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April 20, 2021, 05:50:43 PM
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy

Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL. I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.
I’m also a Gunner, but mate this clubs involvement is beyond just the players or fans. The club owners are roundly business minded men, all they care about is MONEY and MONEY. I think UEFA should negotiate with the founders of this ESL and propose a shift in earnings and to avoid the destruction of more than a century of tradition and bring our beloved game into disrepute.
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Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL. I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.

I think that they earn enough money as it is, so it's should decide not money. So far, the idea seems doomed to fail. I am an adherent of old traditions and personally to me, this idea does not like.

 
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April 20, 2021, 06:48:17 PM
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. Kids always wish of winning the champions league and world cup and those greedy people are gone a take it away from them. Just greedy
The European Super League is only the idea of ​​a few obsessed people to increase their fortunes, Just look at how FIFA rejects the presence of LSE and some football legends do not support it. The presence of LSE created a new conflict in the world of football, and the impact is those players who compete in LSE cannot strengthen their country in the world cup.


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April 20, 2021, 07:02:49 PM
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This tournament must NOT happen or probobly the end for football itself. 

Skysport news just confirmed that Chelsea Football Club are preparing legal documents to withdraw from the European Super League (ESL); while it is also reported that Manchester City will also follow ensuit and withdraw; with great joy; i think the European Super League (ESL) has been suspended and banned and would not hold. Woodward has also reportedly resigned at his post for Manchester United; good victory for football and Manchester united fan.

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April 20, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
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Another puritan view! ESL is just a repackaged and re-branded version of European club football games. The concept is very similar to what has been done in cricket as T20 or the famous IPL game. Now the time has come to football to make it more exciting.

Due to the covid situation, the stadium games are in the brink of collapse. The incomes from various endorsements are drying out. So the ESL is simply a survival strategy where people will be more interested and the money will start rolling. Be adaptable to changes brother!
I'm not familiar with cricket, so I can't talk about it. But concept of ESL is good for 15 founding clubs only - they think about themselves only. While for remaining European football it means collapse.
Also, does it makes sense when clubs can play in ESL no matter of their results in national league? What's point of EPL when Arsenal who only 9th still can play in ESL.
Managers of these clubs like Pep, Klopp, players are also against this league.

U think he was talking about the UEFA Champions League and he may be right, from the past two years the level of corruption has crippled the league, from the officiating down to the finances, participating clubs are being robbed, given a little amount while UEFA keep the big sum in their purse, the passion for the game was certainly fading.
I'm not sure what are you talking about. UEFA share huge money with clubs and these money is getting bigger each year.
UEFA isn't perfect, but Perez and co isn't sacred cow too.

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As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.

it would be simply unbelievable to see this happening, and on the other hand, it is the only chance for PSG to take the title Smiley
nevertheless, UEFA making this step will make football destined to basketball situation few years ago, with two FIBA Superleague and Euroleague, where it is clear who will win

there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
There is some difference. Euroleague alreadywas main basketball league in Europe, while FIBA tried to attract clubs to their new league by blackmailing them, threatening to ban clubs from national leagues and players from national teams.


After such huge negative reaction, it's good to see that few clubs may change their mind.
I think most already saw Perez interview, where IMO he said lot of bulshit. Changing game length from 45 to 30 minutes sounds bad for me. Wouldn't be surprised if they would add commercial breaks during the game for TV.
What's next, remove offsides?

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April 20, 2021, 07:32:48 PM
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Another puritan view! ESL is just a repackaged and re-branded version of European club football games. The concept is very similar to what has been done in cricket as T20 or the famous IPL game. Now the time has come to football to make it more exciting.

Due to the covid situation, the stadium games are in the brink of collapse. The incomes from various endorsements are drying out. So the ESL is simply a survival strategy where people will be more interested and the money will start rolling. Be adaptable to changes brother!
I'm not familiar with cricket, so I can't talk about it. But concept of ESL is good for 15 founding clubs only - they think about themselves only. While for remaining European football it means collapse.
Also, does it makes sense when clubs can play in ESL no matter of their results in national league? What's point of EPL when Arsenal who only 9th still can play in ESL.
Managers of these clubs like Pep, Klopp, players are also against this league.

U think he was talking about the UEFA Champions League and he may be right, from the past two years the level of corruption has crippled the league, from the officiating down to the finances, participating clubs are being robbed, given a little amount while UEFA keep the big sum in their purse, the passion for the game was certainly fading.
I'm not sure what are you talking about. UEFA share huge money with clubs and these money is getting bigger each year.
UEFA isn't perfect, but Perez and co isn't sacred cow too.

