AFRICA: where did they lose it ?

[Call me Fada]

    Africa had been the cradle of civilization since human existence but along the way something happened they lost everything, no power no might no authority, nothing literally nothing, everything was lost all of a sudden the same Africa that was labeled the cradle of civilization was also tagged with incessant racial abuses, violence and attacks.
  Egypt as we all know is the cradle of civilization and it is situated in Africa I don’t want to lay emphasis on how Egypt lost it entirely, but rather how come Africa lost it entirely, para venture the Egyptians lost it at least another African country/state/nation would have risen to collect the mantle of leadership the United States of America is enjoying now. This is not a long thread but just a question from a concerned fellow willing to know why Africa lost the mantle of leadership.
  Meanwhile please I don’t want religious people to come under the comment section to quote the holy book for me/us all , I only need I need philosophical ideas why you think Africa lost it, also don’t misunderstand this piece I’m not saying there’s no African state doing well that’s not the point .

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[Charles-Tim]

Because Africa is full of corrupt leaders, because they do not depend on themselves but on other Continents. See the giant of Africa (Nigeria) that is lacking a lot behind, see the white Africans (North Africa) not capable of latest technologies again. All Africa people know is themselves and their families (nepotism), they do not careful about others (whites and many other countries do care about others). Our leaders that were there when Colonial Masters left the countries that became independent caused what is happening. The so called South Africa is better because the Apartheid makes the whites to mix with blacks, leading the nations to a greater level, that is why they still have the best economy in Africa.

The Continent (Africa) has good agricultural products, plenty mineral resources, what left is for them to use brain to set up countries that will be standard, but they are not capable. This has just being the beggining, if care is not taken, Africa will remain like this and become even more worse.

Africa countries are not capable to make phone products, computer, automobiles and the likes, they lack in technology. Can you even point out any successful coin made by Africa? For any of the Africa country to even get a local board on this forum is a problem. We need to think about the future, correct the mistakes of the past, depends more on our effort, then we will rise.

In Africa, their presidents and governors or anyone on official governmental seat will go abroad (outside Africa) for medical treatment, is that happening in other Continents? No. They are making their homes shit for their generations to come, the rich ones have their children green card abroad, some were even given birth to in abroad, and come back to Africa. These mentalities we are having in Africa has made Africa like this.

I see the work rested on the governments, but governments that its official sick and fly him abroad for treatment, is that the governments that are ready to help? They are just the governments that depends on importation because all they are using are imported, making life miserable for the citizens. With what I am seeing, I do not think any solution is coming soon, unless the young Africans do not be like their father that are there presently, but do you think they will not be like their father and yet make Africa not going forward.

[Mauser]

    Africa had been the cradle of civilization since human existence but along the way something happened they lost everything, no power no might no authority, nothing literally nothing, everything was lost all of a sudden the same Africa that was labeled the cradle of civilization was also tagged with incessant racial abuses, violence and attacks.
  Egypt as we all know is the cradle of civilization and it is situated in Africa I don’t want to lay emphasis on how Egypt lost it entirely, but rather how come Africa lost it entirely, para venture the Egyptians lost it at least another African country/state/nation would have risen to collect the mantle of leadership the United States of America is enjoying now. This is not a long thread but just a question from a concerned fellow willing to know why Africa lost the mantle of leadership.
  Meanwhile please I don’t want religious people to come under the comment section to quote the holy book for me/us all , I only need I need philosophical ideas why you think Africa lost it, also don’t misunderstand this piece I’m not saying there’s no African state doing well that’s not the point .

The problem I see with Africa is that lost their wars in the past and were being subjugated by either Britain or France. Almost all of the African continent was either a colony of one of these two countries. Sure Germany and Italy had some land too but fairly small compared to the other two. The colonies meant that all the local resources were exported to support either France or Britain. There were no big investments in their countries. On top of that were there countries like USA who exported the local population as slave labors. If Africa would have been able to survive on it own and repel all the foreign invasion they would be in a much better position today.

[Charles-Tim]

If Africa would have been able to survive on it own and repel all the foreign invasion they would be in a much better position today.

Did you know the two counties that have the largest economy today (USA and China) were colonized also? But you are right at one side that African countries were not capable to even repel the colonial invasion, which can be a guess reason though. But what about Ethiopia and Liberia that were not colonized? They both yet also still lacking behind today.

[posi]

Because Africa is full of corrupt leaders, because they do not depend on themselves but on other Continents. See the giant of Africa (Nigeria) that is lacking a lot behind, see the white Africans (North Africa) not capable of latest technologies again. All Africa people know is themselves and their families (nepotism), they do not careful about others (whites and many other countries do care about others).

As you said the corruption everywhere within the African leaders and funding an unnecessary project is the reason why Africa lose it and It not that the north, west, east and south Africa are not capable of latest technology most people who are capable mostly travel abroad while those that can't afford to waste their talent. This is also what happen in the sports scheme you will players traveling abroad before they can put their talent and dream to work because every setting controlled by the African government is full of various corruption that's why some people only care about their family. Did you know that a Nigerian borne guy was among the key developer of the Lightning network?

