Who’s more powerful? The players, Fans or Clubs

[Stevcummings]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The Clubs keep investing in players who otherwise might just be talented, skillful, unemployed and poor individuals.
They help reduce the rate of crime and Governments are happy that clubs exist..

The players bring entertainment and fulfilment to fans and supporters who otherwise might be depressed and may likely commit suicide..

Through betting, fans and supporters make money off the hard work of footballers...

The fans patronise the games and pay money for their source of entertainment. Without the fans, clubs will have less motivation to invest in the players and players are likely to suffer for that..

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.

SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.

Reality is that Clubs gave too much money to players and made them disrespectful to their managers.

End result, more debt and lacklustre..

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[dothebeats]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

[Quidat]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

Exactly! I was supposed to say the same thing that all of those clubs and players wont really be existing if there were no fans after all.They wont really be able to generate
revenue as it should be because fans are the ones  who had been generating the money that circles around to this industry or business, without them then they wont really
be existing in the first place.So in question on whose more powerful? Ill be definitely stick out with Fans.

[Goodluckmate.com]

I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players. 

[chaser15]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

But for that to profit, Clubs should manage well their players and do their best to improve their skills as fans won't patronize something without a reason.

Overall, all are having a key role. If clubs or players failed to meet the fans' expectations, then don't expect something good about it.

[Japinat]

It's not necessary to ask because the answer is really obvious, the answer is the "FANS".

Reason = self explanatory because without the FANS, no sports will succeed and players will not be getting a good salary.
We are the main source of their livelihood, we pay to be entertain, they do the job for us to get entertain.

[rhomelmabini]

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

You even answered your own question OP and I agree that's the correct answer too. Who are these players and club owners when they aren't patronized by these fans? Nothing, they would just playing out there and no motivation at all.

[Twentyonepaylots]

It's the Fans that I think are the most powerful out of all three. Imagine being a very good content creator, on an established and well-known platform like Youtube, but still unable to rake in views because you don't have supporters/subscribers. That's how powerful the mass is compared to an individual or a corporation, they can do everything they can to rake in people, but if the fans say no, then they wouldn't have any choice.

[Joca97]

The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

[Lanatsa]

I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players. 

If there's no demand then there would be no players and clubs would be existing because there would be no one to watch which would sell off those tickets and those merch and other
viable source that they could get from fans.

There's no point if they would make out games for nothing or they cant get any benefit since no fans would be watching out.In speaking with teams then they are the ones
who do bring out some quality entertainment and thrill which we can definitely say that theres need of mutual benefits to each other.

[blockman]

They are right that the fans are still the ones that will make money for them. If it's for the fans, there will be no takers of their tickets and no sponsors will come to them because it's what they want, the exposure of these players and clubs get from the fans.
That's why some players who forget to respect fans are too quickly gone in their career and goes early out because the fans are boycotting them.

[Ulven]

The fans can make a big problem in football
The football is played because of the fans and they have every right now to be mad at what the club managments are doing

This is dissapoint on what is happening in the world currently about this league

Of course, these three elements are the true meaning of football,Without these components, games and entertainment cannot be obtained.
And, the fans will be allowed to get angry and demand the club to retract its unwanted decisions,The fans are the official sponsors of football without whom the club management budget cannot be obtained.so the most powerful ones are the fans

[goaldigger]

There are some leagues that still have small number of fans especially if the sports is not that popular but despite of those numbers, without Fans sports will die easily because to run a sports league there must be a fans to generate money to support for the team clubs.

Its hard to measure the influence of every team, some club owners are doing everything to lure the fans, but seriously Players are just a players here who are working for the fans and for the clubs for their own benefit and for the love of sports.

[Wexnident]

Aren't they basically equal? Like there's an equilibrium that mas be maintained between the three ALWAYS. A club exists because of players, fans exist because of their players, and players group up due to clubs. Players earn profit for playing for the club, the club earns profit for advertising the players to its fans, and fans enjoy watching the players. Without one of these three, it'd basically be non-existent. Without a club, players wouldn't even be able to group up, practice, and play in official games. Without players, what the hell is a club for? And without fans, there'd basically be zero profit for the clubs, even if we consider competitions, the bulk of profits from there come from the audience afaik.

[romero121]

Yes, the fans are the one who makes everything successful associated with sports. Rather than through betting, the support is mainly through the viewership and following.

Clubs aren't benefited out of the fans, those are organization that profits through advertising and funds from corporate firms. To keep their name high, clubs hire players for high cost and give the sophistication. On the whole when you look what the fans get is nothing, whereas the clubs and players are the benefitting ones.

[ralle14]

Like you've said fans are more powerful as they provide a lot of support to their teams but it's only to a certain extent because it could also backfire whenever the team is having a bit of struggle throughout the season. Sometimes you'll see some fans become toxic and put pressure on certain players that isn't doing so well.

On another sport like esports its the players that are more powerful because a lot of teams start from the bottom and once they reach the top they're eventually picked up by the bigger orgs and whenever there's a roster changes it feels like the captain/members of the team are usually behind those decisions.

[Darker45]

Who's more powerful? There is none. It seems you've raised the wrong question.

The relationship between the three is more or less equal. It is a symbiotic relationship where one is benefiting from the other. Without the players, clubs are nothing and fans don't get what they want for entertainment. Without the fans, the clubs and players are useless. Without the clubs, players won't get discovered, reach the limelight, and so on and no events, leagues, tournaments are created.  

[BTCLiz]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

From microeconomic consumer's choice theory the fans (consumers) are the most powerful. In general they provide the financial basis for the clubs and the players. Also they are the consumers of advertisement, which also plays a great role when it comes to the question how to finance a club.

[swogerino]

The most powerful as the pandemic showed are the fans.Games without them were so boring that when a game was shown in Tv the Tv created artificially the atmosphere of the fans,they offered background cheering to make the game more enjoyable to watch.

[Karartma1]

Millions of supporters have been able to put this filthy Super-Leauge takeover at the door but this is not the end. It's a clear strategy by those teams because they want to test the ground to see how far can they go and this time they had to stop at the start.
This is how our life works in many field guys: do you remember what happened to the frog?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

[gabbie2010]

The recent withdrawal of some EPL teams  from the newly established Europa Super league after fans of those clubs kicked against it shows the importance of fans, many  Chelsea football club fans protested against Chelsea involvement in ESL outside their stadium before their match against Brighton,  pressure mounted by the fans culminated to the quick withdrawal, if not for Covid-19 restrictions majority of the fans would have boycotted matches involving those clubs

[bitterguy28]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

What's the reason for this comparisons ?

