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[snipie]

WINNER OF THE ESL

The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built  the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked.
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Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

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[yemight600]

WINNER OF THE ESL

The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built  the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked.
https://i.ibb.co/TRW4PNV/Screenshot-20210421-181246.png

Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

It's just a speculation.  Of course others can be watching while a team is making the most benefit of the league after losing a lot.  We should just be thankful the SUPER LEAGUE couldn't become a reality.   

[judas]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56830308

According to news, Milan, Inter and Atletico Madrid have joined the English clubs which have withdrawn from the ESL too. And Agnelli says that this project can't go on like this and he is very right about it of course. There are only 3 clubs left in the tournament and it will be revoked probably.

[perfect999]

Let's be honest, these "premier league" teams are all salivating over the potential that if these six clubs are somehow dropped, punished, given points penalty, anything that would hurt them basically, there is a chance the other 14 teams would be higher up and that is what they are looking for.

They do not care if they go join a super league or not, it is not their business, it doesn't bother them and in fact it helps them by making the fatigue of this six clubs to be horrible so that other 14 would have a better chance in the premier league. But if you drop them to championship, or give them -30 penalty, or basically anything to hurt, that would help them even more. That is why they are pushing forward with something, otherwise they just did something and suspended just 24 hours later, it was like a joke, a bluff, nothing came out of it anyway.

[Igebotz]

WINNER OF THE ESL

The remaining would be use to get Real Madrid out of £900m debt, Florentino is a genius after all, it was a perfect time to retire from the football world and have his statue built  the proposed ESL was never a bad idea after all the corruptions in the UEFA but the timing was wrong, the fans were not considered, it was firmly formed on greed from the club owners. Congratulations to Jose Mourinho for being the first ESL manager to get sacked.
https://i.ibb.co/TRW4PNV/Screenshot-20210421-181246.png

Is step 3 and 4 speculation or real? I doubt those teams with crappy financial situation will let Perez grab that money and go away with it! No way! I didn't pay attention to this, is there a link somewhere to an article talking about this?

Actually, there were funds involved in the agreement to join as a founding club and they choose to walk away that's a breach of contract and those funds can not be refunded so it only means one thing. Perez takes all with his ESL dream.

[arallmuus]

Florentino is a genius after all

Aside from all those money collected by him, he made another bold move which is to show FIFA that when all those clubs join in together they could have done a serious impact. Imagine if alot more clubs actually join in and the fans agree with this idea, this would leave FIFA into nothing

They do not care if they go join a super league or not, it is not their business, it doesn't bother them and in fact it helps them by making the fatigue of this six clubs to be horrible so that other 14 would have a better chance in the premier league.

You seriously dont have any clue about what you are talking about. Where do you think all those money for the EPL came from? Its from the sponsor and the broadcasting right. If all those big 6 actually leave EPL, do you think the number of sponsors would remain the same? Also when small teams like Sheffield play against Manchester City, they will receive a decent sum of money which would help them rebuild the whole team

Its not about trying to win the EPL for all those small teams but rather its about getting those cash to build the team before they can really take on the EPL

[youdacapt]

Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success  for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

Well, the reality is that the ESL is not totally a bad idea; capitalist are usually only after money and that is what has happened; UEFA only stopped ESL because they were carried along while the process were done. European Super League (ESL) will be back in the near future, but it will be under the umbrella of UEFA who would draw out a plan to make it very competitive and rewarding.

[Woodie]

According to the news 9 out of the 12 teams who joined the ESL have withdrawn from the league leaving only Barcelona, Juventus, and Real Madrid still part of the team.

if the Juventus chairman Mr Andrea Agnelli said the European Super League wasnt going to happen that means Juventus is out too meaning Barca and Real Madrid are all what are left...lets call this El clasico Super league !!

I'm guessing that they realized with all the negative press they are getting as well as their own fans being angry about it they won't be gaining any kind of revenue if nobody will be watching and supporting their games. Since from the start they have a lose-lose situation here without any kind of notice and a totally opposite direction from the football we love this is something that these clubs can't be handling.

You have to give these guys some credit, they really tried because looking at those debt numbers you really have to go out of your way to find the means to pay back.

numbers not verified by the way

[Spack17]

Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

[Xxmodded]

The European Super League have ended without beginning after all club participants resign and only Real Madrid and Barcelona left, I think many club afraid with announcement banned by UEFA and FIFA but they not understand how financial most guarantee with The European Super League. But this now ended with Real Madrid and Barcelona left right now.

