Who’s more powerful? The players, Fans or Clubs

[iTradeChips]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

I think that the statement given by many that fans are the ones that basically gives the sport its energy, is really true. I mean without the fans, the club will cease to exist for there would be no one who basically cares about the team and that their share of the action would be irrelevant. Also, sales through merchandise would plummet as fans will cease buying the merchandise and thus will not make any money for the team. Fans are the reason why sports continue to be viewed.

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[Lordhermes]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

That's my take on this too, I find it unnecessary and pretty scummy that we are to choose which one is important when in the end, all of them have their own roles to fill as @Cling18 has said, we need to stop with this kind of dividing people. Players are the ones that make the game interesting, the club is the representative and the fans are the pillar, as simple as that

A clear example should be taken from the time of corona virus pandemic period, watching football match without the fans in the stadium was boring and repulsive, no body finds it interesting to go over television and watch football match again as before, I will be researching on the number of viewers before and after pandemic, let examine the statistics and find out whether the fans has more great impact than the club and players.

[Silberman]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what.

[Swopon]

A clear example should be taken from the time of corona virus pandemic period, watching football match without the fans in the stadium was boring and repulsive, no body finds it interesting to go over television and watch football match again as before, I will be researching on the number of viewers before and after pandemic, let examine the statistics and find out whether the fans has more great impact than the club and players.

Agreed. In my local area, we had done some practice match with high security due to this pandemic. Its our local club and we do often play to highlight our club. Before this pandemic, there are many peoples who are enjoyed our practice match as well as young players too, we are missing them and so do they. We don't feel like we are playing to create recreation for others without audiences. The same thing can be for the big players who often play at the field for his supporters, club as well as their country. That's why I agreed with your last word.

[uneng]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what.

That is a good reason to explain why fans have no power on the industry. They don't decide anything, they just cheer and some maintain the club financially.

It's similar to what happens in politics: who is the most powerful, the government or the people?

Many will say the people is the most powerful, because they choose the government, they are the lifeblood of the country and so on... But actually the government doesn't act accordingly to what the populations demands. Instead, the government has their own agenda, ignoring citizens' wishes without even complain if there will be complainments or not. And if they act this way without worries it's because they are the most powerful.

In sports it's the same thing. Fans = population and governments = clubs.

[KTChampions]

This is a unified system and it is very naive to oppose one part of the system to another. Each part of the system that you have listed has its own interests and the current state of affairs reflects the balance of these interests. It is wrong to view the process of balancing these interests as a confrontation. If there are any contradictions, they are resolved through economic processes and a new balance comes that suits everyone.

[lablab03]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen . As the matter of fact Its like what is happening right now in some real games around the globe. Such sports because of the covid they decided to use a recorded cheers and screen with faces of some fans like video call. Lmao. Which is just to make the game more interesting and intense... So fans is the most powerful.  If its not then why most in some sports in television has faces of fans and cheers?

[Coin_trader]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

[Stedsm]

Fans and supporters are depressed and may commit suicide? What logic did you bring here OP?  
I believe that all are directly correlated to each other and none of them can live without each other. Clubs need real sportsmen (players) for their games in order to let the entertainment going on while they make profits, players need fans to cheer them up so that those players will play in a great manner while fans need both clubs (in order to let them do giveaways for the fans and keep them happy while fans also spend enough to watch the games and their favorite players live making huge profits for these clubs) and players (whom the fans cheer in order to increase their inner strength and will power to win the match while players do their best to entertain fans at any cost).

[just_Alice]

Obviously, all of them are important, but I agree with you, that fans have the most influence.

But for that influence impact to be achieved, it's a big task and works for players and clubs.

There should actually no debate on who's more powerful of the three. A large fan base is also because of the good work of clubs and players.

Yes, without the clubs and good game there'd be no fans, but in the end, who is it that really sets the mode? If the fans refused to go on a game for some reason - the clubs and players would lose the money. On the contrary, if the players and/or clubs refuse to participate or change some things significantly - what will the fans lose? Entertainment. But fans have got plenty of other things, other games, other entertainment, while for the players the game is, basically, everything. Thus, it's in their best interest to act as the fans want in order to hold the audience and earn money.

[ReiMomo]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

If you’re going to observe it well, sports has been doing well when it comes to business purposes. Branding has been widely accepted by the fans.

Three of the groups mentioned are important and the community won’t work well missing at least of those. Players can't be found and can't give a commitment to sports if money isn’t there. Fans must be there in order to earn money so players can get monetize. Clubs have to be there to support financing, organizing, management, and promotion so they will be open to fans. But the most valuable ones are the players. They're the main roles of the community. If they aren’t there, sports will not be a thing.