They are all Important in every Sports so why need to look for whos powerful?


All of them are powerful in their Own area in which make the game worth watching  and Betting.

[joker_josue]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The most powerful is who has the most money!

Players will always exist, even if they are amateurs. Clubs can possibly exist when a group of players play against another group.
Fans may eventually emerge, with friends and colleagues, from these players, when they go to play with others.

But in the midst of all this, these players / clubs are currently going to reach professionals, big clubs and a large number of fans, if they are hired by these famous clubs. It takes money to do that.

And the money for clubs is no longer coming from the majority of fans, but from sponsors, television and advertising rights.
The number of fans can determine better or worse advertising contracts.

In turn, clubs with the most money get the best players, and are most likely to win. Whoever wins more has a greater chance of having more fans. Those who have more fans get better sponsorships. Better sponsorships, more money.

In short, who has the most money is the one who has the most power in sport. It may be sad, for those who like the game, but unfortunately that's how the current world of sport works.

[DoublerHunter]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

^ Out of these 3 options, I never knew someone would find out!
Kidding aside, this actually applies to all sports whether it is a big one or small.
Fans are the gains of the business, if they won’t pay the platform to be entertained, the cash won’t flow properly. Clubs are almost included with the fans as they support the teams of the players, it is just that they are more invested with it compared to the fans who only watch and support their teams. But the ones who really benefit are the founders of the leagues, as they are highly compensated because of founding it and deciding to start the hype.

[Jackl87]

I think that the fans are the most powerful in the end, because if they would not support their favorite clubs with the buying of tickets and merchandise would miss out on a lot of money. The next big income source for clubs are sponsors and the money they get from the TV-stations and it's the same here. If no fans would watch the games of the clubs no TV station would have any interest to air those matches and no sponsor would be willing to pay a single penny to be shown there.
So if you look at it now the fans are the ones with the lowest power because they simply watch from the outside but have no direct influence over their clubs but on the other hand they also are the most powerful in a way as the clubs probably wouldn't exist at all without fans.

[YOSHIE]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

There are three challenging questions to answer, but the three questions are related to each other. The three have a strong bond, but here l have to choose one of the 3, one that is strong.

Good:
• Club: it can be said that it is an association with one goal or it can be specialized in branches or companies, investments, here are only classified as individuals with 10-100 members only.
• Player: means someone who has expertise / proficiency in his / her field, for example: sports etc.
Of course: the physical strength and speed of each player must be their individual capital.
• Fans: or supporters in the soul of each supporter have enthusiasm, fanaticism, records, team, strength, support, collective energy to move forward.
Tampa Fans of every game are useless and the result: so fans are the strongest among the OP questions.

[joker_josue]

I think that the fans are the most powerful in the end, because if they would not support their favorite clubs with the buying of tickets and merchandise would miss out on a lot of money. The next big income source for clubs are sponsors and the money they get from the TV-stations and it's the same here. If no fans would watch the games of the clubs no TV station would have any interest to air those matches and no sponsor would be willing to pay a single penny to be shown there.
So if you look at it now the fans are the ones with the lowest power because they simply watch from the outside but have no direct influence over their clubs but on the other hand they also are the most powerful in a way as the clubs probably wouldn't exist at all without fans.

It is true that fans are a very important element, but they are not the ones that have more power.

An example of this was Soccer. In the United States, football (known as soccer) was not very well known and had very few fans.
But, with a large financial investment, marketing and attracting famous players from Europe, they managed to grow and now have a good number of fans.
They started, practically without fans, but with the money invested they managed to grow and already have a number of fans that it pays to build specific stadiums for this sport.

[ReiMomo]

For me, players are the most powerful among the three, why? It is very simple. Clubs can't be established or built if they don’t have the players who would commit themselves to become the best which will become entertaining to the fans due to their great results.

Fans will never be there and become amazed and support the players if players are lame and mediocre. Being a great play takes a lot of effort, money, sweat, tears, rejections, and blood. And those sacrifices have to be recognized and recognized. But the three groups are very much important to keep the sport running. One of them being missed, the league will shut down for sure. That’s for sure I guess.

[peter0425]

For me it's the Fans , because They are the one who's making the Team more popular and they are responsible for the Bets that pushes the team to be more in demand and actively in playing for cause.

For me, players are the most powerful among the three, why? It is very simple. Clubs can't be established or built if they don’t have the players who would commit themselves to become the best which will become entertaining to the fans due to their great results.

But the players will be nothing if there are no Fans that following and supporting them.

[Smartprofit]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The Clubs keep investing in players who otherwise might just be talented, skillful, unemployed and poor individuals.
They help reduce the rate of crime and Governments are happy that clubs exist..

The players bring entertainment and fulfilment to fans and supporters who otherwise might be depressed and may likely commit suicide..

Through betting, fans and supporters make money off the hard work of footballers...

The fans patronise the games and pay money for their source of entertainment. Without the fans, clubs will have less motivation to invest in the players and players are likely to suffer for that..

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.

SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.

Reality is that Clubs gave too much money to players and made them disrespectful to their managers.

End result, more debt and lacklustre..

In my opinion, the most important thing in any project is the organizer (coordinator), that is, the clubs.  

Players are wonderful and talented people, but they need to be organized so that they can develop and use their natural abilities.  The fans are the backbone of the whole system.  However, people rarely know what they really want.  

Take the iPhone, for example. Was the iPhone invented by consumers?

No, the iPhone was invented by brilliant visionary techies led by Steve Jobs.  

Also in this situation.  Clubs organize the whole process and actually divide people into two groups - players and fans.

[michellee]

The more powerful is the fan because, without the fan, the players and the clubs is nothing. We know that the fan give a big portion in the sports game and with the fan, the sports game can become bigger and become popular. The bigger the fan, the popular the sports is. So if the fan leaves them, they will not get anything. The fan will choose the players they want, and they will support that player to give the best performance.