Our leaders that were there when Colonial Masters left the countries that became independent caused what is happening.

If African wait patient before they get independent things will be better than how it is now but the government of today operate the government just like the early politicians does after the independent things will be better but most of the current leaders are greed than their destiny.

The Continent (Africa) has good agricultural products, plenty mineral resources, what left is for them to use brain to set up countries that will be standard, but they are not capable. This has just being the beggining, if care is not taken, Africa will remain like this and become even more worse.

No, they are capable. Let's say they are not capable why didn't they hire someone who's capable? They are only after every means where they can technically steal the country fund that's why African are the countries that use money buy something they have. This remind these words said by an African president.

If the African government can use this mindset and eradicate corruption Africa will have back his lost glory.

[franky1]

19th century africa was more tribal and local law. they didnt really have 'state law'

then politics came in. dividing the land based on political notions not tribal sentiment
politicians started selling the land. without tribal consent. disturbing and displacing peoples villages for corporate profit

damming up the rivers to cater to utility companies for cities, left the land dryer with no natural flow for remote tribes.

mostly it was the land grab politically and from global corporations displacing tribes further away from their natural hunting/farming grounds

then the damming of rivers where only the waste the passes beyond the dams

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ask yourself .. if a village needs to travel 5km a day for water. why did they settle 5km away..
the answer is because they are not allowed to live near the rivers. they were forced out

[Cnut237]

the rivers

The rivers are actually a big part of it. Africa's major rivers are in general less navigable than those on other continents. This impedes development beyond a local level.
Consider also that as the cradle of civilisation, Africa was already occupied... whereas other places were not. Obvious recent example is America... people went from crowded, over-exploited, corrupt old Europe to a pristine land of boundless opportunity (and with navigable rivers).

As for the trouble of modern Africa... these are largely the aftermath of colonialism... with the colonial powers not only bleeding the country dry, but also typically creating a power vacuum when they eventually left. See the tragedy of Rwanda as an example here.

[dalmtainac_sam]

Because they were treated like animals by big European countries.Even now in every country there you have puppet leaders.Africa is holy grail of continents and that will prove in the next 20 years.

[af_newbie]

    Africa had been the cradle of civilization since human existence but along the way something happened they lost everything, no power no might no authority, nothing literally nothing, everything was lost all of a sudden the same Africa that was labeled the cradle of civilization was also tagged with incessant racial abuses, violence and attacks.
  Egypt as we all know is the cradle of civilization and it is situated in Africa I don’t want to lay emphasis on how Egypt lost it entirely, but rather how come Africa lost it entirely, para venture the Egyptians lost it at least another African country/state/nation would have risen to collect the mantle of leadership the United States of America is enjoying now. This is not a long thread but just a question from a concerned fellow willing to know why Africa lost the mantle of leadership.
  Meanwhile please I don’t want religious people to come under the comment section to quote the holy book for me/us all , I only need I need philosophical ideas why you think Africa lost it, also don’t misunderstand this piece I’m not saying there’s no African state doing well that’s not the point .

There is a really good book that answers this question very well.

https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-and-Steel-audiobook/dp/B004JLTPTI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=21BRN4D96WMUW&dchild=1&keywords=jared+diamond&qid=1618843484&sprefix=Jared+Dia%2Caps%2C679&sr=8-1

Not specific to Africa, but all continents were analyzed.

The book discusses why some cultures developed technology faster than others.  Historical analysis, but helpful nevertheless.

Today, I do not see any impediments to progress, whether on a personal or national level. 
Not just in Africa, but anywhere on this rock we call home.

Elimination of autocrats, religions, and other ancient myths, emphasis on education, especially in science and technology can improve the standard of living for an average African.  African cultures need to undergo a cultural shift to enable their societies to be more productive, democratic, and in the end wealthier.  The change needs to come from within.

[Cnut237]

Africa is holy grail of continents and that will prove in the next 20 years.

The next 20 years could well be dominated by the effects of climate change... which will disproportionately affect poorer nations and those subject to population pressures, and those on the climate front-line... in many cases, those countries in Africa. I think this will act as a further inhibitor on the rise of Africa, particularly as many African nations still have rapidly increasing populations.

There's a fascinating dynamic visualisation here detailing each country's progression across the five stage demographic transition model... it's apparent that many African nations are earlier on in the process.

[DigitalFox]

Africa was robbed blind off everything it has for centuries (and it still has a lot) and yet you're still asking where did they "lose" it? They never had a chance...

[Call me Fada]

Because they were treated like animals by big European countries.Even now in every country there you have puppet leaders.Africa is holy grail of continents and that will prove in the next 20 years.

