⚽ The European Super League ( ESL) Updates, Europe Futbul Odds & Predictions ⚽

[Igebotz]

This is an open thread to discuss the proposed European Super League News, Europe Futbul News, Odds and Predictions.




12 football clubs already announced an agreement to join the the Super League competition.

1. AC Milan
2. Arsenal
3. Atlético
4. Chelsea
5. Barcelona
6. Internationale
7. Juventus
8. Liverpool
9. Manchester City
10. Manchester United
11. Real Madrid
12. Tottenham
13. X
14. X
15. X

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[Igebotz]

Players who participated in the European Super Cup will be banned from playing in the World cup and Euros

...UEFA President

The creation of the European super cup has indeed created  a division amount the football communities and different leagues as some of the bigger European clubs are set to boycott the existing Local league, Champions league and Europa league to form a more super strong league among themselves. In the other hands clubs from Germany and France has turned down the proposal, there are 15 slots in total whereby 12 space has been filled so far.

The UEFA are totally against it and from his words as I quote;

"All players that play in the Super League will be banned from playing in the Euros and the World Cup."

[Lakai01]

I absolutely cannot imagine UEFA putting up with that. This would make competitions like the Euro League and the Champions League obsolete in one fell swoop.
I also find the composition of the Super League very "interesting", e.g. with Bayern and Paris SG 2 absolute top clubs in Europe are missing, instead teams would play here that would not even have realistic chances of winning a title in their national leagues - let alone in a Euro or Champions League.

In my opinion, the project is doomed to failure and will certainly not take place.

[Lucius]

I assumed that the main motive for founding a league like this was just money, and I don't think that's far from the truth from what I've read on various portals that analyze what this league could bring to clubs in terms of profit. Of course UEFA rebelled against that because it is a direct blow to the Champions League which of course they control and then share the profits between themselves and the clubs.

However, Sky Sports News reporter Kaveh Solhekol says this has come about now for one reason, and one reason only.
"I keep saying it is about money, and if you look at the finances, a club like Man Utd playing in the Champions League, they make between £40m and £80m on a good year if they win it," he said.
"If they play in this new competition, they get a cheque for £250m-£300m to begin with, then in the future they will get three times as much money a season as they get from the Champions League.
"You are looking at £200m-£250m in TV rights, they will be able to sell some of the rights to the games themselves on their own channels, the broadcast rights all over the world."

This is a classic rebellion of clubs against UEFA because they think they are not getting enough money, but I do not believe that this league will be able to start just like that, especially because for now German and French clubs refuse to participate.

[tomahawk9]

Players who participated in the European Super Cup will be banned from playing in the World cup and Euros

players will not leave their clubs [to not be part of the ESL] cos they're under contract, and if even if they were able to leave, they wouldn't go to the clubs not participating in this Super League cos those tier 2 clubs don't have the money to pay super stars wages unlike the 12 founding members of the ESL, plus it's very unlikely that the super stars would want to take a paycut just to play in Sevilla or West Ham or Sassuolo in order to play in their national teams.

The ESL has the upper hand in all of this, UEFA and FIFA know it, so now these two org are trying to pressure the players but it's unlikely they'd do anything cos they want to keep food on the table by making 8 figues every year

all in all, this is a dick measuring contest between power-hungry greedy organizations (uefa and fifa) and power-hungry greedy club owners (Madrid, ManU, Juve, etc)...kind of a shitty situation but we'll see how it plays out

[Igebotz]

I absolutely cannot imagine UEFA putting up with that. This would make competitions like the Euro League and the Champions League obsolete in one fell swoop.

The competition would be a total shit without the European big guns just imagine the champions league with the likes of Burnley, Westham, Wolves and Everton from the premier league and the likes of Gatefe, Elber, Lavente coming from the Laliga to compete. The Tv right and the value would be gone.

In my opinion, the project is doomed to failure and will certainly not take place.

I think the project is just a wake up call for the UEFA to do more in terms of finance, because the money involved in the UEFA competition is very poor compared to that of the proposed super league.

[Stevcummings]

Players who participated in the European Super Cup will be banned from playing in the World cup and Euros

...UEFA President

The creation of the European super cup has indeed created  a division amount the football communities and different leagues as some of the bigger European clubs are set to boycott the existing Local league, Champions league and Europa league to form a more super strong league among themselves. In the other hands clubs from Germany and France has turned down the proposal, there are 15 slots in total whereby 12 space has been filled so far.