[mediaBuzz]

The fans. Professional football is more entertainment than sport. In lower leagues or college football might be considered a sport. But professional football exists to entertain its fans. Numerous matches, events were canceled during the pandemic simply because their fans were not able to come to watch.

[Mauser]

I think 3. The Fans are most important for a team. Without them a football club has nothing. Imagine an empty stadium before the corona pandemic. If all fans would boycott a trainer or a certain player than I am sure that he would be fired or transfered. Without real fans who watch every game, buy club merch and support their team no matter what, it would be very difficult for a team to exist. The best example of the power of fans is the European super league, after not even a week it ended because of fan boycott.

[avikz]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

Not sure where this discussion is going towards and also don't understand what this discussion will bring up! I mean the bottom line of this discussion is not clear!

In a sports ecosystem, all 3 parties are mandatory. Just like the stock market where only buyers can't survive without sellers and vice versa. Similar in the sports industry, the club, footballers and the fans create an ecosystem for the sports business which is a multi billion dollar industry. If one moves out, the ecosystem will collapse!

[AOBTCT6]

This recent European Super League affair has shown the power the fans have. Undoubtably they are they most powerful as they're the ones that ultimately fund everything (merchandise, tickets, TV subscriptions, viewership etc.).

The difficulty for fans has always been grouping together to get a consistent opinion and therefore force the hand.

The ESL has proved if they do all gang up, no one can go against them. But on issues like VAR the consensus is too scattered so the powers that be have their way.

[mu_enrico]

It depends on what's the structure of the club. If they are just like a commercial corporation with shareholders and stuff, fans are just their customers. Yes, fans can affect decision to a certain extent, but it will be at the mercy of the directors. It's like yelling at Apple Inc. to create a triangle-shaped iPhone. Even if lots of customers want it, they may not agree with the plan.

However, if the club has a more socialistic structure, such as FC Barcelona, the fans have more say in the club's policy.

Players are equal to assets. The management will hold it as long as they make more money.

[robelneo]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

The fans are the market of any sports, the clubs or organizations can only exist because of the fans, they are the lifeline and blood of the sports, the sports cannot exist in charity, the fans are one paying tickets, pay the subscriptions and patronize products that are promoted by the team.

Teams and organizations are dedicated to giving the fans what they want to see, and that is excitement and fun, if they cannot give it to the fans the sports team and the organization will cease to exist.

[Fundamentals Of]

It depends on what's the structure of the club. If they are just like a commercial corporation with shareholders and stuff, fans are just their customers. Yes, fans can affect decision to a certain extent, but it will be at the mercy of the directors. It's like yelling at Apple Inc. to create a triangle-shaped iPhone. Even if lots of customers want it, they may not agree with the plan.

Fans, just like customers, may have the last say actually. If Apple prefers to make a square smart phone and no single customer buys it, Apple will create a triangle phone. This is all ridiculous of course but this is to show how much customers matter.

If a club losses the support of fans, it won't attract audience, viewers, attendance, etc. That means it is losing its business.

Players are equal to assets. The management will hold it as long as they make more money.

Based on a contract which the player will have to agree. Both the management and the player make money.

[uneng]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

You nailed it on the correct order. The most powerful are the clubs, as they own the money which is used to pay players, which comes from sponsors and fans purchases at official stores and monthly payments to have benefits at club's locations and use their services. Clubs control everything.

In second you have the players, who will give the club strength and popularity. Players are like investment for the clubs: all the money paid in wages must return somehow to the clubs. Good players generate better sponsorship and incentive fans to spend more money on the industry.

In third are the fans, who actually don't own any power... They don't have any influence on the club's strategies, management, hires... Fans' role is to spend money maintaining the club working smoothly and cheer during the matches.

[imstillthebest]

players because players make huge money but money is not the only measurement of power but skills also . players have a skill in the sport they play .
 fans is only consist of one people if you seperate it and its income is not big than what a single player can make and a fan is a normal type of person .
 they dont have the skill that a real player had , same applies in the club .

[7788bitcoin]

Reality is that Clubs gave too much money to players and made them disrespectful to their managers.
End result, more debt and lacklustre..

It is a capitalistic approach and there are clubs that are bidding for the same player and if they want to maintain the fans they need to spend money for the best players and the best always attracts a lot of money as more clubs will be eyeing for their service. It is not a one way game, the team needs to win and they need to have a balance and the fans are the most powerful as they need to attract them for the revenue .

[macson]

I agree with the OP and the others who commented that fans are the heart of sport teams. Yes, players and managers bring the quality of the game. Still, none of the clubs would exist if their passionate fans weren't giving them constant support, going to their games, buying their merch. The reality is that without demand, there is no product. In my opinion, in sport that demand is represented by the fans' affection towards clubs and players. 

no need to argue at length, fans are the most important thing in sport teams....a sponsor who gives a lot of money to the team will first look at the reputation and number of fans of the club, if their fans are few then sponsoring the team is really useless. 

personally if i have a brand that I want to market, of course i will choose the English league team to sponsor such as Liverpool, Man utd or Man City which already has millions of fans in various parts of the world, so my product is quickly popular and my investment as a sponsor is effective.

[mindrust]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

[Swopon]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

Exactly, it is the right explanation. All are equal and it can be discussed by layer. If you think those are three layer individually then you can't think it without one layer. It will be incomplete totally. All are related with each other which make it complete. Fans will be more prioritized here over other.

[MAAManda]

Basically, these three things (players, fans and clubs) are interconnected and have their own relationship.

However, in reality we can see that there are players who dominate the club and there are also clubs that dominate the players.

For example, Messi who dominates the Barcelona and Florentino Perez (Real Madrid) who dominates the players.

[Smartvirus]

I'm still of the opinion that fans are the most important of them all. Cutting the clubs off, I can tell you there is still another alternative which is the street football. You don't need clubs for that, just a bunch of street footballers pick themselves as they please each time they meet on a pitch and train together. Meanwhile, there are still those that make some income of it as in, illegal gambling, staking on which side you consider as the better side and the game goes on. It happens and I've watched it a lot in my locality. In this instance, the clubs doesn't matter, even at that, competitions could be organised and the players on the pitch make money out of it and they are still not a club or a team except that, they are the team of the moment.

