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April 21, 2021, 12:33:46 AM
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Hey

Long story short.

I get a transaction from friend... perfect it arrives with 1 confirmation directly.. Its like 3k..

Now he send me one more... a smaller one. This one doesnt confirm!

So I use electrum and can spend without confirmation. So I send full balance to another wallet. From that wallet I wanted to send it to Bybit. Anyway. Since the smaller one didnt get confirmed neither did the transaction.. So i Put alot of CPFP and the tried to dubbelspend so it goes back. But nothing work.. its been 4 days. I didnt use no bad fees... thats really odd!!!! Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do... I sharing Picture of the first and second wallet.. witch I both own.

https://anonfiles.com/zc25mas3u0/sceeeee_png

https://anonfiles.com/t32cm6sfub/sceee2_png

Sceens of the 2 wallets.

Now nothing is confirmed.... what can I do... chech the crazy CHFP fees and made dubbelspending on wallet #2 so they maybe go back to first one witch was confirmed.

Transaction from wallet 1 alltogheter to wallet 2:

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

Smaller transaction in wallet 1 that never got confirmed:

ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f

Wallet 2 where the balace should have ended up:

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

The 5.6 sat CPFP i payed on wallet 2..

33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071

The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  Sad
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April 21, 2021, 01:49:55 AM
Last edit: April 21, 2021, 02:04:51 AM by BitMaxz
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 #2

It seems that you made a series of unconfirmed transactions you made the network confused about bumping the fee and making multiple CPFP.

You made a mistake in making a CPFP transaction if you paid enough bump fee it won't be stuck.

In order to solve this, it should confirm the first transaction(The RBF transaction).

This one


Can you post the TXID of that transaction(The RBF one) I just can't find the 20sat/byte on the TXID you posted above? That's why ask you again to post the TXID on that transaction here I'd like to check it.



I found this from the second TXID you share above
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It seems it was from another wallet/exchange sent to your wallet and you are trying to bump the fee?

This transaction must be confirmed first but the problem the fee is too low.

Can you try to submit it on the free accelerator like this one https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator?lang=en_US

If this transaction be confirmed then all of the transaction you made should be confirmed too.

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April 21, 2021, 01:50:20 AM
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The problem is generated by this transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It's 138 inputs big and has paid only 25.1 sat/vB as you can see it drops the overall fee of your first transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

from 229.8 sat/vB to an effective rate of 66.8 sat/vB.

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Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do

Do you need so bad so soon you're willing to pay that much in fees? I mean you waited for 4 days....

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April 21, 2021, 02:22:20 AM
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It seems that you made a series of unconfirmed transactions you made the network confused about bumping the fee and making multiple CPFP.

You made a mistake in making a CPFP transaction if you paid enough bump fee it won't be stuck.

In order to solve this, it should confirm the first transaction(The RBF transaction).

This one
https://i.imgur.com/hY2soah.png

Can you post the TXID of that transaction(The RBF one) I just can't find the 20sat/byte on the TXID you posted above? That's why ask you again to post the TXID on that transaction here I'd like to check it.



I found this from the second TXID you share above
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It seems it was from another wallet/exchange sent to your wallet and you are trying to bump the fee?

This transaction must be confirmed first but the problem the fee is too low.

Can you try to submit it on the free accelerator like this one https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator?lang=en_US

If this transaction be confirmed then all of the transaction you made should be confirmed too.

This one I just sent from my other wallet since hade no money left on the wallet to bumbp the fees anymore. This was sent after all the transaction just to bump the fees. I tried them all... dont work or want like 4k for the help?

6751f88445767c0a15a932ced19976e7472288c384c777761d1c945386f1513a

First 2 transaction was from my friend. 69mbtc and 9 mbtc.. the rest has been fees I put in to bump them. Tried everything. ADn theese came after the problem accured.
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April 21, 2021, 02:28:38 AM
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The problem is generated by this transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It's 138 inputs big and has paid only 25.1 sat/vB as you can see it drops the overall fee of your first transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

from 229.8 sat/vB to an effective rate of 66.8 sat/vB.

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Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do

Do you need so bad so soon you're willing to pay that much in fees? I mean you waited for 4 days....


4 days is to long cant wait 1 more day. its such a hurry...how long can this take and what can I do about it to speed it up? What transaction do I need to bump seems like ive bumped them all and double spent all of them...:/

https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

Witch ones is that can I bump the fee do anything?


Edit: How can it be 66 sat when I payed CPFP 5600 sat
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April 21, 2021, 03:44:15 AM
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The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  Sad
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:

That's a total of 10,911 vBytes and an absolute fee of 1,450,041 satoshi, equals to a fee rate of 132.90 satoshi/vB.
That's currently at 4-6MB from tip, not a bad spot.

But if you can accelerate the parent using ViaBTC at exactly HH:00 (link in Bitmaxz's post), the total transaction fees of the children txns should be enough for a fast transaction.

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April 21, 2021, 03:57:56 AM
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The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  Sad
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:



Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.

What can I do now? What parent can I pay to or chat please? Can i bump anything do something?
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April 21, 2021, 04:02:34 AM
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Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
That's because they only accepts 100 transaction per hour. I'll also try to paste it there later but don't count on it.

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April 21, 2021, 04:05:44 AM
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Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
I'll also try it later but don't count on it.

Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
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April 21, 2021, 04:12:00 AM
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Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

Judging from the total fee, they might get confirmed before they'll get purged from mempools (about 2 weeks).

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Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

So the solution is so higher the fee of this one?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

But how does that relate to my wallet when the 0.068btc warrived and was confirmed at my first wallet?
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April 21, 2021, 04:24:26 AM
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Cant I extract the seed or do anything at all? If this one that you mention is the problem explain how and what does it have to do with me?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
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April 21, 2021, 04:28:21 AM
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It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

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If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output


So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.



Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part


it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this


Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.


Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.

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Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?

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April 21, 2021, 07:48:34 AM
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What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?

ViaBTC offers a very small space (100 tx/hour?) for freely accelerated transactions.
So if you are 5 seconds late that "buffer" is already full, filled by many others using their service.

I don't know the rules of other accelerators, they'll probably be different.

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April 21, 2021, 09:35:53 AM
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I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.

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April 21, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
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Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.
What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?
Exactly as NeuroticFish pointed out.
And it's also based from experience since I've been using the service to save on fees.
Just this week, I've successfully sent two transactions with lower than 20sat/vB fee rate.

But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

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That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!
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I'm guessing only a few of those belong to OP, some are from his friend and others.
But still, two or three from the list isn't cheap.

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Last edit: April 21, 2021, 03:04:00 PM by idontknowwhattodo
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22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169
If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output
https://i.imgur.com/QQnFk15.png

So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.




Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part
https://i.imgur.com/LueIgbS.png

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png

Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.
https://i.imgur.com/h6DNcmJ.png

Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.

I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.
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It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png
I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.

I can still spend it... its in my wallet but its unconfirmed. I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet.... The btc is in the wsllet when settings is on "spend unconfirmed trans" and that was days ago.... nothing has happened...

https://anonfiles.com/x6nbs6s4ub/spend_png
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