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As said Jesper Moller who is a member of the UEFA Executive Committee. UEFA will take strict sanctions for every club that follows the European Super League, and they will be banned from playing in all UEFA competitions.
The same sanctions also apply in the Europa League, MU and Arsenal are Super League club that still play in the Europa League.

it would be simply unbelievable to see this happening, and on the other hand, it is the only chance for PSG to take the title Smiley
nevertheless, UEFA making this step will make football destined to basketball situation few years ago, with two FIBA Superleague and Euroleague, where it is clear who will win

there is no way for fans to merit UEFA competition more than European Super league, no matter how it is called, it is a matter of football quality
There is some difference. Euroleague alreadywas main basketball league in Europe, while FIBA tried to attract clubs to their new league by blackmailing them, threatening to ban clubs from national leagues and players from national teams.


After such huge negative reaction, it's good to see that few clubs may change their mind.
I think most already saw Perez interview, where IMO he said lot of bulshit. Changing game length from 45 to 30 minutes sounds bad for me. Wouldn't be surprised if they would add commercial breaks during the game for TV.
What's next, remove offsides?

The super league looks like a joke if indeed the players won't be able to participate in national leagues, FIFA organised matches and national teams.
The automatic qualification of the foundation teams every season is another wrong measurement for the super league.It will limit the quality of rivalries among teams in national leagues. However, I am sure this will be sorted out by FIFA soon
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April 20, 2021, 07:47:58 PM
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Strange things happening in the world of football:

-Jose sacked over ESL

-Chelsea fans protesting

-Barcelona rumored to have pulled out

-Ed Woodward has stepped down as executive vice chairman of Manchester United


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Manchester City official withdraw from the European super league following the earlier protest in London by Chelsea fans and other football lovers demanding their club to have some dignity and let go of greed. Chelsea are also considering dumping the ESL in the next few hours. Manutd, Arsenal and Liverpool might also take the bold step.

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April 20, 2021, 09:50:39 PM
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Manchester City official withdraw from the European super league following the earlier protest in London by Chelsea fans and other football lovers demanding their club to have some dignity and let go of greed. Chelsea are also considering dumping the ESL in the next few hours. Manutd, Arsenal and Liverpool might also take the bold step.

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Official statement. Manchester City Football Club can confirm that it has formally enacted the procedures to withdraw from the group developing plans for a European Super League.
Domino pieces are falling one by one? I think it is healthier to see a reasonable ESL with another format better and more equitable than this imo. Wonder know how Perez is feeling right now Roll Eyes

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April 20, 2021, 09:55:35 PM
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Totally. I was shocked to see my club Arsenal being one of sthe founding clubs. I am really switching my club to some other maybe Leeds if I see them playing in ESL.

Manchester United is also part of this fiasco and Im not happy with it as well but not to the point that I would find another club to support. I will still watch them if they play in ESL though but Im totally not happy with this

I am kinda sure that players from these teams will also strongly oppose the idea of their club participation in this but right now nothing is clear.

Yeah but there is nothing that these players can do. They are bound with their their contract and will need to play for the club if needed to, otherwise they will be sacrificing their career by sitting in the bench

I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.

Probably but the ESL will be securing atleast $4.2 Billion from JP Morgan in case if it runs. The winner of the ESL will receive 400 millions euros and thats alot more compared with what Champions League offered.

 
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April 20, 2021, 09:58:07 PM
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The idea of the super league is nothing short of money from the way I see it. We already have a lot of competitions in the leagues both local and international as we see it now, its not like in most leagues, some teams a particular team are expressing continual dominance as we see it in the Bundesliga. That isn't the case in most especially, the EPL, in the Italian Serie A we can see Inter Milan to have come up and top the league, in Laliga we have Atletico Madrid and it keeps going on and on.

So, the idea of a super league is unwarranted as its only going to be about the funds for the league organisers and the clubs.

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April 20, 2021, 10:10:50 PM
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I can only say one thing: If they do this , they can earn money as much as they want but they won't earn fans support or respect ever.

Probably but the ESL will be securing atleast $4.2 Billion from JP Morgan in case if it runs. The winner of the ESL will receive 400 millions euros and thats alot more compared with what Champions League offered.