[lxiaoh]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

[iTradeChips]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

players needs to perform with their best because the outcome of the game is important so that people will keep coming back to see more . did you see that best players often get massive audience compare to those games with less skillful players but if there are multiple plays in one event , people wont care on the outcome of other players but they will start to care once thier favorite players are already playing .

Well, you can imagine the things you can create for the fans aside from a good play. You got tv, print media, online sales, merchandise, and many other things that the clubs and management will do so that fans will stay loyal and be able to profit from them. It is devilish to think of that really. We all know fans are what makes clubs and the sport itself active and alive, but at the same time the thought of these fans blindly paying huge sums of money for stuff related to the club? That is insane.

[iv4n]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

I am not sure how this goes in other countries, but in my country fans (there are some strong groups) are sitting on the board of directors, some of them are managers of players... What I wish to say some groups are earning big money, they are not just fans!
So who is more powerful depends on the country we are talking about I guess! In some countries, fans are big groups, with many illegal activities in their daily tasks, with clear military structure, from foot soldiers to generals! These groups can be crazy, and nobody messes around with them... I would say they are the strongest! Even police don't touch them!

[mediaBuzz]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

players needs to perform with their best because the outcome of the game is important so that people will keep coming back to see more . did you see that best players often get massive audience compare to those games with less skillful players but if there are multiple plays in one event , people wont care on the outcome of other players but they will start to care once thier favorite players are already playing .

Well, you can imagine the things you can create for the fans aside from a good play. You got tv, print media, online sales, merchandise, and many other things that the clubs and management will do so that fans will stay loyal and be able to profit from them.

Revenue that comes from fans is statistically the biggest source of income among all. Then goes merchandise and then advertisements. That fan-based revenue is just huuuge, because people spend their money in sports not the way they buy groceries or cloth like "I need this - I bought this". They emotionally get involved and buy stuff like crazy.

[xSkylarx]

Each of them plays a different role so it is not easy to say who is the most powerful.

The Players decide the outcome of the game depending on the skill they have. I'm not sure how players give profit to clubs but I think it's from sponsorships and their performance in tournaments.

The Clubs provide the salaries to the players. Without them, they can't just build a strong team they want without agreeing with the player that they want to recruit.

The Fans are the ones who make the players and the team popular. If they have more fans then they have higher engagement in different social media platforms attracting more sports enthusiast to become a fan.

[YuginKadoya]

I should say Fans but that point taken, but if we think out of the box I think money is the one that is powerful because without it this would not truly be happening non of this will cycle around if there is no money coming in and coming out, but well as you think about it Fans are boosting the Clubs to make such events and again money is needed to play it around, money is then got from a certain fan that wants to watch and wants to bet on the players, well I just want to add that up, and with the pandemic and right now that we are in a digital world or era, cryptocurrency is really taken in the picture.

[Mauser]

Each of them plays a different role so it is not easy to say who is the most powerful.

The Players decide the outcome of the game depending on the skill they have. I'm not sure how players give profit to clubs but I think it's from sponsorships and their performance in tournaments.

The Clubs provide the salaries to the players. Without them, they can't just build a strong team they want without agreeing with the player that they want to recruit.

The Fans are the ones who make the players and the team popular. If they have more fans then they have higher engagement in different social media platforms attracting more sports enthusiast to become a fan.

I don't think that the Players have any power at all. If you don't perform as a player you will just be kicked off the team. It is your job to perform and they are paid millions each year. So if the trainers or fans notice that the player is not giving 100% each game, there will be a public outcry. There might be a few super stars who are able to fight back against the trainers and fans but overall the average player is just an employee. There is a lot of trading of players happening, so the pressure is definitely from the Fans and Trainers on the Players. And there is also tons of video analysis being down - so the trainers know exactly who is not giving 100%.

[michellee]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

That is the basic thing that every club owner should know and listen to because without fans, their club is nothing and they can not get popularity if they do not have support from the fans. The part from the fans can give them a big thing in the sports industry because if they can become popular among the other club, that means more money will come to them. Their club will be bigger than the other club and if they can manage that, the club owner will get benefits from that.

[KTChampions]

I should say Fans but that point taken, but if we think out of the box I think money is the one that is powerful because without it this would not truly be happening non of this will cycle around if there is no money coming in and coming out, but well as you think about it Fans are boosting the Clubs to make such events and again money is needed to play it around, money is then got from a certain fan that wants to watch and wants to bet on the players, well I just want to add that up, and with the pandemic and right now that we are in a digital world or era, cryptocurrency is really taken in the picture.

Fans = money. Money = fans. If you have a lot of fans you will easily make money, if you have a lot of money you will easily "buy" good content and you will have a lot of fans. Therefore, it is rather illogical to talk about which is stronger or more primary, this single system.