I disagree we weren’t treated like animals we cheated ourselves the enemy is within not far away like we always make it seem to be. I’m sorry to say this but if you get into power you will steal your part of the money and embezzle that’s the mentality yet we keep pointing accusing fingers to those in power. Also the youths of today don’t really participate in politics you know why? Because the old have refused to retire home to rest. It’s pathetic. Africa needs liberation.

[Call me Fada]

Africa is holy grail of continents and that will prove in the next 20 years.

The next 20 years could well be dominated by the effects of climate change... which will disproportionately affect poorer nations and those subject to population pressures, and those on the climate front-line... in many cases, those countries in Africa. I think this will act as a further inhibitor on the rise of Africa, particularly as many African nations still have rapidly increasing populations.

There's a fascinating dynamic visualisation here detailing each country's progression across the five stage demographic transition model... it's apparent that many African nations are earlier on in the process.




So far this was drawn by a man it can be proven wrong at any given time if only Africa comes together as one or better still treats it’s people well by providing the basis and making things/life easy for them Africa entirely would be the next UAE or CHINA. This is not magic we are talking reality here, forget this climate and transition model whatever if African leaders changes their perspectives and how they govern their people In less than no time Africa shall rise and be great again.

[Call me Fada]

If Africa would have been able to survive on it own and repel all the foreign invasion they would be in a much better position today.

Did you know the two counties that have the largest economy today (USA and China) were colonized also? But you are right at one side that African countries were not capable to even repel the colonial invasion, which can be a guess reason though. But what about Ethiopia and Liberia that were not colonized? They both yet also still lacking behind today.
 
  Exactly let’s not apportion blames to our colonial masters Africans love making silly excuses for everything, trying to play politics with everything other great nations that are doing extremely good today were also colonized yet they rise above colony and being just slaves to their master forever. But most African countries still pay homage to their colonial masters till today, for example Nigeria 🇳🇬  Britain 🇬🇧 still decides for the government of Nigeria they still work hand in hand with the same British government that enslaved its people, the Nigerian president even go there for relaxation and medical care pathetic 💔.

[blackened515]

If you take a look at Africa before colonialism. You will observe that the continent was doing great before colonialism took place.
They had enough to eat, they were living in joy and harmony. But Africa lost it when the white masters came to control  their lands and lives. They became slaves, those who refuse to obey the orders were killed.
That is what is affecting Africa, they are been controlled. I think Africa can do more better if they becomes independent.

[bryant.coleman]

This sums up what happened in Africa:

In short, the colonizers took everything of use from the African continent and then indirectly enslaved the native population by propagating two semitic religions. Now the Africans are the biggest defenders of these two religions, ready to die to defend their overlords in Vatican and Mecca.

[Call me Fada]

If you take a look at Africa before colonialism. You will observe that the continent was doing great before colonialism took place.
They had enough to eat, they were living in joy and harmony. But Africa lost it when the white masters came to control  their lands and lives. They became slaves, those who refuse to obey the orders were killed.
That is what is affecting Africa, they are been controlled. I think Africa can do more better if they becomes independent.

I am the one

it’s crystal clear now to all that Africa isn’t independent just as they claim to be the western world knows this bitter truth that Africa can’t do anything without them that’s why they continue to exploit  us like I have said before Africa needs to learn how to own up to its flaws and mistakes and get it done and corrected without blaming it’s colonial masters. Togetherness, transparency and sincerity needs to be cultured into the lives of its people.

[Call me Fada]

This sums up what happened in Africa:

In short, the colonizers took everything of use from the African continent and then indirectly enslaved the native population by propagating two semitic religions. Now the Africans are the biggest defenders of these two religions, ready to die to defend their overlords in Vatican and Mecca.

I am the one
 Indeed Africans are  the greatest defendants of religion practices the way they worship and adhere to religious beliefs and doctrines will make one wonder at a point if they’re the originators of this religion. In Africa Muslim/Islamic faithfuls kills people randomly all in the name of there are ten virgins awaiting them.that’s why I’m any terrorist organization/groups you will find Muslim faithfuls than any other religion. Yes I agree the foreigners outsmarted us they cheated us. And this is a wake up call. We can still do this Arise o compatriots.

[Cnut237]

This sums up what happened in Africa

This brings us back to my point about Africa suffering from excessive population growth. This is partly due to the 5 stage development cycle, but also certainly due in large part to catholic missionaries... they 'converted' the African population as part of the colonialist drive to establish control... and of course the catholic church bans contraception. The refusal due to western indoctrination to use contraception leads directly to a population increase, which in many cases these countries can't support... which in turn contributes to poverty, malnutrition and starvation. The pope and the catholic church are responsible for a huge amount of suffering on the African continent.

[jrrsparkles]

Africa is not a single country but it is having abundant natural resources which are still being stolen by wealthy nations and also their human resource. Their leaders are one of the main reason why they become like this, they allow people to steal everything while getting money in return so Africa becomes poor while their leaders are getting rich. There is no job opportunities which also made the people to get into the evil way to be honest so if they want to change then the change should be from everywhere.