So, the fans are the bases of everything about most sports. They are the 9nce providing the funds through participation in various activities the sporting life offers and they are the once being entertained. I won't totally ignore the other part of the relationship but then, the fans is the most vital. Being at the beginning and the end.

[bitzizzix]

I think supporters play an important and very strong role because the more supporters the more they buy match tickets, and the bigger the income, the more games, so this can be a weapon or a mainstay for the life of a club.

[acquafredda]

Of course fans are the most important link in the chain: without fans onboard, no money for the system!
The Romans understood that very well: panem et circences or bread and circuses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses
To put it simply, never go against your people and always entertain them: that is what it takes to be in charge.

[Mahanton]

Basically, these three things (players, fans and clubs) are interconnected and have their own relationship.

However, in reality we can see that there are players who dominate the club and there are also clubs that dominate the players.

For example, Messi who dominates the Barcelona and Florentino Perez (Real Madrid) who dominates the players.

They are really connected to each other and this wont really exist if one part would really be absent or doesnt exist.Even though majority been talking here about
fans to be the most powerful but i do bit agree that they do have mutual benefits to each other or something that they could rely on.
They wont really be making out some revenue if one of those factors or components doesnt exist.

[royalfestus]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

But for that to profit, Clubs should manage well their players and do their best to improve their skills as fans won't patronize something without a reason.

Overall, all are having a key role. If clubs or players failed to meet the fans' expectations, then don't expect something good about it.

Fans had not made as much money for the club since Covid pandemic begins and the teams have been struggling, Madrid had a loss of over $400 million as the highest earner in European football. Premier league and UEFA won the war not the fan and I consider UEFA especially selfish. They only consider losing the highest team earners to the super league without any benefit from it, they went to the extent of going after players in those clubs. Those sanctions are too much for the offence.

[Fortify]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

I think this is highly dependent on the sport, but with recent events it would seem that you are referring to the European Super League. The fans seem to be the real winners in this situation and they caused quite an uproar from the moment it was announced, this shows that even the billionaire overseas owners would cower when confronted with the real anger shown towards them. Now if you were to look at a sport like the NBA, it is much more rigged in favor of the "clubs" involved, because (similar to the proposed ESL) it has a bunch of teams that will always be in the league and there is no room for new entrants. Personally, for it to be a real club sport there should be the possibility of moving even an amateur team up through the ranks and be able to win against the biggest champions out there. Otherwise it is too rigged and the Champions just end up taking ever large chunks of the generated revenue until the other teams cannot compete effectively - similar to a oligarchy.

[just_Alice]

Obviously, all of them are important, but I agree with you, that fans have the most influence. Nowadays, when it comes to any product or service and, basically, anything that brings profit the most important thing and the first thing that businessmen analyze is market demand, which is determined solely by the consumers.
Extrapolating this on sports business would lead to the conclusion, that it's indeed fans that hold all the power.

[chaser15]

Obviously, all of them are important, but I agree with you, that fans have the most influence.

But for that influence impact to be achieved, it's a big task and works for players and clubs.

There should actually no debate on who's more powerful of the three. A large fan base is also because of the good work of clubs and players.

[Twinkledoe]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

I agree on this, a very balanced explanation. All of them are important and equal. And it's all going to end up that everyone should respect the importance of the clubs, players and the fans.

There should actually no debate on who's more powerful of the three. A large fan base is also because of the good work of clubs and players.

+1

I agree.

Very well said. Those 3 entities are vital for them to be successful in the sports industry. Without one of them, I don't think they will enjoy the same success they can get in this field. So yes, this should not be a question in the first place. Just look at the scenario if you will take out any of them, whether fans or clubs or players, there will be nothing to discuss about.

[joker_josue]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

I agree on this, a very balanced explanation. All of them are important and equal. And it's all going to end up that everyone should respect the importance of the clubs, players and the fans.

There should actually no debate on who's more powerful of the three. A large fan base is also because of the good work of clubs and players.

+1

I agree.

Very well said. Those 3 entities are vital for them to be successful in the sports industry. Without one of them, I don't think they will enjoy the same success they can get in this field. So yes, this should not be a question in the first place. Just look at the scenario if you will take out any of them, whether fans or clubs or players, there will be nothing to discuss about.

In a way I also agree.

This is the home base of many clubs and competitions. But, unfortunately today, due to the desire to win win and win, sport has changed in a way that gradually that base is no longer the one with "more power" (which is the point here in question).

Of course, if one of these bases fails, everything will no longer make sense. But, without failing this base, we enter a cycle in which only some win and others do not, because the game ends up being controlled by those who have more financial resources.

[Rengga Jati]

I am sure that both of them have their right power to determine whether the club is there. There will be no club without players, no fans without players and clubs. And of course, there will be no players without any club want to request them.
So in this case, they are influencing each other. And one more is about the government and also sponsorship.
If we only focus on one thing here, we may not be able to keep stay little longer for the sports because there may be high significnance and not be able to drive the club more

[plr]

The players and the clubs satisfied the demand of the fans they are the market and the true boss of any sports, without the fans there's no games, no sales, and the organization cannot keep up with running a team, no organizations can sustain without revenues, which they get from fans who are buying tickets and paying pay per view subscriptions, the players and the clubs exist because of the fans.

[harizen]

Not because fans are the source of income, it's now become more powerful than two. All of them play a big role. There would be no fans if the Clubs didn't invest in the part that they take care of the league players. While on players, if they are not doing what they are supposed to do, no fans will cheer on them and pays for a ticket or subscription or even supports a product advertised by them.

One good example is, remember the Brooklyn Nets having a hard time in NBA? I forgot what season it is but they have the worst record that season and only a few fans watching live on their games. Their ticket sales become poor that affect their revenue. They did some progress a season later, trading players, modifying their rosters, etc, and successfully back on track again and ticket sales bloom again.

Everything should be balanced. If one underperformed, it will destroy the cycle.

[michellee]

The players and the clubs satisfied the demand of the fans they are the market and the true boss of any sports, without the fans there's no games, no sales, and the organization cannot keep up with running a team, no organizations can sustain without revenues, which they get from fans who are buying tickets and paying pay per view subscriptions, the players and the clubs exist because of the fans.

So the fans are the key for the sports to become popular and without them, the sports will not get popularity and will not make money. Even if the fans do not have much money like the boss, the organization, the club owner, the fans can do many things to make the sports can not get what they want. So the club owner and the boss behind the organization need to understand that and they need to serve their fans.