The UEFA are totally against it and from his words as I quote;

"All players that play in the Super League will be banned from playing in the Euros and the World Cup."

UEFA, FIFA and other other FA's should realise the situation is tougher now,  the next step is to talk to the rebellious European Leagues advocates, I don’t think threats are not a civilised way of resolving issues. The European League formation has been on the cards for some time but the same organisations issuing threats now have always been dismissive of the idea and never bothered to listen to the other party. Why resort to banning players instead of banning the formation of this league, maybe there's no legal ground to stop its formation and operations? If it is the case then veiled threats and bans are too little too late!

[Saint-loup]

In my opinion, the project is doomed to failure and will certainly not take place.

I think the project is just a wake up call for the UEFA to do more in terms of finance, because the money involved in the UEFA competition is very poor compared to that of the proposed super league.

I don't understand why you've opened this thread if you really think this so-called "project" will never take place? It sounds a little bit ridiculous. Personally I don't think it's just blackmail from big clubs to put pressure on UEFA, I think they really want to put on feet this new organization and I don't think FIFA or UEFA have the right to prohibit players from participating to their national selection, courts would surely reverse those kind of bans.

[cygan]

here is a very nice overview of the clubs with their squad value that participate in the super league...
3 places are still free - should probably be given to german clubs, which then refused it...

[boltz]

It might be early but let me say that I have a feeling for years now that something like this will happen but I never wanted to split away from UEFA but in the same I love to have a championship with all this giants playing every weekend. As a fan of football, I hope both UEFA and ESL will find a way to keep the players away so they won't be affected if they want to play in World Cup or similar international cups.

[Soonandwaite]

this super league is almost like all the scam sites on telegram and pancakeswap !!!! just to generate money. the clubs just want to earn more money.
i think it's good that some very good teams from europe boycott this super league. it's just too much football.
and then the champions league is to be extended from 32 to 36 teams.
then the teams will have less and less time and the players will hardly have time to regenerate.
i'm really curious to see how it all develops in the next few weeks and months.

[Lorokan]

this super league is almost like all the scam sites on telegram and pancakeswap !!!! just to generate money. the clubs just want to earn more money.
i think it's good that some very good teams from europe boycott this super league. it's just too much football.
and then the champions league is to be extended from 32 to 36 teams.
then the teams will have less and less time and the players will hardly have time to regenerate.
i'm really curious to see how it all develops in the next few weeks and months.

The super league is not a scam lol; and it should not be compared to one. The reality meanwhile is that the super league is a greedy motive intended to fund only the pockets of the big teams selfishly; UEFA are also looking after only their pockets, which makes it very difficult for fans, supporters and the small teams. What do you think will happen ? will the clubside succumb authority to UEFA or have their way ?

[mamesso]

The European Super League has been inaugurated. 12 teams have agreed, according to the Daily Mail Bayern Munchen and Porto will soon join the European Super League, it is hoped there will be 1 more team to participate before the first season starts, Florentino Perez will be President (LSE) with his deputy Joel Glazer from the Manchester United side.

With this inauguration, clubs participating in the European Super League face the threat of being expelled from competitions under UEFA, because this competition did not have the blessing of FIFA. UEFA confirmed that it will exclude teams participating in the European Super League and they are also prohibited from playing in UCL/UEL.
This statement is very beneficial for PSG, because Paris Saint-Germain will be crowned Champions of the Champions League this season for not participating in the European Super League participation, Teams that are still in the Champions League this season apart from Paris Saint-Germain will be automatically excluded from the Champions League.

FIFA also said that it would prohibit players from competing for the national team in the World Cup or other tournaments (under FIFA).  UEFA will also demand the participating teams around 50-60 billion Euros.

[Saint-loup]

The European Super League has been inaugurated. 12 teams have agreed, according to the Daily Mail Bayern Munchen and Porto will soon join the European Super League, it is hoped there will be 1 more team to participate before the first season starts, Florentino Perez will be President (LSE) with his deputy Joel Glazer from the Manchester United side.