[Mistafreeze]

Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

Rome was not built in a day, Michael faraday did not invent electricity in a day, Satoshi did not invent Bitcoin in a day, everything with good intentions takes time to implement, the ESL was a wake-up call to FIFA and UEFA that yes both organisations are replaceable if they are not doing their job properly. Perez is a legend

[xenon131]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56830308

According to news, Milan, Inter and Atletico Madrid have joined the English clubs which have withdrawn from the ESL too. And Agnelli says that this project can't go on like this and he is very right about it of course. There are only 3 clubs left in the tournament and it will be revoked probably.

Will those clubs get sanctions from such bodies as UEFA and FIFA?  

[gabbie2010]

Nearly all of the founder clubs have left the ESL till now. But I believe this was a signal for a probable big change in the future. Maybe it hasn't happened yet but it will I think.

Rome was not built in a day, Michael faraday did not invent electricity in a day, Satoshi did not invent Bitcoin in a day, everything with good intentions takes time to implement, the ESL was a wake-up call to FIFA and UEFA that yes both organisations are replaceable if they are not doing their job properly. Perez is a legend

I also like the idea of ESL to break the monopolistic ways of UEFA and FIFA if not for the sanctions against players involved being banned  playing in world cup in their countries and leagues  my take is that if their is no clashes of fixtures  between ESL with other matches then there is no reason to ban it,  ESL matches are scheduled to be played in midweek clubs involved are seeking more ways to generate funds in the midst of consequences of the impact  of Covid-19.

[blue Snow]

I got my post on another topic about ESL on the gambling board then that topic going moved to off topic. Yeah, They know (moderator either) this game wouldn't happen in the future, no one talk about gambling/games/football on the ESL, this just about a greedy person who wants to more eat sponsor of money. 

[Jackl87]

I just read that florentino perez said that the plans for an european super league are not dead, they are just at stand-by for now. So he has not given up on that subject yet even though at the moment it seems like his dreams will never become a reality. Like i said before i would welcome some competition for the UEFA, so they have to be more transparent and must stop to behave like they are the kings of football and can do whatever they want.

[Mistafreeze]

I got my post on another topic about ESL on the gambling board then that topic going moved to off topic. Yeah, They know (moderator either) this game wouldn't happen in the future, no one talk about gambling/games/football on the ESL, this just about a greedy person who wants to more eat sponsor of money. 

Poor thread created by a newbie is not qualified to be in the gambling section and besides we cannot have more than one ESL thread in one section. Ighehh is a reputable forum user and this thread is just okay.

Perez told FIFA he want to create his World cup 

[buwaytress]

Perez followed up and he really needs better PR advisors. Their Sunday announcement was ill advised. And now his response post abortive first attempt equally ineffective, if not harmful to his cause.

At the same time he does bring up fair points. Young people are watching less football, or rather, no longer watching clubs they were brought up in.

But he is wrong to think ESL will fix that. It was to some extent the era of galacticos that moulded youth to only want to see superstars on superstages. You help build the monster, now help heal it, not just feed it.

[tyz]

Even though i want the SUPER LEAGUE to be a success  for some reasons, however the negative effects cannot be over look. The proposal would have been better if the money involved is not that huge. And thanks to the SUPER LEAGUE ideal UEFA is able to change champions League from group stage to a real league now.

There are no plans by UEFA to change the Champions League that way that you have a "real league". UEFA just plans to increase the teams attend in the competition, but then it will be more like a European League instead of a Champions League if you let attend two or third class teams just to make more money. So, the new CL is not better than the Super League.

[MrcMrc]

I received the news of the creation of ESL with misfiling; I think there are more politics in the European league than the ordinary fan may understand the club’s owner wants more money 💵 and the fans more fun I just hope FIFA will take a good stance on this power play.

[icopress]

Will those clubs get sanctions from such bodies as UEFA and FIFA?  

I did not go into the details of the political feuds between the leaders of the Super League and FIFA/UEFA but .. but sport is just a political instrument. If you do not neglect the repeated tolerant statements of the presidents of international associations Gianni Infantino and Alexander Cheferin, then even an idiot can understand that this smells like double standards.

The co-founders of the Super League, by and large, do not care about the importance of this tournament, this is just a new opportunity for them to earn money, and given who is the main sponsor of this event, this is not surprising. But the leaders of FIFA and UEFA also made a mistake ... I understand that they do not want to give away some of the tasty pie, but the disqualification of teams looks like a change of democracy by anarchy.