[Kittygalore]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

I think that all of them are essential in their respective roles, fans are the lifeblood but the players are the ones that are playing the game, the clubs manage the players and have the do the PR for the players for the fans. Choosing one of them is like choosing whether water, air or food is essential for a human to live.

[BuNga_cute]

The players and the clubs satisfied the demand of the fans they are the market and the true boss of any sports, without the fans there's no games, no sales, and the organization cannot keep up with running a team, no organizations can sustain without revenues, which they get from fans who are buying tickets and paying pay per view subscriptions, the players and the clubs exist because of the fans.

So the fans are the key for the sports to become popular and without them, the sports will not get popularity and will not make money. Even if the fans do not have much money like the boss, the organization, the club owner, the fans can do many things to make the sports can not get what they want. So the club owner and the boss behind the organization need to understand that and they need to serve their fans.

Therefore, many big teams do everything for the sake of the fans, because like you said sports without fans will not make money.
Why did many big European teams toured Asia before the COVID-19 pandemic occurred, because they wanted to add fans from Asia.
Then many big European teams bought Asian players. Like Liverpool buying Takumi Minamino, it was all done to please the fans.
The more fans of a team, the richer the team will be, therefore I strongly agree that in the world of sports fans are the strongest.

[michellee]

The players and the clubs satisfied the demand of the fans they are the market and the true boss of any sports, without the fans there's no games, no sales, and the organization cannot keep up with running a team, no organizations can sustain without revenues, which they get from fans who are buying tickets and paying pay per view subscriptions, the players and the clubs exist because of the fans.

So the fans are the key for the sports to become popular and without them, the sports will not get popularity and will not make money. Even if the fans do not have much money like the boss, the organization, the club owner, the fans can do many things to make the sports can not get what they want. So the club owner and the boss behind the organization need to understand that and they need to serve their fans.

Therefore, many big teams do everything for the sake of the fans, because like you said sports without fans will not make money.
Why did many big European teams toured Asia before the COVID-19 pandemic occurred, because they wanted to add fans from Asia.
Then many big European teams bought Asian players. Like Liverpool buying Takumi Minamino, it was all done to please the fans.
The more fans of a team, the richer the team will be, therefore I strongly agree that in the world of sports fans are the strongest.

That is right. The big teams know how they should treat their fans and do many things just for them. They want to give the best and besides that, if they can get more fans, their team will get big support and give more spirits to their team.

Maybe the club owner will invite their fan to meet and greet their team to make their fan happy to see their favourite player. That can lift their popularity among the other teams and they will get more supports.

[acener]

I agree the Fans are the most powerful of all without them the clubs and player wouldn't continue,
They support the club and the club supports the player so the player and club needs the fans to continue without the Fans both clubs and player would struggle to continue on the field.
That is why some of the players are so humble and generous to their fans.

[acroman08]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

I was gonna say the fans since they are the targeted market and is where the money is. but this makes sense too. it's more like give and take and everyone benefits from it. the fans get the entertainment they want, the players get to play the sports they want and get paid and the club gets the profit and the exposure they want.

[molsewid]

I think that all of them are essential in their respective roles, fans are the lifeblood but the players are the ones that are playing the game, the clubs manage the players and have the do the PR for the players for the fans. Choosing one of them is like choosing whether water, air or food is essential for a human to live.

I agree with you mate players, clubs and fans are the three essential to make a gambling business operated smoothly. Though the business can still run even the one was absent but can't deny that the missing of one aspect can contribute also to the slow grow of a business. But among the three I believe that the fans are the most important because I believe that the player was a also a fan of a gambling busines.

[danherbias07]

If it ain't the Clubs then it will be the Spades.  Just kidding.

Seriously, it was always the fans who keeps the sports industry alive.
Our daily wage being saved just to watch their games thru live telecast or the expensive choice, live at the sidelines.
I guess you could say it with every sports there is. I don't know about golf though which is mostly played by the privilege.
In gambling industry, yes, huge slice of the pie comes from the fans also who put their money on the line.

[sunsilk]

They are all equals. Why? Because when you remove one of them, the other two don't mean shit.

Remove the club, only the players and the fans left. Without a club they are nothing.
Remove the players, you can't have a game without the players. You have nothing.
Remove the fans, who's going to watch your players and support your club?

I agree on this, a very balanced explanation. All of them are important and equal. And it's all going to end up that everyone should respect the importance of the clubs, players and the fans.

Very well said. Those 3 entities are vital for them to be successful in the sports industry. Without one of them, I don't think they will enjoy the same success they can get in this field. So yes, this should not be a question in the first place. Just look at the scenario if you will take out any of them, whether fans or clubs or players, there will be nothing to discuss about.

Without one of them, it would be incomplete.

It's like a combination of three of them and they won't work together if there's one lack in the group. There's no competition, everything is valuable as we look to them.

Sports is also a business model, all of them are playing their own parts to grow it and for them to continue in their passion.

[MAAManda]

Basically, these three things (players, fans and clubs) are interconnected and have their own relationship.

However, in reality we can see that there are players who dominate the club and there are also clubs that dominate the players.

For example, Messi who dominates the Barcelona and Florentino Perez (Real Madrid) who dominates the players.

They are really connected to each other and this wont really exist if one part would really be absent or doesnt exist.Even though majority been talking here about
fans to be the most powerful but i do bit agree that they do have mutual benefits to each other or something that they could rely on.
They wont really be making out some revenue if one of those factors or components doesnt exist.

Yups, you're right ...

Fans make money, clubs generate players and players generate performance.

- The club will not earn money if there are no fans and players.
- Players will not make money if there are no clubs and fans.
- Fans do not get Entertainment if there are no clubs and players.

But my basic question is, do the fans have power when we talk about weak clubs who have little advantage from the fans? call it like the clubs in the area of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.

[RealMalatesta]

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.

SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.

If you look into a government structure, same kind of inter-relationship could be spotted out.
So, there would be no surprises in my end on your conclusion of finalizing in favor of fans as a real owners.

Who are all spending their real money, they deserve to be the real owners. Clubs invest their own money but for actual business they again depending on fans and followers. So, it is a complexly connect cycle where talented people finds their fortune and fans find good entrainment and clubs make money by making the ends meet.