With this inauguration, clubs participating in the European Super League face the threat of being expelled from competitions under UEFA, because this competition did not have the blessing of FIFA. UEFA confirmed that it will exclude teams participating in the European Super League and they are also prohibited from playing in UCL/UEL.
This statement is very beneficial for PSG, because Paris Saint-Germain will be crowned Champions of the Champions League this season for not participating in the European Super League participation, Teams that are still in the Champions League this season apart from Paris Saint-Germain will be automatically excluded from the Champions League.

FIFA also said that it would prohibit players from competing for the national team in the World Cup or other tournaments (under FIFA).  UEFA will also demand the participating teams around 50-60 billion Euros.

LOL you shouldn't dream too much like that, the kick off of the European Super League won't happen in the coming weeks and teams still belonging to the UEFA Champions League won't participate to it before the end of the tournament. They're not crazy, they won't take the risk to be banned from the final of the Champions League or the Europa League just for one or two starting matchdays in this totally new competition.

[Trofo]

The super league is not a scam lol; and it should not be compared to one.

Of course it is not a scam but it is blatant money grab to make rich even richer. Football should be played because of the supporters and situations like this one perfectly show it is only about the money. Really curios to see how it will all pan out.


By the way, we now have 6 new topics talking about ESL. Good job on checking the forum a bit before opening them    Don't know which one was first, I posted in this one since it looked slightly better then most. Now we need one mod to come here and join them all together.

[LTU_btc]

I still hope that SuperLeague won't turn into reality. I'm disapoointed that my club Barcelona is part of it. "More than a club" they say, but they don't give a f*ck about supporters opinion, everything is just about money. This is why I don't like modern football.
I'm a bit suprised that PSG will not join this league. But I really appreciate their, Bayern and Borussia position.

BTW, what are your thoughts about UEFA reaction and new Champions league format? For me it looks strange and I doubt it will stop teams from joining SuperLeague. And it will go ahead just in 2024, while SuperLeagueis supposed to begin this year.

By the way, we now have 6 new topics talking about ESL. Good job on checking the forum a bit before opening them    Don't know which one was first, I posted in this one since it looked slightly better then most. Now we need one mod to come here and join them all together.

I noticed it too, gambling board look messy now. It would be nice if we discuss it in single topic.

[tyz]

So, there are missing three teams. I would guess that these teams are Bayern Munich, Borussia Dormund and Paris St. Germain. That makes sense, because teams from two big countries missing from the Super League so far are Germany and France. In the medium term, it will be expanded to 18 or 20 teams anyway.

[Trofo]

So, there are missing three teams. I would guess that these teams are Bayern Munich, Borussia Dormund and Paris St. Germain. That makes sense, because teams from two big countries missing from the Super League so far are Germany and France. In the medium term, it will be expanded to 18 or 20 teams anyway.

I think I read somewhere that Dortmund and PSG already turned them down and that Bayern is expected to do the same. Could be that they are doing that because of the supporters and their respective leagues or maybe they have their own reasons. We are living in exiting times for sure.

[acquafredda]

From now on I will be supporting Bayern Munich!
Germany’s rules on fan ownership, known as 50%+1 for the voting stake which members must have, pose a problem for the Super League.
German fans could in theory block their clubs from being involved. Bayern was due to have its annual general meeting last week but it was postponed to the end of the year because of the coronavirus pandemic. Bayern members have a 75% stake in the company which runs the team. The rest is held by sponsors.
https://www.si.com/soccer/2021/04/19/european-super-league-psg-bayern-munich-borussia-dortmund

[tomahawk9]

I'm disapoointed that my club Barcelona is part of it. "More than a club" they say, but they don't give a f*ck about supporters opinion, everything is just about money.

yeah, i wonder why they need more money rn, oh i know, terrible management for years and this: https://as.com/futbol/2021/01/30/primera/1612047093_780978.html

I'm a bit suprised that PSG will not join this league. But I really appreciate their, Bayern and Borussia position.

Nasser Al-Khelaifi, Qatar, FIFA and the World Cup 2022...ring any bells?
Bayern prolly knew the repercussion behind it and decided to stay put until everything gets sorted out, no way they'll miss out on the money behind a Super League, everything's about money when these big clubs are involved and Bayern will join if everyone reaches an agreement. Dortmund, no idea why they declined, maybe they know they won't stand a chance in a super league? lol