponding consequences into those illegal actions that would be done so its up to theirs if they would risk out or not but theyre
aware on what would be in exchange once caught.Money is the main factor on why these rigged games do exist, bribe or fixing out for more money
is something shouldnt be tolerated.

[BuNga_cute]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

We knew about rigging and yeah there's nothing we can do about it, but at least we have to make ourselves aware of, of how these sports facilitators are trying to rig a game. We can't stop talking about it. I know rigging won't stop, but at least by talking about it, we can make them rig a game in the hardest way unnoticeable.
Rigging a sport/game in gambling is comparable to market manipulators who's trying to manipulate the price movement of a specific altcoin. We all know something like this would always happen and it's good for us to make ourselves aware of and be more cautious in placing a bet or putting your money for investments.

Rigging definitely happens in the world of sports and there is nothing we can do about it, even with the harsh penalties imposed on the parties
involved in rigging. This does not stop the rigging from happening, there are always reports every year that some sports competitions have rigging.
As you have said, we as ordinary people can only talk about it, without being able to prevent rigging from happening. Therefore it is very important
for us to be careful in placing bets, do research on the sports events that we want to make bets.
 

[blockman]

While them facing the charges, those people who are behind it will just disappear for a while and make things cool. And when things are back and cool.
They're going to comeback and those players that became their front would face sanctions, while them, they're roaming freely.

Probably that's going to happened after the cooldown they'll be back and do the business again, or someone will replace them and this illegal activities will continue.

They'll just going to prevent to make things happened again, they'll be more careful now and make things as normal as it can be.

We really don't know but the possibilities still there as they are use doing it they are not new to this kind of business.

Yeah, they will lie low a bit until the dust settles and there's no more talk about it. And when they think that it's already clear and good to go, they'll be back.
But I'm wishing that if it cannot be eradicated then next time there will be lesser until it's fully gone to every league because the players and staff will put first and prove their integrity.

[Saint-loup]

Since the invent of sporting betting and stakes different top companies has seen the industry worth investing in. Sports rigging has been from the onset and i feel there is actually nothing the fans can do about it since we also gamble our favourite athletes and if it comes out positive we end up making huge fortune for ourselves. This shouldn't be a cause for alarm but an eye opener so everyone would gamble with caution knowing fully well the process

Betting has nothing to do with making money from rigged matches, this isn't sport betting, this is called cheating and you can lose all your winnings and being put in jail if you are caught by doing that. It's wrong to say fans and punters can't do anything about that. They can stop supporting and betting on cheating teams.

[STT]

It does look alot like how I'd play, if they were drunk it'd make more sense but yea throw is unfortunately not that uncommon in proposition so vigilance is required.   What is harder to detect is special bets on a certain condition not the outright so much, so a bet on scoring at a certain time or quarter or an amount would be specific give good odds and not be as obvious.