[Saisher]

Sporting events are profit-driven, they pay their players, they need money to maintain everything within the sports and the fans are the ones who will pay the ticket the pay per views and buy the team merchandise, these teams do not spend their funds without thinking of something in return, so the fans are the boss, if there are no fans the league will cease to function.

[hahay]

It is not only the fans who keep the club there, because at least there are other investors who make the club grow even bigger. I don't think it's just because the club's fans are growing, because how can a club develop without good management. Look at the other smaller clubs, basically the small clubs have fans too but because of the lack of investors who come and are not well managed, in the end the small club cannot grow bigger and will continue to be below.

[Fredomago]

It is not only the fans who keep the club there, because at least there are other investors who make the club grow even bigger. I don't think it's just because the club's fans are growing, because how can a club develop without good management. Look at the other smaller clubs, basically the small clubs have fans too but because of the lack of investors who come and are not well managed, in the end the small club cannot grow bigger and will continue to be below.

Supporters and investors are also factors to grow the club, just how you illustrate your example, those small club also have fans but they are not growing unlike those big clubs that have good team behind.

They are good in advertising and promoting, having investors money to do things and attract more people to support the club, it's really a good advantage to anyone.

Good management and good support from the  fans, perfectly combined to succeed.

[Cling18]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

[Oceat]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

That's right, these three coexist because they have a certain role each of them to make the game and money's running. Imagine if one of these three is not working, do you think there's still a game that's worth for the hard work of each of them? I mean, if you want to go on a national level you have to give your best shot to be on the list of the best players.

Fans and clubs can support you all the way to the end if you're giving your best to them since huge money evolves only when a strong team/player is worth it with their talent.

[samcrypto]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone.

[dunfida]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone.

Or lets say about those mutual benefits to each other which i do agree.One wouldnt exist if the the other one isnt really here or cant really be seen.
We cant just make out conclusion that fans are the only one needed as if they arent able to get some benefit or entertainment that they could get out of those teams
and leagues that had set out specific games for fans interest and entertainment times.So there's no really need for some comparison among these things

[pilosopotasyo]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

If there's a poll here the fans will be the winner of the poll, we are all fans here we are the one to pay the ticket, to support the team to watch them and pay per view, we are the one spending money for our favorite team and if a team did not give us what we want, we shift our allegiance to other team, what matters is the fan base, they can make or break a sports league, players and clubs should give what the fans wants.

[TimeTeller]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

They have to compliment each other to satisfy the needs of the other, so these three are really important. Its hard to argue about who’s more powerful because some sports are dealing well even if there’s a limited fans watching them, but in most popular sports the fans are really present and the players are going all out to achieve the goal of the club. They have to work for the benefits of everyone.

Or lets say about those mutual benefits to each other which i do agree.One wouldnt exist if the the other one isnt really here or cant really be seen.
We cant just make out conclusion that fans are the only one needed as if they arent able to get some benefit or entertainment that they could get out of those teams
and leagues that had set out specific games for fans interest and entertainment times.So there's no really need for some comparison among these things

In short, these 3 groups are integral part of the ecosystem to make the sports alive and successful.
Without one of them, they can't achieve the success they want in this field.
People should not really make a poll on this as I don't think there is a need to do so.
Let us accept that all these 3 are vital to form a harmonious relationship in this industry.

[Obito]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

That's my take on this too, I find it unnecessary and pretty scummy that we are to choose which one is important when in the end, all of them have their own roles to fill as @Cling18 has said, we need to stop with this kind of dividing people. Players are the ones that make the game interesting, the club is the representative and the fans are the pillar, as simple as that

[madnessteat]

In short, these 3 groups are integral part of the ecosystem to make the sports alive and successful.
Without one of them, they can't achieve the success they want in this field.
People should not really make a poll on this as I don't think there is a need to do so.
Let us accept that all these 3 are vital to form a harmonious relationship in this industry.

That's right. If even one component of this ecosystem is removed, the system ceases to function.

By the way, I would also add to this list the advertisers and sponsors who raise huge funds for the sporting world as well as the media, thanks to whose work we can follow sporting events from almost anywhere in the world. Sport brings people together irrespective of their political beliefs, place of residence or nationality.

[iTradeChips]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

I think that the statement given by many that fans are the ones that basically gives the sport its energy, is really true. I mean without the fans, the club will cease to exist for there would be no one who basically cares about the team and that their share of the action would be irrelevant. Also, sales through merchandise would plummet as fans will cease buying the merchandise and thus will not make any money for the team. Fans are the reason why sports continue to be viewed.

[Lordhermes]

These three couldn't work well without the presence of one because each of them plays an important role for the game to continue. The players rely on fans and investors but without the presence of skilled players, no one could make money through sports. They work and function for each other.

That's my take on this too, I find it unnecessary and pretty scummy that we are to choose which one is important when in the end, all of them have their own roles to fill as @Cling18 has said, we need to stop with this kind of dividing people. Players are the ones that make the game interesting, the club is the representative and the fans are the pillar, as simple as that

A clear example should be taken from the time of corona virus pandemic period, watching football match without the fans in the stadium was boring and repulsive, no body finds it interesting to go over television and watch football match again as before, I will be researching on the number of viewers before and after pandemic, let examine the statistics and find out whether the fans has more great impact than the club and players.

[Silberman]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what.

[Swopon]

A clear example should be taken from the time of corona virus pandemic period, watching football match without the fans in the stadium was boring and repulsive, no body finds it interesting to go over television and watch football match again as before, I will be researching on the number of viewers before and after pandemic, let examine the statistics and find out whether the fans has more great impact than the club and players.

Agreed. In my local area, we had done some practice match with high security due to this pandemic. Its our local club and we do often play to highlight our club. Before this pandemic, there are many peoples who are enjoyed our practice match as well as young players too, we are missing them and so do they. We don't feel like we are playing to create recreation for others without audiences. The same thing can be for the big players who often play at the field for his supporters, club as well as their country. That's why I agreed with your last word.