Just imagine, if they earn such a big money from ESL how much they can pay for players? And how much it will cost players like Haaland, Sancho or any other high-class player from teams out of the ESL?
and now it is so when Manchester United/City or Real, or Barcelona was interested in any player, then is the price going up to x2 because they have money to pay valuable players. In the end, all of their money will lend up to small clubs. we all know that big clubs don’t have time to develop young players.
then we will probably have more players like Bale, who's seated on the bench and get a high salary for nothing.

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April 20, 2021, 10:18:10 PM
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Official statement. Manchester City Football Club can confirm that it has formally enacted the procedures to withdraw from the group developing plans for a European Super League.
Domino pieces are falling one by one? I think it is healthier to see a reasonable ESL with another format better and more equitable than this imo. Wonder know how Perez is feeling right now Roll Eyes
Something good do not come easily, this is another experimental gone wrong he had a great ideal but the timing was so wrong, why not wait till end of the season knowing fully well that most of the founding clubs are still in the champions league. He did himself proud nothing to be ashamed of.

The major aim of the ESL was to assist clubs in financial meltdown.
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IT is over, its fun to see while 2 days ago was a yes and now they are all leaving.

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April 20, 2021, 11:41:50 PM
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All Premier league clubs followed the likes of Man City and they officially withdraw from the Super League .
we are apparently facing two roads .
the first is the withdrawal of all clubs in the event there is a new negotiation channel with the European Union .
the second is the withdrawal of everyone except Real and Juve, and consequently great penalties and great indignation from everyone
The hours until the morning will be critical.
I think the UEFA offered something to the clubs in the Premier League so they withdraw from this when you look at a Arsenal or Spurs they don't have a lot to lose if they continued and maybe negotiated bit more.
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Telegraph Sport reports "Now Florentino Perez is in big trouble. If ESL fails to play, then Real Madrid can not be able to compete in Europe as long Florentino Perez as President of Real Madrid". If Real Madrid still wants to play in European competition, Florentino Perez had to resign from his post as President of Real Madrid.
As reported (Independent) Florentino Perez will soon resign from his position as president of Real Madrid. Because he is under a lot of pressure because of such a big ambition.

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I don't know why so many people are against this idea of the European Super League ( ESL). The best teams need to play against each other. I don't understand what Manchester United gains by playing against a team like Sheffield United, or Real Madrid gains by playing against Huesca. What is the point in these lop-sided matches? And that is why they came up with the ESL, which seems to be a good idea and a treat for the football fans. The opposition to this is emotionally driven and unjustified.

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IT is over, its fun to see while 2 days ago was a yes and now they are all leaving.
The penalty is much they never expected it to be this complicated, UEFA gave them till Friday to back down or risk being kicked out of the completion for life and also players in the ESL can't participate in the Euros or Worldcup either, now you can see why the IT needed to end.

I don't know why so many people are against this idea of the European Super League ( ESL). The best teams need to play against each other. I don't understand what Manchester United gains by playing against a team like Sheffield United, or Real Madrid gains by playing against Huesca. What is the point in these lop-sided matches? 
This is the reason we have the UEFA Champions league where the bigger teams play each other around the world. What else do you want? A football played for 60mins?
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I don't know why so many people are against this idea of the European Super League ( ESL). The best teams need to play against each other. I don't understand what Manchester United gains by playing against a team like Sheffield United, or Real Madrid gains by playing against Huesca. What is the point in these lop-sided matches? And that is why they came up with the ESL, which seems to be a good idea and a treat for the football fans. The opposition to this is emotionally driven and unjustified.

Because every team can win. Even if you have a small chance your team can have a perfect team and beat the favourite. What are the Top clubs losing by playing against weaker teams? The fans definitely want to see it. I am so glad that there are so many fans protesting against their clubs. Stop this league directly at the beginning is the best way to get rid of it. I hope all teams are going to withdraw.
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I think it is pretty much dead at this point. Premier league is the wealthiest league in Europe and as I see most of English football fans don't want their teams to be part of such league. So even if they ask other rather smaller English teams, those will also reject.
I don't know why so many people are against this idea of the European Super League ( ESL). The best teams need to play against each other. I don't understand what Manchester United gains by playing against a team like Sheffield United, or Real Madrid gains by playing against Huesca. What is the point in these lop-sided matches? And that is why they came up with the ESL, which seems to be a good idea and a treat for the football fans. The opposition to this is emotionally driven and unjustified.
I don't exactly why people dislike matches between poor and rich teams. These teams can lose point to those who are weaker, all the time. That's what we like about football, we like to watch it for story.

I also believed this European super league would be far more corrupted than UEFA.
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