[uneng]

The fans are the lifeblood of these sports, and without fans, there will be no revenue generated by the organization and the clubs to pay their players. Then again, we have a long history of just accepting things as they turn out and still consume entertainment even though we highly disagree on the changes at first. The recent changes, most especially in football nowadays, would just be accepted by people as time goes on once games are already in play. They can protest and expressed discontent all they like, but sooner or later they will still watch these games in order to support the teams and the players they once supported on another league.

While it is obvious that if it was not for the fans nothing like that would exist at all at the same time we cannot say the fans are the most powerful as their power is fragmented in millions of people, if there is a change in the sport and 10% of the fans do not like it enough to stop watching the sport and stop the support for their favourite team many teams will just gladly accept the rest of the 90% of the fans which could disagree with the decision but that will still watch no matter what.

That is a good reason to explain why fans have no power on the industry. They don't decide anything, they just cheer and some maintain the club financially.

It's similar to what happens in politics: who is the most powerful, the government or the people?

Many will say the people is the most powerful, because they choose the government, they are the lifeblood of the country and so on... But actually the government doesn't act accordingly to what the populations demands. Instead, the government has their own agenda, ignoring citizens' wishes without even complain if there will be complainments or not. And if they act this way without worries it's because they are the most powerful.

In sports it's the same thing. Fans = population and governments = clubs.

[KTChampions]

This is a unified system and it is very naive to oppose one part of the system to another. Each part of the system that you have listed has its own interests and the current state of affairs reflects the balance of these interests. It is wrong to view the process of balancing these interests as a confrontation. If there are any contradictions, they are resolved through economic processes and a new balance comes that suits everyone.

[lablab03]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen . As the matter of fact Its like what is happening right now in some real games around the globe. Such sports because of the covid they decided to use a recorded cheers and screen with faces of some fans like video call. Lmao. Which is just to make the game more interesting and intense... So fans is the most powerful.  If its not then why most in some sports in television has faces of fans and cheers?

[Coin_trader]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

[Stedsm]

Fans and supporters are depressed and may commit suicide? What logic did you bring here OP?  
I believe that all are directly correlated to each other and none of them can live without each other. Clubs need real sportsmen (players) for their games in order to let the entertainment going on while they make profits, players need fans to cheer them up so that those players will play in a great manner while fans need both clubs (in order to let them do giveaways for the fans and keep them happy while fans also spend enough to watch the games and their favorite players live making huge profits for these clubs) and players (whom the fans cheer in order to increase their inner strength and will power to win the match while players do their best to entertain fans at any cost).

[just_Alice]

Obviously, all of them are important, but I agree with you, that fans have the most influence.

But for that influence impact to be achieved, it's a big task and works for players and clubs.

There should actually no debate on who's more powerful of the three. A large fan base is also because of the good work of clubs and players.

Yes, without the clubs and good game there'd be no fans, but in the end, who is it that really sets the mode? If the fans refused to go on a game for some reason - the clubs and players would lose the money. On the contrary, if the players and/or clubs refuse to participate or change some things significantly - what will the fans lose? Entertainment. But fans have got plenty of other things, other games, other entertainment, while for the players the game is, basically, everything. Thus, it's in their best interest to act as the fans want in order to hold the audience and earn money.

[ReiMomo]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

If you’re going to observe it well, sports has been doing well when it comes to business purposes. Branding has been widely accepted by the fans.

Three of the groups mentioned are important and the community won’t work well missing at least of those. Players can't be found and can't give a commitment to sports if money isn’t there. Fans must be there in order to earn money so players can get monetize. Clubs have to be there to support financing, organizing, management, and promotion so they will be open to fans. But the most valuable ones are the players. They're the main roles of the community. If they aren’t there, sports will not be a thing.

[lxiaoh]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

[iTradeChips]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

players needs to perform with their best because the outcome of the game is important so that people will keep coming back to see more . did you see that best players often get massive audience compare to those games with less skillful players but if there are multiple plays in one event , people wont care on the outcome of other players but they will start to care once thier favorite players are already playing .

Well, you can imagine the things you can create for the fans aside from a good play. You got tv, print media, online sales, merchandise, and many other things that the clubs and management will do so that fans will stay loyal and be able to profit from them. It is devilish to think of that really. We all know fans are what makes clubs and the sport itself active and alive, but at the same time the thought of these fans blindly paying huge sums of money for stuff related to the club? That is insane.

[iv4n]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

I am not sure how this goes in other countries, but in my country fans (there are some strong groups) are sitting on the board of directors, some of them are managers of players... What I wish to say some groups are earning big money, they are not just fans!
So who is more powerful depends on the country we are talking about I guess! In some countries, fans are big groups, with many illegal activities in their daily tasks, with clear military structure, from foot soldiers to generals! These groups can be crazy, and nobody messes around with them... I would say they are the strongest! Even police don't touch them!

[mediaBuzz]

Fans are the main reason why Clubs are getting profits.

Absolutely right.. Even you invest alot of money on the game, if without any fans its boring and there's no motivation that will happen .

This is just an additional impact of fans in every sport but the main reason why fans is important to them was the fans buying tickets and merchants of a certain in every game regardless of what will be the outcome of the game. The fans is sustaining funds to the club by helping them on there purchase. So even the game is online without actual people, The club are being incemtivize thru an online pass.

players needs to perform with their best because the outcome of the game is important so that people will keep coming back to see more . did you see that best players often get massive audience compare to those games with less skillful players but if there are multiple plays in one event , people wont care on the outcome of other players but they will start to care once thier favorite players are already playing .

Well, you can imagine the things you can create for the fans aside from a good play. You got tv, print media, online sales, merchandise, and many other things that the clubs and management will do so that fans will stay loyal and be able to profit from them.

Revenue that comes from fans is statistically the biggest source of income among all. Then goes merchandise and then advertisements. That fan-based revenue is just huuuge, because people spend their money in sports not the way they buy groceries or cloth like "I need this - I bought this". They emotionally get involved and buy stuff like crazy.

[xSkylarx]

Each of them plays a different role so it is not easy to say who is the most powerful.

The Players decide the outcome of the game depending on the skill they have. I'm not sure how players give profit to clubs but I think it's from sponsorships and their performance in tournaments.

The Clubs provide the salaries to the players. Without them, they can't just build a strong team they want without agreeing with the player that they want to recruit.

The Fans are the ones who make the players and the team popular. If they have more fans then they have higher engagement in different social media platforms attracting more sports enthusiast to become a fan.

[YuginKadoya]

I should say Fans but that point taken, but if we think out of the box I think money is the one that is powerful because without it this would not truly be happening non of this will cycle around if there is no money coming in and coming out, but well as you think about it Fans are boosting the Clubs to make such events and again money is needed to play it around, money is then got from a certain fan that wants to watch and wants to bet on the players, well I just want to add that up, and with the pandemic and right now that we are in a digital world or era, cryptocurrency is really taken in the picture.

[Mauser]

Each of them plays a different role so it is not easy to say who is the most powerful.

The Players decide the outcome of the game depending on the skill they have. I'm not sure how players give profit to clubs but I think it's from sponsorships and their performance in tournaments.

The Clubs provide the salaries to the players. Without them, they can't just build a strong team they want without agreeing with the player that they want to recruit.

The Fans are the ones who make the players and the team popular. If they have more fans then they have higher engagement in different social media platforms attracting more sports enthusiast to become a fan.

I don't think that the Players have any power at all. If you don't perform as a player you will just be kicked off the team. It is your job to perform and they are paid millions each year. So if the trainers or fans notice that the player is not giving 100% each game, there will be a public outcry. There might be a few super stars who are able to fight back against the trainers and fans but overall the average player is just an employee. There is a lot of trading of players happening, so the pressure is definitely from the Fans and Trainers on the Players. And there is also tons of video analysis being down - so the trainers know exactly who is not giving 100%.

[michellee]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

That is the basic thing that every club owner should know and listen to because without fans, their club is nothing and they can not get popularity if they do not have support from the fans. The part from the fans can give them a big thing in the sports industry because if they can become popular among the other club, that means more money will come to them. Their club will be bigger than the other club and if they can manage that, the club owner will get benefits from that.

[KTChampions]

I should say Fans but that point taken, but if we think out of the box I think money is the one that is powerful because without it this would not truly be happening non of this will cycle around if there is no money coming in and coming out, but well as you think about it Fans are boosting the Clubs to make such events and again money is needed to play it around, money is then got from a certain fan that wants to watch and wants to bet on the players, well I just want to add that up, and with the pandemic and right now that we are in a digital world or era, cryptocurrency is really taken in the picture.

Fans = money. Money = fans. If you have a lot of fans you will easily make money, if you have a lot of money you will easily "buy" good content and you will have a lot of fans. Therefore, it is rather illogical to talk about which is stronger or more primary, this single system.

[YuginKadoya]

I should say Fans but that point taken, but if we think out of the box I think money is the one that is powerful because without it this would not truly be happening non of this will cycle around if there is no money coming in and coming out, but well as you think about it Fans are boosting the Clubs to make such events and again money is needed to play it around, money is then got from a certain fan that wants to watch and wants to bet on the players, well I just want to add that up, and with the pandemic and right now that we are in a digital world or era, cryptocurrency is really taken in the picture.

Fans = money. Money = fans. If you have a lot of fans you will easily make money, if you have a lot of money you will easily "buy" good content and you will have a lot of fans. Therefore, it is rather illogical to talk about which is stronger or more primary, this single system.

Well, I think it all concludes with money certainly money can sure make the world go round, and if we are not careful with it money is the root of all evil after all, but as have you said if there are no people that will work and have the brain or idea to do it then all will not be possible, but right now the topic is power players would waste their talents if there is no power of money involve to get proper training regime, that includes a lifestyle that is healthy, Fans can not afford to watch and make bets if they don't have money, Clubs still needs money to run this entire business, and certainly fans is = to money but not all fans would bust their money for a certain player they like.

[ultrloa]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

Absolutely fans generates income to them + more fans more advertisement which create another revenue to the team or the league and if there's no fans engagement on the sports then they don't have money to pay the expenses of technical aspects also with players salary so for this the sporting event will collapsed.

[BADecker]

Who’s more powerful? The players, Fans or Clubs


Not the players.They have too much fun just playing around.

Not the fans. All they do is blow a lot of hot air. (This has changed with Covid.)

It's the clubs. Clubs beat everybody into subservience.

[joker_josue]

There is always saying: The customer is always right. So In these three options: the players, fans or clubs, i think the role of the customer is the fans. Obviously, the fans are more powerful, because they pay the money, the players and the clubs are earn the money from fans.

Absolutely fans generates income to them + more fans more advertisement which create another revenue to the team or the league and if there's no fans engagement on the sports then they don't have money to pay the expenses of technical aspects also with players salary so for this the sporting event will collapsed.

That's true, but...

More fans... more sponsors... more revenue, better players... better players, more victories... more victories, more fans...

This is a cycle, which really is all important, but unfortunately today, if you are in a situation that those who have more money to invest, will really be able to master the game better.
Of course, this will not guarantee the victories, but it will certainly guarantee that you are always at the top.

[Zilon]

WHO IS MORE POWERFUL ?
1. The Clubs
2. The Players
3. The Fans..

The fans remains the motivation to what ever happens in the entertainment industry irrespective of the sector. Without the turn up of the fans the entertainment industry would just be a bunch of joke.

The fans patronise the games and pay money for their source of entertainment. Without the fans, clubs will have less motivation to invest in the players and players are likely to suffer for that..

So in effect, fans are the real owners of clubs and players.

This remains the fact. Without fans the management of sports will not be able to fund the sporting system. Taking the covid outbreak for example if sporting hadn't gone virtual most games would have had difficulty funding them. And

It is their hard earned money that keeps the game running.

Players age and they’re always replaced but the loyalty of the fans keep the club alive.

SUPPORTERS HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS NONSENSE which will deprive poor people the opportunity to make ends meet.

Reality is that Clubs gave too much money to players and made them disrespectful to their managers.

End result, more debt and lacklustre..

Player faid away over time and are been replaced once old age sets in and most of them get transferred to other clubs giving a clearer picture of who makes and keep the sporting sectors generally

[Bigmikie]

Of course the players are powerful beacuse the fans and spectators including the clubs might  come to the stadium to watch a match but if the players decide not to show up thenho how will everybody feel disappointed and they will feel bad too because they are indispensable especially when it comes to football

[Phanditha Echevarria]

There is no comparable. A good club will attract good players, and good fans will naturally support players to grow together with the club. They are not opposed, but a team.